All Songs Considered: Need a reset?

Summary

NPR Music: All Songs Considered—"Need a reset?"

Air date: April 14, 2026
Panel: Host (Robin), Noah Caldwell, Dora Levitt

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Episode Overview

In this spring-inspired edition, the All Songs Considered team assembles a playlist themed around "the best songs for new beginnings and starting over." Whether you need an emotional kickstart, a sonic pick-me-up, or a vehicle for cathartic tears, the episode explores the power of music to reset our moods, outlook, and lives—right when we need it most. The conversation is equal parts nerdy music discussion, personal stories, and joyful music geekery, full of warmth, humor, and camaraderie.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Theme: Spring, New Beginnings, and Sonic Resets

• The episode’s concept: weaving the feeling of reset and starting over, drawing obvious inspiration from springtime’s symbolism.
• A mutual acknowledgment: music holds rare power to shape and lift emotional states, sometimes instantly.

Robin:
"How many times have you just been in the worst mood, everything’s going wrong, and the right song comes up and changes everything?" (01:43)

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2. Song Picks and Meaningful Moments

A. Nina Simone, "Feeling Good"

• [02:54-05:02]
• The panelists agree: this is the GOAT reset song.
• Lyrics emphasize defiance, self-renewal, and celebration:
  “It’s a new dawn, it’s a new day, it’s a new life for me… and I’m feeling good.”
• Backstory: Written for the little-known musical The Roar of the Grease Paint, The Smell of the Crowd (05:21)

Notable take:
"You can just see her strutting away from whatever mess she’s leaving behind. There’s joy in it. It’s a celebration of self, inner strength, personal empowerment." —Robin (04:10)

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B. Cassandra Jenkins, "Hard Drive"

• [06:18-09:29]
• Dora’s pick: combines connection to nature, others, and introspection.
• Sonic atmosphere: calming, lyrics woven from advice and encounters with strangers.
• Personal touch: Dora emailed Jenkins after hearing it—Jenkins replied with thoughtful, therapist-inspired advice.

Dora:
"She’s really just asking people for their advice… that can be the most grounding when you’re in a moment of transition." (08:04)
"And later in the song, she’s like, ‘Breathe with me. Let’s do this together.’" (09:03)

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C. Kashmir, "Brighter Days"

• [11:57-13:14]
• Noah’s upbeat, dance-floor reset: early-90s house celebrating personal and collective liberation.
• Importance of club culture as a space for temporary reinvention.

Noah:
"You create it for yourself, even if you can’t create it for the next 10 years. That’s its own kind of fresh start." (13:24)

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D. Beastie Boys, "Sabotage"

• [18:47-20:22]
• Robin’s “instant reset”—the adrenaline jolt of starting the day anew.
• Not an obvious “start over” song by lyrics, but musically a total reset.

Robin:
"I could be in a coma and you put this song on, I’m suddenly shooting up out of bed." (19:47)

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E. Wednesday, "Reality TV"

• [21:24-24:54]
• Dora’s pick that, like "Sabotage," captures the need to “burst out of your house and run”:
  "This music feels so good to listen to and can just transport me into any sort of mood." (23:04)

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F. Gregory Alan Isakov, "Second Chances"

• [25:15-27:57]
• Noah’s sentimental introspection—soft, hopeful, illustrating that sometimes the “reset” is trusting there will be a reset.
• Lyrics: “If it weren’t for second chances, we’d all be alone.”

Noah:
"Hope as a reset. Or like trusting that there will be a reset." (27:23)

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G. Bob Marley, "Three Little Birds"

• [30:10-32:37]
• Robin’s classic pick about reassurance and hope; so omnipresent it becomes “music wallpaper.”
• Discussion on its nurturing simplicity and the power of “music wallpaper” songs.

Robin:
"If you pause for a second and tune back in… it’s absolutely magical." (31:38)

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H. LCD Soundsystem, "Oh Baby"

• [34:53-38:08]
• Dora’s “reset from a different time in my life.” The music and video (about hope after tragedy) add depth to the theme of new worlds and second chances.

Dora:
"There's hope for something better in the future… there's another world that we can get to." (37:15)

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I. Ryuichi Sakamoto, "ZURE"

• [41:42-43:14]
• Noah brings in a piano physically transformed by the Fukushima tsunami—an evocative metaphor for resets as nature-driven returns to origin or reawakening after trauma.
• Discussion on musical “out-of-tuneness” as beauty:
  "Maybe the fresh start is actually kind of going back to a previous state." —Noah (40:39)

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J. Amy Shark, "Amy Shark"

• [45:32-47:09]
• Robin’s “guaranteed tears” pick—a candid letter to an absent father.
• Emphasizes crying as an essential kind of reset:
  "There have been so many times where, like, I can feel it locked up and I’ll reach for a song that I know is guaranteed to just get it going so I can finally… it’s stuck." (44:50)

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K. Sluice, "Beaty"

• [48:56-51:34]
• Dora’s choice for the poetry in ordinary moments and small, seasonal transitions. Sometimes a fresh start means simply cherishing the present.

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L. Allman Brothers Band, "Ain’t Wastin’ Time No More"

• [54:14-55:08]
• Noah’s closer: a literal “hit the road” song representing forward momentum and not lingering in the past.

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3. Broader Takeaways & Running Themes

• Different Kinds of “Resets”: From emotional catharsis and hope, to adrenaline, solitude, and the collective joy of dance music.
• Community & Connection: Resetting is often relational—through community, music, or even strangers’ wisdom.
• The Power of Music Rituals: Whether to unleash pent-up emotion ("go-to cry songs") or to psych up, songs become tools for agency and healing.

