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Andrew Schulz
Ma go. Nail polish coming off. Al got like three more weeks of nail polish. Trump's America. Nail polish is done. What are the new pronouns? Akash, tell them the new pronouns.
Akash Singh
M A slash, G A, ma, G.
Andrew Schulz
That one is also. That word is back. Everything's back. When we walked in, Dove was singing maga nugula maga. Nagula maga. Nagula maga. Listen, we've been very fair and unbiased about this election. Unlike some of us, Alex has been riding Kamala's roti for the last three months. Okay, that's an Indian.
Akash Singh
That was good.
Andrew Schulz
And Doug, why don't you just stand directly in front of all three cameras? More in the world. Why don't you just put the Chablis down?
Akash Singh
Put it down.
Andrew Schulz
Oh, we know, we know you got to eat first. We know you got to eat first.
Akash Singh
What a surprise. Dove comes somewhere he's not welcome and won't leave.
Andrew Schulz
They get kicked out. It's 110.
Mark Gagnon
We call you the Little hats and you're wearing the biggest hat possible. Why are you doing that?
Andrew Schulz
Okay, okay, in all seriousness, I want to have a conversation.
Alex Media
You're not wearing your son yarmulke, bro.
Andrew Schulz
What?
Akash Singh
No, no, sitting his backpack. It's his lucky charm.
Andrew Schulz
Oh, yeah. Okay, okay. But in all seriousness, guys, let's have a real conversation. Alex, what are you feeling? You know, what's going on in your mind? You know, how are you dealing with the information?
Alex Media
Nah, it's. It's a great day. You know, I woke up to racist text messages and DMS and stuff.
Andrew Schulz
A lot of S's in that word for you, right? Yeah, it was.
Akash Singh
What'd they. And text him. Who raises text messaging?
Alex Media
Yeah, that's just DMs. Just DM?
Andrew Schulz
Yeah. Come on. I mean, ideology right now, but my.
Alex Media
Group chat of all black guys, they.
Andrew Schulz
Got to hit me with they happy, bro. They're happy. Oh, they are. Come on.
Alex Media
My parents a bagger.
Andrew Schulz
I shouldn't have gone to you first. I knew you were going to bring down the mood. Tell me what the family celebration was like. What was the group chat doing?
Mark Gagnon
Group chats divided. Group chat divided.
Andrew Schulz
Why?
Mark Gagnon
Some people are like, hell yeah, Trump's president, let's fucking go. The other half is like, the corporations have taken over and Satan is now in charge because ultimately all politicians serve Satan. Okay, so there's no political discourse.
Andrew Schulz
Yo, Mark's mom is the shit we got to have. We should have had her on today. That would have been the best. Yeah, and just watch her Just laser beam Dove for two hours on the podcast, stare straight into his soul. Yeah. You guys knew who was going to win.
Mark Gagnon
Dove would convert.
Andrew Schulz
Absolutely convert. Okay. What are you feeling, Akash?
Akash Singh
Yeah, you know, I kind of smugly satisfied like this. What y'all get? Y'all didn't want to come on flagrant. You know, they told us it was too big of a risk. It was too big of a risk for Kamala to come on. Okay. You fucking loser. You know what I mean? Like, you know, it's a kind of a risk not doing any big podcasts, bro.
Andrew Schulz
You know what? We told a little Chinese man once he was running for. He's running for mayor of New York City. Yeah. We say, yo, if you wanna. If you wanna be mayor, you gotta come on flagrant. The only way that you could be mayor of New York City is if you come on flagrant.
Akash Singh
Yep.
Andrew Schulz
Said it was too big of a risk.
Akash Singh
And now look at him. Where is he?
Mark Gagnon
Selling insurance.
Akash Singh
Anybody heard his name for five years.
Andrew Schulz
Selling insurance in Wisconsin?
Alex Media
He has a nice podcast.
Andrew Schulz
Does he?
Alex Media
That records out of WTF Media Studio?
Andrew Schulz
Oh, my God. With all due respect, he's great. He's absolutely amazing. Are you sure it's him? It is over in Canal street, so I don't want. I just want to make sure you're not being racist right now.
Akash Singh
He delivers my sushi.
Andrew Schulz
It is weird. It's weird. He collects rent from me at the end of the month. That is a peculiar arrangement. No, yeah. Just. Just a wild time. It's just. It's just a wild time. Okay, let's. Let's get. Let's get into a lot of different conversations.
Mark Gagnon
Well, how are things in the. In your household?
Andrew Schulz
Oh, I didn't tell y'all. Or maybe I did tell y'all. I tried to pull Larry David yesterday, because, you know me, the idea of, like, going to vote, it just seems like such an effort. Oh, my God. Then my address was in a different place, and I was like, I'm not going all the way up to that polling thing. So my wife. Five blocks away. No, no, I was on 58th. Oh. Because business manager put the address, like, a whole thing. Whatever. Anyway, so I asked my wife. I'm like, yo, who are you voting for? She goes, I'm voting for Kamala. You know, like, we have a daughter, and I'm worried about her reproductive rights.
Alex Media
Let's go.
Andrew Schulz
And I was like, that's a good ass point. Yeah. And then I also. Hold on, hold on. I also calculated. I was like, probably got another couple elections before the reproductive rights. I think we can fix that up. I think we got about two or three more before we're gonn need one of them.
Akash Singh
Two or three?
Andrew Schulz
Come on.
Akash Singh
About five or six, hopefully.
Andrew Schulz
No, you're right. You're right. Why am I eight to 12? How many years did I think Trump was going to be there? Forever? You heard that, shifty maga.
Alex Media
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Andrew Schulz
There's no more maga.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, we never have to vote again. How convenient is that?
Alex Media
No more election.
Andrew Schulz
Anyway, so I asked my wife. I'm like, yo, who are you voting for? She goes, kamala. And I'm like, all right, look, I want to do a Larry David with you. So I'm going to vote Trump. You're going to vote Kamala. If neither of us vote, then we did vote. Yeah, right, because they cancel each other out. This is Larry David Curb youb Enthusiasm episode. She goes, all right, that kind of makes sense. Then hits me up. Midway through the day, I went and voted. I said, this motherfucker. This motherfucker trying to get one over on me. I rolled right to the closest precinct. I said, yo, can I vote here? Even though I'm not signed up? And they were like, yeah, this is America. You don't even need an id. You don't even need to speak English. You can walk in here with a Venezuelan flag and a gun and you can vote. So I walked in there and they were like, you could sign an affidavit or some other bullshit. And I just voted.
Akash Singh
Hell, yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Evened it out.
Alex Media
They take them shits, throw them right out.
Andrew Schulz
They try to do extra work. All right, so let's. Let's get into this discussion real quick. What do you think the real decision was that was made by the American public?
Mark Gagnon
Economy, you think?
