The Beaches New Album Drops Tomorrow

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Beaches New Album Drops Tomorrow

Podcast: All Of It
Host: Alison Stewart (A)
Guests: The Beaches – Jordan Miller (C, vocals/bass), Kylie Miller (E, guitar), Leandra Earle (F, keys/guitar), Eliza Emma McDaniel (D, drums)
Date: August 28, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode of All Of It centers on the Canadian rock band The Beaches, whose third album, No Hard Feelings, drops August 29th. Host Alison Stewart interviews all four band members, exploring the viral success of their hit "Blame Brett," the band’s artistic evolution, their approach to songwriting and sound, issues of identity and representation in rock, and their shift from a major label to an independent one. The session is peppered with laughs, live acoustic performances, and candid insights into their journey and community.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Viral Success of "Blame Brett"

• [02:28] Exclusive live performance of "Blame Brett."
• Discussion:
  • The band recalls the TikTok post that went viral, changing the trajectory of their career.
    • Kylie Miller: "We just saw the numbers start jumping and jumping... the next day, it had like 1.1, 1.5 million...[it] completely transformed our lives." ([06:01])
    • Leandra Earle: “The vocal booth has become sort of famous within the Canadian music industry. It’s like, that’s where the Beaches had their TikTok.” ([06:25])
  • The viral moment helped expand their audience internationally, especially given the challenges faced by Canadian bands:
    • Eliza Emma McDaniel: “It really set us on a new trajectory to... come to the States more and build our fan base in Europe and just introduce a lot more people to our music.” ([06:41])
  • On why the song hit so hard:
    • Jordan Miller: “I got broken up with before a lot of the COVID breakups...I think I was going through something that was about to hit everybody.” ([07:20])
    • Kylie Miller: “Everybody has a Brett in their life...Breakups are a universal experience.” ([07:41])

2. Origins & Evolution of The Beaches' Sound

• [08:33] The Miller sisters have played together since early childhood, originally forming a band called Done With Dolls.
  • Jordan Miller: "We've never not been...Just individual solo artists. We've always, you know, performed together." ([08:47])
• Early songwriting:
  • Kylie Miller: "We learned three chords and we had a dream." ([09:16])
  • Song topics ranged from sibling relationships to petty fights (“Go Away,” “Those Lies”).
• Eliza joined as drummer after being recruited at age 12, underscoring the band’s self-taught, collaborative roots:
  • “We learned our instruments as we grew up.” ([09:54])
• Leandra came on board just as their sound shifted from “Done With Dolls” pop to alternative covers (Black Keys) and eventually to their blend of happy-sad, moody rock referencing The Strokes, Joy Division, and The Cure.
  • Jordan Miller: “We really landed on our sound with...Blame My Ex, which [includes] Blame Brett, and it’s...happy-sad.” ([10:54])

3. Navigating Gender & Identity in Rock

• Early in their career, the band rejected the “girl band” label and sought to sound “as hardcore as possible to get male fans.”
  • Jordan Miller: “Not at all [anymore]. Now I write music for, you know, people like me. Like young, queer women, you know.” ([11:50])
• Songwriting now explicitly centers on their identities, aiming to represent their diverse fanbase.
• Leandra Earle: “In Covid, I came out as a lesbian...we should start writing from other members perspectives because there’s so many more identities in this band.” ([22:27])
• Eliza Emma McDaniel: "The majority of the album [No Hard Feelings] is about queer relationships. We just want to make sure...everyone feels seen and acknowledged and part of this big Beaches family.” ([23:10])
• Jordan Miller, on representation: “It’s important to share...that’s how you make real change...that people hear their stories shared in all forms of art.” ([22:54])

4. Songwriting Approach on “No Hard Feelings”

• Kylie Miller: "[This album is] so special...it kind of shares individual experiences that we've all gone through...It was just a really collaborative experience." ([12:41])
• The vision: more collective songwriting, with influence from Sex and the City as a model of shared female conversations:
  • Jordan Miller: “I wanted it to feel like...the girls always go to this brunch spot and debrief about relationships. I wanted this record to feel like a conversation amongst all of us.” ([13:36])
• Eliza Emma McDaniel: "That's kind of what this record is. It's like letting everyone into a glimpse of our lives individually." ([13:59])

