Podcast Summary: American Alchemy

Episode: UFOs, Human Experiments & Rockefeller's Dystopian Health System (ft. Brigham Buhler)
Host: Jesse Michels
Guest: Brigham Buhler (Healthcare Entrepreneur, founder of Ways2Well)
Date: October 8, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode of American Alchemy dives deep into the interwoven conspiracies and real-world histories shaping the modern American health system, drawing parallels between UFO secrecy, covert government operations, and the corporate capture of healthcare. Host Jesse Michels and guest Brigham Buhler chronicle how industrialists (notably Rockefeller), governmental agencies, and pharmaceutical giants have engineered a system focused on profit over wellness—often at the expense of truth, innovation, and human dignity. The discussion threads through suppressed medical technologies, historic human experiments, the symbolism and potential origins of DNA, and concludes with strategies for reclaiming autonomy over personal and societal health.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dystopian Parallels: Fiction vs. Reality

Jesse introduces the concept that contemporary America mirrors the managed, dehumanized societies of dystopian fiction (e.g., The Matrix, Blade Runner).
Increasing commodification of health, knowledge, and social interaction is making the public less engaged and more docile.
Notable Quote:
"There is an acceptance of the dystopia they survive in, like the proverbial frog sat in slowly boiling water."
[00:00, Jesse]

2. The Origins of a Dystopian Health System

[02:25 – 05:17]

The transformation of American medicine began in the early 1900s via John D. Rockefeller’s attempts to monopolize healthcare using petrochemical pharmaceuticals.
The Flexner Report (1910), funded by Rockefeller and Carnegie, led to the closure of holistic medical schools and enforced a drug-based, symptom-focused model.
The birth of "Big Pharma" saw natural medicines and unpatentable therapies systematically marginalized.
Notable Quote:
"A system of sick care, not healthcare. A system designed to turn your illness into profit."
[04:11, Jesse]

3. Institutional Corruption & Corporate Capture

[03:36 – 04:59, 32:27 – 33:49, 59:33 – 62:56]

The American Medical Association (AMA) and FDA’s creation were orchestrated to support this new corporate medical paradigm.
Collusion between government, finance (e.g., Brown Brothers Harriman), and giant corporations underlies the formation of entities like the Federal Reserve, CIA, and Big Pharma.
Brigham Buhler’s Insider Insight:
"There's just so much corruption, collusion and corporate capture. And it's all real. Like, I’ve lived it."
[04:59]

4. Human Experimentation: War & Medicine

[05:17 – 11:03, 41:06 – 41:40]

Jesse recounts WWII atrocities, including Japan’s Unit 731 and Bayer’s collaboration with the Nazis, highlighting how war criminals traded human experiment data for immunity.
American and European corporations (e.g., Bayer, Monsanto) have histories riddled with unethical testing and environmental harm—spanning contaminated hemophilia treatments, Agent Orange, and persistent toxins like dioxin/glyphosate.
The relationship between military, intelligence, and pharmaceutical research continued post-WWII, blending into covert MK Ultra-style programs with human experimentation for brainwashing and control.
Notable Quote:
“The dystopian reality of the modern health care system was built on the machinery of death in the military industrial complex.”
[09:15, Jesse]

5. The Big Pharma–CIA–Monsanto Nexus

[11:11 – 18:25]

Project MKUltra and related mind control experiments were transferred to the private biotech sector (GD Searle), later chaired by Donald Rumsfeld and sold to Monsanto.
Companies like Monsanto and Bechtel likely have deeper links to covert UFO, experimental, and bioweapons programs.
Lou Elizondo Connection:
"He says... people coming after him are involved in Monsanto. And there's this Monsanto Bechtel connection from back in the day... maybe involved in the UFO alien issue as well."
[17:38, Brigham Buhler]

6. UFOs, Majestic 12, and the Rockefeller Connection

[18:25 – 19:35]

Discussion of Majestic 12 documents, Detlev Bronk (Rockefeller Foundation/JHU), and the implication that elite scientific-political committees govern both the UFO and health narratives.

