AEE: Make Your English the Chef's Kiss

Summary

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Podcast Summary: All Ears English Podcast

Episode: "Make Your English the Chef's Kiss"

Date: November 22, 2025
Hosts: Lindsay McMahon & Michelle Kaplan

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Main Theme

This episode focuses on teaching fun and natural American English idioms, expressions, and phrases used to describe when something is done perfectly or exceptionally well. Lindsay and Michelle break down both listener-submitted and their own favorite expressions, demonstrate when and how to use them, and highlight important cultural insights on giving compliments in the U.S. They're all about "connection, not perfection"—helping learners build genuine relationships through lively, authentic English.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Listener Question & Importance of Compliments

• The episode is inspired by a thoughtful question from listener Rihane Puhande about expressions meaning "exactly right" or "done perfectly," with a request to compare American and British usage.
• Michelle stresses that these kinds of expressions are "a huge connection skill" (04:02), crucial both for complimenting others and giving oneself positive reinforcement.

2. Breaking Down Specific Phrases

a) Exactly Right

• Primarily used to affirm an idea or answer, not usually a creative product or tangible outcome.
• Lindsay: "I'm just picturing hitting that passing shot last night down the line, like saying to myself, exactly right. Now it doesn't work. Doesn't work." (06:33)

b) Just Right

• More natural for products and results (like roasting veggies), but still less exuberant than other options.

c) Done Perfectly / It's Perfect

• Suitable but more formal; most people simplify to, "It's perfect."
• Michelle: "The cookies were done perfectly. Absolutely delicious." (08:01)

d) Nailed It

• Very colloquial, used for nailing a task or creative effort. Works for both sincere and sarcastic situations.
• Lindsay: "My personal favorite is nailed it." (08:28)
• Michelle: "And it's also a common one that you say sarcastically... like, nailed it. And it's, like, terrible compared to the actual picture." (08:56)
• Fun banter about using "nailed it" after a bowling gutter ball or a disastrous attempt at Pictionary.

e) Spot On

• More common in British English but understood and used in the U.S., especially to affirm someone's point or to praise the quality of something (like food or fashion).
• Can be used: "You are spot on. We do need to buy extra brownie mix." (10:23)

f) Knock It Out of the Park

• Classic American baseball idiom. Used for impressive success, especially with big projects requiring effort (like hosting Thanksgiving).
• Michelle: "You totally knocked it out of the park." (15:42)
• Discussion about hosting Thanksgiving as a major life event.

g) Chef's Kiss

• Recently trendy phrase and gesture expressing something perfectly achieved, especially in creative or soulful endeavors (food, outfits, design).
• Michelle: "Chef's kiss. Like, what is what... Like, what does that even—where do you think that comes from?" (16:38)
• Lindsay: "Often it's accompanied with the gesture, but it doesn't have to be." (17:29)
• Used after a pause for emphasis, e.g., "Your outfit... chef's kiss." (18:04)

h) A Work of Art

• Used to describe something that's been created with skill or is visually/creatively impressive.
• Examples: essays, outfits, party arrangements, etc.
• "It's about producing something." (19:50)

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3. Practical Usage & Role Play (20:18)

Lindsay and Michelle demonstrate these expressions in a role-play after a dance recital, naturally blending several into a lively, supportive conversation:

• "You knocked it out of the park."
• "You did it perfectly. And the color is spot on, exactly right for your face."
• "Your makeup is a work of art."
• "Her work is always chef's kiss." (20:42–21:51)

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4. Cultural & Contextual Notes

• Complimenting achievements and creations is a vital part of making connections in American English-speaking settings.
• Certain phrases are best for ideas ("exactly right"), while others fit physical/creative results ("chef’s kiss", "work of art").
• Some expressions are formal ("done perfectly"), others super casual ("nailed it").
• Sarcasm can play a role, especially with "nailed it."

