Summer '25 Album Preview

Summary

All Songs Considered: Summer '25 Album Preview Released June 10, 2025 | Host: Robin Hilton | Guests: Sheldon Pierce & Celia Gregory

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Introduction

In the vibrant summer episode of NPR's flagship music program, All Songs Considered, host Robin Hilton teams up with Sheldon Pierce from NPR Music and first-time guest Celia Gregory, host at WNXP in Nashville. The trio delves into the most anticipated album releases of Summer 2025, showcasing their excitement and providing insightful commentary on each artist's latest work.

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Featured Albums

Wet Leg – Moisturizer

One of the standout discussions centers on Wet Leg's eagerly awaited sophomore album, Moisturizer. Celia Gregory enthuses, "I think Wet Leg is my favorite band right now. Everything about them is so perfect" [03:09]. Sheldon Pierce echoes this sentiment, highlighting the band's growth: "These are love songs... they're settling in a little bit and growing up right before us" [04:03].

Robin Hilton adds depth to the conversation: "All three of the members who they tour with have writing credits on this record... you can really hear that across this record" [04:21]. The album, releasing on July 11th, blends Wet Leg's signature sass with more reflective moments, showcasing a matured sound without losing their playful edge.

Marissa Nadler – New Radiations

Moving to folk music, Robin Hilton introduces Marissa Nadler's latest album, New Radiations, set for release on August 15th. Nadler's introspective lyrics and haunting melodies take center stage as she sings, "Is it love or suicide?" from the track Cpr [02:02].

Celia Gregory initially mislabels Nadler as a "folk singer" but quickly embraces the broader genre, noting, "Her music isn't always this quiet. Her voice isn't always this hushed" [07:38]. Sheldon Pierce appreciates the album's emotional depth: "It's a good lesson because... exactly. This song especially sounds like the kind of album I want to listen to this summer with headphones" [08:37].

Superchunk – Songs in the Key of Yikes

Superchunk, a beloved band from Chapel Hill, is discussed with enthusiasm. Celia Gregory praises their new album, Songs in the Key of Yikes, particularly the single Everybody Dies: "Quintessential Superchunk here... moving into a bit more hope" [11:38].

Sheldon Pierce appreciates their consistency and fun spirit: "They still maintain this fun about them... hepat it as their first record with the touring members involved" [12:17]. The album, releasing in late August, continues Superchunk's legacy of hook-laden lo-fi rock infused with punk energy.

Indigo D'Souza – Precipice

Indigo D'Souza's upcoming album, Precipice, is highlighted for its pop-infused sound. Releasing on July 25th, the album features the single Crying Over Nothing, which blends folk sensibilities with polished pop production. Sheldon Pierce remarks, "She's staying true to what she's sharing and how much of her heart she's just pouring out" [17:52], while Robin Hilton notes the album's perfect balance: "It strikes that perfect balance between sorrow and joy" [19:36].

Lucretia Dalt – A Danger to Ourselves

Lucretia Dalt returns with A Danger to Ourselves, set for September 5th. Robin Hilton describes the album as "a bit more grounded, less fictional, based more in personal experience" [22:28], yet maintains her characteristic off-kilter style. Sheldon Pierce praises the album's dreamy quality: "It's so dreamy... loving that" [24:17].

Coco Rocco – Tough Times Never Last

Emerging from London, Coco Rocco's Tough Times Never Last is celebrated for its vibrant and chill vibes. Releasing on July 11th, the album fuses jazz, neo-soul, and funk influences. Celia Gregory likens their creativity to "magical creatures from another dimension" [27:22], while Sheldon Pierce lauds their mission-driven approach: "They are trying to do justice to where they've come from and also make it sound like something fresh and new" [28:43].

Parcels – Loved

Parcels, the Australian disco-rock ensemble, are introduced with their new album, Loved, releasing on September 12th. Celia Gregory describes the title track You Got Me Feeling as "the most unambiguous, uplifting, joyful, euphoric pop that I've heard this year" [35:10]. Sheldon Pierce adds, "I feel like it just is what we need" [35:54], emphasizing the album's dance-friendly vibes.

Doobie Brothers – Sorry

The legendary Doobie Brothers make an appearance with their album Sorry, hailed for its sunny '70s pop aesthetic. Celia Gregory praises the album's harmonies and guitar work, noting, "There's a great example of... It's like Cheeseball, but so joyful and fun" [36:27]. Robin Hilton highlights the band's enduring groove: "More bands who are just out here having fun, bringing positivity and good vibes" [38:27].

Big Thief – Double Infinity

Big Thief's Double Infinity is discussed as their first album as a trio, released on September 5th. Sheldon Pierce commends the band's relentless creativity: "If Adrian doesn't want to stop writing great songs, who. Don't" [41:35]. Celia Gregory envisions Adrienne Lenker reaching a "Dylan level" with her profound lyricism [42:18]. Robin Hilton praises the album's vibrancy and field recording elements: "This one shrinks again. Only 10 songs, but so full of life, so vibrant" [40:42].

Georgia Harmer – Eye of the Storm

Concluding the featured albums, Georgia Harmer's Eye of the Storm is introduced as a powerful debut set for August 15th. Celia Gregory is captivated by Harmer's lyrical imagery: "Home early with the flu... the ways that she ties the present to the past" [44:02]. Sheldon Pierce appreciates the song's emotional resonance: "It's really sparse and gorgeous. I want to hear more" [45:58].