Andrew Schulz
It was. In my estimation, this is what I think it was a referendum on liberal politics and leftist politics. I don't think it was Trump populism. I think a lot of people are going, this is Trump is this amazing populace. And he was just so engaging, and everybody just fucking loved him. No, I actually think in the same way that people voted anti Trump, let's say in 2020, I think people were voting anti Trump democratic leadership in 2024. And I think that's evident across the board. I mean, you saw your da in California get knocked down. The Republicans flip the Senate. The voter turnout is much higher. They win every. Does he win every swing state?
Akash Singh
I don't know if she got a single one, dude.
Andrew Schulz
So, like, to me, it's a rejection of the current state of liberal politics and the fact that those people felt concerns that were not met by Democrats on the campaign trail. They had no real answer for the border. They just gaslit people about the border. They had no real answer for the economy. They had no real answer for anything.
Akash Singh
Nope.
Andrew Schulz
So I think it was, one, a rejection of liberal politics, and then two, just like a truly, like, once in a lifetime awful candidate. I don't think that you can. I don't think that you can.
Akash Singh
What is it, discredit or discount?
Andrew Schulz
Not discredit. I don't think you can discount that.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Like, you need to have a star.
Akash Singh
Yep.
Andrew Schulz
You know what I mean? Like, when I saw Obama on the campaign trail, I was like, holy shit, this guy's a fucking superstar. And then you see her, like, flopping around like a fish on. You know, on a boat, you know, and it's like. It was just brutal, you know? So I think it was a rejection of leftist policies and leftist politics along with just a truly horrible campaign.
Akash Singh
The other part of the politics I think that people were fed up with was just the games Democrats play in the guise of democracy. And, like, we're the ones who care about the people. Nobody elected Kamala just like nobody wanted Hillary in 2016. You just. You're so eager to have a woman president or whatever it is. Whatever your reasoning is, this is the corporate person. Fuck actual democracy in action during the primaries. Let's put in the candidate we want. And then I think it's one of the worst campaigns. I think she could be a good candidate, but maybe the worst campaign I've ever seen.
Andrew Schulz
Is legacy media done?
Akash Singh
Legacy media is done.
Andrew Schulz
So I have. I have theories on this, I think. Okay, because you got to look at it two ways. Is legacy media done, or was Kamala so bad that even with the influence of legacy media, they couldn't get it over the hump? For example, if Michelle was running or if. Or if Barack was running with legacy media in its current state, I think they might be able to still get it over the. That's. It's amazing.
Akash Singh
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andrew Schulz
But. So I don't think legacy media is completely done, but I do think that there is something very interesting that happened here. Legacy media still gets the eyeballs, it still gets the views, and it still has cultural influence. Up until election night, we all thought that it was a close race.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
That's legacy media that is constantly pushing narratives that not only is it close, she might be ahead Iowa's going to her. She's going to flip all the states. It's going to be an absolute mauling. Right. That is legacy media pushing a narrative.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And people believing said narrative. Yeah. Right. So, I mean, if you look at all the pollsters, they had her winning day of.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Like outside of like poly market, which I don't even know if you can critic is just dudes gambling. It's like there's no actual women representing.
Akash Singh
Women are gambling.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Akash Singh
I don't.
Andrew Schulz
So. So I, I look at this, I look at, I look at a legacy media and I'm like, okay, now here is the difference. And I'm not just saying this because we're podcasters, but Trump went on podcasts, did these long interviews. Kamala did some podcasts too, but most of them were short, very contrived interviews. It was very controlled. It was things edited out. It was, you know, it wasn't exactly the free form speech that we're kind of used to. Also specifically targeted to one demographic. Like, you could tell in the last month that the campaign was like, we want black people to come out and vote. And we really aren't trying to reach out to anybody else.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Which is a huge, I think, problem for them because they just got lower all around turnout.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And maybe if they spoke to more people, then more people could have been inspired. But here's the thing that happens. One thing that podcasting has done that's been really effective is built community and connection. Right. Like, if you look at the biggest touring stand up comedians in the world.
Mark Gagnon
Right.
Andrew Schulz
It's. They all have podcasts where they've built this amazing community and connection. And like, we talk to people every single week. They know intimate details about our life. To me, what that's proven is that just because people are famous doesn't mean you go out.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Right. Connection is actually what makes people go out. There are comics on SNL that I don't know if they could sell out a weekend of, of shows at a, at a comedy club. You know, they're on the biggest comedy platform in the world. And then there are comics who have podcasts that can sell at arenas.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
To me, the difference between new media and legacy media is connection.
Akash Singh
Okay.
Andrew Schulz
The purpose of this podcast is to get people invest in our lives and then be along for that journey. Be it. We go do stand up shows, we go do some sort of live tour, some live activation, just be part of our lives. The purpose of legacy media is to sell depression pills. That is the purpose of the show.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
They're creating the show so that they can sell those depression pills.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
That's not to say we don't have ads. Of course we have ads. We didn't originally for months, a year when we started this. The purpose of this was to build a community and a connection. And I think that fatal flaw, her not going onto these podcasts is that people weren't able to make that connection. And just as people come out to shows because they build that connection with us here, they came out to vote because he built that connection.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
People leave the house when they didn't have to leave the house to vote. They voted for Biden. They mailed it in when they had to leave the house to go to a stand up show or leave the house to vote. You better fucking. We talk about this all the time. It's an investment. Putting on fucking clothes, standing in line for a couple hours.
Akash Singh
And we only mailed it in because we were locked inside for six months and we had nothing else to do for sure. I'm not mailing in if I can go outside and do things.
Mark Gagnon
Sure.
Akash Singh
Because we could have mailed in this time, but we're not. I think the. When I say legacy media is done, I mean they can still set a narrative. People still watch it, their influences. Them being the most influential force in the world is done.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I don't. I wouldn't say done. I would just say that like they don't have the connectivity. And the great disruption with new media is the connectivity.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And before. And the reason why I create the analogy with comics is like there before there were comics that could sell out shows by being in a commercial. Like they're in a commercial for Pepsi and they could sell out a week of shows just because there are so few famous people.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Now everybody is gone viral.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
What type of connection do you have with your audience?
Mark Gagnon
I think legacy media just hits a different crop of voters. Like with the advent of like TikTok is like, is Facebook done? It's like. Well, I think Facebook just kind of hits like a different group of people in a different age bracket in a different geography. And I think legacy media effectively does the same thing. I think younger people are probably seeking connection more so and that community specifically digitally is probably more valuable to younger people. Whereas, like, I don't know, our parents are not listening to podcasts, but they'll probably tune in to CNN or Fox or whatever and they'll watch that and then get their information based off that. So I think mobilizing young people podcasts is the way to go.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
And then as far as getting older people, I think you have to. I think you now are in a. Where it's not pick one or the other, but you have to play both.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she chose not to play one.
Akash Singh
Unbelievable.
