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Akash Singh
The guy who's about to fight you right now is on the purest form of fentanyl. Like, he's gotta know who you are.
Israel Adesanya
That's why he pulled up on me. I had a great morning. And then this guy, I think, because he saw my car, so he doubled back and it's like, izzy, one outs. And in New Zealand, that's like you and me, one on one. Let's go. And I started laughing, and I was thinking, like, bro, I fight for millions. I'm not gonna knock your ass out for free. And he goes, nah, I fight for free. I fight for the streets, for my pride. And I was thinking, you're stupid. You're stupid. At the end, you see me spit at him, and he just looks down like. And then I realize, you're not gonna do shit. If he spat back at me, then it's on. But again, I'm glad I had a good day. I don't like street fights. I don confrontation. But if you bring the problem, then I'm gonna solve the problem. I realized this because it happened to Anderson, it's happened to Jones. It's happened to a lot of the greats. The longer you defend the belt, the less risk you take.
Akash Singh
Do you care about the Strickland fight?
Israel Adesanya
Come on, man.
Akash Singh
Yeah, I want that back.
Israel Adesanya
Come on, man. I know me, and I know where I was during that fight week and all that. And again, that was his time. It was his week. But the whole fight just felt like a weird dream. I know I'm gonna be a great dad, but. Cuz, I told Alex about it before, and you getting. What's up, everybody?
Akash Singh
Welcome to flagrant. Yo, I'm. I'm saying this. I don't know if this is based on anything, but I think that you might be the most recurring guest that.
Mark Gagnon
We'Ve had to be. This is your fourth. Big time.
Akash Singh
Yeah, we got sty Bender in the.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Akash Singh
You need an orb, you get a trophy. Yeah, we need to give you something.
Dov Davidoff
Or maybe a blue pill or something.
Akash Singh
Is there a blue pill? Should you take it now and then we just see what happens? I'll pop up with you.
Dov Davidoff
Let's go have these.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Guys, you know about this movie? Oh, yeah. No, we won't do that. We won't do that. We'll leave it.
Akash Singh
Listen, bro, first of all, we missed you. It's great to see you again.
Israel Adesanya
You know, there's a lot of growth as well, even just as we've been here. We got.
Akash Singh
We got to say something. Else, it's very important because, Mark, you already spilled the beans, but we can say it. You know, we brought. We brought Israel out of sign on the podcast to say congratulations, Mark. Okay.
Dov Davidoff
Thank you, guys.
Akash Singh
Mark got a baby. Mark had a little baby boy.
Dov Davidoff
My dude's here. Yeah, it's awesome.
Akash Singh
Do you have a name locked in yet?
Dov Davidoff
We have a name.
Akash Singh
Okay.
Dov Davidoff
We have a name locked in.
Mark Gagnon
You want to reveal it now or it's.
Israel Adesanya
I don't.
Dov Davidoff
People are going to look him up. People to steal his identity, and you know what I mean?
Akash Singh
Nobody give a Andrew. Okay, so you want to keep the name. Steal the.
Mark Gagnon
Steal the feature.
Akash Singh
Does it even have a birth suit? Like, what is that?
Dov Davidoff
That's the thing. No, he was born at home, so we had to forge it.
Israel Adesanya
Water birth.
Dov Davidoff
Yeah, not even water. Just air fire.
Akash Singh
You just caught it like a football.
Dov Davidoff
Yeah, she. She pulled out.
Akash Singh
Like, she was standing.
Dov Davidoff
She was, like, kneeling. She was kneeling. And I, I. I was behind her, and then she was just like, yo.
Israel Adesanya
What are you guys ready for?
Akash Singh
That is. That's one of those things where you're just in the moment, then you just hear dunk, and you're like, was I supposed to. For real?
Israel Adesanya
Was it like a, like, just happened randomly or you. You were prepared and that was how you guys were meant to be?
Dov Davidoff
No, she's. That does home birth. So she was like, this is how I want to do it, but I was afraid. I thought it was gonna be a butt fumble situation.
Akash Singh
I thought I was gonna, like, slip.
Dov Davidoff
Like, yeah, who's on first?
Akash Singh
Okay.
Israel Adesanya
Wow.
Akash Singh
Okay. So you're a dad now.
Dov Davidoff
Yeah, it was awesome.
Akash Singh
During the labor.
Israel Adesanya
The buddy now.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Daddy, Daddy.
Dov Davidoff
I stubbed my toe during the labor.
Akash Singh
Oh, it must have been so hard for you. Oh, man, That's a pain that you must have endured during the labor.
Dov Davidoff
I swear to God, bro. Like, she's having a contraction, and she's like, yo, I gotta go pee. I gotta go bathroom. So I was like, all right. I'm, like, guiding her over. And then I hit my toe on the side of the bed. My pinky. Not like, that's the worst one to hit.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, of course.
Dov Davidoff
And so I take her over. You've been hitting the pinky toe?
Israel Adesanya
Oh, heaps. Conor pulled out the fight with Michael Chandler because of his.
Akash Singh
But now you get it.
Dov Davidoff
Now you understand exactly as a fighter.
Israel Adesanya
Relatable. Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
And so we went to the bathroom, and I'm, like, standing there, like, Winston, like, standing on my toe, like.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
And then she has a contraction.
Akash Singh
Oh, no.
Dov Davidoff
And then she looks at me, she's like, what's wrong? What's wrong?
Akash Singh
And I was like, nothing.
Dov Davidoff
You're doing great. And I had to push it down in that moment. But I told her after, once the baby came out.
Akash Singh
Once the baby was out? Yeah. I was like, yo, I've never fucked myself.
Israel Adesanya
You understand?
Dov Davidoff
Yeah, yeah, yeah. She got me ice and made food and stuff.
Akash Singh
You got to keep them working.
Israel Adesanya
Real one. Real one.
Akash Singh
They get a little bored if they're not, you know, still working every second. Oh, when are you going to have some babies already?
Israel Adesanya
Me? I don't know when. Maybe I already have some. China was wild, bro.
Akash Singh
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Do you. When you're in China, do you just shoot them up?
Israel Adesanya
Nah, it's not even that. It's just. It was a different time. I was younger and. Yeah. Less responsible.
Akash Singh
Yeah, but I don't feel like you're a condom guy.
Israel Adesanya
I am now. I don't know why I'm following.
Akash Singh
I was like, how does he know we had fun in New Zealand.
Israel Adesanya
No, yeah, I'm responding. Responsible. I'm irresponsible.
Akash Singh
You're responsible. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Israel Adesanya
But.
Mark Gagnon
But in China, you could go. I mean, they were born after birth in China.
Israel Adesanya
Wait, to do what?
Mark Gagnon
I mean, they'll kill the baby.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, true. Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
If they already have a kid, then.
Israel Adesanya
You know, you're only allowed one. And also.
Akash Singh
But they're also gonna know who the daddy is.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Straight away. Straight away. I mean, even if he knocks on my door, I was like, israel, a dasanya. Oh, no. It's in the eyes, you know, straight away.
Akash Singh
But think about the skin color.
Dov Davidoff
The eyes he get.
Israel Adesanya
But me, now, I'm disciplined.
Akash Singh
You're responsible.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, I am. I'm.
Akash Singh
You have a chef?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, he's actually chilling, man. Yeah, he's the man. He's the man. Good peoples. He's actually been a chef for, like, what, almost 17 years? But.
Akash Singh
But have you corrupted him yet?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Oh, he corrupted me.
Akash Singh
What do you mean? With good, delicious food. That's great for your bod.
Israel Adesanya
So he's my first friend when I lived in this town called Wanganui. I want to know what type of.
Akash Singh
Corruption you was just talking about.
Israel Adesanya
So when I. When I moved, my guy, you know, chefs are craz. Yeah, yeah. No, because I moved to Wanganu as a. As a kid, I was a virgin. Good boy. No alcohol, didn't drink, nothing like that. But they hanging out with him and our group of friends. I was, put it this way, a couple Diddy parties. No, no, no, no. Hell no. I was the getaway driver for them. Doing like mailbox, you know, hitting cars windows, that kind of stuff. Like what, 17, 18. And. And I was always living vicariously through them as they did some New Zealand is really progressive.
Mark Gagnon
That's what I was just thinking.
Akash Singh
You would choose the black guy to drive the car. They wouldn't let the black guy near the steering wheel. Cause you're getting pulled over immediately. We promised we didn't rob anything. No, you were just driving black too.
Israel Adesanya
Also, it was like a soccer mom van. So it was, you know, could fit a lot of people, but incognito, not like a fucking Subaru or anything like that. Yeah, but nah, yeah, he's good people. I like having people like that around me because again, I've talked about this now. Yeah, I got this far with just eating the dirty Uber eats and then now I actually eat whole foods good meals like my last fight. I feel.
Akash Singh
You look shredded.
Israel Adesanya
I was a muscle. The weight card was easy.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
So, yeah, thanks to him. And now we're going to just pick up where we left off because you.
Akash Singh
Want it again, huh?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
You want it bad. You had it. I thought it was yours. Easy.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, but that's the game. That's how it happened.
Akash Singh
You made a small. You like, made a small mistake. You never spoke on the mistake. What was the. Can you say that?
Israel Adesanya
So the mistake was just a lapse in focus because I tripped. Bad footwork. And I tripped. And then that was when he was kind of thrown at me and people thought like, oh, you heard him. And I got up and I was like, the ground. And then DC was like, he's doing the Max Holloway. But I'll kind of just be like, nah, the ground. Even that moment right there, I shouldn't have. Just stay focused on the task at hand because you need 30 minutes of focus while you're in there. So you can't even just have a lapse in judgment for a split second because if not, someone can jump on you and capitalize. I've done that to people as well. But this guy, I mean, got done to me.
Akash Singh
So wait, what do you mean? You point at the ground and that's when he lunged to you?
Israel Adesanya
Cause again, I was just telling him like, it wasn't you, it was the ground.
Dov Davidoff
I tripped.
Israel Adesanya
I tripped.
Mark Gagnon
But like he's saying, even explaining himself, who gives a fuck?
Israel Adesanya
Fuck, yeah. Just focus on the fight. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
You don't even explain yourself.
Israel Adesanya
You never see me in a fight. Complain to the ref. Unless, like, when Brunson really grabbed my shorts for the second time, and I was like, ref, that's twice. But you never see me kind of, like, lose focus. I just focus on the task at hand. But, yeah, in that moment, I lost focus, and that was it for me at the time.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Outside of that, anything surprising, like.
Israel Adesanya
Nah, because, you know, the strength was something. It was, oh, he's so much this, he's so much that. But I felt strong in there. Again, shout out, Matt. Yeah, so I felt really strong. I felt fast. If you do the numbers, like, my guy, Bill Smart did the numbers, he said, that was the most active I've ever been in any of my fights in the U.S. yeah, it felt like.
Akash Singh
The pace was high.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. So I was putting the pace on him. So again, you know, took time off, came back, felt great. That's the main thing. I felt great when I was fighting. So now we're gonna build. We did my test about four weeks ago, now three weeks ago, so we. We've got the numbers and we're like, cool. We are where we were four weeks out from the fight. So it's like, cool. Let's build off from that. I'm gonna build off.
Akash Singh
Okay, so what do you want? Like, what is your ideal next couple years if everything goes the way?
Israel Adesanya
I actually have no idea. That's the thing. And it's nice to know that. And I was even telling Rogues this. I've never felt that when people talk about, say, you know, I lost the belt, like, Matt Hughes was one of the first people I heard. Who's my chef's name, by the way? Matt Hughes. Wow. Yeah. But Matt Hughes, the legend, UFC icon, was the. The first one I heard talk about. When he lost a bit, he felt this pressure come off, like, ah, I'm not the champ anymore. But I'd never felt that because I was the champ for so long. And then when I lost it in msg, it was kind of like, fuck, let's do it again. And then it wasn't until. Even when I lost it to Strickland, I still felt like, you know, that target on my back. And it still is. But after this fight, I was kind of like, well, meh. Like, I wasn't attached to the result. I just wanted to show off. I wanted to fight, and I did. So now I'm in a spot where it's like, who do I fight? When do I fight? Because I'm only doing main events, five rounders and title fights. That's all I've done for the last. How many years? But it's kind of nice to just not have that be the focus now. But now just fight, show off, make money. But. But we'll see. I'm excited.
Akash Singh
Where do you get, like. Where do you get the motivation now? Like, you've beaten everybody. You've become the biggest star in the sports, you've made all the money, you've taken care of. I imagine you made it.
Israel Adesanya
You know, we need more.
Akash Singh
See, that's the thing.
Israel Adesanya
Always gets better, no matter what. Right.
Akash Singh
You buy one car, you like, that other car is nice, too. Every. You know, once the lifestyle steps up, there's other things you want.
Israel Adesanya
But.
Akash Singh
But you've made enough money where, like, you're good, your family's good, like, everything is good, and you've achieved, I imagine, all the dreams you had when you were younger within ufc.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Is there this moment where. And I'm asking because there's, like, a thing that I kind of relate to in my sphere of work, but it's like, is there's a moment where you have to decide to make new dreams, to get yourself up every day, to put in the work, to achieve what you achieved.
Israel Adesanya
I haven't said even getting a submission right now would be meaningful to me more than getting a belt for the third time.
Akash Singh
So. That's the thing. It's like, you have to find things you haven't done yet. Because you all always said from the beginning, the first time that we. That we had you on, you were like, I don't care about the belt.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
The belt doesn't define me now. I'm sure it's nice to have the belt.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, it's nice. Yeah.
Akash Singh
To wear a crown. It's whatever.
Israel Adesanya
I got a couple at home.
Akash Singh
Exactly. They don't go away, but. Yeah. So that's why when you say right now, like, I didn't really care about the belt, like, I believe you.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Because I said it from the jump, and I'm glad you remember that.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
But now it's just, Again, highlights. Cool shit.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Like, again, when I was fighting, I realized this because it happened to Anderson, it's happened to Jones, has happened to a lot of the greats. The longer you defend the belt, the. I'm not speaking for those guys, of course, saying, the longer you defend the belt, the less risk you take. Because you see the way I was fighting, like, one of the examples I gave was my Brat Tavares fight, you know, end of round one. Cool. I hear the clapper 10 seconds left, so I'm gonna try Imminari roll. I landed in training quite a lot, but I've never, ever tried it in a fight. So I was like, let me try that. Did it just miss? Because my hips weren't high enough. And then I got up and I was like, come on. But again, like that, trying.
Mark Gagnon
When you have the belt longer, you stop doing that.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, it's not just about.
Mark Gagnon
I gotta defend the belt.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, it's not just about me. It's about, you know, when I win and I have the belt, there's a lot of people that eat. So, you know, it just slowly. And it's not. It's not on purpose. It's something that just happens. Like I said with Sylvia, I've seen it as a fan, and with Jones as well, I've seen it. But then now I'm kind of free of that. I'm just like. And I know I'm good and all that, so I just want to go back to just taking more risks, being. Being fun, being a highlight, dude.
Mark Gagnon
Like, did it get less fun as you have the belt longer and longer?
Israel Adesanya
Certain fights, there was one Marvin Vettori, when I was in there, maybe round three, and you hear, I don't know if it's on the fight, but I heard Twister. One of my coaches was, don't get bored, Izzy. Don't get bored. And I caught myself like, oh, yeah. But again, I didn't realize it because I'm in the fight, but he saw it in my eyes and my demeanor.
Akash Singh
Like, it was very dominant performance.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, well, he could see it, though. Maybe round three or four, he could just see. I was just like, this is boring for him.
Mark Gagnon
That seems like the beginning of starting to, like, not lose it, but starting to be like, oh, shit, it's coming down the road. He might lose this one. It's still easy. But that means you're probably not going to train quite as hard for the next fight. And then if you win that one, you train even less hard for the next fight, and eventually it will catch up to you.
Akash Singh
You never got a Road Rage knockout. Amen. You want to talk about highlights? So when I saw you square up, I was like this. The guy who's about to fight you right now is on the purest form of fentanyl, because there's no way, like, he's got to know who you are.
Israel Adesanya
All right? That's why I pulled up on me. So I had a great morning training.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Yeah. What's the story? You had a Del Delicious breakfast. Matt.
Israel Adesanya
Yes, Matt was. I think it was in Thailand at the time.
Akash Singh
Okay.
Israel Adesanya
So I had good morning training. Vibes was on, went to K Road to get this pie, like a famous pie on there. And I was just like, Vibes was on, just chilling. And then this guy, I think cause he saw my car so he doubled back and just like, look at him like Izzy one outs. And in New Zealand that's like one outs is like you and me, one on one. Let's go.
Akash Singh
What's crazy?
Israel Adesanya
What? Then I started laughing and I was thinking like the fuck? And people who were taking photos with me and stuff were like the. And I just kept on walking. And then the bit where it pissed him off because he was at the green light, everyone going around him, hooking their horns, like this guy.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And then I went, I just grabbed my car door and I went. And that pissed him off. So he just came in front of my car and I said, bro, I'm not gonna whoop.
Mark Gagnon
Why'd that piss him off?
Israel Adesanya
Just because you're flexing the car door does the scissors.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Israel Adesanya
If a guy just walks up to you, he's like, yo, let's shoot the fair one. And you're like like, bro, my car.
Akash Singh
Does this.
Dov Davidoff
Suicide door. He was trying to end it.
Israel Adesanya
Yes sir. No. But then he pulled up and then like tried to like talk all this R to me. And at one point I even trying to diffuse it, cuz I was like, bro, I don't know you.
Akash Singh
What's the craziest thing he said when.
Israel Adesanya
I said, bro, I fight for millions. I don't fight. I'm going to knock your ass. Knock your ass out for free. And he goes, n. I fight for free. I fight for the streets, for my pride. And I was thinking, you're stupid. You're stupid white guy. Was he like not Maori guy? He was brown. Yeah, See that's the problem I had when I first moved to New Zealand. I couldn't tell the difference between all of them wasn't because of races.
Akash Singh
Cuz you went to China.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, yeah. Hard mode. Eventually I got there. No, but then in the end I just as when I spat at him was when I was kind of like hoping try something.
Akash Singh
But then okay, that's at the end.
Israel Adesanya
You see me spit at him and he just looks down like. And then I realized, you're not gonna do shit. But also because of our boy. Like you remember the movie when our boy got knocked out? Yeah, street violence. And I just realized if I drop this guy right now, and he dies. Boom. They're gonna fucking put me through the ring.
Dov Davidoff
These are weapons now.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, yeah. They're being weapons. So for me, I was just like, nah, just. And again, we started a charity walk without fear to help with this kind of senseless street violence. Cause a lot of these guys, the boy that. That. The boys that killed my boy, they did home detention for, I think, a year and a half. And during that year and a half, we all had lockdown for six months in that time. So again, we all did it together. So what's the. And now they're around free.
Akash Singh
You're like, we also had home detention.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, exactly.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
So again, we're trying to change the laws with that charity. And this video, I believe, will help because it shows the discipline of someone like me. Yeah, because do that to Dan Hooker.
Akash Singh
Dan is like.
Israel Adesanya
Danza is a beast. And Dan would probably act differently. And maybe. Maybe not knock him out, but just put him to sleep, hang him out. Yeah, but still, how does the video end? Because it's like. It just cuts. Like it was still going on. If you go to the end, you'll see me just spit at him. And then when I slammed my car door down, I was kind of just like.
Dov Davidoff
That's when you were.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, that's when he got pissed. Yeah. But when I was driving off, he had a shirt off, and he was still flexing. And again. And people. Only one person, like, when I said, can you call the cops? One person helped me. Everyone else just had the camera for this moment. So you see me spit at him, then it looks down, and I got angry. But then what's happening right now? He just didn't do shit.
