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Summer Reading Challenge Check-In: Beach Read Recommendations
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This week, All Of It producer Jordan Lauf discusses some beach reads that could fit in the five AOI Summer Reading Challenge categories.
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Alison Stewart
This is all of it on wnyc. I'm Alison Stewart. Because Monday I wanted to give you a preview of some of the conversations we have coming up on the show later this week. Tomorrow we'll talk with journalist Paul Tough. His reporting challenges a lot of the current conventions on how we treat kids with adhd. Wednesday, we'll learn about a new documentary on the impact of New York City's skateboard culture and how it spawned the cultural phenomenon supreme. And on Thursday, we'll talk to Pulitzer Prize winning feature writer Jennifer Sr. About her article, why Can't American Sleep? Insomnia Has Become a Public Health Emergency. And then on Friday, we'll talk about the best films of the 21st century. And we want to know what you think should be on that list. That's all in the future, but now let's get this hour started with books. This week on all of it is dedicated to beach reads. Those books you can't put down, the ones you take with you to the beach or park for a relax, relaxing read or to take your imagination to someplace you haven't been. Each day this week, we'll speak to a different author about their great new summer novel. The stories will take us to Paris, the Underworld, Eelman, Highfalutin, nyc. But first, since we're talking about summer reading, it's time to check in on our Summer Reading challenge. For those of you who haven't heard, we are challenging you to read five books in five different categories by Labor Day. If you complete the challenge, you get a prize. To sign up, head to wnyc.org summereading this is wnyc.org summerreading or you can also find the link on our Instagram bio. Joining me now to discuss some of the great beach reads that fit within our Summer Reading challenge is all of It. And get lit producer Jordan Loft. Welcome back, Jordan.
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Jordan Loft
Thanks, Alison. Great to be here.
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Alison Stewart
Before we dive into beach reads, let's remind people of the categories for Summer Reading challenge.
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Jordan Loft
Yes. So we've got five different categories. You have to read one book in each. These are the five a classic you've been meaning to get to, a book about or set in New York City, a memoir or biography A recent debut novel and a book published in 2025. So last time we gave you seven categories. You had to pick four. This time we're giving you five categories. You got to hit all five to get the prize this time.
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Alison Stewart
Okay, listeners, we want to hear from you. Are you participating in the summer reading challenge? We what book are you reading first? What's a great beat read? You might a beach read you might wanna recommend. We are taking your summer reading recommendations. Our Phone number is 2124-3396-9221-2433. WNYC. Okay, let's talk about beach reads. We had a discussion about this. First of all, what do you think makes a good beach read?
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Jordan Loft
Yeah, we talked about this and it's interesting. I think people have different ideas about what makes a beach read. To me, it is just something that is you occupied keep you turning pages while you're sitting on the beach or sitting at the park. It has to be something that's going to capture your attention and you're going to look up and say, oh, three hours have gone by and I've been sitting here. To me, that doesn't mean it has to be like not serious, quote unquote or frothy. Although it can be frothy and fun and all of those things. But as long as you're sitting there, you're turning the pages, you're lost in a good book. I think that counts as a beach read.
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Alison Stewart
You just came back from vacation. What did you read while you're away?
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Jordan Loft
I did. And so I guess these two books maybe are good indicators of my definition of a beach read. So the first one, it was King of Ashes by SA Cosby. I've talked about it a little bit on the show already. He came on the show. So great. It's a thriller, a family thriller about a son who's trying to extricate his family from the clutches of this gang. Maybe he gets in a little too deep himself. That was a classic, like thriller. I'm turning pages. I can't wait to hear what happens next. The other book I read was the Postcard by Anne Burest, which was a novel translated from French. I picked it up because I was in France and I wanted to read something from the place. And that was a really moving story about. It's a novel, but it's sort of based on her research into the author's own family who died in the Holocaust. So that was definitely a more serious read. But it was framed sort of as an investigation. So it Definitely had those cliffhangers, and each chapter ended, and you sort of wanted to figure out what was going to happen next. So I was just, like, glued to my seat on the beach reading that one. That's a postcard by Anne Breast. I can't recommend it enough.
