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Trump's big, long, State of the Union speech
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Can the president’s record breaking speech change voters’ minds ahead of the midterms?
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
Visit rkbeverages.com it is 11 o' clock at night here in Washington, 4 o' clock in the morning in the UK and Donald Trump has just finished delivering the longest ever State of the Union address. An hour and 48 minutes of him telling us all the great things he says he's done for America in the last 12 months and telling voters they really ought to be very happy with what he's done for them.
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Donald Trump
Our country is winning again. In fact, we're winning so much that we really don't know what to do about it. People are asking me, please, please, please, Mr. President, we're winning too much. We can't take it anymore. We're not used to winning in our country until you came along with just always losing. But now we're winning too much. And I say, no, no, no, you're going to win again. You're going to win big. You're going to win bigger than ever. And to prove that point, to prove that point, here with us tonight is a group of winners who just made the entire nation proud, the men's gold medal Olympic hockey team. Come on in.
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
Okay, the speech is just over and we are assembling and I promise we'll get to the hockey players later on, but not before we break down the rest of the speech. What it tells us about where Donald Trump wants to take the United States now. Welcome to americast.
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Donald Trump
You hear that sound? Oh, I think when I hear that sound, it reminds me of money.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
Nicolas Maduro yeffed around and he found
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
out this is a big cover up and this administration is engaged in it. This guy has Trump derangement Syndrome.
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Donald Trump
I have four words for you. Turn the volume up.
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
Hello, it's Justin in the worldwide headquarters of AmericasT in London, England.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
Hello, it's Sarah in the BBC's bureau in Washington.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
And it's Anthony. I am at the Capitol, just off of the floor of the House of Representatives, where Donald Trump finished Speaking, what, about 20 minutes ago?
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
Yeah, fantastic. We are all gathered at just twenty past four in the morning in London and obviously it's late evening for you and you have, both of you, in your own ways, seen what Donald Trump has said. I suppose we should start with why it matters, because I think a lot of these set pieces, events in the modern era, people say, oh, it's just going to be clips. Nobody actually watches the thing itself. I mean, number one, Anthony, you were there. Does it have the electricity that previous States of the Union used to have?
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
I mean, there's still electricity, there's pageantry, there's the announcement as the President comes in and everyone from his party stands up and cheer. And we'll say the Republicans cheered a lot. They were very vocal, they were very animated. They wanted to will Donald Trump's support up Democrats, the ones who did show up, and there were some notable absences, but they sat icily, they were quiet. There was a real tension in the room throughout the speech and there were moments where a few of the Democrats actually kind of shouted back at Donald Trump. So, yeah, yeah, there was pageantry, there was animation, but there was also a certain amount of partisan tension.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
It is, I think, one of the biggest audiences for a political event like this that you get in the whole of the political year, I think, isn't it, Anthony? Actually, millions of Americans do tune in to watch this happening, although many of them only listen to the first 30 minutes. And with that in mind, I was kind of carefully having a look at what turned up in the first half hour, because not everybody's got almost two hours to sacrifice to this. And he hit all of the main points that he would want to deliver in some kind of campaign speech or something. They were all there in the first half hour, him saying that he had transitioned the country from the disastrous state he claims it was in when he took over from Joe Biden to now the hottest country in the world. His boasts about the economy, about cutting taxes, about reducing prices and about having closed the border. And no, he said zero illegal immigrants had entered the United States during the last year. All of that was pretty crisply delivered in the first half hour. So if people started switching over their television sets, at that point, they will have got what he wanted them to hear from it.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
Yeah, a State of the Union's audience tends to run in the tens of millions. Even 30 million, I think is recently about what it hit. So there's a big audience for it. And yes, Donald Trump made his sales pitch. He talked about all of his accomplishments. And maybe that's familiar for us who listen to Donald Trump all the time. It's certainly similar to what Donald Trump said in his speech to the nation from the White House just last month. But I don't know whether Americans who are, who are not happy with the direction of the country will be convinced by another recitation of facts and talking about how great things are going well.