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Lightning Round: Additional Summer Releases

In a rapid-fire segment, the hosts briefly highlight several other anticipated albums:

• Hotline TNT – Raspberry Moon (June 20th)
• The Black Keys – No Rain, No Flowers (August)
• Lorde – Solar Power (June 27th)
• Burna Boy – No Sign of Weakness (July 11th)
• Clips – Let God Sort Him Out (July 11th)
• Lord Huron – The Cosmic Selector, Volume 1 (July 18th)
• Nourish By Time – The Passionate Ones (August 22nd)
• Frankie Cosmos & Babymetal – Different Talking & Metal Fourth (June 27th)
• Levi's – A Matter of Time (August 22nd)
• The Beaches – No Hard Feelings (August 29th)

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Notable Quotes

• Sheldon Pierce on Wet Leg's growth: "These are love songs... they're settling in a little bit and growing up right before us." [04:21]
• Marissa Nadler's poignant lyrics: "Is it love or suicide?" [02:02]
• Celia Gregory on Superchunk: "They consistently amaze me." [12:17]
• Sheldon Pierce on Big Thief: "If Adrian doesn't want to stop writing great songs, who. Don't." [41:35]
• Celia Gregory on Parcels: "This is the most unambiguous, uplifting, joyful, euphoric pop that I've heard this year." [35:10]

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Conclusion

As Summer 2025 unfolds, All Songs Considered provides a comprehensive and enthusiastic preview of the season's most exciting album releases. From the playful yet matured sounds of Wet Leg to the heartfelt introspections of Marissa Nadler and the groove-filled tunes of Superchunk, listeners are treated to a rich tapestry of music that promises to define the summer. The hosts' insightful discussions and genuine excitement make this episode a must-listen for music enthusiasts eager to discover their next favorite album.

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Stay tuned to All Songs Considered for more music discoveries, artist interviews, and in-depth conversations about the big questions in music.

Transcript

[Robin Hilton]

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[Sheldon Pierce]

I'm rolling now and I've tested it and I think it'll be. It'll be good enough. But it's your show, so that's your determination.

[Celia Gregory]

You just described exactly where the bar is for our show. Good enough. And I'm recording, so we'll just say the show's already started. Well, it is. All Songs Considered. I'm Robin Hilton, and Sheldon Pierce from NPR Music is here. Hey, Sheldon.

[Robin Hilton]

Hey, Robin.

[Celia Gregory]

And first time on the show, Celia Gregory, host at WNXP in Nashville. Hey, Celia.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Hi. Longtime listener, even on our station, of this program. Cool to be on with you.

[Celia Gregory]

You guys actually carry this?

[Sheldon Pierce]

We do both weekend days. So, people, it's gonna be a full assault in the mornings. Seven Days of Celia when this airs.

[Celia Gregory]

Well, I was gonna apologize, but since you said Celia instead of All Songs Considered, then that's a good thing.

[Sheldon Pierce]

No, I'm the weekday morning host. But it's gonna be so fun. And of course, I want to hear all from you about these great records that I didn't know about until you put them in front of me. That's why you do this, Right?

[Celia Gregory]

And those great records in this case are all coming out this summer. This is our summer preview. We all brought stuff we're excited about. But I want to start with what I think it's safe to say is one of the most anticipated albums of the year. Wet Leg. The album is called Moisturizer. This is cpr.

[Marissa Nadler]

I tied a rope around my waist to get lost in your eyes I took a breath Jumped off the cliff because you told me to Is it love or suicide? Is it love or suicide? Is it love or suicide? Is it love?

[Celia Gregory]

Is there a cooler band on the planet right now than Wetleg?

[Sheldon Pierce]

I don't think so. Kind of unmatched right now.

[Celia Gregory]

CIA. This is one of your picks. Why don't you tell us why?

[Sheldon Pierce]

When they burst through in 2022, we were all over it at WNXP. We played the heck out of Shays Long. Yeah. So, you know, highly anticipated sophomore release. I'm extra excited to trumpet it because it shows a lot of growth in the band. You still get the sass, right? Like we expect from them. But these are love songs, as Rhiann told me, and they come in all shapes and sizes, including on that one. Cpr.

[Celia Gregory]

I mean, that's the thing. They've led with a couple rippers, you know, the cpr, Catch these Fists, which I think are maybe more like that Shay's long vibe. You're talking about the driving guitars and that thumping bass. But the whole album isn't like this. I mean, there. I mean, I don't know that it ever really quite completely settles down.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Right.

[Celia Gregory]

You know, but it certainly. Some more reflective moments, a little more acoustic guitar.

[Robin Hilton]

I mean, the. The singles do feel a bit like a misdirection. I don't. I don't think. Yeah, they. I mean, there have been love songs from this band before, but not like this. Not quite as settled, as subtle. The thrash of these early songs isn't indicative of what you hear across the record. I do think it's interesting that this is their first record. Sort of like bringing their touring members into the fold as a part of the creative process.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah.

[Robin Hilton]

All three of the members who they tour with have writing credits on this record. And they said that this. It just became something that they wanted to be able to play live and have fun. And as a result of that, they sort of gelled as a group. And I think you can really hear that across this record.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Yeah, agreed. I mean, this is leap in terms of lyrically. It's so there are softer moments. Right. She's saying, you know, it's not like me to be head over heels. It's true. But to have all the band members contribute, as you said, they still maintain this. This fun about them. You know, she was actually telling me that for festival season this year, they asked, you know, to not be back to. Back to back so they could enjoy time together as a band. And so you still hear them having fun and wanting this huge, you know, rise, this meteoric rise to include, you know, fun. But lyrically and musically, this feels like they're settling in a little bit and growing up right before us.

[Celia Gregory]

I'm going to say it. I think Wet Leg is my favorite band right now.

[Robin Hilton]

Wow.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah. And I haven't had a. Like a singular favorite band in a long time, but I just. Everything about them is so perfect. I love the ways that they're pushing against everything, if that makes sense. You know, it's like. I don't know, I was kind of thinking of maybe like the White Stripes, you know, early on, a band that takes a very familiar form and just completely owns it. Totally unique and genuine voice, playful, rockin hard. Everything about it. So moisturizer from Wet Lake is out on July 11th. Where do we want to go from there, Sheldon? What do you got? All your picks. Sheldon, are you're ready to have a totally different summer? I think from everybody else, when I saw what you wanted to play, I.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Thought the same thing.