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Alison Stewart
Okay. Since we're going to focus on beach reads all week long, Jordan's going to recommend some reads that'll fit into some of the categories for summer reading challenge. Win, win. All right, let's start with fiction.
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Unnamed Caller 1
It's probably the most classic definition of a beach read. A little romance, a little fun setting, good writing.
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Alison Stewart
What book fits that bill?
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Jordan Loft
Yeah, so this is the latest novel from Taylor Jenkins Reid. It's called Atmosphere. I really think any Taylor Jenkins Reid novel could pretty much fit the bill for this. She is just an excellent writer for exactly that category. Like, it's gonna give you a plot that you can't wait to find out what happens. It's gonna give you memorable characters. It's gonna give you a little romance. But the writing is just excellent. This new one is a thrilling story about space exploration. It follows a female astronaut in think maybe a little bit. Sally Ride, inspired, who's recruited to NASA and trains within this group of male and female candidates for a new space mission. NASA's, like, really trying to recruit more female astronauts, and our character, our main character falls in love within this group. But there's also some danger with the mission and maybe it might end in disaster. So that is Atmosphere by Taylor Jenkins Reid. And that one fits in the category of book published in 2025.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Let's talk to Diane from South Orange, New Jersey. Hi, Diane. Thanks for making the time to call into all of it.
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Diane
Oh, thank you. My summer read also fit into the 2025 category, and it was one golden.
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Unnamed Caller 2
Summer by Carly Fortune.
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Diane
And I figured out where it was going. But I enjoyed the characters, I enjoyed the setting, and it was a good summer read. I did. You know, I have. I read a number of summer reads, and that one was a good one.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Love it.
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Diane
I also had a very good memoir called Memorial Days by Geraldine Brooks, which I really very much enjoyed.
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Jordan Loft
Yes, I hear that one's great. That's the latest from Geraldine Brooks, I believe is about the loss of her husband and sort of that grieving process. I've heard really good things about that book as well.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Thanks for calling, Diane. This says Rage in Harlem by Chester Himes, a propulsive, surreal, surreal crime novel set in 1959 Harlem, ultimately about New York and sneakily about the racism that the black characters are confronted with. That can go our near category.
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Jordan Loft
That sounds perfect for that.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Our phone number is 212-433-WNYC 212-433-9692. We want to hear from you. Are you participating in the summer reading challenge?
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Diane
We.
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Unnamed Caller 1
What books are you reading first? Maybe you have a great beachery that you want to recommend. 2124-3396-9221-2433, wnyc. My guest is Jordan Loft. She's our get lit and our summer book challenge. What should we call you? Producer.
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Jordan Loft
Sure, I'll take it.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Book challenge empress. Let's talk about a purely romantic novel.
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Jordan Loft
Yeah. If you're someone who's like, okay, my definition of a beach read is I want a fun romance. Emily Henry is your girl. She seems to write a new one almost every year.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Last year's was good.
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Jordan Loft
She's incredibly prolific.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Yeah.
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Jordan Loft
What was the one last year?
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Unnamed Caller 1
It was a girl who, like, went to the Hamptons and didn't have a place to live. It was like, guess my guest, that's Emma Cline.
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Jordan Loft
That's the guest by Emma Cline. But it very well could have been an Emily Henry novel. That sounds like something she would totally write. Well, this new one is called great big beautiful life, and it's about two competing journalists who are both fighting to write the memoir of a reclusive heiress. So they want to be the ones who.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Funny story.
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Jordan Loft
Yes, that was the one from last year. Yes, yes, yes. So this new one is about these competing journalists who are trying to fight for the rights to write this woman's life story. And of course, that means that they must fall in love because, you know, they're together, they're fighting, but maybe they're actually gonna fall in love. But also, what's special about this book is it's not just about the central love story. It's also about this heiress and her life story. And we learn a little bit more about that as you keep reading. So that is Great big beautiful life by Emily Henry. And that falls under the category of book published in 2025.
