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Alex
What's up, everybody, and welcome to Flagrance.
Mark
Yes, we're back finally for the first time.
Miles
This is.
Alex
For the first time we have. We have not already done the podcast.
Mark
Alex is already hating on Drake, which is pissing me off.
Alex
Listen, we're gonna get to the Drake stuff. Yeah, we're gonna get to the Drake stuff. Relax, you. Yeah, you.
Miles
Don't turn the pants off me. Just give it at least five minutes.
Alex
I'm about to go. The builder, bro.
Mark
I'm about to go.
Alex
Well, can we get to Drake in one second? We have an important story to tell. We're just wash dads on the road doing comedy. Shout out. Everybody in Salt Lake City and a friend of will remain anonymous. Yes, a friend of ours will remain anonymous. Anonymous. Last tour was with us. Took down a porn star in Las Vegas and did not share this story with us.
Miles
Yeah, okay, so this is when I think I was out there too, right?
Alex
I mean, if it was a fun city, I would imagine you would find. Oh, I got to record a podcast in Barcelona. Like, yo, we're going to be in Vegas.
Miles
Oh, they got that, you know, sphere.
Alex
We're going to be in Kansas City this weekend. My LA studio is getting renovated.
Mark
This is what happens, though.
Alex
God. Yo, we're not starting to pot over again.
Mark
Believe it. We'll just believe it.
Alex
Believe that name.
Mark
Okay, so a random anonymous friend of ours says to Scholz, he's like, yo, thanks for. Thanks for letting me have your penthouse suite.
Miles
Ooh, so nice.
Mark
He gets a penthouse suite at one of the casinos because he's performing there and then.
Alex
But what did I choose to do?
Mark
He had a red eye back to go see his family.
Alex
Family man.
Mark
He's leaving, but he has his penthouse suite for the night. So he gives it to one of his friends and goes, hey, you can just have it.
Alex
So he finds a porn star that looks exactly like Dove.
Mark
I don't think so. I actually think she's hot, to be honest.
Alex
No, no, she's a very attractive girl. Obviously. She's very successful.
Miles
What a fuck Dove? Is that what you just said?
Mark
I mean, this Dove. This Dove's not bad.
Miles
She's a little manly.
Alex
Why are we starting out this meme? This is ab.
Mark
Beautiful girl.
Alex
No, beautiful Dove, I think is a handsome guy.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
And when you.
Miles
Is also beautiful.
Alex
Yeah, beautiful. So when you get to that level of handsome, there's going to be a little bit of crossover.
Mark
Dove was stacked like that. I guess he kind of is. But if he was, it was.
Alex
Was. Yeah, it was Was.
Mark
But he's telling us the story, like, kind of in passing.
Alex
Definitely no chemical compound helping with that.
Miles
You guys suck. None of this is gonna be you. I'm not them. You still got tits. You still got tits.
Mark
Yeah. But he brings us a story. He's like, oh, yeah, thanks, by the way. And all of us just, like, record scratch. Like, what? And he starts telling us the story. He's like, yeah, you know, I hooked up with a porn star, you know, in the penthouse.
Alex
And he's doing that classic thing that this specific friend that will remain nameless does, where, like, he drops, like, the most interesting little tidbit and then, like, pretends to walk away from it.
Miles
You do the same.
Alex
You do that. Jake's want to know. Jake, want to know, my dog?
Mark
Only a master knows another master.
Alex
Come on. You want to catch fish, you need bait.
Guest
My boy.
Miles
He'll just scroll through his phone like, whoa. And just keep scrolling, just waiting for somebody to be like, yeah, what? What?
Mark
But he also loves that, though. Do you remember when we were doing the Netflix virtual? Me, me, and Miles were in one of the back rooms, and we were like, yo, watch this, watch this, watch this. Ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. And then Schultz immediately runs in.
Alex
You guys having fun in here? I'm like, the neighbor from Home Improvement.
Mark
You got a little joy in it. Let me have some of that. But he starts telling us the story, and we're all so washed that we're just listening with, like, so much intention.
Miles
Yeah.
Mark
And then we all start just slow playing, and we're like, no, tell us every detail.
Alex
Can I just back up? He starts telling the story like a woman. Like, he tells us. He's like, yo, I hooked up with this porn star. And then he starts going into, like, emotionally what he was dealing with. Like, he starts going be like, yeah, I was so nervous because, you know, she's been with all these guys, and we're like, yeah, nobody gives a flying fuck about your nerves or anxiety. Tell us how much coke you had to give her to get her up to the penthouse, and then tell us what happened in the penthouse.
Miles
Tell us how much money.
Alex
That's the funny part. It's more of a barter.
Mark
He met the two. He met two porn stars together, and then they were hanging out. He was like, yo, am I about to get. Get the double up? And then one of them got a call that she had to tend to.
Alex
She had to go to work.
Miles
Okay.
Mark
And then the other one, I guess, didn't get a call.
Miles
Okay.
Alex
Damn. That's kind of up to put it that way, Mark.
Mark
Well, I mean, that is.
Alex
That is messed up to put it that way.
Mark
Is that how it happened?
Miles
Is that how it happened?
Alex
You had to say, one had to work that the other day. The way we were saying is, you know, one did.
Miles
Charity, sometimes you gotta give back.
Mark
She gave our friend a promo code. She got the.
Alex
The flavor 20.
Mark
Yeah, he got the promo code. And so he redeemed it and got the. The value of the. The proposition. But he starts saying he barter services.
Alex
No, not at all. They're just up there, they're vibing.
Miles
Okay?
Alex
But he's telling the story, and he's talking about, like, what he's going through. He keeps on, like, harping about this. Like, we're up in the room, and I don't know what I'm talking about. I'm like, bro, fast forward. Get us to the good part. Do you make out with her? Does she make the move? Whatever.
Mark
And he's like, well, we traded WhatsApp numbers, and then we were texting back and forth. She sent me, like, an emoji. And he's like, keep going. Get through this part.
Guest
Yeah.
Mark
Schultz is like Muhammad Ali in fight camp. Just, like, he needs every detail explained to him by, like, the other people around, you know, just, like, every. So at one point, our friend is like, yeah, you know, like, I was. I was looking out at the. At the Vegas, you know, skyline, looking at the sphere in this giant penthouse, and she started sucking me off and
Alex
almost goes, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Mark
Did she unbutton your pants or did you do it?
Miles
It's an important, important detail.
Alex
You're making out, like.
Mark
But he needed everything.
Alex
I need every single detail. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't want to tell you guys this. I got a little hard. I did, I did, I did. I know, I know, I know. Not fully, but, like, too much? No, no, no, no, no. Because I was asking the question.
Mark
I wanted to know the line, dude.
Miles
Oh, no.
Mark
Towing a lot.
Alex
I was over the line.
Miles
But your friend's right there because you have to picture his dick in the scenario.
Alex
I pictured it, and. And I made it bigger. I was very. I was very, very kind and generous to him in, like, my mind, as I was, you know, thinking about it, and. And I. And we all wanted to know because it's a porn star, right? Like, there's an expectation, you know, if you play one on one with, like, Steph Curry, like, you want to know where he's pulling from. And, like, we go. When she went down, did she do all the things or did she have, like. Was it, like, a night off? Because I'm sure that they do it casually, too. Yeah. Like, there's a different level of performance when the cameras are on and the lights are on. You're getting paid.
Miles
How much of a porn star? Because if it's onlyfans, that's like.
Alex
No.
Miles
An author. That sounds public.
Mark
This girl's studio. This girl's studio. Oh, she's.
Alex
This is not one of Dr. Umar's books.
Miles
Okay.
Alex
Okay. This is.
Miles
That's what I'm saying.
Alex
Like, yeah, this is. This is the real deal.
Miles
Okay.
Alex
Schuster. Yeah.
Mark
This Random House.
Alex
So she says she went for it. Yeah. Tried to eat the booty while he was standing.
Mark
He.
Alex
Oh, come on, Miles.
Mark
Come on.
Alex
This is a little early in the pot to even share something.
Miles
Like, got me now.
Alex
Tried to eat the booty while he was standing.
Miles
I'm about to get rocked.
Alex
See what I'm saying? Made him spread his legs like a cop. Yeah, right. Spread the legs. And he rejected the booty Lick stopping for a second. Yeah.
Miles
Unless he's a little dirty.
Alex
Of course he's dirty. They've been at a nightclub partying in Las Vegas. But the fact that she still went for it.
Mark
Ow.
Alex
I mean, it's like, he got one. I want one. It's truly.
Guest
Cheers for the L. That's for the
Alex
L. I'm Cheers for the F. Everything else is in.
Mark
And then the funniest part, how you
Miles
turn that down from a porn star. That would have been probably the best. I don't even know cleanest his ass would have ever been.
Alex
Oh.
Mark
Anyway, the funniest part is that he. So he's in this penthouse suite with a whole panoramic view of the entire Las Vegas skyline. And he was like, yeah, dude. She was. She was blowing me. It was awesome. And we were like, which way were you facing?
Alex
Oh, yeah, because she put him up on the window.
Mark
He got pinned up.
Alex
So immediately I'm like, wait, wait, what? And I was like, your back is to the. To the window. He's like, yeah. And I'm like, no, no, not at all.
Mark
He was almost Patrick Bateman. He was like, this close. He was, like, looking out on the city.
Alex
She shouldn't have the view because she can't see anything.
Miles
Exactly.
Alex
It should be reversed. And then you're seeing the entire Vegas island. You're seeing the sphere.
Miles
Oh, yeah.
Alex
Everything.
Miles
Then one arm on the glass. You know, it's A little support system. We've been there before. Come on.
Mark
Massive fumble.
Alex
I'm glad that we're thinking the exact same. Yeah, ye glad we're thinking the same thing. Turn around. Like, listen, I think that. I think when you're in a situation like that, you're just trying to hold on for dear life.
Miles
You're a dp. Get your angles right, bro.
Alex
DP Me? Oh, those are different meanings. Okay, Drake.
Mark
But, yeah, that was our wonderful week in Sol.
Alex
Yeah. Imagine holding on to that story for two years and not telling your friends. Right?
Miles
Did he pipe?
Mark
Yeah.
Miles
Oh, okay. Last long.
Mark
Well, that's the annoying part. This.
Alex
He goes, yeah, you know, like, because we asked that. I love how you're asking every question. I love how you're asking the exact same questions that we were asking. Right.
Miles
The important.
Alex
Because we were like, yo, how long did it last? And he was like, well, you have to understand, like, emotionally what I've been going through.
Miles
I want to slap frustrated.
Mark
We need this bad, bro.
Alex
We needed it bad. You know what number he threw out there, how long he lasted? He's like, it was all right. Just guess the number that all right is.
Miles
Knowing him, I would have been like, he probably said, like, 20 minutes or
Alex
some like that, son.
Mark
Bang on, dude.
Alex
It was almost like you were there with us. That's crazy.
Miles
Oh, come on. Why? You got a front.
Alex
You got a front. Yeah.
Mark
A mediocre display of 20, 25. Yeah, like. And we're like, that's the cumulative. She don't got one video.
Alex
25 minutes. You just gave her the longest.
Miles
That's a nut. Rest n that again, right?
Alex
He said. He said. He said. He said he had to play pool for, like, 15 minutes before they hooked up. And we were like, why? He goes, that blue Chew ain't kick in yet. He literally did the ad.
Mark
He did the ad.
Miles
He needed the blue Chew gold. I know.
Alex
It wasn't invented yet.
Mark
Anyway, Any other questions that you're. You're ruminating on?
Miles
Did he circle black?
Alex
No. We asked the same thing. Have you circled the block? And he said no. It is really amazing how we have the exact same curiosity.
Mark
There's only 10 questions, I guess.
Alex
Yeah, but, like, all of us wanted to know the exact same thing. And somehow when he was communicating it, none of these things were answered. Like, I almost wanted him to tell you the story without you asking a question.
Miles
I really was getting frustrated at, like,
Alex
the level of, like, come on, get hard. And they would soften up again, and our guard would soften up Again, Cool. Yeah, yeah, dude. Anyway, y' all listen to that Drake.
Mark
Iceman is out.
Alex
The Iceman cometh. Yep. Listen, I know there's a lot of you guys out there that have been dying for us to, you know, review this triple album.
Mark
Our rap take is very.
Alex
Our rap take is very influential in the hip hop community. I know the asshole army really wants to hear it. I mean, you just think about, we have. We have a black guy, we have a white guy, and we have a guy that everyone seems to think is Jewish. So together, we are probably the most qualified group.
Miles
We're drink.
Alex
We are Drake.
Mark
We're Drake.
Alex
At the end of the day, we're drink.
Mark
We're Dr. I'm Iceman.
Alex
I mean, facts, you know?
Mark
So, like, I think you're Iceman. I think I'm maid of honor. I think you're habiti.
Alex
You're definitely hibifty. Yeah, you're definitely hibifty.
Miles
Yeah, you know, fudge, you guys.
Mark
How about that?