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Memorable Quotes

• Robin on Nina Simone:
  "It’s kind of a kiss-off to whatever came before. There’s joy in it. It’s a celebration of self, inner strength, personal empowerment." (04:10)

• Dora on connection:
  "Have you ever heard the song, been feeling so lost… and the song just came on my Spotify, and I loved it so much I actually sent her [Cassandra Jenkins] an email… and she responded. She gave me some advice from a therapist that she once had." (10:08)

• Noah on house music & liberation:
  "A lot of that early house music was kind of in themes of liberation, breaking out of confines… for the four or five hours that you’re there, you’re a completely different person." (11:08)

• Robin on the need to cry:
  "If I need it, it’s there for me… There have been so many times where… I’ll reach for a song that I know is guaranteed to just get it going so I can finally… get it out." (44:50)

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Notable Segment Timestamps

• [02:54] "Feeling Good" by Nina Simone — The GOAT “reset” song
• [06:18] "Hard Drive" by Cassandra Jenkins — Spring’s wisdom and sonic healing
• [11:57] "Brighter Days" by Kashmir — Club euphoria & the joy of house music
• [18:47] "Sabotage" by Beastie Boys — The adrenaline shot of resetting
• [25:15] "Second Chances" by Gregory Alan Isakov — The hope of a reset
• [30:10] "Three Little Birds" by Bob Marley — Comfort in reassured hope
• [34:53] "Oh Baby" by LCD Soundsystem — Reset through love and science fiction
• [41:42] "ZURE" by Ryuichi Sakamoto — Artistry from disaster, nature’s reset
• [45:32] "Amy Shark" by Amy Shark — Catharsis through vulnerability
• [48:56] "Beaty" by Sluice — Finding beauty in ordinary renewal
• [54:14] "Ain’t Wastin’ Time No More" by Allman Brothers — Forward motion

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Other Songs Mentioned or Quick-Shouted Out

• "This Year" — Mountain Goats
• "Come Clean" — Hilary Duff
• "Jimmy Eat World" — "The Middle"
• Eminem — "Lose Yourself"
• Katrina and the Waves — "Walking on Sunshine"
• Tracy Chapman — "Fast Car"
• The Breeders — "Driving on Nine"
• Anderson .Paak — "Til It’s Over"
• Nappy Roots — "Good Day"
• Pharrell — "Happy"
• Natasha Bedingfield — "Unwritten"
• PJ Harvey, Glen Campbell, etc.

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Final Thoughts and Tone

The episode radiates gratitude for music’s therapeutic and transformational qualities and demonstrates how each listener’s “reset song” is intensely personal, even as certain tracks (from Nina Simone to Bob Marley) seem to belong to a universal soundtrack for new beginnings.

The hosts wrap up feeling genuinely reset and refreshed themselves, crediting both the songs and the sense of community in sharing personal soundtracks for change.

Dora:
"Thanks for this. I needed this. Did we hit reset? I think so, too." (55:11)

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Playlist:
Find all discussed tracks and bonus mentions on the Songs for Starting Over playlist (Spotify, Apple Music). Link available at NPR.

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Transcript

[A]

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[B]

This episode of All Songs Considered comes to you from the NPR Music podcast where you will find this show. We've got new episodes of the show every Tuesday, Alt Latino on Wednesday, and we close out every week with New Music Friday. Noah Caldwell, hey, you produce those shows, all the detail on New Music Friday and finally got you on the show here. Yeah.

[C]

Welcome come to this side of the glass.

[B]

Yeah. How's it feel? Good.

[C]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Well, everything feels kind of jaunty with this music in my headphones, so I'm feeling good.

[B]

I was trying to think, like, what says springtime? This is it, right?

[D]

This is totally it.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. It's like you can see the birds and you feel like Cinderella. Wow, look at that sweater.

[B]

Great post. Adora Levitt, you're here as well. You also help out on those shows,

[D]

New Music Friday and also the tiny

[B]

desk contests I do. Getting close to wrapping that up, we get into all kinds of nerdy stuff, music stuff on this show. Sometimes it's just sharing whatever we think the best new songs of the week are. And sometimes it's an episode like this one where we've got, like a very specific question or theme in mind. And since it is springtime, a time for new beginnings, a time to hit reset, we thought we'd put together a playlist of the best songs for New Beginnings. Best songs for Starting Over. I really, I think actually music's a big player here. How many times have you been, like, just in the worst mood, everything's going wrong, and the right song comes up and changes everything.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

I'm very curious to hear what you all picked because we don't know what we each picked.

[D]

Surprise.

[B]

And honestly, I'm not even sure how we all read the assignment because there's so many different ideas for what a song for Starting over is, but I'm not curious enough to let you go first.

[D]

That's so nice.

[B]

So I thought I'd start big here. I'm gonna go big with what I think is the go. This is the number one, I think the number one all time greatest song that is both for starting over and about starting over before I hit it. Do you want to take a guess on what you think it is this

[D]

year by the Mountain Goats?

[B]

That song, every time we do A call out. I know why you're saying that. Every time we do a call out, that song is the most mentioned song, whether it's songs for starting over, songs to make you feel better, songs of empowerment, that is. What do you think, Noah? You got any?

[C]

I think it has to be Come Clean by Hilary Duff.

[B]

Okay, no, yeah, you're both wrong. It's actually this one.

[C]

I mean.

[E]

Sun in the sky, you know how I feel Breeze drifting on by, you know how I feel It's a new dawn, it's a new day It's a new life for me yeah, It's a new dawn, It's a new, new day New life for me Woo woo, woo and I'm feeling good. Fish in the sea, you know how I feel river running free, you know how I feel Blossom on the trees, you know how I feel It's a new dome, it's a new day, it's a new life Call me and I'm feeling good.

[B]

Nina Simone doing Feeling Good. Come on. Right? I mean, no issues here, right? With this, maybe. Being the Goat was on her 1965 album, I put A Spell on youn. It's obviously the lyrics very much about starting over, but it's got everything. It's kind of a kiss off to whatever came before. It's very defiant. You can just see her just, like, strutting away from whatever mess she's leaving behind. There's joy in it. It's a celebration of self, inner strength, personal empowerment. And you feel better when you listen to it, right? Like, it comes on and you're like, oh, yeah, this song. But then you hit this point, you

[D]

want to, like, walk down the street and just, like, spread your arms and, like, take in the whole day and, like, walk with the decreasing steps in the song. And it's just. It's huge. It feels so good.