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Alison Stewart
What about a debut novel?
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Jordan Loft
Yeah, this is one of our categories this year. I'm really excited for Lonely crowds by St. Stephanie Wambugu. It's a debut novel about two girls who become friends at first in a New England Catholic school when they learn that they are the only scholarship students attending. So that's how they become friends. And then the story follows them throughout their life as they move to New York city in the 90s to pursue careers as artists. One of the friends becomes more successful than the other, and that competition and feelings of jealousy and envy threaten to ruin their friendship. This one's not out until July 29, so it might be one that you pick up in August if you're looking for an August read. But it gives you a whole month. You'd have plenty of time. It's not super long. And this one fits in three categories. It's the rare trifecta. It fits under debut. It fits under book published in 2025. And if it's in a book about or set in New York City. So you can pick which one you want to put it in.
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Alison Stewart
It's got to be in one of those categories. It's not a three for one.
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Jordan Loft
No, it is not a three for one. Deal. Okay, everyone, if you want to be sneaky about it, please don't do that. No, you have to pick a category.
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Alison Stewart
Let's talk to Lisa, who's calling in from Tom's River. Hi, Lisa, thanks for calling all of it. What do you want to recommend?
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Unnamed Caller 2
I'd like to recommend Butterfly Summer by Tony DePalma. It falls into the category of new release.
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Alison Stewart
Can you give us what the elevator pitch is?
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Unnamed Caller 2
Okay, so it's about a Hollywood producer who has to to do the finale of her show and it's set in Italy and she goes back and while she's dealing with her show and all the elements that go into producing the show, she has to deal with some old family business. So it starts in the present and it goes into the past and then it returns to the present. It's a lot of fun. It's very fast paced.
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Alison Stewart
Sounds like it's a good plan. Thanks so much for calling. Let's talk to Melanie from Loch Arbor, New Jersey. Hi, Melanie. Thank you so much for making time to call all of it today.
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Melanie
Hi. Thanks for this show. I just finished My Friends by Frederick Bachman and he's the man that wrote A Man Called Uwe, which was a wonderful book also. But my friends, it was wonderful. I listened to it actually, and the narrator was fabulous. But I know people have read it and everybody feels the same way. Like, oh, my gosh, that was great.
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Alison Stewart
Love it. Thank you so much. It says I'm currently reading Born a Crime by Trevor Noah. It's funny, thoughtful, and well written. I'm reading it for the challenge that would be in our memoir, biography.
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Jordan Loft
Exactly. Perfect. And I want to just say it's for that last caller, Fredrik Bachmann. I think is how you say his name. He's got a lot of good summer reading books. I think Anxious People was another one that people really liked from him. So he's a good one to check out. If you're looking for something to pick.
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Alison Stewart
Up this summer, we are going to go. The next book is by a local author.
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Unnamed Caller 1
It's called, okay, I get this, right?
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Alison Stewart
Maggie or A Man or a Woman.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Walk into a Bar by Katie Yee.
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Jordan Loft
Yes. So it's set up like the punchline of a joke. So it's like a man and a woman walk in a bar and then. So Katie is a local author. She actually works for the Brooklyn Museum in her day job. And this story begins when our protagonist finds out that her husband has been having an affair with a woman named Maggie. And in the same sort of two weeks she also gets diagnosed with breast cancer. So as a sort of humorous coping mechanism, she decides to name her tumor Maggie, the name of the woman her husband is having an affair with. And it sort of goes from there. It's a really slim, very well written debut novel about grief, about moving on with your life, about resilience and about female friendship. There's a really beautiful friendship at the center of the book, so I really recommend that one. And Katie is coming on the show on Thursday so you can hear a little bit more about it.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Let's talk to Laurie from the Upper west side. Hi Lori, thanks for calling all of it.
