American Alchemy Podcast with Jesse Michels

Episode: “We Found A UFO At The Bottom Of The Baltic Sea!”

Guest: Dennis Asberg (Swedish treasure hunter & co-founder of the Ocean X team)
Date: November 15, 2025

Episode Overview

In this gripping episode, Jesse Michels interviews famed Swedish treasure hunter Dennis Asberg, co-discoverer of the infamous Baltic Sea Anomaly—a mysterious underwater formation that many believe may represent an Unidentified Submersible Object (USO). From underwater electromagnetic anomalies and government surveillance to near-supernatural accounts, Dennis details his team’s decade-plus investigation into one of the most enigmatic mysteries hidden beneath the Baltic Sea. The discussion ranges from technical accounts of the anomaly, personal UFO experiences, and the implications of government interest and global skepticism.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Discovery of the Baltic Sea Anomaly

• Initial Find ([11:27–14:45])
  • In June 2011, while searching for a shipwreck with champagne, Dennis, Peter Lindberg, and another colleague detected a massive 60-meter wide circular object using side-scan sonar.
  • “This huge thing...60 meter in diameter and it's round and you have this track at the bottom...Nobody else have seen anything like that before.” —Dennis, [13:23]
  • Immediate speculation: UFO or manmade structure, based on size and geometry, with flat walls and 90-degree corridors.
• Public Exposure ([14:57–17:43])
  • Data was shared with experts in the US, Australia, and Europe—all stumped.
  • Went public to attract experts, resulting in international media attention and relentless press inquiries.

2. The Anomaly’s Physical Characteristics

• Shape and Structure ([19:10–23:32])
  • The anomaly features corridors and walls with perfect right angles; holes framed at the edges, and areas of pitch-black coloration under sediments.
  • “...You have corridors with angles and you have also holes in it. A hole with like 2 meters in diameter with a frame around it.” —Dennis, [19:10]
  • Consensus among the team and outside experts: “...it looks constructed; we have never seen anything like that,” —Dennis, [19:37]
• Not Attached to Seabed ([41:18–41:29]; [52:41–53:02])
  • Sub-bottom profiling and sonar suggest the object is separated from the seafloor.
  • “It looks like it's separated from the bottom. That's what I can say.” —Dennis, [41:22]

3. Anomalous Phenomena & Equipment Malfunctions

• Technical Failures ([20:03–23:32])
  • GPS, radar, cameras, ROVs, and lights frequently malfunction near the anomaly.
  • Magnetic and electromagnetic disturbances intensify with proximity.
  • “...Every time we are there, even now in June... same problem. Equipment malfunction, everything.” —Dennis, [21:39]
• Electromagnetic “Power Line” Effects ([28:59–30:30])
  • Finnish ROV operators likened the anomaly’s energy signature to that of a power line.
  • “It looks like a power line. It’s putting out energy of some kind.” —Dennis, [28:59]
• Other Physical Oddities ([24:25–25:06]; [30:07–30:31])
  • Temperature drops near the object—at depth, water nearly freezing.
  • White, milky material “breathing” through a hole in the structure.
  • Frequent thunderstorms and lightning strikes directly over the anomaly.
    • “Thunder and lots of things just on the spot.” —Dennis, [30:13]; “We have filmed that also.” —Dennis, [30:32]

4. Biological & Geological Samples

• Failed Sample Extraction ([23:46–24:25])
  • Material too hard to obtain proper core samples; diver attempts unsuccessful.
• Composition ([59:59–60:43]; [82:58–83:44])
  • Some material found to be basalt (volcanic origin), which does not naturally occur in the Baltic.
  • Organic and burnt biological substances detected on scraped samples.
    • “It was organic. Boned. Metro.” —Dennis, [82:58]
    • “Nothing. It's Dead Sea, so...But this had biological material.” —Dennis, [83:41]

5. Government & Military Involvement

• Military Surveillance ([44:12–46:59])
  • Multiple government ships from Sweden and NATO countries observed “lurking” during Ocean X dives.
  • “Six, seven ships. Wow. Big ships.” —Dennis, [45:36]; “Swedish authorities, French and German, American, British ships around us.” —Dennis, [44:31]
  • Military personnel denied knowledge but admitted to filming the team.
    • “But I'm filming you. I have filmed you, so I know you have been there. Nothing. You don't say anything.” —Dennis relaying a HQ official, [48:00]

6. Theories and Skepticism

• Dennis’s Theories ([56:09–57:17])
  • Could be an extremely ancient artificial structure, possible USO, or even a pre-Ice Age temple.
• Ruling Out Alternatives ([56:09–56:20])
  • Dismissed volcanic, meteorite, or asteroid origins due to structure and lack of a crater.
  • “It's standing up as if it's an artificial structure.” —Jesse, [56:17]
• Remote Viewing Results ([33:23–34:40])
  • Remote viewers described it as a constructed, high-voltage energy source.