Alex
How about that? So listen, we got it. I mean, we got to talk about it. What did you think?
Miles
I want to hate, but Drake is back, bro.
Alex
Wait, wait, don't want to hate.
Miles
I said I want to hate.
Alex
Oh, you want to hate, but Drake is back.
Miles
Drake is back.
Alex
It's heat, bro.
Miles
Drake is back.
Alex
It's. He like, it's fun to listen to, but if you're like a rap. Rap rapper, like, you like bars, it's crazy. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy.
Miles
And you know what it was? Drake's been on top for so long that it was just kind of fun for him not to be on top for a little bit. So we just had to. Just some fun. Even though I'm a Drake fan, but it was fun just to clown him for a bit. But he's back. If you hate on this album, you're just a hater.
Alex
You're a hater.
Miles
This shit is.
Alex
Which one you talking about? Iceman or the all three?
Miles
The whole girly shit. I haven't even touched that. Like, I played a couple songs on it and I habibty two out of the three. That's good enough for me.
Alex
Two out of three is insane.
Miles
I mean, it's a lot of songs, bro.
Alex
Sure. That's the thing. I think most people and we were talking about this this weekend, it's like. I don't think most people have even really suggested three. Yeah, I think they're like, listen to Iceman and they've like jumped around songs on the other two. So I think There'll be other songs that start to pop up from the other two, but Iceman got some slaps.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
Yeah.
Miles
Biggest win, Toronto.
Alex
Talk to me.
Miles
They finally have some pride back because
Alex
that's all they had the weekends.
Miles
He don't. He barely claims them. He's always in la.
Alex
Yeah, he's more laughing, but he's still theirs. Yeah, he's still theirs.
Miles
Yeah. But I'm just saying, like, now they got pride again. They're smiling. They weren't smiling for a good two years.
Alex
And I don't like them. I don't like them down. Like, Canadians are their best when they feel good, happy. Like they were getting bullied by Trump with the 51st stage. Like, they were just going through a lot of, like, torture.
Miles
So we beat him at hockey. That's how bad.
Alex
If he dropped this album before that game, we might have a silver medal. Oh, yeah, we might have a silver medal. Yeah.
Mark
I thought it was fire.
Alex
I really, I, I.
Mark
But I'm also a Drake Glazer, admittedly.
Alex
Why is it glazing to appreciate the person who's the best at the thing? Am I a Michael Jordan Glazer?
Miles
No.
Mark
Yeah.
Miles
I was talking to him a little bit before the pod, and so the one that. Where he sounds like Kodak Black and I'm like, would you like it if somebody went on stage dressed like you and told the jokes exactly like you do it?
Mark
If it was Drake?
Miles
No, you wouldn't like that shit.
Alex
But you don't think he got the co sign from Kodak for that one?
Miles
It's not about that. It's like, either have a feature with him on the song, don't just steal his sound and his flow.
Alex
But wasn't he locked up?
Miles
Whatever. So then don't do it.
Alex
Got it.
Miles
It's just a weird thing to do. It sounds like him. It's the same flow.
Alex
The flow is identical to the.
Mark
What was it transporting?
Alex
Yeah, the transportant song that Kodak did. You think we were.
Miles
I just gotta watch out. Yeah, just watch out.
Alex
I thought that was fire. I thought Chevaldi.
Guest
Good.
Alex
I thought. What? Nah, you saw that one.
Miles
You gotta sandwich it in with something. You can't just try to.
Alex
I need to get the other part of the bun on it. Shut it down immediately. All right, guys, important announcements. June 5th and 6th will be at Virginia beach for shows. We'll also be August 8th in Halifax, Nova Scotia for a show out there. Great outdoors fest. Fantastic. And also, we're doing something really good for the world. Okay, June 4th the Life Paddle Classic. We partnered up with Neurogum and the IVF charity that I've been working with, BabyQuest. Amazing charity. Shout out to BabyQuest. They do incredible work helping people start families that are dealing with obvious financial constraints that come with ivf. But Neurogum is set this thing up. You go to neurogum.com pages Schultz, you buy that dad bundle. It's got your wake up mints, it's got your to sleep, man. It's got everything you possibly need. And all the proceeds from the entire event are going to go to Baby Quest. And if you're not able to show up to the event, you just want to support, go get some Neurogum as well, because all the proceeds from that link right there that I just told you about are going to be going to them. And there's also a button that's going to be on that website where you can just donate directly to BabyQuest. Again, you'll be changing people's lives. It's an absolute, absolutely amazing thing that you could, you could donate to. So that event's going to be taking place at Paddle House Dumbo Thursday, June 4, 1pm to 5pm Come hang out, come play, enjoy the day and shout out to Neurogum and BabyQuest.
Mark
Also, I have great news. Plano, Texas, Chandler, Arizona, Pasadena, California and Detroit, Michigan and Salt Lake City. I'm coming to you. I'm doing stand up comedy in all these places and you can get the tickets on my website, Markagnon Live. And I cannot wait to see you all there. Thank you very much, Alejandro.
Miles
And in the gift of giving, shout out to Food bank for nyc, they invited me to their gala that we had this past week. We raised 1.4 million or something like that to feed people in need. So that was awesome. And also thank everybody who came out to the tennis event I had this Saturday. It was fucking fantastic. The next one, if you missed it, the next one is going to be July 25th. Get your tickets@theallloveclub.com the next one is July 25th. See you guys there.
Alex
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Mark
No, I thought it was fire and I think people have been wanting to clown on it, and, like, there's bars that people are, like, pulling out and being like, oh, this sucks.
Alex
I don't know.
Mark
I just feel like the whole Kendrick Drake thing, just people being like, yeah, I wanted to hate on Drake for a year. I'm like, all right. It just feels lame to me that people want to just hate on him just because they want to hate.
Alex
I mean, that's. I. It is super lame, but that is kind of how we act towards people who have immense success for long periods of time. Yeah. Like, I remember Jordan going through it.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
Like, Jordan was obviously the best player in the league, and there are people that say, ah. But, you know, he's never going to be magic. He's never going to be burned. It's like, yeah, he's better than both of them, you know? So there is this, like, natural reaction, and you almost need to see somebody suffer so that you can celebrate them. We're very weird like that. And, like, the people that manage suffering, meaning, like, they share a lot of their suffering, are easier to root for, and you notice that. But the people who just crush it is harder to just celebrate.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
Are you celebrating someone who's only winning everybody's girl, making tons of money, putting out the best music? Like, yeah, there's a natural human instinct, I guess. And it sucks that we have it in us to kind of pull that person down. But if you're being objective, he's nice at the thing.
Mark
Yeah.
Miles
Yeah.
Mark
And so many, like, albums aside, just so many good songs over such a long period of time. Like, what, 12 years?
Miles
Yeah. This has been the greatest run in hip hop.
Mark
Even if there's only one good song on the album, he's putting out good songs every single year for 12 years. I'm like, that alone is impressive. So here's.
Alex
Here's. Here's my question. I have. I have two. One, I want to know everyone that he got at that I didn't even think he got at. Like, who are. Where are all the disses? Who are the craziest disses? Who are the disses? Who are the disses of the people that it's not even really publicly known yet. And then two, does this erase the Drake Kendrick beef?
Miles
Let's start with two, because.
Mark
Yeah, you want to start with two.
Alex
You don't think it erases it? Does it chip away from it?
Miles
No. In the same way that pusher T beat Drake. But Drake came back with good music where it's like, People aren't really talking about it anymore, but it's still an L on his record.
Alex
Yeah, but we don't even. I forgot he lost a pusher T I didn't like. Again, I'm more casual about it, but, like, to me, I think with music or with sports, there's this recency bias where, like, you could get knocked out in a fight. Like, for example, Francis Ngannou this past weekend, before this, Francis Ngannou got knocked out by Anthony Joshua, if I'm not mistaken, in a boxing match. He comes in this week, and he fights a guy who's definitely a lesser opponent, but he looks so unbelievably intimidating that you're just like. Like, yo, this guy's the baddest man on the planet. Ronda Rousey, too. Like, Ronda Rousey was getting up in the ufc. I mean, Holly was. Holly Holm, I think, knocked her out pretty easily. And it's like, then you see her just take out Gina Carano. Fifteen seconds. Yes. Gina's much older, hasn't fought in a long time. But there is this recency bias in us for things. And I wonder. It's like, if Kendrick not dropping anything, and he probably isn't, and this is the last thing that we've seen. Is he back on top?
Mark
Well, I think, to me, this is just what I kind of expected him to do, which is like, same with Nas and Jay Z. It's like, yeah, you lose the battle, but you win the war. And, like, I think Drake is just gonna. When it's all said and done, 20 years from now, Drake will have won the war 10 times over. The difference with Nas and Jay Z is that they're now both billionaires and friends. Yeah, I don't think Drake and Kendrick will ever be friends.
Alex
Oh, no.
Mark
I don't think they're ever gonna, like, patch it up in 20 years and be cool.
Alex
Decision to continue going at Kendrick in this. Right decision or wrong decision?
Mark
Yeah, you have to. I think if you avoid it, it's like, ah, you. You acknowledge you lost, you bowed out, and that's it.
Alex
But I like that it wasn't like, whole songs dedicated to it. It was just like, yo, this beef is forever. I'm gonna continue sunning you.
Mark
The whole album is kind of dedicated to it in a way, but it's dedicated to everyone that shows up.
Alex
Yeah.
Mark
Yeah. So it's him plus everyone.
Alex
It's not a specific diss track. It's like a little bar here, a little bar there. If it's a specific Diss track, then Kendrick might have to get back in the studio. But does he get back in the studio for a line or two? I think no. So it's almost.
Miles
I'm not going to lie, like, Drake definitely played it good. Selfishly, I wish he had one song just located. Yeah. Because I remember when even after the Jay Z NAS situation on Blueprint 2, Jay Z just had a whole song just destroying Nas. And it's like, people don't really talk about it, but I'm telling you, this was the hardest diss track of all of them.
Alex
Sure, but.
Miles
And I love that. So just as a fan of battle rap.
Mark
Yeah.
Miles
I would have liked another one.
Alex
You would have liked as a fan.
Miles
But strategically, what's been the smart play?
Alex
You don't want Kendrick to drop and then fuck up your rollout.
Miles
True.
Alex
Because if you do some crazy shit, Kendrick drops. Now we're talking about the back and forth beef again, and you just put out 45 songs and now you got to get back in the studio again. It's like you want to do just enough where you're taking shots. And he's not responding.
Mark
Which is why I think the triple album is smart. For a bunch of reasons. It's like, one, I'm acknowledging everything that's gone on in the past two years. So it's like, that's Iceman. And then it's like, I'm also gonna put songs for the women. Kind of like the Drake that, you know, that's like habiti. And then here's where I'm gonna go. And that's Maid of Honor. It's like kind of. It's more experimental. He's trying out different sounds, and it's like pushing, kind of like, here's the next wave that y' all are going to jump on. So he kind of does everything all at once. Like, here's where I'm at. Here's old me, here's the new me. And it's just flooding the plane. And on top of that, Miles pointed this out to me. Michael Jackson is the only artist to have three of his albums chart at the same time.
Guest
Top three. 1, 2, and 3. Right after he died.
Alex
Oh, wow.
Mark
Right after he dies, he has the three albums chart. He's the only artist to do it. And Drake, it seems like he's making a push with this to try to do the same thing.
Guest
And the nod with the Glove. Yeah, apparently he's the guy who bought the glove.
Alex
Yeah.
Mark
150,000 for the. For the Diamond Glove. I thought that Was kind of a steal, right?
Alex
I thought he rented it for that. I'm being 100.
Mark
No, I think he bought it.
Guest
From what I understand, it's. He bought it between.
Alex
Michael Jackson's diamond encrusted glove is only $150,000, but there's a Pokemon card that is worth 7 million. Yeah.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
Does that seem awful?
Mark
I wonder if they have a few gloves.
Miles
That's what I think. I think there's a few gloves and it's not diamonds. Probably like rhinestones or something like that.
Alex
Yeah. I mean, who cares what the stone is? If there was.
Miles
I'm pretty sure there's multiple.
Alex
There's multiple. But there's multiple Pokemon cards. That, to me, just feels so odd.
Mark
Well, if you're talking about The Pikachu illustrator PSA 10, there's only one. There's only one of those. Yeah, there's only one of those.
Miles
What?
Mark
I'm not trying to get you.
Alex
That's. That's what it is. What do you think has been in the hands of more kids? Absolute banger. You're welcome. You're welcome. You're welcome. I do great job, Chelsea.
Mark
But he dissed everyone, so obviously there's the Kendrick disses on, like, a bunch of different tracks. Damn. Who is this guy? For real? I guess a magician. 100 million streams vanished. No one's got questions talking about the Kendrick streams that all of a sudden were there. And then they got pulled down.
Miles
A little hypocritical because some of your streams disappeared as well.
Alex
That is kind of funny to do. That is kind of funny to do. It's like. It's like Nancy Pelosi and like, Trump talking to each other about rigging the stock market.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
You rigged it more.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
Okay. All right.