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Laurie
Hi, thanks for taking my call. My book is from 2018, but I just discovered this author. Her name is Faith Martin. She's written different series. The one I just read was Fatal Obsession. It was terrific. It's a 1960s. 1960s. It's from crime. It has a lot of twists and turns. I could not figure it out. I thought it was at least two stories and at the end it all comes together. But it's very exciting. She's a wonderful author and as I said, she's written different series. The last series before this was by a detective named Hillary Green. I can't recommend more both series, but this one, Fatal Obsessions, was really exciting.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Is it one of the kind of books you go to the beach and you're reading and you look up and it's a couple hours later?
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Laurie
Definitely, absolutely, definitely, definitely, definitely. It kept me up at night. It looked all of a sudden and it was midnight after reading it for two hours.
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Jordan Loft
Wow.
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Laurie
Terrific book.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Thanks for calling Laurie listeners. We'd love to hear from you. Are you participating in the Summer Reading Challenge? What books are you read reading first. What's a great beach read you want to recommend? We are taking your summer reading recommendations. Our number is 2124-3396-9221-2433. WNYC. After the break, we'll hear from one of our our older friends, Gary Steingart. Stay with us.
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Alison Stewart
You are listening to all of it on wnyc. I'm Alison Stewart. In studio with me is get lit and Summer Reading Empress Jordan Ralph.
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Jordan Loft
I'm gonna put that in my new biography, Empress.
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Alison Stewart
We are talking about the Summer Reading Challenge. Jordan has a lot of recommendations for you. We also want to hear from you. Are you participating in the summer Reading Challenge? What book are you reading first? 2124-3396-9221-2433-WNYC. Before the break, I gave a little tease to our friend Gary Steingart. He has another novel out.
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Jordan Loft
Yes, he's got a new one out for those who are like, oh, that name sounds familiar. He was one of our get lit authors a couple years ago for his last novel, our Country Friends. This new one is called Vera or Faith. So it's like Vera or Faith. It is out July 8th, which is tomorrow. So happy almost pub Day to Gary Steingart. This one is about a family that's threatening to flee fracture apart. Also, as our political situation is fracturing, there's some mirroring going on there. But our protagonist is their daughter. Her name is Vera. She's a kid who's desperate to keep her parents together. And something special about Vera also is that she is half Korean and her birth mom has been out of the picture for a long time. Her dad's remarried, so the couple she wants to keep together is her dad and her stepmom. But she also wants to sort of figure out what's going on with her birth mom. And I just think that Gary Sheingart's writing is so insightful and so funny. And there was a kid character in our country Friends that I remember just finding like so fascinating and hilarious. So I'm excited that he's dedicated this entire book to a point of view of a kid.
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Alison Stewart
Let's talk to Craig from Morganville. Hi, Craig, thanks for calling all of it.
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Craig
Hey, how you doing? This book came out a while ago and I don't know the author, but it's called the hello Girls. It's about these women operators during World War II that would put the wires into the calls. And they were responsible for a lot more stuff to the war effort than they thought. And it was, it was very fascinating read. It's called the hello Girls. Really cool book.
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Jordan Loft
Looks like it's by Elizabeth Cobbs. It's the hello Girls, America's first women soldiers. That sounds really interesting.
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Craig
It was really cool.
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Alison Stewart
Thanks for calling. Craig. Just finished actress of a certain age, Jeff Hiller, a memoir. Starting four Bobby Finger set in New York City. My other challenge will come from books brought up on all of it. This is so fun. Both of those gentlemen as guests. All right, I'm gonna say this is actually the name of the book we texted it. It says, I recommend a debut novel by Damelari Cuckoo entitled Only Big Bum Bum Matters Tomorrow.
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Jordan Loft
Only Big Bum Bum Matters Tomorrow.
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Alison Stewart
It's a debut novel. It's funny and irresistible about a Nigerian family secrets, judgmental aunties, and Brazilian butt lifts. I actually listened to the book for those of you who like listening and audibles because it was so funny, it has you in stitches and laughing.
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Jordan Loft
Well, that's going immediately on my to be read list. And I have to say, I've just looked it up as you're talking and the COVID is fabulous. Great job to this cover designer. I really love this cover.
