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Michelle Kaplan
This is an All Ears English podcast, one passionate way to share your likes and dislikes in English.
Lindsay McMahon
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Do you do roller coasters? What about picnics?
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Lindsay McMahon
Hello there, Michelle. How's your day starting out today?
Michelle Kaplan
Good. Good. How are you, Lindsay?
Lindsay McMahon
I'm doing good. I've been thinking about pizza. I might want pizza tonight. So, Michelle, do you like pineapple on your pizza? Do you do pineapple on your pizza?
Michelle Kaplan
Oh, I do pineapple on my pizza. I love pineapple on my pizza. That's my favorite topping. I like pineapple and mushrooms. And then.
Lindsay McMahon
Wow, strange combination.
Michelle Kaplan
Is it? Maybe.
Lindsay McMahon
I don't know. It seems weird. I feel like most people do pineapple and ham, but I. But I don't fit you into any box, Michelle, of being typical. So I like that you're exactly creative.
Michelle Kaplan
How about you? Do you do pineapple on your pizza?
Lindsay McMahon
Occasionally I'll do. I'll do pineapple on pizza. The thing I don't do, Michelle, is chicken on pizza. And I know that's kind of a hot take. A lot of people love chicken on pizza. I just don't like it. I think it's weird.
Michelle Kaplan
I think it's weird.
Lindsay McMahon
It's like chicken or pizza, not chicken on pizza.
Michelle Kaplan
I like. I always think it's funny, those salad.
Lindsay McMahon
Slices, the salad slices.
Michelle Kaplan
Have you ever seen it where that's like a whole salad on top of a pizza?
Lindsay McMahon
Oh, no, I've never seen that.
Michelle Kaplan
I mean, not a giant salad, but it's like let you know. And I always think that's interesting. I mean, it's Kind of good. But it's also, it's. We're eating pizza. Like just admit it.
Lindsay McMahon
It reminds me of when I was in middle school. A lot of the kids, they got hot lunch would get a salad and fries. That was their meal.
Michelle Kaplan
Oh.
Lindsay McMahon
Like. Okay. I guess you're balancing out your nutrition. I don't know.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So. But some people don't do pineapple on pizza though, right? I mean it's, I think that that's one of those very polarizing food things. There's always these polarizing, like olives, pineapple and pizza. Oh. Oh. Lindsay, I have to tell you something.
Lindsay McMahon
You started eating olives, you developed.
Michelle Kaplan
No, but. Right.
Lindsay McMahon
You're.
Michelle Kaplan
If you have vanilla ice cream or chocolate ice cream, you go chocolate, right?
Lindsay McMahon
A hundred percent. I'm so annoyed when there's only one chocolate flavor. Which happened last night. Anyways, what happened?
Michelle Kaplan
I was in a car with my friends on Saturday night and somehow this came up and, and everybody but me said that vanilla ice cream is better than chocolate.
Lindsay McMahon
And I thought of you and I thought I need you because not get this. I, I, it's incomprehensible. For me it was 5 to 1 5. And I just don't understand because vanilla is so bland.
Michelle Kaplan
It's such a bland. Because they said Dan says chocolate ice cream doesn't really taste like chocolate. They should just call it something else. What?
Lindsay McMahon
I mean, I, I know there's a lot of preservatives on ice cream these days, if that's what he's talking about.
Michelle Kaplan
But he doesn't care about preserv. Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
This drove me nuts. So I walked down for ice cream. My partner and I took like a two mile walk last night, went to get ice cream. Guess what? There were eight vanilla based flavors. And guess how many chocolate flavors? One. And it was just chocolate. I was so, I was so mad. I was like gritting my teeth. I guess I'll have the chocolate.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah, right. Yeah. No, luckily my son agrees with me, so at least I have get him.
Lindsay McMahon
On the right track.
Michelle Kaplan
But like I, it just, it made me, I, I felt enraged. Yeah. And I felt like I needed you on my side because I knew that.
Lindsay McMahon
You, I, well, that's what I was, I was saying last night to my partner, I want to start as a retirement plan. One option is start a chocolate only ice cream shop with all variations of chocolate, chocolate, peanut butter chocolate, browning chocolate, snickers chocolate. Like everything you could imagine for chocolate lovers. I mean, it would be insane.
