Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.

The Goldman Sachs Alternatives Summit “convened leaders across finance, geopolitics, technology, and culture” to discuss themes driving global markets.

2025’s Alternatives Summit was about “navigating a world in flux,” as the firm’s recap of its event noted.

The event aimed to help investors cut through the noise and put together the pieces of the puzzle in a dynamic and increasingly complex world.

Alt Goes Mainstream joined the event to have unscripted conversations with Goldman Sachs Alternatives leaders to cut through the noise by unpacking key themes and trends at the intersection of private markets and private wealth.

In this special series, we went behind the scenes and interviewed six Goldman Sachs Alternatives leaders about their current thinking on private markets and how the firm has built and evolved its private markets capabilities.

This conversation was with Jeff Fine, Partner, Global Co-Head of Alternatives Capital Formation within Goldman Sachs Asset Management, with responsibility for capital raising, product strategy, research and investor relations across private equity, private credit, real assets, secondaries, GP stakes and hedge funds/liquid alternatives.

Jeff is a member of the Real Estate Investment Committee and Urban Investment Group Investment Committee. Jeffrey is also on the boards of GS Real Estate Investment Trust and GS Real Estate Finance Trust. Previously, he was Global Head of Real Estate Client Solutions for Goldman Sachs Asset Management and a senior real estate investor in the Merchant Banking Division for more than 20 years. Jeffrey joined Goldman Sachs in 2002 in the Merchant Banking Division as an Analyst. He was named Managing Director in 2012 and Partner in 2018. Jeff is Chairman of the Dyson School Advisory Council and a member of the SC Johnson College of Business Leadership Council at Cornell University. He is a member of the Cornell Endowment’s Risk, Liquidity, and Operations Subcommittee and the Board of Directors of the Pension Real Estate Association Foundation. Jeffrey is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the Met Council at the Brookings Institution.

Jeff and I had a fascinating conversation about the intersection of private markets and private wealth, fundraising trends, and the growing role of insurers and the wealth channel in private markets capital formation. We covered:

The evolving private markets landscape.

The important role of the product specialist.

The impact of AI on investing and what it means for private markets.

What it takes to be a great investor.

The importance of the value creation process in driving investment value.

The future of capital formation in private markets.

Thanks Jeff for sharing your wisdom, expertise, and passion about private markets and private wealth.

Show Notes

01:12 Welcome to the Alt Goes Mainstream Podcast

02:20 Jeff Fine’s Background and Career Journey

03:49 The Evolving Private Markets Landscape

05:29 The Role of Product Specialists in Wealth Channels

06:31 Blurring Lines Between Sales and Investment

07:52 Balancing Investment and Client Needs

08:06 The Importance of Resourcing and Talent

08:53 Challenges in the Fundraising Environment

11:03 Balancing Investment and Client Needs

13:17 Transparency and Client Communication

14:00 The Future of Private Markets and Capital Formation

14:21 Growth in Private Markets

19:20 Global Capital and Diversification

21:33 Smart Allocation in Private Markets

23:06 Private Credit as a Yield Instrument

23:59 The Role of Insurance in Private Markets

26:51 Customization and Scale in Private Markets

28:31 Balancing Customization and Operational Efficiency

31:34 Trends in LP Relationships

33:19 Strategic Partnerships and Cost Efficiency

34:21 Concerns About Market Valuations

35:41 Belief in Future Growth

37:16 The Importance of Scale

37:48 Advice for LPs in the Current Market

39:31 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Editing and post-production work for this episode was provided by The Podcast Consultant.

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