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Alison Stewart
Oh, that is a good looking cover.
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Jordan Loft
That looks cool.
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Alison Stewart
All right, let's round things out with another debut novel.
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Jordan Loft
Yes. So this one was actually recommended to me by your friend Scooter. Scooter is a regular at our get lit with all of it events, and he stopped me at one of the recent ones and he was reading a book and he said, have you guys had this one on the show yet? I said, no. And he's, ugh, I'm gonna have to talk to Allison about that. So I don't know if he ended up talking to you, but I'm gonna plug the book now.
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Alison Stewart
Do it.
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Jordan Loft
It is called Luminous by Sylvia Park. It's sort of a futuristic story. It's set in a world in which Korea has reunified and AI robots have become increasingly lifelike. And it follows two siblings who were actually raised alongside an AI robot as their brother. But as they got older, their brother disappeared and now they're trying to figure out what happened to him. And again, he's their brother, but also a robot. So it's actually shockingly relevant to our current times where people are falling in love with AI and, you know, considering AI to be their friends. So it's really timely in that way. And that one would count for in two categories. A recent debut or published in 2025. That's Luminous by Sylvia Park.
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Alison Stewart
Scooter's the only person I know who reads more than you and more than me. The only person.
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Jordan Loft
And that's a tough task.
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Alison Stewart
Let's talk to Harold in Brooklyn. Hey, Harold, thanks for calling all of it.
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Harold
Oh, hey, long time, millionth time. I wanted to suggest a classic I read that was. It was ported to a movie, but the book is so much different than the movie. It's called the Remains of the Day. And I don't want to butcher the author's name, but it's like Kazuo Ishiguro.
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Alison Stewart
Yes, that was good.
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Harold
But it's just. It's really. The book is so much more about, like, isolation and just this. It's just so powerful and moving. And I really, really loved it. And I read a lot. It was like my favorite book of the year. And then also there's a new book that I love that came out this year called Super Bloom by Nick Carr. And it's a. It's about, like, communication technologies. And I think it really makes you rethink how you use your phone.
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Alison Stewart
Thank you so much. I think we lost you in the end there, but, Nicholas, thanks for calling in. This is interesting and I don't know if you have an answer, if you want to think about this for a little bit. Someone texted in having a problem finding a classic for the challenge.
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Jordan Loft
You know, that's interesting. I think one place that you could start to look is to see if any local universities near you. A syllabus. Sometimes English classes have like a survey course syllabus that is either required for all students or English majors. I sometimes find inspiration there just to see, like, what are college kids being required to read these days. And it gives you sort of book list outside of what maybe you're used to thinking about. Anniversaries are also always. It's a big year. It's 1925, the hundredth year. So you've got the Great Gatsby, you've got Mrs. Dalloway by Virginia Woolf. Are both celebrating big anniversaries. It was also the James Baldwin centennial last year. So that was good excuse for me to read some Baldwin. And I guess my final suggestion would be to think about anything that's being adapted. I think I might pick up east of Eden by John Steinbeck because that is being turned into a series starring Florence Pugh. And I'm really excited for that one. So I think Wuthering Heights is also getting a new adaptation by Emerald Fennell. So that could give you some inspiration to pick that up. So that would be my third place to look is what's being turned into a TV series or movie. Oh, it's also the anniversary of the Pride and Prejudice film with Keira Knightley. So if you're looking for an excuse to read Pride and Prejudice, that's another anniversary that works.
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Alison Stewart
What about a good fantasy book?
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Jordan Loft
Yeah, I really, really like V E Schwab. I really enjoyed her book the Invisible Life of Addie Larue that came out a couple years ago. She's got a new one out this year called Bury Our Bones in the Midnight Soil. And it is a vampire tale that follows three different women from three different periods of history. There's one woman in 16th century Spain, one woman in 19th century England, and one woman in 21st century Boston. Each of these women are queer and are sort of dealing with that experience in different ways. Obviously, being queer in 21st century Boston or being a gay woman in 21st century Boston is definitely different than in 16th century Spain. And each of these women ends up having an encounter with a vampire that could change the course of their lives forever. And is this vampire the same vampire? Is it a different vampire? You'll have to read and find out. I will caveat to say that this is a longer 1. It's 544 pages. So if you're not feeling brave about lugging it to the beach, if you're a Kindle reader, that could be a good one, or an audiobook reader, that counts as well. It is out now, and that one fits under the category of published in 2025.
