Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

Today’s episode is with someone who has successfully built a wealth solutions business tailored to her firm’s unique strengths, expertise, and investment track record.

Martina Sanow is a Partner at Hg and Head of Hg Wealth, where she is focused on building the firm’s wealth solutions offering built out of the $85B AUM firm, Hg, that invests in enterprise software.

Hg, one of the top 10 largest PE firms globally based on the PEI 300 ranking, has built an impressive investment engine focused mission-critical enterprise software companies. The firm has built a portfolio that is a “transatlantic ecosystem of software and services businesses” — representing over $180B in collective enterprise value across its 55 portfolio companies.

Martina has been at the firm for almost 16 years. She has been an integral part of building the firm into what it is today, helping Hg grow from $2B in AUM to $85B in AUM, previously as Deputy COO and now building the Hg Wealth business. Hg’s first wealth offering, Fusion, its flagship evergreen fund that provides access to non-US investors to Hg’s private equity funds and co-investment opportunities, has exceeded $1B in NAV just 12 months after its launch.

Martina is thoughtful, strategic, and long-term oriented when it comes to building a solution that amplifies Hg’s strengths and resonates with the wealth channel.

We had a fascinating discussion about how a scaled specialist like Hg can stand out in the wealth channel, unpacking the essence of who Hg is as a firm and how they’ve expressed who they are as they’ve built their wealth business.

We covered:

* Hg’s evolution as a firm.

* Why Hg focuses on mission-critical enterprise software companies and why it’s a compelling investment thesis.

* Building a wealth business that fits the mission, ethos, and strategy of the firm.

* Understanding the complexity of evergreen funds.

* How Martina and team think about managing dealflow and investor demand in their Fusion fund.

* Learnings applied from HgTrust, the publicly listed UK investment trust, to figuring out how to educate and build brand in the wealth channel.

* Why does ownership structure matter when it comes to building a wealth business? How being privately owned informs how Hg builds their wealth business.

* Why Europe, why now?

Thanks Martina for coming on the show to share your wisdom and expertise at the intersection of enterprise software, private equity, and private wealth.

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Clip #1: Software is not a sector anymore. What’s the investment thesis for software investing?

Clip #2: What are mission-critical software businesses and what do you look for in those businesses?

Clip #3: Why and how to build a wealth business?

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Show Notes

00:00 Introduction and Message from Ultimus, our Sponsor

01:18 Podcast Opening Theme

01:55 Introduction to Today's Guest: Martina Sanow

04:48 Martina's Journey at Hg: Detailed Discussion

04:55 Hg's Growth and Specialization

05:20 Hg's Entrepreneurial Culture

06:15 Building a Wealth Business Aligned with Hg's Culture

07:22 Importance of Cognitive Diversity

07:48 Building a Diverse and Effective Team

13:21 Hg's Entrepreneurial Culture and Learning

14:34 Specialization in B2B Software

15:01 Focus on Mission Critical Software

17:59 Hg's Investment Criteria

20:14 Case Study: Visma

21:49 Investing in Europe: Challenges and Opportunities

30:10 Hg's Wealth Business Strategy

38:02 Balancing Demand and Deal Flow

38:15 Investment Team Orientation

38:33 Fund Strategies and Co-Investments

39:11 Managing Quarterly Subscriptions

39:40 Growth and NAV Management

40:19 Balancing Wealth and Institutional Demand

40:33 Privately Owned Firm Benefits

41:20 Realization Committee and Evergreen Structure

44:11 Liquidity Management Challenges

47:41 Institutional Investors Adopting Evergreens

49:16 Retail vs. Wealth Investors

50:51 Listed Trust and Wealth Business

52:14 Building the Wealth Business

54:10 Strategic Importance of Wealth Capital

56:45 Innovation and Partnerships in Wealth Space

01:00:29 Brand Building and Education

01:02:29 Software as a Core Investment

01:04:47 Community and Founder Investments

01:07:26 Software Summit and AI Immersion

01:08:20 Value Creation and Network

01:09:16 Portfolio Synergies and Acquisitions

01:10:37 Future of Wealth Business

01:11:11 Favorite Investment: Fusion

01:12:05 Investing Alongside Clients

01:12:59 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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