Mark Gagnon
Or she played it in a specific way that I think hurt her negatively is so dumb.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
Like, call her daddy. I don't think you can discount Breakfast Club. I don't think you can discount. But I think in order to get all of them, you need to do all of them.
Andrew Schulz
Like they only did outside of Call her Daddy, it felt like they only did black podcasts. And to me, if I'm an American voter, it's. I'm almost, like, insulted by it. I'm like, hey, we're here too. Like, I know we don't live in Wisconsin or Pennsylvania, but we also care about what you're going to do for us. And if you're just talking about these things the month before the election, we might feel like you don't give a fuck about what's going on for us.
Akash Singh
The way I'm wired. If I'm a black voter. I'm sorry to interrupt. If I'm a black voter, I start to feel lonely.
Andrew Schulz
You feel pandered to.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Like, what do you do? All you ever do is you're going to go have a fucking town hall. You're going to go do all the smoke. And I got. Those are great platforms. But, like, that's all you're going to do is just sit here and talk to me. Like, this is the liberal thing, where it's like, yo, you're not equal. Yeah, you're. You're a little less than us. So let's just pander to you like, you're a fucking moron and you'll buy into it because you're so fucking stupid and helpless as a minority.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, fuck you.
Akash Singh
Suck my dick. Talk to America and I'll listen and I'll choose who I want.
Andrew Schulz
Right, Sorry.
Akash Singh
What were you going to say?
Alex Media
I think part of the reason Obama got elected was because he got a lot of the black people, the black vote out to actually vote. A large percentage of the black community do not go out and vote. So I think that was part of the strategy of targeting a particular group to try to get them as happy and energized to get out to actually vote like Obama did. I think using podcasts was great strategy on both sides. This was the first election run that they ever did that. So it was like it was hit or miss. Let's say Trump loses. People would have been like, ah, he wasted all that time going on podcasts instead of just going out and doing rap.
Andrew Schulz
No, people could have said that this.
Akash Singh
Was a game Trump lost. I'll get to that. We'll go.
Alex Media
And so it's like Obama's amazing strategy was utilizing social media during his run, and that was never seen before. So I think it was just the fact that they tried new things and some work, some didn't. And clearly Trump connected with people better than Kamala.
Akash Singh
So if I can respond to that.
Andrew Schulz
Sorry.
Akash Singh
I think if you watch sports, this is what always happens. If a team goes for it on fourth down and they make it, coach is a genius. If they don't, he's an idiot. It always. Hindsight influences everything. I think even if Trump lost personally, I would have been like, no, he lost because of January 6th, he lost because of XYZ. All these other things that happen outside of the podcast world, if you just look at raw numbers of Joe Rogan and say, oh, 60 million views on YouTube alone. For a guy who's still bigger on audio, just hitting that raw number of people, if you're like, no, you know what's going to win me the election? Let's go do a black podcast that gets 1/100th of that list.
Andrew Schulz
Charlamagne said to me, the number one podcast with black listenership and viewership in the world is Joe Rogan. So you chose not to go on the biggest podcast for black people in the world. Like, that is a huge choice. And while doing that, you could have also hit all these other people as well. To me, the strategy is they weren't ready for the pushback and they wanted to go on platforms that were going to be more comfortable, you know, with their control in their hand. Life Tour. Last few dates, Reno, we had a second show. San Jose, Portland. You guys are all sold out. Thank you so much. New York City. I love y'all, man. All four shows sold out. And then Honolulu, that is the final day. Go grab those tickets. Honolulu, some seats left for that. Those are the last shows of the Life tour. We love y'all. We appreciate y'all. We'll see you out there. TheAndrew shows.com Peace also, guys, shows real quick.
Akash Singh
First of all, London, I'm coming through next week. Maybe we do a little pop up, maybe we don't. I don't know. I'm going to be giving a Speech at Oxford. Who would have fucking thought? Anyway, November 22nd and 23rd, I'm going to be in Rochester at the Carlson. December 4th. I told you guys, these tickets are going to sell out. We're almost sold out for my shows at Governors in Levitt Town. I am a hero in Long island now. Before, they didn't like me. Now they love me. I wonder why. Maybe because I got their president elected. Anyway, December 6th and 7th, I'm going to be in Albany, New York. I think those are my last dates for the year. But get those tickets and we're going to start announcing 2025 dates soon. Akash Singh dot com. Let's get back to the show.
Mark Gagnon
Pots Down, Pennsylvania, this Friday, November 8th, I'm going to be at Soul Joel's.
Akash Singh
And again, without looking at your phone.
Mark Gagnon
I just had to double check.
Andrew Schulz
November 8th.
Mark Gagnon
November 8th.
Akash Singh
November. Here, let me just do that.
Mark Gagnon
But then Stanford, Connecticut.
Akash Singh
Do it again. Do it again. Let's do it again.
Mark Gagnon
Pottstown, Pennsylvania, this Friday, November 8th, I'm gonna be at Soul Joel's this Wednesday. Stanford, Connecticut. I'm gonna be in New York Comedy club. I can't wait to see you guys there.
Akash Singh
Is that it? Isn't that all we got?
Mark Gagnon
World's fastest ad read.
Alex Media
He didn't say New York's comedy club.
Akash Singh
This could be your head right there. Ladies.
Alex Media
You didn't say Stanford, Connecticut.
Mark Gagnon
I want to make it fast. That way people go, but they're gonna.
Andrew Schulz
Think that it's new.
Akash Singh
Ladies, right here.
Mark Gagnon
No, Stanford, Connecticut, New York Comedy club.
Akash Singh
Face one more time right here.
Mark Gagnon
Or, guys, if it's too long, you're gonna skip hypotheticalistic. Kamala does go on. Rogan goes on, Lex goes on. Theo. Does she win? I don't think so. I think fundamentally the strategy of her campaign was flawed from the get go. And I think Biden largely, like, kiboshed her odds by just pulling out so late.
Alex Media
Yes.
Mark Gagnon
That, like, even if she had done these things, I think it absolutely would have helped, but I don't think it would have won her the election.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, I think it would have won her the election if she was good.
Mark Gagnon
Well, yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And the reality is it's like we'll never know if she was good because we were never given her.
Mark Gagnon
Right.
Andrew Schulz
And the most real you've ever seen her is when she and Charlemagne were sitting down and I was like, charlemagne, don't have any callers call in. Don't. I said, I'm brilliant. Idiots. I was like, you just need to talk. This woman for three Fucking hours. That is the closest that we've seen her to being a real person and not just a politician talk to her. That is the way that American can get to know her. America doesn't know her. They've seen her flip flop on every single issue. Which is okay. I'm okay if politicians change their mind. I'm totally okay with that. But give me an explanation as to why they've seen her gaslight about the border, haven't answered a single fucking question about the border correctly or with any amount of confidence that maybe American people believe that they were going to do something different. Like there are real issues that they didn't touch on. And I feel like Charlemagne could be unbiased, but I think he could have been the guy to actually push her. Push her to answer those questions.