Mark
And Mugsy Bogues dunked for once. Even I'm a bit amazed. Kind of funny. This one was one that people specifically on black Twitter got kind of. There was discussion about it. White kids listen to you because they feel some guilt. And that's how your soul gets fulfilled. Handing out turkeys on camera inside of your hood. And then you go back to the hills. How many houses you built, how many souls did you heal off the back of your deal? So he's basically saying white kids are listening to Kendrick because they have white guilt. He's like, they listen to you because they want to be, like, an activist and a part of this whole black cultural movement and that they do it because you represent that in the space, not because they actually like the music.
Alex
I'll be honest, I never met a white person listen to Kendrick, bro.
Miles
No. You go to a Kendrick concert, it's there buying most of the tickets.
Alex
Is that right?
Miles
Yeah.
Mark
Well, that's also most of hip hop.
Miles
Yeah, most of.
Alex
But that's just a numbers game, isn't it? At the end of the day, it's like when you. When your genre is the most popular genre of music in the world and you live in a country where Black people are 12% of population and white people are like 60 or 70, like, the chances are the numbers are going to be skewed.
Miles
Young boy show, it's a bit more mixed than a Kendrick show.
Alex
The whites ain't getting. Getting after the NBA.
Miles
Young boy, they like them a bit more.
Mark
But he's calling out Kendrick's hypocrisy because he's like, he's basically trying to say, oh, Kendrick, you say you only make music for black people. You're a black artist for black people. But then your show is, you know, 80% white.
Alex
What I would say is like, that's not Kendrick's fault. Like, he can't decide who buys the
Mark
tickets, but he's just saying you're misrepresenting who you are. I'm being honest. My music's for everyone. That's why my audience is Indian kids and white kids and black kids.
Alex
That is true. I would say that, like, he's more ubiquitous. Drake is a more, like, universal artist.
Miles
Yeah. Like, but sometimes he'll frame things, trying to make them, like, disses when they aren't. Because that's a good thing.
Alex
If you're like. He's like, you just make music for black people. And then Kenny's like, yeah, yeah.
Miles
Like, when he said you rap like you're trying to free the slaves, I'm like, yeah, it's a good thing. You don't want to free the slaves.
Alex
You want them to stay there like you. Drake is half want some.
Miles
So you're like, he'll try to frame like that. I'm like, bro, look in the bear, man. That's why people keep telling him, look in the bear.
Mark
That would be a good movie. If some guy did rap and freed the slaves. That'd be a fire movie. Would you not watch that if.
Alex
If rapping freed the slaves? Yeah, keep going. Okay, that's a. That's a Miles comment.
Mark
Just say it would be a good movie. He goes to DJ Khed. That one went super viral. And in C's comments, what does Okhalid do?
Alex
What is cuz I think he thought it was just going to, like, brush past. Or maybe some PR firm told him, like, hey, it's better you don't say something, whatever. But, like, this is not going away. And now he's so late to saying anything that if he does, it will just look performative. Like, he's doing it because he's getting criticism. So what does he do? He just doesn't go outside anymore.
Miles
But then another thing. So hypocritical, because, Jewish Drake, I hear you speak out about Israel.
Mark
Well, he did sign the Creators for Peace thing.
Miles
Fuck is that?
Mark
This was like, basically a big coalition of artists that signed like a ceasefire activism plea that was very public. And he signed it like, that's the
Miles
quietest way you can say Free Palestine.
Alex
It's louder than Khaled.
Miles
I didn't even know that. I didn't even know that, Alex.
Alex
I guess it's a little bit louder than Cali. Cali can't even say it.
Miles
That's true.
Alex
That's insane. Like, yeah, I mean, Free Palestine. Is it that crazy? Like, what's the opposite of Free Palestine? Enslaved Palestine. Like, how could you not say? Like, sometimes I see people that they can't even say the words.
Miles
Yeah, I know.
Mark
You know?
Alex
And you're just like, well, what are you trying to say if you can't say the words? Like, I understand. Like, words might have different meanings, etc, but, like, you should be allowed to say the words. Don't you want everybody to feel free? Like, how could you not want anybody before Politically charged? Of course, it's. It's same as like, Crisis king.
Mark
No, that's factual. You know, that's just factual.
Miles
That was like that judge we were watching, the brilliant idiots. He's like, they were asking him direct question, like, oh, can Trump run for a third time based on the costume?
Alex
These couldn't even say.
Miles
Yeah, I know.
Alex
They couldn't even say it's uncomfort constitutional.
Mark
That is crazy. But now everyone's in Cal's comments just being like, yo, say it here to
Alex
turn off the comments. Right?
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
So what would you do if you're Khaled? What would you do? You got to join Hamas. That's the only way, right? You gotta go extra. You gotta go.
Mark
They gotta dig bigger tunnel, dog. Dude joins Hamas. He's like, hold on, hold on, bro.
Alex
There's no way he's paragliding. There's not. There's not a parachute look like Indiana Jones that rock. No, but for real, like, what does he do? What would you do if you were.
Mark
Now you gotta ride it out. I'm assuming that in his mind, because he's half Palestinian.
Miles
Full Palestinian, I think full.
Mark
Like in his mind. I'm sure people got in his ear and they're like, hey, you're a pop star. You make music for everyone. You're one of the biggest artists in the world. You're getting all this money off of making these hits. So you work with everybody. You don't need to say anything just because you're ethnically from a place. You don't got to do it. I'm sure people told them that and
Alex
they probably said, this is going to go away way.
Mark
Yeah. And they'll be like, this is all smooth out and you're gonna be fine. You can privately have your beliefs, but publicly you don't need to say anything. And I'm assuming that's what his position was. It was a political one. And now he's made enemies with people and now they're applying pressure. Drake, like, Mo Almer said the same thing in his special.
Alex
He called out Khalid too. Yeah, yeah.
Mark
And so now people are noticing, being like, bro, you're us and you're not saying anything about this. That's crazy. And there's even been videos of people that have interviewed Khaled. They're like, yo, say free Palestine. He goes, goes, peace and love to everybody.
Miles
Yeah, I know, that is great.
Alex
What I don't understand is like, what is he worried about saying it?
Miles
Maybe his partners, whatever backers are, but
Alex
like, wouldn't they understand that he would feel that way? Like, wouldn't he understand that he would want his family members over there?
Miles
Are they that understanding?
Alex
They don't have to understand their position, but they could empathize with his position.
Miles
Can they?
Alex
You, I mean, do you not?
Mark
I think it's one of those things where they're like, hey, remember that rich, you know, like Zionist billionaire that you performed at his kids bar mitzvah two years ago and he paid you crazy money to go do it? Do you want those deals to dry up? You can either make a stand and gain financially, maybe something, maybe not a ton, or you can say nothing and still be able to play both sides of the ball and make money from everyone. I'm assuming that's what happened behind the scenes.
Miles
You think he's going to keep getting weight watcher deal while he gains weight? Like that only. That only happens when you cool with a lot of people.
Alex
So he thought that like being a. We're assuming here, obviously, but he Thought that, like, his ability to be this celebrity for everyone, this, like, public figure that can have access to all these different rooms would be limited by taking a stance on this.
Mark
Cause that's what I assume.
Miles
But it's the same shit Drake does.
Alex
Interesting. You're like, drake isn't loud enough about it to call out Cal. Yeah. But I think he got pushed back for that, too.
Mark
But I think in Drake's position, he's like, I don't have to say anything. I'm Canadian.
Alex
Yeah. It's like, these aren't my people. Whereas, like, you should be. Feel compelled to talk about it because they're your people.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
Now you can feel compelled to talk about. Because you're a human being. Yep, absolutely. But, like, if something's happening in Scotland, it doesn't matter to you. Probably as much as it might matter to me.
Miles
No, it matters to me because you're my brother, bro.
Alex
Yo, man, come on, man. Thank you.
Miles
What's going on over there?
Mark
I don't give a. Yeah. What is going on over there?
Miles
Yeah, what's going on with them sheep folks?
Alex
Damn, bro. That was crazy.
Miles
You proud of that, though?
Alex
Yeah, that doesn't. You didn't mean it that way. Yeah, we both like big asses. Fair enough.
Mark
I mean, what about the political scandal? The 2026 Hollywood election?
Alex
Yeah. That was crazy.
Mark
You remember that?
Alex
That was crazy.
Miles
I. Yeah.
Mark
The Scottish National Party was facing that. That difficult election cycle.
Alex
I know, I know. It's just.
Mark
What's your take on that?
Miles
Howdy. Scandal was nuts.
Alex
That was a crazy scandal out there. And I'm like, I'm glad we got through it as a country and a people. It shows our resiliency. You know what I mean? Free Palestine. Free scholarship.
Miles
There you go.
Mark
And then he went to Rick Ross. I actually.
Alex
I like this bar.
Mark
I thought it was cool.
Alex
I mean, it was.
Mark
I was very clever. Aiden Ross was streams before Aiden Ross had ever streamed. I thought that was good.
Alex
Great bar.
Miles
Hard Bar.
Mark
He went to asap. Crazy hard. Your baby mama ain't even post a single. Damn. Where's she at?
Alex
That's.
Mark
I mean, that's a lot.
Miles
That's.
Alex
They got beef. But also, if I drop an album, you know what I mean? If I drop it out, I'm like, my wife's private on Instagram. I'm like, get it up. What are we doing over here? Like, a little bit, right?
Mark
Maybe there's a reason.
Alex
She must have posted.
Mark
She must, like, you don't want to believe it.
Alex
She must have posted that's probably an unfair. Can we.
Miles
Can we check that?
Alex
Should obviously check it. But, like, all right.
Miles
I feel like she posted him. Maybe not the song, but, like, maybe him in a Prada ad or something.
Alex
I mean, she's also a billionaire. She's like, I'm supporting enough. You know what I mean? Like, this is Rihanna we're talking about. Also, she made three of his kids. She's done a lot. Yeah, she's done a lot.
Miles
Yes.
Alex
Shout out ASAP.
Miles
But that's also ASAP's fault. He keeps shooting at Drake. Like, his last album was so many disses at Drake.
Alex
But I respect that, too.
Miles
Why?
Alex
ASAP's from New York, bro. Like, you tell me a New York dude who's. Who someone's talking about, and they're not gonna talk shit back.
Miles
Facts.
Alex
Like, I think that a lot of people, when they see him in the. No, you know what I mean? Like, they see him in the fashion world and they forget, like, this is a New York rapper and you talking about me. You're gonna get it back, like, every single time.
Miles
You completely.
Mark
Now let the record show.
Alex
Yeah.
Mark
According to Billboard from 2025. This is December from 2025. Rihanna hopped into Rocky's Instagram comment section, showing love for her man and his hard work, saying, so effing proud. Let's go, baby.
Alex
That's. That's not a post.
Miles
It's not enough.
Alex
Okay. It's not enough.
Mark
It's a good comment. It's a nice, supportive comment.
Alex
It is a nice, supportive comment.
Mark
Maybe there was more.
Miles
Couldn't even hit the reshare or something.
Mark
Maybe there was more.
Alex
This is New Yorkers. The Knicks is in the playoffs.
Miles
Unity. Right now. Iceman season. Right now.
Alex
Iceman season happens after the NBA Finals. Shout out asap. All right. Right.
Mark
Took a little shot at J. Cole.
Alex
I thought that was light. Yeah, actually, I thought that was light. Unless there's another way to interpret it. Say the line.
Mark
So there's a couple. He says, me, I stood 10 TE's and accepted the mission. Cuz I'd much rather be caught in submission. How can you press the ignition and let some memories of the past affect your decision?
Alex
N. Say the other one about engaged. The married rapper line.
Mark
Oh, yeah, I gotta pull that one up.
Alex
I could have fell back like the married rapper, but we engaged. Is the line. When he says it, it kind of sounds like he said, but we ain't gay. Oh, that's what I thought. The little double entendre. Now, but this could be like that Dumb rap where you, like, find, like, 20 meetings to something that doesn't.
Miles
But the couple bars after that, he does. T. Is still popping shots at him, though.
Mark
Yeah. Have you seen the kid?
Alex
This is.
Mark
This guy's funny.
Miles
He definitely went lighter on J. Cole than I thought he was going.
Alex
Yeah, he was delicate with him.
Mark
We can't play the audio, but he does. He does. Explaining Drake lyrics.
Alex
Oh, yeah. To his girl. This was funny. This is funny. Do you get that? No.
Mark
What does that mean? He's down to put bills on their face. Like money for their head. Because he's down to, like, hire someone to kill.
Alex
Oh, okay. But then also bills in their face. Like, flexing on them. Bills in their face. Okay. But also, like a duck bill.
Mark
Yeah. Because they're ducking Drake.
Alex
Like, they're ducking him.
Mark
But the name for a male duck is a Drake. No.
Alex
Yes. So they're ducking Drake. Okay. And Kendrick's last name is Ducksworth. No way. So this whole song is dissing Kendrick. Yeah. Ducking Drake.