5. The Acoustic Sessions & Authenticity

• [14:39] In-studio acoustic performances include "Last Girls at the Party" and the first radio play of "Did I Say Too Much."
• On playing acoustic:
  • Jordan Miller: “When you play the songs acoustically, it’s about dynamics...be creative, make it work with what you got.” ([17:48])
  • Leandra Earle: “Probably breathier vocals.”
  • Eliza Emma McDaniel: “It’s a nice break for me to have this single egg in my hand as opposed to an entire drum kit.”
• The acoustic format highlights the vulnerability in their lyrics:
  • Eliza: “They’re sad.”
  • Jordan: “Blaine, Brett, particularly. Sounds like a funeral march for some reason, acoustically.” ([18:27])

6. Independence from Major Labels

• The band describes escaping major-label constraints in favor of creative freedom:
  • Kylie Miller: "We were assigned to major labels...since we were 15...we really wanted to see if we could do this ourselves." ([19:08])
  • Jordan Miller: “They believe in you, and you're not signed for five records...I think that's the way the industry should be moving forward.” ([19:38])
• Control over their work:
  • Jordan Miller: “We basically get to pick the songs that become singles. Usually...you don’t always have a say but now we can premiere new music on TikTok and let the fans have a bit of a say.” ([20:03])
  • Eliza Emma McDaniel: “The moment you have the freedom to kind of do what you want, that's when it hits, that's when it resonates.” ([21:38])

7. Upcoming Album, Queer Storytelling, Community

• The upcoming album No Hard Feelings is “a big party...get ready to dance while crying.” ([24:08])
• Fanbase and visibility:
  • Jordan Miller, referencing a past interview: “The people we’re making music for are girls, gays, and theys.” ([21:59])
  • Emphasis on ensuring fans see their real experiences reflected in the songs.
• Anticipation for new music, including their fresh single “Did I Say Too Much” premiered on air ([24:44]).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the impact of going viral:

  • Kylie Miller: “It eventually got up to, like 3 [million], but it just ended up, yeah, completely transforming our lives. And it’s so wild that that’s happened over like a year and a half.” ([06:14])

• On writing for themselves now:

  • Jordan Miller: “I write music for, you know, people like me. Like young, queer women, you know.” ([12:19])

• On independence:

  • Jordan Miller: “You’re not signed for like, five records. You’re signed for one record. So if you’re not happy...you’re not stuck.” ([19:38])

• On their fanbase:

  • Jordan Miller: “We write music for the girls, gays, and theys.” ([21:59])

• On the new album’s collaborative approach:

  • Kylie Miller: "No Hard Feelings is kind of more about each of us. And it basically was like having therapy with your best friends." ([12:41])
  • Jordan Miller: “I wanted this record to feel like a conversation amongst all of us.” ([13:36])

• On what to expect at their live shows:

  • Jordan Miller: “A big party for sure. Like get ready to dance. Get ready to cry. Get ready to dance while crying.” ([24:08])

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Important Timestamps

• 02:28 – Live performance: "Blame Brett"
• 05:42–08:01 – Discussing the viral blow-up & emotional resonance
• 08:33–11:29 – Band origins, evolution, and early songwriting
• 11:50–13:59 – Gender, identity, intentionality in audience & genre
• 14:39 – Live performance: "Last Girls at the Party"
• 17:48–18:58 – Acoustic arrangements and the vulnerability of stripping back their sound
• 19:02–21:38 – Move to independent label; creative freedom
• 21:59–23:45 – On representation and writing for "girls, gays and theys"
• 24:44 – First radio performance of "Did I Say Too Much"

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

This episode is warm, candid, and energetic—very much a reflection of both Alison Stewart’s personable interviewing style and The Beaches’ camaraderie, humor, and sincerity. The conversation flows naturally between laughs and deep, personal insights, underscoring themes of artistic autonomy, representation, and community for marginalized voices in rock.

Newcomers gain a strong sense of The Beaches’ journey from scrappy sibling band to globally recognized indie rock act with a clear, inclusive mission—and a taste for both late-night parties and late-night therapy sessions.

