Americast – Americanswers on 5 Live!

Episode Date: November 3, 2025
Hosts: Sarah Smith, Anthony Zurcher, Marianna Spring, with Matt Chorley (BBC 5 Live)
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A crucial week in American politics, covering the upcoming elections in New York, Virginia, and New Jersey, the political implications of Prince Andrew’s Epstein connections for Americans, Trump’s nuclear testing rhetoric, and legal scrutiny of his trade tariffs.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NYC Mayoral Race: Zoran Mamdani and the American Left (03:20–11:21)

• Context: Zoran Mamdani, self-described "democratic socialist", is front-runner for New York Mayor. UK listener asks: would Mamdani seem extreme by British standards, or is it a US perception?
• Sarah Smith’s Take (03:20):
  • Quote: "Here, socialism means the opposite of capitalism... Basically it means communism in America."
  • In the UK, Mamdani would seem left of Keir Starmer, maybe akin to Jeremy Corbyn, but not "extreme." In the US, the term "socialist" is seen as radical, even synonymous with communism.
  • His policies—free buses, childcare, rent freezing, and ‘tax the rich’—mirror positions seen in UK center-left politics.
• Anthony Zurcher on Mamdani's Appeal (05:43):
  • NYC is significantly more left than the broader US.
  • Mamdani connects with young people and ethnic minorities, especially Muslim voters.
  • Quote: "He is focused like a laser on... the higher cost of living [in NYC]."
  • His identity (Muslim, African-born) and outsider status provoke right-wing distrust, but among voters his economic message resonates.
  • Stays focused on the economy, sidesteps divisive cultural issues like Israel-Gaza.
• Marianna Spring on Social Media Strategy (07:44):
  • Mamdani excels at "authentic, genuine" content; builds an Internet presence that feels real (unlike perceptions of Kamala Harris).
  • Draws parallels with UK Green Party’s Zach Polanski.
  • Viral clips—like club nights—circulate among those likely to vote for him.
  • Quote: "He is bossing the Internet with capital letters."
• Nationwide Attention (08:50):
  • Most Americans aren’t following the race, but Mamdani’s profile could grow if Trump uses him as a "radical" foil for Democrats.
• Jeremy Corbyn’s Involvement (10:11):
  • Corbyn held a phone bank to support Mamdani—seen both as endorsement and proof of transatlantic left-wing networking.
  • Marianna: Corbyn once adept at social media but less so now.

2. Republican Party Ideological Shift: Trumpism vs. Conservatism (11:32–14:26)

• Caller Joel’s Question: Has the GOP permanently shifted from "small government and fiscal restraint" to Trump-style politics? If Trump left, would the party revert?
• Anthony Zurcher’s Perspective (12:10):
  • Quote: "There’s not much of the old Republican Party left."
  • Trump has reshaped the party into a working-class, culturally conservative coalition, willing to use big government for conservative aims.
  • Trump-aligned figures like Senator J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio have shifted with him.
  • This marks a genuine political realignment.
• Sarah Smith’s Observation (13:17):
  • Trump’s coalition includes working-class Black, Hispanic, and white voters, a winning alliance the GOP is unlikely to abandon.
  • Hard to see the rise of a "Mitt Romney-style" fiscal conservative any time soon, even as Trump runs up deficits.
  • Party’s future depends on who succeeds Trump, but the base is entrenched.

3. Prince Andrew, Epstein, and Congressional Scrutiny (14:26–18:29)

• Jane’s Voice Note: Is the US paying attention to the Epstein scandal after the UK stripped Andrew of his titles?
• Marianna Spring (15:18):
  • MAGA and far-right circles keep Epstein discussions alive online, but focus fades fast after real-world developments like Andrew losing royal status.
  • Quote: “Often it’s not the things you think that trigger that conversation... but actually it almost feels like the sort of result of a lot of discussion.”
• Matt Chorley (16:27): Over in Congress, some suggest subpoenaing Andrew. Is it realistic?
• Anthony Zurcher (16:45):
  • Quote: “Not realistic... Even people here often ignore [congressional subpoenas], and only very rarely does that lead to criminal charges.”
  • The DOJ would be unlikely to pursue Andrew across borders, and extradition is improbable.
  • However, if Arizona’s Rep. Grijalva is seated, a House vote could force release of Epstein files, potentially revealing much more.
  • UK royals have faced real consequences; the US political class, not (yet).

