She Started A Debate On Racism That She Wasn’t Ready For.

Summary

Podcast Summary: Amala Ekpunobi – "She Started A Debate On Racism That She Wasn’t Ready For" (August 13, 2026)

Main Theme & Purpose

In this episode, Amala Ekpunobi delves into a viral debate between Warren Smith, a former teacher-turned-commentator, and a self-identified "woke" reporter who argues that "you can't be racist against white people." The discussion centers on modern definitions of racism, the conflation of equality and equity, and the impact and logic of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) policies. Amala uses this exchange to dissect and challenge contemporary progressive narratives, sharing her own past experiences with similar views.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Can You Be Racist Against White People?

Initial Assertion (00:00, 01:05, 15:12):

• The "Woke Reporter" argues, "You can't be racist against white people. You can be prejudiced against white people. Racism implies a power imbalance."
• Warren Smith challenges, "Where'd you learn that?" prompting debate over the origins and logic behind this definition.

Amala’s Reflection (01:12):

• Shares her past as a staunch leftist who once adamantly believed racism against white people was impossible due to "systemic power" beliefs, stating:

  "I stood ten toes down on the idea that you could not be racist towards White people, because it has to be systemic in nature and white people are in power and they have so much privilege that it's impossible to be racist towards them."

Memorable Moment (02:35):

• The reporter quickly backs away: "I really don't want to."
• Commentary: "This girl's a reporter. She shouldn't be able to report. There's no integrity in a statement like this... and is now landing on 'that's just how it is.'"

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2. Defining DEI, Equality vs. Equity

Logical Dissection (03:00 onward):

• Warren sets the stage for the DEI debate and tries to parse differences between equality (equal opportunity) and equity (equal outcome).
• Key exchange:
  • Warren: "But equity is equal outcome." (03:50)
  • Reporter: "We should be fighting for equal and equity." (03:57)
  • Commentary (04:01): "You can't do both."

Example Used (04:45):

• Warren uses a hypothetical: "If there's not enough of a specific skin color in the fire department, how do we fix that without being racist?"
• The reporter links DEI to outreach/advertising, but Warren presses for clarification beyond marketing.

Amala Commentary (05:21 & 07:03):

• Highlights how DEI advocates often resort to broad, non-specific terms about “opening doors” and “making people feel welcome,” missing the operational reality of DEI policies:

  "You're not actually facing the very thing that you're advocating for, because that's not what DEI is."

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3. DEI in Practice: Standards and Outcomes

On Standards and Training (07:53):

• Reporter: "By making sure the standards are the same... that has nothing to do... DEI has nothing to do with standards."
• Warren: "That's just basic hiring. Right. That's my point is it's not DEI."

Continued Clarification (08:30):

• Warren asserts that equality (equal opportunity) has largely been achieved and that what’s debated as equity is actually controlling outcomes, inherently discriminatory.
• Amala: Many leftists conflate equity (outcome control) and equality (opportunity) without understanding the difference.

Socioeconomic vs. Race-Based Equity (12:01):

• Reporter attempts to pivot: "Not everyone can afford the application fee... loans, etc."
• Warren clarifies: Scholarships based on socioeconomic status make more sense, but DEI commonly applies race instead.

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4. Recurring Loops & Avoided Logic

Circular Reasoning (12:56 – 14:51):

• Reporter alternates between rejecting race as a primary grouping and advocating for overcorrection based on race to fix past injustices.
• Commentary:

  "This is the never ending loop that you will end up in with a leftist... You can go through mental gymnastics all day long in this framework to get back there again."

Reporter (13:38):

• "The whole point... is to level that. It's to make it so we get to a point where those groups don't matter. But right now for bad people, they matter. So we have to overcorrect."

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5. Power Imbalances, Privilege, and Definitions

Origin of “You Can’t Be Racist Against White People” (15:12, 16:52):

• The reporter’s view hinges on power dynamics, referencing university education and research as her basis.
• Amala highlights that this reasoning is increasingly standard in academic settings.

