The Contenders, Vol. 19: Neko Case, Asher White, caroline, more

Summary

All Songs Considered – “The Contenders, Vol. 19: Neko Case, Asher White, caroline, more”

NPR – September 9, 2025
Host: Robin Hilton
Guest: Dora Levitt (NPR Music team)

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Episode Overview

This episode of “All Songs Considered” explores standout new music releases with NPR Music’s Dora Levitt joining host Robin Hilton. Together, they share recent song obsessions, introduce under-the-radar artists, and discuss what makes certain tracks feel innovative, strange, or emotionally powerful. From shapeshifting art-pop and post-rock to ambient field recordings, the episode highlights the diversity and unpredictability of the current music landscape.

The tone is playful and nerdy, with Robin and Dora exchanging affectionate banter and deep-diving into why the featured music resonates so personally with them.

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Key Discussion Points & Song Highlights

1. Asher White – “Beers With My Name On Them”

[02:31–09:05]

• Why Dora's obsessed: Dora calls it a song she’s “addicted to,” likening its restless momentum to what it feels like "to run around outside" ([07:45], Dora Levitt).
• Robin’s insight: Robin jokes that the song is the “sound of my brain at any given moment” as someone with ADHD ([08:06], Robin Hilton). He marvels at the blend of church bells, techno, and pop-punk: “How much awesome can you cram into one track?” ([07:37], Robin Hilton).
• Artist context: Asher White is described as a multidisciplinary artist and sculptor, someone who “carves space within a song.” The track is from the album 8 Tips for Catastrophe Living.
• Notable quote:

  “It’s so everything all at once, and it just works together and moves and builds off itself. It’s amazing.”
  — Dora Levitt ([08:20])

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2. Neko Case – “Wreck” (from Neon Grey, Midnight Green)

[09:56–15:31]

• Generational perspective: Robin frames Neko Case as a Gen X icon returning after an eight-year solo hiatus. He notes the challenge of remaining visible to new audiences without frequent releases ([10:07]).
• Musical qualities: The track is praised for its “elegance,” “euphoria,” and lyrical wisdom. Strings, sun/fireworks imagery, and swelling arrangements evoke grandeur and vulnerability.
• Lyric highlight: Dora singles out “Do I look like the sun to you, blazing freckles on your face” as “gorgeous” ([14:20]).
• Themes: The song and album dwell on love’s emotional force, friendship, and the shaping nature of relationships.
• Notable quote:

  “Her songs are elegant to me and they’re soaring and euphoric, but also just full of so much wisdom.”
  — Robin Hilton ([13:57])

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3. caroline – “Total Euphoria” (from caroline 2)

[17:39–24:15]

• Comparison to Neko Case: Dora notes a parallel between the emotional builds in both artists’ use of strings.
• Structural oddity: Robin describes feeling like he “accidentally had a couple things, different things playing at the same time” due to the song’s “off balance” and “disjointed” rhythm ([22:22–23:00]).
• Song construction: Multiple rhythmic lines seem to “fight with each other to be first,” yet ultimately cohere ([23:00–24:03]).
• Musical touchstones: The pair compare caroline to The Microphones/Mount Eerie, emphasizing how beauty emerges from chaos.
• Notable quote:

  “The fact that there are all these parts... fighting together, but they do still work together, is kind of where that beauty lies.”
  — Dora Levitt ([24:03])

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4. Sturle Dagsland – “Hugging Horses” (from Dreams and Conjurations)

[24:31–31:33]

• New discovery: Both were unfamiliar with Dagsland, but Dora calls his music “amazing” and “yearning” ([28:48]).
• Vocal uniqueness: Robin checked with the label and confirms there’s “no autotune or anything on this... this is 100% his voice”—regularly veering into extremes ([28:56]).
• Comparisons: They hear echoes of FKA twigs, Björk, Kate Bush, Grimes, and The Knife ([29:39–29:50]).
• The ‘horse band’ trend: Robin lists a surprising number of contemporary bands featuring 'horse' in their name, joking about a potential “horses news” segment ([30:55–31:31]).
• Notable quote:

  “His voice almost sounds like yodeling or something, which I never would think—oh, yodeling, let’s put it on... But it is just so transfixing.”
  — Robin Hilton ([29:56–30:11])