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
And on that, let's drill down into some of the things he said, because specifically on the economy, we've said this before, but just really struck me listening to it, Sarah, all the stuff about the economy and there are some prices that have genuinely come down rather than just going up a little less than they used to go up. But for most Americans, when you look at the polling, it is plain that they still think the cost of living, affordability, as it's called in America, is too high and that inflation is too high in things that matter to them. And it just struck me when you listen to him telling them how wonderful the economy was, et cetera, et cetera, it was the echo of Joe Biden, who did exactly the same thing. And it didn't work for him.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
Exactly. Joe Biden tried to tell people that actually they were much better off than they felt, that the economy was going a lot better than they had experienced. And of course, the, they weren't listening to him because they know what they think the economy is doing when they go to the grocery store, when they fill up their car with petrol, and when they do any of these things, they have a very accurate read on what the economy is doing for them. So there is a limit to how often Donald Trump can say inflation has plummeted, prices are coming down, wages are going up, all of which were not entirely accurate. He was exaggerating a bit when it came to these things. But there's no point in telling people that they ought to feel better off if they don't feel better off later, though, and I thought this was cleverer. He did come to some ways in which working people on lower incomes are going to be helped by policies that are coming in, like stopping Wall street investment firms from buying up single family homes to turn them into rentals in order to try and make housing affordable for people who wanted to buy their first homes. And highlighting even with a guest that he had in there with him, how cutting the tax on tips, cutting the tax on overtime increase, increasing child tax credits mean that some working class families, like the mum who was there in the chamber with him, are saving up to $5,000 a year. So he had some specific ways in which his government are trying to tackle affordability. But as a wider message, just to say to people, look, you've never had it so good basically isn't going to work if it doesn't chime with their lived experience.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
When you talk to Republicans, that's one of the things they say, they say just wait, just wait till tax time. And all of these tax cuts that they passed last year start to be felt by the American public. And that is going to change their mood, which, well, maybe, you know, we also heard from Biden saying just, just wait. You know, prosperity and better polling is just around the corners. But, you know, you touched on a few of the things that Donald Trump proposed today, trying to lower the cost of housing. He also came up with some, some kind of a retirement plan for people who don't get retirement plans from their employers that they could take part in, although I'm not sure about the legality of that. But those were just sprinklings. They were just little dashes of new ideas dropped here and there. I'm not sure that there's a lot there that Republicans who are in that chamber who are going to have to run for reelection in November can say, okay, this is the platform that we're going to run on. This is what we're going to sell to the American public that we can do that will make their lives better. And it's more of just convince the voters that things are actually pretty good.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
Yeah.
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
And on that, Anthony, there are also some things in there, some of the more populous things that Donald Trump, you almost feel him, don't you, being tempted to do that other Republicans don't want to do. And he couldn't get through Congress anyway, which is true, isn't it?
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
Railing against drug companies. I mean, I think there are probably a lot of Democrats and none of them were applauding, but probably felt like, well, you know, we kind of agree with that the drug companies are scamming Americans and we have to do something about it. They just think that what Trump is doing isn't really going to matter that much. But yeah, there are bits and pieces that Donald Trump leans into which are a Little bit different than what a lot of Republicans would be comfortable with. But the big one, I think, was tariffs, which Democrats don't like either. And it was interesting how much the air was sucked out of the chamber when Trump started talking about tariffs. The Republicans were cheering everything. They weren't cheering that. I thought that was. That was noticeable.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
He didn't attack the Supreme Court justices who were in front of him, though. For instance, somebody like Amy Comey Barrett, whom he appointed to the court, who voted to strike down his tariffs right there in front of him. The kind of insults or attacks that we might have expected from him were not there. He was very measured and disciplined, I thought, when it came to that, but insisted that, you know, his tariff policies will stay in place, he'll find other ways to bring them in. He said congressional action will not be necessary, which is probably just as well, because there so many of his own Republicans in Congress who wouldn't vote for this. And he insisted that lots of foreign countries are very, very happy with his tariff regime. But even on that, as controversial as it was, it was a bit more measured than we might have expected from somebody who is probably still furious about what happened to his tariffs.
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
Can I just underline as well, because I think this is such a fascinating point. We used to say that there was a coming potential constitutional crisis when the Supreme Court told Donald Trump to do something he didn't want to do. And who knows, maybe he might take no notice of it. We used to have episodes, didn't we, where we talked to people, legal scholars, he said, well, the Supreme Court hasn't got any way of actually enforcing what it wants to do if a president says no. It's interesting, isn't it, Anthony, that on this occasion, the Supreme Court did something that angered him considerably, and we saw that anger, and he's gone along with it. There has not been a constitutional crisis. He is doing what they told him to do. And in front of them, or a few of them who came to the State of the Union, he was, as Sarah says, meek and mild.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
Yeah, yeah. He was looking for another means and saying, well, we'll just find some other way to do it. He didn't. He didn't even wag his finger the way Barack Obama did at one point when the court issued a decision against him saying that it was a wrong decision. I was watching very carefully because I was perched up on a balcony and I was pretty much directly over where the Supreme Court justices were sitting. So I saw them all came in, and I heard the murmurs from the crowd when only four of the nine justices showed up. I mean, that's got to be close to a record low turnout for Supreme Court justices at these kind of things. And then I was also watching very carefully when Donald Trump came in. I watched John Roberts, the chief justice, stand up with a very kind of pained expression on his face and clapping very slowly. And they did shake hands and exchange a few words, but that grimace that Roberts had never really left his face. And I think it's clear that he's not happy with the way Donald Trump responded to that Supreme Court decision on Friday, taking to the press room in the White House and just lashing out against the justices, calling them lap dogs and calling them unpatriotic.