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For listeners and fans:
Expect cathartic, anthemic, and openly queer rock from The Beaches on ‘No Hard Feelings’—music made for everyone who’s ever cried at a party, found family in friends, or needed to sing (and dance) it all out.

Transcript

[A]

This is all of it on wnyc. I'm Alison Stewart. Thanks for spending part of your day with us. We're really grateful that you're here. And just one more reminder that Labor Day is the deadline for the all of It Summer Reading Challenge. If you've been reading along with us and have read a book in each of our categories, make sure you submit what you read so that we can send you a piece of WNYC swag as a token of completing the project. Head to wnyc.org summerreading for more info. We'll have all of it producer Jordan Lof on the show on Wednesday to recap the project, but here's a guessing game to keep you on your toes. We had about 1,300 people sign up to participate in the project. How many people do you think completed it? Tune in on Wednesday to find out. And again, if you completed the Summer Reading challenge, head to wnyc.org summerreading to make sure you are part of that head count. And with that, let's get back into today's show with a little bit of music. The Canadian rock band the Beaches have been playing together for more than a decade. Before their 2023 breakup anthem fell Blame Brett. That one song introduced millions of their listeners to their work. Now their third album, no Hard Feelings, is set to drop tomorrow, August 29th. The beaches formed in their hometown of Toronto. The band features bass player and lead singer Jordan Miller, her sister Kylie Miller on guitar and backup vocals, keyboard and guitar player Leandra Earle and Drummer Eliza Emma McDaniel. Their tracks cover Heartbreak, Imposter Syndrome and Partying until the Sun Comes up, all while rocking out. Earlier this summer. Before their set at Governor's Ball in June, they joined me in studio to talk about how they developed their sound, their songwriting process, and why they moved to an independent label. In honor of their album dropping tomorrow, let's kick things off with the song that changed everything for the band. Here's the Beaches live in WNYC Studio 5 performing Blame Brett.

[B]

Done being the side girl I'm done dating rock stars so now on only actors all boys and lirs I'll become a disgust is a bad girl in my body love should a natural disaster he you can be my baby baby baby you can be my baby boy lady you can be my baby baby maybe oh oh I'm sorry any vest I'm only gonna treat you bad I'm probably gonna let you down I'm probably gonna sleep around so sorry in advance before you take I wouldn't let me near your best I wouldn't let me near your die so don't blame me, blame bread, Blame my ex, Blame my ex. Blame my ex. Don't blame me, blame bread. Blame my ex, Blame my ex, Blame my ex. That's why I won't get vulnerable don't you dare get comfortable Heartbreak is impossible. Feeling too insulting, somersault I'm already paty to take accountability Right now it's about me, me and only body hey, you can be my baby, baby, baby you can be my baby boy Dear lady, you can be my baby, baby, baby. Oh, I'm sorry in advance the mom gonna treat you bad I'm probably gonna let you down I'm probably gonna sleep around so sorry in advance before you take off your pants I wouldn't let me near your beds I wouldn't let me near your d. So don't blame me, blame bread, Blame my ex. Blame my ex, Blame my ex. Don't blame me, Play my ex, Play my ex. Play my ex. I'm only in it for the sex. That's why I love a good love. Again, I believe it for this text. Play my ex. Play my ex. Play my ex. Don't blame me, blame bright. Blame my ex. Blame my ex. Blame my ex. Don't blame me, blame bread. Blame my ex. Blame my ex, Blame my ex.

[A]

That took me everything not to sing along with you.

[B]

Oh, my God.

[C]

You should join next.

[D]

We would have welcomed that.

[A]

That's the Beaches. It's amazing. When did you first realize that that song went viral? How about you, Kylie? What do you think?

[E]

I think we noticed when Leandra posted the original TikTok. And I think, like, you were away. You were in Florida or something, on vacation with your girlfriend.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And then you gave.

[E]

I think you were just, like, out all day. And then, like, I think we just saw the numbers kind of start jumping and jumping and then, like, we all went to sleep that night. The next day, it was like it had like, 1.1.5 almost.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

It eventually got up to, like 3, but it just ended up, yeah, completely transforming our lives. And it's so wild that that's, like, happened over like a year and a half.

[B]

That's crazy.