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5. Model/Actriz – “Doves” (from Pirouette)

[33:00–39:52]

• Dora’s taste: Affectionately declares, “there’s nothing I love more than... a monotonous drone,” and argues nobody does this better than Model/Actriz on their latest album ([33:00]).
• Sound and lyrics: Robin is struck by the “relentless rhythmic drone,” likening its drive to early LCD Soundsystem but with a “whole universe” built around it ([38:05]).
• Live experience: Dora enthuses about the band’s “best concert I’ve ever seen,” recounting how the lead singer’s performance style (inspired by burlesque and dance) blurs the line between performer and crowd ([39:00–39:40]).
• Lyrical tension: The song interweaves delicate poetic imagery with abrasive sound, grappling with themes of queerness and the divine feminine.
• Notable quote:

  “They balance the delicate and precious lyrics and ideas with these huge mechanical sounds, which is awesome.”
  — Dora Levitt ([37:39])

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6. Early Fern – “Teasel” (from Wetland Interiors)

[40:09–41:48]

• Ambient turn: Robin introduces this as “completely different from everything else”—an ambient, field-recording-rich composition inspired by wetlands in upstate New York ([40:42]).
• Personal nostalgia: Dora, having lived in the Hudson Valley, associates the track’s soundscape with “wandering around in beautiful nature” ([40:24]).
• Purposeful calm: The song is positioned as a “hauntingly beautiful” mood piece that promises escape or reset.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On ADHD and Asher White’s song:

  "I wanna just play this song [for my wife] and say, this is actually what it’s like. This is the sound of my brain at any given moment."
  — Robin Hilton ([08:06])

• On appreciating Neko Case’s lyricism:

  “That line, 'Do I look like the sun to you? Blazing freckles on your face,' that’s gorgeous.”
  — Dora Levitt ([14:20])

• On caroline’s chaotic beauty:

  “The first time I listened to this, I thought I accidentally had a couple different things playing at the same time.... But this is the song!”
  — Robin Hilton ([22:22])

• On attending Model/Actriz shows:

  “He sings in your face the entire time and it’s awesome.”
  — Dora Levitt ([39:40])

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Asher White – "Beers With My Name On Them": [02:31–09:05]
• Neko Case – "Wreck": [09:56–15:31]
• caroline – "Total Euphoria": [17:39–24:15]
• Sturle Dagsland – "Hugging Horses": [24:31–31:33]
• Model/Actriz – "Doves": [33:00–39:52]
• Early Fern – "Teasel": [40:09–41:48]

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Tone and Flow

The conversation is warm, occasionally self-deprecating, full of genuine musical passion, and sprinkled with in-jokes and quirks of NPR’s long family of music lovers. Both hosts share deeply personal responses to the music, blending emotional honesty with playful teasing and allusions to their own life experiences.

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Closing Thoughts

This episode serves as a musical treasure hunt, surfacing gems from vastly different genres and scenes, with Robin and Dora’s chemistry making their discoveries feel inviting and infectious. Their perspectives on music and life are threaded through each segment, making even the strangest or most experimental tracks feel accessible and emotionally resonant.

If you missed the episode, this summary delivers a curated guide to the artists, themes, and takeaways—ideal for music nerds seeking their next obsession.

Transcript

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[Dora Levitt]

I'm a little bit nervous.

[Robin Hilton]

You're a little nervous? You should be.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah, I am.

[Robin Hilton]

This could kind of make or break your entire career.

[Dora Levitt]

I know. That's what I'm feeling. And all I do all the time is listen to podcasts. That's like liter all I do. And they're all comedy podcasts. And I feel like they're my best friends. So I'm like, hmm, I wonder who's gonna want to be my friend after listening to this.

[Robin Hilton]

Oh, Dora, I don't know. Let's just try to get through the show. Well, it's all songs considered, NPR's long running discovery and Serious Music Nerdom podcast. I'm Robin Hilton, and I'm here with one of the coolest people I know and one of my favorite humans. Well, at least on the NPR music team, it's true. I think you're super cool. Dora Levitt is here. How long have you been at NPR?

[Dora Levitt]

Since January.

[Robin Hilton]

Just this January.

