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Lindsey Graham (0:00)
Hi, this is Lindsey Graham, host of American Scandal. Our back catalog has moved behind a paywall. Recent episodes remain free, but older ones will require a Wondery plus subscription. With Wondery, you get access to the full American scandal archive ad free, plus early access to new seasons and more. Join Wondery plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. It's June 1969 in a federal courtroom in Houston, Texas. Attorney Chauncey Eskridge is sitting at the defendant's table, flipping through his notes on a legal pad while he waits for the judge to return from recess. Two years ago, in this very courtroom, Eskridge's client, Muhammad Ali, was tried and convicted for refusing to be inducted into the US Armed Forces. Ali appealed his conviction all the way up to the Supreme Court, and the case should have been decided there. But an unexpected discovery was made. During deliberations, it was revealed that while Ali's original petition for deferral was under review, the FBI secretly recorded several private conversations between Ali and people under FBI surveillance, including Martin Luther King Jr. And Ali's spiritual advisor, Elijah Muhammad. And because these wiretaps were done without a warrant, they were illegal and a violation of Ali's civil rights. So the Supreme Court remanded the case back to this Houston courtroom for a hearing to determine if Ali's conviction was in any way influenced by information from those illegally recorded phone calls. For the past several days, various FBI agents have testified to describe the contents of the wiretapped conversations. And now, based on their testimony, Eskridge needs to convince the judge that the conviction was tainted. If he succeeds, Ali will walk free. But if he fails, then Ali's conviction will stand, and the most famous boxer in the world will likely have to go to prison. Eskridge looks up to see the bailiff enter and announce that Judge Joe Ingraham is returning from his chambers. Everyone rises as the judge enters. He then takes his place at the front of the courtroom and tells Eskridge to start his final argument. Eskridge takes a sip of water, checks his notes, and then stands.
Chauncey Eskridge (2:28)
Your Honor, I'd like to return to something you said earlier when discussing the wiretapped conversations. You characterized them as innocuous. You also said that nothing in them could have influenced the Department of Justice to recommend against granting my client an exemption. But that's not true. I would like to call your attention to the conversation from March 1964 between my client and the late Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. What part of this conversation? At one point, my client tells Dr. King, quote, watch out for them whities before hanging up. That sounds to me like a joke. Your client is well known for remarks like that. He does like to joke around. But the Department of Justice might have taken it the wrong way. That might have contributed to their belief that Ali was prejudiced against white people. And that in turn might have influenced their claim that Ali's reasons for avoiding the draft were political, not moral or religious. Mr. Eskridge, your client's religion has a long track record of anti white statements. Not the religion, just a few individuals. And that's just what the media reports. Regardless, those statements are out there and likely contributed far more than one stray joke. But this was a private conversation. And I'd also like to remind you that the racial composition of the draft boards is an issue in this case. And saying watch out for them whiteies might have biased the draft board against Ali. Counsel, these complaints about the race of the draft board seem even weaker. You could never have perfectly proportional representation. No one is asking for perfect representation, just some representation. There is only one black person on any draft board in the entire state of Kentucky, and none on the one that ruled against my client. Fine. But there's no evidence that the DOJ lawyers who wrote the letter to the draft board even saw the FBI transcripts, much less were influenced by them. But we can't know that. And that's the point. If there's even a possibility of them consulting any illegally gathered evidence, then the letter was tainted. And everything that happened after that, including my client's conviction, is tainted as well.