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
Sarah, there was a big moment on immigration, wasn't there?
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
Yes. What we heard from Donald Trump was a focus on shutting the border and his claim that zero illegal aliens have entered the United States in the past 12 months. Much more than a focus on the deportation campaigns and the very, very controversial way in which ICE have been going about that, particularly in Minneapolis. He steered away from the more controversial aspects of that. But he then had a stage managed moment to embarrass the Democrats where he asked everybody to stand up. So this is all the Congress members who are there in the chamber with him. He said they were to stand up if they support a country focused on Americans, not illegal aliens.
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Donald Trump
One of the great things about the State of the Union is how it gives Americans the chance to see clearly what their representatives really believe. So tonight, I'm inviting every legislature to join with my administration in reaffirming a fundamental principle. If you agree with this statement, then stand up and show your support. The first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
And you saw all of the Republicans and their supporters on their feet applauding wildly. And all the Democrats sat down, some of them looking absolutely furious, like Mark Kelly, some of them shouting at Donald Trump that you've killed Americans, referring to the two people who were shot in Minneapolis by ice. But it was a moment designed to embarrass Democrats and to allow the Republicans to. To portray them as being radical leftists who don't support American citizens and have more concern for illegal aliens than they do for American voters.
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Donald Trump
In that shame, you should be ashamed of yourself. Not standing up. You should be ashamed of yourself. That is why I'm also asking, and
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
I think that Donald Trump and the people who created that moment for him will probably be very pleased with how that went.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
It was clearly an attempt by Donald Trump at the White House to wrest back the immigration issue, because, as we've discussed on this podcast, the polls show that Trump's support on the issue has eroded considerably, that it's now a weight on him, where just two years ago it was one of the reasons why he won the presidential election and returned to the White House. So this was an attempt by the president to shift focus off this immigration crackdown that has become unpopular and on to all of these undocumented migrants he says are responsible for crime. The Somali pirates who have been doing corruption in Minnesota, and the truck driver who seriously wounded the little girl who was in the audience, and the undocumented migrants who murdered American citizens. All of this definitely a concerted effort to try to move on and regain the high ground, at least in his view, on the issue.
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
But it's interesting, isn't it, that there is this sort of sense that they need to change the conversation and change it quite quickly. And I'm not sure, for all the discipline, Sarah, that you were talking about, I'm not sure that this necessarily does that.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
If people don't feel better off and they start blaming Donald Trump for that. Because over a year in, you can't carry on just blaming Joe Biden. Although Donald Trump did try and spend quite a lot of time doing that, then, yeah, it's not going to play very well for them in the midterm elections. There were other things, of course, that he could have done or said that might have made it even worse for them. Not least a very slight. Maybe it's the way to put it, focus on international relations. Because one of the other things that some people who voted for Donald Trump in 2024, but maybe might not come out to vote for him in November this year, been worried about is how much time he seems to have spent on international affair when they would prefer that he was sorting out their problems at home. But as well as. I mean, he of course told us that he had already ended eight wars. He will never miss an opportunity to claim that. But actually he wasn't threatening to take action in any serious way in Iran. He said that his preference will always be for diplomacy, and he wasn't talking about expanding American power further than that either. I thought it was quite interesting, actually, how foreign affairs was kept to the end of the speech and kept relatively tight.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
Yeah. Not surprising, I suppose, most State of the Union addresses, no matter who the president is, unless you're George W. Bush and about to go to war with Iraq they don't spend a lot of time on foreign policy. But I think it is interesting, given the massive buildup that we've seen of US Forces around Iran and the possibility that there could be a US Military action in the coming days. He really didn't try to do any kind of a sales pitch to the country, any kind of an explanation for why this is needed. He talked about nuclear weapons, and they won't let Iran have the nuclear weapons. But if the bombs start dropping and if it becomes a prolonged conflict, I think he may regret not doing a little more to at least try to lay the groundwork for convincing the American public on it.