Alex Media
But like Mark said, I think Biden dropping out so late her up.
Akash Singh
Right on.
Alex Media
She didn't have enough time.
Akash Singh
She don't win a primary. I don't think if Biden doesn't run again and they have a primary, she don't win the primary, bro.
Andrew Schulz
Let's. We just got to call it.
Alex Media
Do you think it would have been different? Do you think it would have been different? I don't have more time to prepare for this run.
Akash Singh
I truly don't. I truly don't.
Alex Media
Because the things you're complaining about is like, oh, hey, we didn't hear enough from her. No, no, you had more time to hear something fast.
Andrew Schulz
That's all it is. It's like the horse ain't fast. Like she's not a Ferrari, bro.
Alex Media
No, I'm not disagreeing with that.
Andrew Schulz
So. So it's like it so far, what we saw. She had plenty of opportunities to win us over. It's not like she didn't have every single podcast that you could have gone. It's not like she. She didn't go on one podcast that people said, yo, you gotta listen to. This is Kind of fire. No matter what she went on, people were like, this sucks. Right. The only thing that she did that was pretty good was the Brett Buyer thing on Fox.
Alex Media
I think the call of Dad.
Akash Singh
I like the call of daddy, to be honest. I thought in moment. I'm not. I wasn't like completely floored or whatever, but there were moments where I was like, that was really thoughtful and it was a unique way of answering question. That question that didn't sound like a robot was answering it.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Akash Singh
And that was maybe I was looking for very little. I saw that. To your point, I would say not having time. You had ample opportunity to Joe. To do Joe Rogan and said, oh, you need to come to me, and I only give you an hour. And then these liberal idiots were like, why won't Joe do that? Joe is Oprah. This day and age, if George W. Bush is running in 2000 and says, I want to be president, Oprah, but I'm not coming to Chicago, you come to Texas and I give you 20 minutes, Oprah says, suck my dick, motherfucker. I'm not doing that. And we all got it. Joe got it. You want to be president. You don't talk about 90 days. What you had. You needed a day, three hours. Go to Rogan. You were campaigning right next door. Go to Rogan.
Andrew Schulz
It's fine. It's fine.
Alex Media
I hear what she's saying, bro, but it's.
Andrew Schulz
It's fine.
Alex Media
It's still something.
Akash Singh
You can't cop. We can't cop. Please.
Andrew Schulz
Well, that's what people are going to do, because they don't want to acknowledge, like, what just happened. They don't want reality. It's gonna. There's gonna be some people that I think will move on from this and be like, hey, the Democratic Party did not address the needs of the people. That's why the people overwhelmingly rejected them. And hopefully the people that are thinking that are the people in control of the Democratic Party, because I don't think anything would make us happier. Think about this right now. Like, everybody's looking at Trump, right? As if he's like this big, bad Republican. Who is surrounding Trump right now. Tell me his team.
Akash Singh
Elon.
Andrew Schulz
Democrat. RFK is a. Was a lifelong Democrat. Who else?
Mark Gagnon
Tulsi.
Andrew Schulz
Democrat. Who else? Vivek. Democrat. Who else?
Akash Singh
I don't know if Vivek was a Democrat.
Andrew Schulz
I thought he was a. I thought he was a lifelong Democrat.
Akash Singh
Not that I know of politics.
Andrew Schulz
Okay.
Akash Singh
But either way, My point is. My point.
Andrew Schulz
And who has got Kamala's back?
Akash Singh
Oh, my God.
Andrew Schulz
Say, get the out of here. My point is you have.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, Obama Michelle.
Andrew Schulz
I mean, Obama Michelle is a different thing. They are the institution of the Democratic Party. Divak did vote for Obama, he admitted, and he was a libertarian. But the point that I'm trying to make is that she is the representative of the institution, and the institution wasn't meeting the demands of the people. I mean, the Democrats haven't won an election in the last 20 years. There wasn't Obama or Obama's VP. Think about that. Like, we're really just voting for Obama. And she was too Derivative. That's how much we love Obama. We're like, if you're close enough to Obama, we'll vote for you. Hillary, you weren't close enough. Matter of fact, I think you went after him a little bit.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
So we remember that shit. So I just don't think Democrats met the people. And the reality is those people that are surrounding Trump right now are these homeless Democrats, these lifelong Democrats, like many of us lifelong Democrats that feel like the party has left us.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Those are the people. I mean, look at. It's like a perfect metaphor for what's happening right now in America. Those people right there going, all right, I'm going to ride with this guy, because he at least sees what's happening, and he sees that the left has gone too far. And you know what? They went there and they were called pariahs. They're called assholes. They're called every name out of the book. And the rest of America, the majority went, now we feel that way, too. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
The Dick Cheney and Liz Cheney endorsement, like, the fact that she touted it was such a strategic error.
Andrew Schulz
Nuclear bomb. But I don't understand why the name Cheney. Yeah. I mean, is. I don't know if there's a worse name in politics.
Mark Gagnon
I saw an interesting tweet when he left as VP, he had, like, a 16% approval rating.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
Which is the same as Nixon. And this would be the equivalent of, like, Clinton running, being like, oh, I got Nixon's endorsement, guys. You should vote for me. It's like. It's crazy.
Akash Singh
And then Dave Smith posted a clip, and this is just, again, legacy media and, like, us not believing it. A clip of Whoopi saying to Liz Cheney on the View, you should be Attorney General. I just think you're awesome. And we're like, what the fuck is people seeing? Like, this is insane. Right. Watching legacy media say Liz Cheney should, hey, let's put another Cheney in a high position because we trust him.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Akash Singh
Like so. Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
So let's look back at this. This is a kind of interesting thing. Obviously, we witnessed something pretty. Pretty profound that's happened. Whether you like it or not. I hope we're all in this position right now where we want it to work out.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
You know, there was a great moment when Chappelle was doing snl.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
I think after Trump won the first time.
Akash Singh
Yes.
Andrew Schulz
And he was like, I'm rooting for you, and I hope it works out. And it was this beautiful moment. Yeah.
Akash Singh
I hope you give us the same chance. I'm giving You.
Andrew Schulz
Yes. And it was a beautiful. It was like. It was really. It was so mature.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
It's so easy to be like angry and come up with excuses. And all of a sudden, none of that's going to stop what's going on.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Right now we gotta hope that the best years of America are in front of us.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And I hope that this is the golden age once again of America. Like, I don't think anything would make Americans happier if this wasn't the next golden age that we walked right into. Right now, coming up into this election, I think we can all agree that we're in an all time low confidence in the institutions in America. Right.
Akash Singh
We didn't see in our lifetime for sure.
