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In today's episode of American Alchemy, Jesse Michels sits down with Matthew Pines, a national security expert and Fellow at the Bitcoin Policy Institute, to explore the intersections of secret physics programs, elite networks, and UAP disclosure. From the CIA's founding to mid-century breakthroughs in theoretical physics, and the role of gatekeepers in modern UFO revelations, this conversation dives into alternate histories and the future of humanity.

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Timestamps:

00:00 - Intro

01:27 - Current Affairs

12:20 - Trump’s Next 4 Years

23:16 - UFOs

40:02 - Alternate US History

55:19 - Secret Physics Program

01:04:32 - Modern Theoretical Physics

01:33:10 - Theories of Consciousness

02:01:10 - Ascension / Timelines / Simulation

02:32:15 - Next Phase of Humanity / Big Tech

02:44:40 - UFO Gatekeepers / Modern Disclosure

02:58:01 - China / UFO Disclosure / UAP Task Force

03:10:50 - Alien Hierarchy / Space Programs

03:19:41 - Mormonism / Elon Musk

03:28:31 - Mid Century Physics Breakthroughs

03:39:50 - Secrets Physics Program (Continued)

03:47:01 - AI & UFOs

03:59:12 - Next Steps in UFO Disclosure

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*** AMERICAN ALCHEMY is an original series hosted by Jesse Michels that explores the frontier of science and tech. Each week, we bring you exclusive interviews with some of the leading thinkers of our time.

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