7. Suppressed Medical Innovations

[19:35 – 26:57, 36:04 – 38:14]

Historical and modern “fringe” therapies (electromagnetic, frequency-based healing, light therapies) suppressed in favor of scalable, patentable drugs.
The story of Royal Raymond Rife and his frequency microscope exemplifies systematic discrediting of non-pharmaceutical breakthroughs.
Quote:
"One of the strangest but most persistent ideas in... dismissed medical science is the realm of electromagnetic fields and frequencies..."
[19:35, Jesse]
Red Light Therapy Example:
"A guy won a Nobel Prize in 1907... for his studies in using light therapy... and now there’s studies coming out of the UK that show that red light three times a week... can restore degenerative eyesight."
[33:51, Health Care Entrepreneur]

8. DNA Mysteries, Ancient Knowledge, and Cosmic Origins

[25:44 – 30:51, 46:17 – 47:50]

DNA possibly has extraterrestrial or panspermia origins (Francis Crick’s theory).
Ancient symbols (e.g., caduceus) reflect early awareness of the double helix motif.
DNA’s “junk” ("non-coding") sections may hold unexplored regulatory or energetic functions.
Russian and other studies propose DNA as a kind of fractal antenna, possibly tied to consciousness or cosmic information.
Connection between the Department of Energy's dual role in the Human Genome Project and UFO secrecy.

9. A System Built to Perpetuate Sickness

[52:08 – 55:48, 62:00 – 63:38]

Chronic disease rates soar not by accident but due to perverse incentives: profit lies in ongoing disease management, not prevention.
Most modern clinicians lack nutrition training; truly preventative, holistic care is marginalized.
Quote:
"Most of those diseases are preventable... the problem is environmental."
[54:12, Health Care Entrepreneur]
On Pharma Innovation:
"Between 2011 and 2019...356 blockbuster drugs... zero to two were actually innovated by Big Pharma. The rest came from taxpayer-funded research."
[37:46, Health Care Entrepreneur]

10. Bioweapons, Gain-of-Function, and COVID

[41:06 – 41:40, 60:14 – 61:37]

The dual-use dilemma in biological research: public health advances versus bioweapons underlies the COVID/Wuhan lab controversy.
Fauci/NIAID’s roles blur between public, military, and covert objectives.

11. Community, Loneliness, and Mental Health

[55:24 – 58:40]

Social disconnection and deaths of despair underscore declines in Western societies; health outcomes improve in communities (blue zones) rooted in meaning and social support.
Quote:
"Our physical health is wrecked, but so is our mental health. And it's like deaths of despair right now in America are at an all time high."
[56:50, Health Care Entrepreneur]

12. Information Control, Censorship, and New Media

[65:42 – 67:04]

Mainstream organizations often operate in the dark; alternative media and platforms now force transparency and accountability.
Funding corruption: even groups like the American Heart Association depend on sponsors like PepsiCo/Coca-Cola, leading to conflicting public health stances.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

"A system of sick care, not healthcare... designed to turn your illness into profit." [04:11, Jesse]
"There's just so much corruption, collusion and corporate capture. And it's all real. Like, I’ve lived it." [04:59, Brigham Buhler]
"If you have a fish tank and all the fish are getting sick, you don't blame the fish. You drain the tank." [54:03, Health Care Entrepreneur]
"Most modern day medical professionals have zero nutritional training and we know for a fact food is medicine or food is poison..." [33:51, Health Care Entrepreneur]
"If we are fundamentally connected to this cosmic message... we are allowing it to be slowly cooked off in the modern world of ultra processed foods." [30:51, Jesse]
"If you make your North Star money, maybe you’ll find money—but at what cost? If we make our North Star people and helping people and driving change, nobody can stop us." [62:33, Health Care Entrepreneur]
"I don't have all the answers, but I do know if we can drive healthspan, we can extend lifespan." [83:41, Health Care Entrepreneur]
“The autism rate…in California…1 in 12.5 kids.” [68:23, Health Care Entrepreneur]

