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Exactly, exactly. Now, okay, these people are the same again as Swan saw. Very tall, sort of Nordic people, very broad shouldered people, not an ounce of body fat. They have, they're wearing these skin tight clothes, you know, that reveal every contour of every muscle. And he says some very interesting things about their worldview, their outlook and their dying Civilization. But what's most interesting is this, he says that a group of them were sent out in a craft to go scout out a new world that they could possibly develop as a habitation for themselves because Mars was no longer a planet on which they could survive. Right. And this scout ship runs into a planet where there are constant electrical storms. There's a tremendous amount of volcanic activity. It's the opposite of Mars, but in a way that's also difficult to support human life. In other words, it's overgrown with vegetation. Right. It's an incredibly volatile but living planet. And they're like, we can't live in this planet under these conditions. We would have to modify this planet to live there. And so I suspect that what's going on there is the scouting out of a primordial Earth by people from Mars. Which then brings us to the question of the Moon, you know, and what the Moon is. Right. I mean, so we've got Carl Wolf telling us there's a city on the dark side of the Moon. We've got Ingo Swann having done remote viewing that confirms that. But I think that the situation with the Moon is, is actually a lot more disturbing than there simply being, you know, a city sized alien base on the backside of the alien whatever base on the backside of the Moon. You look at the, the geometry and the mathematics of, of the Moon in relation to the Earth and the Sun. It makes no sense. The, the moon is 1/400th the distance between the Earth and the sun and it's 1/400th the size of the Sun. And so that creates these perfect eclipses that we see. Right? That by itself is very odd. And then you look at the fact that the craters on the Moon are all only a few miles deep. You never find a crater on the Moon that's more than five or six miles deep. But some of these craters are like 186 miles wide. Right? So, and at the, you know, the base of the largest craters, you see a convex surface. In other words, it looks nothing like the Grand Canyon or the Valles Marineris on Mars where like, you know, an asteroid would hit it and you'd see a deep gouge that should be proportionally as deep as it is wide. No, what you're seeing apparently is a hard shell that's being revealed through the impact against the regolith by whatever object the ejecta is going 186 miles out in every direction. But there's never a crater deeper than a few miles. And what's Being revealed there at the crater base is a hard, convex surface. Then there's the impact. Well, one of them was a test. One of them was accidental. The first one, I think part of an Apollo lander hit the Moon, and there was a seismograph that had already been positioned there, and it registered basically the seismic signature that you would face if you were measuring a hollow object. That basically the reverberations went down for about 20 miles and then they stop. And the way that the reverberation was distributed throughout the Moon suggested that, as the observers put it, it rang like a bell. And so then they repeated this test deliberately a second time. I think it was in Apollo 13. And this time they hit it with. With a more significant impact. And this kind of seismic signature was observed for three hours, the Moon basically ringing like a hollow object for three hours. So there's all this evidence that the Moon is an artificial satellite. And setting this in the Context of Joe McMonagle's remote viewing of Mars, what I argue in closer encounters is that the people on Mars probably constructed the Moon for two purposes. One, as a very large scale transport of a significant population from Mars to the orbit of the Earth, and two, as a terraforming device to radically alter the ecological situation of the planet so as to make it habitable for humans. Right. They said there were these horrendous constant electrical storms and volcanic eruptions, eruptions and so on and so forth. Well, you know, the Earth spun a lot faster before the. If the Moon had not been in orbit at some point, we would have been dealing with a planet that was a lot more unstable, spinning much faster, prone to toppling over. The Moon acts as a tremendous stabilizer for the Earth, by the way, that's another thing about the Moon is that it has a unusually stable orbit as compared to the moons around other planets, as if there's a stabilizer inside it. It. So I think it was created to transport a large population and it was used as a terraforming device. Now, to answer your deeper question, what does that say about who these people are? Right. Number one, it says that they're people. So NHI is not an appropriate appellation for these individuals. Right. They look like us, particularly, they look Nordic. And they appear to have been the progenitors of the human race. Not only that, they appear to have terraformed the Earth to make it habitable for humanoids. But I have one huge problem with all of that. The time scales. It makes no sense whatsoever to me that you would have people who look like us, I don't know, millions of years BC On Mars, the same people are basically, you know, I don't know, involved in the power struggle that's been remembered as the myth of the Atlantean revolt. The same people are being encountered today by, let's say, Travis Walton. When Walton was abducted, first he had to deal with these Grays, these little robotic entities that, you know, tried to put him back together after he, you know, sustained some kind of physical damage being thrown by the, you know, electrogravitic repulsion of the craft. But then he, you know, big strapping fellow that he was, he broke free of the control of these robots and the medical facility or whatever went down the hallway and he bumped into these Nordics. And from there on he was handled by these