Akash Singh
But what are you thinking right now.
Israel Adesanya
As I spat at you on your leg? If someone. If he spat back at me, then it's on. But again, I'm glad I had a good day. And I don't like. I don't like street fights. I don't like confrontation. But if you bring the problem, then I'm gonna solve the problem.
Akash Singh
Okay. Okay, real quick. So in this. In this moment, there's. You're thinking, all right, do I knock this guy out? If I knock him out, does he die? Is there ever a thought, like, the average person would go, what if this guy knocks me out? Do you. Okay, so that's not even. Most of us would be thinking, damn, I'm about to get knocked out.
Israel Adesanya
Like, I just had a great breakfast. Like, I just put my plies in the car, took my watch Off. And I was just like, look, if he breaches the. The range, because I'm within my rights and he's within range, I was just thinking of fall. I was just like, man, if he hits his head because it's downhill, it's more gravity, boom, he's gonna bleed out. And I probably wouldn't be here right now.
Akash Singh
I want that type of confidence to be worried about killing the other person.
Israel Adesanya
It's hard to. Crazy, right? Yeah, I was just thinking of follow the charity and him dying.
Mark Gagnon
What if you just slapped him, Got another Dana White contract.
Akash Singh
Yeah, slap him in his face.
Israel Adesanya
So it happened. And get what?
Mark Gagnon
You joined a different Dana White league.
Israel Adesanya
See, I told him I was getting paid millions to fight. Like, if you. You're not getting paid like that to.
Akash Singh
Fight, why haven't any UFC guys or boxing guys entered?
Israel Adesanya
That Paige Van Zant did. She's doing her second fight soon, I think. Yeah, yeah, she has. But that's. She's crazy.
Akash Singh
I'm saying, like, guys that are no longer professional women. Yeah, yeah. I mean, we need like some big Puerto Rican lesbian. Yeah, yeah, that's. Oh, wow.
Israel Adesanya
Wow. Yeah, you close. But these. Yeah, you should a PO slap too. I'm not doing that.
Akash Singh
I'm not doing that.
Israel Adesanya
Damn. That's actually sore hands as well. Do you think his motivation was just trying to get paid? Cuz I don't. We don't have those laws in New Zealand. I think in his head, again, he's not caring about pay because he. He fights for the streets, fights for his pride. But the guy filming kept on going.
Akash Singh
To you or to him?
Israel Adesanya
I don't know. So. I don't know. It feel. It feels like it was a setup.
Akash Singh
The live tour, last show, so we're wrapping up the Life tour. Year and a half we've went on tour, gone to almost every fucking continent. And this planet. We are wrapping it up in Hawaii, Honolulu, Blydesdale, Bladesdale. I don't even know how to pronounce it. Arena. We'll see you guys all there December 21st. Appreciate y'all so much. Peace.
Mark Gagnon
Also, guys, dates. December 4th, Long island, sold out.
Akash Singh
I told you it would.
Mark Gagnon
November 22nd and 23rd, comedy at the Carlson, Rochester, New York. Still got tickets available for that. December number six and seven. Still got tickets in Albany. See y'all soon.
Akash Singh
How much are taxes out there in New Zealand?
Israel Adesanya
Not as much as New York.
Akash Singh
Really?
Mark Gagnon
Really.
Israel Adesanya
What do they take? If I'm gonna. Debit Kings is like 40 for my marginal tax rate, but my bracket Is like. It goes up now 33.
Akash Singh
Oh, wow. Now, question. Do you have to pay American taxes when you fight here?
Israel Adesanya
A thousand percent, but then you get like a rebate. Yeah. So you go back and be like, yeah, did it.
Akash Singh
Which helps, but still, because America needs that. We need that pound of flesh.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
You can't make money out here without us making money. You want to know? It's craz if you're an American citizen. What?
Israel Adesanya
Just give me the money.
Akash Singh
What? What?
Dov Davidoff
Italians.
Israel Adesanya
No, no, don't.
Akash Singh
You doing.
Dov Davidoff
You don't get it. That's what I realized, bro. I couldn't do that.
Israel Adesanya
Right now. It's a meme right now. I just see the. I don't get it.
Akash Singh
You don't get the meme of give me the money.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Have you seen show me the money.
Israel Adesanya
That one.
Akash Singh
You know what I'm talking about, Cub tell people. Cuba Gooden Jr. No, you're talking about something. Sorry.
Dov Davidoff
You acting like radio.
Akash Singh
Right.
Israel Adesanya
We all don't get it. So maybe I'm. Yeah, I'm right. I'm in the.
Akash Singh
Give me the money. The third person. Give me the money. But what is this about? Give me the money.
Israel Adesanya
You're asking the wrong guy. I just made a. A joke about it. But still, I've just seen it all over Tik Tok, all over the Reals, seen famous people do it on Shade Room, and I'm just like. It's all. I don't get the funny.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
So I guess we're.
Akash Singh
We're over Mark, have you explained it? Okay, thank you.
Israel Adesanya
You.
Akash Singh
You tell everyone. Okay, we're gonna say, give me the money. And then everyone cheers, and then the last person isn't in on the joke, and they do it. Each person does it more and more exaggerated. And the fourth person to do it or the last person to do it, no one cheers and everyone laughs at them.
Mark Gagnon
It's kind of funny.
Akash Singh
Yeah, it's kind of fun. Let me see it.
Israel Adesanya
I mean, maybe I had to be there.
Mark Gagnon
It's like bullying.
Israel Adesanya
Ah. What. What is this?
Dov Davidoff
Is this the one.
Akash Singh
Off. Give me the money. Did I do it?
Israel Adesanya
I guess so. All right. Close enough. Yeah, we all. We. We pass the. The trends. The gen. Is it Gen Z?
Akash Singh
Mark's on Bing.
Dov Davidoff
I'm on Ask Jeeves, and Jeeves doesn't know.
Akash Singh
What was he. Okay. Okay. You have the baby. Everything's done. Like, what was the first time?
Dov Davidoff
He just nodded his head. He thought you were talking to him. He had the baby.
Akash Singh
I'm just.
Israel Adesanya
I'm engaged. I'm engaged.
Akash Singh
So you have the baby. Okay. Like, okay, what was the first time you picked up your phone and looked at Instagram or social media while your kid was still in the room?
Dov Davidoff
Oh, it was like, it was probably like that next day.
Akash Singh
Yeah, yeah.
Dov Davidoff
And then some only fans girl popped up and I was like, yo, I can't. I can't watch this with my child.
Akash Singh
But it's crazy how you gotta get him pre.
Israel Adesanya
You gotta start em young.
Akash Singh
There is like, it's funny cause you'll go through a day where you're like, I don't need any of that shit. And then like your phone's just sitting over there, the baby's kinda sleeping. You're just like, oh, let me look at this.
Dov Davidoff
That's how I felt when I posted. Like the engagement was crazy. I was like, I gotta drop merch or something. There's a market with this. But yeah, no, you think you're like, yeah, I'm just gonna be a disciplined good person forever now.
Israel Adesanya
You know what I mean?
Dov Davidoff
I'm gonna be a great guy. And then just slowly wears away.
Akash Singh
Mark's wife wrote this beautiful thing. She'd be writing journal ent and. But it was like this beautiful thing and like, but he didn't say that it was his wife who wrote it. So he has this picture of it. I'm scrolling the picture, I'm like, oh my God, this adorable pictures. And then it comes to like a note. And I got through like three words and I was like, I can't read this shit before I go do shows. Like, I cannot experience this level of homosexuality. When I go on stage. I would have to call. I'm getting emotional like, yo, bro, it's beautiful. You finally have feelings.
Dov Davidoff
Like, it was in the description. It was in the description I said she wrote.
Mark Gagnon
It was just such a long description.
Akash Singh
I didn't read the description.
Mark Gagnon
I clicked see more and I was like, okay, Mark's emotional.
Akash Singh
I'll see more.
Mark Gagnon
Then it was like, that was like.
Akash Singh
A quarter of the post.
Mark Gagnon
I was like, bro, we're not doing this. It's a word limit. It's like a newspaper article. I need a thousand words. Max. That's it.
Akash Singh
But this is good. I should share. This is beautiful.
Dov Davidoff
Yeah, no, there's emotions online for sure.
Akash Singh
Also, like you going from like being addicted to Zen for like two weeks and having no emotion at all, like being an actual robot, to having every emotion in the world. That's the way to do it.
Dov Davidoff
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Akash Singh
Strip yourself of all emotion and Then just.
Dov Davidoff
Do you even know what my girl said when she was having a baby come out of her? And all of a sudden she saw me crack the can.
Akash Singh
And then you're like, it's for you.
Dov Davidoff
She goes, are you doing a Zen right now? And I was like, yeah, I've been up for 24 hours. How about you pick up the pace? And I don't need to do as many zins. Okay.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
I don't have these contractions that keep me up.
Dov Davidoff
Yeah, exactly.
Israel Adesanya
Ugh.
Akash Singh
Damn, bro. You sure you're doing with kids, dude?
Israel Adesanya
Nah. Well, eventually. No, I can't wait. I know I'm going to be a great dad, but. But you can't go looking for this. Cuz I told Alex about it before and we, you know, he's seen like, there's. Yeah.
Akash Singh
You getting you him.
Israel Adesanya
The magician or the oven cleaner. I heard. But who said that that was you he was dating? Advice. We're talking about it before. And I said, like, these are jokes. Yeah, jokes. Anyway, he just.
Akash Singh
For me.
Israel Adesanya
I'm sure you've been there as well. You guys have been there. You're like, it's. You have to not. Not look, because then you attract the wrong thing. Just chill and the right thing will come to you. So me, I just focus on myself being the best version of myself.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
And then eventually I was the best version of myself.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, you can go get that stuff.
Akash Singh
Too long because Dove's been doing that and he's nowhere even close together. I know. He talks about it every single time. He just. Oh, interesting. Introduce me to a Jewish girl, give me the money, and then it never happens. Okay. You want to tell them what you said to me now?
Israel Adesanya
About that.
Akash Singh
That you dated a Jewish girl?
Israel Adesanya
No, no, no, no, no. I didn't say I dated a Jewish girl. I said, his name's Israel. Why keep. My name is Israel? I said I had a Jewish friend that I can. Yeah, I can hang out with. But then he. He said, no, you're not allowed to do that. No, I'm not allowed to do that. But my name's Israel for one, so it's fine. Fine.
Akash Singh
Just one of those.
Israel Adesanya
That's what I said, so it's fine. And also I got approval now.
Akash Singh
Wait, wait, wait, wait. So you just knocking down some nice Jewish broad in New Zealand?
Israel Adesanya
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is here in New York.
Akash Singh
My own friend fill those shoes. Show me if. If she's Izzy, she doesn't want you. Oh, my God.
Israel Adesanya
It's better than that. It's the fact that, you know, D even knows he's. He's a low key here. He's got.
Akash Singh
No, no.
Israel Adesanya
He's like, what do you need? What do you need? He's like, what do you need? Let me know. What's your type? What's your type? I'm like, I'll send you pictures.
Akash Singh
Pimping.
Israel Adesanya
He's pimping.
Akash Singh
He is a person. Do that. He's more like a match. I was. I'm a matchmaker. I see, I see. I heard that wrong.
Israel Adesanya
You trying to like, hey, yeah.
Akash Singh
Why do you need just like throw women's bodies around you? But that's disgusting. They have feelings, you know, they want to be spoken to and cared about. Yeah. I don't know. Just saying. Yeah, but no dove is like masterful with Brazilian girls. With like a 72 Brazilian. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Israel Adesanya
I respect the guy. God, I.
Akash Singh
Any Brazilian that has that accent, because they're actually absolutely bat a cup of tea.
Israel Adesanya
Exactly.
Akash Singh
That is cup of te. Don't let him tear us apart. I'm just doing that.
Dov Davidoff
They're not. They're not Brazilian, bro.
Akash Singh
No, they're not. They might actually. He says that they're these girls, they always.
Dov Davidoff
Come on.
Akash Singh
They're like, how are you doing? And they're like. He's like, no, they're from Rio.
Dov Davidoff
Yeah, they're from RiRi.
Akash Singh
Oh, tough dude. Well, at least you're not racist. Like Miles straight.
Israel Adesanya
I'm not even in.
Akash Singh
Just joking, but not at all. Listen, Miles went home, he had no electricity. He goes, I don't know how people live like this. We're like, who are you talking about, dude?
Israel Adesanya
Wait, what happened? When was this?
Akash Singh
I flew home to go see my parents. And then hurricane Florida and then say.
Israel Adesanya
Like South Africa or something crazy.
Akash Singh
Dude, that'd be so sick if it's international. How cool.
Israel Adesanya
Why?
Mark Gagnon
Because they oppress black people.
Akash Singh
It's actually a really funny character, like a not racist person. But that just says. Yeah, you would like that. Yeah. Sorry, dude. Way to bring up South Africa, man. Come on, dude. Yeah, that's your people. Are you and him cool?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, we're cool. After the fight, we had a nice discussion. Yeah, it was cool. Yeah.
Akash Singh
Was that a private thing or would you share that? Private?
Israel Adesanya
It was cool. Just like a moment. And at the end he just said, if you're ever in South Africa, you know, tap in. I was like, yeah, sure. And I said, when we see you again, I'll try and kill you. And he goes, I'll Try and kill you too. And we just hugged and I did this shit. And this is why I'm not beating those allegations, because I went, hey, yes, yes. Well, he laughed and then decided we just hugged and that was it.
Akash Singh
I thought it was a good moment.
Mark Gagnon
It seems like the textbook, like, troll where he will talk all kinds of shit before the fight and then after the fight. The most humble. Nice.
Israel Adesanya
That's how most fighters are. There's only some who take it to that place and then, like, keep it like that after the fight. But nah, we're all on the same journey. And again, he's achieved his dream now.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
No matter what. Even was. The recent one I saw was Marab in Georgia when they're hailing him. Oh, man, that was crazy. So whenever I see that, no matter what, it makes me feel awake because I'm like, yo, I know that feeling. I've done that too.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
So it's. It's. Yeah, you can. If I hate on that. Who. What does that say about me?
Akash Singh
100%.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. So I always respect.
Mark Gagnon
Sorry. Do you find yourself. I know before the fight you're saying, like, this is real. I'm. Whatever. Do you find yourself having to get to that place and like, build up to that place? Or is it. Does it get harder as you get more successful to find that extra gear? Kind of what we talked about earlier. But to find that, you know what? I need to hate this guy because then I'm gonna lock in like I used to lock in.
Israel Adesanya
Nah, it can. That was real. But it doesn't get harder unless, say, like, Jeff had. My friend had this stat saying, like, whenever you fight someone, you don't really have any static. You fight different even if you beat. Beat them. But whenever I have beef with someone, I. I now I annihilate them normally. So, yeah, as I get older, now I'm thinking about it, I'm like. Like I might have to tap into something else just to get that or not fight from that place. Yeah, that's. You know what I mean?
Mark Gagnon
Seems like there's a ceiling on that.
Israel Adesanya
Kind of like there's only so much.
Akash Singh
But not everybody can fight from a different place.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Like, you fight from one place your entire life. That is your motivation. And then you get to. You get to a time in your life where, like, you're. You feel really achieved. Like that giant hole that you have that you're trying. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
But what's less big is he knowing.
Akash Singh
You for the last however long we've known each other five years or something like that. Like longer even your level of confidence in yourself. I think people always assumed you were the most confident person. And even now, seeing the way that you've handled that, like this loss, like to me, that's the demonstration of confidence.
Mark Gagnon
That's real confidence.
Akash Singh
Because if you lose and then you're completely wiped out, that means that your confidence and identity is wrapped in being the victor. And we will not always be the victor in life. So whatever that lady in the Winnebago is telling you.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, yeah, she's right, Jenna. Yeah. So again, we talked about it as well. Talk about. And I used the avatar Zuko, the firebender, when he became friends with Aang. And then they had to. He had to find a new way to fire bend because he didn't have that anger anymore. They met the original firebenders, the dragons, and they relearned firebending. So for me, that's one of the main reasons I haven't even been to the jungles yet, because I just know that it's not my whole feel, but I like having that. You know, I'm a fucking show you. Yeah, like that. You fucking kidding me?
Akash Singh
I like the chip. The chip is a great motivation. Yeah, yeah.
Israel Adesanya
On who? Bernard Hopkins.
Mark Gagnon
He always brings up Bernard Hopkins.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Bernard was. Was a perfect example of that. Like when he was the heel, he was unstoppable. And then sometimes the heel becomes a face.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
And I think that he was less effective as a face.
Israel Adesanya
Okay.
Akash Singh
Like when we were all rooting for him. Yeah, I think it was. He just didn't know what to do with it. When he was taking the Puerto Rican flag in Puerto Rico and ripping and stepping on it, he was unstoppable. I mean, mauled Trinidad like it was. I just. It's a. Yeah. It's a peculiar thing that only you guys really understand.
Israel Adesanya
I mean, we all understand in our own ways. But wait, we're fighting because of what we have to do. Even I won't say the name, but someone in the game who has done what I've done, even achieved greater heights, said, yeah, don't do it till after fighting.
Akash Singh
Don't. What's that?
Israel Adesanya
Go to the jungles or like tap into those plant medicines till after fighting.
Akash Singh
Ah, cuz it's gonna.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, he felt like it changed in a little way. Even like what Deontay Wilder was talking about. He went to Peru, I think. Yeah. And then allegedly, people have said now he hasn't f. He has even he said it after his post fight recently. He Said, yeah, I found inner peace or something like that. Ra Ra. And then people said, it's taking away that cuz, bro. He was the guy knocking out everybody left, right, and center. The highest KO ratio in boxing. But again, I think it's just finding a different place to fight for him. Even if you've done that because people have done it and be successful, but there's levels.
Akash Singh
This is odd.
Israel Adesanya
Bernard Hopson did it because, like, he ended up finding ending being he became champion, like, 50 or something.
Akash Singh
Well, I think what he did is he became the underdog again.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, he did.
Akash Singh
When he was fighting as an old man. Right. So, like, while he might have been the face, it was still like, nobody believes in me. Nobody believes I can do it because I'm so old. And I'm gonna prove you wrong.
Israel Adesanya
I hated being the favorite at some point because some people, I'm like, why you still have me as the favorite? Even in the second Alex potato fight, I was like, I'm the favorite still?
Akash Singh
Yeah, bro.
Israel Adesanya
Bro, I didn't like it. So I do. Like, it's not the whole feel because again, I do tap in with. Love the people that really show me. Love the people that are around me. The messages I get. Some of the messages I get, man, I'm just like, bro, you don't even know me, but you know me. And it fills me with joy and it fills me with pride. And those are the people I fight for when I tap into that. But also the ones that don't believe in me and say all this shit, I'm like, I'm gonna fucking show you. Cause I like that. But I don't know how long that's gonna last. Asked for. So again, finding new spots to fight for them. And yeah, we'll see. Even train form. I'm trying it out. Yeah.
Akash Singh
Yeah, we're transferring that to something else. I mean, it's, you know, it's on some level, probably an addiction. You see some people, like, they quit drinking then become like, workout aholics.
Israel Adesanya
Find something else.
Akash Singh
Yeah, but you can't just go. Well, a lot of people just can't just go cold turkey in life. Like, you need to fill that, you know, sitting around.