Privilege as Judgment (19:18):

• Warren: "You can judge yourself but you can't judge others based on the color of skin without being racist."
• Reporter: "There is a white privilege. That doesn't mean I'm judging them privileged. Having someone... that privilege. It's how you use that privilege."
• Commentary:

  "Saying that people have an inherent privilege based on their race is a judgment."

Definitional Impasse (20:14):

• Warren: "So would people say, well, black people have to use separate water fountains? Because that's just how it is."
• Reporter: "If that's how you want to take it, that's how you want to take it."

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Warren Smith [01:05]: "Where'd you learn that?"
• Woke Reporter [01:07]: "That's just how it is. That there's no way to arrive to that."
• Amala [01:12]: "I stood ten toes down on the idea that you could not be racist towards White people... because of the woke atmosphere around me."
• Warren Smith [03:21]: "DEI inevitably is racist... because I think it's the only example of systemic racism anyone's been able to provide."
• Warren Smith [09:02]: "DEI means something very specific. Equity means something different than equality. That's why we have different words for both of them."
• Woke Reporter [13:38]: "We have to overcorrect it to make it an even playing field to then eventually... no one needs an extra boot because they haven't been disenfranchised."
• Warren Smith [15:06]: "I agree racism is bad, but I don't think implementing racism to get over racism is logical."
• Woke Reporter [16:52]: "It's about a power imbalance. It's punching up versus punching down."
• Amala [14:04]: "Good people must judge based on race to level the playing field of the bad people who want to judge based on race."
• Video Commentator [20:47]: "There you have it. We end on. That's just how it is. Do you want to advance any further on this? No, I don't have to, nor do I want to. Unsurprising."

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:00 / 01:05: Initial claim that racism against white people is impossible.
• 01:12: Amala shares her past belief in this woke principle.
• 03:00 – 06:00: Warren and the reporter debate DEI, equality, equity, and hiring practices.
• 09:02 – 09:44: Clarity sought between equality (opportunity) and equity (outcome).
• 12:32 – 14:51: Socioeconomic vs. race-based advantage; looping logic of DEI as both means and end.
• 15:12 – 17:00: The reporter reasserts that racism is a function of power imbalance—"punching up vs. punching down."
• 19:18 – 20:07: Judging people by their race as a marker of privilege.
• 20:14 – 20:28: End of substantive discussion, repeated fallback to "that's just how it is."

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Conclusion

This episode offers a deep, real-world look at the convoluted debates around racism, privilege, DEI, and contemporary social justice language. Through parsed definitions, relentless questioning, and direct personal anecdotes, Amala and her commentators illustrate how circular reasoning and emotionally charged convictions often stand in for logic or consistency in woke discourse. The final takeaway: genuine discussion breaks down when participants refuse to define terms or move beyond learned scripts, reinforcing the very divides DEI purports to bridge.

Transcript

[Woke Reporter]

I'm just going to say this and you can debate it. You can't be racist against white people. You can be prejudiced against white people. Racism implies a power imbalance.

[Warren Smith]

Where'd you learn that? All right.

[Video Commentator]

She started a debate on racism that she guaranteed was not ready for. Let's talk about it. Yeah, you better. Yeah, you better. Guys, before we get into today's video, please like and subscribe. Today we're reacting to a video that I saw go viral on X featuring Warren Smith. Now, he's a former teacher and shout out to him. He has a YouTube channel. I've watched some of his content. You guys should go and subscribe. Now he gets into a debate with a WOKE reporter on racism and dei and I do fear that he bodies her.

[Woke Reporter]

Okay.

[Video Commentator]

And he's no stranger to debating these topics. I think he actually got fired as a teacher for speaking out on some of these topics and some of the cultural issues and the, the woke mumbo jumbo of today. So now we're going to watch him debate a woke reporter. And I have a feeling I already know how this goes. Let's watch.

[Woke Reporter]

I'm just going to say this and you can debate it. You can't be racist against white people. You can be prejudiced against white people. Racism implies a power imbalance.

[Warren Smith]

Where'd you learn that?