[Robin Hilton]

I'm going to start off with with the new album from the folk singer songwriter Marissa Nadler. It's called New radiations. It's out August 15th. First record since 2021's the Path of the Clouds. And on this one she's sort of moved in a much more insular direction, but I think the songs are just breathtaking.

[Marissa Nadler]

We're stuck inside the faded screen was a late and post the in between Try to break the glass tile the ending of the sea Set up to ride in a glistening sea get out of the grave and out of hiding Try to wake at last and see nothing.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Within.

[Marissa Nadler]

Psychic sensation. You know, you sound new ra little too o me.

[Celia Gregory]

You called her a folk singer. And when you said that, I thought she's not a folk singer, but I think more of like Chelsea Wolf or something, you know, Like, I can imagine Marissa Nadler just roaring, right? But I guess so, yeah.

[Robin Hilton]

I mean, it seems like folk encompasses a whole world these days. I will say her music isn't always this quiet. Her voice isn't always this hushed. But I think particularly on this record, which she produced herself and recorded in Nashville, primarily at her home studio, is so haunted. You can hear it in the quiet thrush of the guitars on this record. But it's like this sound is this sound across this record, which is a bit of a shift from her last record, which had a feature on nearly every song. This one, she stands alone and her voice is sort of the key to the whole thing.

[Sheldon Pierce]

I mean, absolutely gorgeous. This is an example of an artist where it's like, where have I been? You know, when I looked at this, it's like her ninth or tenth record. I said, what? Because, you know, maybe I'm too much in my bratty Brit rock corner of the world. Right. And this is a good lesson because this. Exactly. This song especially sounds like the kind of album I want to listen to this summer with headphones.

[Celia Gregory]

Are you a hibernator in the summer? Is that your vibe?

[Sheldon Pierce]

I just. I want to get back to listening to full records for my own enjoyment, not for journalism, not for radio picks, but just for side A, side B, you know.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah, I did see there's a cut on this album called Bad Dreams, Summertime. So I think I'm grooving on the same wavelength.

[Robin Hilton]

This is perfect for you, Rob.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah, yeah. But to your point, Celia, I can't believe this is her 10th album. I saw that and I thought, there's no. She hasn't been doing it for that long. It's been like 20 years she's been putting out music.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, still sort of at the peak of her powers right now. I found this one, like, so eerily beautiful. And I just can't get enough of it.

[Celia Gregory]

So New Radiations is the album for Marissa Nadler that is out August 15th. Let's go someplace totally different. Let's go to Super Chunk. Super Chunk is back with a new one, not out until late August. This is a much beloved band. But for people who don't know Super Chunk, they're from Chapel Hill, one of the flagship groups for the mighty merge records. Mac McCallen and Laura Balance, both in Superchunk. They founded Merge Records together initially to put out Super Chunk stuff. And then, of course, they've gone on to release so much groundbreaking, legendary stuff. Neutral Milk, Hotels in the Airplane over the Sea, Arcade Fire's funeral, 69 love songs from the Magnetic Fields. The list goes on and on. So much to love about Super Chunk. But, you know, their sound is very hooky. It's, you know, this great mix of lo fi rock and punk. They've got a lot of wisdom in their songs, I think, but also very funny. And to that point, the new album from Super Chunk is called Songs in the Key of Yikes. Songs in the Key of Yikes. Several singles already out there, but let's go with the one called Everybody Dies.

[Marissa Nadler]

That's impossible. You said. I was just trying to get that song out of my head. You never made me cry and everyone is stupid everyone's at lunch Everything is beautiful and everything just sucks well, I was happy in a world of wishful thinking and ever idolize But I begin to think Everybody Dies Everybody dies so.

[Celia Gregory]

Everybody Dies Written and recorded before a prominent politician reminded us of this fact that everybody dies. I don't think they realized what a moment they were about to hit upon with this song. Quintessential Super Chunk here. I think the drive, the sense of play. And honestly, I listened to this. I think this is a band that is rapidly approaching 40 years of doing this. They started in the late 80s and they sound as vital and urgent and purposeful and I think completely inspired as they ever have. They consistently amaze me.

[Sheldon Pierce]

And consistent was the word I was gonna use. I mean, I cannot believe how. And it's again, to their credit for the formula works. So why steer away from the riffy and the hooky? And it's so. It's great commentary, but it's also just a fun listen. And I think there's this childlike spirit about Max, specifically, and people that know him. I have been told it is true. Like, he. He's still just got this wonderment around making music, and it's gotta have something to do with elevating other artists through Merge, right?

[Celia Gregory]

Like, maybe.

[Sheldon Pierce]

But, you know, being, like, staying forever young in the spirit of music making means that this listen is fun and almost childlike in a way.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, I'm a big fan of a record where you can just hear how much a band loves to play together. And that is this record to a table to the idea of it remaining vital. It just feels like they enjoy being a band so much that they just have to sustain the feeling. And it's funny that this record is really kind of about, like, trying to continue to find that meaning in a certain way, in a certain sense. Like, the first song sets up the central question of the album. Like, is it making you feel something? This idea that, as Max said, everybody is going through something that you may not be aware of. This is currently true more than ever, but also the case that we are going through some things together. And so in the face of that, what is good art and where is happiness found?

[Celia Gregory]

And you know that whole consistency question that you brought up, Celia? I mean, there are bands that are always trying new things and mixing up their sounds. And then there are bands that stay right in their lane for their entire career over the span of decades. And I'm okay with that. And Superchunk is one of those bands.

[Stephen Thompson]

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[Celia Gregory]

All right, a reminder. If you like the show, tell a friend about it. You can send a link to Listen to anyone. It's totally free. Also, leave us a review in Spotify or Apple or wherever you listen to podcasts. And as always, coming up on the show, Stephen Thompson and I continue our look back at the number one songs from across the years on All Songs Considered. This week, we are up to the year 2015. That, plus your weekly reset, all coming up. But Celia Gregory, wnxp, we are back to you. What's next on your short list of summer albums you're excited about?