Israel Adesanya
That's me after fighting. I was saying this to Joe as well after fighting. And that's why I say, now, who knows what's going to happen after fighting? But I say I would need something to do every few months that will make me feel like I'm about to die. So one of the things is, like, say, I'll train for three months or two months and then cool, let's go running with the bulls. But I'll train for two months on how to run with the bulls. Do it. Maybe some sheep first. We're gonna keep some sheep in New Zealand. Like fucking run with the sheep or whatever. And then eventually. Cause that would just get me up. That would make me feel like fuck, walk. Whoa. Joe said dumb ways to die. I agree. But what a rush. I would do that. I would do shark diving. I never thought I would because water, but you know.
Dov Davidoff
What do you mean because water?
Akash Singh
Yeah. What about the water?
Israel Adesanya
I mean, I surf once, twice, three times maybe. But I just. Me and water don't mix. I don't. I'm not buoyant.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
I can say if you put me in the middle of the ocean right now, I probably have like 20 minutes or 30 minutes before I'm like, I'm done. Done. Because I can try and tread water, but I'm so dense. I'm skinny, don't float. I'm so dense. So. Yeah, but shark diving, scuba tank in a cage, reinforced. I'll try it just for fun. Yeah, like with a great white. Yeah, that'd be skydive. Done it twice. Once in Abu Dhabi. The first one. Amazing life changing experience. That was last year. In the last year. And then I did a random one this year just for fun. And the second time wasn't as thrilling, but it was, it was just cool to see.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Like everything.
Akash Singh
You're not focused on surviving the first one.
Israel Adesanya
I was just like, I wasn't even scared. So like that Skydive. Still have the McLaren. I don't drive fast though. But I've taken to the track a couple times. Oh really?
Akash Singh
So you just need to feel like you're going to die at the moment.
Israel Adesanya
So again, who knows? When I have a kid, I might be like, I need to live.
Akash Singh
Yeah, that does happen.
Israel Adesanya
You know. So again, that might really does happen. It's just freedom of thought. I'm saying that now because that's how I feel. I feel like I'll need something that's going to make me feel like I'm about to. Because, you know, I like that. I like that. Like a white boy. Yeah.
Akash Singh
For no reason. He's a Kiwi, bro.
Israel Adesanya
Different breed. If you grew up out there, trust me, you'd be, you'd be, you'd be different. Yeah.
Akash Singh
Yeah, but that's a fighter thing.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Like fighters cannot let go, man. Like, because what is. Could even come close to it what could come close?
Israel Adesanya
That's why I said, when I'm done, I'm done. And I know that feeling. I talked to, even with Jason Miller about it as well, because we little thing in la. But. But that feeling when you're backstage, you've done the last fucking warmup or whatever, and then it's, you know, yo, going on in five minutes. Five minutes. And then, you know, two minutes, and then counting down. Okay, Israel, time to go. Cool. You walk out, stand here, wait on your mark, and then it's like, we're going on in 60 seconds, and they're waiting there, and then everyone's behind you, your coaches, you turn around, you might give, like, a little fist bump, something. And then you get out there, you get through the tunnel, you get the fucking wave. You see everything. Everything. I wish I could actually describe this to people. Maybe I'll do a VR experience with it one time and just say, oh, this is an idea for the ufc. Do it. Honestly, it's crazy because you walk out, you see everything. Everything. People are yelling. You can see all the people in the rafters.
Dov Davidoff
Intense focus. You could probably highlight little things because your mind is.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. On my answer. Silverfight. I saw one of my friends, understand, and I winked at him. And he goes. And again. That's just the thing. You can just see everything. You're so focused. But, yeah, that's nothing like it. Nothing like it.
Akash Singh
What is life like? When that's not happening?
Israel Adesanya
I have to let go. And that's why I've seen a lot of guys like, what's that movie? The Wrestler?
Akash Singh
No, no, I mean now, like. Like, in between fights. Like, is. Are you craving it? Are you thinking about, like, or can you adjust to that kind of normal level?
Israel Adesanya
I've learned how to, because even, you know, shout out to Volkanovski. He talked about it as well. When, you know, he took the fight with Islam.
Akash Singh
He said, it's hard.
Israel Adesanya
Like, that's why don't give me free time. Time and a lot of money.
Akash Singh
So, for me, so many fighters have said that. They're like, you got Tommy Morrison. Remember that boxer? They're like, you got to keep him in the gym.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, keep me busy.
Akash Singh
And he ended up getting aids. Which gym? Was he inside? But, like. But it is true. Like, there must be. It just must be an experience.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Like, don't get me wrong, like, being on stage, and I felt certain things that are unbelievable, remarkable. I don't even think it scratches the surface of what it's like to be in that arena, knowing you could die.
Israel Adesanya
It's a danger. I was going to say you. You felt it. All of you have felt it. It's the same thing. It's relative. But the aspect of danger. Danger is just that thing that's the sauce, and that makes it like. Cause you're like, I'm about to go against this guy, and you're not thinking this, but you just know this is a possibility that I could get in this, I could get sparked, but also I could do that to this guy. And that's the gambler. I'm a gambling man, but I like to calculate my risks. Yeah.
Akash Singh
Shout out to Stank. Honestly, Steak boys in the building right now.
Israel Adesanya
We outside.
Akash Singh
So while we're here and we're having. This is like a supercharged steak segment because we got, you know, Izzy in the motherfucking. And you know that Jon Jones and Aspinall are about to go at it.
Israel Adesanya
Stipe.
Akash Singh
Oh, my God, Stipe.
Israel Adesanya
I mean, that's the fight.
Akash Singh
I said the fight we all want. So. Yeah. What are we thinking about the Stipe fight?
Israel Adesanya
I think Stipe is a legend in the game. One of, if not the greatest heavyweight ever. Yeah, but Jon Jones is now a heavyweight, the heavyweight champion and one of, if not the greatest fighter ever. But I just want to see what Stipe looks like first. Maybe in the coming weeks. So the fight's next month. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to see. But Jon Jones, I think the. The. What you call it, Cyril Gan's fight, I was like, oh, that's going to be hard.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Easy. So I think he might even make this one easier.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
I just feel like Jon is just a guy you can't. You can't doubt. Because that one I thought, like, oh, Sarah Gan is new level heavyweight.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Similar size, footwork, can grapple. Nah, I was just. Okay. Yeah. Now Jon's that guy. He's that guy. So I think him and his bro.
Akash Singh
Sitting next to us at the Sphere.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, yeah.
Akash Singh
And I'm glad that you guys patched things up. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
When that happened, that was.
Akash Singh
Airport or something.
Israel Adesanya
No, no, at the bar. And then his manager just goes, you know, Izzy's behind you. Right. And he turns around and goes, yo. And I'm like, yo. And we just dapped up.
Mark Gagnon
Oh, that's great.
Israel Adesanya
And that was just like a moment, like, for me as a fan, because I've always been a fan.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And we had beef. I was just like, well, this guy. But then we still always respected each other.
Akash Singh
Sure.
Israel Adesanya
So that was a. That Was a cool moment for me.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Because you know, you my boy, so I'm glad that you guys are cool.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, I agree.
Akash Singh
He's cool as.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, nice.
Akash Singh
Cool. Like there's like, obviously you guys need to be like, professional. But, like, when there's no cameras on, like, the jokes are flying like football. So they like.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, I know, Trust me. We're at the bar for about 40 minutes and we talked about everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Trust me.
Akash Singh
So it's hard to bet against John in that one. I don't. Yeah, I don't see.
Israel Adesanya
Also, he's great. He's on, like I said, the greatest fighter we've ever seen.
Akash Singh
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I think that's going to be. What else. What else coming up is interesting. I'm trying to think, like, I mean.
Mark Gagnon
Do you think he fights Aspinall or do you think he does this and retires?
Israel Adesanya
Who knows? He says he.
Mark Gagnon
He keeps saying he's going to retire. I would love to see that.
Israel Adesanya
That could be a play. This is chess, not checkers, you know that.
Mark Gagnon
I hope so.
Israel Adesanya
That is true.
Akash Singh
If he says, I'm not fighting again, and then when UFC goes, hey, we really want you to. That number might go up.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
So he could be working game for sure. Who wins?
Mark Gagnon
Aspen all.
Akash Singh
John Jones, if that does happen.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, that's. They gotta fight.
Akash Singh
I think it's hard to go against John, bro.
Israel Adesanya
He finds a way. He finds a way. But Aspinall, so far, the way he dispatched off the Russian guy. Oh, my God.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And he's fast. I met him.
Akash Singh
That's the thing, he's fast.
Israel Adesanya
Sat next to him at 300. He and his dad, cool dudes, lovely guys as well. But he's the same height as me, if not an inch taller. But thick.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And I was like, fuck, you're a lot thicker than I would expect. And the speed. Yeah, that's the thing that I'm like, okay, that's the danger. But again, grappling. He's a black belt. But Jon is fucking.
Akash Singh
It's different.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, yeah, but I don't know, man. They gotta fight, but if they don't ever fight, we'll never know. Because we had that with Jordan and Silva. We had that with Silva and gsp. So all these fights we will never see.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
You know, so we just have to have them in the ether forever and ever.
Akash Singh
And we'll talk about it here. But if you do, you're gonna.
Mark Gagnon
If you bet on these, you're going.
Akash Singh
To bet with steak.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, shout out Steak, bro.
Akash Singh
They be taking care of you.
Israel Adesanya
Steak. Yeah, shout out Steak.
Akash Singh
Go, go to Steak. Go get your money up. Do we have a sign up code.
Israel Adesanya
Or anything like that?
Akash Singh
J Flagrant. Flagrant sign up code to get your sign up bonus. Go check. Check out Steak. I'm sure Izzy got one as well. You could probably use either, but use ours. This is Dub's deal. Let's get back, get back to the show, man.
Israel Adesanya
But you actually worried me. Something you said before because you said like some of the pressure is a bit lifted off of you because you're not defending the belt. So you're maybe you're looking forward to trying more things in the ring and having fun. But doesn't that come with heavy risk, like trying well calculated risks? Yeah, it's a harder foundation bout. You just do it. So again, like when I fought what's his name, like Tavares, when I did that in the fight or even the first Vettori fight, there was this move, spin move with the kick I did. I'd never tried it in the gym, but I was like, oh, I saw Mali do and it landed and it's now always on my highlights. So those kind of things, I just had the confidence to do them back then because I just do it. Yeah. And if I, if I'm confident in myself, like my tornado kick and kickboxing, I'd never tried it on my training mates because it's really dangerous. But then I knocked down the heavyweight with it in the ring live. First time ever trying it. I've tried it on pads, tried it on the bag, but I never tried on a real person. Inspiring. And I had him against the ropes, Boom, hit him. So shit like that. I want to try and just have fun because I'm not really. Again, my, my legacy is I said this already. If, if what I've already done in this game, a lot of people don't even get to the belt. A lot of people don't even get to the ufc. But I've done it twice, still the only two time middleweight champion. And if what I've already done in this game won't make me happy, than what will? Exactly what's going to make me happy? It's like, no, I'm happy, but I'm not content. I still have a few things I want to try, a few moves I want to do, few, few sequences that I just feel and some I don't even know about, they're just gonna, when I see them on the highlights, I'd be Like, oh, that was tight. So they're yet to come. So I look forward to creating those. Yeah, that's the artist in me.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Because I just like again, submission. I know I'm a choker out. I'm. I'm definitely gonna get one of those.
Akash Singh
The tricky. Yeah, the tricky thing is like whenever you fight there's gonna be demand and attention. There are certain people that their career ends not because they want attend.
Israel Adesanya
You got to break up a fighting before fighting breakups with you.
Akash Singh
And sometimes it, it breaks up with them and that's got to be. Think about how brutal that is because you're like, I still need to see it. Still.
Israel Adesanya
I mean I've seen, I've seen it even in my own gym with some people and I'm just like, bro, he should stop because he's older than this. And then you see the fighting. It's like. But you can't say anything.
Akash Singh
It's not what is the conversation.
Israel Adesanya
Like that's the coaches. So they have to have that conversation.
Akash Singh
And will they do it?
Israel Adesanya
Oh yeah, you definitely.
Akash Singh
And how does that go? Like will Eugene like sit somebody down and say I haven't seen.
Israel Adesanya
It hasn't happened to me. But I think probably most coaches who care about you will let you know like bro, I think it's time like you just. And they'll see it and let you know. And if you don't want to listen, you still stubborn. And then they'll support you because you're going to do it anyway. Yeah, if you're going to do it anyway, then they're like, okay, cool. But aren't the coaches incentivized to having the fighters fight as long as possible? So then they continue getting. That's the coaches. If they don't care about their fighters like these gyms who have fighters that just like cattle.
Akash Singh
It's a fail.
Israel Adesanya
Exactly. Or managers who have fucking 300 fighters on their roster. It's just, you know, they can't care about all of them. Some of them it's just they're getting 10%, 20% here. It all adds up. And they end up being rich. So it's about caring about somebody, someone and caring about their well being. So yeah, you don't want to put someone in there. You just on the world state and that's it. Because then the stock of your gym, the stock of your, your fighters goes down. And yeah, you want to keep it up. So I know you just not that kind of guy. Like he'll me and him even before that I think I'll know before him. And probably even at the same time. We'll know. We'll just know. And then it'll be like, yeah, I'll know when it's time.
Mark Gagnon
When do you want to break up with fighting?
Israel Adesanya
Sorry, I'll break up with fighting. You know when it would even. Like, it's not even. It's not. You can't say we're fighting.
Akash Singh
It's.
Israel Adesanya
It's not you, it's me. It is me. Because fighting is always going to be there, but it's me. Like, it's Father Time. We'll catch up with all of us at some point. Like I said, now I have to have breakfast because I realize, okay, that actually helps you fuel you before your first training, rather than just rolling out of bed and then, cool, let's get to the gym. Do the damn thing. But, yeah, when will I. I don't know. But I know I said at 20. Something I say, when I'm 34, I'm done with this game. I'm 35 now. Yeah, but I know I still. I said I'm over the halfway point, and I'm definitely a few years away, maybe three years away, but who knows? I know I don't want to be fighting at 40.
Dov Davidoff
Would you do an exhibition?
Israel Adesanya
Go to Japan, have some fun, make some money, maybe some wrestling, maybe. But, like, after the ufc, that's the. What? What the else. Like, bro, all this, go box or go do this. I'm like, nah, yeah, I've been on the top, the baddest of the baddest with the baddest of the baddest. Like, what else compares? Like, the ufc, you know, they get a lot of flack, but still, it's the highest combat sports league in the game right now. So what else compares to that for me? And that was my dream, to be in the UFC and then be a champion. And then, so I'm going to go box some YouTuber for, I mean, fuck, 20 million, bro. But I'm saying, look, I'll pray on it. Inshallah, I'll pray on it. But we'll see. We'll see. But, like, I just don't think anything because of my code and my morals as well. And, like, again, I'm not desperate for it. So, yeah, I'm not desperate for that kind of money because, again, shout out to my pops. He's looked after the family. The family seats. So, yeah, I think there's other ways to make money. Voiceover, acting, fucking video game. The video game World is crazy. Yeah. So much more money than Hollywood.
Akash Singh
Yeah. You know, because people are actually playing video games.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Other people ain't watching movies like they used to. Yeah. Yeah. Like, so many new games. I gotta go home. And there's Wukong I'm playing, and then Warhammer I'm playing as well right now. I don't know if you guys. You guys on game? No, not nerds. Yeah. But, yeah, for me, those games might not keep me busy. And I can see myself doing motion capture for those kind of.
Akash Singh
That'd be sick.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. I'm great at motor. I've never done motion capture, but I know for a fact I'd be really good at creating certain things with motion capturing. The possibilities are endless because I could be whatever.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
You know what I mean? So. Yeah. That I'd love to get into.
Akash Singh
I think that a lot of people, like, outside of. Of fighting, can't fathom that anybody does it for another reason besides money.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Akash Singh
You know, and. And, like, the more that you talk about it, the less I feel you've ever done it for money.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. My people free for years.
Akash Singh
Exactly. So it's like. So the idea. Desire to keep fighting is to scratch the itch that is still there. Whereas everybody else goes, yeah, he's so rich and he's got everything, and he's got his health. He's got it. Like, why would you even want to do it? And then you're like, well, the same reason I did it for free.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Because it is the thing in life that excites me the most. It motivates me the most. It's the reason I get up in the morning. It's like, I imagine when you have a fight sign, like the three months before, it's like, every single day has purpose. Every single day is meaningful.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
And, yeah. I think that's the perspective. You got to look at it through.
Israel Adesanya
This camp was my best camp in the sense that I did everything because again, Father time, you realize the way your body operates. So I did the massages every week, what you call it, ice baths every day. The breakfast, the nutrition was on the strength and conditioning. Like, and there was not one day this camp, because again, other camps, some days I wake up, I'm like, fuck my body. And just like, ah. But this last camp, one day. There's not one day where I woke up. I was just like, this is a drag, you know? So it was. And it's because I did all the things, all the little things.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
See me at night with the Hyper ice boot boots on. You know, the ones that. Yeah, late. I think ballers use it as well.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
So I, I was, I was on that and Dove uses it too. Yeah. But, yeah, so for me, I'm always. I'm always trying to find ways to. How can I make this better? How can I make the next camp better? How can I make myself better? And again, where we've done the testing, now I know where we're at and I look forward to the next one. And whenever that is, man, I don't know. But best believe you'll see the best version of me again.
Akash Singh
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Israel Adesanya
Hopefully.
Akash Singh
Hopefully. We all hope. But if you're still around even after the bad times, you might be legit. We hope you're legit. Check better. Clear point that I'm trying to make right here now is we shouted them out and all of a sudden they're like, let's do some business now. Is this terrifying? Absolutely. Okay, I just want to point out right now, I just want to say this, right? Coffeezilla, we're doing our best, okay? Coffeezilla is all above sea level, whatever that term is.
Israel Adesanya
That's boring.
Akash Singh
Hey, listen. Hey, listen, Coffeezilla, you let us know if we're doing something wrong, put on them suspenders, do whatever you need, but we are what is above board. Above board. We're above board.
Israel Adesanya
Yes.
Akash Singh
Okay.
Israel Adesanya
I love everything. Coffee.
Akash Singh
We love Coffeezilla. Godzilla love Asians, all zillas, everything, but especially Coffeezilla, okay? Kraken, yeah. Is the exchange that we're working with. Okay? Coffee, you hit me up. There's anything that you see. Okay? All right. But Kraken is the one that we shouted out. And Kraken was like, yo, let's do some business. Yeah. They're all flush because bitcoin's at like 93 grand right now. So they're cooking, okay. They want to talk to the boys. Okay. Do a little business. We're down to do business. Coffee's. Oh, hopefully this is.
Israel Adesanya
This is.
Akash Singh
Okay.
Dov Davidoff
This is. Listen, hopefully it's not bank fraud.
Akash Singh
Hopefully it's not bank fraud. I think it seems pretty legit.
Dov Davidoff
I think it is.
Akash Singh
Seems pretty legit. They've been around here for 13 years. There's not sandbank for free. There's none of that shit. Okay? What I'm trying to say is Kraken. God, this is scary. Kraken is where it's at.
Dov Davidoff
We're going to jail, bro.
Akash Singh
Listen, we're probably going to jail. We're going to go to jail together anyway. Not only is cracking and where it's at.
Israel Adesanya
That's what you told me in Sweden too.
Akash Singh
Shouldn't have violated the law. Shouldn't have violated the law. The point that I'm trying to make is Kraken put 10 grand into each one of our accounts and we got to buy our own crypto with it, which we are not endorsing in any way, shape or form. This is not an endorsement. Matter of fact, if I was you, I wouldn't buy anything I bought.
Dov Davidoff
I'm already down, to be honest with you. It got deposited my account, I looked at it. It was less than what he said.
Akash Singh
Hear that, Coffee Zilla? Do hear what we're saying right now?