[Dora Levitt]

So, yeah, January 6th was my first day.

[Robin Hilton]

And you weren't an intern or anything, were you? You started like, as a contest with the contest, The Tiny Desk contest.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah.

[Robin Hilton]

Did you know that we used to have a really robust internship program?

[Dora Levitt]

I did, because every single person I asked how they started at npr, they said, oh, I was an intern or I was a fellow.

[Robin Hilton]

There was a time All Songs Considered had its own intern. We had three a year. And I was thinking, you know those earliest interns we had, the very first ones, they're pushing their 50s now. Dora.

[Dora Levitt]

No, seriously.

[Robin Hilton]

So let's think about it. If you do the math, the show's 25 years old. The first interns we had were, let's say, in their early to mid-20s. Wow, 25 years. They're in the late 40s now. You know, some of them have probably had hip replacements. Yeah, something like that, yeah. Oh, God. Really? Well, Dora, kidding aside, I've wanted to have you on the show for a long time because one of the things that I clocked very early on with you is I totally vibe with the music that you love. Thank you. Our tastes in music really overlap really well, and you're always turning me on to really great stuff. So what do you want to start with?

[Dora Levitt]

I want to start with a song that I'm actually addicted to. And it's all that I talk about and it's beers with my name on them by Asher White.

[Sam (Song Vocalist)]

There's a surprise right in the. In the forest. All right. The f. Another person and I did the dishes I do not shake my lights and I wait for you to come home. You deserve to be paid. Who sat alone on phone Just went hard at the stage the casino counting cards the business spins eternal food away. You hear everybody say this far is about your nightmare now you wake up all the way home tonight. Sam. It's. It's. It's Sam. Sa. Sam.

[Robin Hilton]

That song is like a study in. How much awesome can you cram into one track, right? Incredible.

[Dora Levitt]

It just never stops moving forward. I first listened to it and my jaw was on the floor, and then I texted basically everybody that I know, right? And I was like, have you listened to this song? It feels like what it is to run around outside.

[Robin Hilton]

I thought you were gonna say what it feels like to have adhd, which I do have adhd.

[Dora Levitt]

I love that.

[Robin Hilton]

And, you know, my wife could not be more opposite, and she just doesn't get it. And I try to explain it to her, and it's like, I wanna just play this song and say, this is actually what it's like. This is the sound of my brain at any given moment.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah. The church bells, organ that come in with the techno and the pop punk. It's so everything all at once and. And also just works together and moves and builds off itself. It's amazing.

[Robin Hilton]

There's also that really cool breakdown about halfway where it's actually, I think, the first real significant shift that the song takes. And there's this little sort of jazzy hi hat or something. Hint of it. You're like, all right, well, wait a minute, where is this going? And then it just gets wilder and wilder and it's so restless and twitchy and. Oh, incredible.

[Dora Levitt]

Completely.

[Robin Hilton]

So tell us about Asher White.

[Dora Levitt]

She's an artist, she's a writer. She's a sculptor as well, which I thought you can kind of really see with this song because it is really built out and kind of carving space within itself with all of the different breaks and how you do get, like, the jazzy bits that kind of allude to the beginning. More pop rock section, but still is this really heavy techno.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah. So the album this is from is called 8 Tips for Catastrophe Living. I mean, just the. That title alone is enough to get me interested. And then you've got a song called Beers with my name on them. Also, more than enough to get me interested in it. But then, what a payoff. Wow. Asher White. Very good. Are you a Nico Case fan? Are you?

[Dora Levitt]

I can't say that I am. I mean, I know who Nico Case is, and her name kind of just swirls around in my algorithms, but I've never really spent the time listening.

[Robin Hilton]

So I think of her very much as a Gen X artist. She's just as relevant now as ever and still making great music. But, you know, she can go a very long time between albums. Her last one was eight years ago. And I think that once you start bumping up against a decade or so, you know, letting nearly a decade pass without putting anything out, you're. You're like halfway to an entire generation that maybe hasn't even heard you. But Nico Case is back now with a new solo album. Like I said, it's her first in eight years. She had to do a couple of new Pornographers albums in between, so she's been busy. But man, this new solo album, it has totally knocked me out. It's called Neon Grey, Midnight Green and I want to play this cut from it called Wreck.

