Americast x The Global Story: What’s Really Behind Trump’s Foreign Policy?

Podcast: Americast (BBC News)
Episode: Introducing The Global Story… what’s really behind Trump’s foreign policy?
Date: January 18, 2026

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This special crossover episode investigates the driving force behind the Trump administration’s foreign policy: Is it a sharp break with the past or a return to older traditions? By tracing U.S. global ambitions from the Monroe Doctrine through the rise of the American century and into today’s “America First” approach, BBC correspondents untangle whether Trump’s vision is isolationist, expansionist, or something new entirely.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Defining America's Role: Spheres of Influence

• Contradictory Actions: Recent U.S. actions under Trump—like intervention in Venezuela, talk of acquiring Greenland, and support for Iranian pro-democracy protesters—seem to conflict with traditional isolationist rhetoric. ([02:13])
• “Sphere of Influence”: The episode explores what this term means and whether its boundaries are geographic, cultural, or purely pragmatic.
  • Tristan Redman questions: “Is it a geographical area? Is it your immediate neighborhood or your hemisphere, or is it a grouping of linguistically or culturally similar countries?” ([05:29])

2. Trump’s Approach vs. Traditional U.S. Foreign Policy

• A Shift from Idealism to Self-Interest:
  • Past presidents invoked democracy and human rights; Trump centers economic interests and U.S. power.
  • Example: Trump administration’s control over Venezuelan oil sales: “You’re allowed to sell the oil so long as you serve America’s national interest.” ([08:02], J.D. Vance quoted on Fox News)
• Nostalgia for Expansionist Eras:
  • Trump and his advisors often reference the Monroe Doctrine and leaders like McKinley and Roosevelt. There’s admiration for a period when the U.S. was “ascending” and unashamed about flexing its power. ([19:07])

3. Historical Evolution of U.S. Foreign Policy

George Washington and Non-Entanglement

• Early Reluctance: George Washington advised against permanent alliances, wary of European conflicts.
  • Anthony Zuercher: “He saw Europe that was rife with conflict... He was wary of the United States getting pulled into that.” ([10:45])

The Monroe Doctrine (1823)

• Assertion of Regional Control: Declared the Western Hemisphere off-limits to European interference—a bold and prescient move, albeit unenforceable at the time.
  • Zuercher: “It was a declaration... that the entirety of the Western Hemisphere was off limits to European power influence.” ([12:18])
  • Prescience: “The fact that we’re still talking about the Monroe Doctrine 200 years after it was rolled out does show that there was a certain amount of foresight to it.” ([13:29])

Manifest Destiny and Expansionism

• Religious and Ideological Zeal: A belief in the “destiny” of America to expand, underpinned by the idea of a special mission.
  • Zuercher: “Manifest Destiny... by dint of divine providence or the power of its ideals, had this obligation to expand across the continent.” ([14:25])

Late 19th - Early 20th Century: McKinley & Roosevelt

• From Idea to Muscle: U.S. expands influence militarily and economically—acquiring overseas territories, building the Panama Canal, and becoming the Western Hemisphere’s “policeman.”
  • Zuercher: “Roosevelt... built a dozen 15 new battleships... created a corollary to the Monroe Doctrine... the United States had an active role as the hemisphere’s policemen.” ([16:01])
• Modern-Day Nostalgia: Trump admires this era, referencing McKinley as when the U.S. was “at our best in terms of financially.” ([18:31])

Post-World War II: The American Century

• Global Leadership and Structure-Building: U.S. creates new global institutions (NATO, UN), spreads democracy, and intervenes worldwide.
  • Zuercher: “I don’t think there was a corner of the globe at that point that the United States didn’t involve itself in.” ([20:51])

Nixon, Kissinger, and Pragmatism

• Shift to Realpolitik:
  • Kissinger exemplified a practical, interest-based approach, supporting unsavory regimes if in alignment with U.S. goals, and orchestrating historic moves like opening to China.
  • Zuercher: “The United States was more than willing during the Nixon years to support bad governments and bad people and topple democratically elected governments that... were not aligned with American interests.” ([24:13])