Alex Media
I think that's why she lost. And I think the biggest reason why she lost is she didn't do a good enough job of showing that she will be changed.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
She didn't.
Akash Singh
That's the business actually said people are.
Alex Media
Unhappy and she's more of this.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
They wanted to change president.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
And they said, would you have done anything different than Biden?
Andrew Schulz
She goes, no, that's the biggest. What are we doing?
Mark Gagnon
And I think the economic element of that I don't think can be understated.
Andrew Schulz
Which is the change that you want to experience is an economic one. And she's basically saying, I don't think he did anything wrong.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
You're sitting at home going, well, I can't afford food anymore.
Mark Gagnon
More than the social issues, personally, like, maybe those things factor in. But I do think the idea of people being like, bread is this expensive and I gotta buy and whatever you're.
Alex Media
Mad about, whether it's bread, whether it's migrants, whether it's reproductive rights, like, anything bad that happened in the last four, if you don't distance yourself away from that, what that person is mad about, you're the reason for it.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
And I saw interesting analysis, like Obama's election ads, like the ones that he paid for in commerce, and they did an analysis between them and the majority of his were economic. It's like, hey, we're going to fix this. He's coming out of the recession. And then even with his second term, the economy is not fixed perfectly. But he's like, look, we need to change this. They showed Gretchen Whitmer when she was running that she was like, look, inflation is crazy.
Andrew Schulz
Da, da, da, da.
Mark Gagnon
And then while Kamala's running, like, there's all these pieces done by these Democratic political writers being like, guys, the economy is actually great. And they're like, gaslighting the general public and being like, guys, whatever you're feeling is actually not true. And whether or not things actually are on the numbers, people feel like it's not.
Andrew Schulz
You have to address.
Mark Gagnon
And they neglect the feeling. And as a result, it doesn't matter what it actually is. It's how people feel. And people in the middle of country that feel like, oh, this is not going well. Inflation's going crazy. The fact that she neglected that and then was going hard, and they even did, like, political polling in, like, Pennsylvania being, like, going at Democrats being, okay, which one of these campaign slogans resonates the most with you? It was economic policies resonating the most, and then Trump being a threat to democracy resonating the least. And then looking at Kamala's campaign things, it was like, 30% was Trump is a threat to democracy. 30% is, like, abortion and social issues. And then, like, a tiny little fraction, like, 5 to 10% was economic. And so she didn't distance herself from the current economic system and then kind of went too wide with all these other issues, whereas Trump is just like, hey, we'll fix the economy. I'm a business guy. Da, da, da, da. I think Trump is generally beatable from a lot of other Democratic candidates. I think they could have run people. I don't think he's, like, an unbeatable guy. I mean, Biden beat him, and Pete.
Akash Singh
Would have killed him.
Mark Gagnon
And so with that being said, it's like they just ran a bad person too late with a bad strategy.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, I'm trying to think. I don't know who beats him, honestly. I think that. I think Pete is incredibly astute and charming and eloquent. There is a pathway to him becoming president, and he just has to say that he's the top. I know it sounds crazy. I know it sounds crazy, but if.
Akash Singh
He said this before.
Andrew Schulz
Oh, no, no, no.
Akash Singh
He's my set on Patreon. He's not Gay for the Top.
Andrew Schulz
Well, I think America would be like, yeah, all right, whatever. Yeah, I genuinely. But the idea that, like, he's getting bent over with his back arched and his boyfriend is, like, having his fingers in his mouth and pulling them.
Mark Gagnon
Like, what the.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, that's what you guys are going to be thinking about in the booth.
Mark Gagnon
What the.
Andrew Schulz
When you're filling out your affidavits, that's what's going to be.
Mark Gagnon
And you kind of lean over to vote, too. Like, you're kind of bent over a little.
Andrew Schulz
Like you're Kind of over your shoulder.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
So if he's a top, I think he could definitely win. And it sucks. Isn't that a shame?
Akash Singh
But he can be top. There's a 50% chance. Really.
Andrew Schulz
And honestly, I don't know if Trump could beat a man.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
So far it's only beaten women the fuck out of yo.
Andrew Schulz
He destroyed women. So no woman ever run against fucking Trump.
Akash Singh
Yeah. I was thinking this because people were saying, like, it's just sad that people don't care about women's rights and blah, blah, blah. I think when you go into the voting booth, if you got kids and you are hurting financially, it's like, hey, man, all that shit sucks, but this is kill. I need to feed my kids and that's all that's going to matter. I do still think so many of this could have. So much of this could have been fixed campaign wise. Like, instead of saying, hey, I wouldn't have distanced anything from Biden. You know what? We definitely didn't do anything perfect. You want to sell him out? Great. Well, you know, Biden and I did everything together. We're a team.
Andrew Schulz
Sell his ass out.
Akash Singh
We made some mistakes from it.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Alex Media
He wouldn't even know you were selling him out.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Akash Singh
This is also funny that Biden called.
Andrew Schulz
Me the N word.
Mark Gagnon
That's what I would say on day one.
Andrew Schulz
It's about the win.
Akash Singh
I vote for Biden again.
Andrew Schulz
Y. I thought we for B. Let him run again. No, let him walk up the stairs.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Honestly, we talk about this strategy as if there's not like it's one person making the decision. There's hundreds of billions of dollars behind. Behind each of these decisions. So for y'all to up this hard is insane to me. For you to not understand the. The reach of podcasts, you're not just Kamala Harris.
Andrew Schulz
They understood it. They didn't want the risk. That's what I think it is. And they didn't want her to be exposed.
Alex Media
Not her risk. High reward.
Akash Singh
Yeah, that's.
Andrew Schulz
But Trump's not worried. But Trump's not worried about it. But you know what I mean? Like, he's like, I can handle this. I'm used to people saying the worst possible thing about me for the last fucking eight years. It doesn't even matter. So whereas, comma, they basically, they had to protect her a little bit. You know, is what it is.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Okay.
Alex Media
So moving forward, you asked in the group chat, what day was it? Like a big Sunday or Monday like we thought would win. And I was. I Think I was the only one, Trump? Because I just felt the climate, like, I've never seen this much excitement for Trump.
Mark Gagnon
You wore your red hat today.
Andrew Schulz
Respect. Fuck it. Respect that.
Mark Gagnon
Come on. That's a cigarette.
Akash Singh
You did wear the red hat.
Alex Media
I'm about unity, guys.
Andrew Schulz
Now, here's the thing. We're on the road every weekend before shows. I. I did tell you guys, don't do this.
Alex Media
Seriously.
Akash Singh
Oh, my God.
Andrew Schulz
I told you guys. I go. I go. It's going to be a mauling. There's no way that he loses.
Mark Gagnon
You said that.
Andrew Schulz
I cut. Now, let me tell you real quick. I'm on the road every weekend for shows.
Akash Singh
Read the text.
