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Christine (0:01)

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Megan (1:37)

Waking up.

Christine (1:37)

I drank last night on time.

Megan (1:39)

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Christine (1:41)

What happened?

Megan (1:41)

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Christine (1:45)

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Megan (1:49)

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Christine (2:14)

After you.

Megan (2:15)

Summary

Podcast Summary: And That's Why We Drink

Episode 476: Country Ghost Songs and Produce Shirt Mandela Effects
Hosts: Christine Schiefer & Em Schulz
Date: March 29, 2026

Main Theme

This episode balances chilling true crime and paranormal tales with plenty of laughs and personal stories. Christine and Em swap wild personal anecdotes, discuss the haunting Goldfield Hotel and Zach Bagans’ Ghost Adventures return, and dive into a missing person case with a side quest for a mysterious produce-themed shirt. The blend of banter, spooky happenings, and vintage drama embodies the podcast's hallmark: the world’s a scary—and weird—place, and that’s why we drink.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Pre-Show Banter & A Duel of Politeness

Christine and Em joke about their ongoing struggle for who starts the show, referencing “The Office” (Michael Scott’s silent negotiating) and their “genteel” co-hosting style.
- Notable Quote (03:13, Christine): “Someone has to be gracious, and it was obviously me today because I think you took the first…first line.”

2. Inside Jokes and School Memories

The hosts reflect on what triggers people to think of them, segues into school mischief and scandalous incidents (Christine’s story of a graphic drawing in religion class and the fallout for a teacher).
- Notable Moment (07:52, Christine): “Having sex on Mr. Nagle’s desk…and then another kid…walked in…really bad.”
- Emphasized: The confusion and mishandling of minor scandals by teachers, plus the difference in handling threats pre-/post-Columbine.
Megan’s story of a disturbing elementary school “death threat” scribbled on a bathroom stall and Christine’s near-Nancy Drew-level eighth grade AIM investigation into a bullying case.

3. Paranormal Parenting: Leona's Ghost Sighting

Christine recounts a chilling, “baby’s first ghost” encounter by her daughter Leona, who saw a “big person” in the hallway, right as Christine’s husband Blaze arrived home.
- Notable Quote (25:08, Megan, reacting as Leona): “Oh, no.”
- Christine details a creepy pattern: The stranger was “even bigger than Daddy,” in the same spot where previous haunting stories took place (27:06).
Conversation around setting spiritual boundaries for children, protective affirmations, and how to address spirits (“If I have not known and loved you in this lifetime, you need to go.”).
- Advice from hosts: Teaching kids to enforce boundaries with possible spirits as with people (31:26).

4. Community and Podcast Updates

Patreon update: Ad-free episodes now available from episode 469 onward in the new $10 “Happy Yapper” tier, intermissions (Yappy Hour), and bonus content is highlighted (19:49-21:47).

5. Ghost Adventures: Goldfield Hotel Rewatch & Critique

Em gives a detailed commentary of Zak Bagans’ 2021 Ghost Adventures revisit to the Goldfield Hotel, exploring the evolution of the show, odd production decisions, and standout moments:
- Zak claims the hotel is now a “magnet for dark energy…infecting those close to it” (47:01).
- Discussion of the removal and narrative use of the Constantinos’ tragedy.
- Experimental darkness: Zak orders hotel windows covered for days to “trap spirits”—the logic and science get grilled (55:38).
- Multiple “possessions,” physical altercations, and intense spirit box EVPs (“will kill,” “you’re in my house”) add drama but stretch believability (53:25; 68:53; 73:50).
  - Christine’s take: “If we got that EVP, we would have probably left.”
- Zak’s vulnerability: In the dark, he gets so spooked he runs into a wall and calls for help—rare humility (80:55).
- Wrap-up: Critically, the episode is both tongue-in-cheek and compelling, and the hosts keep pace with commentary and gentle roasting.

6. The Mandela Effect of The Produce Shirt

Megan launches an impassioned campaign to find an “Incredible Asparagus” shirt from Knott’s Berry Farm—a mysterious, seemingly vanished collection of vegetable-themed shirts that cannot be found online, stoking Mandela Effect vibes and existential dread (91:07–99:43).
- Notable Quote (96:06, Megan): “If someone can make me a shirt that says, ‘I got blasted from a nuclear explosion into another timeline and all I got was this fucking asparagus shirt from a boysenberry store,’ I would love that on a shirt.”

7. True Crime Deep Dive Teaser: The Disappearance of Dorothy Arnold

Christine launches into the historical mystery of Manhattan socialite Dorothy Arnold’s 1910 disappearance—one of the city’s first major high-profile missing person cases (88:35).
- Dorothy, from a wealthy, well-connected family, aspired to be a writer and rebelled against societal expectations.
- On December 12, 1910, after shopping and running into a friend (the last confirmed sighting), Dorothy vanished. Six weeks passed before her family alerted police, greatly hindering the search.
  - The family's silence attributed to a desire to avoid public scandal (121:00).
- Rich in period detail: debutante balls, family dynamics, and the clash between privilege and independence.
- To Be Continued: The episode ends before Christine gets to the theories and conclusion, promising a full part two.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“You have to just tell them, ‘You’re not welcome in my space’…works for ghosts as well as people.” — Christine on spiritual boundaries (31:26)
“If you ain’t here with love in your heart, get outta my room you big old fart.” — Christine (34:03)
“What is it that you seek now, in our darkness, when you have come for us now?” — Ghost-possessed medium in Goldfield Hotel (75:05)
“This was a very Em-heavy show. Next week will be very Christine!” — Megan, as the true crime half gets bumped to the next episode (123:52)

Timestamps for Important Segments

[02:14] Polite hosting banter, opening jokes
[04:51] “What makes people think of you?” / inside joke discussion
[06:47] Christine’s infamous high school drawing story
[12:33] Megan’s 8-year-old “death threat” story
[19:49] Patreon update & ad-free option
[22:31] Ghost encounter: Leona sees a “big man” in the hallway
[25:08] Leona’s ghostly sighting details
[34:03] Hosts’ banishment mantras/country song improv (“If you ain’t here with love in your heart…”)
[44:03] Zach Bagans’ Ghost Adventures Goldfield Hotel commentary begins
[47:01] Zak’s “dark energy infection” theory introduction
[55:38] The “trapped spirits” experiment (blackout windows)
[73:50] SLS camera and ghostly “blowy” in Goldfield Hotel
[75:05] Possession monologue (“What is it that you seek…?”)
[80:55] Zak runs into a wall, gets genuinely scared
[91:07] The Knott’s Berry Farm “Incredible Asparagus” shirt saga
[88:35] Dorothy Arnold intro—true crime part begins
[121:00] Family’s delayed police report for scandal avoidance
[123:52] Next week’s case continuation

Tone & Style

Conversational, witty, and self-deprecating, with plenty of asides and riffing on pop culture and personal anecdotes.
Quick pivot between humor and sincerity—especially in recounting frightening or tragic stories.
Sincere paranormal/true crime intrigue is always balanced with skepticism and levity.

Useful for Listeners Who Haven't Heard the Episode

Get the highlights of Leona’s ghost encounter and why it unnerved Christine.
Understand the wilderness of Ghost Adventures’ Goldfield Hotel episodes—no need to watch to get the gist or the best commentary.
The “produce shirt” Mandela Effect serves as a signature ATWWD detour: charismatic, odd, revealing, and funny.
True crime fans are left with a classic cliffhanger—Christine’s research on the Dorothy Arnold disappearance ensures anticipation for the next episode.

“And that’s why we drink.”

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