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• Michelle (on self-complimenting): "It's a huge connection skill... give ourselves a little pick me up, a little pat on the back, right?" (04:02)
• Lindsay (on using these phrases): "Part of what feels good about being alive... if you can acknowledge that in someone else or in yourself, it just feels good." (04:24)
• Michelle (on 'chef’s kiss'): "At first, it was a little bit awkward for me to say it, but I'm getting more comfortable... I'm working on it every day." (17:05)
• Lindsay (on connection): "If we have the right words, the bond becomes stronger. If we don't, it just becomes kind of a neutral moment and we miss the moment in a sense." (22:32)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Listener Question & Introduction of Topic: 03:04–05:16
• Discussion of 'Exactly Right' & Usage: 06:07–07:38
• Nailed It / Spot On / Sarcasm: 08:28–10:23
• Knock It Out of the Park & Thanksgiving Stories: 12:26–16:06
• Chef’s Kiss: Meaning, Usage & Gesture: 16:06–19:01
• A Work of Art & Artistic Compliments: 19:19–20:09
• Role Play Demonstration: 20:18–21:51
• Takeaway & Recap: 22:04–22:58

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Takeaways

• Having an expressive vocabulary for praise in English is a top connection skill and helps build stronger relationships.
• Use a variety of phrases to fit context: ideas, creative outcomes, big projects, or everyday wins.
• Don’t default to “great”—explore idioms like "nailed it," "knocked it out of the park," and "chef’s kiss" to sound more native and natural.
• Acknowledge successes in yourself and others to foster connection, not just perfection.

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Episode Tone

Friendly, energetic, and accessible—with plenty of humor and genuine encouragement. Lindsay and Michelle model conversational American English and emphasize self-confidence, cultural savvy, and the importance of celebrating achievements with native-like expressions.

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For ESL learners and teachers, this episode is not just a vocabulary lesson but a deep dive into how language can foster connection and positivity in daily life. “Chef’s kiss!”

Transcript

[Michelle Kaplan]

This is an All Ears English podcast. Make your English the chef's kiss.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Welcome to the All Ears English podcast, downloaded more than 200 million times. Are you feeling stuck with your English? We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection, with your American hosts, Lindsey McMahon, the English adventurer, and Michelle Kaplan, the New York radio girl, coming to you from Colorado and New York City, usa. And to get your transcripts delivered by email every week, go to allearsenglish.com subscribe One of the best moments in life is when you do something well. You cook an amazing meal, you create a work of art. What can you say in these moments about your own work or about someone else's to build connection? Don't miss the moment. Use these phrases in English.

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[Lindsey McMahon]

Hey there, Michelle. How you feeling today?

[Michelle Kaplan]

I'm feeling good. How are you, Lindsay? I am excited. It's a Saturday. Welcome to a sassy Saturday episode. Thanks for being here with us.

[Lindsey McMahon]

I love it. Yeah, we're coming. We're getting close to Thanksgiving now, so, you know, we love that we have our listeners on board for a wonderful Saturday episode. But, Michelle, I do have a question for you.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yes, what is the question?

[Lindsey McMahon]

So when was the last time you think you did something really well? Just like really in your wheelhouse, in your zone?

[Michelle Kaplan]

You know, Lindsay, one thing that I feel very late lately. I'm feeling really good about my relationship with vegetables and how I cook them.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Oh, that's great.

[Michelle Kaplan]

So I recently made a meal with like a lot of really good roasted veggies and season and then a good salad. It was just. It was chef's kiss. Really?

[Lindsey McMahon]

Chef's kiss kiss. Beautiful. I love that, Michelle. That feels great, right? I actually have an example. Last night I was at tennis drill. I was doing tennis drills where we play games. It's like games, drills, that kind of thing. And I hit this awesome passing shot down the line, passing the vol. The person at the net. And it was chef's kiss. It was amazing. It was like, yes, that, you know, with tennis, it's the sweet spot. You know, it's that feeling of the sweet spot. It hits the racket exactly where it should and it feels amazing. You know that feeling. And the same with your veggies, right? It's just like veggies and tennis.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. So today we are going to answer a listener question about how to say something was done really well or perfectly. This question comes to us from YouTube from Rahan. Lindsay. Would you like to read the question for us? Yes.

[Lindsey McMahon]