Andrew Schulz
I come back and I go. I go, I think it's going to be a mauling. I don't see how he could win. Energy.
Akash Singh
Were you on the road this weekend?
Andrew Schulz
No.
Akash Singh
Where were you performing?
Andrew Schulz
I was in the city the night before, and I foolishly decided to ask some audience members who they were voting for and why.
Mark Gagnon
Which audience member?
Andrew Schulz
Some women spoke back. Weird. And they.
Akash Singh
Not anymore.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, those days are done. But so basically they spoke back and, you know, it seemed like they were really perturbed about the Roe v. Wade ruling. What was that? Perturbed?
Mark Gagnon
No, that was the abortion thing.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So. And here's the reality, if we just want to talk about it.
Akash Singh
Talk about it.
Andrew Schulz
You know what I mean? These women, man, they. Can I be honest with you?
Akash Singh
Please, Can I be.
Andrew Schulz
No, no. It's not even that crazy thing. I think that there are women who will never get an abortion in their life that still don't like the idea that something was taken away from them. And abortion is like their guns. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's just like, we were allowed to do it, and now we're not allowed to.
Akash Singh
Abortion is their guns. Is actually a fire gun.
Andrew Schulz
It's actually a fire point.
Akash Singh
Thank you. You thought Kamal was going to win because you asked a comedy audience in New York City.
Andrew Schulz
I didn't think she was gonna win. I didn't think she was.
Akash Singh
They said kamala, and you were like.
Andrew Schulz
I didn't think she was gonna win.
Alex Media
Wow.
Andrew Schulz
This is America. I didn't think she was gonna win.
Akash Singh
The comedy seller, Saturday Night.
Andrew Schulz
It was a Monday.
Mark Gagnon
It was a Monday.
Andrew Schulz
It was a Monday. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something.
Akash Singh
You should get a job on Com.
Andrew Schulz
Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. This is why. This is what I realized I don't talk to women, okay? I have a wife. I talk to her when I'm done talking to her. I'm not trying to hear these.
Akash Singh
You know what I mean?
Andrew Schulz
I got all my talking right there, okay? She didn't talk to me enough about this Roe v. Wade thing, you know, I didn't get a. I didn't get enough Roe v. Wade information for her, you know, she's busy trying to book a trip to Paris. That don't seem very Roe v. Wade, does it?
Akash Singh
Busy having a baby.
Andrew Schulz
You know what I mean? You know what I mean? We, we're, you know, holding this beautiful child.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
If she got pregnant again, it's a blessing. Yeah, it's a blessing. Okay. Akash, why are you looking? You don't even know what happened with Roe v. Wade. You don't even know what happened with Roe v. Wade, do you? Knew it. Do you know? Would you want to know?
Akash Singh
I do want to know.
Andrew Schulz
Do you want to know what happened?
Akash Singh
Tell me, please. I'm dying to know. I had no idea anything happened.
Andrew Schulz
Do you think that she had the baby or not?
Akash Singh
Yo, I think she did have the baby. Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
All this hoopla for nothing. All this hoopla for nothing.
Akash Singh
Hey, whatever happened to that baby? Do we ever find out?
Andrew Schulz
His name is Donald H. What an origin story. What a fucking origin story. The boy who lives. Nah, nah. She ended up having a baby, right?
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, I think so. I gotta double check, but I'm pretty.
Andrew Schulz
Sure row or wait.
Mark Gagnon
Oh yeah, there you go.
Andrew Schulz
So talk that shit.
Mark Gagnon
The woman had the baby in 1970. But she wanted an abortion. But she was forced to have the child.
Andrew Schulz
We need to talk up to this kid. I mean imagine the trauma.
Akash Singh
She was born in Dallas, yo.
Andrew Schulz
Of course she was.
Akash Singh
Hey, we didn't want that shit to happen.
Andrew Schulz
What do you mean?
Akash Singh
Texas, a very anti abortion place.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, but you are very getting nutted in place. Girls in Texas like to get calmed in. Is that a thing? Dude, everybody knows that. This is one of the things that we would talk about amongst comedians on the road. We were like, you gotta be careful about Texas. These girls like it and comedian a lot. I don't know if it's the illegals. I truly don't know the reason but maybe it's something to do with the weather or the food even. But they love, they love that closeness, they love that proximity and they love the jizz.
Mark Gagnon
Apparently she's living in New Mexico, I think.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, yeah.
Mark Gagnon
They asked her in 2021, she said, I'm Neither pro choice nor pro life.
Andrew Schulz
The daughter.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, I didn't know that was an option.
Akash Singh
Yeah, crazy option.
Andrew Schulz
I mean, if you're the daughter, you, you gotta be like, phew, right? Like, you gotta be like a little anti abortion.
Mark Gagnon
She grew up not knowing that she was the baby until her birth mother appeared on the Today show in 89.
Alex Media
Oh, what an unless that life is. And she's like. Like, I could have lived without this.
Akash Singh
Yeah, yeah, that's what it seems. Like that's what it seems.
Andrew Schulz
That's heartbreaking.
Akash Singh
She finds out her mom on a talk show didn't tell her.
Andrew Schulz
Bro, imagine she committed suicide. Come on, man. Imagine she committed. The latest tournament shows up like, I could have done this for you, bro. Did you hear about the woman that.
Mark Gagnon
Went in that suicide chamber? Do you hear about. This is like, they have like the euthanasia chambers and some girl went into it, like, did the first successful, like euthanasia. And then they looked at the body. There's like strangle marks. Her neck, apparently.
Andrew Schulz
In that pot in the woods just has someone else in there. That just strangles the life out of you, chokes you out. That's disgusting.
Mark Gagnon
But now they're looking into it. They think it might be foul play, that someone killed someone and put them in there. They're like, no, she killed herself. Crazy. I don't know all the details.
Akash Singh
That makes a lot more sense than you go to a pod and the guy walks out.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, yeah. It's more like diy. It's more like a DIY euthanasia chamber.
Andrew Schulz
Mark, this is terrifying. Not in Trump's America. Not in Trump's America would have this kind of stuff.
Akash Singh
So what are we. What are we getting? Because I do think we swung. We were the beginning.
Andrew Schulz
American golden age.
Akash Singh
No, I mean, what are we getting?
Andrew Schulz
The American.
Akash Singh
The tipping point. I believe this.
Andrew Schulz
Before we get into that, can we just talk about, like what we hope to see the next four years in America? Right. What we would like in an ideal world. They put Roe v. Wade back on. Turn that back on. Flip that one.
Akash Singh
He's. He gets to replace two Supreme Court justices. Probably he might pick two people that are low key.
Andrew Schulz
Pro.
Akash Singh
Pro choice.
Andrew Schulz
Exactly.
Akash Singh
Because I, I don't think he was pro. I think he just wanted to win the election.
Andrew Schulz
I don't think about the deal with that. Are they.