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
Yeah, I mean, on that and on these other issues as well, I just to harp on about the midterms, I just didn't feel that there was a kind of rebirth of a Trump politics that tries to persuade the nation that anything is about to change in a way. I mean, he talked about the economy in the way that we've talked about and tariffs and all the rest of it, but there's nothing there, it seems to me, that changes the subject that G's up Americans, and particularly independents who've been the people who've been going off him recently, according to the polls, that that actually changes the political picture.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
I think you're right. I think that, you know, then again, State of the Union addresses, you know, you're asking, will this move the needle? They generally don't move the needle. You know, there's a lot more attention by those of us who cover politics given to them maybe than they even are worth. When you look at addresses like this that actually change the dynamic, they're very few and far between. I mean, we had, as I mentioned, a George Bush one back in the early 2000s on the run up to the Iraq war, which was very, very closely watched. The Axis of Evil speech that he gave after the September 11 attacks, maybe one or two of the Bill Clinton one, certainly the one after he had an affair with Monica Lewinsky. That one was closely watched, although more for prurient interest than I think any other reason. But if Trump is hoping that the White House is hoping that this speech is, is what's going to turn the ship around, then that may be too much of a wish. I think these things just kind of show up. We spend the time talking about them and then they disappear into the ether.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
He didn't offer anything spectacularly new that would persuade people to vote for him in the midterms. It was about reframing what's happened in the last 12 months, skating over the more controversial aspects of it, the voters haven't liked and tried to package it in a saleable way to say, look, this is what I've delivered for you so far, rather than making big promises about anything that he might be able to deliver for them this side of November. But I do think that the rather more disciplined Donald Trump that we saw there, sticking to the message, not banging on about the stolen election in 2020 or picking out any individual critics or adversaries of his, that this kind of slightly more mature political speech may suggest he realizes there is a problem and is about to start addressing it now. Whether he can stay on message between now and November is of course, a much, much bigger question. But it was almost as though the realization has gotten through to him that the poll numbers are bad and that what's coming in the midterms might not be looking very good. Because the last few times he's been out to give speeches on the economy and affordability, he hasn't stuck to the message and he's kind of lashed out at his critics instead of accepting that something needs to change or at least people need to be persuaded of what he's done.
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
He mentioned at least one Democrat in really glowing terms. And it was fascinating because he also called him a communist. But he obviously really likes Zoran Mamdani, the mayor of New York and even
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Donald Trump
the new communist mayor of New York City. I think he's a nice guy, actually speak to him a lot. Bad policy, but nice guy just said they want people to shovel snow. They got hit hard, want some dishevel snow. But if you apply for that job, you need to show two original forms of ID and a Social Security card.
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
I mean, what do you make of the Mamdani mention, but also more widely of how the Democrats approach the whole evening?
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
Yeah, it was in reference to the fact that New York is requiring people to show ID in order to clear snow. And he was making the case that you should have to show ID to vote as well and to pitch his voter ID law that is currently deadlocked in Congress. But again, you wouldn't mention him, you wouldn't name check him unless you liked him. And the fact that he was bringing up his name, not in a way that was an attack. I do think it's fascinating we talked about the relationship before, one New Yorker to another, kind of kindred outsider spirits, and maybe that's a sign that that wasn't just a one off. When Mamdani visited the White House that they do actually have some sort of a strange opposites attract bond. But the Democrats were interesting to watch. You know, I watched them throughout the speech. We had Al Green, who was the Texas Democrat who stood up and interrupted Trump's shouting last year when he addressed Congress, got escorted out by security. This time he didn't shout, but he stood up and held this banner that said black people are not apes, a reference to that X video that had Barack Obama and Michelle Obama portrayed as guerrillas. He still got escorted out. Apparently, that was disruptive enough. Rashida Tlaib, who is a congresswoman from Michigan, she was shouting back at Trump on a number of occasions, saying that they killed Americans during the immigration enforcement. Ilhan Omar, the congresswoman from Minnesota, who is of Somali descent, shouted back that Trump was a liar when he started talking about Somali pirates who are corrupt in Minnesota. There was just generally iciness and coldness among the Democrats, and at times it felt like real animosity. And that's the Democrats who actually showed up, as I mentioned, I think upwards of 50 didn't come, which is a remarkably high number. And you could see from the empty seats on the Democratic side and the Republicans who had kind of moved over and taken some of the seats on the Democratic side, that they were not at full attendance, not near it. Yeah.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
And what happens after the State of the Union is that the opposing party nominate one person to give a kind of rebuttal address on tv. And this year it is Abigail Spamberger who's doing that for the Democrats, the newly elected governor of Virginia. And so she went on TV saying that she had three questions for voters. Is the President working to make your life more affordable? Is he working to keep Americans safe at home and abroad? Is he working for you? And this is some of what she
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Abigail Spanberger (Democratic Rebuttal Speaker)
had to say in his speech tonight. The President did what he always does. He lied, he scapegoated and he distracted. And he offered no real solutions to our nation's pressing challenges, so many of which he is actively making worse. He tries to divide us, he tries to enrage us, to pit us against one another, neighbour against neighbor. And sometimes he succeeds.
