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Featuring Frank Chang, VP of Applied Science at Uber and Immediate Past President of the CAS Board

The growth set. What’s changing in the actuarial profession — and how do we flex the right muscles to grow?

In this episode of Almost Nowhere, Frank Chang joins Alicia Burke, Max Martinelli, and Josh Meyers live from the 2025 CAS Spring Meeting to talk about:

How actuaries are solving non-traditional problems at companies like Uber and Google
What needs to change in how we train, credential, and promote actuarial talent
Why judgment is the irreplaceable skill in the age of AI
And whether it’s finally time to bring Max back into the credentialing fold

You’ll also hear a debate about global AI adoption, a vision for modernizing actuarial work, and yes — a brief segment on everyone’s bench press max.

This episode is about finding balance: technical and human, tradition and innovation, strength and judgment.

Frank Chang - The Growth Set

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