Mark
That is exactly.
Alex
Goes even further. Because the Buffalo Bills. Yeah.
Mark
Their rivals are the Patriots. Yeah.
Alex
And their quarterback is Drake. So they're ducking Dre. Isn't that insane?
Mark
This is how we want women to react to everything we say. I love that.
Alex
Right?
Mark
Made me laugh.
Alex
You realize how much your wife don't care about you once you have kids and they run to see you when you come home? You know what I mean, Daddy? She's, like, full on Sprint. My wife is still cleaning dishes or something like, hey, babe, how you doing?
Mark
Anyway, okay, we got a bunch more. I mean, he goes to Jay Z.
Miles
Wait, but before we move on for that, why do you think he went light at Cole?
Alex
Because he knows Cole's not going to respond.
Mark
I think he also has a lot of love for Cole still. Yeah, but I think he had to call it out. Like, yo, that was weak.
Alex
It's also bullying if you go at cold. Like, going at someone who's going to engage in a beef with you. Oh, that's funny. No, I meant.
Miles
I know.
Alex
I'm not trying to dis Cole. I'm saying, like, Cole has already said, I'm not going to beef with anybody. So you're basically calling him out for not supporting you. But he's not be. You know what I mean? He's.
Mark
I get it.
Miles
But he started this whole. You could. Damn that. Blame Cole for having all the Drake went through.
Alex
That's why he called him gay.
Mark
Or engaged. Or engaged.
Alex
Yeah.
Miles
But I don't know I think it should have been more bars. And then he said something about, like, he didn't pick up.
Alex
Up.
Miles
He tried to call him, or he didn't call him back or something like that.
Alex
I didn't hear that. All right, give me some real heat. Give me some. Like.
Mark
Well, the Lucy and Grain ones is.
Alex
Who is Lucy and Grange again? He's the head of Universal.
Mark
Head of Universal. Okay, so there's a couple bars in here that are interesting. So one that's obviously says, I'm fighting the man, not suing a rapper. You boys aren't listening. So he's talking about how he's fighting the label that he's in this deal with. And he has a bunch of lines. Adam, he says, says me and Lucien both got Jewish ties. But still. But I'll still call the cap on his head like. Like, Jewish rabbis. And then he has this one. Grange arranged an evil plan to get the masses to point their fingers at me and blame for the same things. They had MJ framed. The difference with me is that I've maintained my black complexion. I'm ready to black out on anyone trying to white out my name.
Alex
So he's.
Mark
He's a legend.
Alex
He's a legend that Grange is doing some dirty work.
Mark
Work.
Miles
Yeah, but he's been saying it, right? Yeah, but I like that. And then I still don't like the lawsuit situation.
Mark
Oh, well, yeah, yeah, like. But I kind of get it a little bit.
Miles
But this is another example of you pointing something out that you're trying to reframe it, but it's still corny. You're doing, like.
Alex
Yeah, so what do you do in that situation? Like, if you're trying to sue the label because you think the label is doing nefarious, but do you not do it because everybody's getting interpreted as suing Kendrick. That is how we all interpreted it.
Miles
Cut your losses and move on. Like, he's gonna appeal and keep this thing dragging out. But I heard one theory online is, like, hey, jamming them up with litigation. Now he's using this three album to get off his deal, and now they try to hold him on the deal. It could look like prejudice because he filed the lawsuit. Like, he might be using this as a strategic play to get out of his deal. I don't know. There's so many theories online about whether or not he's even still in his deal. Did he satisfy his contract?
Alex
Yeah, I saw a couple of those theories. And that some private equity company is going to give him some crazy billion
Miles
or some shit like that. If that happens to.
Alex
That's crazy.
Mark
Crazy, right?
Alex
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Miles
Zootopia 2 has come home to Disney.
Alex
Let's go get ready for a new case. We're gonna crack this case and prove we're the greatest partners of all time.
Mark
New friends, you are Gary Destiny.
Alex
And your last name Destiny. Dream Team Habitats. Zootopia has a secret reptile population. You can watch the record breaking phenomenon at home. You're clearly working it. Zootopia 2 now available on Disney Plus.
Miles
Rated PG.
Mark
But then there's also a line where he says y' all about to make me Richie like Lionel for real. And that's the truth. Now people have made a stretch here, but it's kind of funny. Lucien Grange has a son named Elliot. Elliot is married to Sophia Richie, Lionel Richie's daughter. So Lionel Richie is Lucien Grange's daughter in law. And he also makes another line where he's like I'm the golden goose causing problems in Lucien's house. And so he's making this line like y' all gonna make me rich like Lionel. So there's like sub illusions that he's gonna be like Lionel and get rich off of Lucy and Grange. And the way that that Sophia Richie got rich from being affiliated with the Grange family. And some people have read into it to say that he's how somehow some way had like a Trist with Ms. Richie. Now this is a crazy allegation that people have tried to stretch. I don't think it's true personally, but people have tried to make the connection. That would be dirty work if that's the case. I don't think it's true. But that's what people are speculating on. The interwebs.
Alex
Can't put a box by him though. Can't put a box behind.
Mark
Yeah, boys don't work.
Miles
Yeah, he got that rep. So now if you just throw that
Alex
out there, it's like a little breadcrumb. Yeah.
Mark
He goes on to say in reference to Jay Z. People assume it's Jay Z. I mean he has Lines about not taking the. He's like, I won't take the dinner. Give me 500, 000. I can't learn anything from any of you. Damn, y' all was really island hopping back then. Now y' all got your names redacted, and it seems like he's referencing Push
Alex
A, T and J.
Mark
Push T&JZ getting their names redacted.
Alex
But he could just be. He could just be referencing. That's a beautiful one where it's like, if you take offense to it, it exposes more about you than it does the line. Because he could just be talking about the dudes on the Epstein files. Yeah. You know you guys were island hopping. Now you got your names redacted, right?
Miles
Yeah, but that's a reach, that.
Alex
But if. If James.
Miles
Corniest bar in the album.
Alex
Good human beings aren't biased, man. It's a good thing we don't have emotional connections to artists and defend them.
Mark
Nope.
Alex
Whenever we can. Ah, man.
Mark
It goes to DJ Mustard, Pharrell, Pusha T, LeBron, DeMar DeRozan, the Dr. Dre one I thought was great.
Alex
Why are you coming to Dre?
Mark
Man, the bar is great.
Alex
What's the bar?
Mark
If Drake took out the ak, maybe he'd be going to jail just based off the name that it spells what they say they just smelled. I heard they got a special place in hell for N words as joking about the when they did it themselves.
Miles
Break this down.
Mark
So if Drake took out the ak, I said I'm sounding like the dude Drake.
Alex
Yeah, I know. Oh, my God. If Drake took out the ak, it spells Drake.
Mark
Okay, so you take the AK out of Drake is Dre, and he's saying there's a special place in hell for people joking about the evil when they did it themselves. So he's implying again, allegedly.
Alex
I have nothing to do with this. Dre's joking about out being with underage girls. He's like Dr. Dre.
Mark
And there's an allegation Dre was dating like a 15 or 16 year old when he was like 25 or something. He's calling back to that, saying you're clowning me for being in underage girls. You were on the record in a relationship, according to Drake.
Miles
I didn't know about that. I know about Dre maybe getting a little handsy back in the day, but I didn't hear about.
Alex
What do you mean by that?
Miles
I don't know. These people are coming it up.
Alex
What should they Google?
Miles
Dr. Dre and Hands.
Alex
I said.
Miles
I said but damn. Yeah, yeah.
Mark
But a clever bar nonetheless.
Alex
Absolutely.
Miles
We got to talk about this Braun situation, bro.
Alex
So what do you think? I mean, like, to me, that's the most. I always thought that was the most foul. And again, like, we're in entertainment, and maybe that's something that, like, you got to understand. Like, I don't know what Bron stands to gain from these things. He's already the top of the top. But, like, like, in this game, there are people incredibly opportunistic, and they will switch up on things, and people who have helped them if they see that there's a better opportunity or that a person could be pulling them down. So they make these moves strategically. And it's like, there's not the same loyalty you would expect amongst friends in the business. But, like, I don't know, like, Drake was going to his kids basketball games, bro. Like, that's. If I go to your kids basketball game.
Mark
He had him tattooed. Chewed on him, right?
Miles
Yeah. Which is a little.
Alex
That's a little weird.
Miles
Yeah, it's a little weird.
Alex
That's a little weird.
Miles
But still, that's weird. You trying to turn a weird thing into a good thing.
Alex
That is a weird. That is a weird thing.
Mark
It's LeBron, dude.
Miles
So if I tattoo you on me right now, you're not gonna find that weird?
Mark
I'm not LeBron. If that was LeBron, though, I'd be like, yeah, damn right it's LeBron, dude. And the bar is actually pretty good. I thought I shouldn't even be shocked to see you in that arena because you always made your career off switching teams. Teams up.
Miles
Yeah, I was great.
Mark
I thought it was clever, but I don't know, there's. And then he goes to Joe Budden. That was a funny one.
Alex
What do you say?
Mark
I mean, but it's funny to me, their whole beef is funny because it seems like they just go back and forth all the time.
Alex
I feel like they both low key love each other.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
I'm saying, like, I feel like. I don't know, like, I think we gotta see, like, one day, 20 years from now, DMS where they're like. They're kind of just both like, nah, that was a good point you made about me. Or. No, that was a good bar.
Mark
Because I think the whole beef is predicated on them being with the same girls.
Alex
Oh, I thought it was. I thought it was like some rapity. Rap shit. Like, oh, maybe, I don't know, like a love of the game. And, like, I think Drake wants validation From Joe because he sees him as somebody who's like a connoisseur of music. And I think Joe sees Drake as like the guy who's reached the mountaintop and also is nice at rapping. He's not just some pop star. When the line. You think it's just about girls.
Mark
Yeah, I mean, this is what the line is.
Alex
That's some loser, bro. You guys are 50 years old. Like, come on.
Miles
Actually, I put it on Drake because like, he would get with some of Joe's exes and then just like flaunt it like that. That's like Drake's motive is like, hey, I'm gonna clown you by showing I fuck one of your girls. And it's like, it's corny. And that's why Button felt that it was corny. And that's why they've been beefing all the time. They both respect each other's pen. So that's why it's like, yeah, it's mutual respect, but it's also mutual pain.
Alex
It's like when someone that you actually respect says something about you. It hurts more than someone that you don't give a about.
Mark
I mean, that's what the line says. Who knows which one of his bubble shaped things. I must have ushered through the double gates. Showing her the time of her life while broski having stomach aches, Hearing about the good times at lovers lake and send her back to you while you sleepwalking naked in another state.
Miles
That was funny. That was funny.
Mark
And apparently it was.
Miles
Drake is funny
Alex
as a comedian. There are bars in here that you really do appreciate. Yeah, yeah.
Mark
But yeah, it's just. I don't know. There's a funny line. Apparently I didn't know this, but that he had a. He told a story about sleepwalking one time.
Alex
They thinking, I think he got arrested.
Mark
Is that what it was?
Alex
Yeah.
Mark
I wasn't familiar with it.
Miles
He was like sleepwalking. I think he like knocked on his neighbor's dog.
Alex
No way.
Mark
Yeah, that happens. But it's sleepwalking up. But no, I, I thought, I thought that whole project was fire. I like that he dropped all three. I like that it's in the charts. And I think people are like, oh yeah, this is awesome. We get to witness gray and stop glazing. I am glazing.
Miles
The whole project's not fire. It's a good project.
Alex
You haven't even listened to it.
Miles
That's why Iceman I listened to a few times.
Alex
And then. You haven't even listened to the Other ones. So how you gonna say the whole project if you haven't even listened to it all?
Miles
The Iceman Ain't Fire, like Iceman. I would say 2/3 of it is good.
Alex
That's phenomenal for an album.
Miles
Yes, but then you have two more albums. The Habib Teacher is just not for me.
Alex
You listen to it already?
Miles
Yeah, like I. I listen to like 15 seconds of each song just to try to get through it so I can have something to bring to today. I hate the that out. Like I just don't like the slow singing. It's just not for me. That's for other people. The other one, I think that's actually my favorite of all of them because it's just like fun songs.
Alex
Made of Honor.
Miles
Yeah. While you're just like driving in the car. And I think a lot more of those are going to be playing in clubs and going to be playing the summertime and stuff. Like Iceman was just like, hey, I'm getting my bars.
Alex
I got bars. I'm nice at this. And I choose to do this other stuff where I sing. That's a choice. I don't gotta it do do it. I could give you all bars if
Mark
I want, but I think the Made of Honor tracks are the ones that are going to last more years.
Alex
Yeah, that's what we're going to be listening to this summer probably.
Mark
And then obviously we can't play the song. But this was. This was kind of fun.
Alex
Which one is this?
Mark
You know, is this the music video?
Alex
Yeah. Which one?
Mark
This is the music video for Dust.
Alex
Oh, the boy.
Mark
And they got young. The young boy. Bull as a cop.