[Sam (Song Vocalist)]

Calm down darling don't take me to war Please come back soon Sooner than you want to it's the only thing in this whole world that would please me I know you're selfish but you're the sun now and it's a big job One you did not fly for but maybe you want this too I look like the sun to I blaze freckles on your face I'm a meteor shattering around you and I'm sorry.

[Dora Levitt]

But.

[Sam (Song Vocalist)]

I've become a solar system since I found you Eruption possibilities of volatility of stars My clothes can hold together and I know I can't find this breakthrough so just stay to the end of the fireworks show there's no way to know what could happen but it's going you and me and I can live aside Whether or not you need so please don't be afraid of me oh my love so please don't be afraid of me oh my love Sam.

[Robin Hilton]

Nico Case just popping up here to remind us that she is one of our all time great songwriters. I think she just does, I don't know elegance so well. Her songs are elegant to me and they're soaring and euphoric, but also just full of so much wisdom. I don't know. These are all things that she does, I think better than most.

[Dora Levitt]

Completely. That line, do I look like the sun to you? Blazing freckles on your face. That's gorgeous. And the swell at the beginning that it strings. Right.

[Robin Hilton]

It's like chaotic.

[Dora Levitt]

I actually wrote down, I was like, now that got my attention, right? I got the, those strings are amazing. And the strings with the talk of the sun and meteors and fireworks, it's all just so, so grand.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah. I think the music lands so well just on its own, but also thematically. I really love what she's talking about on this song and really across the whole record, which is it's really just about love and the love you have for your friends and the people who come into your life and help shape you and make you who you are. Losing those friends over time, it's so.

[Dora Levitt]

Beautiful and it really does make you remember how big of a feeling love is. And because the song is so huge, it makes you realize how powerful that feeling is.

[Robin Hilton]

This whole record I think is so good. From Nico Case, Neon Grey, Midnight Green. It is out September 26th.

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[Robin Hilton]

Got some more music that we want to play, plus your weekly reset coming at the end of the show. So be sure to keep listening for that. Also, if you want to support NPR and All Songs considered, just tell a friend about the show, share it with somebody, and leave us a review on Apple or Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. All right, Dora, what else are you loving this week?

[Dora Levitt]

You know, those strings in that Nico case song really reminded me of another song that came out this year with the same build of strings and guitar. It's called Total Euphoria by Caroline off of their sequel, Caroline 2.

[Sam (Song Vocalist)]

Sam. Did we ever talk about. Did we ever talk about. Did we ever talk about. Did we ever talk about how you left them if you like that? Did we ever talk about. Did we ever talk about. Did we ever talk about? Did we ever talk about.

[Robin Hilton]

Way weirder than the Nico case, But I hear that euphoria that you're talking about. I love how off balance everything is.

[Dora Levitt]

Right.

[Robin Hilton]

And so disjointed. Honestly, the first time I listened to this, I thought I accidentally had had a couple things, different things playing at the same time. I kept stopping, like, oh, did I? Is something playing on YouTube the same time I'm playing this on my computer? Oh, no, this is the song. And then there was another moment, you know, where it just suddenly goes really, really gritty. There's that.

[Dora Levitt]

Totally. It sounds like all of the different pieces of the song are kind of like fighting with each other to try and be first.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah.

[Robin Hilton]

So have you ever seen Caroline live? I'm wondering if you saw them do this live by chance.

[Dora Levitt]

I wish.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah. I asked because I think this would be a really hard song to pull off live, because I'm counting maybe four different rhythms going on. There are, like, two different guitars doing different things. There's the vocals doing its own thing, and then the drums are totally doing its own thing.

[Sam (Song Vocalist)]

Yeah.

[Dora Levitt]

Something that I. I really love about this song is how sparse the lyrics are and how they repeat with the rhythmic guitar and the drums. And I think it just. It builds so beautifully.

[Robin Hilton]

You know what this actually reminded me of? Do you listen to the microphones or Mount Erie? Do you?

[Dora Levitt]

The microphones? Yeah.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah. And they're both Phil Elfram projects. Maybe something about the vocals, the way they sort of float and all that chaos. And also, I think the contrast, that there's this sense of beauty in all of that chaos. Do you hear that? You know what I'm talking about?