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Unnamed Caller 1
All right, let's move on to nonfiction, especially since we have a category of biography or memoir. What's a biography or memoir that could fit in well with a beach read? As we said.
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Jordan Loft
Yeah, a beachy vibe. You might want to pick up Ina Garten's memoir. It's called Be Ready when the Luck Happens. This recommendation honestly comes from my mom, who loved this book. I think she read it in two and she really liked learning the ins and outs of how Ina Garten started her business in the Hamptons. So it's got that beachy, you know, Barefoot Contessa vibe. But it really goes into that story of launching her business and of course, her relationship with Jeffrey, her beloved husband, as everyone knows, and it's pretty short. It's a good one to lug on the beach. It is out already. And that one would fit under the category of memoir or biography.
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Unnamed Caller 1
There's another memoir that has a lot of people talking the Dry Season. What's this one about?
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Jordan Loft
Yeah, this is from Melissa Febos, who you might know from some of her other memoirs. I think she wrote a book called Body Work, and she is a former sex worker and dominatrix, I believe we've.
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Unnamed Caller 1
Had her on the show.
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Jordan Loft
Yeah, we have had her on the show before. And this one is about her decision to abstain from sex for a year after a bad breakup. She realized that she had sort of been jumping from relationship to relationship, and she wanted to take a very intentional break. And this is a memoir about what she learned about herself and about sex and about pleasure by taking some time to very intentionally abstain from. From hookups, from sex, from romance. I think it'll be a really good conversation starter. Like, if you're in a book group of some kind, this could be a fun run to talk about with your friends over a glass of wine. So two, maybe two glasses. Maybe two glasses of wine if you're feeling a little uncomfortable talking about sex. But this one fits in two categories. It could fit in memoir or biography. And it could fit in published in 2025.
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Alison Stewart
This one says Women in White by Wilkie Collins, published in 1860. A mystery.
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Jordan Loft
Oh, so that could be a classic for sure.
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Alison Stewart
Classic. All right. Any final biographies that might be a good summer read.
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Jordan Loft
Yeah. If you're a big old sports fan and you want to really immerse yourself in sports this summer, there are two new biographies for you. One is a biography of Caitlin Clark. I was a little surprised. I'm like, well, she's so young to have a biography already, but she really has changed women's basketball and women's sports. This book is called On Her Caitlin Clark and the Revolution in Women's Sports by Christine Brennan. And if you like boxing and complicated people, you might like the new biography of Mike Tyson. It is called Baddest the Making of Mike Tyson. It is by Mark Kriegel. So both of those could fit under the category of memoir or biography. And they seem really interesting to sports fans.
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Alison Stewart
All right, can you give people all the information about the summer reading challenge one more time?
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Jordan Loft
Yes. So to sign up for the summer reading challenge, you can head to wnyc.org summerreading youg can also find the link in our Instagram bio. If you follow us on Instagram, you'll find the link. To sign up, you'll find a PDF you can print out and write down all of your selections. You don't have to send any selections into us. You don't have to message us and say, okay, now I'm reading this one. I mean, you can if you want. I love to see it. But you don't have to. At the very end. We'll send you a form to fill out for the whole challenge. So that's wnyc.org and just a reminder of the five categories are a classic you've been meaning to get to, a book about or set in New York City, a memoir or biography, a recent debut novel and a book published in 2025. You've got to hit one in all five to get your prize.
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Alison Stewart
Jordan Loff, our Get lit and Summer Challenge Empress, thanks for being here.
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Jordan Loft
I love being the Empress. Thanks so much Alison.
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