4. Trump’s Nuclear Test Rhetoric (18:29–22:14)

• Listener Questions: Trump told CBS he might resume US nuclear testing. Is he serious? Is it about posturing?
• Clip:
  • Trump (18:41): “We’re the only country that doesn’t test. And I don’t want to be the only country that doesn’t test.”
  • Mariana Spring notes: Only N. Korea is actually testing currently.
  • Trump (19:04): “Russia’s testing nuclear weapons. And China’s testing them too. You just don’t know about it.”
• Sarah Smith (19:33):
  • Unclear if Trump means live nuclear explosions or just missile testing.
  • Quote: “To be honest, it all sounds a little bit juvenile, but that’s to underplay something that could be quite, quite important.”
• Anthony Zurcher (20:45):
  • “It’s all just kind of a muddled mess... maybe he doesn’t know what he means by this.”
  • Trump often floats policies with vague, bombastic statements that later get walked back or fizzle out.
• Marianna Spring (22:19):
  • Few Americans want any "nuclear apocalypse."
  • Conspiracy-driven feeds extrapolate doomsday scenarios, while most just want to avoid escalation.

5. Trump’s Political Support: Hidden Voters, Approval, and Immigration (23:19–29:05)

• Lizzie’s Question: Are Trump supporters really “shy” voters, or is this a media narrative? If so, why?
• Anthony Zurcher (23:41):
  • Trump overperforms polls—could be polling flaws or secret support.
  • When Trump isn’t on the ballot, GOP does worse.
  • “Trump ends up being stronger at the ballot box than he is in the polls leading up to Election Day.”
• Sarah Smith (24:47):
  • Trump’s die-hards are extremely visible—apparel, store-fronts, public displays—unlike any previous US leader.
  • “There is a level of worship as well as support from real MAGA die-hards, the like of which I’ve never actually seen for anybody else.”
• Polling on Policy (26:06):
  • Trump’s approval is slipping (40–42%), especially on the economy and inflation (>50% disapprove).
  • However, immigration policy scores higher approval.
  • Americans give Trump credit for border enforcement, despite controversial raids and detentions.

6. Supreme Court & Trump’s Tariffs (29:05–33:18)

• Background: The Supreme Court is set to hear arguments on the legality of Trump’s authority to set trade tariffs unilaterally.
• Anthony Zurcher (29:47):
  • Lower courts found Trump overreached; the Constitution says Congress sets tariffs, not the President.
  • Biden’s student loan and environmental policies were struck down for similar reasons.
  • Expedited process—a decision could come quickly.
• Sarah Smith (31:45):
  • Skepticism that a conservative court that checked Biden will restrain Trump—“still, it is possible... they could say that Donald Trump did not have the power.”
  • If the court rules against Trump, he’d need Congressional approval, a heavy lift due to filibuster rules in the Senate.
• Outcome: Opening arguments start this week; any judgment will come later.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Sarah Smith (03:20):
  “Here, socialism means the opposite of capitalism... Basically it means communism in America.”
• Anthony Zurcher (12:10):
  “There’s not much of the old Republican Party left.”
• Marianna Spring (07:52):
  “He is bossing the Internet with capital letters.”
• Anthony Zurcher (16:45):
  “Not realistic... Even people here often ignore [congressional subpoenas]...”
• Sarah Smith (19:33):
  “To be honest, it all sounds a little bit juvenile, but that’s to underplay something that could be quite, quite important.”
• Sarah Smith (24:47):
  “There is a level of worship as well as support from real MAGA die-hards, the like of which I’ve never actually seen for anybody else.”

Important Timestamps

• NYC Mayoral Race: 03:20–11:21
• GOP Realignment: 11:32–14:26
• Epstein/Prince Andrew File Handling: 14:26–18:29
• Trump’s Nuclear Testing Comments: 18:29–22:14
• Trump's Electoral Popularity: 23:19–29:05
• Supreme Court Tariff Powers: 29:05–33:18

Tone & Style

Balanced, analytical, occasionally wry. Hosts mix expert insight with humor and sharp metaphors. Direct quotes often convey the panel's dry wit and incisive comparisons, making complex politics accessible without dumbing down.

For Listeners Who Haven’t Tuned In

This episode serves as an in-depth primer on the intersection of American and British political culture, the remaking of the GOP, transatlantic scandals, Trumpian unpredictability, and the quirks of contemporary polling and social media-driven politics. It’s an authoritative yet conversational walk through the biggest stories shaping US news—useful, engaging, and often entertaining.