Dov Davidoff
We're being defrauded.
Akash Singh
We? Your boy is up. I'm just letting you know your boy is up. He might be inside a trading coffee. Go look at him.
Dov Davidoff
Go look at him. Look him up.
Akash Singh
Look at him up. But my point is, my name is Akash Singh. My point is we have all been given that 10 grand. And listen, and after how long are we going to do until we.
Israel Adesanya
End of the summer.
Akash Singh
After end of the summer. Okay, the winner.
Israel Adesanya
Your boy's up.
Akash Singh
I'm just laying gets a full investigative piece by call this the winner. So we are actively trying to lose money over here. Listen, if Kraken want to give us their money to lose, we gonna lose it.
Dov Davidoff
Let it be.
Akash Singh
Okay, but the winner gets investigated by Coffeezilla. Full and again. Coffee, if you sense any foul play. We're too stupid to know if we play foul. Yeah, all you gotta do is hit us up.
Israel Adesanya
Word.
Akash Singh
All you gotta do is hit us up. You don't even need to hit us up. Just put a video about. If you put one suspender over your shoulder, we'll delete the whole pocket. Okay, we deleted the whole podcast. If one suspender goes over his shoulder, that strikes enough fear in our souls. We delete the whole podcast. Yes, but Kraken. Kraken is where we're going to be doing our crypto, okay? So let's hope bitcoin keeps rising. Let's hope that every annoying crypto dude out there thinks they're a genius. Now the crypto's up. I liked it when they got had a little humility. Oh, wait. You ain't know I'm a genius now. The arrogant like you ain't know the arrogance. The arrogance. Arrogance. To arrogance.
Israel Adesanya
Trump got elected.
Akash Singh
I became a genius. My picks. Go get him Suspenders. Coffee. Get him.
Dov Davidoff
He bought crypto and a cyber truck. The Second Trump got elected. Isn't that crazy?
Akash Singh
Catam coffee.
Dov Davidoff
This guy's maga.
Akash Singh
Dark MAGA coffee. Anyway, Kraken. Listen, I just want to let you guys know, once again, this is not investment advice. Matter of fact, it's the opposite. We're going to lose our money. Yes. If you want to lose money, then you pay attention to us. Okay? Okay. Crypto trading involves risk of loss and is offered to US customers, excluding Washington, New York and Maine. I'm pretty sure that's what those are. Killed that right? Through PayWord Interactive, Inc. You heard that disclosure I just gave right there? That's really important. Anyway, if you go right now to kraken.com flagrant or you just scan the QR code on the screen, and that QR code better be legit. Start your crypto journey today with Kraken. It's been around for 13 years and had no struggles, so you can trust it. Yeah, you can trust. Okay. It's all about trust. It's all about trust.
Israel Adesanya
Yes.
Akash Singh
And doing everything above board.
Israel Adesanya
Yes. I love that.
Akash Singh
And staying above sea level also. Those things are important.
Dov Davidoff
Yes.
Akash Singh
And if for whatever reason, we are investigated, I'm so sorry. We can just go back to this time right here where we said we're horrible.
Dov Davidoff
Yes, exactly.
Akash Singh
But I love that these crypto companies are making money so they can give us money.
Dov Davidoff
Yeah.
Akash Singh
That's great.
Dov Davidoff
Are we allowed to say what we invested in, or is that where it gets illegal? No, you can say we invested in U.S. treasury bonds.
Akash Singh
You really trying to. That now, that's what I'm talking about. I like that.
Dov Davidoff
Bonds.
Akash Singh
I didn't even know we could do that. Can we. That is.
Dov Davidoff
That's not what they want you to do.
Akash Singh
That is.
Dov Davidoff
But I think that's going to keep me out of the investigation.
Akash Singh
Sec.
Dov Davidoff
I'm on your team.
Israel Adesanya
All right.
Akash Singh
Just let the record show I am not worried about the sec. There's no cameras in this. Wait a minute. That's the only camera in this one. And then that one.
Israel Adesanya
I was looking.
Akash Singh
You're just looking at a tripod. You just. See? This is how it starts. This is how it starts.
Dov Davidoff
We're on tough times, bro.
Akash Singh
We only got two cameras. This is how it starts.
Dov Davidoff
We are bleeding money, bro.
Akash Singh
This is how it starts. Can we park money to bhc? Listen, you. You plead poverty. You plead poverty, and then coffee. Dill does some investigative research, and turns out you're actually a trillion there.
Dov Davidoff
No, no, no, no, no, no.
Akash Singh
It's not like Camp Gagnon is over. Camp Is canceled.
Dov Davidoff
No, no, don't do that.
Akash Singh
It looks like not going to be any camp sign ups this year.
Dov Davidoff
No, no, don't do that.
Akash Singh
Yeah, that's could happen. They gonna cut down that treehouse. We're gonna light that on fire. Please don't happen. Watch out. It's all done. We don't do you try to get cute. I told you guys. I was like, listen, I think we should just stay away from the crypto. You guys were like. But there's so much money. And we didn't. We.
Israel Adesanya
We did.
Dov Davidoff
We didn't do a stereotypical Jewish accent.
Akash Singh
That wasn't Jewish. We didn't do that. All right, let me try that again. Again. Oh, but there's so much money in it somehow.
Dov Davidoff
Still accurate.
Akash Singh
Let me try one more time.
Dov Davidoff
It's like less raises.
Akash Singh
Let try one more time. But there's so much money in it. That's okay. All that actually good. That's a Jamaican guy that wants money is totally fine now.
Israel Adesanya
It is.
Akash Singh
Oh my Lord. Man, listen. Shout out a food truck. Shout out Kraken is what I'm trying to say. Legally. You could legally take your own risk and invest your money in there to do your crypto stuff which is obviously a risk and you could do it legally. Anything you guys want to say else?
Dov Davidoff
Not guilty.
Akash Singh
That's what I'm saying. I blame Akash. What Akash do. He's hard.
Israel Adesanya
They already got him.
Akash Singh
We kept him out of this one on purpose.
Dov Davidoff
Coffee Zilla's got him behind the building right now.
Israel Adesanya
Where are they?
Akash Singh
Show me the money. All right, man. But for real, we got to get back to the show while we still have one. And we appreciate y'all. So go right now to kraken.com flagrant or scan that QR code. All right, well, the Strickland DDP is interesting because you probably want rematch with. Do you care about the Strickland fight again?
Israel Adesanya
I do. Oh yeah.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Come on, man.
Akash Singh
Yeah, I want that back.
Israel Adesanya
Come on, man. Again. I know me and I know where I was during that. That fight week and all that. And again. That was his time. It was his week.
Akash Singh
That's the only fight of yours I haven't watch live.
Israel Adesanya
Ah, really?
Akash Singh
You just like we've known each other.
Israel Adesanya
Damn.
Akash Singh
So that's my fault. Sorry.
Israel Adesanya
I forgive you. You on stage. I think so.
Dov Davidoff
But I remember that you came upstairs.
Israel Adesanya
It felt weird.
Akash Singh
The only fight.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, but it felt weird for me. And then like in the fight itself, like when he dropped me. I remember getting up and I'M like, oh, this nigga's hitting me. Oh, he's hitting me. And I looked at Mark go. And there's a picture of him like, I'm good.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And he's still. He's probably like 18 punches deep. Wasn't really hitting me, but it was like hitting the guard. And I'm just like, cool. And I stopped fighting back.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
But the whole fight just felt like a weird dream.
Akash Singh
Out of bounds.
Israel Adesanya
One of the dreams. Yeah. Like, when you're trying to. Like, really? And in a dream, trying to hit the monster, you're like, what the fuck, Noodle? Arms felt weird. And again, it was just his week, his pressure, his game. Yeah, he does apply good pressure and.
Akash Singh
Like, consistent pressure while closing distance.
Israel Adesanya
Wait till I fight him again. Like with DDP. I walked him back a few times.
Akash Singh
100%, because I was. I feel like he was just like. He was effective when he was doing that bum rush thing. What are you thinking as a fighter? Like, literally your entire life at your coaches are going, whatever you do, don't run straight and just throw a big loop of punches.
Mark Gagnon
Put your head down, not even looking.
Akash Singh
But why is it effective, you think?
Israel Adesanya
I think just him as a fighter. The style, the cadence, even his question mark kick, it's so slow.
Akash Singh
But it's clear, though, right?
Israel Adesanya
By the time you block it and come back now, he didn't hit me with it, he had Strickland with it. But I've seen him when he did it, he'd question mark and catch him. But it's so slow. By the time you block, calm down. Then it hits you. Oh, weird. It's weird.
Dov Davidoff
It's like off speed.
Israel Adesanya
Off speed? Yeah, he's off speed.
Mark Gagnon
I remember when Manny Pacquiao fought Manuel, Manuel Marquez or whatever, his trainer, after the third fight or something was like, now that Manny is a more orthodox fighter and more traditional, I think we're gonna have an easier time with him. Because before, we never knew what was coming, where it was coming from. It was so unorthodox, you couldn't figure it out.
Israel Adesanya
That's what I'm saying. The freedom. The freedom to try whatever, you know? But I don't think that's him. I think he's just awkward. That's his style and also will and durability. When he's tired, he'll still go. Because there was a bit in the fourth round, I was lighting him up and he shot, and I sprawled back of his head, my nuts hit him. Boom, into the ground. And I thought I rocked him, maybe, but then I get up and I'm there. And then what's his name? Ref's like, get up. He didn't get up. Gets on his knees and reps like, get up, up. And he finally gets up, and I attack him. And he didn't even care about what. He just wanted to throw, so he threw. And I had to. You have to address it because you know it's something coming at you, but he just throws just to stop you in your tracks. So he's not trying to hit you. He's not doing that aiming fire. He's throwing and hoping. So it just stops you in your tracks. It stops your momentum. And then you have to go again. But as will. He's a stubborn dude. Stubborn dude, but you just have to out will him. And again, I can't wait till I fight, you know, guys like Strickland or whoever. Because now, Pereira, the second fight, I remember thinking, like, I told Eugene, I'm going to stress you out this fight. You know that, right? He's like, what? I'm like, I'm going to stretch. Because I know in the corner, he's going to be like, oh, fuck, that was close. And in the Miami, that was because I was like, no, I'm going to be right there. And I was pushing him back when he pushes me back. And I'm like, nah, it's. It's a. I know how to do it to people.
Akash Singh
So wait, when you go. When you went for Peretta, too, I.
Israel Adesanya
Was like, yeah, let's go. Like I told you, I'm going to stress you out because you had a.
Akash Singh
Lot of confidence going into one. I feel like. And I feel like you were.
Israel Adesanya
I was beating him.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
I mean, round one is 10 seconds long. Longer. It's a first round, three seconds longer.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, that's what I needed. That's. But again, that's. That's the life of it, eh? And then it got to the point where eventually I, you know, I lose to him, I say, all right, let's do it again. Dinner straight away, boom. And then in the part two fight, I'm just like, I'm coming at you. And even when I walk or watch the walkout. Now, wait, wait a minute.
Akash Singh
Hold on, hold on, hold on.
Israel Adesanya
Stop, stop, stop.
Akash Singh
You decide to come at him. Is that strategy? Because you think he thinks that you're gonna be. Got it. Okay.
Israel Adesanya
So they think, oh, he's just gonna move back in. Leg kicks and paw paw. But I'm like, nah, watch this. I told Eugene I'M gonna stretch you to the out. This is like two weeks before the fight. Oh, three weeks before the fight. Two weeks before I hurt my knee. And then. Yeah. So even going into that fight up me, I was just like, I'm gonna attack him and go forward.
Akash Singh
So first round, he. So first round, the first thing that he realizes. Oh, he's not afraid.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
So now his. His mental in that fight is going to be completely.
Israel Adesanya
They expected me to move back and.
Akash Singh
Just kind of counter punch.
Israel Adesanya
So for me, I'm just like, nah, I'm gonna attack him. Because sometimes people forget. Forget I can do that. Until you show them. They're like, oh, he can.
Akash Singh
So you put pressure on.
Israel Adesanya
I can. And then eventually he got me. Pereira, like, certain people just used to taking leg kicks.
Akash Singh
How does that affect.
Israel Adesanya
That's when I'm able to push Pereira backwards. So I go southpaw because I can just check the leg kick from this stance. I could just turn the knee in, and then I was pushing him backwards southpaw. So I'm like, okay, wait, is he traditional? He's. Yeah. Orthodox. Yeah.
Akash Singh
So he's.
Israel Adesanya
He likes orthodox. He can fight both ways, but not as good as he prefers.
Akash Singh
Or. And then when he throws that quick little, it's orthodox.
Israel Adesanya
And if you're orthodox, Orthodox, that's when. So whenever for me, you have to.
Akash Singh
Throw it to the inside of your.
Israel Adesanya
Calf, and they could just. That's easier to check.
Akash Singh
And then you're just leaning into it.
Israel Adesanya
Just turn the knee.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
So for me, when he hurt my leg and then I went south point, and this is by the K, I was like, you know what? How I'm gonna. How I'm gonna bring him in. I just went, give him. So I went. You see me? I switched back to orthodox. I was like, he's gonna take the leg.
Akash Singh
Does seeing the tear that Alex is on right now, does that make the victory feel.
Israel Adesanya
I hope he never stops. Yeah.
Akash Singh
Because it just makes your victory feel so much sweeter. Right.
Israel Adesanya
David, what'd you say the other day? No one's ever gone past two rounds, a round and a half with him. And I never thought about that till he said it. And I was like, oh, yeah. Only Jan, I think, was the only one. Maybe I was just wrestling. Standing on the feet. Yeah. Again, you to stand on the feet with him. And even he said, you told me last night.
Akash Singh
I saw it on Instagram. Hopefully this was a real quote. But they were. He was talking about. They were asking about another guy that, like, I guess was in kickboxing with you guys. I don't know if you had fought him.
Israel Adesanya
I haven't seen it yet.
Akash Singh
I think Alex. And they basically asked him, do you think he'll be successful at ufc? And he's like, he's not Izzy. He's not me. Like, he can't do it. And again, I don't know your guys relationship and even if that's a real quote, because it's on fucking Instagram, but if it is, I think it's a pretty cool admission of respect.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, no, we know. Like, me and him know every time to fight each other is not an easy fight.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And now we've had that rivalry and again, I've said this, people are like, oh, you scared? You scared? I'm like, then why did I fight him straight away after he knocked me out in the biggest fucking arena in the world? But it's not that. This is, for me, the story itself, the host, like, even. What did Dana say you could do a 30 for 30 on us?
Akash Singh
I mean, it's crazy.
Israel Adesanya
And you should, you will, you should, you will. Honestly, like a 30 for 30 ESPN special on our story from kickboxing and then him chasing me and then this. And then we should even do an interview afterwards. Just.
Akash Singh
Just the two of you.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Sit down and I mean, just trauma.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
You know, and then I'll say whatever I said that Shama. And then bro it out.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
It seems like he has a lot of love for you, which I. I like.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Yeah, it's.
Mark Gagnon
Or respect.
Israel Adesanya
It's respect. There's something everybody, like, you knock someone out. Even me, like, I let it go when he knocked me out, I never chased him.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
I'm always fine. Like, look, if the Sean fight never happens again, I'm fine. If you've never been in that situation, you never understand how to let go. You have to be willing to let go. You can't keep chasing these things. So for me, I. I don't chase them. They always come back around. And that's how I know these moments come back around. But yeah, we've had that. If I fight him again and I knock him out, then. Oh, nook, it's three, two now. Best out of seven.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Who am I fighting for? And again, I only have how much more left in the game. I'm not gonna try and, you know, just to entertain people, there's more fights I'd rather do. A couple more rematches, I'd rather do.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
So, yeah, I don't want to keep Chasing the same folks or beating a dead horse or whatever.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Now you said that you believe he actually does use spells.
Israel Adesanya
Look, we all have something. We all have something. Now we're talking a little.
Dov Davidoff
Now we're talking.
Israel Adesanya
Like I said before I fought up in Miami, there was nights I'd just be just in the house, shadow boxing, pacing up and down, microdosed up a little bit or macro dosed or I'll be in the shower. I've said the shower is the greatest place to create shower shrooms. Yes.
Dov Davidoff
That's what you trademark. That's your thing.
Israel Adesanya
Shower shrooms. And just like there was one night, Chance is in bed sleeping, and then I just go in his room, like, towel on, like, Chance, Chance. He's like, huh? What? Oh, shit. I'm like, I'm on. He's like, oh, oh, okay. Like he knew straight what I meant. Because sometimes if he comes home and he hears the same track on a loop and I'm in the shower, he just knows. Ah, he's.
Akash Singh
He's in his own.
Israel Adesanya
He's in there in that void he's creating. So again, I don't know if anyone else does this, but I just am employ people to like these techniques. But yeah, that's my way of like, now he has his ancestors, you know, he has his people from his tribe. And even when I fought Rob the first time in Melbourne, I felt something with him. I've never really spoken on this, but like, everyone has something. I have my parents fasting and praying. I have my uncle who's a pastor, prayer warriors back in Nigeria, praying for me. So. Yeah, but also we all tap into. Because we're indigenous people, we know how to tap into the spirit spirituality of things. So he did definitely has an energy behind him that just props him up, gets him going. And it's hard to explain unless you've been in there with someone. And if, like, if you have, you'll know it's in the eyes, it's in the energy, it's the spirit. So, yeah, you can clown me and say, oh, it's woo, woo, whatever. But again, in the western world, no one really with that. It's all about science and energies and crystals.
Akash Singh
But you felt it with Rob because Rob's what? Maori.
Israel Adesanya
Maori, yeah, there was something different. And also I. Maybe my thing with the Death Note, I don't know. But yeah, also he's the rip, The Grim Reaper, apparently so. But I felt it with Rob. It was something. But, you know, this is things I don't like to Because I grew up in Nigeria. I've seen people get possessed. Yeah, I've seen David, remember at the house in Shangisha when that lady. Do you remember as a kid, five. Oh, yeah. Now you remember. But then this. Yeah, I've seen some shit. We've seen.
Akash Singh
Wait, what happened?
Israel Adesanya
Now talking.
Akash Singh
Yeah, go.
Israel Adesanya
Okay.
Akash Singh
So locked in over divine creation.
Israel Adesanya
Our other brother, Sam, he lived in Nigeria longer than us. And then he came to join us in New Zealand. And he came with so many stories. Like one time after school, one of the students picked up a rubber band and turned into a yam. And then everyone's like, oh, they've turned into a yam. And they cut the yam open and then there was blood. And I was like, you're cap and you're lying. You're lying. And then I went to our dad and he. And I was like, is this true? And he's like. Like, these things happen. Like. Like no cap. And he's not a. Like, he's not like a. He doesn't need it for clout. Yeah, I've seen some stuff in boarding school. Great voice when he laughs and he's rolling. He's hilarious.
Mark Gagnon
Discouraging. We haven't heard that in an hour and a half.
Israel Adesanya
But it's true. It's true. It's true. I've seen some stuff. Again, the one I was talking about in the house after school, we used to just hear random noises from the house above us constantly just, what the. She's speaking in tongues. And then one night, I remember, like maybe around 2 or 3am, the whole house, there was commotion. And then they took her to a church or something to go pray. And then I tried to see it. My parents were like, just go in your room. Go in your room and look. Lock the door. And then I tried to ask the housemaids the next day what happened. But everyone just kept, you know, ah, da, da, da, da, whatever, whatever. But I found out later on it was. She passed the thing on. It was a housemaid from upstairs. She passed it to the mom and the mom passed it to the kids. And then the dad was the only one who didn't get touched by it. But then they had to like, do this whole exorcist shit. This sounds crazy. Like some fucking three shit.