Mark Gagnon
Are we banking on these people?
Akash Singh
I think two might retire just because. Let me. This is what the Democrats didn't do. Let me just get out now in case I die and there's a Democrat in office, and then we could lose our seats. Democrats are selfish, corrupt, and they're. Ruth. Big LBG was like, I'll just die. And women in the future. But I think two, the conservative ones might be like, let's just get out while the getting is good. And he can appoint two conservative people in my place.
Mark Gagnon
I understand.
Andrew Schulz
So. But he's still got to get him past the Senate. In the Senate, they won't step down unless they know who is putting in place, and they have to be. Yeah, okay. But basically, I think the smart move would be to protect Roe v. Wade.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And make an effort to protect it. And don't do this thing where you're just like, well, I'm gonna let the states decide. No. Federally protect it. I think that's what the majority of Americans would want right now.
Alex Media
What makes you think he's gonna do that?
Andrew Schulz
Is it wishful thinking? Yeah. When they say they're gonna take inflation down, we go like, holy hope. You know what I mean? None of them know how to do it. Okay, but, like, this is what you would like.
Mark Gagnon
Someone wins president in eighth grade, you're like, I'm gonna make the soda in the water.
Alex Media
So, reparations, guys.
Mark Gagnon
Should we do reparations for all disenfranchised people?
Akash Singh
No.
Andrew Schulz
Why? No. Us first.
Mark Gagnon
Let's do gay reparations first.
Akash Singh
They got the most money anyway.
Mark Gagnon
No gay reparations, bro.
Akash Singh
I'm out.
Andrew Schulz
All the gay people that I'm out.
Mark Gagnon
Think about all the Broadway shows that didn't happen that they could have got paid for. That's what I'm saying, bro. Let's do gay reparations. We'll do black reparations.
Andrew Schulz
All right, guys, listen. Probably at some point in this episode, I'm not exactly sure when we talked about the election, how Trump waxed that ass.
Akash Singh
You could have bet on it.
Andrew Schulz
Could have been on it. You could have went with steak. You could have been. You could have put your money where your mouth was. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
In the mouth.
Andrew Schulz
Did I do it? Did I bet on it?
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Yep. No, I didn't.
Akash Singh
No, you. Yep. Because you knew, based on your shows, as a comedy seller, how things are going to go.
Andrew Schulz
You're 100% right about that. But the point is, you can bet on really, almost anything. I mean, steak is the leader in global betting and US Social casinos. Really? I don't even know what a US Social casino is. Do you? I don't know.
Mark Gagnon
Social casino. Gamble your friendship.
Akash Singh
It's a legal casino, is what it is.
Andrew Schulz
That really what it is?
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
We need to get to the bottom of that immediately. Jamil, I don't think that people really know what a US Social casino is.
Akash Singh
Why don't they find out at stake? Steak.com.
Andrew Schulz
Steak.Com. Listen, if you use the promo code flagrant, you're going to get a welcome bonus.
Akash Singh
Welcome.
Andrew Schulz
That shit is almost as nice as a gift basket. But I'm serious, there's. There, There are things that we could be gambling on. Will the Democrats storm the Capitol? Yes, please. Yeah. Will they do it? Pussy hats, blue hair, busting down the doors January 6th.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Who wants to get hit in the head with this shield? All right, all right, all right, listen, we got to get back to the show. But listen, let's all hang out the social casino later. Let's get back to the show, man. Okay. No, in all seriousness, what do we hope happens? There's been talk about Elon getting involved and, you know, what is it? The agency of efficiency. Right. And cutting a lot of the bloat in government.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Do we think that that is a good idea?
Akash Singh
What would that look like a great idea? If anything gets done on that front, it'd be a win. But I think it's going to be hard to get a single thing done on that front.
Andrew Schulz
I think the problem is with, like, a lot of these organizations is a government organization will come up and they'll come up and. In support of fixing a real problem.
Akash Singh
Yep.
Andrew Schulz
Let's say that problem is cats getting in trees. Right. And they. That agency, you know, lobbies to get some laws passed to make trees. You know, make the trees all be covered in, you know, steel so the cats can't climb them or whatever. All the trees are covered in steel. Cats can't climb the trees. We've solved the problem. Okay. I like it. I like it. I'm trying to speak. Laughing at my metaphor. That actually, actually taps into the heartstrings of American. Okay, thank you, Al. 20, 25. The cats. Okay? You wrap the steel around the trees, all right? Especially the willows and the oaks. And. And when the willows and oaks are completely wrapped, the cats cannot climb up there.
Akash Singh
Why didn't you just go with homelessness?
Andrew Schulz
It's too real. Cats for people. It's too real for people. It's too painful. It's just a few syllables.
Akash Singh
It's not a whole.
Andrew Schulz
Okay. Anyway, I think I've got a great solution to ca trees, by the way, and nobody's talking about it. I need a little. A little bit of Credit for this. Okay? Think about how many people lose their cat in a tree and they just got to sit there until it runs out of energy and falls down.
Akash Singh
They solve homelessness.
Andrew Schulz
You know what? You know what, America.
Mark Gagnon
Come on.
Andrew Schulz
So they. They solve the problem. Now, do all those people that work at the Cats in the Trees Problem Agency, do they immediately retire after they come up with a genius solution? This genius solution. Steel around.
Akash Singh
No, kid still got purpose.
Andrew Schulz
K got on purpose. So what do they do? Trans rights. See, don't just let me cook. I get there. Always.
Alex Media
Al believes in me.
Andrew Schulz
Let me cook. I get there. Chef Boyar Salty in the building. Yeah, but okay, so the point is, so they find another cause and the causes get more and more extreme and they get more and more ridiculous. But I have empathy for these people. Right. These people are working. They solve the job, and they're like, well, I'm not gonna fucking retire and go find another job. This is where I work. Some of these organizations, I'm sure, are doing things that are in the level of necessity, very similar to kitpa. And they can fucking get snipped.
Mark Gagnon
Absolutely. Certainly there's waste in the institutions, and you just hope that they're able to strategically and surgically cut out the waste and the blow without.
Andrew Schulz
Like, that Nobody understands. Yes. When you say it like me, they're like, yo, we got to fucking wrap steel around trees because cats are getting stuck up their organization. Get rid of it.
Alex Media
As much as a genius as Elon is, does he do it strategically because he went into Twitter, cut like 70 to 80% of the staff.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Alex Media
And Twitter's still down like 80% of his value since he's taken over, but.
Akash Singh
Yeah, but that's perception based. And I'm okay with cutting a lot of government jobs. Like Vivek said, you cut a little muscle, that's all right with me. You save a lot of fun.
Andrew Schulz
What is that famous saying? Cut my life into pieces. This is my last word.
Mark Gagnon
Suffocation. No breathing. Honestly, a great counterpoint.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, Sadhguru said that. So I think. I think.