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Justin (Americast Host, London)
Radio. Guys, at this stage, I've got a day job to go and do so. And I know you're going to talk about hockey too, which. Anthony, Hockey is a thing played in a field and you get muddy knees. So I'm going to leave it to the two of you, but enjoy and see you all later.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
Bye, Justin.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
Yes. So Justin mentioned the hockey there, and of course, there are still Great celebrations in the United States States that the men's American hockey team won gold medal at the Winter Olympics. And we heard in our episode on Monday, Donald Trump on the phone to the victorious players in their locker room when, bizarrely, the head of the FBI, Cash Patel, was celebrating with them in their changing room. And he invited Donald Trump, invited them to come to the State of the Union, which he said was the coolest night out in Washington, and that they could tour around the White House. And he actually made good on that, didn't he, Anthony? As something of a surprise for everybody in the chamber, he announced that the team were there. And they walked in near the beginning of the speech. Well, once he was already actually going to huge applause.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
Yeah, they walked in not far from where I was sitting on the balcony on my side. I didn't get a really good look at them. I had kind of craned my neck around. But I did get a look at the gathered crowd of legislators down in the floor of the House. And they went nuts, erupted in cheers. The Republicans were chanting, usa, usa. Even the Democrats, who had been sitting on their hands for most of the night, at least up to that point, stood up and cheered. In fact, Donald Trump quipped about how this was the first time they had gotten up to cheer. So it was a unifying moment, a rare unifying moment in what otherwise was a divided chamber. And I think that that might suggest a little bit to some of Trump's strategy as well. He had a bunch of different references to sports in that speech, a bunch of different references to American patriotism and military heroes, Talking about the 250th anniversary of the nation that is going to be celebrated in July. Maybe it's not so much he's hoping that people change their mind about the economy. Maybe he's not hoping that whatever new plans he comes up with are going to solve the concerns that and the problems of Americans. Maybe it's just hoping that people become more patriotic. And if that hockey moment was any indication, there are things that Americans can rally around and that Donald Trump can try to feel the reflected glow of.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
So that was the men's team that he invited in, and he did say that the women's team were going to be coming to the White House. And because they won as well, I think they had actually refused, refused their invitation to come to the State of the Union after Donald Trump had faced really quite a backlash online by saying, we're going to have to bring the women's team as well. When he was inviting the men's team, he said, oh, I'll have to do that because if I don't, I would probably be impeached. And that all turned into something of a controversy, didn't it? And seemed to have led to the women's team choosing not to turn up tonight.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
Yeah, it was a bit of a locker room snubbed that he called into their celebrations that he felt obligated to somehow bring them to the White House as well and not to celebrate what was an equally dramatic victory for the women overtime win over the same opponent, the Canadian. So, you know, you had a clear cut case of both the men and the woman having these shining achievements. But Trump seemed much more interested in celebrating the man. And I think he tried to do maybe a little bit of damage control in his speech tonight about that.
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Donald Trump
That's the first time I've ever seen them get up. And actually not all of them did get up, but they beat a fantastic Canadian team in overtime, as everybody saw, as did the American women who will soon be coming to the White House
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
longest ever State of the Union address at. So it was even an hour and 40 last year and even longer than that this year. So he's setting a new record every time he does it. Could have done with 30 minutes last, you think, Anthony?
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
I think so. I mean, I have to admit that I, towards the end I started to work on my analysis piece that will be up on the website and hope that he didn't do anything like announce that we're going to war with Iran in the middle of it and make me have to rewrite all of it. But it was with all the applause at all of the different special guests, it did stretch on. I remember Bill Clinton, who was a previous record holder before Trump's speech last year. It felt like his speeches went on forever. And now I think I go back and listen to them and think they were, you know, walking the park. We talked about Ronald Reagan. One of his speeches was only 30 minutes. Can you believe that? A 30 minute state of the Union address that would have, we would have been home and in bed by now if it was Reagan speaking.
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Sarah (BBC Washington Bureau)
And instead, Anthony, I think what we both have to do is go and do a little bit more work, tell everybody online, on the radio and on the television what Donald Trump had to say. And for our ameracasters, just say bye, bye, bye all.
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Anthony (Americast Reporter, Capitol)
We'll be back soon.
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