[C]

Yeah. Not rushed, either. Like, you're like, I'm taking the time I need. Oh, that's good.

[D]

It's slow.

[C]

It's plotting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And all that imagery of, like. Of, you know, the dawn, the butterflies, the dragonfly, like, you know, there's some literal stuff of, like, I'm saying, I'm gonna start afresh. And then there's all these other, like, metaphorical things that are kind of floating around.

[B]

Exactly.

[C]

Which I think we're gonna probably gonna come across in. These are gonna be some themes.

[B]

Yeah. So, Nina Simone, Feeling Good. Let me ask you this. Have you ever heard of a musical called the Roar of the Grease Paint? The Smell of the Crowd. No, neither had I. But that is the musical that the song Feeling Good was written for.

[E]

What?

[B]

Yeah, it was written by Anthony Newley and. And Leslie Bricus, or maybe Bricussi. I'm not sure how to say their last name for a musical in 1964 called the Roar of the Grease Paint, the Smell of the Crowd. From everything I've read, that was a total flop. But it did gift us this song that Nina Simone covers. I mean, becomes this anthem, you know, a year later. Incredible. Who wants to follow that? Who wants to go next?

[D]

Well, I thought that I had the number one restarting song, but actually, it's a completely different vibe than your song.

[C]

Okay, so.

[D]

So maybe Noah.

[B]

Well, now I'm curious. I gotta know what it is. Yeah, go ahead. What is it?

[D]

Okay. My number one song for myself, and I also just think, generally, is the song that is the best narration for a restart for the Spring for Nature Blooming is Cassandra Jenkins hard drive.

[A]

So these are real things that happen where you can apply these. These important concepts and understand that when we lose our connection to nature, we lose our spirit, our humanity, our sense of self. A security guard stopped me to offer an overview on phenomenal nature. She said, sculpture's not just formed from penetration. You see, men have lost touch with the feminine. And with her pink lipstick and her queen's accent, she went on for a while about our president. I asked the bookkeeper at the end of the seventh ray to tell me what he knew about St. Germain. And he told me about chakras and karma and the purple flame, the birth of the cosmos, the ascended masters, and the astral plane. He said, you know, the mind. The mind is just a hard drive.

[B]

This is a pretty sublime pick to me.

[D]

The song does two things which I think are crucial when you're trying to refind who you are and either come back to yourself or find yourself in a new way. And those two things are, one, understanding your connection to nature and the environment around you, and two, understanding your connection to other people and, like, how you communicate with other people, but also how you see yourself in other people and also with strangers. And in this whole song, she's really just kind of asking people for their advice and just taking advice from the things that she finds in everyday life. And I think that can be the most grounding when you're in a moment of transition.

[B]

Yeah, A reminder.

[D]

A reminder.

[B]

It's like, oh, yeah, yeah.

[C]

And I think this will keep coming back too. Like, we'd like to think we can just make a New, fresh start, completely ourselves without anybody helping. And, like, often, actually, it is like somebody sparking something in you, maybe a song sparking it in you, and, like, you reaching out, being like, oh, yeah, I needed a little bit of, like, a little kick in the butt, right?

[D]

Totally. And also, just, like, sonically, the song is just such this beautiful wash, and her voice is so calming on top of it. And later in the song, she starts counting, and she's like, breathe with me. Like, let's do this together. Yeah.

[A]

So close your eyes. I'll count to three, take a deep breath, count with me.

[D]

And the song, when it ends, it just. It cuts off in her counting, and it feels like it just kind of leaves you to then take in all of this, all of the advice that she's gathered from strangers and the advice that she's seen in her environment. And then she's like, okay, now it's all for you.

[B]

Yeah. And sometimes that kick in the butt, Noah, that you're talking about comes from a security guard at an art museum, which is where that opening voice, that recording is the security guard breaking everything down for. I think Cassandra Jenkins is sort of like the 21st century, like, Guru that we all need, like, big thinker. So much wisdom, so much beauty and serenity.

[D]

And when I first heard the song, I was like, I was feeling so lost. And this song just came on my Spotify, and I loved it so much. I actually sent her an email.

[C]

Oh, wow.

[D]

Yeah. And I was like, this song has completely changed my life. I listen to it every day. And she responded, and I was like, oh, my God, this is the best

[C]

day of my life.

[D]

This is heaven. Yes. Yeah. She responded with something like, she gave me some advice from a therapist that she once had, and I was like,

[C]

this is so thoughtful.

[B]

That's amazing for someone to take the time to do that.

[E]

That's awesome.

[B]

An overview of Phenomenal Nature is the name of the album that's from Cassandra Jenkins that came out in 2021. Great pick.

[C]

All right. I do have some kind of sentimental in your feel stuff later, but I want to start mine with, like, dancey and upbeat and, like, dance floor. Total dance floor. New energy, new chapters, starting over. I love house music, and I love early house music from Chicago. That kind of, like, big, soaring, diva vocals, which we've already had a bunch of good vocals so far, and those kind of, like, stabby piano chords just that early, like, very pure stuff. And a lot of that early house music was kind of in themes of liberation, breaking out of Confines treating the dance floor as a kind of like, escapist place where, like, your change might not be forever and it probably won't even be tomorrow, but, like, for the four or five hours that you're there, like, you're a completely different person. So this one is called Brighter Days. It's by Kashmir is a producer from Chicago from 1992. So lyrically, there's not a ton of words in this, but the couple words that are in it are very simple. Looking for brighter days.

[E]

Sam. I'm feeling so blue. I'm feeling so blue. I need a place to run and hide Relax the wall and clear my mind and dream I'm riding down.

[B]

This is like, if I had to break it down, I would say like, Doris, your pick was like, I need to reset for my life. And this is like, I need a reset for right now. Yeah. This moment, like, you're driving into work and you're stuck in traffic and you're like, oh, my God, this is ticket. And you put this on and then suddenly you're flying.