7. Personal History and Encounters

• Dennis’s UFO Sighting (1996) ([62:59–70:16])
  • Before the anomaly, Dennis had little UFO interest. A “life-changing” close encounter near a military installation spurred his curiosity.
  • “It was something very, very strange.” —Dennis, [67:15]
  • Led him to reevaluate life’s meaning and pursue mysteries beyond conventional science.
• Philosophy and Motivation ([73:25–74:45])
  • The search for truth and evidence supersedes the need for fame or money.
  • “I have always been interested in finding things that nobody else have found.” —Dennis, [74:45]

8. Threats and Obstacles

• Pushback and Threats ([85:20–86:18])
  • Dennis received threats against his safety and family, efforts to intimidate him into stopping his research.
  • “They said that we know about your son there and daughter there... to make me to stop.” —Dennis, [85:44]
  • Some accused him of “opening a gateway to hell.” —Dennis, [86:18]

9. Next Steps and Future Plans

• Further Scientific Analysis ([41:50–42:28]; [84:04–84:28])
  • Planning core drilling for material samples, Geiger counter readings, and more advanced equipment use.
  • Hope to involve a video crew for transparency and safety.
• Ultimate Goal ([61:32–61:34]; [98:51–99:04])
  • “The truth. That's the only thing.” —Dennis, [61:32]
  • Dennis wants any discovery, even if mundane, openly shared with the world.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Confirmation of anomaly’s odd structure and effects:

  • “The radar showing things that should not be are not there.” —Dennis, [20:41]
  • “So it interferes with radio signals, changes compasses, messes with the subsea drone and rover.” —Jesse, [23:19]

• Skeptic’s perspective flipped:

  • “The first thing when he coming down there is, okay, this is...This must be man made. This is constructed.” —Finnish ROV operator via Dennis, [26:54]

• On personal impact:

  • “That was probably the most important dive I've ever done in my life. And I've done maybe 6,000 dives in my life.” —Dennis recounting diver’s words, [59:15]

• On government surveillance:

  • “We have filmed that also.” —Dennis re: lightning over anomaly, [30:32]
  • “But I'm filming you. I have filmed you, so I know you have been there. Nothing. You don't say anything.” —Swedish HQ official, [48:00]

• On meaning and search for truth:

  • “I want to do it...continue to find the answer without the military or the governments.” —Dennis, [98:44]
  • “For humanity, for the world, for the future, for my kids, grandkids and so on.” —Dennis, [98:55]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• [00:57–02:13] – Introduction to the Baltic Sea anomaly
• [11:27–17:43] – Discovery and sharing with the world
• [19:10–23:32] – Descriptions of the anomaly’s geometry
• [23:46–25:06] – Details on biological/material anomalies
• [26:00–28:59] – Skeptical Finnish colleagues turned believers
• [28:59–30:30] – Power emission and weather phenomena
• [41:13–42:28] – Sample plans and discussion of equipment
• [44:12–46:59] – Navy, coast guard, and NATO ship presence
• [52:41–53:02] – Seabed separation via sonar profiling
• [62:59–70:16] – Dennis’s formative UFO encounter
• [79:13–83:44] – Transmedium UAPs and biological sample results
• [85:20–86:18] – Threats and personal repercussions
• [98:44–99:04] – Dennis’s mission for openness and truth

Tone and Style

Throughout the conversation, both Jesse and Dennis are candid, serious, and deeply curious—driven by a desire for genuine answers rather than sensationalism. Dennis comes across as humble, methodical, and resilient in the face of skepticism and even threats. Both express an openness to mystery and the transformative potential of anomalous encounters.

Final Thoughts

Dennis Asberg’s journey with the Baltic Sea anomaly is a nuanced blend of thrill-seeking adventure, hard science, existential questioning, and perseverance against both human and technical obstacles. The episode not only documents a mystery beneath the Baltic Sea, but captures the emotional, philosophical, and societal currents that surround high-strangeness phenomena in our modern world.