Key Timestamps for Important Segments

00:00–02:24 — Dystopian health and society parallels
02:25–05:17 — Rockefeller, Flexner Report, and AMA/Big Pharma origins
05:17–07:54 — Human experiments: Japan, Germany, pharmaceutical war crimes
11:11–13:11 — Monsanto, Agent Orange, glyphosate, and multi-generational damage
16:31–18:25 — Corporate links to UFO secrecy (Bechtel, Monsanto, CIA)
19:35–26:57 — Suppressed electromagnetic/frequency therapies and DNA as cosmic message
36:04–38:14 — Scientific-industrial complex stifling innovation
41:06–41:40 — COVID, bioweapons, and government research
52:08–55:48 — Preventable chronic diseases and failures of “sick care”
55:24–58:40 — Community, loneliness, meaning, and holistic health
62:00–63:38 — Corrupted medical academia; need for people-first incentives
65:42–67:04 — Alternative media, public oversight, and conflicts of interest
68:20–69:49 — Vaccine skepticism and rising autism rates
79:25–80:09 — Practical advice: autonomy, personalized care, breaking out of the system
87:10–88:35 — Hope for actual healthcare, scaling, and aligned incentives

Final Takeaways

The modern U.S. health system is the product of a century’s worth of deliberate corporate capture, reinforced by policy, centralized control, and information suppression.
Profit—and not prevention—has shaped treatment, research funding, and clinician incentives.
There is hope for systemic change: alternative media, patient advocacy, and holistic or functional medicine offer tangible paths forward.
The intersection of questions about human origins (UFOs, cosmic DNA), consciousness, and health point to a deeper, still-repressed vision of human flourishing—one undermined when health is monetized and innovation is systematically stifled.

Practical Advice (summarized):

Seek proactive, predictive, and preventative care; don’t settle for symptom management.
Consider holistic clinics that personalize treatments and use comprehensive biomarker testing.
Take ownership of your health through diet, lifestyle, and self-education—don’t wait for institutional reform.
Maintain critical thinking regarding both mainstream and fringe health advice.
Build meaningful social connections for both mental and physical well-being.

This summary retains the rich, candid tone and complexity of the episode, providing context and clarity for listeners new to “American Alchemy.”

Podcast Summary: American Alchemy

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dystopian Parallels: Fiction vs. Reality

Jesse introduces the concept that contemporary America mirrors the managed, dehumanized societies of dystopian fiction (e.g., The Matrix, Blade Runner).
Increasing commodification of health, knowledge, and social interaction is making the public less engaged and more docile.
Notable Quote:
"There is an acceptance of the dystopia they survive in, like the proverbial frog sat in slowly boiling water."
[00:00, Jesse]

2. The Origins of a Dystopian Health System

[02:25 – 05:17]

The transformation of American medicine began in the early 1900s via John D. Rockefeller’s attempts to monopolize healthcare using petrochemical pharmaceuticals.
The Flexner Report (1910), funded by Rockefeller and Carnegie, led to the closure of holistic medical schools and enforced a drug-based, symptom-focused model.
The birth of "Big Pharma" saw natural medicines and unpatentable therapies systematically marginalized.
Notable Quote:
"A system of sick care, not healthcare. A system designed to turn your illness into profit."
[04:11, Jesse]

3. Institutional Corruption & Corporate Capture

[03:36 – 04:59, 32:27 – 33:49, 59:33 – 62:56]

The American Medical Association (AMA) and FDA’s creation were orchestrated to support this new corporate medical paradigm.
Collusion between government, finance (e.g., Brown Brothers Harriman), and giant corporations underlies the formation of entities like the Federal Reserve, CIA, and Big Pharma.
Brigham Buhler’s Insider Insight:
"There's just so much corruption, collusion and corporate capture. And it's all real. Like, I’ve lived it."
[04:59]

4. Human Experimentation: War & Medicine

[05:17 – 11:03, 41:06 – 41:40]

Jesse recounts WWII atrocities, including Japan’s Unit 731 and Bayer’s collaboration with the Nazis, highlighting how war criminals traded human experiment data for immunity.
American and European corporations (e.g., Bayer, Monsanto) have histories riddled with unethical testing and environmental harm—spanning contaminated hemophilia treatments, Agent Orange, and persistent toxins like dioxin/glyphosate.
The relationship between military, intelligence, and pharmaceutical research continued post-WWII, blending into covert MK Ultra-style programs with human experimentation for brainwashing and control.
Notable Quote:
“The dystopian reality of the modern health care system was built on the machinery of death in the military industrial complex.”
[09:15, Jesse]

5. The Big Pharma–CIA–Monsanto Nexus

[11:11 – 18:25]