[Sheldon Pierce]

Yeah, I'm just going chronologically with mine. So how about let's go to July 25th. We get the new one from Indigo D' Souza. She's got a new label home. She's got a little poppier sound. The record's called Precipice. And let's hear the brand new one that we've just gotten. Most recently.

[Marissa Nadler]

It'S just me what's it take to be seen? I swear I really haven't changed.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Took.

[Marissa Nadler]

A whole day to respond and it kills me to move on But I'm feeling you pull away I'm feeling you pull away I still love you like I did at the start Barely surviving I hate being apart I'm crying again Crying over nothing Laying in my bed remembering you.

[Celia Gregory]

And this song from Indigo d' Souza is called Crying Over Nothing. Celia, you said that it's a bit more of a pop sound. I was completely surprised by how much she leans into pop on this record.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Well, and it makes sense once you learn that she went to LA and worked with producer Elliot Cazel, who has produced like Sza and Eve Toomer and even has worked with Phineas. So I'm like, okay, there's the sparkle, right? But you still have what I think is great that she's maintained, of course, is the voice and the sense of voice. What came to mind was Freak Folk. And then I'm like, wait, do I remember what that movement Is. And I like, looked up. Is that true? And I think it's because she makes music in Asheville and she makes music in the mountains. She's still got this folk sensibility to her songwriting. And then paired with the pop hits and the synth lines, it's really working for me because she's staying true to what she's sharing and how much of her heart she's just pouring out. So it doesn't feel too slick. It's pop music, but it's still authentic, if that means something.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, to me, it just really. I mean, I think there's always been a bit of a pop undercurrent to a lot of the stuff she's been doing since at least any shape you take. But to me, it feels like she has really built out that sound in a very purposeful way, in a way that sort of lends itself to the stuff that she was already doing. I mean, I think the songwriting is still there, but I mean, the melodies on this record are just so infectious. I remember hearing Heartthrob and I was like, oh, this is an interesting turn. And then crying over nothing. It's like, oh, she was. She was just teasing where she's headed. Like it moves in such a brighter direction. So beaming, so full of synths and little like buzzy sounds. Oh, yeah. But I do still think she is doing all this while maintaining the very real, very raw emotionality that was at the core of her sound to begin with.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah, I mean, it's totally working for me. The word I kept coming back to while listening to this. And a lot of the stuff that we picked this week is balance. Like, it strikes that perfect balance between sorrow and joy, you know, And I think this happens with a lot of the stuff that we're playing, but you know, where grief can sound like euphoria and joy can sound like sadness. You know, when this song starts off crying over nothing, there are all these little atmospherics in this gentle, sad, but beautiful piano. And then the drop comes in. And you don't have to wait very long for the drop. I mean, it's like 10, 15 seconds or something. But the piano line continues, so it's this great little contrast. Very subtle, but really well done.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Yeah. So artful. I love that you said balance because I agree with that. You know, Heartthrob as a lead single made me think, oh my gosh, another rocker. Let's go. But also because of the content, I thought this is going to be this like trauma fueled ride from Indigo. No, it's Quite hopeful. These are mostly love songs, too much like Wet Leg, and it's honest. But this, of course, it's important to note this precedes the actual trauma of losing so much in the devastation of Hurricane Helene. You know, these songs were already packaged and ready to go. She'd done the LA trip, so this is a love pop record. Even though she's been through so much.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, I mean, Balance feels relevant to that title, to the idea of Precipice, to being right up on the edge. She has talked about saying that life feels like it's always being on the edge of something without knowing what that something is. And that music gave her a way to harness that feeling and a way to push forward in new directions. And I think you hear that.

[Celia Gregory]

Well, great pick, Celia. So Precipice from Indigo de souza is out July 25th. All right, Sheldon, we're back to you.

[Robin Hilton]

I've picked the new record from the experimental Colombian musician Lucretia Dalt. It's called A Danger to ourselves. It's out September 5th. Lucretia Dalt released her last record in 2022 called I. It was a sci fi bolero. I promise you, you don't know what that sounds like. Please go listen to that record. It was one of my favorites of 2022. She's back with something she has said is a bit more grounded, less fictional, based, more in personal experience, but I think it's just as sort of off kilter.

[Marissa Nadler]

You are the only one I can fool this with in this, in this world in this world in this world you had me where light disappear Keep pulling, pulling, drooling, Pulling my tongue Until I am you.

[Celia Gregory]

I think you can listen to this. And if you've listened to any of Lucretia Dalt's earlier stuff, you know that this does sound maybe a little more grounded, like you said, but it's still.

[Robin Hilton]

Teetering, still a little bit strange. I mean, Dalt co produced this record with the English musician David Sylvian, but I think the singles still give you a sense of her core mission. Like, it's a wonky little record. It flits between English and Spanish. It's hushed but powerful, creaky, but yet still a little alien. And even for all its incredible stillness, it has this extreme rhythmic dynamism. There's such subtle shifts across this record on every single song that just make you lean in a little bit and pay close attention.

[Sheldon Pierce]

I was leaning in. I also found myself closing my eyes and swaying. This is not my first listen, but I did it again. Right. It's so dreamy. And I think to reach the. Like you said, with the stillness, she's not rushing. And I love that so much ear.

[Celia Gregory]

Candy, too, going on, just the little snaps and stuff on that track. And, you know, I think one of the things that she does that's so cool, you know, and it's what a lot of my favorite more experimental artists do, is she doesn't fall into the temptation of kind of throwing everything in. Everything is an exercise in restraint. Right. You know, when you get into the whole world of effects and sampling and all the other sonic toys that you have to play with in a studio or even out of the box on a computer, if you're making music at home, the possibilities are literally endless. And the real challenge becomes simply making a choice and sticking to it. And all of her choices are so perfectly executed, I think. Well, we had Lucretia Dahl on the show back in February with the first hot single from this album, Kosarara, which she did with David Sylvia.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah.