[Dora Levitt]

I really do. I think the fact that there are all of these parts, like, we were talking about fighting together, but they do still work together, is kind of where that beauty Lies.

[Robin Hilton]

Good stuff. So that's from the album Caroline 2, which, if you couldn't figure it out, was the band's second album, and that is already out. Came out in the spring. Well, I want to play what is a new discovery for me and I think maybe a discovery for you as well. Sterl Dagsland.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah. I'd never heard of Sturl Dagsland and I love him.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah. Incredible. An artist from Norway. One of the most remarkable voices I've ever heard. I mean, for real. I'm not just throwing that out there. This is not hyperbole.

[Dora Levitt]

I completely agree with you.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah. The music is very strange, but incredibly powerful. I think he's about to release a new album called Dreams and Conjurations. And this is a cut from it called Hugging Horses.

[Sam (Song Vocalist)]

Let Sam. It's without Sam.

[Robin Hilton]

Incredible, right?

[Dora Levitt]

Amazing. The word that immediately came to me when I listened to the song was just yearning. I was like, there's so much yearning in the song.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, definitely an ache for something. I don't know what exactly, but can't understand. So I wrote to his publicist and asked, you know, so is there any auto tune or anything on this? And they said, no, this 100%. His voice, he. And he can get incredibly low too. So his range, his vocal range is just off the charts. I mean, it's incredible. Like, you listen to the very opening of that song. It sounds to me like the only way you could do it is with autotune. But that's his natural false.

[Dora Levitt]

I hear some, like, FKA twigs in there. Definitely Bjork a lot.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah. Kate Bush, I think Kate Bush.

[Dora Levitt]

A little bit of Grimes, too.

[Robin Hilton]

Oh, yeah, Grimes. I was thinking the Knife.

[Dora Levitt]

Oh, my God.

[Robin Hilton]

Was a good reference point. Like, if you really like them, I think you would love this.

[Dora Levitt]

I do, yeah.

[Robin Hilton]

Very strange, some of this stuff. You know, his voice almost sounds like yodeling or something, which I never would think. Oh, yodeling. Let's put it on. Come on, crank it up.

[Dora Levitt]

Speak for yourself.

[Robin Hilton]

But it is just so transfixing. And there's something in it that just really gets the blood going too completely.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah. Even the title, Hugging Horses. I feel like I do hear a gallop in there a little bit. Yeah. It's amazing.

[Robin Hilton]

Horses having a real moment right now. Have you noticed this?

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah, I know we've talked about this.

[Robin Hilton]

I'm.

[Dora Levitt]

All of my favorite bands recently have been horse related.

[Robin Hilton]

So there's Horse Vision, also a duo from Sweden. There's Feeble Little Horse, which I've played on the show Feeble Little Horse is great. I love Feeble Little Horse. I just went through my emails. It's just like, what notes have I gotten from bands? Lucky Horse, Red Horse Lords. I'm not making this up, Dora. Iron Horse, Horse Jumper of Love.

[Dora Levitt]

I was about to say Horse Jumper of Love.

[Robin Hilton]

Do you like Horse Jumper of Love?

[Dora Levitt]

You know, I haven't listened to much of Horse Jumper of Love Mouthful, but I keep seeing them everywhere and I keep being like, wow, I need to send this to Robin. A new horse.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, we should do. There's also Sugar Horse, the band Sugar Horse. There was a music festival in the UK this year called Acid Horse. Not to mention the Cleo Reed song, Always the Horse, Never the Jockey and the Heart Attack man song. Joy Rob Ride the Pale Horse. We could do probably hours just on horses news. You can use Dora.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah, Horses Everywhere.

[Robin Hilton]

So sterile. Dagsland is the artist again and he makes music as a duo with his brother. Just the two of them. Best I can tell, they've been doing this for a long time, like more than a decade now. But this is just their second album, Dreams and Conjurations. It is coming out October 10th.

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[Robin Hilton]

All right, we still have your weekly reset coming up at the end of the show, so keep listening for that. But Dora, I know you've got another cut you want to play.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah, so as you can probably tell, there's nothing I love more than, and I say this lovingly, a monotonous drone. And I don't think anyone does a monotonous drone like Model Actress, especially in their newest album Pirouette that came out earlier this year. And my favorite song is Doves.