Project MKUltra and related mind control experiments were transferred to the private biotech sector (GD Searle), later chaired by Donald Rumsfeld and sold to Monsanto.
Companies like Monsanto and Bechtel likely have deeper links to covert UFO, experimental, and bioweapons programs.
Lou Elizondo Connection:
"He says... people coming after him are involved in Monsanto. And there's this Monsanto Bechtel connection from back in the day... maybe involved in the UFO alien issue as well."
[17:38, Brigham Buhler]

6. UFOs, Majestic 12, and the Rockefeller Connection

[18:25 – 19:35]

Discussion of Majestic 12 documents, Detlev Bronk (Rockefeller Foundation/JHU), and the implication that elite scientific-political committees govern both the UFO and health narratives.

7. Suppressed Medical Innovations

[19:35 – 26:57, 36:04 – 38:14]

Historical and modern “fringe” therapies (electromagnetic, frequency-based healing, light therapies) suppressed in favor of scalable, patentable drugs.
The story of Royal Raymond Rife and his frequency microscope exemplifies systematic discrediting of non-pharmaceutical breakthroughs.
Quote:
"One of the strangest but most persistent ideas in... dismissed medical science is the realm of electromagnetic fields and frequencies..."
[19:35, Jesse]
Red Light Therapy Example:
"A guy won a Nobel Prize in 1907... for his studies in using light therapy... and now there’s studies coming out of the UK that show that red light three times a week... can restore degenerative eyesight."
[33:51, Health Care Entrepreneur]

8. DNA Mysteries, Ancient Knowledge, and Cosmic Origins

[25:44 – 30:51, 46:17 – 47:50]

DNA possibly has extraterrestrial or panspermia origins (Francis Crick’s theory).
Ancient symbols (e.g., caduceus) reflect early awareness of the double helix motif.
DNA’s “junk” ("non-coding") sections may hold unexplored regulatory or energetic functions.
Russian and other studies propose DNA as a kind of fractal antenna, possibly tied to consciousness or cosmic information.
Connection between the Department of Energy's dual role in the Human Genome Project and UFO secrecy.

9. A System Built to Perpetuate Sickness

[52:08 – 55:48, 62:00 – 63:38]

Chronic disease rates soar not by accident but due to perverse incentives: profit lies in ongoing disease management, not prevention.
Most modern clinicians lack nutrition training; truly preventative, holistic care is marginalized.
Quote:
"Most of those diseases are preventable... the problem is environmental."
[54:12, Health Care Entrepreneur]
On Pharma Innovation:
"Between 2011 and 2019...356 blockbuster drugs... zero to two were actually innovated by Big Pharma. The rest came from taxpayer-funded research."
[37:46, Health Care Entrepreneur]

10. Bioweapons, Gain-of-Function, and COVID

[41:06 – 41:40, 60:14 – 61:37]

The dual-use dilemma in biological research: public health advances versus bioweapons underlies the COVID/Wuhan lab controversy.
Fauci/NIAID’s roles blur between public, military, and covert objectives.

11. Community, Loneliness, and Mental Health

[55:24 – 58:40]

Social disconnection and deaths of despair underscore declines in Western societies; health outcomes improve in communities (blue zones) rooted in meaning and social support.
Quote:
"Our physical health is wrecked, but so is our mental health. And it's like deaths of despair right now in America are at an all time high."
[56:50, Health Care Entrepreneur]

12. Information Control, Censorship, and New Media

[65:42 – 67:04]

Mainstream organizations often operate in the dark; alternative media and platforms now force transparency and accountability.
Funding corruption: even groups like the American Heart Association depend on sponsors like PepsiCo/Coca-Cola, leading to conflicting public health stances.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

"A system of sick care, not healthcare... designed to turn your illness into profit." [04:11, Jesse]
"There's just so much corruption, collusion and corporate capture. And it's all real. Like, I’ve lived it." [04:59, Brigham Buhler]
"If you have a fish tank and all the fish are getting sick, you don't blame the fish. You drain the tank." [54:03, Health Care Entrepreneur]
"Most modern day medical professionals have zero nutritional training and we know for a fact food is medicine or food is poison..." [33:51, Health Care Entrepreneur]
"If we are fundamentally connected to this cosmic message... we are allowing it to be slowly cooked off in the modern world of ultra processed foods." [30:51, Jesse]
"If you make your North Star money, maybe you’ll find money—but at what cost? If we make our North Star people and helping people and driving change, nobody can stop us." [62:33, Health Care Entrepreneur]
"I don't have all the answers, but I do know if we can drive healthspan, we can extend lifespan." [83:41, Health Care Entrepreneur]
“The autism rate…in California…1 in 12.5 kids.” [68:23, Health Care Entrepreneur]