[C]

Yeah. And there's lots of different versions of that too. Right. And I think also, like, the cultural context of like early Chicago house was black queer culture needing a space that is its own.

[B]

Right.

[C]

Where you can say, I can't really change, like, the world around me, all the dysfunction, all the whatever that we're going through. But we can have our own club, we can have our own music, and we can have a night where you're like, maybe it's strangers next to you and you have a completely clean slate with them. And like, that's just the. You create it for yourself, even if you can't create it for the, you know, 10 years down the line. Right.

[B]

Are you hitting the clubs? You like hitting the clubs?

[C]

I mean, not as much as I used to, Robin, but you did you like dancing? I mean, I wasn't, you know, it wasn't there in 1992 in Chicago. But no, I love house.

[D]

I was there.

[C]

Dora was there. She tells me all about it. I'm not even sure your parents were there. And, you know, this isn't like the earliest. Right. This is like once Chicago house became a little more polished. It's in there, but yeah, I love that kind of. You do kind of forget about the world outside of those walls for a little bit.

[E]

Right.

[C]

And that's its own kind of like fresh start clothes, Queensland.

[D]

There's nothing better than just feeling completely free in dancing with your community.

[B]

I'm a at home dancer. I really loved I never hit the clubs ever. I'm trying to think if I've ever been to a dance club. But I do love to dance, and I'm dancing at home all the time while cooking or whatever, you know, terrorizing my children because they're yelling at me to stop and because it's so mortal, they're just mortified. So when it's a 92 and Cashmere's C A J M E R E,

[C]

yeah

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[B]

On this American Life, we tell stories

[F]

about when things change. Like for this guy David, whose entire life took a sharp, unexpected and very unpleasant turn.

[B]

And it did take me a while to realize it's basically because the monkey pressed the button. That's right, because the monkey pressed the button. Surprising stories every week.

[F]

Wherever you get your podcasts, where do

[B]

you all land with spring? Are you like, pro spring? Is it like a relief? You're, like, so happy. Really?

[D]

Yeah, both. I love spring so much, but sometimes getting to Spring, and it's not summer yet, and the year doesn't feel like it's that far along is exhausting to me. But if spring, the season, were anywhere else in the pattern of the year, I would love it more.

[B]

How have I come this far in my life and never considered the possibility that we could reorder?

[D]

Right.

[B]

The seasons.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. That's interesting.

[D]

Yeah. If you try really hard, you can.

[B]

Yeah, yeah. I'm coming around to it.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Yeah. I always used to hate it. I've always, like, fall, winter. I would still say spring's dead last for me.

[E]

What?

[B]

Wow. Dead last. But I'm starting to, like. I'm starting to enjoy the benefits of the relief that, like, when it finally starts to warm up, like, it's been cold and like, it finally warmed up here.

[D]

Dead last.

[B]

Yeah. I would go fall, winter, summer, spring.

[D]

I do. Fall, spring, winter, summer, fall, spring. Yeah.

[B]

So you like the in between?

[D]

I like the in between.

[B]

Well, since Noah brought an instant jolt of adrenaline, I have something that falls into that theme. Right. Because I don't think when you hear this, it's not a super obvious pick, because there's nothing really about it that says starting over. Certainly not springtime. But for me, whenever I hear it, it is an instant reset. Like, if you put a clock on it, if you're clocking that pitch, it's nearly 100 miles an hour. Fastball. Fastest reset of any song I know.

[E]

You plan I'mma sit and shake this water gate I can't be there. Cause your crystal ball ain't so crystal clear? While you're sitting back and wonder why I'm not just fucking thorn in my side. Oh, my God, it's sober on. I'm telling you I'm a sabotage. So listen up. Cause you can't say nothing. You shut me down with a punch on your butt. But you I'm out and I'm gone. I tell you now I keep it on and on.

[B]

Does this go any louder?

[D]

I wish we had a video on

[C]

you so bad I could be in a coma.

[B]

And you put this song on. I'm suddenly, I'm, like, shooting up out of bed. Sabotaged by the Beastie Boys from Hill Communication, 1994. In case anybody didn't know it, you

[D]

could have closed your eyes and just, like, pointed out a Beastie Boys song, and it would have been great.

[B]

But this one, man. Yeah, I used to. When I was a runner, still, I had a running mix, and this was the first song on my running mix. And I would Hit play. And I'd bolt out the front door like I'd been shot out of a cannon.

[C]

I mean, it's remarkable how musically, like.

[B]

I'm sorry,

[C]

I couldn't hear you.

[B]

I'm gonna let you finish.

[C]

I couldn't hear you over the Sabotage.

[B]

Oh, my God. Sorry, go ahead.

[C]

You can get this feeling of starting over in fresh slate or whatever from like big happy major chords, what you brought Dora, like, kind of plodding minor chord. Nina Simone, slow jazzy stuff. We're touching on a lot of different, like, timbres. And they each can kind of get there, which you would think it's all just like twinkly. I don't know, big, big major, kind of swelling symphonic stuff that might invoke this time of year. No, actually, it's. Anything that does it for you.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

When I get to spring, I'm like starving for, like, anything. Starving for any.

[B]

You just wanna feel something.

[D]

You just wanna feel something. And there's so many different ways to do that. Like you said, I have a really good follow up to that. I have a really good. Just bursting out of your house and running until you scream. Which is what I did when I heard this song for the first time, which is Reality TV Argument Bleeds by Wednesday.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[C]

It really does fit with Sabotage. Yeah, it's great.

[B]

Follow up.

[C]

One walk for it to run Y.

[E]

Sam. Taking the ticks off of you

[G]

if

[E]

you need me I'll call you in wino shoes he drags his feet and I crawl toward you uncillibly.

[B]

You know, my only issue with this album when it came out last year was that the whole album wasn't like this. Like, this is the opening cut. And then the album kind of ends up kind of going all over the place. Lots of different directions.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah.

[B]

But wow, great pick.