[Woke Reporter]

That's just how it is. That there's no way to arrive to that.

[Warren Smith]

You just say it's just how it is.

[Video Commentator]

I love that. Where'd you learn that? That's just how it is. Now guys, I'm going to give you some lore on me. You all know I used to be a super, super big leftist. This was all throughout middle school, all throughout high school. And then subsequent of that, I sort of ended up waking up and changing my mind on a lot of things. Now back in high school, I had two friends and they happen to be more conservative leaning friends and I hated them for it. Okay? And we one day got into an argument about racism against white people and they were arguing with me saying, absolutely, you can be racist towards white people. It does exist. I got so mad and so upset over this that I don't think I spoke to these girls for like two days. And mind you, these are like my best friends now in adulthood. So I was this insufferable type of person. She's being a little bit kinder than I would have been back in the day about a conversation like this. But I stood ten toes down on the idea that you could not be racist towards White people, because it has to be systemic in nature and white people are in power and they have so much privilege that it's impossible to be racist towards them. And where did I get that idea from? Of course, the woke atmosphere around me. But I probably would have given an answer similar to this. It's just. It's just like that. It just is.

[Woke Reporter]

That's. That is.

[Warren Smith]

So would people say, well, black people have to use separate water fountains because that's just how it is. I'm sorry.

[Woke Reporter]

If that's how you want take it, that's how you want to take it.

[Warren Smith]

You don't think you can dance anymore on that?

[Woke Reporter]

I really don't want to.

[Video Commentator]

You heard it here first, folks. That's just how it is. And I don't want to talk about it any further. This girl's a reporter. She shouldn't be able to report. There's no integrity in a statement like this. And mind you, she came up with the debate topic. She came to him and said, let's speak about this issue and is now landing on. That's just how it is. Okay.

[Warren Smith]

Wanted to get this out quickly because this is one of the most important interactions I've ever caught on camera. I was at a student summit speaking to students. A reporter sat down who was covering the event. When people are talking about dei, they're specifically talking about trying to achieve specific outcomes. Yes, so you said. I don't think it logically works.

[Woke Reporter]

Okay.

[Warren Smith]

I tried to point out to her that DEI inevitably is racist. Logically. There's no way around it because I think it's the only example of systemic racism anyone's been able to provide.

[Woke Reporter]

To me, it's not systemic racism against you. Everyone deserves a chance to speak and a chance to kind of be out there. We are only as good as representing everyone in our nation. It's not just white men, it's not just rich people. We need every single voice there.

[Warren Smith]

So it'd be equal opportunity, right?

[Woke Reporter]

Yes.

[Warren Smith]

Okay, but. But there. But equity is equal outcome.

[Woke Reporter]

Yes.

[Warren Smith]

So it's a different word. That's why we have a different word.

[Woke Reporter]

Yes, but we should be focusing on. We should be fighting for equal and equity.

[Video Commentator]

You can't do both.

[Warren Smith]

You can't.

[Video Commentator]

You can't have this like equal opportunity landscape where everybody's represented and also be controlling the outcomes for any given thing. Think of college, think of jobs, think of entertainment, where dei, diversity, equity, inclusion is heavily being pushed. If you are controlling the outcome, then you are not giving equal opportunity. That's why equality and equity are two different words. But let's see if she can get there on this one with him.

[Warren Smith]

Okay.

[Woke Reporter]

It's both sides of a coin.

[Warren Smith]

But if equity is. Am I misunderstanding equity?

[Woke Reporter]

I don't think you are. I think equity is leveling the playing field, so then everyone can reach an equal opportunity.

[Warren Smith]

Okay, so let's run through an example, like, how do we level the playing field? I'm a firefighter, volunteer firefighter. So let's use that as an example. If there's not enough of a specific skin color in the fire department, how do we fix that without being racist?

[Woke Reporter]

It's also just reaching out to demographics who don't.

[Warren Smith]

That's advertising.

[Woke Reporter]

It's advertising, yes. But it's making sure those people that feel comfortable joining a group like firefighters.