So, Lindsay and Michelle, hello. I'm Rihane Puhande. I really enjoy your podcast. It helps a lot with learning natural English and daily life and Ielts preparation. That's great to know. Love that. And I have a request. Could you please make an episode about idioms that mean exactly right or done perfectly, such as nail it spot on, knock it out of the park, and much more, and explain where we should use them? I think many learners would find it useful to compare American and British idioms in this area. Thank you so much for your amazing work. Great question. Very articulate question, too, isn't it?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Very articulate. I love it. Yeah, we're gonna really go through these words and talk about some others, but this is. Yeah, this is a huge connection skill, so I'm glad we're covering it because it's so important to be able to commend someone for doing a good job or even say it about ourselves. Give ourselves a little pick me up, a little pat on the back. Right.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yeah. This is kind of some of the color of life when we've done something well. And yeah, it's okay to say we've done it well or to especially compliment someone, but it's kind of a feeling that's really cool. And it's a universal feeling like we've all done something well at some point in life. And so if you can acknowledge that in someone else or in yourself, it just feels good. It's like part of what feels good about being alive, you know?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, definitely. So we're going to get into these expressions, but before we do, we want to remind you to hit the follow button wherever you are. Listening to the All Ears English podcast. Don't miss anything from us, guys.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Hit follow. Yeah, we're publishing some extra episodes in November and December, and you will miss them if you're not following. So make sure you've got us in your queue wherever you're listening. If you happen to be consuming this on YouTube, make sure you hit subscribe over there. Okay, perfect.

[Michelle Kaplan]

All right, well, we are going to start with Rehana's expressions listed and also teach some fun ones ourselves. So, again, you know our list. This listener asked about British English. I mean, we're really focused here on American English. So, you know, I know some British English, but I, I can't really speak as much to that. So we're gonna really talk about this more in the context of American English. What do you think, Lindsay?

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yeah, I agree. We like, we like to teach you what we know well, so we don't teach you wrong things. There are lots of great podcasts out there that are. That focus on British English. We've had some of them on the show as guests. I will say I think the phrase spot on is more British than American, the one that she mentioned in her question. But, yeah, check that out on a British podcast. We'll focus on the American English ones here. And let's get into it. Michelle.

[Michelle Kaplan]

All right, so we're going to go through the ones that this listener asked about. So the first thing is exactly right. So I, I would use this more for an idea or if someone says something I agree with. I'm not sure. I'm not sure I would use it to describe someone's work or an outcome as being perfect. Right. That's not wrong. But it may sound a little bit awkward.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

What do you think?

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yeah. Yeah. Right. So, for example, I'm just picturing hitting that passing shot last night down the line, like saying to myself, exactly right. Now it doesn't work. Doesn't work.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right, right.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Or for your veggies coming out of the oven. You wouldn't really say exactly right. That doesn't.

[Michelle Kaplan]

I might just. I might say just right.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Just right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right, right. But the not. I wouldn't say these are exactly right. Right. That's more for some sort of point, an idea, an answer. So the singular answer on a test or something. So, for example, you are exactly right. I totally agree.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Which is also, by the way, really connect. Like it's connection affirming. When you do agree with someone in a conversation, that feels really good, too. That's a connection moment. And that's valid. Right? You know, exactly right. Totally right. She's exact. Or referring to someone's point of view. She's exactly right. We should consider indirect flights in order to save money. But it's not the same as in that moment of, you know, the chef's kiss. Oh, my gosh. I've created this amazing thing. It's perfect. Right?

[Michelle Kaplan]

It's nice. You're not kind of experiencing it in real time. That's more. Just more.

[Lindsey McMahon]

More.

[Michelle Kaplan]

You've. You're thinking it through. It's not.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Oh, this is. Yeah, it's more conceptual. More cerebral, maybe. What else, Michelle?

[Michelle Kaplan]

So done perfectly. So that one I feel is a little bit more formal. I would probably just say perfect, or it's perfect. But you could say you could use it like this. Really? The cookies were done perfectly. Absolutely delicious.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Right? So you could say the cookies were done perfectly or the cookies were perfect. If you just want to simplify.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right.

[Lindsey McMahon]

It's perfect. You executed my vision just how I want it. Nice.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Or wow, perfect. I love the furniture you ordered.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Nice. I like these. Can I add a bonus here that.

[Michelle Kaplan]

I had a bonus.

[Lindsey McMahon]

My personal favorite is nailed it. Nailed it.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Lindsey McMahon]

I could see you saying that as your veggies come out of the oven. Right? Or like Dan saying, oh, you're right. Right?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're right. This listener did ask about nailed nail in. And I think I nail it.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yeah, It's a good one. Nailed it.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, yeah.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Nailed it. Yeah. Or like hitting my passing shot or doing anything great in the moment. We can say that to refer to what we just did, or we could say that to someone else to compliment them.

[Michelle Kaplan]

And it's also a common one that you say sarcastically. Have you.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Oh, yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Where people post pictures of, like, things they've tried to make online, like diy, and it's like, nailed it. And it's, like, terrible compared to the actual picture.