[D]

Yeah. This song, I mean, if you're like me. And after Rat Saw God, we're like checking Wednesday's website every single day looking for new music. When I first heard this album and this was the opener, I was just like, oh, we're back. This is exactly what I've been looking for. This music feels so good to listen to and can just transport me into any sort of mood that I need to be in.

[B]

Yeah. I think one thing that I started to settle on is I. Because I came up with so many different songs, but I really kind of came back to that reset. Yeah, whatever. And there. Anytime you need a reset in all of its different forms. Because when I first started thinking about songs for starting Over, I thought, like, oh, okay, maybe more like the Nina Simone, where it's like you're coming out of a breakup or something like that. Right. It's a whole new day, but it's really just about reconfiguring whatever space you're in.

[D]

Totally. And Carly, I feel like her lyrics, they have such a strong sense of place and memory that you also really feel like you can kind of escape your life and be transported into her patchwork North Carolina scene that she writes about so beautifully, which is a nice way to kind of move forward by just leaving yourself for a little bit.

[C]

That's a good point because I pulled up the lyrics as we were going along, because I've heard the song. I love it, but I never really stopped to think what these lyrics are. And I was kind of scanning through, like, where is the. Like the reset here? And actually the reset is that I felt like I was in there by the wooden bridge. You know, you're at the movie Burning from the Scream, like, sitting there with her. And actually, that was. For those 40 seconds that we were sitting there. I was reset. I was in that place. Yeah, yeah. Even if it's not explicit, it's like she's. Yeah, exactly. She's taking you there.

[B]

So that was from the album Bleeds. That just. Again, it just came out last year. Noah, what do you want to.

[C]

Okay. I said I had some, like, sentimental in your feel stuff. We'll go there Now. Probably doesn't need a ton of introduction because it's pretty explicit in lyrics. This is Second Chances by Gregory Allen Isaac. Off.

[B]

This is really nice.

[E]

Yeah. All my heroes set up straight. They stare at the ground they radiate. Me I'm mumbling in the kitchen for the sun to pay off. Lonely as a rain on a cold coffee cup I'm so sick how digging for bones if it weren't for second chances we'd all be alone.

[B]

This song's almost as much a vibe as anything. Yeah, I mean, just like that opening guitar, the second that comes in. Didn't you find your shoulders instantly lowering?

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

And like a soft smile.

[C]

There's. There's a softness to a ton of his music, especially from this albums from 2013. But that also he somehow summoned some power. I mean. I mean, he'll like play at Red Rocks and like, fill the whole thing with. With this just like acoustic, very analog sound. And, you know, there's this refrain in the song. If it weren't for second chances, we'd all be alone. I think that's like very much to the core of what we're talking about. And everybody can relate to it because probably everybody's been given a second chance by somebody in their life. A parent, a sibling, a partner or whatever. And there's also, you know, there's the kind of defiant stuff that we've been talking about. And then there's also, I think. And I kept stumbling on songs like this as I was thinking about what to bring, where like, actually the person, the narrator, whoever you want it to be, is kind of still in the middle of something and can see that they're gonna break out of it and they might need a second chance soon. And, you know, the lyrics of this, I think, are that, I mean, this person, I think, is still struggling. And then the end of each verse is like, but you know, there will be a second chance.

[B]

So this is for you. It's like hope as a reset.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. Or like trusting that there will be a reset. And you know that you can tell yourself that. And you know, it's not that defiant kind of walk out and hit the reality TV bleeds first chord. But it's like, we'll get there.

[D]

I really like how you said, it seems like he's still in the middle of it. Cause it almost feels like he's. It feels very much like a lullaby, but he's like weaving a tale of an experience that he once had as a way to help you forward. Like how he was in the middle of something hard and he did get through it, like you said.

[C]

Right. And starts with talking about all of my heroes. Sit up straight. When I hear that, I'm like, you're probably not sitting on up straight right now. Right.

[B]

You're like, I sat up a little

[F]

straighter when I heard that.

[C]

And it's a little bit aspirational. And like, he's very self conscious about that. And so. Yeah. No, I love this song.

[B]

So Gregory Allen. Isakoff.

[C]

Isakoff.

[B]

Isakoff from 2013, that song second Chances. And the album was called the Weatherman. Did you know that the best way to keep up with everything going on in the whole NPR music world is with a newsletter?

[C]

I did know that.

[B]

Did you know that?

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Oh, okay. Do you subscribe to the newsletter?

[C]

I do. Yeah. So, yeah.

[B]

So we've got NPR Music has a newsletter. Send it out a couple times a week and you can find out all about tiny desks, new music, interviews, features, whatever we got cooking. If you go to npr.org newsletters, there's actually a whole bunch of stuff you can subscribe to there, but NPR Music is one of them. So go there, check that out. And maybe after you subscribe to that, and I'm just spitballing here, you could leave us a really great, glowing review. Unlike Apple Music, Apple, the Apple podcasts, you can only leave a comment on the whole show. But in Spotify, you can leave comments on each individual episode. So you can do it there. Wherever you get your podcasts, maybe you

[D]

could listen to the whole show. Oh, yeah. Go all the way to the back.

[B]

Wow, you're really blue sky in this.

[D]

I like that. Yeah. So your comment is wholesome.

[B]

Well, Noah, I think this is really interesting how this is working, sort of the arc of the flow of this mix. And this is one of the reasons why I like us not knowing what we're picking, because it ends up becoming very prescriptive, I think. And in this case, it allows me to just go to this next one that I was thinking about that I think has sort of a similar vibe. It's about hope. And this one, I thought was. I mean, I don't know. To me, I think there's a case to be made that this could be the goat, actually, maybe over the Nina, but I don't know.

[D]

I mean, it's a classic.

[B]

Yeah.

[E]

Don't worry about a thing. Gonna be all right. Singing don't worry about a thing. Cause every little thing Gonna be all right. Rise up this morning Smile with the rising sun Three little birds it's by my doorstep Singing sweet songs A melody's pure and true. Singing this is my message to you. Woohoo. Singing don't worry about a thing I'll never live back. Gonna be all right.