[Warren Smith]

So we'll put. We have. Because mentally, we have this column of advertising. We're trying to put that aside and understand equity, though, because you're advocating for dei.

[Woke Reporter]

Yes.

[Video Commentator]

He does a really great job of creating an example and a landscape, I think, for her to work in. And you can see how she immediately tries to skirt the issue. And instead of allowing her to skip the issue, he goes, okay, let's set aside the thing that you just said that is irrelevant to the topic we're talking about and get back to the topic that we're talking about. It is okay to advertise or market being a firefighter to all different types of communities, all different types of genders, sexual orientations, races. It's another thing to control the outcome of who becomes a firefighter. If I say 25% of our firefighting team has to be black, I have then controlled the outcome with something like equity, which is not equal opportunity. Equality and equal opportunity would be, everybody can show up, and we will judge you based on your credentials, not on your background, your sexual orientation, your gender. And if you make it to be a firefighter, then so be it. We've judged you all equally, so these things cannot exist at the same time. Which is what she is heavily arguing for right now. By, again, not addressing the topic at hand. He's very nicely handing her the shovel to dig her own grave. Okay, so let's keep watching.

[Woke Reporter]

Yes.

[Warren Smith]

Okay, so. So can you get into the DEI portion of it beyond advertising?

[Woke Reporter]

Just that, like, everyone is equal of a. I don't really understand what you're asking.

[Warren Smith]

Keep in mind this is someone who has already graduated college. I doubt she has ever been challenged on this ever before.

[Woke Reporter]

It's opening up these doors for everyone. So we don't have to get to a point where that is an issue.

[Warren Smith]

Can we get specific though? What does it mean, opening up the doors without lowering standards?

[Woke Reporter]

It's allowing people to understand that everyone is welcome. And bridging, again, bridging the gap advertising. I agree with you on that aspect. I think that's part of it. It's showing off that you're.

[Video Commentator]

What do you mean this will happen? When you talk to a person that happened when you spoke to me a few years back, they will speak to you about their policy prescriptions in these just open terms. I'm trying to open the door for everybody. I'm trying to make everybody feel welcome. I'm trying to make sure that everybody is equally respected, that everybody feels good in space, that everybody knows that they can come to the space. None of that speaks to the actual effect of diversity, equity and inclusion, which is segregation, discrimination and racism, among a slew of other problematic things. So, yes, it's great to make people feel welcome. It's great to give people an opportunity. It's great to open a door. But you're not actually facing the very thing that you're advocating for, because that's not what DEI is.

[Warren Smith]

How do you get it? How do you get equal outcome?

[Woke Reporter]

By making sure the standards are the same. By making. Making sure everyone feels welcome and is trained the same way. That has nothing to do. DEI has nothing to do with equal with standards.

[Warren Smith]

You just said making sure everyone is trained the same way.

[Woke Reporter]

Yes.

[Warren Smith]

How is that dei?

[Woke Reporter]

It's. That's just basic hiring.

[Warren Smith]

Right. That's my point is it's not dei.

[Video Commentator]

Yeah.

[Warren Smith]

So can you explain to me dei?

[Woke Reporter]

DEI is making sure everyone feels welcome and secure and that you're not just

[Warren Smith]

making people feel welcome, it's making sure

[Woke Reporter]

everyone has the equal opportunity to apply to something. Everyone has the equal opportunity to get hired.

[Warren Smith]

That'd be equality, which we have.

[Video Commentator]

We've already there. That would be equality. And you'll. You'll find yourself talking to leftists about equity and equality. And you just check how many times people are actually getting these two words mixed up. Because if you're actually concerned with equality, equal opportunity, everybody being able to apply, everybody being judged on their applications and whether or not they meet a standard rather than skin color, sexual orientation, yada, yada, yada, that is equal to equality, not the controlling of outcomes, which is equity. And so often people do not know the difference between these two phrases or words.

[Warren Smith]

That's not dei. DEI means something very specific. Equity means something different than equality. That's why we have different words for both of them. Equal ability to become a firefighter.