Michelle Kaplan
I love that. See, I Would be there. I would be there. My son, he gets ice cream at camp and he. And he's like, but it's vanilla. And he does. You know, he doesn't even like vanilla. I don't really like it either.
Lindsay McMahon
Anyway. Yeah.
Michelle Kaplan
So I feel better after we had this talk.
Lindsay McMahon
I wish I'd been there in the car. I would have stuck up for you. Oh, yeah, you would have been team chocolate. I mean, a lot of people don't do chocolate and.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
You know, don't do pineapple pizza. It's very weird. It's weird. So this is what we're getting into today, right, Michelle? What are we talking about today?
Michelle Kaplan
All right. Well, I hope we didn't isolate too many of our listeners. Guys, we still love you. If you don't like chocolate, it's okay. We're just judging you just a little, and it's okay. No. So, yeah, we're talking about this construction that comes up naturally, so, like, very frequently. And we've mentioned we should do an episode on it, and we haven't yet. So here we go. The construction is I don't do blank eggs.
Lindsay McMahon
And so incredibly natural, native based on connections. Because a lot of connecting, conversation, connection moments come from sharing what we do and don't do, meaning what we like and what we don't like.
Michelle Kaplan
Right.
Lindsay McMahon
We just had a really nice little connection moment. Yes, There. This is just a model and example of what our listeners could do with this.
Michelle Kaplan
Yes, yes, exactly. So, yeah, it's like the pineapple on pizza examples. I mean, like, have or experience. Right? Yeah. So we're going to talk about this more in just a second, but, guys, we want to remind you to hit follow on the All Ears English podcast wherever you are listening to us so that you don't miss anything.
Lindsay McMahon
It is. Everything we do here on this show is based on human connection. We bring everything, every episode back to connection. Connection, not perfection. So if that's your style too, hit follow and come along with us five days a week, guys. Good stuff.
Michelle Kaplan
All right. Perfect.
Lindsay McMahon
Excellent.
Michelle Kaplan
All right. So, yeah, instead of saying, I don't like pineapple on pizza, what does it mean if you say, I don't do pineapple? Yeah, pizza. Like, does that sound any different to you?
Lindsay McMahon
So it essentially is saying, I don't like it, but it's. It's a little more casual. It's a little more conversational. It's more interesting when you say it that way. Yeah, it's like saying you don't experience it, you don't eat it, because you don't like it.
Michelle Kaplan
You.
Lindsay McMahon
You refuse it. In a sense, you're refusing.
Michelle Kaplan
Right, right, right.
Lindsay McMahon
It's.
Michelle Kaplan
I think it's almost more taking a stance. Yeah, I don't do that. Right. Not only do I don't like it, but I don't do it. To me, it sounds a little more. It sounds casual, but at the same time emphatic. Yeah, right. It's like I've made this rule for myself. Yes.
Lindsay McMahon
And a good example. I think you're gonna like this example. Did you ever see Mrs. Doubtfire?
Michelle Kaplan
Of course.
Lindsay McMahon
Okay. Do you remember this scene where she's interviewing nannies and she brings in this nanny and she's like, I don't do babies.
Michelle Kaplan
I don't do diaper.
Lindsay McMahon
I don't do baby food. I don't do laundry. And she's like, well, what do you do? You know?
Michelle Kaplan
Yes, yes, yes, exactly. I do remember that I saw that movie pretty recently, actually, like in the winter.
Lindsay McMahon
So I'd recomm. Invite our listeners to go check out that movie. It's, by the way, a fantastic movie.
Michelle Kaplan
Classic.
Lindsay McMahon
Check out that scene. So what are some more examples here?
Michelle Kaplan
All right, so, yeah, so because I don't do picnics. Right. So you might say, oh, I don't do picnics. I don't like. You know, because I find it gets too buggy. It's too much to carry everything. Yeah. I mean, this is not necessarily true for me. I'm just saying.
Lindsay McMahon
Right, right. Some people don't like sitting on the ground in parks, which I don't get. Because when I go to a park, the first thing I want to do is sit on the grass. I want to be on the grass. But people. Some people don't do grass sitting. They just sit on benches in parks.
Michelle Kaplan
I don't do grass. Fine, if that's you.