[Celia Gregory]

And at that point, we didn't know whether or not a record was coming, but now we do again. It's called A Danger to Ourselves, out September 5th. I've heard the whole thing. I think there's a very good chance this one will be in my top 10 for the year. Well, let's go to a band that I think I've apparently been sleeping on, but people way cooler than I have been listening to and loving for a minute. Sheldon, you're one of them.

[Robin Hilton]

Sorry.

[Celia Gregory]

That's all right. Coco Rocco, a band out of London. I keep seeing them described as a contemporary jazz collective, but is that even. I mean, I don't know.

[Robin Hilton]

Words, man.

[Celia Gregory]

Words. Those are just.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Everything's jazz, baby. It's all jazz.

[Celia Gregory]

Well, they've got a new album coming out called Tough Times Never Last. It is their second, and I want to play it called Three Piece Suit.

[Marissa Nadler]

Breath.

[Celia Gregory]

I mean, contemporary jazz, sure, but I. It's almost like these magical creatures from another dimension listened to jazz and said, we think we can do that. How does it. It sounds kind of like this.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, yeah. They're. They're jazz musicians. I wouldn't say. Like, if you listen to this record and didn't know going in they were identifying as a jazz collective, you might not get that impression at all. Fela Kuti, Afrobeat has always been sort of at the center of their sound, in my opinion. He is a huge influence on everything they do and remains as such, on this record. But you can hear them sort of venturing out into neo soul, into American funk, into lovers Rock on this record, it's so, so expansive, so diverse in sound, so diverse in ideas. And the record is full of sort of mellow music that is very soothing but also has a pretty steady thrust, as we just heard. And I think it's in that propulsion that you can sort of see the album's title best represented the idea that, like, getting through anything means simply moving forward.

[Sheldon Pierce]

I think it's important to me to read like back in the day. They founded this because they felt like they're mission oriented as a group. They said the two founding questions at the forefront of the minds of the members were what would a traditional music sound like coming from London, where there's a massive melting point of cultures, and what would it sound like if it came through our perspective? So they're trying to do justice to where they've come from and also make it sound like something fresh and new that only they could do from where they are now.

[Celia Gregory]

Well, I am way down with the super chill vibe. You know, it's chill, but it's vibrant. You know, there's so much light in this music. It is such a mood lifter. Again, it is called Tough Times Never Last from Coco Roko. It is out July 11th. I was thinking the Kokoroco album and the Super Chunk. One need to kind of get together, kind of work things out. Songs in the key of Yikes and Hey, Tough Times Never Last.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, they're kind of on opposite ends of the spectrum. I feel like they're working towards each other, though.

[Stephen Thompson]

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[Robin Hilton]

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[Celia Gregory]

The reaction was, it can't possibly work like that.

[Stephen Thompson]

That can't possibly be right.

[Robin Hilton]

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[Celia Gregory]

Behind country of origin, what makes, say, a Chinese product Chinese, and how companies.

[Robin Hilton]

Facing tariffs are getting creative.

[Celia Gregory]

From Planet Money on npr, wherever you get your podcasts Well, I know we all have some more stuff that we want to play, but we obviously can't get to everything that we're excited about. So let's just do a quick lightning round here with some of the other things that are coming out in the next few months. Celia, why don't you go?

[Sheldon Pierce]

Yeah. I got a couple quick hits with Nashville Ties. How about that? So first out June 20th on the Third Man Records label is the band Hotline TNT. Their follow up to Cartwheel, which is excellent, is called Raspberry Moon. They just are a great rock band and they have all sorts of different influences that come through. When you see them perform, you're just.

[Celia Gregory]

Getting that one in under the wire. June 20th, first day of summer.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Oh, you're right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Technicality. And then secondly, based right here and made here and now on Nashville label, the Black Keys, on Dan Auerbach's label, Easy I sound. They're coming out with a new album. It feels like they just did. And in August we get no rain, no flowers. I'm just honestly astounded by the output. But the black key is just like a feather in the cap, man. They just are very prolific and they're still making great rock music.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah. You may have heard Lorde is back.

[Celia Gregory]

I did.

[Robin Hilton]

Releasing her first album since 2021, Solar Power. That record is out June 27th. It's called Virgin. Burna Boy has a new record out July 11th. It's called no sign of Weakness. The rap duo Clips is reuniting for their first album in 16 years. It's called let God sort him out. That's also out July 11th. And if you listen to the show, you know I am a recent Lord Huron convert. And they have an album out called The Cosmic Selector, Volume 1 that is out July 18 that I think is really, really great.

[Celia Gregory]

You didn't mention Nourished by time.

[Robin Hilton]

I didn't. If you don't know, you should know. We are big fans of Nourish by time here. And his new record, the Passionate ones is out August 22nd. One of my favorite records of the year. Such a big step up for him. It feels like he really discovered who he is as an artist on this record.

[Celia Gregory]

And I'll just mention a few Frankie Cosmos different talking. That album is coming June 27th. Babymetal's metal fourth is coming June 27th as well. The swell season back after like, what, 15 or more years?

[Sheldon Pierce]

My heart swells.

[Celia Gregory]

They've got a new record coming July 11th. I think it was delayed a little Bit. I think it was supposed to come out in June, but It's coming out July 11th. It's called Forward. Let's see, what else? Oh, Levi's A Matter of time is out August 22nd. And then one more, the Beaches back with a new album called no Hard Feelings that is out on August 29th. Let's see. Celia, we're back to you.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Oh, I'm so excited. Also, that lightning round made me remember just the embarrassment of riches of this year because I already have so many favorite albums of 2025. And then we've just set up for us. It's like, oh, what's gonna take the cake? Like, are we even ready for the rest of the remainder of the year? Oh, no, I'm ready.

[Celia Gregory]

And we're not even halfway done yet.