Alex
Oh yeah, Shane.
Mark
I mean how, how Fire though.
Alex
No, this is fire. And then his kids in it.
Mark
Yeah. He steals a cop car. He's riding around Toronto and they got
Alex
Shane in the back. Yeah. Yeah. I mean just awesome. So Derek Poston went up with Shane when they went and did this. And Derek is like the biggest Drake fan. Yeah. Like he thinks that. He thinks he's the. The second greatest artist in history, I think. Yeah. And the first is like J.K. rowling and then Champagne Poppy.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
Yeah.
Miles
Wow.
Alex
Yeah.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
So this was like we were with Derek this weekend in Salt Lake and like the first thing he said when he sat down, just like, tell me how many Drake stories you want. It was. Yeah.
Mark
Oh yeah.
Miles
Can you share anything? Anything?
Alex
Of course not.
Mark
No, of course not. Sworn secrecy.
Alex
Sworn of secrecy.
Mark
But it just.
Alex
Cool.
Mark
It was just cool, Shane, that Shane gets this opportunity to go up to Toronto to Do this, do this. And he's like, I'm bringing Derek. Yeah, like Derek is going to appreciate this more than anyone I know.
Miles
That's awesome.
Mark
Which is so cool.
Miles
I didn't see this full video. Like is Drake in the video at all? I'm sure he was on set while they were making it, but I think
Mark
he came on set at the end.
Miles
Oh, okay.
Mark
But I don't think he's in the video.
Miles
Got it.
Alex
It's crazy. They put out a video for all the songs.
Miles
Yeah, yeah, like, but then it's easy if he's not even in the video then sure. But still hire people to do all this stuff.
Alex
Yeah, but still to do that. That like that's a big undertaking to do a music video for one song to do. Is it every song on all three albums or just every song on Iceman?
Mark
I think just Iceman, but I don't
Alex
know still, that's crazy.
Mark
And then the White House got involved. Like apparently Trump posted an edit some Iceman.
Miles
I'm sure he hates this.
Mark
He put out the Iceman, but it's nice.
Miles
I'm sure he hates this.
Alex
Come on, bro,
Mark
they're rounding up Canadians right now. Come on, dude, you can't be deported Canadians to Iceman.
Alex
And then there was a, there was
Mark
another one like I think like just the White House posted like yeah, yeah. Iced out white from the official White House.
Alex
No, no.
Miles
You could tell it's just insanity. 25 year old Drake fan that's running his account.
Mark
Account kind of a fun.
Miles
Like from all the post. Like now you just know it's just some 20 something year old 100.
Guest
Yeah, no, I think it's a team. And then there's just one guy that's like, yeah, this is what's hot right now. Post it.
Alex
I think you might be overestimating.
Miles
Yeah, I know.
Alex
I don't think they're not organized. I think it's One kid who's 19 years old just sitting in the White House all day scrolling Instagram.
Miles
Because if it was a team, they wouldn't have let all this slip. That did slip it.
Mark
Fair.
Guest
I don't mean a team of like highly trained professional. I think it's a bunch of 19 year olds that are all in different. Different things. Maybe just sending to the main guy.
Alex
Yeah, could be.
Mark
Anyway, I think people have gotten all of our rap takes for the day.
Alex
Yeah.
Mark
Any final thoughts?
Alex
Drake's back, man.
Guest
Also, Al's a hater.
Miles
I gave it up to him.
Mark
I said it's a great film.
Guest
I'm with Drake Glazer and you said you listen to the first 15 seconds
Miles
of the Big T shirt.
Guest
That's 7% of the album, bro. You made a.
Miles
It almost put me to sleep.
Guest
An admonishment at 7%.
Miles
You like the slow one?
Guest
I liked it all. Listen, I a bunch of flights this weekend and just had a great time flying and listening.
Miles
Yeah, I mean, it's not for everybody. At least I gave it up.
Alex
I like the ice fashion and I
Miles
like the other one.
Alex
What else we got?
Mark
Mark Miles. Great contribution. And speaking of Miles, Chud the Builder got arrested.
Alex
What the.
Mark
What it. It's a good segue.
Miles
That's a perfect segue.
Mark
You guys have similar mustaches.
Alex
So Chud the builder.
Miles
This guy.
Mark
So this guy Chud the Builder was going viral. If you haven't seen it by Chad
Alex
the builder saw the Rosa. Kevin Hart was like, hold my beer. Let me show you all how to be racist. Racist.
Mark
What.
Alex
What is this guy's mo.
Mark
This is. He's a streamer. I'll. I can play some of the clips.
Alex
I don't even know.
Miles
I thought you was about to play some clips.
Mark
I don't even know what we can play. If this is going to get us demonetized. We might have to bleep something of this. But basically, he. From my understanding, I'm not a. I'm not an avid sh the Builder follower. I've only kind of heard about him since the story.
Miles
Let's not even play a clip.
Mark
He will go around and I like this basically, like, antagonize black people is what it seems like. Maybe I'm not giving a charitable read. You can correct me if I'm wrong. But he'll go around and be like, y' all believe in free speech? And then black people, like, yeah. And he's like, so it's cool if white people say the N word and then he'll just say it hard. R. Yeah. And then they get in a confrontation and then if they try to fight him, he'll mace them. And then if it goes any further than that, he also has a gun on him. And then he's basically like, yo, free speech. You know, we live in America. You guys are Americans. And that's the whole stream.
Alex
So we've reached the end of the Internet. Is this the logical conclusion? If you game out the Internet and you just let people do whatever the fuck they want, they'll do anything to get attention, and then this is the worst possible thing that you can do to get attention.
Miles
Attention Interesting. Oh, that's your take on it?
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
I, I just assume that this is like the logical conclusion to like if you don't have. This is the difference between like attention and like art. Let's just call it, I mean. And we can be very loose with art. I think there are streamers that do things that are artistic. Like they're choosing to do more than just like whatever is the most, you know, salacious thing you could possibly say. Like I think you saw Kai do a lot when he's building out these sets.
Mark
Like there's a bunch, I would even say speaking speed.
Alex
Speed. Absolutely.
Mark
Going around all these places, like creating these moments in all these like countries that are maybe more obscure.
Alex
Absolutely. 100. I would even say like I've been watching non stop clips of, you know, Adrian Broner and Dean the Great. I don't know if you've been seeing them, but they, you know, who ain't Adrian Broner, of course. And then there's a streamer Dean the Great, who I think also had like a, maybe a boxing career. Anyway, they've been hanging out and like I just see clips online line. But like they're just hilarious together. They're making fun of each other. They're making fun like they're scaring the hoes. Like it's just like Adrian Broner. I mean I really hope that he does not have a drinking problem. Like it looks like he does in the streams. But he is an all time hilarious individual. He was hilarious during press conferences when he was a champion. He's still hilarious. Anyway, I'm not saying this is like high art, but there is like a goal of intended humor for it and it looks fun but like if you're not capable of generating attention based on some form of skill, you'll do it based on pure shock. And this is the worst of the worst.
Miles
Ah, so you don't feel chud the builder is a civil rights activist. As the people online are saying. Free. Free speech, you know, hyperpop opponent.
Alex
Are you? I mean like what's the, what are the limits to free speech in terms of like antagonistic behavior?
Mark
Well, that's my issue with this. Like free speech is a. I think we've talked about this before, but it's like a legal precedent that the government can't put you in prison for something that you say.
Alex
Right.
Mark
So it's not illegal to say the N word to a group of black people.
Alex
Yes.
Mark
You know, like, like maybe in a certain circumstance potentially it could be depending on like where you're at and, like, the nature of it. But, like, you can say the word and not get arrested.
Alex
Exactly.
Mark
That is what freedom of speech is.
Alex
Yes.
Mark
But to me, this is like, hey, I can disrespect you and then you aren't going to do anything about it.
Alex
Right.
Mark
Because you believe in freedom of speech.
Alex
Yeah. Which is bullshit.
Mark
It's like, nah, like, you don't have to say the N word to him. You could just go up to any group of dudes and be like, y' all are. And they would try to fight you.
Alex
And you would.
Mark
And you wouldn't be like, oh, you
Alex
guys don't believe in free speech.
Mark
It's like, no, you're disrespecting me. And now there's going to be consequences for disrespect.
Alex
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Mark
People would react.
Alex
Yeah. I don't even know if we have freedom. I mean, we do have, I imagine, freedom to antagonize, but I don't know if anybody is, like, fighting for it. And that's what this feels more like. Freedom to disrespect, freedom to antagonize, freedom to, like, make people feel incredible amounts of discomfort. And, like, if he walked up to them, he was having a discussion about freedom of speech. Yeah. Right. Where he was like, well, what about this word? And how would you feel about. About people saying that word? And then some people saying, like, I hate that word. But, like, I understand. You shouldn't be arrested for saying it. I don't think he gets any pushback. Right. They're having a discussion, wouldn't get any clicks or streams. And the goal is not freedom of speech. The goal is attention. And a person who just doesn't have the ability to get attention through any other means besides the lowest common denominator.
Miles
It's hard for me to check my bias on this. Like, I really despise this guy and people like this. And what bothers me so much is that he just, like, came out of nowhere and now everybody knows his name. And they're probably using all the bot farms and the clippers to make him bigger. And this is just going to motivate more people to do this type of action. Cause, like, hey, this is the quickest way to get on now.
Alex
But I wonder if it does. Like, I wonder if seeing, you know, he's got.
Miles
I already see it happening. More people like, okay, it's up. We can just say n where we can just do whatever. It's a slow roll with people like Nick Fuentes. Cause he says it all the time on his stream, and now it leads to this. And I really hope. The only thing I dislike about this is that he shot himself and missed.
Alex
Well, he did hit himself, right?
Miles
Yeah, he missed.
Alex
He missed. Yeah.
Miles
That's the only bad thing about this movie.
Alex
Right, Right.
Mark
Which, yeah, I mean, this is pedantic, but like, white dudes saying the N word is more popular now on Twitter, but he's directly saying it to black people, which is like another level of antagonism and disrespect because you can't get
Alex
enough attention just saying it.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
Now it's. Now we're desensitized to white boys just saying it. Right. Like, you see all the streamers kind of like, not all, but a lot of these streamers just throwing it out there. So now since we're desensitized to that, what's the next iteration of it? How much crazier can I get so I can get the attention I'm attracted?
Miles
First, it was a Kendrick concert. It was Nick Fuente.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
Kendrick opened the door. Kendrick concert walked so Nick Fuentes could run.
Mark
So he gets in this thing. It's difficult to know exactly what happened, but I think the context is kind of clear. So, like, he's outside of a courthouse in Tennessee. He has a confrontation with a black dude who happens to be a veteran. And it appears that this guy takes his gun out before the altercation takes place, and then he shoots him and then also grazes himself, himself in the confrontation. And he's claiming that he acted in self defense. And now he's currently being charged with attempted murder, employing a firearm during a dangerous felony, aggravated assault, reckless endangerment with a deadly weapon, and his bail is set at 1.25 million.
Alex
Can you act in self defense if your goal is to antagonize?
Miles
I. I don't believe so, but.
Alex
And that's why the judge was like, we're setting the bail super high. And we didn't think that you.
Miles
The only problem is, I don't know if he started this one. That's what both sides are claiming. They're claiming that the black guy came
Mark
out of nowhere because now he's popular enough on the Internet that people see him. And so some of his streams, you'll see him walking around, people are just like, yo, fuck you. And then he immediately fires back with the N word or some other type of racial slur.
Alex
There's an interesting thing going on where it's like, we pretend that, like, words don't have meaning. Right. Like they don't hold meaning outside of, like, the dictionary definition of what they are. And, like, I saw an interesting debate, or at least a clip of the debate, so I'm not giving full context, but it was between ACTS and sneo, and I think SNEO was taking the position of like, it's just a word and people should be able to say the word. And then A was like, all right, we're going to say something about Allah.
Miles
Shout out. Shout out to A. He cooked him on that.
Alex
And it was like. It was a great point. Because what. What he was presenting is like, hey, that word means more to you. It's not just a sound. It has a meaning, and you will not use it in a negative way, which I think most people understand. They're like, this means so much to you, and we're not going to disgrace that person. And there are people that do do it, and they do try to disgrace it, and they know what they're doing when they're doing it. Right. But, like, you can't sit here and be like, that word has no meaning. It's just a sound. And then when there's something important to you and someone tries to disgrace it or ask you to do it, you refuse to do it. So now you acknowledge that these words do have different meaning. And to black people, this word means a lot, especially when non black people say it.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
So it might not mean anything to you, but if. Just like Allah might not mean anything to you, but it means to somebody else. And you might have to deal with that response.
Mark
Yeah, yeah.
Alex
Should you be able.