Lindsay McMahon
You know, I mean, we all. We. This is the key. This is the connection skill, expressing our own personality and what we are willing to do and like to do. I don't do sports. Right. Some people are just not athletic. What else, Michelle?
Michelle Kaplan
And sometimes, usually these are for kind of short expressions, but you can extend it. So, for example, you could say they don't do spontaneity when it comes to vacations. Right. So maybe you have friends. Friends. And they're really nervous about what to do on their vacation. They're planning every single thing out. Oh, they don't do spontaneous. Right.
Lindsay McMahon
That's why I think when you choose, like a couple. Friend. If you're a couple, you choose another Couple to travel with. You have to do a test weekend somewhere. Yeah. Maybe with. If you're going to go international, do it within the US Just to see how it goes, test it out. It's hard to find that match. I think a couple that's compatible travel wise.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
Or a lot of people don't do white wine. I think my, I think maybe my mother in law is really a big red wine fan. She doesn't do white wine unless she's like in Greece or something where it's really famous and really good. Right.
Michelle Kaplan
I don't really do white wine either. I'll. I will have it. I don't know. It's fine. I mean, if somebody, if that's all they have and I want a glass of wine, I would have it. But I don't typically do white wine. I would never, I never would just pick up a white wine from the store. Got it, Got it.
Lindsay McMahon
And what else, Michelle? Last example. I don't do house parties.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah. So maybe you don't go to house parties. You don't host them.
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
So again, how does it sound different? Just to make sure this is really clear for our listeners.
Michelle Kaplan
Right. So again, yeah, I think it shows a little more personality. It's a bit more definite. It almost like I said earlier, it tends to be like a rule. Yeah, yeah. A rule for someone. And Lindsay, didn't you, I think when this came up once you mentioned the Devil Wears Prada. Right. W. I don't. I remember you, you mentioning that. It made you think of Meryl Streep. I don't know.
Lindsay McMahon
Probably because she may have had one of those scenes too where she's like, I don't do this, I don't do that.
Michelle Kaplan
I can't.
Lindsay McMahon
I can't think of that scene right now.
Michelle Kaplan
I can't either. I want, I have to watch.
Lindsay McMahon
I think there's a new Devil Wears product coming out or something like an updated version. I feel like I saw that somewhere. Really? Yeah. I'll have to double check on that and report back to our audience. But it could be fake news. I want to make sure I'm not giving wrong information. But I feel like I saw a headline somewhere. I hope that's true. What a fantastic movie.
Michelle Kaplan
That would be great. So, Lindsay, do you say this? Do you do do. Okay, that's. I'm sorry though.
Lindsay McMahon
Do you do the phrase do. Do you do the phrase I do sometimes, Michelle. It's kind of fun because what this is about is Building an identity. And, you know, sometimes it's fun to show our identity based on what we're willing and want to do and like, and what we won't do. Because it draws lines.
Michelle Kaplan
Right. Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
Do you think it could sound rude?
Michelle Kaplan
I think it depends on how you're using it, if you're being super. I think it also depends on the tone of voice. Right. You can say like, I don't, you know. Yeah. I don't do. I don't know.
Lindsay McMahon
I can't think, like, if you show up, like I told you, I don't know if I went to New York last weekend for my friend's 50th and he did a whole, you know, all inclusive dinner, and if I had been sitting at the table and I crossed my arms when they brought out something like, I don't know, fish, and I don't do fish.
Michelle Kaplan
Right.
Lindsay McMahon
Obviously that's really rude because.
Michelle Kaplan
Right.
Lindsay McMahon
You know, he's paid for it and.
Michelle Kaplan
Right.
Lindsay McMahon
You know, so obviously we want to be careful here, but mostly it's just about having fun, showing who you are.
Michelle Kaplan
Right.
Lindsay McMahon
Likes and dislikes make up our identity in a lot of ways.
Michelle Kaplan
Right. And it can really bring about that connection. I mean, certainly with the chocolate ice cream, just connecting over your preferences. Yeah. Then, you know, I took that with me. I mean, I thought of you Saturday night with the chocolate. I was like, I wanted someone to back me up here. You know, these kinds of things really connect you. Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
A hundred percent. 100%. We'll take a quick break and we'll be right back.