[Lindsey McMahon]

We love sarcasm here at Dollars English. This is how I feel anytime I try to draw anything. This is why I avoid Pictionary. The plague. I will walk out of the room, someone says, let's play Pictionary. I try to draw a horse that looks more like a cow or. I don't know, it's just bad.

[Michelle Kaplan]

No, that's how I am with. Well, with drawing, but also with bowling. Like, I just. Right into the gutter and I might say, nailed it.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Like, you need the bumpers, Michelle. You need the bumpers.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, it's a good way to make fun of yourself when you say nailed it. I love it.

[Lindsey McMahon]

And we are going to talk a little bit about Spoton. I mean, we. You can say it in American English. I've. I feel like I've heard British people say this more. I don't know. Do you agree? You studied in London, Michelle, what do you think?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, wow. That was a while ago, but yeah, that's. I think you could say it. I Mean, I don't. I. I didn't think of it as. As more British, but you may. You might be right. But. Yeah, I'm not sure. So. But spot on. I would say it's. It's exactly right. It's. It's also casual. So I. I think more of someone's answer, like expressing themselves. So, for example, what you're saying is something spoton. I never thought of it that way.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Or you are spoton. We do need to buy extra brownie mix. Right. But I think you could also say it for coming back to our success scenarios, which I'd love to talk about your veggies. You know, you could also say, oh, these are spot on. Right. These are spoton. So that one is dynamic. So I like it. Hiring is not just about filling a position in your company. It's about finding someone who will actually drive revenue or improve your business. If you're in charge of hiring at your company, stop struggling to get your job seen on other sites. Give your job the best chance to be seen with Indeed sponsored jobs. It makes a big difference. According to Indeed data, Sponsored jobs posted directly on indeed are 90% more likely to report a higher than non sponsored jobs because you reach a bigger port. Pool of quality candidates. If I needed to hire a new blog writer to join our team here at Allers English, I'd be super specific. I would look for someone with two years of experience and WordPress expertise. Indeed can deliver on these specifications. Spend more time interviewing candidates who check all your boxes. Less stress, less time, more results. Now with Indeed Sponsored Jobs and listeners of this show will get a 75 sponsored job credit to help get your job the premium status it deserves@ Indeed.com AEE just go to Indeed.com a right now and support our show by saying you heard about Indeed on this podcast. I n d e e d.com sl a e Terms and conditions apply. Hiring. Do it the right way with Indeed. All right. I love this next one because. Well, we love a good baseball idiom, don't we?

[Michelle Kaplan]

We do. We do. So this is. Oh, and we have the World Series coming up here.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Who's in the World Series this year?

[Michelle Kaplan]

I. The Blue Jays. And I don't know.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Okay, interesting. Yeah, it's always a big deal.

[Michelle Kaplan]

All the Blue Jays are in it. But yeah, you could say to knock it out of the park. Right. So that's like a home run. Right. You could also say, oh, it's a home run. But basically this means you did a really good job. Yeah.

[Lindsey McMahon]

And I think I almost. Correct me if you disagree, Michelle, but I feel like this is usually for bigger, like, projects where it takes a lot of work. Like, maybe you're hosting a. A wedding anniversary party for someone. Like, it's kind of like a big deal, a big thing that. Yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. I wouldn't say, oh, my veggies came out and I knocked it out of the park. It seems a little bit too.

[Lindsey McMahon]

I mean, you could. But. Yeah. I feel like this points to, like, you. You took on this big project, and you did it very well.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right, Right. Well, for example, I mean, we have Thanksgiving coming up, and we are hosting this.

[Lindsey McMahon]

You are? Oh, is it your first time hosting Thanksgiving?

[Michelle Kaplan]

No, we did it once. Okay. Once before, and.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Oh, my gosh.

[Michelle Kaplan]

But now we're in the house, so we have. We have. Yeah, we have the room for it, but I don't like to. I don't even like turkey, so.

[Lindsey McMahon]

No. No one does.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. It's just. You have to. Yeah. It's kind of silly. So I. I don't know. I. It's funny because normally when I go to other people's houses, I don't think about it, but now that I'm going to be the one supplying the food, I'm like, oh, do I really have to do this?