[Robin Hilton]

That's crazy.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Exactly. Well, I'll tell you what I'm ready for, and that's September, because then we get a new Parcels record. Like you just said, Sheldon, about Lord Huron. I mean, maybe I was late to the Parcels party. I will never leave it. I will never leave the Parcels party now that I'm in it. And really, for me, seeing is believing. I got to see them live in 2022, and I feel like I don't know how I would consume their records if I'd never seen them live. But now I get giddy thinking about experiencing these new songs live. Let's hear a new one from Loved, which comes out in September from the Australian sort of disco dance rock Parcels.

[Marissa Nadler]

You got me feeling like I won't even like it. You got me feeling. You got me feeling like I'm unigned. You got me feeling like I'm wasting time. You got me feeling like I'm unexcited. You got me feeling. You got me feeling like I'm. You got me feeling like I'm outside. You got me feeling like I'm be like you. You got me feeling. You got me feeling you are better when I am I'm not around. If I always let you down. Maybe it's just better if I leave it now. You got me feeling. You got me feeling. You got me feeling.

[Celia Gregory]

If you couldn't figure it out, the name of the song is you got me feeling from Parcel. You're not messing around, Celia. I mean, this is the most unambiguous, uplifting, joyful, euphoric pop that I've heard this year.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Yeah, I'm not having a sad or witchy summer, Sheldon. Sorry. I'm gonna be. I'm gonna be dancing with Parcels. I mean, here's the thing. They are very cool. Even though they're, like, singing these high register. They wear tiny, tiny little pants. They look like they're out of a different generation. But when you're at. When you're at a parcel show, all the wish to be cool just falls away. And I think the repetition here, of course, like you just pointed out, is key. But it's so much fun. I feel like it just is what we need, you know, I don't. I don't need them to rip six solos or have, like these jaw dropping, you know, turns of phrase like some of the poets on the aforementioned, you know, albums. I think they do exactly what I need them to do on this record. And yet they do stretch a bit. I think people are going to be surprised beyond these singles we have so far, how the rest of it sounds.

[Celia Gregory]

I've got a hot take, but I want Sheldon to go first.

[Robin Hilton]

I kind of want to hear this. You can't set it up and not deliver that hot take.

[Celia Gregory]

All right. I think this is the Doobie Brothers. It's got that sunny 70s pop vibe, you know, kind of a funky guitar kind of chugging along through all these songs. I think I hear it in the harmonies. There's. I mean, there's not a hint of Michael McDonald's voice in any of this. But I think the guitars.

[Sheldon Pierce]

I can't unhear it now. I can't unhear it. Dang it.

[Celia Gregory]

I think that's not a bad thing. That is not a bad thing. I think Parcels would take that as a compliment.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, I mean, I think. I think both are just as groove oriented, and I gravitate towards groove oriented music. I think what really works about this specifically, though, is it's so peppy, it's so light.

[Sheldon Pierce]

It just.

[Robin Hilton]

It sort of glides. It. It's hard not to bob your head to it. My understanding is that this is the first record where they sort of went away, took a break, brought back songs that they were individually working on together to make this record, and then recorded it in studios across the world until they finished it. And I'm a big advocate of business by committee as an approach. It feels like they had resounding results. Listening to this record. I mean, I smell lunch. It's like, you go through these songs, it's hard to tell who is singing on which record. They've got a bunch of different vocalists. There isn't really a frontman in this band. I mean, two different guys play guitar. They've got two keyboardists like who? That's good vibes. Like two keyboardists is good vibes. It feels like they really put their utilitarianism to work on this record.

[Sheldon Pierce]

That's a great take, Sheldon, actually.

[Celia Gregory]

What?

[Sheldon Pierce]

In Doobie Brothers season, we've got the hottest takes. We've got the most frigid takes. No one to look forward to on this record is actually quite deep. And it's called Sorry. It's probably my lyrical favorite. But there are softer moments, Right? We already have Safe and Sound, which is so cheeseball, but works. I don't even know. I can't explain it. I can't explain why there's still sex appeal, even though it could be lame.

[Celia Gregory]

Celia, you used the word cheeseball. That's another word I would use to describe the Doobie Brothers. It's like cheeseball, but so joyful and fun to listen to.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, we've. We've got enough bands that take themselves too seriously. We need more bands who are just out here having fun, bringing positivity and good vibes.

[Celia Gregory]

So Parcels, the album, Loved that one. Is out September 12th. Sheldon, you've got one more pick. I know you want to play.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, I think probably the biggest records of the three records that I've brought. It's the new one from the Brooklyn indie folk band Big Thief. It's called Double Infinity, out September 5th. It's their first record as a trio following 2022's Dragon, New Warm Mountain, I Believe in youn. It's not as sprawling as the last one, a little bit more contained. Not as panoramic. Back to their roots, but still moving.

[Marissa Nadler]

Highway 17 Cotton Candy Rain Driving with my lover we missed our plane so we added on the hours to see the loop and flowers Way up past the border we blew through Thunder Bay the pine trees are narrow A billion broken arrows the ravens and the crows Robins and the sparrows all across Ontario. Static on stereo. Ain't swimming in the Lake Old Woman Day.

[Celia Gregory]

You know, you look at the list of albums from Big Thief and Adrian Linker, the lead singer of the band, her solo work, just like in the last 10 years or so, a dozen albums, about a half a dozen eps. There have been some compilations and collaborations, some live albums along the way, tours, and have you ever once thought, okay, guys, just slow your roll here?

[Robin Hilton]

No, never, never, never.

[Celia Gregory]

I mean, in fact, if anything, you're like, keep going.

[Robin Hilton]

Oh, my God, go more. I think one of the definitive stretches of the Big Thief run was in 2019, when they released two albums in six months. UFOF and Two Hands. And this new record moves, as I said, away from the stuff of Dragon. New War Mountain, I Believe in you, which was more Americana and country rock focused, I'd say a bit more expansive. To their longest record by quite a bit. At 80 minutes. This one shrinks again. Only 10 songs, even for all its compactness, is so full of life, so vibrant. There are moments that sound like field recordings as a result of the way that they recorded it. But, I mean, through it all, like, Adrian Lenker is still their anchor, right?