Miles
In my group chat, when I said. I mean, in my DMs, when I said something on this pod that they
Alex
didn't like, well, but. But now, should the government be able to punish you if you say that in America, where there's freedom of speech. No. Like, should you be able to speak negatively or should you be able to see these. Say these. These words according to the government rules of freedom of speech? Yes. They shouldn't put you in jail for that. But that doesn't mean that someone can't be pissed off by it. It's like what Charlamagne says all the time. It's like, you have the right to. You have freedom of speech. You are free to say whatever you want, but you're not freedom from the repercussions that another person might have. Like, you have the right to say whatever you want about my kids. I'm gonna react away if you're talking crazy about my kids. Like, yes, my kids just have names and they're just sounds or whatever, but it's like they have a very different meaning to me. And you saying these things. Yeah. So.
Mark
And people wouldn't be like, oh, you're so emotional for reacting that way.
Alex
It's like, yeah, I'm emotional. And people get emotional about certain things.
Guest
Yeah.
Alex
You know, whether or not the government should be able to restrict your ability to talk about my kids, I would say like, no, you have the legal right to do it, but then I'm going to react emotionally about it, I'm sure.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
And you have to decide if that's worth it to you.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
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Alex
Did you raise that much?
Mark
Yeah, I don't think it was that much. Look at it.
Miles
Right now it's. Oh, no, I'm sorry. Sorry.
Alex
Maybe I thought it was like 90,000 or something.
Miles
No, no, no. He hit enough to get the bond. The bond was 1.2 mil, but you have to hit 10% of that so you can pay the bail bond.
Mark
Yeah, I think he raised 200,000.
Miles
200,000. But even that. Imagine that is that many people willing to support this guy who's doing obviously racist behavior. And then you try to tell black people that, oh, racism's done, get over it. Like that shit is. It just sucks to know that.
Alex
Yeah, but that exists. That there are people out there that. Yeah, yeah. That they. I don't even know what you're supporting right there. Like, you want to be able to say the N word to black people. Is that what the people are supporting? Like, what is the they report?
Miles
They're supporting his actions. All the shit that he does. They're supporting his actions. They want him free. They want him back on the street to be able to conduct himself that way.
Mark
I mean, he calls himself like a free speech warrior. That's how he. That's how he frames him. Himself. And I think that the most charitable interpretation. Of course, I think there's a massive contingent of people that are just racist and don't like black people and are willing to support this. But I. I wonder if the most charitable interpretation is like. Because I've heard people even kind of like, sort of flirt this on X, where they're like, white people get called emotional all the time, but we say one word about black people and everyone. And now that you're trying to fight, and that's like, what they'll try to say, and they're like, this guy's just pushing the limits of free speech, and he's illustrating that you are allowed to say things and you don't have to react. React negatively. And I don't think that's a great defense because it's like, no, if you disrespect someone, they can check you. And that's like, very reasonable in the context, in the setting you gave, like, with your kids. Like, yeah, you disrespect someone, you might get slapped.
Alex
Yeah. We're not robots. This is not chat cbt. We're like, emotional beings. And, like, sometimes we'll have irrational responses to things that we're very emotional about. You know what I mean? Like, it's about to get very irrational. In New York in the next week, we're in the Eastern Conference finals. It's gonna be. If you want to talk about irrational behavior from people who are saying, go outside of Madison Square Garden after a Knicks victory or a Knicks loss, and you will see how emotional we will get about this team that we care about. Have we met any of these people on this team? No. Do we have any connectivity to the people on the team? No. But this means a lot to us, and we're gonna go fucking crazy. There are gonna be guys right outside MSG saying they'll suck dick for a Knicks championship, and they're gonna say on film, and it's gonna be posted by sidetalk. And then they believe it.
Miles
They got to be from Jersey, but I still
Alex
recognize the love.
Miles
But n. He's not a New Yorker.
Mark
You know what I'm saying?
Alex
But, yeah, it's like, we get emotional about things. That's why I always say, like, even with jokes is like, you can't be upset at someone's reaction. Like, we should be able to say jokes. But if people are upset at the joke, then you have to understand that they're upset at the joke. And in. In this circumstance, the huge difference, I would say, is that we are not saying it to the person specifically to irritate, antagonize, and hurt their feelings. That is not the goal of the joke. The goal of the joke is humor for everybody at that show to laugh. But if somebody doesn't find it funny, you got to let them not find it funny. And, like, when the comics do the whole thing where they're, like, trying to bully them into a specific reaction, it's like, that's just not how comedy works.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
You don't bully someone until after.
Mark
Yeah. Now, if someone, like, heckles and tries to ruin the show, that's where I'm like, now you're doing the wrong thing.
Alex
Now you've made me emotional, and I get to react emotionally.
Mark
You say a joke to someone, and you're at a show, someone doesn't respond well, and they just privately leave.
Alex
That is the best. You reward that behavior. Yeah. You reward. Or if they're just not laughing, whatever, that you reward that behavior. Because what they're not doing is making about themselves. They're just going, I'm not going to interrupt the show. Other people are liking this. I don't like it.
Mark
Not for me.
Alex
It's not for me. But that's fine. Yeah. I, like, applaud that.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
If you're stopping the show and trying to do all this, it's like what you're doing is you're making this moment more about you. Than all these other people that paid a lot of money to go see a show, got a babysitter, came out that night. You're ruining their issue for something that you feel.
Mark
You make a joke about cancer and it's like, oh, this person in the front row just lost someone to cancer two days ago.
Alex
Why are they going to be laughing?
Mark
They're going to react emotionally and then they leave and it's like, yeah, I didn't mean to do that to you. But if it hit you in a weird way, like I totally get it
Alex
and it was not my intention to hurt your feelings.
Mark
Yeah. And if it hits you in a weird way, I understand. You can just step out.
Alex
It's his intention to make people feel uncomfortable and that's why he carries a gun.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
Comics aren't carrying a gun on stage. Right. Because it's not possible. But you know what I mean, like, cuz the intention is pure.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
Right. The intention. And also like, you know, usually going to a show more or less the type of comedy that you're going to get.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
You know, but if you got to carry pepper spray and a gun, you're probably doing, you know, that people are going to react poorly to and that poor reaction is exactly what you want.
Miles
So I'm following this case because. Oh man, if he beats this, if he gets off, like this is going to be bad. Yeah.
Alex
Yeah.
Mark
Apparently there is a, a phone call that got out from prison of him pleading allegedly. I don't know if this is AI. I don't think that it is. But pleading to Aiden Ross to post bail and that he's willing to fight.
Alex
Does that mean this is a 40 second clip?
Mark
This is what he says.
Alex
Dalton Ch.
Mark
If you can get me out, help with the bond.
Alex
I cannot access my funds until I
Mark
get out of here because no one
Alex
has access to any of my gifts
Mark
and go or my crypto wallets, etc.
Alex
I have to get out of here
Mark
so that I can get verification processes to get into all of these funds.
Alex
I will fight for free.
Mark
If you can help me out to
Alex
post bail, I will fight for free. I'll fight on his boxing brand risk. I need somebody with big money who
Mark
can throw down who can support me. And Aiden has publicly rejected the request to pay the, the bond.
Alex
I mean smart fight. Fight. Francis and Ganu, I don't think anybody would object to you posting bond for that. Right.
Mark
I mean there's already been fighters that have called him out.
Miles
Still don't. It's still don't pose his bot.
Alex
There's been a few.
Mark
There's been a few fighters that have called him out that are like, y', all, I'll. I'll fight you. Like, let's. We can put the money up. I'll put up this amount of money.
Alex
Money.
Mark
If you win, you can get it. And if you. I don't even want money from you. Like, let's just go fight. I've seen a few different fighters put that up.
Alex
I mean, don't even. Don't even give more attention.
Miles
Don't even want a few of those lifers in jail to just have their way with his.
Alex
Oh, there's gonna be.
Mark
That's.
Miles
That's what.
Mark
Now people have also found these images, and they're suggesting that this is him. I haven't confirmed that it's him.
Alex
Oh, no.
Mark
But people suggesting that maybe he did have some type of alternate life online. Allegedly.
Alex
Oh, wow.
Miles
Oh, just a troubled soul.
Mark
But yeah, that's that one. Anyway, more feelings, no facts.
Alex
Let's do it. Okay.
Mark
That guy, bro. I mean, in streamer news, do you see Clav get mogged by the judge?
Miles
No.
Mark
This is very funny. People just, like, pointed this out, but basically, people are, like, at his hearing, it seems like everyone that's surrounding Clavicular is hot. And people are like, people, like, they just found, like, the hottest judge they
Alex
can get firing a gun in the
Mark
Evergreen Blades during a live stream.
Alex
They have now pleaded no contest to the charges. Andrew Morales, known online as Cuban Tarzan, and Braden Peters and goes by Clavicular, were each charged with unlawful discharge.
Mark
And people are like, look at this guy.
Miles
Peace, bang, bro.
Alex
Peace.
Miles
Look like he did a little jaw breaking, this guy.
Mark
The judges and people pointed out, like, he did an interview. I forget with which news agency. But, like, the guy that interviewed him was handsome. Like, everyone that's around Clavicular is handsome. And they're like, oh, they're just pulling out hot people to, like, check him like that. That's what everyone's saying. They're like, they check him in. Like, if you're gonna get a judge, you need to have the hottest judge, because according to his own bylaws, being hot is the only thing that matters. So if you bring the hottest person out, then he's just gonna be, like,
Alex
guilty
Mark
kind of funny. Did you see the. The Cars for Kids thing?
Alex
Dude, this is the funniest shit in the entire world. You know Cars for Kids.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
Did you hear this story?
Miles
I did, but I heard this was. It's been a thing for a minute. I'm surprised it's popping up now, but
Alex
we just found out about it.
Miles
Yeah.
Mark
New York Times just ran a story that says judge bars cars from broadcasting misleading ads in California. For context, can you explain what cars?
Alex
1-877-Cars for Kids. 1-877-Cars For Kids. Everybody's 177 cars for kids. I think send your kid to Tel Aviv. I thought that was the end of the song. We just never got to the end of the song.
Mark
I think it was specifically a northeast thing because I don't really remember in Florida.
Miles
Oh really?
Mark
Yeah, this was, I think it was up here.
Alex
There's a few jingles we remember number Seleno and Barnes Injury Attorneys. 1-800-888-88888. I think that was a lot more eggs than needed.
Mark
Yeah. What does that do with Israel?
Alex
Those are the two non Jewish attorneys in New York. I write a song about it.
Mark
So according to this article from New York Times, it says evidence presented a civil trial shows the children, especially needy or underprivileged children, were not the exclusive recipients of the proceeds of the donated cars.
Alex
The idea we all thought was you donate goes to underprivileged kids. Right? And then you got some sort of voucher or something for it or you got like a tax write off or whatever. But that was what we all assumed it was. I didn't really know anybody with a car growing up that could donate it. Like in New York you don't have a car you could give away.
Miles
My dumbass didn't even know they were selling the cars for money. I thought you were just giving the cars to poor people.
Alex
Son, I thought that too. Okay. I thought, no, no, no, no, son. There was a part of me, it was like, but what would a kid's do with a car? Like I, I just didn't understand this from the jump.
Mark
You're like, Gordon, couldn't handle.
Alex
Couldn't handle.
Miles
I thought you just a family deserve it.
Alex
Dud Cars for Kids. I didn't get it. What is this? But I assumed they would do something with the car, sell it for parts or whatever.
Mark
And the kids, that's exactly what they did.
Alex
Talk to me.
Mark
That's basically it. So according to New York Times, Cars for Kids primarily funds New Jersey based Jewish organization Uber which provides programs including an adult matchmaking service, Trips to Israel for teens and summer camps in New York.
Alex
So yeah, so. And now what they'll say is like if you go to the website that it clearly shows what it is. But I think what the Lawsuit is alleging. Is that like you're. You're not promoting it this way in the commercial. It just looks like this core money is going to kids. Yeah, but like.
Mark
Well, the commercial is like a lot of black kids.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
Very diverse. It's the white kid who's playing guitar, but he's not even playing it. Like they didn't even get actual kids that can play the guitar instruments.
Mark
Now it says in the article u also spent money overseas, the judge wrote, including a $16.5 million to buy a building in Israel.
Miles
Jesus.
Alex
They. They Black lives matter in it.
Guest
Yeah.
Alex
They turn it into a real estate venture.
Miles
But they. That was a two decade run right there.
Alex
And a nice.
Miles
Run that up quick. Yeah,
Alex
you need a better jingle and you guys are usually good at that. Wow.
Miles
You right.
Alex
This is.
Miles
This is the commercial, bro.
Alex
I don't even know if we can play that song. Still slaps, bro.
Mark
But none of these kids are.
Alex
Are
Miles
today.
Alex
Listen, they should have stopped this commercial October 8th. You know what I mean? They should.
Miles
You can't. They.
Alex
They should have known that this was going to come back.
Miles
Yeah, but nobody knew. Just keep the. Keep it going until.
Alex
That is a good point. Yeah, that's a good point.
Miles
You don't stop the pond scheme. You stop it when you get caught.
Alex
Well, it's not. I guess the issue is not a Ponzi scheme. The issue is that it's going to just Jewish kids or Jewish adults that want to take trips to Israel. And we all thought it was just underprivileged kids getting their first car.