[B]

So Bob Marley's Three Little Birds from Exodus. It's one of those songs that it has been in so many TV shows, so many movies, probably commercials that I'm not even remembering, but it's like everywhere. So ubiquitous. We've all stopped hearing it. Right. The minute it comes on, it's like music wallpaper. But if you pause for a second and tune back in with how amazing this song is, it's absolutely magical.

[C]

And again, the kind of natural imagery of birds outside your window kind of chirping to, like, remind you, like, hey, that's what they're telling you. Yeah, the same spring imagery.

[B]

Yeah. I think there's been a lot of debate about what birds he's actually referring to. Well, his backup singers argued that he used to call them his little birds and that he was singing about them. And other people said, oh, no, it's literal. It's about the birds singing outside and about a bright sunny day.

[D]

And I really liked how you described how this song is so just like in general media that it's become wallpaper. Because that is really, really true. And even when you played it just now, I was kind of like, oh, I know this song. But then I had to really tune into what actually was going on instead of just relying on my memory of it.

[B]

Yeah, Yeah. I mean, we could do a whole show of nothing. But songs like that that have, that are so ubiquitous now, like, I don't know, Stairway to Heaven. You know, like people. We stopped hearing stairway to heaven 40 years ago.

[E]

Right.

[B]

Whenever it comes on now. But it's actually pretty amazing song. I know. So Bob Marley, three little birds from Exodus that came out in 1977.

[F]

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[B]

I mean, I don't know. We've got so much stuff. I know we all want to play and we're, we're just not going to get to all of it. So what have we done? Maybe we've done a half a dozen songs or more here. I think we need to start when we go with something, I think it needs to be like a Sophie's Choice here. Like this one I have to play. And then if we got more time, then we'll go to the next one that you're like, I've got to play. So, yeah. So what would that be?

[D]

I think my one that was my first thought besides, after maybe Cassandra Jenkins was my first thought now, but my first thought maybe five years ago for myself or 10 years ago for myself when I was in. I'm Showing My Age in high school would be. My one song that really helped me through transitioning out of my high school life was LCD sound systems. Oh, baby.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[E]

Sam.

[B]

Oh baby.

[E]

Oh baby. You're having a bad dream. Here in my arms. Oh, sugar. Came to me. Could all be a bad thing.

[B]

Yeah, I hear it. It's reassuring in the same way. The other couple songs we just played were.

[D]

There's a hope for something better in the future. You can like see something that could be great. Have you ever seen the music video for.

[B]

I don't think I have. You know, it's. Honestly, it's great hearing this because with some distance now, because I'm really loving this. But I remember when this album came out, it had been like a long time since they had put a record out. I think 22. So this one was this 2017 from American Dream. This is happening came out like 2010.

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

And which was like phenomenal, like mind blowing album. And this one I remember I didn't receive as well. I was kind of like, okay, I think we just got that one great album from them. But now, now that I've cleared my head and I don't have whatever baggage I was holding on to when it first came out, like, this is really great.

[D]

Yeah. I mean, yeah, I remember when that album came out and everyone's kind of like, okay, yeah, I guess. But yeah, this song is so hopeful to me. And the music video is about. It's directed by. Is it Rain Johnson who did Star Wars? Rianne.

[B]

Rian.

[D]

Rian. Rian Johnson. And it's about two scientists who figure out teleportation.

[B]

Oh, wow.

[D]

And they figure out teleportation in their basement. And then there's a robbery and it's a couple and the wife gets shot and she dies. And it ends with the husband teleporting with her. But he turns off the machine before they reach the other side. And so they're suspended in nothingness, I assume. And it's heartbreaking music video, but to me it carries so much hope in the beyond. And that there is like another. There is another world that we can get to. And there is something better out there than we don't. We can't grasp onto.

[B]

You know, I'm hearing so much now about like, I think there was some new film company that was just started to make short form videos like where their whole narrative films in like two or three minutes. We've had them for 40 years. They're called music videos.

[D]

They're called music videos, people.

[B]

I. Now I've gotta go look that video.

[C]

Like, funnily enough, we actually. Our picks today haven't been that overtly romantic.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Like, they've been a lot of, like, personal kind of bootstraps. Like, you got this. Whatever. And, like, this is very overtly romantic and kind of saying, like, we in whatever new phase we're gonna go into, probably can only do it with each other. And, like, probably need another set of hands, another set of whatever. And, like, you know, you're having a bad dream here in my arms, but, like, you know, it'll be okay.

[D]

And, like.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I'm surprised it took us, however, five or six songs to kind of get to a. Yeah, lovely.

[B]

That.

[D]

Yeah. Community. Being together. You don't have to do it alone. Totally.

[B]

All right. No, I think we're back to you. Okay.

[C]

This one will require a little bit more of a backstory, a little bit more context. But the music we're gonna hear is from Ryuichi Sakamoto, who has now passed away. But he's a late Japanese composer, pianist, like, sound wizard across a ton of different mediums. And after the 2011 earthquake and tsunami in Japan, he went to some schools in Fukushima and some other prefectures around there, and he and his team, like, helped repair instruments that had been damaged in the flooding. And so while he was at one of those schools, he found this piano. It's this upright piano which had kind of been on its side in the sand. It had been, like, half submerged, and when the water went away, they found it. They got it out of the mud. But first, I want to just play a little clip of this. Is Ryuichi Sakamoto first trying out the piano at that school.

[B]

Oh, wow. Did they include this on the album?

[C]

They didn't. I'll get to the album in a second. This is a clip from a documentary that came out.

[B]

Oh, okay.

[C]

A few years later.

[B]

I think that piano sounds perfect just the way it is.

[C]

Well, and he does, too. So he purposely didn't tune it.

[B]

They.

[C]

You know, they made sure it was. It could structurally be okay. And you hear little notes there. He purposely didn't tune it as he used it on his next album and, you know, brought it around. And so I want to read a quick quote from a interview he did with the Brooklyn Rail in 2018 talking about this. He says, I concluded that that piano is tuned by nature, not by humans. Normal pianos. Humans forcefully tried to tune in a Very artificial way. And also to build in a very artificial form of the piano with a lot of force to make the grand piano curve. They force the wood in that frame for six months. So as time goes by, the tuning gets worse, gets out of tune. Because the things of nature would like to go back to what they were. That's what out of tune means. So I thought the tsunami piano, that's tuned by nature, it's beautiful.