Dov Davidoff
Actually, let's go.
Israel Adesanya
But it happens. I've seen it. And again, boarding school, I've seen it as well. It's real. I don't wanna go too much into it. Cause then I just sound like a fucking crazy person. Yeah. I already do, but still dumb. We experienced what happened.
Dov Davidoff
Allegedly.
Israel Adesanya
Okay, okay. Boarding school, we're playing tag. And then this kid, whenever he got tagged, he just kind of switch and they catch someone and start trying to beat them. And what the fuck? Yo, relax, Chill. And later on, we couldn't find him for hours. And at one point. At one point, me and this kid who were looking for him, we see in the night, lightning strike, strikes again, and he's right there running us in slow motion. And I'll never forget this because there's more moments in your life, you just.
Akash Singh
Click, let's get out.
Israel Adesanya
And they just go, guy running, and get out. And then we ran. And then people were like, what the fuck? We're like, he's coming, he's coming, he's coming. But, yeah, so did.
Akash Singh
What? Did he come?
Israel Adesanya
Well, I don't know. Fuck. I didn't say to find out.
Akash Singh
So. You okay?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Get the fuck out of there. Yeah. And eventually they found him. They found him later on, eventually, and he was in the bushes somewhere. This is in Oakland State Bell's boarding school. They found him eventually in the bushes somewhere. And, yeah, I think after the next day, we never saw him at school for a while.
Dov Davidoff
Yo, Val's got a story. There were some knives that flew off the shelf in Pakistan.
Akash Singh
Remember that?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Wait, what?
Akash Singh
Wait, what do you mean? Yeah, so I was at my grandma's house, whose house was, like, super haunted. It was on a burial site. And it was me, my cousins, my aunt, who was deaf. And all of a sudden, these, like, not steak knives, like, just flew, like, across the room and stabbed my aunt's shirt through the couch.
Israel Adesanya
Damn.
Akash Singh
And we're all just like. It was my aunt and us, and we're just, like, screaming, like, screaming for help. And nobody was there. And so my aunt had to, like, take the knife out and just grab all the kids and run out of the house.
Israel Adesanya
Did it pierce skin or just the shirt?
Akash Singh
No, just the shirt.
Israel Adesanya
Damn. Lucky that was your uncle trying to get a deport. Just, what's more extra, going to a witch doctor. You've got problems. Your husband's cheating on you or something. It's like part of a way of life in some parts of Nigeria. You go, they'll do a little sacrifice. They'll kill a chicken. They'll give you something, they'll be like, go put it under you, under your doormat.
Akash Singh
And then your husband will just stop.
Israel Adesanya
Cheating when he steps on it.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Like, if there's one. Trust me, bro, they should take As a fact. This is it. Yeah, like, this is it.
Akash Singh
Have you ever used a witch doctor?
Israel Adesanya
No, we don't like, because we grew up in a Christian household, so we stayed away from that. But, you know, we call them babalawo. I think in South Africa they call them sangoma. So everyone or different tribes in Africa have different names for them. But before Christianity, before that, these guys were. And it's not because, you know, the Western world would say, this is bad, this is juju, this and that. But then it was African spirituality before, and Christianity or whatever came through. Even Islam.
Mark Gagnon
White people.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, yeah, white people. But still we. Yeah, people tap into it, but I just stay away from it. And I do it in my own way with certain things. Cuz look, when you. The spectrum of light's so different. Like when you. Even when I'm on shrooms, the way I feel, the way I see things, the way I perceive the world, I know there's more. There's way more. The way I've seen my cat. Rest in peace. Cinderu. I used to see her at night time. What is she chasing? I'm watching tv. I'll just see her like, da da da da da. And just. And I'm like, what is she actually chasing? Because they can see far more than us in the spectrum of light. So it'd be egotistical of us to think, like, we know as humans, we know what the fucking realm is like anyway. That's my TED Talk.
Dov Davidoff
You see those cats that go and sit on the hospital bed when someone's dying?
Israel Adesanya
There's me. Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
Like they can smell something. And there's like.
Akash Singh
Have you heard this?
Mark Gagnon
Mark always tries to make us like cats.
Akash Singh
It's just never gonna work.
Dov Davidoff
No, this is why you shouldn't like them, bro. They're going on the bed and they might be killing the people.
Israel Adesanya
There was one. I think it was in England at a. At a retirement home. Don't quote me on this. But then whenever the cat spends time with someone who never spends time with anyone, and then, oh, he about to die and it became a thing. And they put on the news and whatnot. It's on YouTube somewhere. Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
And it turns out all those people were allergic to cats.
Israel Adesanya
He's quick with it, bro. He's on.
Dov Davidoff
Which is crazy, right?
Israel Adesanya
Dad jokes now, man. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
Wait, V. Y'all buried.
Dov Davidoff
You're dead.
Mark Gagnon
You don't cremate.
Akash Singh
No.
Israel Adesanya
That's weird.
Mark Gagnon
Y'all wild white.
Israel Adesanya
But that.
Dov Davidoff
That's n. The Ganges is haunted, bro. The Ganges Is haunted as you got to be careful with that.
Israel Adesanya
Where are the Ganges?
Dov Davidoff
That's the river.
Mark Gagnon
And spread ashes on someone down.
Israel Adesanya
I see. I see. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah, they do pour it out for the day.
Akash Singh
Water. Wow.
Dov Davidoff
It's up with some.
Mark Gagnon
My grandmother's ashes in there. Can you imagine if I went to 911 and start on your ancestors?
Akash Singh
I'll allow. Good, bro.
Dov Davidoff
You ever heard of the Serpent and the Rainbow? The.
Akash Singh
This book.
Dov Davidoff
No, this is a book. This is great. By this guy, Wade Davis.
Israel Adesanya
All right. Serpent and the Rainbow.
Dov Davidoff
He went to. He went to Haiti, Iet. He's a Harvard psychologist.
Akash Singh
Okay.
Dov Davidoff
He hears a story about this guy. Let's go, Mark dude.
Israel Adesanya
Let's go.
Mark Gagnon
Professor Gagny.
Israel Adesanya
Someone give me a Zen.
Dov Davidoff
Mark Cook. I don't give something.
Israel Adesanya
I still. You know that one I took back? Allegedly. Still haven't tried it. I probably. It's probably expired now, but I saw Rogan even taking them. I've seen other people take them. And ever since you told me, if you want to feel nauseous and disoriented, take them.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
So I was like, I don't know about that, but I think maybe I'll try like a small one. I just want to feel it because I know tobacco is a nootropic, right?
Akash Singh
Yeah, yeah. Nicotine is a nicotine. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Okay, bet.
Dov Davidoff
And it's small dose. You do too much, then you're nervous.
Akash Singh
Okay, this guy. Tell us about your gay bar.
Dov Davidoff
No, no, it's not gay. It's not gay. The Serpent in the Rainbow. It sounds gay. I know.
Israel Adesanya
Best friend in the Rainbow.
Dov Davidoff
He's a Harvard psychologist.
Israel Adesanya
Right.
Dov Davidoff
He goes down to Haiti because he hears a story about this guy, I guess, Claire Clairvius Narci.
Akash Singh
All right.
Dov Davidoff
Haitian dude that was a zombie for 20 years.
Akash Singh
Well, yeah, of course, everybody knows about him.
Dov Davidoff
He basically, this guy claims that he was poisoned by a witch doctor by Bukaru in Haiti. Gets.
Akash Singh
I didn't even mean to do that. Cat.
Dov Davidoff
Like, watch out. He finds out that basically he gets poisoned by which doctor? He gets buried. The witch doctor exhumes his body, takes him to a different part of Haiti that makes him work as like a slave on detour, like different drugs for like 20 years. Eventually, he's able to escape after his witch doctor guy dies. And then he goes back to his family and he's like, yeah, this is what happened to me. I wasn't able to, like, escape. He, like, put a spell on me or some shit. And this psychologist went down there, like, documented it, and it was kind of like, yeah, it's possible that some of the drugs. He basically gave some validity to it, that it's possible that he was using puffer fish and this specific thing that would basically put someone into a coma for a short period of time. And so he's basically trying to find, like, scientific validity to this idea. There's this Haitian zombie, which is, like, crazy, but I don't know the book, I've never read it, but it seems like there's some. There's criticism both ways.
Akash Singh
Why do we want to believe all this shit? Because it's like conspiracies.
Israel Adesanya
It's like conspiracies.
Akash Singh
Exactly. Why would you see it?
Israel Adesanya
I've seen some. That's the thing. I've seen some shit.
Akash Singh
I'm not questioning if you've seen or not. I'm saying, why do I want to believe? Like, you start this story, I want it to be true.
Dov Davidoff
Same.
Israel Adesanya
There's more.
Akash Singh
Maybe that's it. Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
Maybe we want a hole in your heart.
Akash Singh
When you told me. I've accepted.
Israel Adesanya
Jesus.
Mark Gagnon
So, still feeling empty, huh?
Akash Singh
No. That's why you have so many dogs. No, there's a. But, like, I even see, like, my dog hanging around my child, right? And I'm like, well, they have a protective instinct and she just knows or whatever. Or maybe it's because the people that give her the food are around the child. You know what I mean? But, like, I want to believe this dog sees something pure in this kid.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
And then my baby tried to, like, take a toy my dog was playing with, and I just. My dog. Gone. At all.
Israel Adesanya
You reprimand them straight away? Yeah, yeah. You have to.
Akash Singh
Yeah, I just reprimanded. By throwing the thing continuously for it. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Don't award him.
Akash Singh
No, no, no, you're right. I have to make sure that that behavior is not tolerant.
Israel Adesanya
Letting other babies is above them.
Akash Singh
Yeah, that's a good point.
Israel Adesanya
That's how kids get.
Akash Singh
But why are we so compelled to want to believe? Believe in. Is it the supernatural?
Mark Gagnon
There's so much we don't know. Having some explanation for some supernatural phenomenon is like, okay, there are things that are beyond our comprehension that are happening out there.
Akash Singh
Oh, that's interesting. So it. It justifies all the things that we can't explain. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
So.
Akash Singh
So believing in these little things can justify the greater things that we don't understand. Okay.
Dov Davidoff
The inability to explain things is anxiety inducing.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
It's like, oh, I say something that can Jinx something. But if I knock on wood, I have some control over my, you know, my future destiny. Y like those types of, like, superstitions I love.
Israel Adesanya
And I'm surprised you actually have seen it and you haven't looked into it more. No, I don't want to. I've never fuck with a Ouija board, nothing like that. Because I just know as Nigerians, this is why on these movies always white kids. Because they're. Oh, yeah, let's go talk to the fucking thing. You know, you don't see no black kids fuck with that. Because I know it's. It's real. And then it can. It can enter you, you know, it can like, become a thing. So I'm just like, nah, I'm good. So. So. Yeah, well, you need to holler at some of the witch dogs for your opponents in the future.
Akash Singh
Throw some shit in the locker room.
Israel Adesanya
I'd rather do it myself. That's the thing. Skills, skills. Gotta get the idea, bro. Even in Nigeria, they do it with football. They put something at someone's goal post just to try and like.
Dov Davidoff
Do you remember this in the World Cup? Was it a thing? There was a whole thing in the World cup. This is like 2012. Like Nigeria was like winning games. They got like a call and there was like a crow that was on the goal post or some shit. Like, we got spun.
Israel Adesanya
There's always something and they will try. Yeah, but nothing's, bro.
Dov Davidoff
Nothing's free. Yeah, you can't ask for dark favors without taking on a debt.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, if they.
Dov Davidoff
Come on.
Akash Singh
You can't ask for dark favors without taping on a debt.
Israel Adesanya
Nothing's for free. I like that. What movie you got that from?
Dov Davidoff
No, everything needs a sacrifice. We have the one sacrifice.
Akash Singh
How convenient, huh? Yeah, how convenient.
Israel Adesanya
Cuz he died for the sin.
Akash Singh
Shout out Jesus, bro. I don't think Jesus gets enough credit. Don't you think he does it?
Israel Adesanya
Not at the moment. But again, I. Even me, I claim back the word God. You see me saying God? No, no, I keep saying it now because at first it felt so triggering. And I'd be like, the universe. But I'm like, nah, the God is the one. No matter what that force is. It's what we all tap into, call the universe.
Mark Gagnon
This is just a euphemism for God.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Like even my boy Sh. Ike, when we were in Abu Dhabi. Dhabi recently, you know, I went to the mosque with him. I put the whole thing on. And then I went to pray at the mosque with him. And he was really touched. He was like, man, none of my friends have ever come to the mosque to pray with me. But I was like, of course I'm going to tap in. It's a place. And I just went there, followed what he was doing. But I was just meditating. I didn't really know the Quran or speak the, you know, Arabic or whatever. But it's just my way of tapping in with cultures. No matter what, you still feel the same energy. We're all still trying to connect to the same oneness. If I ever go to a Hindi temple, I do the same thing.
Akash Singh
We did that. Remember? We hit. Hit the track.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Singapore. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Where?
Mark Gagnon
Singapore, the Hindu temple.
Akash Singh
It's a track. You just run circles around it.
Mark Gagnon
You walk mad laps.
Israel Adesanya
They just get you dizzy, really.
Akash Singh
And then you walk out like, oh, that was spiritual. I like the Indian 500. Gotta take two weeks off the pod every single week and have a baby that jokes galore. No, no, we went and we did it, and it was cool. They were moving. They were moving. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
I love the mustard, too.
Akash Singh
But do you always. Is that part of the culture, is that you go around every single time? Like when you would go to temple.
Mark Gagnon
As a kid, usually there's like, certain, like. Like a Ganesh statue, whatever. And you'll do the circle around the Ganesh, odd number of times. 1, 3, 5, 7, whatever.
Akash Singh
Now, even at your wedding, I know it was put the. The sick wedding, but there was also doing the circle.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, we did, I think five, seven.
Akash Singh
No, seven. Maybe we did five. You guys had to do two extras.
Mark Gagnon
Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay, fair enough. I don't even remember, to be honest with you. I know a Hindu ceremony. I know my.
Akash Singh
That's all you need to know. And then remember when y'all tried to feed us mud? Oh, yeah, the best. They tried to feed us mud and they thought that we wouldn't know it was mud, but we ate it. We did eat it.
Mark Gagnon
It tastes good.
Akash Singh
It was delicious.
Dov Davidoff
I think by that dude's toenail to this day. Specifically his toenail. The guy that was toenail.
Akash Singh
Yeah. I don't know how they use.
Dov Davidoff
The dude that was scooping, he had a toenail, and it's nothing against him. We all. Some dove is a toner. But he had a toenail. Specifically it. Shoes off. And then also scooping. And I've just never forgotten the toenail.
Israel Adesanya
The foot or.
Dov Davidoff
No, he wasn't scooping his foot.
Akash Singh
It's just.
Dov Davidoff
You saw it and like.
Akash Singh
Oh, I see.
Israel Adesanya
So he gross you out.
Dov Davidoff
He Was feeding you, but he also had a barnacle.
Israel Adesanya
And you're like, yeah.
Akash Singh
I went back for seconds. By the way. What is that? I had multiple. Shout out to that. What would you call temple? Gurdwara. Gurdwara. Shout out to that Gurdwara. They had the best. What do you call it?
Mark Gagnon
Prashad.
Akash Singh
What is it?
Mark Gagnon
Prashad.
Akash Singh
They got the best prashad in Jersey.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
So if y'all want a fire Prashad, you gotta pull up to that Gurdwara. That was. You remember that?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
That hit the hand, and I was like, boom. I ate it. And then after eating, I didn't even know if we were supposed to. Yeah, like, because I was so hungry. We. I was starving, dude. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
And I ate that, and I was like, oh, on to this mud. We got to look at mud different. Didn't feel that way. That was delicious. And I said, yo, run that back to you. You did a lot. I said, toenails. Run that back.
Dov Davidoff
You weren't supposed to eat it, I don't think.
Akash Singh
I don't. What?
Dov Davidoff
No, you turned into a sculpture. You're supposed to paint, make something. But, you know, Gandhi used to read the New Testament. I read that today. Apparently, he read the New Testament.
Akash Singh
Of course he did. All the boys do.
Dov Davidoff
Probably everybody does. Someone said, why wouldn't you become a Christ? And he said, if I ever met a true one, then I would. Which I was like, yo, this guy. I love your Christ. It's your Christians I have a problem with.
Akash Singh
I was like, how anybody be saying that? Gandhi. Same. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
No, but that's you who they talking about?
Akash Singh
Me?
Mark Gagnon
Yeah. Who they talking about?
Akash Singh
I'm modern Orthodox.
Mark Gagnon
What Gandhi made you need go.
Akash Singh
I made a new one. No, no, no, you're right. But listen, we have to aspire to be. The only perfect one is Jesus. Go meet him then.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
Pull up.
Akash Singh
He probably did already.
Israel Adesanya
What'd you grow up, Andrew, as Christian?
Akash Singh
Nah, we weren't religious. My parents weren't religious.
Mark Gagnon
He's still. Not, to be honest.
Akash Singh
Yo, I. So what? So it's so funny, like, everybody. Like, now that everybody hates Jews on the Internet, they hate me for being Jewish before that.
Israel Adesanya
Well, you're not Jewish.
Akash Singh
I know, but they think I am.
Israel Adesanya
Ah, the name.
Akash Singh
But like. Like.
Mark Gagnon
Which is really a sign of success, if you think about it.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Well, that is also. Yeah, I was gonna say, like, people just hate you and then attach. Whatever. This is what. It's like. This is a quick. The best example I can have for is, like, whoever cuts you over cuts you over cuts you off in like a car.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
It's just the first thing that you think you know about them.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
You attach to your anger and they're like, oh, if it's a woman, you can't drive. Whatever. And so they just think that I'm Jewish.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
And I just be letting them care to check.
Israel Adesanya
They just like, yeah, most be. And just on you. Yeah. Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
But you're not throwing him off the trail, though.
Akash Singh
You're right, dude.
Israel Adesanya
I got to let them think, bro.
Akash Singh
And then when they see me in heaven, they're like, what are you doing? Someone's got some forgiving. Someone's got some forgiving.
Dov Davidoff
Why'd your mom name you Israel? Was that a no?
Israel Adesanya
So actually I was going to mention this while you were talking about naming your baby. So in Nigerian or Y culture, when you have a baby, you meet the baby for about a week first. So you're in the house with the baby for about a week, get to know the baby a bit. And then Indians do that. Then you have the naming ceremony, right? Yeah. Naming ceremony. Oh, no way. You went to one. Yeah. So we don't do baby showers. That's a new thing now in Nigeria. But we used to have. We still have naming ceremonies. And then, like, say people from my mom's side and my dad's side, important people. Like my mom and dad's parents gave me a different name. My dad's parents gave me a different name. My mom's big sister or favorite, you know, sister or something. So Israel was the name from the pastor, from God that was ordained by means. And then Mobolaji was the second name that my parents, they gave me that name.
Akash Singh
Mobolaji.
Israel Adesanya
Mobolaji.
Akash Singh
That's fire.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. So it means born with wealth, born with riches. So each of my names have meanings. Do you still have.
Mark Gagnon
That's what Israel means, actually.
Israel Adesanya
The people of God. Israel, Mobolaji, Adesonya. So that's all my names. But then again, as the pastor's doing, all the religious leaders doing it.
Akash Singh
What poor girl got it when you say my name.
Israel Adesanya
As a religious leader is doing it. And then they have like sugar, salt water, honey, and then would dip the finger in the water, say, this is the essence of life, and have a proverb about it. And then Na segunya. I don't know, like some type of. Like that. But then, yeah, I think it's beautiful. I think it's. It's a cool thing to do. They have like the throwing of money too. That's normal. We do that. Bro, we went to church. I just came back from Nigeria, man.