[Lindsey McMahon]

So that's a huge. That's a huge step in life. I. I feel like being the one that hosts Thanksgiving because you're probably the one in charge of the turkey, like, the main. You know, the main dish. And I don't know, Thanksgiving is just such a huge deal. I remember waking up as a kid at, like, 7am My mom's already got the turkey in the. In the oven, and, like, things are rolling, and there's a schedule for when everything's going in and coming out. It's like a huge thing. No pressure. No pressure. Right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

And it's. If. If I had it my way, I think I would just do the whole meal as sides, Just different sides, because that's my favorite part about Thanksgiving. Sides and pies.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Perfectly.

[Michelle Kaplan]

That's what I would do, honestly.

[Lindsey McMahon]

I think most people feel that way, but no one's gonna say that to you. Come to your house. They can't say that. But most people, I think, just want the size in the pies.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Well, the thing is that I have these, like, where I live now, for some reason, there's a whole bunch of turkeys, like, walking around. Lindsay, I'll send you pictures. And so I see how they look up close, and I can't eat turkey anymore. Without thinking of these turkeys in my backyard.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yes.

[Michelle Kaplan]

I'm like, I don't know.

[Lindsey McMahon]

It's so true. I used to see those in Cambridge when I lived in Boston. They would, like, have street crossings, Right. So they're. Especially around the fall, they would be crossing the street and, like, have you.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Seen them, like, run across the street? Have you ever seen them, like, that's hilarious.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Hanging out, taking their time, and then they just, like, has to stop in the middle of rush hour and let the turkeys pass. It's so funny. And everyone thinks about Thanksgiving when they.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah, yeah. So I can't even eat it. Anyway. Anyway. But. So. But the point is, if I do a good job on Thanksgiving, somebody might say to me. Because that's a bigger deal. You might say, you totally knocked it out of the park.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yes. That's a good example.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Let's hope they say that. And they don't say you struck out.

[Lindsey McMahon]

I believe in you, Michelle.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Thank you, Lindsay.

[Lindsey McMahon]

That's a huge rite of passage. Big deal. Good on you for taking it on.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Lindsey McMahon]

But. So it's a good example because that's a project, right. It's a big deal. Pro. You have to time all the. All the food and everything. So that applies to, like, a slightly bigger thing, right? Knocking it out of the park. Okay.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yes. All right, guys, we're gonna teach two more. We've already been touching on this one, which is chef's kiss.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yes.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. So, yeah, this is very trendy. Do you ever hear people say this?

[Lindsey McMahon]

It's trendy? Sure. I've heard it recently. You know, especially when you're doing something that's really in your wheelhouse. Right. Something that you do uniquely well, and you've just done the thing. You've just produced the thing. You might say that about yourself, or someone might say it about you.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right.

[Lindsey McMahon]

But you. You've done this thing that you do really well, and you've done it again, and here it is. Here's the product.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right. So chef's kiss. Like, what is what. Like, what does that even. Where do you think that comes from?

[Lindsey McMahon]

I actually don't. I don't know where it comes from. I wish we. We had that information here, but do you know, Michelle?

[Michelle Kaplan]

I. I don't. I don't know for sure, but in my mind, it comes from, like, the motion that people make. Like.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yes.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Like, when you. Yeah.

[Lindsey McMahon]

You have to be watching, because we're.

[Michelle Kaplan]

On YouTube today, if you want to. Like, so. But somehow. So I think people did that especially maybe Chefs or probably.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yeah.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yes. But somehow it evolved into saying it right. And not just making the motion. And at first, it was a little bit awkward for me because I was. I don't know, I just felt a little funny saying it. But I'm getting more comfortable, but people getting more confident.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Okay.

[Michelle Kaplan]

I'm working on it. Working on it every day. No, but if you say so. People are actually saying chef's Kiss now, right?

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yes, yes. Yeah, they are, absolutely. And often it come. It's accompanied with the gesture, but it doesn't have to be. Okay, Right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Or you might. I think there's an emoji for that.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Oh, is there?

[Michelle Kaplan]

I think so. I think so.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Oh, I'm not up on all the emojis, but I bet. I don't know.

[Michelle Kaplan]

I have to check it. I have to check it. But. So, yeah, sometimes you say it, sometimes you write it in a text. You use an emoji. Sometimes you just do the motion. So. But you might hear it like this. Oh, my gosh. The. The last episode of the season was Chef's Kiss.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yes. Or your outfit. Chef's Kiss. Right.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Or you have to try this soup. Trust me. It's Chef's Kiss.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yeah. And it's usually for. I feel like this is more limited to artsy things, like, not literally art, but, you know, cooking, fashion, like something painting, design. It is kind of wide. What we can use it for is kind of, like, artistic things in a way.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah.