[B]

Wow.

[C]

And so I love the idea that, like, maybe, like, the fresh start is, like, actually kind of going back to a previous state. Maybe our more childlike states are, you know, the nature that we got away from with all this other, you know, crap. And so. And I love, like, you know, listening to that clip. Like, you gotta remember, like, he's, like, in a school that had just been hit by a tsunami and, like, that music kind of filling up that space. And, like, the metaphor is, like, very present. Right. It's like the piano has new life, hopefully. The school has new life, the town has new life and all this stuff. So I love that.

[B]

Have you listened to this show before? Because you're way too smart to be on this show.

[D]

I had the same thought.

[B]

I was like, this is way too expensive.

[C]

I thought to myself, I was like, am I allowed to bring something like this? I don't know.

[B]

Wow. Mind blown, Noah.

[C]

Well, I think Riucci is. That's just how his mind works. And I love that quote, just because it kind of shows you how he. How he thought about things. And so he did use this piano on his next album. We can play that next. I gotta say, as beautiful as that last one was, I find this song that he used it on kind of unsettling and a little bit creepy. But, you know, then again, this piano has been through a lot.

[D]

The sentiment is so bad.

[C]

The sentiment is there. But this is the song Zur Z u R e from Ryuichi Sakamoto's album Async. Kind of goes on like this for a while, so it makes my skin crawl a little bit.

[B]

Yeah, I think it's so Z U R e. I think. I think it's zure.

[C]

Oh, is it?

[B]

Which is a Japanese word. It means, like, when things aren't in alignment. Like, out of alignment. Yeah. No, no.

[D]

Didn't you live in Japan?

[B]

I did, yes.

[C]

I didn't know that. I'm like, did you know Japan had an earthquake?

[B]

I heard that they did have an earthquake. Yes. I lived through many, but this is kind of unsettling. It is. It is a kind of reset where is it taking you when you hear it? I mean, without the context that you gave, which was really beautiful, it's hard to hear that for sure.

[C]

I'm not sure you would hear it. And I'm always. His music takes me into, I think, very introspective places and very, like, I want to sit in a dark room and not have anybody talk to me when I'm listening to this kind of music. So I wouldn't necessarily say this is the song to go out on spring day and get yourself back into the mood, but I do love the idea that maybe the tools and the context of the way that music was made, whether or not you can hear it in your headphones kind of transmits a story. And maybe there's a ton of other ways that the actual instruments that people have used in their music that we hear have all those backstories, and we'll never know them. Yeah.

[B]

This isn't what I would call, like, a first date song.

[D]

No. But it does soundtrack something not so technical with a very mechanic sound, which I really do appreciate. And it is a really nice thing to listen to a structural sound, to listen to something that. That just repeats.

[B]

Well, our producer for the show is the incomparable Alina Edwards, and I'm gonna ask her, what have we played? What is it? What have we done? Like, nine. We've done nine. Well, so I've got one that I absolutely have to play. I was thinking again, of all the different ways the song can help you reset and start over, and what is the. The best way for me and anyone who knows me can guess this. For me to start over. Oh, come on, Dora. I'm looking at you.

[D]

I know you know this.

[B]

Ball my eyes out.

[D]

Oh, okay. Yes. I was waiting to talk about how we cry.

[B]

We have to. We have to. There have been so many times where, like, I can feel it locked up and I'll reach for a song that I know is guaranteed to just get it going so I can finally. I'd like it stuck. I mean, there's so many I could choose from, but I'm gonna go with a song. It's called Amy Shark by Amy Shark. Do you know Amy Shark? Oh, Amy Shark. Amy Shark. She's got an album coming, so you're gonna start hearing more about her again this year. It's been a minute, but Amy Shark, she has a song called Amy Shark. And what you need to know going into this song is that in this song, she had an absent father. And in the song, she's Addressing him.

[G]

I grew up in a small house near a city cemetery. You could hear them howl as they lower the ones they love in the ground. I pulled out my own baby teeth. The pain never seemed to bother me. I made friends with the kids down the street. I better go, it's getting late. I've been outside all day on the walk home, work out what I'll say. I still lose it every now and and then in an interview or photo shoot. I could be halfway through a show and it all comes creeping in. And I've sacrificed all my friends, birthdays, weddings, everything. And it's heartbreaking but this is my dream and I did it all without a phone call or a Christmas card. You have no heart. This is my way of saying don't start. And you should see the shows I play and hear them sing the words I say. I wonder sometimes if you're in the crowd.

[B]

Oh my God, this song just destroys me. But as she goes on, you realize, you know, she's fine. She has made it in this life and she just needed to write this letter to him. I mean, of course it makes me think of my own relationship with my daughter and how badly I don't want to mess it up. But yeah, this song, if I need it, it's there for me.

[C]

I like that you say like you actually will seek it out. Cuz some people would say, oh, I got that creeping feeling coming on. I'm about to cry out. I'm going to turn on like a block it out song. A like, you know, push it away song. And you're like, come on, let's go.

[B]

It's, we got to get this. It's like, it's, you know, it's like when you've had too much to drink and you really know you probably should just barf and get it over with because you're going to feel a lot better. Yeah, it's just like, yeah. When she says I did it all without a phone call or a Christmas card or a hug or anything, I just thought, oh, come on, man, you can't even send a Christmas card or birthday card. What's wrong with you? Other recent contenders for this that I can rely on, no surprise here, but Matty Diaz, God person, Mia Folix this time around. Christine from the seventh grade, Ben Folds. All those.

[D]

I also, whenever I'm about to cry, I like to just let it happen. I also find myself in the spring crying at the most mundane things that I just see in the world, like small acts of kindness, but also I've said this before. I watch so much tv, and anytime anything exciting happens in a TV show, I'm just, like, bawling.