Akash Singh
That's why I love people making it rain his underwear.
Israel Adesanya
Nah, man. We're back in Nigeria at church. And then the offerings. We do the tithing and whatnot. But then we went back from my dad being ordained as a minister in this church. And then. Yeah, so celebrate. We just. And that's more money for Jesus, you know, so. And it just looks cool because, you know, naira and dollars don't compare. So when you take a, you know, 500 over there, it's like. And it's cool, man. Even in the clubs. We're at the club there, and the vibe was so cool, man. Saxophone is playing as they're playing real, like, you know, hip hop, R B music in the club. And the drummers. And then you're just there like this, this, this, this. And then, man, I just. I like that about our culture. We're not scared to flex like Nigerians in Africa. We're the biggest flexers.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
We taught all Africans or everyone else how to flex. You know, washing your hands with champagne. That. We started that. Yeah, I didn't even heard that.
Dov Davidoff
I didn't even say washing your hands.
Akash Singh
That one with the African dudes flexing the water. Seen that? Oh, yeah.
Dov Davidoff
Where we like.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, what's up?
Akash Singh
No, but the name Israel means, like.
Israel Adesanya
It was given Jacob.
Akash Singh
Shut up. Tell me what his name means. I'm joking. Was named Israel. It's one who struggles with God. So it's like that entangled with an angel or something godly.
Dov Davidoff
Jacob wrestled. God wrestled.
Akash Singh
God came out strong. And that was the name given to.
Dov Davidoff
Him, which is crazy.
Akash Singh
It's like there's a connection between the divine and the human. And then he came out strong with God.
Israel Adesanya
I forgot about that Bible story when you said it.
Akash Singh
Now Christians wrestle with God every single wrestling.
Dov Davidoff
The funniest Jew story that y'all got.
Akash Singh
In the Torah, pointed him. That was fire, dude. Let know.
Israel Adesanya
Let him know.
Akash Singh
I don't know who the boys are.
Dov Davidoff
Give me garlic. Come on. No, the funniest Jew story is when Abraham and God's about to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah. And then he tells Abraham, yo, I'm going to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah.
Akash Singh
And then they tried to make a deal. Exactly, bro.
Dov Davidoff
Abraham's nephew was living in Sodom. And they were like, let me buy up that land.
Akash Singh
What if I gave you all the girls in town? No, no, better. What if I give you my daughters?
Dov Davidoff
God goes, if there's 50 righteous people, I won't destroy it. And Abraham's like, all right, bet. And he's like, oh, fuck, there's not 50. Soon he goes, what about like, 45? You won't destroy it. And he's like, all right, I won't. And he gets him down to 10.
Akash Singh
Yeah, they are good.
Mark Gagnon
That's the wrestling. That's how wrestling.
Akash Singh
It's called negotiating.
Israel Adesanya
New merch.
Dov Davidoff
Yeah, the spar mitzvah.
Akash Singh
Okay, so the felt of fist, I was thinking. I was thinking.
Israel Adesanya
I don't know what that is. It's like some fish that they eat. Oh, real fish.
Akash Singh
But gefilte fist is what you said, right? Yeah. Yeah. That's what it smells like afterwards.
Dov Davidoff
Are there any Jewish UFC fighters? There's a couple, right?
Israel Adesanya
It must be. I can't think of any right now, but back in the day, a lot of boxes were Jewish back in the day, years ago. I'm trying to think UFC fighters, fighters.
Akash Singh
They do well in the Olympics. Because I have a question. Yes, Izzy, I know you're a big fan of anime and the video games and all of that is when you were a kid, I don't know if you had the same thing. When I was a kid, I watched a lot of Dragon Ball Z, and I would just imagine I'm whoever it was at the time.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
You sort of got to grow up and be them. You got to be Goku or Gohan or Trunks or whoever your guy was, if who was your guy when you were a kid. And also, if you were in that world now, if you were in their universe, who would you want to fight the most?
Israel Adesanya
That's a good one. Okay, so.
Akash Singh
Good question. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
I didn't know where you're going.
Akash Singh
I was ready.
Mark Gagnon
You were dry. It took a long time to get.
Akash Singh
There, but that was good. Miles.
Israel Adesanya
So for me, whenever I do fights now, like, example, the answer to a fight, I had Rock Lee in my mind. So when I was getting introduced, I took the weights off. Bam. Rock Whitaker, Death Note, Depends. I always have a character I like to embody or a moment. Even when I fought Pereira the second time, I was Jet Li in Unleashed. Like, it doesn't have to be anime, but the character I relate to as a kid, Power Rangers, Ninja Turtles, Action man, was a lot like, we used to just pretend to fight in the fields as a kid. If I would go back now, Power Rangers was, like, one of the top at the time.
Akash Singh
Which one?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, which Ranger? Come on. Black Ranger. Either him or the Red Ranger. But the Black Ranger because it was relatable. But the Red Ranger, he was cool too. But if I was going to let me see. Damn.
Akash Singh
If the good guy kill somebody with a sword.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, for real.
Akash Singh
The green or the yellow? Was the yellow Asian?
Israel Adesanya
The yellow was Asian.
Mark Gagnon
Black was black, yellow was Asian.
Akash Singh
The white was my elementary school.
Israel Adesanya
He's an MMA fighter now. I think the White Ranger, he was that Tommy. He wasn't and then was the same guy. He died.
Akash Singh
But there was the Green Ranger, I think killed someone with a sword.
Israel Adesanya
Damn. That's on bar. That's like what you're supposed to do.
Akash Singh
Method.
Israel Adesanya
Method. That too, man. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
Power Rangers star admits to killing roommate with a sword.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, admits to it. Oh, wow.
Mark Gagnon
Crazy.
Israel Adesanya
He or she?
Mark Gagnon
He had a roommate.
Akash Singh
That's sad.
Mark Gagnon
The saddest part of the whole thing. Bro, you want to hear Power Ranger had a roommate.
Akash Singh
Dude, you want to hear crazy?
Mark Gagnon
He was in a flex three bedroom.
Akash Singh
Crazy Power Ranger stories.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
The first cast of Power Rangers were really popular and they were like, yo, we want more money. And it was a non union set. They just fired all of them and brought new kids in and nobody gave a fuck. Yeah, thing keeps moving. They thought they were bigger than the brand, man. All right, guys, we gotta take a break for a second because we need to talk about your pants game. Some of your pants games are crazy out there. I mean, like, I don't have no clue who decided that the stiff, uncomfortable fabric squeezing your family jewels was the key to looking sharp. I think we can all agree it's not. I think comfort is key. Okay. Honestly, there's some of the denim out there that's absolutely destroying your gift basket, if you know what I mean. So here's a holiday. Here's a holiday gift from Santa Schultz to you. Those days are finally over. Public Rex Daymaker pants are here to make sure you stay comfy and classy this season. They feel like your favorite sweats, but look like tailored pants. They are super stretchy with an elastic waistband so you can rock them anywhere, anytime. Whether you're watching a holiday movie with wifey, going through leftover Thanksgiving food, or watching bowl games with the boys, these pants got you covered. They also got your pops covered. Matter of fact, they also got your bro covered. It's a fantastic gift. It's a fantastic gift. Give the gift of comfort to yourself or your family this holiday season with public recs day maker pants. And for a limited time, you get 20% off your entire order with the code flagrant@publicwreck.com that is 20% off when you use the promo code flagrant@publicwreck.Com now let's get back to the show. All right, guys, let's take a break for a second. You like gift baskets? Of course you do. Who wouldn't like a gift basket? There's no person on this planet doesn't like a gift basket. You know what else is awesome? Buy Optimizer's Black Friday deal starts now. Guys. And they're giving away a free gift. What do you think it is? What do you think it is? You think it's a gift box?
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Israel Adesanya
Oh, yeah.
Akash Singh
Thank you for doing it, buddy. Of course. I appreciate it. It was very fun. And it's this spot that is on. Was it St. Mark's between second and first?
Israel Adesanya
Yep.
Akash Singh
And how often are you guys going to do it?
Dov Davidoff
Right now? Once a month.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
And then hopefully more.
Akash Singh
And it happens.
Dov Davidoff
Fuel coming.
Akash Singh
I think it's a great. It's a great. It remind me a little bit. There's this spot. Cabin. Do you remind me? Cabin? Yeah, like this. The place is much cooler than cabin, but the vibe of cabin was there was like a bar area where people could hang out and chill, and then there was like a room for the show. And so I think that it could build into something like that. So if you're in the city, man, go check out the show.
Dov Davidoff
I thank you for saying that.
Akash Singh
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was fun.
Israel Adesanya
Sets tonight.
Akash Singh
I don't know if I. I was gonna, but then I'm on, baby.
Israel Adesanya
Last night was fun.
Akash Singh
You guys had fun?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, it was good. Just the host was funny, some of the guys that came up and girls. Yeah, it was a good show. I like the vibe. Yeah. Yeah.
Akash Singh
I feel like you thought the show was all right last night. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
I mean, come on, it could have been. I know, I know, I know, I know. I understand that.
Akash Singh
Baby's up at six every morning no matter what. I don't care about my show. But, yeah, I wanted you to. I wanted you to come out. How was Austin, bro? I saw you living it up in Austin. Did you do Kill Tony?
Israel Adesanya
Nah, I thought you were gonna do it because they film on Mondays, but I just wanted to be at the comedy mothership and just see, because again, and I said this for me as a fan of these guys and even us, like, we're friends now, but meeting these guys for the first time, like Hans Kim.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Ari and them.
Akash Singh
You've probably watched them so much online.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, I'm just like.
Akash Singh
It's a cool moment to see them.
Israel Adesanya
This is cool. And again, I know for them, they feel the same way, but. But I'm a fan. Trust me, I'm always a fan.
Akash Singh
They're way more excited.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, yeah, I'm excited.
Akash Singh
More excited.
Israel Adesanya
I kept on telling Tony how I was like, I'm so proud of you. Cena's apartment. I was like, man, this was fucking cool. I told him probably like seven times. Yeah, and he. I like the way he just takes pride in himself. Just walking around and showing it us. Like, yeah, I did this shit because he's such a. He's so little, but he's such a boss. He's just like, I mean, I did this shit.
Akash Singh
It's amazing what they've built that show to be like, kill Tony.
Mark Gagnon
It's so good.
Akash Singh
And they built it, man.
Mark Gagnon
And he's thoughtful about every aspect.
Akash Singh
They got it out the mud cuz.
Israel Adesanya
It was the one at msg. I told him though, at the end. I didn't like the fact that they rushed the second show. At the end I was like, what the. That was my complaint.
Akash Singh
Yo, D can speak on this, D.
Israel Adesanya
But he said, he said it was cuz Madison Square Garden had a fine for 100k. If they went overtime, it might even be more true.
Akash Singh
Like you. You got to get out that venue, bro. You got to get out that venue.
Israel Adesanya
Cuz they were just like the next people that even have the bucket, they were just like, cool. Boom. This guy comes up like all the. The comedians, they hadn't said. They're like 30 second sets. Quiet. Cool. Thank you. We got to keep moving. Yeah. And I was just like, no, it's. But that's just me as a Karen.
Akash Singh
Because now. You know what it probably is. There was probably an event the next day and they started loading in that night.
Dov Davidoff
Because to you, you're selling an msg. But to the venue, they're like, that's Tuesday.
Akash Singh
Yeah, we got other.
Israel Adesanya
Do you guys have like a production trailer? Whenever you go around the world, do you have like a. What do you call it? Like a set or something that you have to say lighting? All that. Was that supplied by some crazy. Tell me.
Akash Singh
We were on this tour for months.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
And I never really like inquired on how like we got all the lights. And I'm like, I have to say, you're a men. Every time I would show up, the lights would be there and I'd be like, hey, that's fire.
Mark Gagnon
Like, this is astounding how much Dove does. And you have no clue.
Akash Singh
He was sitting. No, no, he was sitting. I showed up to the venue once. I forget where we were. And there was like two 18 trucks.
Israel Adesanya
That's what I'm saying.
Akash Singh
So you guys have that good friends msg. I showed up. It wasn't msg. It was somewhere else. It was showed up and I walked out and I was like, damn, who's here tomorrow? Cuz I thought it was like Guns and Roses or Something I is performing. And then I remember Dub and Cheryl were like, this is our stuff. And I go, we got two trucks.
Israel Adesanya
On a big show.
Dov Davidoff
Yeah, we have.
Akash Singh
We have four. But it was crazy. We were. See how much money they're wasting.
Israel Adesanya
He's definitely on it. He's definitely.
Akash Singh
No, but he didn't even know until for MSG as an example, like Drake or Travis Scott. For an msg show, that's 25, 35 trucks that are out there. Oh, and we're talking about the 18 wheel, huh?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, I know.
Akash Singh
And he's talking at MSG, everything needs to be unloaded by forklifts. So you've got dozens. They're just all lined up. It's pretty awesome when you see everybody put it together, but also when they take it apart.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, like. And they are on the ufc.
Akash Singh
But he didn't know. He didn't know a few days ago from, from Jelly Roll telling you how many trucks he had. And I'm like sitting there saying, what time was your load in to get this all up? And he's like, walk and chalk it. 3:00 in the morning. And Andrew's like, yeah, what's. What time you doing? That was like yours was at 6am He. I didn't see that. I was like, we saw it. You walk into an empty shell and there's sports outside and it's in and there's a whistle that blows. And then now the rigging crew comes in and now this and then you.
Israel Adesanya
So even if you have to go say Abu Dhabi when you do that, do you have to transfer all your stuff over there?
Akash Singh
You'll get local vendors.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, you get. Okay, I see, I see.
Akash Singh
Okay, but like, but like I would say our show is. Probably has a lot more elements than the average standup show. But like, I would say Kill Tony is a production too, so they'll have multiple trucks. But I think average stand up show doesn't do it like that. I think a lot of guys just show up and like whatever's here, they do it. And we did that for years, but y'all have flames. We just. Yeah, we wanted to see what we could do. And also, like, there's a part of you that is. There's part of you that selfishly you want to put on the best show. There's also a part of you that like, at least my relationship with the people come out to the shows is like, they've built this with me. Like, I have like this insane gratitude. I feel so guilty. Like, if they'll come to me and they'll ask me, like, oh, this thing is to put a screen. Screen. It's another 10 grand. And it's like, but what if the people can't see? Like, those people probably came to five shows, like, and now they're going to be at msg, and that's. Yeah, we have to spend.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, they gotta.
Akash Singh
So you feel. You do feel this, like, immense gratitude. I don't know if I'd have to ask a comic that. Like, they were in movies first and then they. They did comedy. I wonder if they feel that same responsibility. Like, I don't know if they do, and they might, but I feel like it is. It has to be the best show they've ever seen.
Mark Gagnon
Here's a question for you guys, both of you. I remember when I filmed my special, I put this. All this money into it, and I'm like, I don't know what the I'm spending all this money on. Then you walk in and you see, I don't know, 50 people, 100 people.
Akash Singh
Working on this thing.
Mark Gagnon
And then you. I remember thinking to myself, and y'all are doing a much larger scale. I remember thinking, oh, all of this is for me. And you feel I had to block it out pretty quickly because it's, like, a lot. But you're like. When you walk into MSG, you walk in MSG, you see all these people working 6am how much pressure do you feel where it's like, oh, all of this is for me. I gotta deliver. Like, not just the fans that are coming, these people whose jobs are building this stage for me, putting this screen up for me, building this ring for me. Do you feel that? Because I felt that for a second. And I was like, that will swallow me, like, exane.
Israel Adesanya
It's not my money, it's Dana's money. So, you know, that's cool. But again, I've heard from behind the scenes, there's only been ever two fights that do, like, a ring walk beforehand, like, go to the venue the night before. That's me and Jon Jones, the only two that go there, prep, and just kind of have a little look, see. So when I did the one in Melbourne, while I danced, I told everyone on the mic, please, I know if you're in the working, just don't film nothing. Like that rad radar. Then I did it, but then I felt like, I'm gonna fucking kill this shit. I just felt like. I just knew I didn't really feel pressure. Cause I went to bed that night watching the rehearsal, and just. That's how I fell asleep with my phone in my hand. Just like, again, this is gonna fucking. This is gonna fucking blow. So it took my mind off the fight, and I was able to just be like, fuck. And then. Yeah. So it wasn't pressure. It was just like. I was just like, I'm gonna fucking kill this shit.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
That's how I felt. Yeah.
Akash Singh
I don't feel the pressure of that, but I do feel the gratitude of it at the end.
Israel Adesanya
Like.
Akash Singh
Well, a lot of times go back to the venue and, like, maybe we'll be. We'll go to a seat where people are watching and. Because it's. It' weird. Being a human is weird. You get used to unbelievable. Like, I'm sure that's what happens with you. You get used to going in there, like, fighting a guy who's trying to kill you. People get used to war. Like, there's just part of being a human being. We can get used to these, like, wild circumstances. So you can get used to performing an arena, but you, since you don't do that often. I've been back at MSG since I performed there, and I. And I'm like, we performed here.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Twice. Like, your brain explodes when you're looking at another place. And that's where the gratitude sets in. When you see all the working to, like, remove the floor, you start going, whoa. How lucky am I? But it does. It's not daunting beforehand. Like, there's, like, one objective.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah. The first time I ever felt it, I remember when I was in Wilding out, and I wasn't even big. When we go to the premiere party, my. I bring my friend who's not in the business, and he's like, dog, so many people's livelihoods depends on you doing well on this show, and not me specifically, but in general. And that was the first time it ever occurred to me. And now, again, if I think about it too much, I get overwhelmed, but I'm like, fuck. That's always.
Israel Adesanya
You can't think about it too much. You just have to just accept it for it as I peek it or understand, okay, this is what it is.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And then what you talked about was after I fought first time in MSG with Brunson, the next night, I went to watch the Knicks play, and that's when I was kind of like, what, though?
Mark Gagnon
I remember you going, yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And I was like, oh, this is like, this was. I fought there last night. And now it's a. The basketball is a plane There's a logo there.
Akash Singh
Derek always says this to us whenever we're doing an arena. Derek opens the show.
Israel Adesanya
Derek post him in Austin.
Akash Singh
Yeah. And he always says this. He's like. Like, if we're doing. Doing an arena or something, he goes, you know, it takes two basketball teams to sell this out.
Israel Adesanya
That's a bar.
Akash Singh
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mark Gagnon
That's fire.
Israel Adesanya
Facts.
Akash Singh
Like, if the Knicks just show up.
Israel Adesanya
No one's going to sell us out. I heard. I mean, I love the Knicks and I don't really follow basketball, but we.
Akash Singh
Win it all this year.
Dov Davidoff
Yeah, I've heard that.
Akash Singh
Shout out, welcome to the city.
Israel Adesanya
Big per.
Dov Davidoff
Can we go through a couple fight videos?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Dov Davidoff
And then you just break down kind of what we got going on.
Akash Singh
Okay. That's a great street fight.
Mark Gagnon
That's a great idea.
Akash Singh
I mean, you have some hits. Do you have some hits?
Israel Adesanya
Trying to think what's a good one. That's fire. Street fight.
Akash Singh
Okay, what we got?
Israel Adesanya
Okay. Oh, got popped. Nice recovery. The hair helped him. I called him a too. Nice. Let's go. Okay, now square up. He's got to put his hair away because his hair is going to be a hindrance maybe, but he's gonna hide on him. Other guys go back by the wall, squared up.
Dov Davidoff
He's got.
Israel Adesanya
He's got Asian guy calling the white guy a. That's. Oh, no, see, I don't support that. No, that's bad.