[C]

Like, that studio, like, that vocal booth has become sort of, like, famous within the Canadian music industry. It's like that's where the Beaches had their TikTok.

[A]

Now that you've had time to sort of process it, what did it mean for your career to have that moment?

[D]

It was incredible. I mean, it Kind of opened so many doors for us because obviously, being a Canadian band, it is easy to remain in Canada, and often bands do get stuck. So it really set us on a new trajectory to be able to come to new countries, you know, come to the States more and, you know, build our fan base in Europe and just introduce a lot more people to our music. So it's been amazing.

[C]

It's a really cool opportunity because, like, back in the day, before these platforms were available, you would, you know, have to tour these places before you were able to develop a fan base. And now you can sort of grow your fan bases all over. Just because we're all connected online, it's. It's sick.

[A]

Why do you think that song hit so hard?

[C]

I've thought about this so many, so much, and I think we got lucky. I mean, if. No, we didn't get lucky. I think I got broken up with before a lot of the COVID Not lucky me. So I think I was going something that was about to hit everybody. Yeah, a lot of the COVID breakups happened like, a year later.

[E]

I also think that everybody has a brat in their life. Like, breakups are such a universal kind of experience that we all share. And I don't know, there's such vulnerability in this power in the lyrics in that song. So I think it's just very relatable to a lot of young people. I mean, people of all ages. Honestly. Breakups are the worst.

[A]

So why did you post it? I'm just curious about what was going through your mind. You just like, oh, I'll throw it up.

[F]

It was.

[D]

It was at a time when we weren't being very precious about things online. We were just, you know, filming ourselves in the studio, throwing it up there. See what stuck.

[F]

I think I posted a video of you in the same booth singing Everything is Boring a couple months prior, and that got up to, like, 300,000 views. But for our own original music, like, that had never happened. So I was like, oh, that's a lot of views. Let's try another song. And it didn't even stick right away. It was a couple of versions of. Of that.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

My guests are the Beaches live in studio. They're performing songs from their forthcoming album, no Hard Feelings, which drops on August 29th. So you two are sisters? Yeah, yeah. You know that. When did you start playing together?

[C]

We started playing when six. I believe you were six and I was seven. Yeah. And we. Honestly, we haven't ever done anything not together. Like, we've never not been Just individual solo artists. We've always, you know, performed together. This whole thing started when we started playing together.

[E]

Yeah, we, we really didn't like guitar lessons. We didn't like learning theory. So we ended up just starting to write our own songs at a really young age.

[C]

And because we were lazy, we learned.

[E]

We learned three chords and we had a dream.

[D]

What can three chords in a dream?

[A]

Three chords and the truth. That's what country music's about. What are you, what were your earlier songs about?

[C]

Sisters was our earliest one. Literally.

[D]

About being sisters?

[C]

Yeah, about being with sisters. We were listening to old. We. Our old band was called Done With Dolls.

[D]

Don't look it up.

[C]

Feel free to look it up. It's a real trip. Go away, go away. That's about getting, you know, telling your sister to leave your room.

[D]

I don't want to be your friend.

[F]

I like the song. Those lies, Lies, Lies are serious.

[C]

They are.

[E]

Lies are serious.

[D]

It's really powerful style, really poetic.

[A]

Eliza, how did you join the band?

[D]

Well, so I, I knew Jordan and Kylie from a very young age. We went to public school together. So I met them in grade one, went through, up to about grade six and then in grade seven, we were walking to school together and Jordan goes, I'm in this band. We kind of need a drummer. I heard you kind of play drums. I was very self taught at the time. I was like, yeah, I'll come, I'll come jam with you guys. And that was like over 10 years ago now. And it just, it fit so well. It felt so natural. And we learned together. Like we, we learned our instruments as we grew up.

[A]

Leandra, when did you understand what the Beach's sound was going to be like?

[F]

I think I joined right after you guys decided to change your sound. I was a fan of Done With Dolls. I went to their, went to their shows.

[A]

I know more about Done With Dolls.

[F]

In a minute, but keep going, she'll tell you. And then they changed to the Beaches. I joined like a month or two after that and you guys were kind of like playing Black Keys covers and stuff. So it was going into like an alternative.