[Sam (Song Vocalist)]

With winds like water in the light Shake oceans from the painted glass Beer these doubts oh, you're arrival I feel the wet I pose I bow for candles I lit for myself I arch my back I spread my arms I make a rapture out of swan floor to bells Bring down the sun in your mouth Melt the angels I drive my nails on black and stone I scratch my name in crooked roses Drinks sweat for wax and tears for smoke I make a rapture out of sa Gamble. Sam.

[Robin Hilton]

You said monotonous drone. I was thinking of something maybe more ambient sounding, but, like, it's a rhythmic drone that just keeps hammering the song.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah, it's almost abrasive, but because of all of the beautiful, almost delicate imagery that the lead singer, Cole, is talking about, they really do balance the delicate and precious lyrics and ideas with these huge mechanical sounds, which is awesome.

[Robin Hilton]

I was thinking Radiohead. You must be a Radiohead fan.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah, totally.

[Robin Hilton]

Especially towards the end there. But also, you know, we've been looking back at the past 25 years of music played on All Songs Considered. We're up to the period of the early to mid mid 2000s or so. You know, 4, 5, 6, around then. This feels like something that we could have been talking about from that time. It reminds me a little bit of what LCD sound system was doing around then, you know, where it has this almost relentless beat like that, just rattling through the whole song. But then this whole universe is built up around it.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah, it's religious a little bit. And then the image of a dove is, of course, like peace and also feminine, which is a lot of what I feel like this album as a whole talks about is grappling with the divine feminine and queerness in general, which I think is so powerful.

[Robin Hilton]

So how did you come to this band? Is this like a college discovery or something? Or do you remember even how you found them?

[Dora Levitt]

So they host a annual Christmaka show, Chrisma Holiday, Chrismica show, and. And model actresses. They're from Brooklyn. This is their second album, and they put on the best concert I've ever seen in my entire life.

[Robin Hilton]

Wow.

[Dora Levitt]

Yes. The lead singer, Cole, really inspired by burlesque and just dance culture, has a very, very long microphone cord and just wanders throughout the crowd. And of course, the crowd just parts and everyone works together to hold the microphone cord. He sings in your face the entire time and it's awesome.

[Robin Hilton]

Was he ever up in your face when you were? All the time so you managed to position yourself.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah, and I felt totally blessed. I was like, oh, my God, it's happening to me. I'm chosen. It's like a cult, for sure.

[Robin Hilton]

You can stay. You can go.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah.

[Robin Hilton]

Super cool cut from Them Doves from the album Pirouette and Model Actress. I want to take us out on something completely different from everything that you've been playing and really, I guess everything I've been playing as well. This is from an artist that goes by the name Early Fearne.

[Dora Levitt]

You know, I'd never heard of Early Fearne, but this song is so hauntingly beautiful that the first time I listened to it, I had to listen to it again to kind of figure out what exactly happened.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah.

[Dora Levitt]

And I was reading a little bit about Early Fearne and. And they were talking about making music in the mid New York Hudson Valley region, which I just lived there for a few years in college. And listening to it again, it so felt like wandering around in beautiful nature. I don't know if you felt that way.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, I mean, it's very beautiful. Ambient music, found sound music. It's from a record that Early Fern has coming out called Wetland Interiors, inspired by the wetlands of central New York State, which I didn't even know there were wetlands in New York, apparently.

[Dora Levitt]

Apparently. You know, I didn't really know that either.

[Robin Hilton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And this song is called Teasel, which I guess is a kind of plant that grows in wetlands. But. Yeah. Just close your eyes here, Let this one take you away. And maybe you won't even need the weekly reset we have coming after it.

[Dora Levitt]

Yeah, you'll just fall asleep.

[Robin Hilton]

Thanks so much, Dora. Let's do this again.

[Dora Levitt]

I would love to. Thanks for having me, Ravi.

[Robin Hilton]

All right. And keep listening for your weekly reset after this Early Fern the song Teasel. For NPR Music, I'm Robin Hilton. It's all songs considered.

[Sam (Song Vocalist)]

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