Key Timestamps for Important Segments

00:00–02:24 — Dystopian health and society parallels
02:25–05:17 — Rockefeller, Flexner Report, and AMA/Big Pharma origins
05:17–07:54 — Human experiments: Japan, Germany, pharmaceutical war crimes
11:11–13:11 — Monsanto, Agent Orange, glyphosate, and multi-generational damage
16:31–18:25 — Corporate links to UFO secrecy (Bechtel, Monsanto, CIA)
19:35–26:57 — Suppressed electromagnetic/frequency therapies and DNA as cosmic message
36:04–38:14 — Scientific-industrial complex stifling innovation
41:06–41:40 — COVID, bioweapons, and government research
52:08–55:48 — Preventable chronic diseases and failures of “sick care”
55:24–58:40 — Community, loneliness, meaning, and holistic health
62:00–63:38 — Corrupted medical academia; need for people-first incentives
65:42–67:04 — Alternative media, public oversight, and conflicts of interest
68:20–69:49 — Vaccine skepticism and rising autism rates
79:25–80:09 — Practical advice: autonomy, personalized care, breaking out of the system
87:10–88:35 — Hope for actual healthcare, scaling, and aligned incentives

Final Takeaways

The modern U.S. health system is the product of a century’s worth of deliberate corporate capture, reinforced by policy, centralized control, and information suppression.
Profit—and not prevention—has shaped treatment, research funding, and clinician incentives.
There is hope for systemic change: alternative media, patient advocacy, and holistic or functional medicine offer tangible paths forward.
The intersection of questions about human origins (UFOs, cosmic DNA), consciousness, and health point to a deeper, still-repressed vision of human flourishing—one undermined when health is monetized and innovation is systematically stifled.

Practical Advice (summarized):

Seek proactive, predictive, and preventative care; don’t settle for symptom management.
Consider holistic clinics that personalize treatments and use comprehensive biomarker testing.
Take ownership of your health through diet, lifestyle, and self-education—don’t wait for institutional reform.
Maintain critical thinking regarding both mainstream and fringe health advice.
Build meaningful social connections for both mental and physical well-being.

This summary retains the rich, candid tone and complexity of the episode, providing context and clarity for listeners new to “American Alchemy.”

UFOs, Human Experiments & Rockefeller's Dystopian Health System (ft. Brigham Buhler)

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Podcast Summary: American Alchemy

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dystopian Parallels: Fiction vs. Reality

2. The Origins of a Dystopian Health System

3. Institutional Corruption & Corporate Capture

4. Human Experimentation: War & Medicine

5. The Big Pharma–CIA–Monsanto Nexus

6. UFOs, Majestic 12, and the Rockefeller Connection

7. Suppressed Medical Innovations

8. DNA Mysteries, Ancient Knowledge, and Cosmic Origins

9. A System Built to Perpetuate Sickness

10. Bioweapons, Gain-of-Function, and COVID

11. Community, Loneliness, and Mental Health

12. Information Control, Censorship, and New Media

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Key Timestamps for Important Segments

Final Takeaways

Practical Advice (summarized):

Summary

Podcast Summary: American Alchemy

Episode Overview

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Dystopian Parallels: Fiction vs. Reality

2. The Origins of a Dystopian Health System

3. Institutional Corruption & Corporate Capture

4. Human Experimentation: War & Medicine

5. The Big Pharma–CIA–Monsanto Nexus

6. UFOs, Majestic 12, and the Rockefeller Connection

7. Suppressed Medical Innovations

8. DNA Mysteries, Ancient Knowledge, and Cosmic Origins

9. A System Built to Perpetuate Sickness

10. Bioweapons, Gain-of-Function, and COVID

11. Community, Loneliness, and Mental Health

12. Information Control, Censorship, and New Media

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

Key Timestamps for Important Segments

Final Takeaways

Practical Advice (summarized):