[Woke Reporter]

Yes.

[Warren Smith]

That's not equity.

[Woke Reporter]

I still. Okay, okay.

[Warren Smith]

So do you think dei now, if we look at it through this lens, do you think pushing for equal outcomes might be a flawed process?

[Woke Reporter]

I still don't think so.

[Warren Smith]

Equity means equality of outcome. No one can explain to me how you're going to achieve that without being by definition racist. The only response she can offer is to change the very definition of racism.

[Video Commentator]

And that's absolutely true. And we've seen it happen, again, I'll mention, in the job market. We've seen it happen in college. We've seen it happen in the entertainment industry. When you prioritize people of a certain background, you are inherently discriminating against others. You are being racist. You're not checking to make sure whether or not people are meeting certain standards. You have an obligation then to represent a certain type of group to a certain extent, which is discriminatory. But I don't think she's ever going to admit that. I think there's a little bit of pride in this moment. Maybe down the line she will face the fact on the difference between these two things.

[Woke Reporter]

You can debate the language and you can confuse people with how you debate the language. I just think fighting for everyone to have equal rights, equal opportunities, making sure that playing field is equality and equity go hand in hand. You cannot have one without the other.

[Video Commentator]

Now, she just accused him of trying to confuse the language and using semantic tricks to win this argument, when in reality, that is what she's doing. She is changing the definition of words. She is skirting the issue. She is not addressing the distinction between equality and equity. And then she just reverses it on him and says that you're the one who's actually confusing the language. No, he's attempting over and over again to achieve some sort of clarity as to what you mean when you say you support diversity, equity and inclusion. And she provides no clarity whatsoever. Just. That's the way it is. And okay, when he tries to define

[Warren Smith]

terms, Right, okay, so the words mean specific things, that we have two different words because they mean different. It's not like a word game. Right. Can we agree on that?

[Woke Reporter]

Yes.

[Warren Smith]

Okay, so if they go hand in hand, but what can you explain? What's the difference between equity versus equality?

[Woke Reporter]

Equity is making sure that. So let's say equality is just kind of giving everyone the same opportunity. Equity is everyone has the same opportunity, but you might not have access to that opportunity because of obstacles in your way. So everyone has access to apply to a job. Not everyone can. Let's take colleges. Everyone has access to apply to colleges. Not everyone can afford the application fee. Not everyone can afford a college counselor to make sure they get in. Not everyone can afford tuition, loans, etc. Etc.

[Warren Smith]

Socioeconomic?

[Woke Reporter]

Yes, Equity scholarships.

[Warren Smith]

Not applied on race. Yes, your socioeconomic status. You can see her face change as soon as I say not applied on race. She's like, wait, hold up. To her, the important component is skin color. You can't take that out of the equation. And this is where she starts to get upset. So like my students, I used to be a teacher. My students taught students that came from like nothing. The problem with, with equity is that it's only applying that socioeconomic advantage based on skin color. Because they're saying this group, this because a group.

[Woke Reporter]

I disagree. There's as someone who just graduated and went through scholarship opportunities, there's opportunities, specific scholarships for people of color, for Italians, which I am, which I don't consider myself in a press class. There's scholarships for low income people, every single demographic. There is a way to give a boost up for.

[Warren Smith]

So I guess I'm just curious. I don't understand why we break people down into groups based on race.

[Video Commentator]

We shouldn't, we shouldn't just circling, circling, circling, circling, circling the drain on this particular topic. So she can admit that we shouldn't be separating people based on race. We shouldn't be judging people based on race. She then advocates that we do exactly that with diversity, equity and inclusion. This is the never ending loop that you will end up in with a leftist. I was in it as a leftist. And you will just always find your way back to that center point from which you started. Because you can go through mental gymnastics all day long in this framework to get back there again. It is truly never ending. And kudos to him for continuing to attempt to have this conversation with her as you're not really getting anywhere.