Miles
Yeah.
Mark
Now the mascot is apparently a stack of cash named 5 5Y or 5ish.
Miles
No.
Mark
Now can we just zoom out of the anti Semitism that's currently happening in our culture? Because we should take a moment to acknowledge that racism still exists. Right?
Alex
Racism still exists.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
There's a lot of people that hate
Miles
Jews
Alex
and black people and white people and there are people that hate white people. No one really seems to care about that. But it's all good. We should start our own charity. We need it. Yeah. Yeah.
Mark
Dude, we had cars. Kids Collective.
Miles
A very funny picture. Right?
Alex
Why did you stop it right here? Yeah, why did you pause right here?
Mark
Well, just the image in and of itself is a South park sketch. I think.
Alex
Like it just is a thing that you're like crazy. I mean like how listening to this pod right now. Please go get the video.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
This is insanity. No way. This is true insanity. Oh, they're not trying to stuff the mascot in their pockets.
Miles
I'M surprised they're not fighting over it.
Mark
Father reading the Torah with his son.
Miles
What is this? Is this a sketch?
Mark
No, this is posted by the official URA page, which is a great non profit that helps Jewish youth in New York. And they also are some of the main beneficiaries of Cars for Kids.
Alex
So I guess the criticism of. The criticism of this would be awesome. If they were clear about where the money would go, maybe they wouldn't get as many donations. Therefore they were unclear about where the money went so that they could maximize. I think that's what the judge is essentially alleging in the case.
Mark
Right. Yeah. And specifically just that they can't advertise
Alex
in California because they're not. The money is not going to kids that could benefit from it in California.
Mark
I think they're saying it's false advertising.
Miles
Yes.
Alex
Yeah, but I think the false advertising comes from the fact that it's misleading. Not only misleading about being in California, but misleading about where the money is going to in general.
Mark
Yep.
Alex
Yeah. Yeah.
Mark
I mean, pretty wild in a vacuum. Quite funny.
Alex
Now, outside of what's happening in the world right now, if this, like, let's say 10 years ago we saw this and this popped up, we will be dying laughing. There would be an episode of Kirby Enthusiasm about it. Like, Larry would find out his car was hilarious.
Miles
First thing, I'm like, yo, good run, man.
Alex
You gotta give it up. Tell me 10 years ago this isn't an episode of Curb. Larry finds out he's doning the car. He thinks it's going to this, like local youth or whatever like that. He tells J.B. smoove's character, yeah, I'm zoning my car so that underprivileged kids can get the car. JB Smoove goes, larry, you know that, you know those cars don't go to kids. What the hell do they go for? They just send an adult to Israel. And then Larry goes, well, hold on. That's an episode occurred.
Mark
Larry tries to get his car back.
Alex
He tries to get his car back.
Mark
I need my Prius.
Alex
Yeah.
Mark
And they're like, we don't have your Prius. He's like, come on. I know what you guys are telling. Come on, come on. He goes, look, we're helping kids. Don't you want to help kids? You know? And he's like, give me the car.
Miles
Yeah. I mean, all time got donate all Volks wagons.
Mark
Did you see the. Oh, dude, that's funny. That is funny that so many car manufacturers are anti semitic.
Alex
Yeah, the majority. I Don't know if there's one. It isn't toy.
Mark
Yeah, no, Toyota.
Alex
Toyota linked up with. With. With the. With the N. Yeah. Ford. Yeah. Ford was American, but he was not about it.
Mark
They always get their get back. Dude, that's smart. They're like, yeah, you can make some anti semitic cars, but watch what we do. That's kind of impressive.
Alex
That was a good move. Long game.
Mark
Are you going to buy the AP Swatch collaboration?
Alex
No.
Mark
Really?
Alex
Please do not show me video of people fighting over this club.
Mark
You're not going to camp out for the AP Swatch club.
Alex
Do not show me the video that chud the builder masturbates to put me
Miles
onto this because I don't. I didn't hear about this.
Alex
Oh, God, please do not tell me that there is a fight over an AP Swatch collab.
Mark
You've heard of ap?
Miles
Yeah, yeah. You've heard of Swatch and I know. Yeah. Both brands. So they're doing a collab.
Mark
Great watch.
Guest
Has been doing collabs with. With bigger brands because they have own them. So they did like a Moonwatch from Omega and then they did an AP watch. But they never announced what the AP watch is going to look like. But AP obviously is a big brand and there's going to be a limited amount. So people started waiting outside the store for the AP Swatch collab. Seven days ahead of time, eight days ahead of time. Like in New York and Miami and the big cities where the drop was. And they never announced what it actually looked like. And there was a lot of like, AI renderings that was tricking people into thinking it's going to be like some real. Real heat. Fire, gas.
Miles
And if these are real, like they actually look kind of fire.
Mark
No, they're cool.
Guest
But it's a stopwatch. And people thought it was going to be a wristwatch. It's a pocket watch.
Miles
Got it.
Mark
But now they're selling mods to turn it into a wristwatch.
Miles
Yes.
Mark
So you can buy like 3D printed,
Guest
like mod to make it back into the thing that people thought it was going to be originally.
Mark
Yeah.
Guest
But it was never going to be a wristwatch.
Miles
It was all the only thing. I don't understand. Well, I guess I understand the hype, but like China's gonna just copy this in like a week.
Mark
Yeah.
Miles
Like, that's the easiest thing to recreate. It's all colorful, it's plastic. It's like.
Alex
I mean, you could recreate any watch now.
Miles
Yeah, but don't they have like the fake myth Watch busters, those type of.
Alex
Yeah, but like you, I mean the mechanics, you might not be able to recreate like if you're actually opening up the watch and like seeing, seeing what's inside. But if you're just running it with like a shitty little battery.
Mark
Oh yeah, there's entire like rep watch sites where like you spend like a thousand dollars.
Alex
They're expensive still.
Miles
Oh, okay.
Alex
Yeah, but they're not fifty thousand dollar watches and you're not limited in your access to them, which is like what makes these things so expensive. I mean, that's probably why ap, this ap, like Swatch collab is popping because it just gives people, one who would never have the access to get an AP or never be able to afford it, the ability to hold that luxury.
Miles
How much are these going for?
Mark
I think like 500.
Miles
Oh, really? Okay, that's smart.
Mark
And then they're immediately reselling for like 2 grand.
Alex
That's also the hustle.
Mark
So people are like, yeah, I'll stand in line, I'll get a $500 watch and flip it.
Alex
$1,500 in a day you make.
Mark
Most people are just trying to like flip these watches.
Guest
Yeah, and the Omega collab was like incredibly successful with Swatch. They made moon watches but based on the different places, planets, and it was pretty successful. And they're cool and they're like a fun wear.
Alex
Shout out Swatch man.
Miles
Yeah, that's smart.
Alex
Swatch as a brand is kind of brilliant, right? Because like the whole watch thing is built around scarcity for the most part. Like people pretend like they care about the mechanisms and like I got a buddy who like, he cares about it, but like, I also think he just looks at it as like a, like an asset that's gonna go up in value. But Swatch has never sold expensive watches.
Mark
It's pretty accessible.
Alex
They're accessible, but so they've relied on specifically being cool in a business where cool is dependent on scarcity. And they've lasted just as long as all these other watch brands.
Miles
It's interesting. I don't know how that's like the store, like you just see at the mall that you've always just passed by,
Alex
like, but it doesn't feel cheap for some reason. Yeah, like I'm more impressed with Swatch than I am Rolex or AP or any of those. Because Rolex ap, they could just charge an insane amount and never let you have it. And people are going to want to get their hands on it. Anybody can get a Swatch and it's still cool.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
And they still can pull AP into a collab. Doesn't help.
Mark
Ap. That's what I don't get. I don't get why I know it does help.
Alex
I think there is a relevance to it, of course.
Mark
And like, I think also these luxury brands are reaching the top of who they can sell to.
Alex
I think that like you've seen it
Mark
with a bunch of different luxury brands, whether it's like Bentley, Rolls Royce, SW or like ap whatever. It's like, okay, we've sold everyone. Yeah. So now do we come out with a lower level product? Well, that's going to devalue our main product. But if we do a little collab on the side, then we can open it up to a new market without necessarily devaluing our main asset.
Alex
We can't sell shit cheaper. But what we can do is get a whole new group of young people addicted to the feeling of having a prestigious watch. It's kind of a brilliant collab, bro.
Miles
It's like give them the crack for free and now they understand the watch game. And now when they, some of them are going to get money. And you're right.
Alex
And now maybe they choose an AP instead of a Rolex. They choose an AP instead of a. What's the other one? Like Patek, Patek Philippe. Yeah.
Guest
Swatch is also so smart. They own a huge. I think they're like the biggest watch brand in the world if I'm not mistaken. They own Omega, all that. And they use their, they use their own brands first to do these collabs.
Mark
That's smart.
Guest
And make this like really cool plastic Omega. And it was such a hot success that now the like local or like family owned brands, Rolex, I think APs that and a couple others are like maybe gonna come talking to Swatch. It's a great collab.
Alex
Reach out. That's the thing. Like, I'm more impressed with the CEO of Zara than I am the CEO of Louis Vuitton or something like that. Just because rich people are gonna buy the expensive because they don't want to be seen as regular. So it's easy to sell them that. And then people who don't have any money want the expensive because then you can be like, I'm rich for a second. Right. But maintaining perceived value of a brand that sells shit for cheap without it feeling cheap. Yeah, that's hard. Yeah.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
You know what I mean? Mean like, like Old Navy had like a little run when we were younger, maybe because we were kids, but like they had, like, the cargo shorts or whatever it was, and, like, it was the cheapest version of, like, the Gap Old Navy Banana Republic. Do you remember when? But, like, there was a moment where it was, like, the coolest.
Mark
I mean, Gap kind of does it.
Alex
Well, Gap has killed it for, like, a while, and I think they kind of fell off, and that's why they went to. Yay. Yeah. But it was, like, attainable. It wasn't cheap. The quality was good. But there was a cool factor or a quality factor.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
That is hard when anybody can buy it. But maintaining, like, this feeling of cool.
Miles
Yeah, yeah.
Alex
Like, what makes something cool is inherently. It's inaccessibility.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
I. I would rather talk to that CEO and be like, how the. You do this? Yeah. Selling some for a billion dollars that nobody can afford. Why? How is that hard?
Mark
That's why I love Genesis. Talk to those cars. Have you seen them?
Alex
Yes.
Mark
They're so, so cool. They look amazing. And they're more affordable. So it's like. I mean, miles. You can probably speak to it better, but, like, it's like the low. It's like the affordable luxury car.
Guest
It's lexus in the 90s.
Alex
Yeah.
Guest
Genesis is owned by Hyundai. Hyundai, I think, owns most of Kia. If I'm not mistaken, Hyundai used to have a car called the Hyundai Genesis.
Miles
That's what I thought you're talking about.
Guest
This was their first foray. They wanted to make a nice car. Kia is attempting to make some. Some nice cars.
Alex
Yeah.
Guest
And Hyundai basically was like, all right, we got to make the next great, reliable brand. It's lexus in the 90s. It's Acura. It's all of these. It's all these middle brands that can make a high quality.
Alex
The logo kind of looks like a Bentley logo a bit.
Mark
It feels luxury.
Alex
It feels luxury. Yeah.
Guest
And they're awesome. And then I think they're great cars. I'm really impressed by them. And they're beautiful.
Alex
Look at that logo.
Miles
That. No Aston Martin or Aston Martin.
Alex
Aston Martin.
Guest
And they're wild, like, reliable, because they come from one of the biggest brands out of Korea.
Alex
That's the smart move right there, because somebody told me this, where it's like, it's. It's incredibly difficult to take a accessible brand and then do an expensive thing with it. Like, nobody wants to buy the $10,000 suit from Zara. Right. But you can move down. So, like, people would absolutely buy the $500 suit from Prada. That would be the highest selling thing the Prada would have right.
Miles
500 AP from.
Alex
Exactly. It's like because basically you want to buy in to the, to the luxury brand at the cheapest amount. It's, it's almost like a real estate purchase where you're like, you want the shittiest house in the nicest neighborhood. How can I buy into this neighborhood? My house.
Mark
Yeah, yeah.
Alex
So creating an entirely different car so that you can have the quote unquote, like luxury. I don't know if Genesis is a luxury is actually easy. Easier than selling an expensive Hyundai. Oh yeah, because who's buying a hundred thousand dollar Hyundai?
Guest
Well, used to be something called I think the Hyundai Equus and that was like their attempt, but it didn't, didn't work.
Alex
But like you've seen like Toyota had to make Lexus because people were gonna cap out at how much they'd spent on a Toyota.
Mark
Right.
Guest
And the original Lexuses were legit, just re badged Toyotas with leather seats. But it was just enough to be good. Good.
Alex
Like that's weird how our brains work
Guest
in that, that original LS400 is so cool. I don't know.
Alex
Car. That was your first car?