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Lindsay McMahon
All right, Michelle, There are other things we could say, too, which may not give the exact same vibe, the identity vibe, but there are things we can say, like, I'm not into sports. I'm not into something. I'm not into sports. I'm not into movies.
Michelle Kaplan
Or. Or more formal. I'm not interested in. And this is. Right. I'm not interested in reading for pleasure. Right.
Lindsay McMahon
And this is definitely more formal, for sure.
Michelle Kaplan
Right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, Lindsay, I thought it would be fun, before we do a role play, to just really go through this list quickly and say what we do and don't do.
Lindsay McMahon
Let's do it.
Michelle Kaplan
Okay.
Lindsay McMahon
Okay.
Michelle Kaplan
So let's talk about some of our habits and rules. Okay, Here we go, Lindsay. Loud music in the car. Do or don't do.
Lindsay McMahon
I do. I do less than I did when I was a teenager, but I do. I will do it if I'm in the mood.
Michelle Kaplan
Yes.
Lindsay McMahon
Karaoke.
Michelle Kaplan
Same. I do karaoke. I do.
Lindsay McMahon
I'll do it.
Michelle Kaplan
Okay.
Lindsay McMahon
I do karaoke.
Michelle Kaplan
Do you have a go to song?
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah. Dancing queen.
Michelle Kaplan
Okay. Mine is you ought to know by Alanis Morset.
Lindsay McMahon
I feel like I've said that's a good one for that.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah. Yeah. I haven't done karaoke in a while, though. Far. Okay. Breakfast for dinner.
Lindsay McMahon
100. I do breakfast for dinner. That is the best thing. You're taking the best meal of the day and letting yourself eat it twice in a day. I love it.
Michelle Kaplan
I love it. I love breakfast for dinner. It's also so much easier to cook. So.
Lindsay McMahon
Yes.
Michelle Kaplan
It's just nice, hot food on a hot day.
Lindsay McMahon
I don't do it. I don't get that people.
Michelle Kaplan
I think we're the same person. I think we're the same.
Lindsay McMahon
People say, like, in. In really hot climates in the world, they do eat, like, soups and hot meals. And people say it cools you down. I don't get it. I don't do hot food in a hot day.
Michelle Kaplan
Like, sometimes Dan will be like, oh, let's go for Indian food. And I'm like, it's 95 degrees. I can't. My stomach, it's also heavy. You know, I can't handle it. My stomach is.
Lindsay McMahon
No.
Michelle Kaplan
And an Indian food is my favorite food. So certain. Certain foods are for hot and certain fruits are not.
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah.
Michelle Kaplan
What about hot coffee on a hot day?
Lindsay McMahon
Hot coffee in the middle of a hot day. I don't do it. I'll do it in the morning before it seems Hot. Yeah.
Michelle Kaplan
Yep. Yep.
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Lindsay McMahon
I don't do iced coffee in the morning.
Michelle Kaplan
Like, I won't. I don't either.
Lindsay McMahon
I like to start my day with hot coffee.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
And then I'll do iced coffee in the afternoon on a hot day. Yeah. Yeah.
Michelle Kaplan
Okay. Same people. Everything is the same. Okay, let's do a role play.
Lindsay McMahon
Okay, here we go. So here I'm telling you about my vacation.
Michelle Kaplan
All right. Okay.
Lindsay McMahon
It was amazing. We went to an amusement park one day and went on five roller coasters.
Michelle Kaplan
Oh, that sounds awesome. I don't do roller coasters, though. I'm terrified.
Lindsay McMahon
Oh, I love them. It was so hot, though, and I needed a coffee, but they only had hot coffee. And I don't do hot coffee on a hot day.
Michelle Kaplan
No, no.
Lindsay McMahon
And I'm not into spending a lot of money either.
Michelle Kaplan
I get. I get that. I'm not interested in the origins of where my coffee comes from. I just want caffeine.
Lindsay McMahon
Same. Maybe that's where we diverge. Sometimes I'll go to those. More yuppie coffee shops. I will go to those places. Okay, got it.
Michelle Kaplan
I do. I do. But it depends.
Lindsay McMahon
Nice. All right, here we go. So first you said, michelle, that sounds awesome. Okay. I don't do roller coasters, though. I'm terrified. Is that true about you? You won't get on them at all?