4. The Trump Doctrine: What’s New, What’s Old?

• Breaking with Postwar Idealism:
  • Rejection of alliances and free trade for a more transactional, competitive foreign policy.
  • America First Policy Institute view: Current shifts are a “clear eyed re-evaluation of the world as it is now.” ([22:48])
• Selective Spheres:
  • Clear retreat from certain areas (e.g., Ukraine), emphasis on the Western Hemisphere, but with ideological elements about leading Western Civilization.
  • Anthony Zuercher: “You are already seeing the Trump administration try to disentangle itself from Ukraine… Geographically... the Western Hemisphere as the United States sphere of influence, from Canada and Greenland all the way down to Patagonia and Argentina.” ([27:21])
  • At times, U.S. justifies broader involvement through ideals of defending “Western civilization.” ([28:42] - Miller speech at Charlie Kirk’s memorial)

5. Risks of “Mission Creep” and Military Overreach

• Temptation of Power: Successful operations (e.g., Venezuela) may fuel further military interventions, risking overreach.
  • Tristan Redman: “Mission creep is a bit of a tricky thing to combat against, and you can pretty much define the national interest however you want.” ([29:19])
  • Zuercher: “There is a very real danger... the United States... starts thinking, well, maybe we can just annex Greenland... or maybe we should start getting more involved…just because it’s a belief in one’s infallibility.” ([30:23])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Anthony Zuercher, on the Trump worldview:
  “This is a much more pragmatic, cold, clear eyed view of international relations. It’s trying to abandon or move away from idealism and sentimentality in foreign policy.” ([09:30])

• Stephen Miller (quoted), on power:
  “We live in a world in the real world, Jake, that is governed by strength, that is governed by force, that is governed by power. These are the iron laws of the world.” ([09:14])

• On the Monroe Doctrine’s legacy:
  “It was pretty audacious for an American president that wasn’t even controlling all of its territory at the time... But I also think it was prescient.” – Anthony Zuercher ([13:29])

• Modern nostalgia for the expansionist era:
  “There is a very real nostalgia for that period in time… an ascendant United States that had big ambitions and was willing to do big things, take new territory, project power.” – Anthony Zuercher ([19:07])

• Sphere of influence as exclusion:
  “Maybe the U.S. sphere of influence... is kind of everything in the world except some clearly defined places that it’s not interested [in].” – Tristan Redman ([06:25])

• On risk of overreach:
  “The U.S. military is a very big, very shiny, and very powerful instrument, and the temptation for any president… is to use it.” – Tristan Redman ([29:19])
  “Success against Venezuela or success bombing Iran [may not] translate into success against a major global power.” – Anthony Zuercher ([30:23])

Timeline of Important Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Quote | |---------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:31 | Anthony Zuercher introduces the special episode | | 02:13 | The contradiction in Trump’s supposed isolationism | | 05:17 | Defining “sphere of influence” | | 07:25 | Trump’s shift from democracy/human rights to economic interest | | 09:14 | Stephen Miller: “Iron laws of the world” | | 10:45 | Early U.S. foreign policy (Washington’s warnings) | | 12:18 | Monroe Doctrine explained | | 14:25 | Manifest Destiny and the American expansionist mindset | | 16:01 | McKinley, Roosevelt, and the emergence of American muscle | | 18:31 | Trump’s admiration for McKinley and the expansionist era | | 20:51 | The “American Century” and the global U.S. sphere post-WWII | | 22:48 | Trump admin seen as “clear-eyed re-evaluation” of alliances and institutions | | 24:13 | Nixon, Kissinger, and modern pragmatism | | 27:21 | Trump administration’s current view on spheres of influence | | 28:42 | “Saving Western civilization” – ideological justification for broader involvement | | 29:19 | Warning about mission creep and military overreach | | 30:23 | Zuercher on historical overreach and risks for the present |

Engaging Takeaways

• Trump’s foreign policy is both an echo of expansionist American tradition and a break from postwar idealism and alliances.
• Debates about “spheres of influence” remain fraught—sometimes defined by exclusion more than inclusion.
• The “America First” lens entails increased military assertiveness and greater willingness to offend allies, risking overreach.
• The nostalgia for America’s “golden age” fuels both economic and military ambitions, as well as a return to grandstanding rhetoric.
• U.S. global engagement—whether idealistic or ruthless—remains inherently complex, and the episode warns about the temptation for any superpower to overextend when flush with success.

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