[Sheldon Pierce]

Yeah, I mean, that's. It is really pretty. And I mean, like you said, if Adrian doesn't want to stop writing great songs, who's. Don't. Please don't stop and, you know, like, just put them out and we'll listen. And I think what you said about the two records in 2019, I'd kind of forgotten because then everything was like, forced slowdown. I think Covid gave Big Thief fans, you know, ways to grow and then be, like, just salivating for the output to. So they're really meeting the demand as their fan base grows.

[Celia Gregory]

You might think this is nuts, but I actually think Adrienne Linker may be reaching something like a Dylan level here. When you consider her output, her deep, deep lyricism, just the epic range of her work and creative output. I think, like, I mean, no pressure here, but I think this is something I've actually been thinking for a while with Adrien Linker, but I. Yeah, I don't. I think we're witnessing, like, a legend being made.

[Robin Hilton]

I. I don't think she's missed in eight years, like, since sort of like, reaching a new height in, like, 2018. I think of, like, Abyss Kiss as the moment that it turns in, like, post capacity for Big Thief, that you really start to see her step into her own as a songwriter, as a band leader, as a vocalist.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Yeah. So far we have Dylan and the Doobies referenced on today's show. So welcome to the future. Welcome to the future of radio and of music. Making.

[Celia Gregory]

All of my reference, that's because I haven't been able to form any new memories for, like, 40 years now. So that's the best I can do. So that Big Thief record, Double infinity, out September 5th. Well, let's go out on a discovery artist for me. This is a singer, songwriter named Georgia Harmer. She's from Canada. I really don't know a ton about her, but she had this debut album out in 2022 called Stay In Touch. I completely missed that one when it came out. This new one that she has is called Eye of the Storm. And I was just really captivated by her voice and her lyricism. I found these songs to be just really moving, particularly this opening cut from her new record. It's called Can We Be Still?

[Marissa Nadler]

Home early with the flu. Your parents pick us up from the airport. Home early from school. Your first son will love me like he loves his mama and his middle name. Someone we lose before the age of children. His oldest friend, one of my own Together when we leave them now do you understand? I don't have another plan. Now is the time to say what it is you been dreaming of saying.

[Celia Gregory]

I mean, her voice aside, it's just the imagery in the song that really got me, you know? Home early with the flu, Someone's parents picking you up from the airport. Just the way she invokes sort of those. Those kind of hazy days of early adulthood, late youth, where we're old enough to be independent, but young enough to still have our parents and rely on them. Yeah. And then the ways that she ties the present to the past that are. It's very subtle, but I think very deep. Like, you know, she refers to someone's middle name and how it comes from someone we lose before the age of children. Oh, great stuff.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Yeah. How warm. I mean, the resonance in her voice. I was listening so closely, you know, before the instrumentation really expanded on that. I mean, that's. It's really sparse and gorgeous. I want to hear more.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah. I mean, there's something about this song in particular that reminded me about Malachi, the Uber driver.

[Celia Gregory]

Oh, yeah, yeah, that's.

[Robin Hilton]

It's in that same vein. And why I wasn't surprised that you picked this one as well. There's a similar softness to it. I think the title track is when this record really got its hooks in me. And Hermer has said that that song is about feeling the weight of having to carry someone else's well being on your shoulders, about the feeling of responsibility and hopelessness towards. Toward the problems of someone else's sadness. I feel like that responsibility and embracing that is a theme that continues to play out across this record. To your point, about being at that weird sort of intersection age of still being dependent on somebody else, but trying to find your own way. And I think it has the youthful optimism of that time imbued in those. Those vocals.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Yeah. I was reading that same passage about. It's about emotional labor. I'm like, oh, Lord, is there anything more adult than realizing that that's what you're doing is laboring emotionally for yourself and for those around you. So, you know, you become a caregiver whether you're a parent or not. You become a caregiver of yourself and others. And you're like, am I equipped for this? And I love the idea that that's explored through song.

[Robin Hilton]

It's a record of little epiphanies across the entire thing, just coming to the realization that life hits in these little soft ways.

[Celia Gregory]

And to your point, it's a full record of this stuff. Eye of the Storm from Georgia Harmer. It is out August 15th, and that'll do it for our summer preview of 2025. It all goes by so fast. Celia Gregory, WNXP in Nashville, thanks so much for doing this.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Thank you. Gosh, what a list we have now. And since we all said we're just going to be sitting inside in the ac, not in the southeastern, sweaty outside, unless I'm on the lake, you know, I'm inside listening to these records and air conditioning comfortably. Thank you for exploring all these with.

[Celia Gregory]

Me and Sheldon Pierce. Always a great hang.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, always good to be here, Robin.

[Celia Gregory]

All right, As I mentioned all this spring on All Songs Considered, we've been celebrating our 25th anniversary by looking back at our number one songs from across the years. We are all the way up to the year 2015, and Stephen Thompson back here to talk about our picks from that year. Hey, Stephen.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Hello, Robin.

[Celia Gregory]

So we have clawed our way to the year 2015 in this March through the best songs, the songs that take us back to those years. And if you haven't been following along, just a reminder that these are not the Billboard Hot 100 songs from those years or necessarily even the biggest songs of the year that maybe will take people back. These are songs that define the show.

[Kendrick Lamar]

And that there's absolutely no way to be definitive in summing up any year. Where's the folk music, Robin?

[Celia Gregory]

Where's the I see no mention of band A, but lots of mention of Band B. But what's the first thing that you think of when you think of 2015? And a reminder also that we're not telling each other what the songs are. We're kind of playing Name that Tune.

[Kendrick Lamar]

We're playing a little bit of Name that Tune.

[Celia Gregory]

You're gonna hit it, and then I'm gonna try to guess what it is.