[Woke Reporter]

But that's where we always have been. The whole point of I guess is to level that. It's to make it so we get to a point where that those groups don't matter. But right now for bad people, they matter. So we have to overcorrect it to make it an even playing field to then eventually down the year, down the line, everyone is exactly equal. No one needs an extra boot because they haven't been disenfranchised.

[Video Commentator]

Just an amazing, amazing way to view the world. It is utterly black and white and I say black and white, I guess, pun intended, because that's how they're looking at people of certain races and that's how they're grouping people together. And she's done it time and time again in this conversation. She's literally saying this is the case because there are good people and there are bad people, and bad people want to judge based on race. So good people must judge based on race to level the playing field of the bad people. Who wants to judge based on race? College graduate and reporter. I don't want to come down too hard on this girl. I admire her for sitting down and attempting to have the conversation. But is she truly attempting to have the conversation when he's time and time again meeting her with points that completely cancel out what she just said and she's not willing to meet him where he's at or where he's taking her?

[Warren Smith]

I run into it and I appreciate you having this conversation. I mean this honestly, because you just admitted that it's a bad thing what we're doing.

[Woke Reporter]

It's a bad thing, what we were doing. I mean, previously, when people weren't hired because of their race, because of their gender, because of their sexual orientation.

[Warren Smith]

I agree racism is bad, but I don't think implementing racism is to get over racism is logical.

[Woke Reporter]

It's not racism. I'm sorry, I just, I. I'm just going to say this and you can debate it. You can't be racist against white people. You can be prejudiced against white people. Racism implies a power imbalance that white people, people have the advantage over.

[Video Commentator]

So we're back to this. Racism has a power dynamic in it. It has a systemic structure. And therefore you cannot be racist towards white people. Never mind the fact that it looks like a duck, it quacks like a duck, it's got the colors of a duck. It's a horse. That's where we're going with this conversation over and over. Even though you can look at college applications and see that black people are meeting lower standards, yet getting in at higher rates than, say, Asians or whites based on diversity, equity, inclusion, we can look at the media and see that people of col are overwhelmingly being represented relative to their population size and that white people are being discriminated against actively by all different studios and agencies. Doesn't matter, you know, Looks like a duck. Quacks like a duck. It's a horse, guys. It's a horse. Look at the job market. Look at places like Coca Cola. These massive corporations who are trying to train their employees to be less White look at the Smithsonian museum that is coming out with an exhibit on white supremacy and all the different extensions of it in our modern culture here in America. All of these things are part of dei. They are racist. They look exactly like the Jim Crow south of our past. But no, because white people have power and privilege, you can't be racist towards them whatsoever. And let's remember again, she accused him earlier of confusing the language and changing words in order for it to meet his narrative.

[Warren Smith]

You can't. So it's. Where'd you learn that?

[Woke Reporter]

That's the. Any bullying, any kind of form of, of. It's about a power imbalance. It's punching up versus punching down.

[Video Commentator]

Where did I learn that?

[Woke Reporter]

I went to school, I went to university, I read, I do research.

[Warren Smith]

I thought racism was treating people differently based on, upon the color of their skin.

[Woke Reporter]

I mean on the very basics, yes, but there is the aspect of it

[Warren Smith]

can't be racist unless there's a power.

[Woke Reporter]

Because it's the same thing with bullying. It's like again, it's punching up versus

[Warren Smith]

punching down word for racism versus punch bullying.

[Woke Reporter]

Because racism is bullying on the impression of race.

[Warren Smith]

So it is race. It's not so you can be racist against us.

[Woke Reporter]

When there is a bully, you have a small guy and a big guy. Even if that small guy is trying to bully the big guy, there is not that same power imbalance.