Akash Singh
They not taking off his belt. I know they're not doing that. Damn. Why they took off his.
Israel Adesanya
That wasn't even a fight. That was just a guy getting cheap shotted.
Akash Singh
Why they take his belt off? That is craz. Yo, they cut the video right after they took the belt off.
Israel Adesanya
Not find a fair one.
Akash Singh
It's not even a nice belt.
Israel Adesanya
Like street fight video. See, that was.
Akash Singh
What is going on.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Who knows what happened after. I'm glad it cut off, Mark.
Akash Singh
That made me feel uncomfortable that you brought that.
Dov Davidoff
I didn't know what it was, bro.
Israel Adesanya
That's the next one. That's a better one. Oh, nice. I like this one. Leg kick. Oh, I've seen this one. Yeah, Cool. Establish range, not swinging. Oh, took the shoes off.
Dov Davidoff
Oh, shoes are on.
Israel Adesanya
Now we own. Oh, there we go. Shoes back on. Asian guy's on, son.
Akash Singh
Asian guy got a nice.
Israel Adesanya
Nice. Oh, the other guy shouldn't have just kept on walking in. He did the same thing. Oh, that's nice of him, though. Put him down and then try and help him back up. Nah, that's disrespectful. Yeah, don't knock me out. And then get try and help him, white guy. His problem was he was just rushing back in after getting clipped and like, cool, let's do it again. That's ego. You have to just pull back and reassess and do something different.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, spit at him.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, spit in his eyes. And then you do something.
Akash Singh
What was that guy who would prank the dudes? He talk shit, then get naked.
Israel Adesanya
But again, that's the way to do it though.
Akash Singh
You want to.
Israel Adesanya
Really?
Akash Singh
Have you seen that Keen Peel sketch, man, where it's Mike Tyson and he's. Jordan Peele is Mike Tyson and he's going up against another boxer. I think he's. But. And he starts saying what he's gonna do. This boxer like, I'm gonna beat on.
Mark Gagnon
The fight promo thing.
Akash Singh
The fight promo. And then Mike goes, I'm gonna you in the ass. And then he saw it go, kept.
Mark Gagnon
Saying, that was Drake and Kendrick. And Drake was the guy that was like kind of being playful with it. And Kendrick is a guy that was like, I'm gonna take his soul from his body.
Akash Singh
Yeah, yeah. I'm gonna you ass and I'm gonna kiss you and then we're gonna date and I'm gonna tell you certain things about you that I felt uncomfortable sharing, but I'm gonna share anyway. Bro, that was diabolical.
Israel Adesanya
This is gonna be. But. Oh, yo.
Akash Singh
So this video.
Dov Davidoff
This video has everything.
Akash Singh
I think first of all.
Mark Gagnon
Okay, I see.
Israel Adesanya
Got a Brazilian in there. See Dove looking. I like it. I see you.
Dov Davidoff
All right, you ready?
Akash Singh
Let's go.
Mark Gagnon
Oh, is this Austin? It's got to be Austin.
Akash Singh
This is Austin, Texas Street, 6th Street.
Dov Davidoff
5V1. 5V1.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, no way. Oh, for real? 5V1. Nah, that's dumb. I don't like street fights. Eh. Yeah, it gives me anxiety.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
I just think it's not worth it. And my ego is in check. See all this? Cuz you can get cheap shot from the back. Like this guy about to get cheap shot at the guy in the black. Oh, he just didn't. Again, lost focus, took his eyes off the target. 5v1. Boom. Everyone slanging. Oh, he a little bit run.
Akash Singh
Oh, Jesus.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, Austin would be wild.
Akash Singh
Oh.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, he's just swinging.
Akash Singh
He got. He dropped two so far.
Israel Adesanya
He dropped to keep moving. I like what he's doing. Keep moving and keep hitting. Never stay in one place. He's moving and hitting. That's what's up.
Akash Singh
Cops pull up, cuz he won.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, that's it.
Akash Singh
Mark Found find the video of the skater fighting. Like.
Mark Gagnon
This video ended rollerblading.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
This video ended rollerblading.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Classic fights.
Mark Gagnon
17, five guys, skateboarder fights, four skaters, I think.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Now, that was a good one. Again, good strategy right there.
Akash Singh
This is like an iconic classic.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, it's original. Takes a shirt off.
Akash Singh
This guy's a legend.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Mike Valley. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
I think I've seen him talk about it as well. They called him a skater.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Again, I like that market.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah. Thank you.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, yeah, true. No, it was written right there. I'm just quoting. Oh, that's it.
Akash Singh
Boom.
Israel Adesanya
Again. Strike hard, strike first.
Akash Singh
First.
Israel Adesanya
In a situation like this, you can't wait for them to. I'm gonna be the righteous one. Let them hit me first.
Mark Gagnon
Ain't that Karate Kid? Strike hard, strike.
Akash Singh
They was right. Oh, take down and you going down.
Israel Adesanya
Turn around straight away. I like it.
Akash Singh
Oh, he's been in some tough. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Mike Valley is like, street kid.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
What's his name?
Akash Singh
Mike Vallee.
Israel Adesanya
I like that market.
Akash Singh
We always look at that out. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
I appreciate it.
Akash Singh
Wow.
Dov Davidoff
I mean, this. There's a whole YouTube page with a. With millions of views.
Israel Adesanya
I like that. With street fight companions.
Dov Davidoff
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
Okay.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. But David Street Fight, he's the. He's the producer of Street Freestyle Business, so he kind of lets us know if it's kosher, if you will. On brand Street Fight Companion, would you.
Akash Singh
Do any, like, commentating?
Israel Adesanya
Not now. But even the breakdowns that I do, I give really basic insights into things. I don't try and give the sauce.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
I don't want people to know how. I think I did a little bit for. During COVID when I did the breakdowns early on of my old fights.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And then usually was kind of like stuff.
Akash Singh
You're giving away the juice. But, like, let's say one day in the future, 20 years from now, something like that. Would that be something?
Israel Adesanya
That'd be fun. That'd be fun.
Mark Gagnon
You and Valk dude together. Just commentating after you both retire would be so good.
Israel Adesanya
I mean, I'd do something for the UFC for fun, for the ls, but.
Mark Gagnon
So you know how the NFL. I don't know if you watch NFL football, but they do a Manning cast on Monday nights. We're both Manning brothers. They have the regular commentary. You can also go to ESPN2 or whatever. Quarterbacks just talking during a game.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
You and Vul doing that.
Israel Adesanya
You.
Mark Gagnon
You, Vul and Hooker doing that could be just so good.
Israel Adesanya
Just viewing and just kind of like what we're going to do tonight, Watch party type.
Akash Singh
It's also fun because. And like, that's why I think having a guy like DC in there is so valuable. It's like a guy who.
Israel Adesanya
Michael Bisping.
Akash Singh
Bisping.
Israel Adesanya
Former champions.
Akash Singh
Like, having people who have been in there and they may or may not know. Well, sometimes.
Israel Adesanya
Sometimes they. They be saying some shit and I'm.
Akash Singh
Like, no, they get it wrong.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, no, no, not even that. It's like their emotions get the best of them. Yeah. And like, I'm like, be neutral. You can see it.
Akash Singh
Oh, really?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, you can see it. But again, that's why you have professionals like John Anik and Rogan as well, who can just try and be. Even if Rogan is a friend with someone or John Anik, they can kind of like separate themselves. But fighters, we are emotional beings. So we sometimes, like Michael Bishop, shout out to him. Because one time in Vegas, my second or first year in the ufc. No, first thing in the ufc, after I fought Brad Tavares.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
He comes, I'm at a pool party, I'm shirtless, and he comes up, sees me, gets on the bar, this the guy, takes his shirt off and all this. But then we have a real dnm. And he tells me like, you know, I probably, probably said a lot of things about you out of jealousy.
Akash Singh
Oh, that was cool.
Israel Adesanya
I appreciated that. And then he gave me some game. And then at end of the night, he goes, check this. I'm drunk. He's drunk. And I'm like, what the. He's like, hold it. And he's telling me like, yo, this, this is the sacrifice you have to make sometime. You have to be careful who you fight. This and that. Make sure you get in here, do your thing, get your money and get out. Cuz this and this and that. And I'm like, cool. He's like, yeah, careful, careful, cool. Give it back to him. And they. And then that was it. So again, that's one of those moments that's crazy. I don't know if we took that. I took a photo with Jorge that night, but I don't think I took a photo with Bisping. But that was a moment for about 40 minutes. We hung out, drank, and then we had that moment where we just talked for about 20 minutes after and just like, oh, he put his eye in my hand to let me know there's some real shit. This is what could happen to you if you don't, you know, play the game right. So, yeah, I appreciate those moments. Even with gsp he always pops in. Into my life. Kind of like Avatar Roku in a way.
Akash Singh
Okay.
Israel Adesanya
He'll just pop into my life like an Austin. He was. He just showed up and again, dropping wisdom. Boom, boom. And I'm like, yes, I need this. Thank you, master.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And then it's a mist.
Akash Singh
Like, having those people who've had that experience, like, going from nowhere to the top, and you're now one of these people. It's interesting because, like, the behavior of most. I'm not saying this is you, but the behavior of most when, like, they're at the bottom and. And nobody notices them, there's like a freedom to that. Because you say wild shit about the people at the top because they're these mythical figures. They're not real. You've never met them. So they don't have families, they don't have emotions or whatever. And, like, I've even noticed that, like, in our business is, like, you start to get a little bit higher and then you start meeting these people. And then you realize everything you say on a podcast, everybody hears about it.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Like, Kamala watched us do the. The rants 100%. Or at least someone on her team. Like, you know, and you start going, oh, wow. Like, these people are. These people are human beings. And then you start going, like, you gotta really believe what you say or really believe in the jokes of it. We're at a point now where, like, everybody hears and it's something you think about, like, when you start meeting them and you meet a lot of people that you think might suck that end up not sucking, and they end up being kind of like good people who are a little bit misunderstood or they really want to be famous. So maybe they do something that once you meet them, you're like, oh, you don't even really believe that, but you wanted to have success for whatever reason, you sort of have, like, a lot more empathy for them.
Israel Adesanya
You humanize them.
Akash Singh
Yeah. 100%. And yeah, that's just like. Yeah, it's just a wild experience.
Dov Davidoff
Speaking of which, you trained with Zuck, right?
Israel Adesanya
Zuck. Yeah, that was fun.
Akash Singh
Like, Zuck to me, is not like a human being. So I can say whatever I want about. And then you meet him. He's a.
Israel Adesanya
He is a human being. Yeah, he's a. He's got a wife and some kids, bro. I. I love his setup again. I love who he is as a person. And when I went to spot him, I let him know. I was like, okay. Cuz he invited. Invited us to his house.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And what a privilege. The house with the bunker.
Akash Singh
No, not the Hawaii one.
Israel Adesanya
We're at Tahoe. And again, he's got a great setup. I love his setup. It's similar to what I have in mind for myself, but. Yeah. And then when we went to the gym to train and it was time to spar, I was like, right, Too close. Pop. Cool. Okay, you're too close. Pop. And then he was. He was learning. He was learning on the fly. And then he throw a leg kick. And again, hard leg kick, but I can take it. And then we were just going at it, but I didn't try to hurt him. I was just letting them know, like, if you really want to be about this, you have to be about this. And I respect the guy. He's game, bro. He is game. Like, he. His technique's a lot better now. He had ACL surgery, I think, so he's getting better, but he's just passionate about the game. This is you wouldn't expect from a guy like that who's accomplished. This is the guy that fucking owns Facebook and Instagram. And, you know, so for me just to hang out with him and again, humanize him at the end, I was like, when I was. Man, you're a lot cooler than I expected. I appreciate it, just hanging out with him.
Akash Singh
I feel like his rebrand has gone really, well, insane.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
What a way of him. And now that idea has changed completely.
Israel Adesanya
That's because it was through either the movie and people, just their own perception till he decided to stop being more active on social media and let people know who he is.
Akash Singh
People only know what you share.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
And if you share a certain thing that people tend to judge, like, there is a little reflection on that where you go, oh, wait a minute, maybe I'm partially responsible for this.
Israel Adesanya
But now most people don't think that unless collectively it happens as individuals. They don't. Then they follow the crowd and like, all, I guess he's cool now. I'm gonna jump on the trend.
Akash Singh
Yes.
Israel Adesanya
So, yeah, but he's a cool dude. I always have respect for that guy. You never met him.
Akash Singh
I've never met him.
Israel Adesanya
Now you and him get along. He's like. At first, when you meet him, he's a little standoffish. Not standoffish, just awkward. But then once you get to know him, he's cool. That he's just. Just a regular dude.
Mark Gagnon
You think some of it is getting humbled through, like, fighting, essentially.
Israel Adesanya
I would imagine maybe training would be training, because definitely every day you get humbled every day. There's no fake humility in fighting. It's not this like, oh, I want to act like, I'm not. You get your ass kicked. You know, you suck and you get bitter and you do it to someone else and then you suck again. So, yeah, I think so. I think definitely fighting would have helped him because. And again, like, for someone to actually want to do that. Crazy. And I respect that. Someone who actually wants to get in there professionally, even if it's against Elon or whoever else. But he still will fight. I don't think Elon would fight him, but I think he will still definitely fight.
Akash Singh
I think it's a good exercise, though, for powerful people. People. Because when you're as powerful as he is. Right. And we're not talking about just like regular power, like every country, if he wants to call up a prime minister.
Israel Adesanya
He can boom, easy.
Akash Singh
Because think about the influence that Facebook has in that country worldwide. Like, I mean, I imagine like a part of Elon buying Twitter.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Is his ability to access every single leader in the world. Hey, I own this platform that. Really? Yeah. Was that it? Was that it? Okay. Yeah. So it was like. I didn't know if it was an off camera thing or. No, he's got on camera. Okay, so. Okay, so. But the. So Mark Cuban was on and he was saying that, like, what an influence you have on the world. So. So Zuckerberg has it. And once you have that kind of power, people are. They might not be real with you.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. And you're not a real person to them.
Mark Gagnon
And intoxicated by that, of course.
Akash Singh
So, like, once you start doing something that is humbling, it could be a sport. It could be playing basketball and just getting dunked on. But fighting is probably the ultimate humbling because you have to realize in that moment while you're being choked out, this person is choosing to not kill me.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
All the money in the world can't.
Akash Singh
Say nothing can stop that. And maybe he's. I mean, he's clearly a smart guy, but maybe he's smart enough to realize that, like, his psyche needs that.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
His psyche needs to be reminded you're just a dude.
Israel Adesanya
I think men are starting to understand, like, it's not just about his brand and bronze and you can be the richest. This and that, but then that. When you talk about that power dynamic, that's why all this Wall street guys go pay hookers to, like, lash them and whatever.
Akash Singh
There's this thing called white collar boxing in New York where they all True. There would be these like walls in New Zealand.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. Like all these guys, not Wall street, but like businessmen, they do the charity boxing thing. So they train for maybe eight, nine weeks. And then.
Akash Singh
And then they do their smokers and we call them smokers here. Like, like a non sanctioned, like amateur fight. But like I think a part of it is like, hey, I need one to get out the energy. But also there's like a nice humbling.
Israel Adesanya
They need it.
Akash Singh
You need it to like learn and fight club.
Israel Adesanya
Yes. Yeah.
Akash Singh
100. No, it's good. It is.
Israel Adesanya
Bring that back. Did Zuck say he actually wants to compete? Yeah, like professionally, even without the. Because the Elon fight was like the thing that made it really popular between them two. But isn't he said not professionally, but.
Akash Singh
Like to enter a tournament. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Like a smoker, but he'll fight someone that's equally. Because he did the jujitsu comp. And again, shout out to him. He did it under a different name till he walked on the mat and people were like, oh, and that was smart. So that way people don't know I'm fighting Zuck. So then he did it under a different name, put on up on the mat and those who saw it, saw it and he did. Well, he won the fight. So, yeah, I think he will at that level. Not like again, professionally, just someone who can hang with me.
Akash Singh
It's very easy to, when you get successful, to stop doing hard things. You have to do hard things. I always say this to Joe, but it's like doing. He's addicted to making himself uncomfortable. And it's why he's so great, is he's not afraid to constantly make himself uncomfortable. And once you get money, it's very easy to be comfortable. And you see, like the kids of wealthy people, oftentimes they. They shy away from. Yeah. But like, they shy away from discomfort because they don't ever have to be.
Israel Adesanya
They never had to be.
Akash Singh
Think of the level of discomfort you had to go through to get where you are.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
You have to go live in China. Chinese women.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Oh, no, that wasn't cocktail. That was really good.
Israel Adesanya
They're good at that.
Akash Singh
There's a billion of them.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
No, no, no, no. But like, like the amount of up you had to go through. Right. And it's like, if you just stop making yourself uncomfortable, what would happen up here? Something. There's going to be a change.
Israel Adesanya
I've been there. You know, there's ways I felt when I'm like, I can feel it. Like, you're like, okay, I got to find a way to just. That's what I see the last, bro. Every time I'm about to. Every night before I hop into the. The cold pool, my brain would always try and stop me, so I override that by just like, no, I'm the master of my own body. And I just, boom, straight away, dive in there, feel the thing, be in there for two minutes, go in the spa, then again, again. But the first one, it's always just that your brain's like, no, no, no. And you're just, like, walking through, and I just boom, dive in. So again, you do that. Reps, you kind of calcify your mind. You make yourself the master of your own destiny, and it transfers into other bits of your life where you just. I have to go. So this camp. I'm gonna find other ways to make myself uncomfortable. Might start going yoga, because I don't really have a camp yet, so I'm just. I have some free time, so I'll maybe do something different. And, like, yoga is nice. What else? I can't stretch. Like, you know these Lululemon chicks.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
You know, so I want to get to that level.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
You want to be able to stretch like them.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Get some.
Akash Singh
I feel like you're flexible.
Israel Adesanya
You could do all that. I'm flexible, but again, I'm 35. Yeah. So I'm not the same. Like, sometimes if. If I am not striking as often as I. As I should be. Takes me about a week and a half, maybe, to get my back. Yeah. But when I was younger, bro, I'd be out all night, get out of bed, something, not even sleep, go to sparring and. Yeah, but I can't do that anymore because I'm older and I'm smarter now.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
So I'm not as wild as I used to be, but still, time and place.
Akash Singh
Yes, there's a time and place, guys. Anything else for the one, the only, the last style Bender? I don't know if you can talk.
Israel Adesanya
About this, but the UFC recently settled the class action lawsuit with, like, a bunch of fighters. Yeah. Does. Are all the fighters included in that class action? I think it's from a certain period, so I don't really know too much about it, but I think it's from a certain period, and I don't even know if it's still going on. I think maybe he rejected it. So it's going to. Yeah, they're going to do a miss. Like a mistrial. I think they're going to do an actual trial instead of a settlement. I see. Okay. So the judge did reject it, but again, it's not. Doesn't include me. Includes some fighters from a certain time period. So. Yeah, that'll be interesting. We'll see what happens. Yeah.
Akash Singh
Anything else?
Israel Adesanya
That's a good answer.
Akash Singh
Media train. Your media train, bro. The film. Oh, we talk about the film.
Israel Adesanya
I mean, you saw the film.
Akash Singh
This is so crazy. We saw the. Over a year ago look.
Israel Adesanya
So I'll say this. It was just sometimes some people can't see the forest for the trees. And I've always said I'm not local, I'm global. And at least now the movie can globally be. Be seen. And I'm happy about that because you've seen it. You saw what? It wasn't really a fight documentary. It was a fight documentary, but it's more about, say, me dealing with this lifestyle, the spotlight.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
And for me, the best picture I saw was a lady on a plane knitting. Old lady on a plane knitting. Watching it. And someone sent me that, and I thought that was cool.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
So that way it shows that it's not just a film about a fighter. It's a. You know, it's a. I mean, there's.