[Kendrick Lamar]

All right, Robin. The first song that jumped to mind when I think of 2015, first of all, pretty good year for music.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Second of all, this opening rift is the first thing that Goes immediately to mind.

[Celia Gregory]

Courtney Barnett.

[Marissa Nadler]

I love you, I hate you I'm on this it all depends whether I'm up or down I'm on the men Transcending on reality I like you, despise you, admire you what are we gonna do when everything all falls through? I must confess I've made a mess of what should be a small success But I digress at least I've tried my very best I guess this, that, the other why even bother? It won't be with me on my deathbed But I'll still be in your head Put me on a pedestal and I'll only disappoint you Tell me I'm exceptional I promise to exploit you.

[Sheldon Pierce]

So.

[Celia Gregory]

The album is like, sometimes I sit.

[Kendrick Lamar]

And think and sometimes I just sit, sit.

[Celia Gregory]

But I'm blanking on the name.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Pedestrian at best.

[Celia Gregory]

Pedestrian at best. Oh, my God, what a great song.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Such a great song. Most inaccurately named song.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Certainly the most inaccurately named song of 2015.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah. Oh, she just came burst out with this album and it just rips.

[Sheldon Pierce]

Yeah.

[Kendrick Lamar]

And part of what's great about it is talk about zigging when people think you're gonna zag. Courtney Barnett came up, you know, she comes out of Australia and her stuff is very conversational. Her songs are these ambles, you know, where she's kind of telling you about how she went out and to the garden and got stung by a bee, whatever, these. These kind of story songs, and then comes out with this album. And it. The immediate thought is like, this is her Smells Like Teen Spirit.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah. Like, that's a great. That's a great example.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Yeah. And. And you know where it's. Where it's just so lyrically dense. It has this build. It slams into the choruses with such. With such grandeur and majesty. I love this. Right? But this particular song was just like, oh, well, I know exactly what I'm kicking off my year end mix with. I know what is basically my favorite song of the year. It's so fun every once in a while when you hear a song and you're like, oh, it's my song of the year. There it is. You don't have to even live with it for more than three minutes to know.

[Celia Gregory]

I remember thinking when she dropped this album, that man guitar rock is back. And, you know, car seat headrests was starting to drop stuff around then, too. That was really popping. Like, I remember. I think, well, it might have been the next year, maybe 2016, when he did the Vincent Drunk Drivers Killer Whales. Those songs all came out. But this. Yeah, this was very high on my list of favorite albums. And this song, too. Pedestrian at best. Great pick. As soon as you hit play on this, I thought, oh, I could have easily picked this one, too. Yeah. But I'm going to go with this song from an album full of songs that I like. Any one of them I could have picked and played and loved, but I'll go with this one.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Okay. Sufjan Stevens Carrying Lowell is the album.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah.

[Marissa Nadler]

Are we to speak first day of the week? Stumbling words at the bar Beauty, Blue eyes, My order of fries, Long Island Kindness and wine but love it Of John.

[Robin Hilton]

I get it all wrong.

[Marissa Nadler]

I read you for some kind of poem.

[Celia Gregory]

All right. If you don't have it now, you're not gonna.

[Kendrick Lamar]

I don't. Yeah.

[Celia Gregory]

Beloved My John. Beloved My John.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Okay. Okay. This record not knocked me flat.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah.

[Kendrick Lamar]

When it came out. It's one of my favorite albums of the year. It's one of my favorite albums he's ever done. Just the intimacy of this record, how deep he's willing to go in this album. And I know he interviewed. You know. You did an interview with him where he kind of rejected this album.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah, in a way.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Yeah, in a way. Like, really, it's clear that he hasn't been able to fully untangle what he was trying to untangle with this record.

[Celia Gregory]

The death of.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Of his mother, you know, from whom he had been, you know, estranged. And the way that he spoke about it was really articulate and really thoughtful, and I really understood how you could come to feel that way where, like, realizing, like, these songs can't speak for her. She's not there to speak for herself. And I think that interview is a really useful way to look at this record as, like, these thoughts are incomplete because they have to be. And what it doesn't do is it just doesn't detract from how beautiful they are and how thoughtful they are and how much love and unmet need are kind of swirling together in these songs. I think this is a breathtaking record.

[Celia Gregory]

You know, I think it's important to note in that conversation I had with Sufjan, a lot of sites picked up. At one point in it, he says, I'm kind of embarrassed by this album. And that became a headline for a lot of other sites that picked it up, but it's so much more complicated than that. It's not that he thinks this is a terrible album or that he did a bad job. You know, the songs are embarrassing. It's because he was trying to get at something that he just couldn't get at. And then he felt bad for trying to even speak for his mom. And it's just way more complicated than that. But it's such a melancholy little song for us to go out on. But before we do it, let's just rattle off a couple other things that we were excited about.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Well, Kendrick La Lamar put out to butterfly, that was 16. And we're trying not to overload Kendrick Lamar because he's got a record coming up that we're absolutely 100% that we absolutely have to talk about. But that was an extremely eye opening record. It was not his first great album, but it's one that really demonstrated the expansiveness of his vision. We could have played King Kunta, which was the pick from your kind of 2016 anniversary show, right?

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah, yeah. I was gonna say King Kunta would be my pick from that. I'd also flag Torres.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Oh my gosh, talk about guitar rock.

[Celia Gregory]

Yeah. Strange hellos came out then. Yeah. That Torres was another reason why I thought, oh my God, guitar rock is back.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Yeah.

[Celia Gregory]

But we'll go out on this from 2015 and until next time, thanks as always, Stephen.

[Kendrick Lamar]

Thank you, Robin.

[Celia Gregory]

And for NPR Music, I'm Robin Hilton. It's All Songs Considered.

[Marissa Nadler]

Speaks the kiss on my cheek, where there remains but a mark, Beloved my John, so I'll carry on.

[Stephen Thompson]

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