[Lindsey McMahon]

It wouldn't be like, you gave me great advice that I should go to the airport early. Just kiss. No.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, that's so funny. No, not like that. Like something that's kind of been created. I would say creation.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yeah. Creations.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. Yeah. So. And a lot of times we use this after some sort of pause. Right. It's almost like you're thinking of the word to describe it. And then you use this for extra emphasis because it's very emphatic, and you don't really use it for everything. So again, you would say, like, your outfit. Chef's Kiss. Right. It's. It's kind of this, like, pause for this expression.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Sure.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Giving it a little bit of a platform. A stage pausing gives something a platform because people are waiting to hear what you're gonna say.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right. All right, well, I have time for one more, and then we're gonna do a role play and head off the mic, because we're having too much fun over here.

[Lindsey McMahon]

We're having a lot of fun today.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Okay. Another. A work of art.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yes.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Lindsay, you hear people describing Things as.

[Lindsey McMahon]

A work of art. Yeah, for sure. Something appealing or amazing in some ways. So, for example, oh, my gosh, this essay is a work of art. You write so beautifully.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Or your outfit is a work of art. Can you take me shopping? So it doesn't actually have to be art, but, Lindsay, I think also it goes along kind of with the chef's kiss. Yeah, it doesn't. I wouldn't say that advice you gave me about the airport is a work.

[Lindsey McMahon]

No, that would be weird. It's not cerebral. It's not about talking. It's about producing something. Like. Yeah, you show up to a wedding and someone has, as an amazing table arrangement set up. It's so beautiful. All the. The napkins and the chairs. It's a work of art, Right? Art.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. So that's another good one. But, yeah, all of these are really good. They're all, like, kind of unique in their own way. Should we do a role play?

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yeah, let's do a role play. So here I was just in a dance show, and you are my friend, and you came to see it.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Okay, here we go. Lindsay, get dancing.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Okay.

[Michelle Kaplan]

You are incredible, Lindsay, seriously. And you're solo. You knocked it out of the park.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Thank you so much. Hey, look at your new haircut. I love it.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Thanks. I did it myself.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Wow. You did it perfectly. And the color is spot on exactly right for your face.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, thank you. Thank you. Your makeup is a work of art.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Thanks. My friend backstage did it. Her work is always chef's kiss. Okay.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, yeah.

[Lindsey McMahon]

So good stuff here, Michelle. We used a lot of the expressions. What do we say first?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. So you. I said you were incredible. Seriously. And you're solo. You knocked it out of the park, so that's a. For a big thing. You had your own special dance moment.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Totally. And again, that's kind of a project. That's a big deal, right? You rehearsed for it, so it makes sense. Knocked it out of the park. And then you said. I said, wow. You did your hair perfectly, and the color is spot on exactly right for your face. So it's perfect.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Okay. And then I said, thank you. Thank you. Your makeup is a work of art.

[Lindsey McMahon]

And then I said, her. My friend backstage did my makeup, and I said, her work is always chef's kiss. Right. We take that little pause there, which I guess, like I said, it makes people listen to us and wait to hear what we're gonna say.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. Yeah. Very interesting. All right, guys, if you haven't yet, head on over to episode 2511. That was. Got a boatload of work. How to share in English.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Nice. What's the takeaway today, Michelle?

[Michelle Kaplan]

Oh, my gosh. I can't think of like this is a top five connection moment I think is just describing, you know, something as being perfect or really well done in different ways. So instead of just always saying, oh, that was really great. Right now we have different context, different ways we can kind of compliment people or compliment ourselves. And don't forget about. Nailed it. We talked about that one as well. Yeah. Huge connection moment.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yeah. I think the connection moments that we find are the ones where we, we. It's like being alive is a joy, you know, it's. We've done something great. We want to acknowledge that in ourselves or in someone else. This is a really cool way to build bonds, build friendship, build connection. If we have the right words for it. Right. If we have the right words, the bond becomes stronger. If we don't, it just becomes kind of a neutral moment and we, we miss the moment in a sense.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Right? Yeah.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Yes.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Yeah. Really well said. All right, guys, thanks so much and thanks to our listener for that question. Really great question. And everyone have a great day.

[Lindsey McMahon]

Have a good day. See you, Michelle.

[Michelle Kaplan]

Bye bye.

[Lindsey McMahon]

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