[B]

Like, if you're watching, Is it Cake?

[D]

Exactly. And it's not cake.

[B]

And then it's like, oh, my God. I really thought that shoe was cake.

[D]

Yeah. And it's a real person. And I'm like, oh, my God. The humanity in this show is amazing.

[B]

You have watched Is it Cake?

[D]

Of course. Have you watched Is it Slime?

[B]

Oh, no. God, no. Is that a thing I have watched Is it Cake? I've watched a lot of Is it Cake?

[D]

I'll send you some. Is it slime?

[B]

All right, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to derail you. You're starting to have a moment here, and I'm taking you out of it.

[D]

Well, anyways, this song, it just came out. It's called BD and by the band Sluice

[E]

her doll as the sun goes down Mary's haircut makes a shadow on the pavement and bounces in front of us and floats a little L. I used to move every spring and now I don't. I cried at the state fair Honeybee town Hearing how they pick their queen I got back on the ssri. My parents met in high school when they were just 17 I drive out of Valleys and fall in love with McNulty and Beatty.

[B]

Should I know what McNulty and Beatty is a reference to?

[D]

It's from the Wire.

[B]

Oh, yes. Okay. I did. I watched the Wire. I always just think of, like, Bubs.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Wow. I really like this because it's such a simple. Like, what you were saying about how the little things will make you burst into tears this time of year. It's like the image of this person just taking their dog for a walk and the way the sun creates their shadow, casts a shadow on the sidewalk.

[C]

And I love that line. I used to move every spring and now I don't. Something like that. Which, like. Yeah, maybe like, actually staying put and not making a huge change and addressing your. Yeah. Get back on the SSRIs and just, like, notice the little things in the place that you are, as opposed to, like, making a big rupture, maybe that's actually like, a kind of, you know, fresh start in a time.

[D]

Totally. Yeah. And grasp onto the things that have helped you in the past, the things that you know and love. And it also. I mean, it speaks to the season. It's talking about snow thawing in winter. And I said, when we Were talking about hard drive. How the things that I notice in transitions that I want to grasp onto are the small moments in nature. And there's so much of that here.

[B]

So Sluice is the band, the album companion. Oh, it just came out earlier this year.

[D]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Oh, just in March. Okay. I totally missed this. So the song was Beaty by Sluice. So no, you have the distinct honor here of taking us out. But I. There's so many things that we didn't get to that I know we wanted to play and I had so many things to choose from here. We ought to mention some others. I'll just say right off the bat, I didn't play Jimmy Worlds the Middle, which. Such a good one, which is like that. That would have been like. I mean, another one I thought of like Eminem's Lose Yourself. Like, that's a great. Like, it's go time. Okay, don't laugh at this one. Katrina and the Waves, Walking on Sunshine. Come on. I mean, it's a great song, right? And you put that on, you're gonna feel better. Oh, I think an interesting one that we could have done and talked about is Fast Car.

[D]

Yeah, I almost picked Fast Car.

[B]

Yeah. I think because even though she's kind of stuck in this moment, it is sort of like. Like this reset reminder of like, okay, you've gotta find some direction for your life here or you're gonna be stuck. What were some of your others?

[D]

I almost picked Driving on Nine by the Breeders.

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[D]

Which is just such a good song to listen to. When the sun is out. There was some PJ Harvey that I was thinking about.

[B]

Oh, PJ Harvey.

[C]

Yeah.

[D]

Yeah. And then the one that I really almost like threw in there at the last minute was an Anderson Paak song, Til it's over that was like a one off single that he did. And FK Twigs did like a whole, like choreographed a whole dance to it and it's a really great song.

[C]

Good Day by Nappy Roots. Gonna be a good day. It's just like wake up and tell yourself things are good Happy by Pharrell or something. I think in that kind of in between phase, like, things are gonna be great. Unwritten. Natasha Bedingfield. Yeah, just right in that lane. And then. Yeah, I have a couple more I'll mention when I do my last one. Cause I think there's of a theme of this.

[B]

Like, well, let's. Yeah, let's get to it.

[C]

I mean, I think there you mention. I think there is this, like. There's this tenured tradition of like, hitting the road, the highway as a, like, I gotta get out of here, fresh start kind of thing. And a lot of that's kind of twangy and like, I think of like on the Road again or like, I always love Gentle On My Mind, that Glenn Campbell song. He's like, he's on the road and he's like, seeing all these things going by, but he's still got her in the back of his head. And so the last song I have is very literal, probably doesn't need a lot of explanation. But one of the better kind of like, hit the road road, trippy American bands, the Allman Brothers Band, ain't wasting time no more. I love that song. It's just like open road, time's coming.

[B]

I thought you were going to say, like, Southbound, which is another good one.

[C]

Yeah, I think they've, they've probably got an album's worth of these kinds of songs. Right?

[B]

Midnight Rider is another good album. So we'll do this. We'll put everything that we that we played and talked about into a playlist and anything else we can think of in, like, an expanded playlist. We'll call it Songs for Starting Over. You can find it on Spotify, Apple Music, and we'll include a link for that on the page for this episode on the NPR site. Before we go, though, I want to give a special shout out to Alina Edwards. This episode, it was her idea. This whole show was her idea. She produced it. She made it happen. Alina has been interning with NPR Music this year and is wrapping up that internship at the end of this week. It goes so fast. So I'm so glad that she had this idea for a show because it's a great one. Very bummed to. Well, we're not saying goodbye. A new It's a new start. It's a reset.

[C]

Noah Caldwell, thanks for having me. Robin. This is fun.

[B]

Dora Levitt, thanks for having me. Thanks for this. I, I needed this. This was like, I do you feel better? Like, did we hit Reset? I think so, too. And you're listening to All Songs Considered from NPR Music.

[E]

Last Sunday morning, the sunshine fell Sing the same with the help of God and true friends I come a real loud. I still have two strong legs and even wings to fly. And I was in time. No more time goes by like 13 and faster things.

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