Akash Singh
A few storylines, but, like, what a. What a magical one that, like, when they're making it, you. They didn't know that you're going to beat Peretta the second time.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah. That again, they hurried it up because again, sometimes some people.
Akash Singh
But that is included.
Israel Adesanya
That is at the end. But that's. They rushed that bit because they. I think they. They stopped filming before. Before the Pereira New York fight. So then the film was then in post while that was happening. So they kind of put that bit at the end. But again, the story's still being written. But right now, this film, it's about.
Akash Singh
You and your fight with your own life and, like, how you're coping these things. Yeah, I think that is. But there will be another thing, I think, about that saga with you and Alex.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
And I think that that would be 30 for 30. Yeah. I think you got to get Bill Simmons or something like that to do it. Like, he was the guy who started the 30 for 30 something. I'm mistaken, right. Yeah. It's like. I think it's got to be that caliber. And it's. But this is great because this is. If you're, like, a real fan of you, you get to explore, like, an emotional side of you that you'll share. Share on pods and that kind of stuff. But, like, you're, like, crying in it. You're, like, really talking about what makes you insecure, what makes you uncomfortable.
Israel Adesanya
This is the most exposed I've ever felt.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
On tv. So even the first time I got on a plane and I realized, oh, my film's on the plane. Yeah, I. I shut down. So I got into my seat, there was a whole family, and I just, like. I was really awkward. And now in my head, I just assumed, like, people will be watching it and then. Or maybe seeing it, and then, like. And I just felt so insecure about it. I'm fine now, but that was the first time. And I read I might have had an edible or something, so it made me more sensitive. But then I was just very like, oh, I didn't want to be seen. So I just shut down for the rest of the flight. But I'm fine with it now, exposing myself. And now it's going to be seen in North America. I think it's on prime and Apple TV.
Akash Singh
And Apple TV. Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Globally.
Akash Singh
Even YouTube, you can rent it.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, yeah. But again, it's, like, cool. This is me. I'm a human being. I'm a human animal. I have a range of emotions that can be seen in this film from when I was a kid to now. But again, if people are going to take whatever they want to take from this, I'd say I practice what I preach when I talk about people dealing with their mental health because they don't want to get mentally ill, like, physically. And I actually show them how to do it, because most people who don't, they think, oh, I'm not crazy on it. Go see some therapist or whatever. But then I'm showing you. This is. It's simple. Last time I went, I'll talk to Jen, it would have been a month ago before that. I didn't realize when she told me, izzy, it's been three years. And I was like, really? Wow. Yeah. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
Fuck.
Israel Adesanya
So I was like, holy shit. And I just thought maybe like a year. And she's like, no, Izzy, it's been three years. I was like, are you serious? So, yeah. But then life, the tools I got from her, right. Helped me deal with a lot of things. And I just, cool. But then there's the residuals, you don't know about that just pile up. And then you just, I'll deal with that later. But you don't know you're doing that. And it got piled up to a point that after that incident with the fucking dickhead, I was just like, nah, Fuck this. So I kind of shut down and then I like, yo, Janet, can we talk? Got some stuff off. I didn't want to bombard her. So when I get back home now, I'll talk to her about some new stuff and be like, right, I got this to deal with now. I've been piling up homework. So in that movie, when I show people how to do it, you know, I practice it as well and like, yeah, I fall off. Like I said, it's been three years.
Akash Singh
Every life change requires a reset.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Every single one.
Israel Adesanya
Like having a kid.
Akash Singh
Having a kid. And like it throws. You think you have it all figured out and then you have a kid and you are back to zero, square one and you have to refigure it all out. And that, I mean, that's the important of having like a partner. That's down to figure it out with you. Because that is, that's why you got to choose. You got to choose that partner wisely and. But I imagine in your life every trying to become champion, becoming champion, like losing the belt, gaining the belt, like all these things. What is my new identity without the belt? Now I got it again. Oh my God. Everybody loves me now that I have the belt again. Maybe they never stopped loving me. Maybe they did. Maybe they just like all these things if you just ignore and put to the side.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah.
Akash Singh
You're gonna deal with them through stress. And I thought that's what was cool about the film is you trying to figure it out.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, I still am constantly like even now in this new level, you know, there's even in my personal life, I try and keep it as private as I can, but then in this film, I, I, There was one point, the director was like, we need a love interest. I was like, hell no. I knew straight away, I was just like, Cuz I knew at the time, I was like, this ain't it. This ain't the one. Yeah, but.
Dov Davidoff
There was sort of a love interest in.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, but then she tried. I was like, no, this ain't the one. Like this thing. There was an interest. Well, it wasn't for me anyway.
Dov Davidoff
So not the right casting. The casting wasn't right.
Israel Adesanya
But look, I, I do get like fomo, you know, you just had a kid. You did. He just got engaged and but thing is, I'm grateful for. Is engaged. Yeah. David just got engaged in Tahiti. Did all that. Yeah.
Akash Singh
What's his name?
Israel Adesanya
Nah, but love you, David. She, she changed him, bro. So he lives. They kicked me out. Yeah, he did some girlfriend the house that. My first house I ever bought, he lives in that. They kicked me out, right? And then now every time I go there, it's always clean. And I'm like, why the. Wasn't this place spotless when we live together? But again, they bring out the best.
Akash Singh
In you, these women. She did. You get a good one. They bring up.
Israel Adesanya
And I'm proud of him for that because of the growth he's had. And I see that. And then I was. I was kind of getting to this point where I was just like, man, you know, I'm fine again, I'm a man. Shout out, dick pride. But still, you know, it's like, ah, it'll happen, it'll happen. But then when I was golfing with Kelly early this year, he then tells me, like, yeah, he's about to have a second one. I think it's public. Not public news, but it's on a story on Instagram or something. So he's had a second kid at 52. Who?
Akash Singh
Slater?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the girl. Yeah. My bad. Kelly Slater. Yeah.
Akash Singh
That might have been the coolest thing about the sphere is I got to.
Israel Adesanya
Like, oh, you met him? Yeah, he was there.
Akash Singh
That was awesome.
Israel Adesanya
He's the man.
Akash Singh
Such a cool dude. He is.
Israel Adesanya
Does not look 52 at all. Or 53 now maybe, but just had a second.
Akash Singh
He's been about the health forever, though.
Israel Adesanya
He's been locked in the ocean. Yeah, the ocean, yeah. But, yeah, he talked to me about that and kind of him. And one thing Bill Burr said years ago, just kind of let me know, like, it's fine. There's no rush. Because if you start rushing because, you know, a lot of these girls, they do that. They're trying, like, oh, it's like 35, but I need someone. And they find the wrong guy, settle down, have kid with the wrong guy. Now you got deal with that guy for the rest of your life. Yeah, that ain't me. I'm not trying to be that person. So, yeah, I'm just gonna chill and probably one day share this part of my life. But at the moment, I like peace. I like. And this is where I'm at with peace, is just me, myself and I. And then doing all this to better myself will attract not just that, but the best. Because already it's attracting the best. Like deals and positions for me. Like, look, we've got broke boy. We've got, you know, his company that's doing well, and all these other things that I happening, I can't really talk about right now, but it's because I'm just focused on me and being the best me. So yeah, I feel like I'm in a good place. But again, it will happen when it's supposed to. Yeah, I'm still in the race. Even when I was in the labs, I said this. I tried to get on riot for the last two years. They still trying to process me. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna get on Hinge just to see what's up. But then Hinge is not what I thought it was.
Akash Singh
Nah.
Dov Davidoff
Wait, what was it?
Israel Adesanya
No, it's just like the whole fucking questionnaire.
Mark Gagnon
You have to flip why I didn't accept you. That's. That's some racist shit.
Dov Davidoff
That's makes me feel.
Akash Singh
We're. We'll figure out that R. No, Ryan.
Israel Adesanya
Was more like, I'm just like, let's see what's happening. But then it wasn't. I was like, still. But then hos was like, they're all looking for.
Akash Singh
We're going to make some different. Yeah, we're going to make. You're going to do some damage on.
Israel Adesanya
R. That's what I'm trying to do, man. But I'm saying I was trying.
Akash Singh
But we could walk outside for five minutes. You'll be fine.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, I'd rather. Look, I'd rather. If I'm going to get rejected, I'd rather happen the old fashioned way. Rejected, real life, face to face, you know what I mean? Rather than like swiping, swiping. Why do you need a dating app? Like, I don't, I don't, but I just thought I'd try it just for the ls.
Akash Singh
We should see the girls in Auckland.
Dov Davidoff
They're not.
Akash Singh
Damn.
Israel Adesanya
That's what I'm saying. While we're out here, we shoot because what happened?
Akash Singh
Not it.
Israel Adesanya
Wait, why?
Mark Gagnon
Why?
Akash Singh
What's the deal? They got too much sheep in them.
Israel Adesanya
Look, there's some, there's some. There's some, some really nice girls out there. But if you talk about per capita, like in New York, in New York and la, it's crazy.
Akash Singh
We're spoiled.
Israel Adesanya
We're spoiled.
Akash Singh
Bro. Bro.
Israel Adesanya
Constantly. We're on the streets, just like me and Matt. Just like the. Not even shy about it anymore. That's why in the airports I just put shades on so I can perv in peace. You're a lot of look. You're a lot of look. You're a lot of look.
Akash Singh
They came outside.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, I'm outside.
Akash Singh
Why they come outside.
Israel Adesanya
Why you looking at me?
Akash Singh
Too. You know what I mean?
Israel Adesanya
I'm looking at me looking at you looking at me.
Akash Singh
Exactly.
Israel Adesanya
I like those. They're fun. And you get some good interactions, but yeah, you get some weird ones. I had a stalker.
Akash Singh
No.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, that's my bad.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, well, the one that I found. But wait a minute.
Akash Singh
What happened? What happened? What does she look like? First?
Israel Adesanya
So I had to. This is just for. I sent this to my lawyer because I was like, okay, I need to get this on. On film, just so he knows. And then he's like, right, you need to send her a restraining order. So I got her on the cam, on. On the camera, cuz she somehow found the ding dong. And when I asked her how she goes, honestly, I don't.
Mark Gagnon
Whoa, that's wild.
Akash Singh
Hold on one second. That's not a stalker, bro. That's. That's just.
Dov Davidoff
She found the ding dong.
Israel Adesanya
The. I mean, the number to. To get to my apartment.
Akash Singh
So, yeah, n. You got to let her in. She needs help.
Israel Adesanya
Well, let me tell you. Oh, she needs help.
Akash Singh
She needs him. She needs.
Israel Adesanya
She see a term around.
Akash Singh
No, no, it's crazy.
Israel Adesanya
I think she's Colombian too. So you know they.
Akash Singh
Nah, that was wild. And that was the road rage guy's sister.
Israel Adesanya
No, but.
Dov Davidoff
So for real, you see from the front.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, that's fire. But. But so one time she ended up.
Akash Singh
How you see from the front.
Israel Adesanya
No, no, no.
Akash Singh
So one time, she better than me, bro.
Israel Adesanya
Again, I'm glad I have a little bit of, you know, discipline. Discipline. A little bit. Sometimes I don't, but this one, I'm glad I did because if I did, then I'm pretty sure I'd have problems right now.
Akash Singh
You got to jerk off to the security camp, then you let her in.
Mark Gagnon
Why do you think he took that video?
Israel Adesanya
For the lawyer.
Mark Gagnon
That's what I call my dick too.
Israel Adesanya
Lay down the law.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
No, but again, like, shit like that doesn't happen all the time. But I'm sure, look, I'm sure people have stalkers that are really good that they don't know about for years.
Akash Singh
They trap them up, up. All these NBA players, bro.
Israel Adesanya
The amount of older women that get with these young players.
Akash Singh
Oh, that's all game.
Israel Adesanya
That's sad. No, but again, look, if like, you see someone, you're like, cool. That's legal.
Akash Singh
They just know the game. Like, they know.
Israel Adesanya
Yes, they're hot, they're 42. They're like, cool. I'm gonna get you. You're 21. Bang.
Akash Singh
And also, like the kids, I think this is a little bit different now, but like, if you're a superstar athlete, you're famous at like probably around 14.
Israel Adesanya
Oh, really?
Akash Singh
In America, Right? Because, okay, they start recruiting you of all these things, like you're getting offers and like, they don't really develop the skills to talk to girls because they're just a superstar athlete and they're just practicing. So they don't really. So they're like kind of awkward and uncomfortable. And then this older girl that knows how to make them comfy, they got that maternal instinct. They're also not really tripping when they're going out there, like talking to other girls. They're not trying to lock them down. Like these young ones are that, yeah, go have some fun. And like, oh my God, this girl's the coolest girl ever.
Israel Adesanya
She letting me do this.
Akash Singh
Gotcha.
Dov Davidoff
And these girls are technically also pedophiles.
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, that also the guys are 21. Whatever, it's legal. But I mean, yeah, rumors. But again, if it was the other way, I mean, Leo gets away with it.
Mark Gagnon
So Leo impregnate him.
Akash Singh
Yeah, yeah, he knows what he's doing. I wonder if he.
Israel Adesanya
Snatch and release. Catch and release. That's the one. Catch and release.
Akash Singh
Snip. If you're Leo or like if, if you're somebody, would you just freeze your sperm in a few different places?
Israel Adesanya
You can put it back, right? You can reverse it.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
He's gotta snip. He got.
Israel Adesanya
I'm just too scared. I just. Yeah.
Akash Singh
Nah, don't snip.
Israel Adesanya
Nah. Hell no. No, no, no, no, I'm. I'm good.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Israel Adesanya
Again, I look when I was wilder, I never had a baby. Cause I never pull out of a fight. But my pull out game is.
Akash Singh
Is elite.
Israel Adesanya
Elite.
Akash Singh
Elites.
Israel Adesanya
Elites. But then now, again, I'm smart. I'm smart. Now in Auckland again, it's just the cesspool is just everybody's everybody.
Akash Singh
That's the other thing.
Israel Adesanya
Like I imagine like small city, you know, Val, he was only there for.
Dov Davidoff
A week, but he was like, this.
Akash Singh
Guy, this guy is a bad guy.
Israel Adesanya
I love him. That's why we. Hey, you know what he does?
Akash Singh
This is. He does this shit. It is so funny.
Israel Adesanya
I love it though. I love it though.
Akash Singh
If there's a dude that like, will be like, come hang for whatever reason, it don't matter who it is, they might become hanging and like, they'll say, yeah, I just started dating this girl, right? And would do this all the time. Oh, where, where from? He's like, oh, she lives in la. And he'll be like, oh, oh, what's her name? And then he'll be like. He'll be like, oh, Megan. And he goes, oh, Megan. Every single time, he goes, oh, yeah, Megan. And then he don't follow up. And the dude. Dude just sits there like, what do.
Israel Adesanya
You mean by that?
Akash Singh
Dick down, my girl. What exactly you mean by oh, yeah, Megan?
Israel Adesanya
The whole rest of the night sits in his head like, the did Val me.
Akash Singh
That's an evil guy right there.
Israel Adesanya
And Megan, do you know. You know. You know, Val.
Akash Singh
Isn't that a horrible thing to say? Oh, yeah, Megan.
Israel Adesanya
He's just letting him know he does this a lot.
Akash Singh
He does this a lot. We did some innocent fun, do we not?
Israel Adesanya
Yeah, we did. It was innocent and fun. Yeah, nice.
Akash Singh
Do anything.
Dov Davidoff
Said you were crazy in bed.
Israel Adesanya
When.
Dov Davidoff
You came back, you said.
Akash Singh
Shark put up, like, a shirtless pic. And, like, Vol is looking. He's like, yo, look at Shannon Sharp. And Shannon's just looking Jack. And we're all like, damn, that Jack. He's like 50 years old. How he still Jack? And V goes, yo, he must be crazy in bed. Like, what? And was I right? Anyway, listen, Izzy, we love you, bro. We. We are excited to be on this journey, man, and see what's next for you. And, you know we're there to support. Likewise, brother.
Israel Adesanya
And love forever. Flagrant crew. Dang love.
Podcast Summary: Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh Episode Title: Stylebender’s Fighting Future, Jon Jones Legacy, & Street Fighting Release Date: November 20, 2024
Andrew Schulz's Flagrant podcast features a candid and dynamic conversation between host Akaash Singh, UFC champion Israel Adesanya, comedian Mark Gagnon, and producer Dov Davidoff. This episode delves deep into Adesanya's fighting philosophies, personal anecdotes, and reflections on legacy and future endeavors.
Timestamp: [00:00 - 00:42]
The episode kicks off with Israel Adesanya recounting a tense encounter with an individual challenging him to a street fight. Adesanya emphasizes his preference for professional combat over spontaneous confrontations:
Israel Adesanya ([00:05]): "I fight for millions. I'm not gonna knock your ass out for free."
He elaborates on his disdain for street fights, highlighting the risks involved and his commitment to handling problems within a controlled environment like the UFC.
Timestamp: [02:11 - 04:02]
Mark Gagnon shares the joyous news of welcoming a new baby boy into his family. The conversation touches on the challenges of home births and the humorous mishaps during labor, such as Davidoff stubbing his toe:
Dov Davidoff ([03:27]): "Imagine, I've been hitting my pinky toe during the labor!"
Mark and his co-host Greg discuss the selective naming of their child, keeping details under wraps to protect his identity.
Timestamp: [04:19 - 14:32]
Adesanya delves into his mindset regarding championship belts and the pressures of defense:
Israel Adesanya ([12:09]): "The longer you defend the belt, the less risk you take."
He contrasts his approach with fighters like Jon Jones and Anderson Silva, emphasizing his desire to take calculated risks to maintain excitement in his fights. Adesanya reflects on potential future fights, his motivation beyond titles, and the importance of continuous personal growth.
Timestamp: [90:00 - 143:57]
The conversation broadens as Adesanya shares personal stories from his upbringing in Nigeria and New Zealand, touching on spiritual experiences and cultural practices:
Israel Adesanya ([137:02]): "I've seen some shit. It's real."
He recounts supernatural occurrences from his childhood, interactions with spiritual healers, and the influence of diverse cultures on his worldview. The discussion also ventures into relationships, the challenges of fame, and maintaining authenticity amidst public scrutiny.
Timestamp: [143:00 - 149:12]
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to analyzing Jon Jones' legacy in the UFC. Adesanya praises Jones as one of the greatest fighters and speculates on his potential move to heavyweight:
Israel Adesanya ([41:53]): "I think Stipe is a legend in the game. One of, if not the greatest heavyweight ever."
The hosts discuss the anticipation surrounding a hypothetical bout between Jones and other top heavyweights, contemplating the impact such fights would have on the sport.
Timestamp: [149:12 - End]
As the episode nears its conclusion, the hosts reflect on the evolution of their careers, the importance of pushing personal boundaries, and the future of the UFC. Adesanya expresses gratitude for the support from his friends and discusses his aspirations beyond fighting, hinting at interests in motion capture and video game development.
This episode of Flagrant offers an unfiltered glimpse into the lives and minds of some of the most influential figures in comedy and mixed martial arts. From intense street fight stories to deep personal reflections, listeners gain insight into Israel Adesanya's relentless drive, Mark Gagnon's joyous fatherhood, and the intricate dynamics of the UFC's elite fighters. The candid discussions underscore the balance between personal growth, professional ambition, and maintaining authenticity in the limelight.
Note: This summary excludes advertisement segments, intros, outros, and non-content sections as per the podcast's guidelines.