[A]

Oh, that's interesting.

[C]

Yeah, I think like we went through a lot, as a lot of young people do in a lot of bands. You sort of like try on a lot of different references. We referenced like the Pretenders in a record. I sang like Karen O in the first two eps we put out. And then it sort of evolved into like more of a stroke sound. And then when I think we really landed on our Sound with, like, our. The record that we put out a couple years ago, Blame My Ex, which Blame Brett. And it's sort of, you know, happy, sad. We reference, like, Joy Division, the Cure, like, very moody, moody sounds, I guess.

[A]

All right, I'm going to read to you from a previous interview. I'm sure you love that, Jordan, it says you wrote. When we started out being an all girl band, we really rejected that label and connotation, and we wanted to make our sound as hardcore as possible in order to get male fans. Is that still true?

[C]

No, not at all. Not at all. And, you know, I think when we started, when we began our careers, we were, you know, young women, preteens even, and there weren't any bands that looked like us or sounded like us. So I think we were just trying to, you know, get the respect of our peers, which at the time were like, all straight men. And nowadays, you know, that's not really the case anymore. And we don't really write music for them anymore. I write music for, you know, people like me. Like young, queer women, you know.

[A]

Your last album, Blame My Ex. Kylie, when you went into this album, what mindset did you go into? Because Blame My Ex has got a lot of breakup songs. Couple happy songs, but mostly breakup songs.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

What did you go into with this album?

[E]

There's definitely some breakup songs on this record, too. I think we're, like, consistently always going through breakups. I don't know. Going through one right now.

[C]

I'm sorry. That's okay.

[E]

But, yeah, I think this record is just like. It's so special to us because it kind of like shares, like, individual experiences that we've all gone through. I think Blame My Ex was really Jordan's experience with her breakup. And no Hard Feelings is kind of more about each of us. And it basically was like having therapy with your best friends. Kind of everybody, like, communicating with one another. And it was just a really collaborative experience. We had so much fun making this album.

[A]

So, Jordan, was there something new that you wanted to try on the new album?

[C]

Yeah, I will. I wanted it. I think that's. Kylie hit it on the head there. Like, I didn't want it all to be about my experiences. I really wanted it to be sort of like a debrief about all of our experiences during breakup. So I was very influenced by Sex in the City. I constantly am, and I just.

[A]

Sex in the City not end just like that.

[C]

I don't consider that canon. Hot tea, hot take. Anyway, Sorry, sjp. No, I mean, I really Wanted it to feel like, you know, in the original series, the girls always go to this brunch spot and they'll, you know, debrief about where they're all at with their relationships. And I really wanted this record to feel like a conversation amongst all of us.

[D]

Yeah, I think it's really special for the fans too, because they want to be part of that conversation. They want to hear what we're talking about when we go out for a drink, a casual hang, you know, so that's kind of what this record is. It's like letting everyone into a glimpse of our lives individually, what we're all experiencing. And that's the cool part about it.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right, we're gonna hear another song. This is called Last Girls at the Party. What do you want us to know about these girls?

[D]

Well, they're never leaving the party.

[C]

They're never leaving the party. We're the first. Well, we're not always the first to leave.

[D]

We're usually late.

[C]

The last to leave for sure. But the party doesn't start until the beaches get there for sure.

[A]

Here's the beaches.

[B]

I'm not kind of slow down I'll never look as hard as I do now Cause I don't want to miss out as I pick myself up off.

[A]

The ground.

[B]

Everyone'S gone home the lights are turning love no hard feelings we're not leaving while you're sleeping all night they even gonna be the last girls at the party Gonna be the last girls at the party Gonna be the last girls at the party Gonna be the last girls at the Plymouth Need a smoke break? Cause you miss out on the shots that you don't take and if you don't think straight Babe, it's your good day I'm open. We once gone home with lights all turning love New heart feelings we're not leaving while you're sleeping we're not leaving Gonna be the last girls at the party Gonna be the last girls at the party Gonna be the last girls at the party Gonna be the last girls at the party I don. I don't wanna go home.

[F]

We should at some point.

[D]

It's only one, right?

[B]

I don't wanna go home.

[E]

But we should.

[F]

So many hot girls here.