Guest
Yeah, no, no, my first car was a Toyota Avalon, which is like the Toyota's version. They were trying.
Alex
I remember that.
Mark
What was the Lexus you had in College though?
Guest
Es 300.
Alex
It was the Toyota Corolla, then the Toyota Camry and then the Toyota Avalon.
Guest
I have the Avalon now they have the crown, I think is like their new high brand.
Alex
But I think Uber did, did that. So when Uber first started, it was just black cars.
Mark
Oh really?
Alex
In its earliest iteration. So it was like you got a fancy car service and then as they scaled, they got to do Uber X or whatever it is where like it barely needs four wheels and like spells and it's horrible. But like you're. But they knew. They're like, we can offer a cheaper version of this. Yeah, but Lyft for example, start. Started at the version. Nobody's ordering a Lyft black car. Yeah, yeah, right, because your perception of Lyft, right, is the cheap. No, exactly.
Mark
You ever order Uber and a yellow taxi pulls up. That is hilarious.
Alex
That is a little frustrating.
Mark
He goes, from Mark. I'm like, how do you know my name? Yeah, who told you my name?
Miles
What do you know about me?
Mark
What is going on here?
Alex
Remember Uber pool?
Mark
Oh yeah, bro.
Guest
You'd, you'd be going uptown and someone else would be going uptown on the same street and they just pick them up and you'd be Talking in the car.
Alex
Yeah, yeah, that was wild.
Guest
I also like that time of the night where you in New York City can land it, where the black cars are going down to just regular Uber X. You just call Uber X and a nice ass.
Alex
Like, oh, how good does that feel when you, when you call like just the Uber regular and yeah, it's like,
Miles
oh, a nice little free.
Mark
I was talking my buddy Chris out about this. The Uber tried to roll out a thing where they were like, okay, we're going to have like a van, like a, like an eight or 10 passenger van that goes on specific routes and then you can get on at any point and get off at any point. And he was like, you just invented the bus driving bus.
Alex
That's not even Uber. Jamaicans were doing that in Brooklyn for our entire life. There was a two dollar bus and it was like an unsanctioned thing in Brooklyn.
Miles
It was the Dollar Van or the Dollar Van.
Alex
I think it went up to 2.
Mark
Damnation.
Alex
But it was, it was the dollar Van in Brooklyn and it was always Jamaicans that ran it and they had their route and that's kind of how you got around parts of Brooklyn that didn't have a of lot of bro.
Miles
That's how I got around Far Rockaway.
Alex
Was it in Queens too? Yeah, I guess there's Jamaicans in Queens.
Mark
Yeah. Wow. I mean that's so funny. I feel like, like Chinese churches have this all the time.
Alex
Well, well, Chinese had the, the bus.
Mark
Yeah, it was a full bus.
Alex
So Chinese would do this bus service that would take you from Chinatown to Chinatown. So you could go to Boston, but you go from Canal street to Boston Chinatown and it basically was cheaper than every other Greyhound bus service or bolt bus or whatever that still to this
Guest
day I took it.
Alex
D.C. was the route. So that was like the little hacking and white people found out about it and you just had to be cool with the dude with like a live chicken on his lap. But it was by far the cheapest.
Miles
Yeah, like 20 bucks.
Alex
I think there was like a murder on it.
Miles
No, I'm pretty sure these buses always accidents. No, no.
Alex
Do you remember there was like a, there was like a gang. I think it was like some gang shit because they were obviously like, I don't know if this is for sure, but you assume that they can charge that cheap because they're also running something else between the different Chinatown.
Mark
Interesting.
Guest
You remember the murder that happened on the bus where the guy cut, I
Alex
think co spread so fast. Like there's, there's A the mega bus flew.
Mark
No, I know exactly the better.
Guest
The one where he cuts other guy's head off right in front of everyone on the bus. You ever heard of this?
Alex
Was that on a Chinatown bus?
Guest
No, I think it was in Canada, bro.
Mark
Yeah, it was in Canada. This guy, Vince Wa Gang Lee killed a 22 year old after hearing what he thought was the voice of God. He starts killing the guy. Everyone runs off to the bus, he beheads him and holds up the head
Guest
in the window and he's like smiling and.
Alex
Yeah.
Mark
God told me to do this. And according to BBC News, he was out, bro. Granted freedom.
Alex
Yeah, he's out off of insane. Momentary insanity or whatever it's called.
Mark
Yeah. According to this article, the voice told me that I had a third story of the Bible and that I was the second coming of Jesus and I was to save people from a space alien attack. He also said that he was, quote, really sorry.
Miles
Who's to say that's not true?
Guest
He's really sorry.
Mark
He's really sorry.
Guest
And then guys, I didn't mean to do that.
Mark
He was allowed to live in his own apartment in Winnipeg, Manitoba and is still the subject to moderating to ensure that he took his medication.
Miles
Not true. We keep calling these people crazy, man. Maybe they just prophets, right.
Mark
We call Noah crazy.
Miles
Yeah.
Mark
And built an ark. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.
Miles
They called Eileen crazy. You know.
Mark
No, no.
Alex
All right. Final. Of course.
Miles
I wasn't trying to catch you.
Alex
What are my next hat?
Guest
Yeah. Final feelings. No, fact.
Alex
You or my next hat.
Miles
That clip is so funny, bro. Just watching that was so good.
Guest
Talk about it. You want to do game one? You want to talk about the series?
Alex
I want to talk about the series. What do we have for the series?
Miles
We busting that ass. That's where we at 701 right now.
Alex
Cowshi odds for the series are 71% percent. I hate this. I don't even feel comfortable being ahead. Yeah. Like I feel my comfort is being the underdog and having irrational confidence about that.
Mark
Right.
Alex
My comfort is not we're supposed to sweep them. That makes me feel very. Yeah, I, I.
Mark
Well, let's go back to April 23rd. Yeah.
Guest
April 23rd at 1am it was. Cleveland was up. So you would, you would have been happy then.
Miles
Yeah.
Alex
Yeah.
Mark
How do you feel about that? Cleveland's busting your ass in April 23rd.
Alex
That's better. I feel better about that.
Miles
I got a stable pass. Yeah.
Alex
How do you feel?
Miles
Al, I'm only going to game one because it's like, if I'm bad luck, we'll still have enough time to recover.
Alex
Why would you even do that?
Miles
I got to go to one.
Alex
That's selfish. I got to go to. I got to go to one.
Mark
Come on.
Miles
Selfish. I got to go to one.
Alex
We're going to remember.
Miles
We feel, too. This is.
Alex
Come on.
Mark
We got. We don't remember this.
Miles
Got to go to one.
Alex
I got to go.
Mark
Where are you going to be for game one?
Alex
In a bunker, soundproof studio.
Miles
Got to go.
Alex
I'll be honest. I thought about. I thought about going. I thought about going, and I was like, let's get a couple W's on our belt first. Let's just see what happens. Let's just see what happens. Let's see how the boys play. They've been off. That's another thing. They've been off for a week. That's good.
Miles
They're nice and rested. Cleveland win seven games. They tired.
Alex
Yeah, they're tired, but they're also in a rhythm. They're in a. A rhythm. They're in a rhythm.
Miles
Come on.
Guest
Did you check your DMs? Did anyone send you some sneak photos of them out at clubs or anything?
Alex
Somebody sent me something. Somebody sent me something. Not out of the club. It was like, somebody they were talking about. It was like one of the Knicks players talking about something, but I think they've been good.
Miles
Okay, but, you know, Harden's already celebrating at a strip club. Like, we good?
Alex
Well, that's the other thing. It's like, they got partiers on Cleveland.
Miles
Yep.
Alex
And, like, New York. Yeah, New York. This is where it's time. Like, you got to be s up.
Mark
You got to do a s up.
Alex
It's not even a sc.
Mark
You got to send in the honey pots, dude.
Alex
Yeah, but that's not a. Is that a sign up? I thought a s up is something else.
Mark
I mean, kind of just covert operation.
Alex
Weaken the knees. You got guys that want to party. If there's anybody, like, if the. It should be free liquor, free tables for any Cleveland y.
Mark
Any cab, put their ass against the window, start sucking.
Alex
Sucking.
Mark
Put them up against the window. Lick the booty hole.
Alex
I mean that sincerely. Like, there. There are hoes here in New York. New York that you guys that really don't deserve you. Now, you could do something great for the city. You could be a hero. Yeah, you could literally be a hero. So you know who to go after on that team. And, like, listen, this is the greatest city in the world. People get caught up in a Lot of these guys in Cleveland. They're in Cleveland all year. They never experienced fine dining like this.
Miles
Use that throat for good.
Alex
Yeah, I don't use the throat. Like, listen. Use some old fish in their meals. You know what I mean? Like, if they're going out to eat, there's more ways to listen. Michael Jordan just randomly gets a flu after having pizza at 2 in the morning. No, they poison that. I'm not saying you should poison people.
Mark
No, suck him off. James Harden. He needs to get sucked off. I'm not saying needs to be sucked off.
Alex
We don't want any lasting damage.
Mark
Max Truss needs to be sucked off. Sucked off. Jared Allen. Sucked off. We need all of these sucked New York now.
Alex
It's time, bro. You don't just let the boys fight on the court. This is a fight the entire series. Wherever they are, drain them. Drain them out.
Guest
Suck them.
Alex
Suck them, dude. Be a eater, yo. I mean, literally, like, now is the time. Like, now is if you're. Now is the time, man. That's all I. Now's the time, guys. We all need to rally around our boys and make it as easy as possible for them out there. It's a commitment as a city. Yeah.
Mark
You can do your part.
Alex
You can do your part. You will be rewarded for it.
Miles
Yes.
Mark
If.
Alex
If you are the girl that causes unbelievable turmoil for any team the Knicks are facing, just know you're queen of the city.
Mark
Yes.
Alex
You're queen of the city. Doors are open.
Mark
Put them on a parade. Give them the front float of the parade.
Alex
They would absolutely get that. We celebrate like that. Yep.
Mark
It's a very liberal city.
Alex
It's a very liberal city.
Mark
If you're sucking off James Donovan. Max, Evan and Jarrett, get on front of the float.
Alex
Dude. I'll be honest. I think that we would reward that here.
Miles
Oh, absolutely.
Alex
We would absolutely award that.
Mark
Yeah.
Alex
Anyway, we got this.
Miles
We got this.
Alex
All right.
Mark
We also. The obsession movie. I think you're going to be f to me. Netflix MVP fights obsession movie. We got the Odyssey trailer that people are talking about.
Alex
Should we go rip a little Patreon on these right now? Okay, we're going to rip Patreon right now. We'll see you guys there. Patreon.com Flagrant Peace.
Mark
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Andrew Schulz’s Flagrant with Akaash Singh – May 20, 2026
In this unruly and unfiltered episode, the Flagrant crew dives deep into Drake’s highly anticipated triple album Iceman, unpacking its lyrical content, the ongoing Kendrick Lamar beef, and the staggering number of subtle and not-so-subtle disses sprinkled throughout. The second half of the episode pivots to the messy saga of “Chud the Builder,” a provocative streamer whose antics and subsequent arrest spark a broader debate on the boundaries of free speech and antagonism in digital culture.
[00:23 – 11:49]
[11:49 – 54:51]
Biggest Disses Identified (see more in Notable Quotes section):
Album Rollout as Chart Play: The crew speculates Drake’s intentional push for historic Billboard charting, likening it to Michael Jackson’s triple-album dominance (23:46).
[54:51 – 86:59]
[59:39 – 79:30]
[102:19 – End]
“If you play one on one with Steph Curry… you want to know where he’s pulling from.”
– (Alex, 06:28) on expectations from porn stars
“Drake is back. It’s heat, bro. If you hate on this album, you’re just a hater.”
– (Miles, 13:01), summarizing the crew’s verdict on Iceman
“You don’t have to say the N-word to him. You could just go up to any group of dudes and be like, y’all are [X], and they would try to fight you… It’s not about free speech, it’s about disrespect.”
– (Mark, 62:30) on antagonistic streaming
“Why is it glazing to appreciate the person who’s the best at the thing? Am I a Michael Jordan glazer?”
– (Alex, 14:44)
“This is the logical conclusion to the internet—if you don’t have the ability to generate attention from skill, you’ll do it based on pure shock.”
– (Alex, 60:09) on troll streamers
On DJ Khaled’s silence over Palestine:
“What would you do if you were Khaled? You gotta join Hamas. That’s the only way, right?”
– (Alex, 31:01) – delivered as flagrant joke
“You have the right to say whatever you want, but you’re not free from the repercussions another person might have.”
– (Alex, 67:17) on speech vs. social consequence
The episode is packed with Flagrant’s trademark comedy and irreverence. The hosts take serious issues and consistently diffuse them with outlandish analogies, punchy banter, and flagrant outbursts (“Use that throat for good!”). Serious commentary on internet toxicity, racism, and hip hop culture is always couched in meta self-awareness and rapid-fire jokes.
For fans seeking unfiltered discussions and wild cultural hot takes, this episode is quintessential Flagrant.