[Video Commentator]

Again, back to these very simplistic structures that we view the world in. Good, bad, big guy, small guy, white, black, power, no power, oppressor, oppressed. Every single time you talk to a leftist, I think you will land somewhere in there in the way that they view everything that's taking place in the world. Now when asked where she learned all this, it's very telling, she says, from a place of really educational superiority. Where did I learn this? I went to school, I researched, I read. Implying that those who believe anything different probably didn't go to school or if they did, they didn't go to the right school and they didn't receive the proper education. And it's really a tell that this is becoming inherent to the American education system. If you're going to a higher education institution, by and large you are going to be spoon fed this sort of information and this very simplistic view of the world that is quite literally, I think, rotting our brains. You have young people heading into college being taught all this stuff and then they're just pushed out into the world to propagate these ideas further. And that's what's happening here. Luckily, these two have come together to have this conversation because you're categorizing an

[Warren Smith]

entire group of people as a little guy versus a big guy. How's that not racist?

[Woke Reporter]

Because it's systematically how it's always been to this day.

[Warren Smith]

But you're making a judgment on someone based on the color of their skin.

[Woke Reporter]

That's not what I said.

[Warren Smith]

You just said it's always been that way. You are this thing because of that.

[Woke Reporter]

No, I said it's always been. People have always treated others that way.

[Warren Smith]

Aren't you doing that, though?

[Woke Reporter]

No.

[Warren Smith]

But you just said someone with this skin color has a hierarchy of power.

[Woke Reporter]

Yes. I am a white person, so I have inherently privilege.

[Warren Smith]

You can judge yourself, but you can't judge others based on the color of skin without being racist.

[Woke Reporter]

Yes, I agree. That's not what I said at all.

[Warren Smith]

You said white people have a automatic.

[Woke Reporter]

There is a white privilege. That doesn't mean I'm judging them privileged. Having someone. You having privilege doesn't mean I judge you for that privilege. It's how you use that privilege.

[Warren Smith]

You are judging them based on the color scheme.

[Woke Reporter]

I'm not.

[Video Commentator]

You having privilege doesn't mean I'm judging you based on the privilege. Saying that people have an inherent privilege based on their race is a judgment. It's a judgment call that you are making. Saying that people don't have privilege based on their race is also a judgment call that you are making. And you are making that judgment call based off of what you see based off of their skin color.

[Warren Smith]

Are you arriving at the conclusion that they have privilege, though?

[Woke Reporter]

Because in. If that's just how it is, that there's no way to arrive to that

[Warren Smith]

happen, you just say it's just how it is.

[Woke Reporter]

That's. That is.

[Warren Smith]

So would people say, well, black people have to use separate water fountains? Because that's just how it is. I'm sorry.

[Woke Reporter]

If that's how you want to take it, that's how you want to take it.

[Warren Smith]

You don't think you can advance any more on that?

[Woke Reporter]

I really don't want to.

[Warren Smith]

Right. Well, thank you.

[Woke Reporter]

Of course.

[Warren Smith]

Keep in mind, this is an event that is designed for students to come together to have difficult conversations and disagree. If this. If I'm being too insensitive in this interaction, then what's the point of the event?

[Video Commentator]

There you have it. We end on. That's just how it is. Do you want to advance any further on this? No, I don't have to, nor do I want to unsurprising. This was me circa what, I don't know, 2018 at this point, 2017, maybe. I would have been the person who would have sat down for this conversation and attempted to make the very same point that she is making. Luckily, I'm on the other end of this now. You can in fact be racist towards white people. All you have to believe is that certain races have certain qualities or characteristics that make them superior or inferior. That is the heart of what racism means. That's the heart of how it is applied when you are a racist and you therefore can be racist towards white people. Sorry to my two friends in high school for those two days I didn't

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talk to you because I was incapable

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of making that point and incapable of acknowledging that that was a fact. I was once where this girl is so I can't judge her that hard. But we can criticize the points. We can break down some of the reasoning or maybe lack thereof in the arguments made in this video. Again, shout out Warren Smith. Go and follow him. He's doing good work and having long conversations that just loop and loop and loop. Guys, I'd love to hear your thoughts in the comments down below. I've given you mine. If you disagree with anything I said

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in this video, do get out.

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But disrespectfully, I encourage health debate on the channel. And if you like this video, like subscribe, click the notification. I'll be notified every single time I post a video for you guys, which is every day. And I will see you guys tomorrow. Bye guys. Yeah, you better. Yeah, you better.