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah, like, you refuse? I'll get on a kitty one. What about you?
Lindsay McMahon
Well, I'll get on them, but then I'll be super neurotic and terrified that my thing isn't going to clip in. So I'll check it a thousand times. I'll ask the guy to check it. Will you make sure I'm clipped in?
Michelle Kaplan
Wait, really?
Lindsay McMahon
That's neurotic.
Michelle Kaplan
I will do that.
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah.
Michelle Kaplan
All right.
Lindsay McMahon
What else?
Michelle Kaplan
What else? Okay, so then you said, I don't do hot coffee on a hot day.
Lindsay McMahon
Right. And it's important to note here there's some pronunciation that we need to know about with this, when we're talking about identity. I don't do. You know, they only had hot coffee, and I don't do hot coffee on a hot day. I'm punching the do here.
Michelle Kaplan
I don't do hot. Right. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, it would. It wouldn't have the same effect if you were just saying, I don't do.
Lindsay McMahon
I don't do coffee on a hot day.
Michelle Kaplan
I don't do hot dog. Yeah. And you kind of want to punch it.
Lindsay McMahon
The way I'm punching it, though, feels a little complainy. So I would just be a little careful about it. Careful of that.
Michelle Kaplan
I don't.
Lindsay McMahon
Do you know what I mean? I don't do hot coffee on a hot day. Feels a little complaining. So it depends on who I'm talking to.
Michelle Kaplan
Right, right, right, exactly. So. And then you. I. Oh, yeah, you said, I'm not into spending a lot of money on it either. Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
And then you said, I get that. I'm not interested in the origins of where my coffee comes from. And the way you put that we said early in the episode, it's very formal. It doesn't sound so formal here. It just sounds more like you're making a statement.
Michelle Kaplan
Right, true. Actually. Yeah. I. I just realized that it's not really quite the same. Yeah, this is. It's kind of a different meeting, actually.
Lindsay McMahon
Yeah, but it works. It works there. It works there.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah.
Lindsay McMahon
And then a good episode, guys, to go to now would be 2461, leftovers, culture, and Class. That was a really interesting one where we took a deep dive into culture, wealth, class. What it means when you take Leftovers home in different cultures. There's so much there. Michelle, what's the takeaway for today? This was a super fun episode to record.
Michelle Kaplan
Yeah, we're having a great time. The takeaway is, is that everybody better eat chocolate ice cream. No, the takeaway is, this is just such a really fun way to share who you are and find things in common with other people. These little things like roller coasters and hot food on a hot day and karaoke. These are just huge ways to connect with people. So you don't want to say this all the time repetitively. Right. You don't want to overdo it, but it is really good for showing who you are in an expressive and fun way.
Lindsay McMahon
That's a really good point, Michelle. You don't want to overdo it here because there's only so many things you can feel. So save it for the things you feel strongly about. Right. And there's only so many things we could feel that strongly about.
Michelle Kaplan
Right.
Lindsay McMahon
Otherwise, it just waters down what you're saying. So save it for the things I feel very strongly about, the chocolate ice cream thing. And so use it for that, or use it for a few other things and then use different. Different verbs and ways of saying it otherwise. All right. Really good connection topic today. Excellent.
Michelle Kaplan
All right. Love it. This was a lot of fun. Lindsay and I'll talk to you next time. All right, guys.
Lindsay McMahon
Take care, Michelle. Have a good day. Bye.
Michelle Kaplan
Bye. You too. Bye.
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Hosts: Lindsay McMahon & Michelle Kaplan
Date: August 30, 2025
Episode Theme: Teaching ESL learners a dynamic and native-sounding way (“I don’t do ___”) to express likes and dislikes, fostering connection in conversations.
Lindsay and Michelle dive into how expressing your preferences in English isn’t just about saying “I like” or “I don’t like.” They teach listeners how to use the casual and emphatic phrase “I don’t do ___” to share passions, pet peeves, and personality—all while building genuine human connections. The episode is peppered with relatable examples (pizza toppings, ice cream flavors!), a cultural discussion of American habits, and practical language tips for standing out naturally in everyday English.
For English learners:
Practice using “I don’t do ___” when talking about your own habits and preferences to sound more natural and engaging—remember, connection, not perfection!