[C]

It's only two, right?

[B]

It's only three, right? It's only four, right? It's only five, right? It's only six, right? It's only seven, right? It's only eight, right? Gonna be the last girls at the party no heart feelings we're not le sleeping work night Leaving Gonna be the last girls at the party Gonna be the last girls at the party Gonna be the last girls at the party Gonna be the last girls at the party oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Gonna be the last girl party Gonna be the last girls at the party Gonna be the last girls at the party Gonna be the last girls at the party.

[A]

You're listening to all of it on wnyc. I'm Alison Stewart. Jordan, Kylie, Leandra, and Eliza. They make up the bleach, the. The bleaches, the beaches. They're joining me in studio. We were just juggling things and wires, but hopefully we got it settled down a little bit. You either play acoustic today, but you. You truly rock out. What's different when you hear the songs acoustically?

[C]

When you play the songs acoustically, it's about dynamics, right? So when you're. When you're playing with acoustics, you have to think, like, okay, if you're just using your voice in acoustic guitar or a shaker, you got to think, how can you add dynamics to the set? So adding claps in certain moments, songs have to have, like. They have to be quieter at some points and louder at some points. So it's just like sort of getting together and being creative and making it work with what you got.

[F]

Probably breathier vocals.

[E]

Yeah.

[F]

Usually screaming on stage.

[C]

It's nice. Yeah, it's nice not to yell. It's great.

[D]

It's a nice break for me to have this single egg in my hand as opposed to an entire drum kit.

[A]

What do you notice about your songs when you hear them acoustically?

[D]

They're sad.

[C]

It's true. Blaine, Brett, particularly. Sounds like a funeral march for some reason. Acoustically, we. We played recently. We played that song acoustic in Belgium not too long ago, and we're very big in Belgium, and they crowd surfed to that version.

[D]

There's about 10 people in the room. It was really crazy.

[F]

Literally like a funeral march.

[C]

Yeah.

[F]

And they held her above.

[E]

I started it too slow, so it was going so slow.

[C]

This girl's just crowd surf. I think you like when you. When you strip it down, like, you realize how vulnerable and sad some of the lyrics are. For sure.

[A]

Yeah. You know, it's interesting because you guys are. You left your label.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Right. You went on an independent label. First of all, why was that important to you to go on an independent label?

[E]

I mean, honestly, like, it's just great to have, like, some support from, like, someone, like, in the industry. I don't know. I think we were assigned to, like, major labels when we were, like, since we were, like, 15 years old, so we really kind of wanted to see if we could do this ourselves and, like, you know, not really have a lot of people to, like, kind of answer to. Like, we wanted to be fully in control of our project. And with an independent label, you definitely get, like, that control, which is so nice. And they've been really supportive.

[C]

So, yeah, it's not like they believe in us. Yeah, they believe in you and they believe in the project. And you're. You're not signed for, like, five records. You're signed for one record. So if you're not unhappy with, like, the relationship, then you're not stuck. It's like, I think the way the music industry should be going forward, moving forward, but that's just my opinion.

[A]

What's something you did on the new record that you did because you were on an independent label? It wouldn't have worked if you'd been on another kind of label.

[C]

Well, just like releasing, we basically get to pick the songs that we, you know, that become the singles. Usually, you know, if you're signed to a major label, you don't always have a say in which song gets selected to be, like, the radio hit or whatever with this, like, you know, we can sort of slowly premiere new music on TikTok and, you know, let the fans have a bit of a say and also what sort of gets selected to be the single.

[D]

It's just nice to have so much. Have the label have so much in what we're going to put out. It's very encouraging as an artist, we can swear. But not today.

[A]

Not today.

[C]

Not today.

[A]

You know, Bruce Maroney was here last week, and he said that he really felt like he could put out the music that he wanted to put out, not just what the industry wanted, that he could write music that was meaningful to him. Did you feel that kind of pressure?

[D]

Well, I mean, the latter, basically. Like, we, with our label, they're called awol. And what they've been so amazing for is, like, Jordan was saying, like, they didn't really put any pressure on us to put out a certain type of music or tell us what to write about. They're very just like, no, we believe in you and what you're going to accomplish in the studio, and we're gonna back you 100%. And that's just like the most encouraging thing you could have as an artist, especially from going from being signed to a major label to that. It's like kind of the best case situation for us.