people. He said they looked like they could all have been members of the same family. I went into another room where there was a chair. There was some kind of a projection or some kind of a viewing thing in this room where you could see a map of stars. A man came in while I was trying to find a way out there. And this was a human looking person. They had passed in a crowd. This individual on Earth, he was bigger than me, taller and more muscular. Very large individual. I went up and tried to talk to this guy and he didn't answer me. He led me outside of this craft that I was in, which was apparently parked inside of a large room or building or a larger craft, and led me out of this room into another room where some other beings like himself put me unconscious. When I regained consciousness, I found myself laying on the roadway. I saw a craft hovering there that just sat there for a second and just shot straight up. That's the last I've seen of. And then you have cases like, you know, Betty Andreas and Lucas, where again you have her taken. She's frozen together with her family by Grays who come into the house. This is 1960s housewife, and her and her daughter Becky, I believe, were both taken. And initially they're handled by the Grays, who freeze the family and abduct them from the home. But then they are brought to a place where they encounter these angelic looking Nordic beings who proceed to tell Betty that essentially they're the angels and that the little Greys are responsible for writing down all the deeds of humans. They're like a mass surveillance system that keeps a record of everybody's life. And these tall angelic beings told her that they brought Christ into the world. And don't worry, they're Going to bring him back again soon. And while she was with them, and by the way, she didn't say they took her into space. They seemed to have taken her somewhere underground or underwater. And while she was there, she noticed this, like, doorway or large mirror or something that led toward this light. And some of these little gray entities went into the light, and they told her, you can't go in there. That's the one. That's the source, and that sent Jesus into the world and will again soon. Right, Right. So a couple of points I want to make through, you know, these various cases. One is that we. We often hear these narratives where these, you know, tall, statuesque, beautiful Nordics are pitted against these ugly little transhumanist Gray robots. And, you know, like the Eisenhower story that, you know, Eisenhower met with the Nordics first, and then, you know, he met with the Grays, and the Grays made him a better deal because the Nordics wanted us to get rid of our nuclear weapons. The Gray said, no, we'll give you our technology. Just let us abduct a certain number of people each year. This is extremely dubious to me, this narrative, because there are plenty of cases that attest to the fact that the Grays are some kind of a cybernetic robot that work for these Nordics, and the Nordics appear to be the ones in control. So if there's a narrative that's being promulgated of, you know, beneficent Nordics versus, like, inhuman, monstrous Greys, I think it's some kind of good cop, bad cop bait and switch that's being set up here to ultimately put us in a position of captivation. And you first see this in 1950s Italy. There's a case that I cover in Closer Encounters. This guy Bruno Sammacicia and his associates were engaged by these Nordics who had underground bases. And they claimed, first of all, as you see with all these cases of encounters with Nordics, demonstration of tremendous psi abilities. These Nordics are all telepathic. They can perform, you know, impressive telekinetic feats and so on and so forth. But what this Bruno Samaciccia and his associates said is that these Nordics were so benevolent, like they would never harm a fly. But they told us that there were these other entities. The contrary. The ctr, the contrary, who are these little robotic entities, and they're soulless, and they just want to. You know, they want control over the human soul because they don't have souls themselves. And they're locked in a. In a millennial battle with these beings. So this Nordics vs Gray narrative goes all the way back to 1950s. Interestingly, Sama Chichya makes a little note that, you know, at one point it occurred to me that the SS were involved in eugenics programs and there were rumors that after the war these eugenics programs were continued in secret in underground facilities and so on and so forth. And I wonder whether these people that we saw, and they also saw very young people fitting this Nordic type were are basically products, outcomes of such programs that had begun in the Second World War. He engages, albeit briefly, in that kind of speculation. So, long story short, my point is that these people are integral to human history and to the development of human society. We're not dealing with something that's coming from the outside. And I'd be very suspicious of, you know, claims by, let's say, you know, George Adamski saying that so and so Furcon told them that he was from Mars, or George Van Tassel saying that he was dealing with Venusians, or Billy Meyer telling us about the, you know, beneficent Pleiadians who are going to come to save us all, right? These beings are incredibly deceptive. I mean, deception is part of their mo. Jacques Vallee picks up on this in the context of the fairy folklore of the Middle Ages. I mean, one very consistent thing that you see in encounters with the gentry, the elite fairies in Brittany and in Ireland and so on and so forth, is that the peasants know that these beings lie all the time. They lie all the time about everything. And they only call them the good folk because otherwise they'll get pissed off and learns what they'll do to you. So I think we're dealing with a faction of humanity that's positioned itself as a sort of overlord or master caste above the common herd. And they have adopted all kinds of guises and disguises to, you know, strategically deceive us for the sake of the preservation of their control system.