[F]

And when we were fully independent, that's when we put out Blame My Ex. And that's when we discovered this sound that we wanted to put out. That's music we were listening to. Because I think we being like a rock band in Canada for a decade, we were a much more alternative rock band. And I don't think that resonated with us anymore.

[D]

Yeah, it's funny. It's like the moment you have the freedom to kind of do what you want, that's when it hits. That's when it resonates, when no one's forcing you to sound a certain way.

[A]

You know, I'm gonna read another quote from another magazine. Are you ready, Jordan? All right. It's a good one, though. It says, you told DIY magazine the people we're making music for are girls, gays, and theys.

[D]

Yes.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

Correct.

[C]

Heck, yes.

[A]

Heck, yes. Tell us, if you don't mind, tell us how your identity factors into your songwriting.

[C]

Well, I mean, I think, again, where we really started to, like, hit our stride with our songwriting is when we really just were vulnerable and shared, like, real experiences. We weren't really trying. We were just sort of, you know, trying to be ourselves and trying to. Sorry, my brain's a little dead today.

[F]

No, like, in Covid, I came out as a lesbian. Big surprise to everybody. And then it was like, okay, well, we have all this music that, I mean, written from Jordan's perspective, but she was like, we should start writing from other members perspectives because there's so many more identities in this band, which then resonates with our fan base. So it's been really helpful for all of our queer fans to hear, like, their stories shared. Yeah, yeah.

[C]

It's important to share, like, that's how you, like, make real changes, that people hear their stories shared in all forms of art. You know, that's sort of.

[A]

That's really interesting. That's really sort of big of you to think, like, everybody should be included, not just my songs.

[D]

Like Jordan was saying, like, we write music for the girls, gays, and these. And when they weren't hearing enough songs about their experience, we hear those. We hear, you know, from that, and we learned from that. And so I think it was really important to us to include some queer storytelling on this new record. So on the next one, unlike the last one, where there was. I think there were two songs about a queer relationship, in this next record, it's like the majority of the album is about that. So, yeah, we just want to make sure that Everyone feels seen and acknowledged and part of this big Beaches family.

[A]

My guests are the beaches. Jordan, Kylie, Leandra, and Eliza. You're playing governor's ball. Well, who are you excited to see? I mean, we hear you're playing Tyler, the creator. Who else?

[F]

Role model. Yeah, I want to be Sally.

[E]

Backseat lovers. And McGee.

[D]

Yeah, McGee.

[C]

Yeah, I was gonna say McGee as well.

[A]

What can people expect from your set?

[C]

A big party for sure. Like get ready to dance. Get ready to cry. Get ready to dance while crying.

[D]

And here a couple new singles.

[F]

Yeah. New song.

[C]

Yeah.

[E]

Yeah. We're playing this next song that we're gonna play on the radio. We're playing that for the first time live at Gov Ball, so. Hope it goes well.

[A]

We'll see. Well, first time you're gonna play it is here.

[F]

Hope it goes well here.

[B]

This is exciting.

[A]

Let's take a listen. This is. Did I say too much from the be?

[B]

You led us right to this place you kept me around just to wait Cause you got your reasons Are you in your secrets or was I just a change of you? Cause he could never leave you maybe break up with your boyfriend Did I jump the gun? I really thought this time I found someone why did I speak too soon? So real to me, girl Is it real for you? Did I say too much? Gave you my stomach to choose? I get it, you were confused. Yeah, I believe that. Did you even mean it? Every time I almost call you I just take a drink Was a whole relationship just your boyfriend's game? Did I jump the gun? I really thought this time I found someone why did I speak too soon? So real to me, girl Is it real for you? Did I say too much? Even in the breakup you can't make your mind up to the extra measure Gave me back my sweater soaked in your perfume what the hell is wrong with you? This one's for you to cover. Sing it to your lover Now I've seen the whole world heartbreak It's a rich girl we both know the truth that I'm a lot to lose and I jump up My God, I really thought this time I found someone why did I speak too soon? I let my God down yeah, I trusted you Did I say to.

[G]

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