Mark Gagnon
Why is he so sad?
Andrew Schulz
It is a little bit obnoxious.
Akash Singh
You're not doing your job. If you're a sad guru, you should be enlightened.
Andrew Schulz
Biden talk that.
Akash Singh
Yeah, that's the whole point. Yeah. I'm only gonna accept it. In Trump's America.
Andrew Schulz
If mud beat paper, we would be.
Mark Gagnon
That's a sick name for the gang, bro. Dude, Muds and Crips, that's what it's all about.
Andrew Schulz
You know, the Muds and the Crips.
Akash Singh
I kind of like it.
Andrew Schulz
That is kind of cool. All right, in all seriousness, what can we expect for America?
Akash Singh
Jesus, I can say it now.
Andrew Schulz
Why?
Akash Singh
Trump won.
Andrew Schulz
That's right. We back. Let's go. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No.
Alex Media
One.
Andrew Schulz
Heaven. What else can we expect for America? Obviously, abortions can a comeback.
Akash Singh
Yep, yep. You've been right about every abortion date you've had.
Andrew Schulz
When abortion comes back. When abortion comes back. Ladies, stop being so cavalier about it.
Akash Singh
That is important.
Andrew Schulz
Yo, because we had abortion. And then Lena Dunham was out there like, yo, one of my greatest regrets is I ain't getting abortion. First of all, that's not totally up to you. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? That pull out game was on Usain Bolt. That was stroking her down, dude.
Mark Gagnon
She could have got a donor. She could have got a sperm donor.
Andrew Schulz
Just a scoop. That's. You are diabolical. You are diabolical, Mark.
Mark Gagnon
Well, did you buy the trans person try to transition to get an abortion?
Andrew Schulz
Mark, Mark take his new tonic right now. Mark is on some wild right now. His noose is in one hand, new tonic in the other is going on here. Dude, you know Mark voted for Trump 13 times.
Alex Media
He voted here and Florida.
Andrew Schulz
No, no, no. Good. What is this crazy story?
Mark Gagnon
There's a trans person tried to transition. Be the first trans person to get an abortion.
Andrew Schulz
When are they on camp? Come on.
Mark Gagnon
That's a good idea.
Andrew Schulz
When are they on camp?
Akash Singh
I've been reaching out for weeks. I want to go watch.
Mark Gagnon
I've been reaching out for weeks, bro.
Andrew Schulz
I watch that episode. Responded. Okay. Responded. It's a. It's a woman that's transitioning into a man.
Mark Gagnon
A man transitioned to a woman to.
Andrew Schulz
Get an abortion and then get a.
Mark Gagnon
Uterus put in and then get a baby in the.
Andrew Schulz
You can't put a uterus in.
Akash Singh
Yeah. What?
Mark Gagnon
You're so small minded.
Andrew Schulz
I'm not small minded. I just know for a fact you can't put it. I mean, you can put it in there, it's just gonna float around.
Mark Gagnon
You don't catch a rocket on chopstick. You can't put a uterus inside a dude.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
Come on.
Andrew Schulz
Catching a rocket with chopstick is easily. You just need to make a machine that goes like that.
Akash Singh
They are kind of chopsticks. If you think about it kind of already chopsticks.
Andrew Schulz
It's really not that hard. It's just man, you don't think we've made machines go dead? Come on. There's one guy in the booth and he just hits a button and it goes dead. And people acting like this is the greatest invention of all time. Yeah. No, what you just said to me is insane. Putting a uterus inside of a man for the sole purpose of getting pregnant and then having an abortion. Yeah. Wow.
Akash Singh
Wow.
Andrew Schulz
Okay.
Akash Singh
The real thing that's happening.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
No, it's not.
Mark Gagnon
It's not a real thing. It's one person on the Internet, that's one kooky mongoloid.
Andrew Schulz
One kooky mongoloid is going to try to do this and then cause a big stir. But not in Trump's America anymore. All right, guys, let's take a break for a second. Listen, sober October is officially over.
Mark Gagnon
Yes.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, yeah.
Akash Singh
There you go.
Andrew Schulz
Basically, what happened was we recorded our whoop scores. I won by unanimous decision. That's not true. In Donald Trump's America, I won by. Won the Electoral College. There was no voter fraud. I won the Electoral College. I thwarted all of the, you know, liberal things. And basically what's happening now is that my sleep score is absolutely incredible. I've had zero alcohol consumption in the last 30 days, and I've been getting along with my wife a lot better. Turns out when you don't drink alcohol and you sleep a lot more, your marriage is. Is essentially fixed. It's perfect.
Alex Media
Wow.
Andrew Schulz
I would look at my HR score. Is that it? Yeah, yeah, that's the hrv.
Mark Gagnon
Harvard variability. That's correct.
Andrew Schulz
I would look up my HRV score.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
When I would get bricked and I would throw it in the waistband. Packing, concealed. Only semi concealed, to be honest with you, because if I had to lift something high off a shelf, you would see my dick tip popping out over my belt buckle. Whoops.
Mark Gagnon
That's what I call it.
Akash Singh
There it is.
Andrew Schulz
Whoops. It's really the reason why they call it whoops. Right. Because you're reaching for the healthy cereal. Oh, dick tip popped up because my HRV is phenomenal. My blood flow is crazy. My dick has grown 2 to 3 inches minimum. Point is, you can see what kind of improvements in your health that you can make for yourself. Join the challenge and sign up@join whoop.com flagrant and one lucky winner will win a gift basket. Yeah, flagrant. Yo, that gift basketball, it comes right back to you. It's crazy. A lot of people don't know that I actually know how to.
Akash Singh
Oh, nice snag, dog. That's what I Do.
Andrew Schulz
I'm the Silver Surfer. The point that I'm trying to make here is. Come on, guys. Come on. It's November. We're drinking again. Yes, but we're still whooping. Yeah. Join Da Whoop.com Flagrance and you will get a gift. Whoop.
Mark Gagnon
Condom, bro.
Andrew Schulz
Let's get back to the show.
Akash Singh
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Andrew Schulz
You're wrong.
Akash Singh
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Mark Gagnon
What about foreign wars? Can we end those?
Andrew Schulz
You know, you already saw it happen. Day one.
Akash Singh
What happened?
Andrew Schulz
The Houthis. You know who they are?
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Rwanda, Yemen.
Akash Singh
The Houthis and Tootsus.
Andrew Schulz
No, no, that's a Tootsies, okay, The Houthis, okay? They're in Yemen. And they day one were like, yo, my bad.
Akash Singh
Oh, word.
Andrew Schulz
Day one they said, my bad.
Akash Singh
Choppy bringing the ruckus to these folks. Dude, you gotta, you gotta admit it. He'd be shutting them up.
Mark Gagnon
Wait, what did they actually say?
Andrew Schulz
They said my. I don't know how they pronounce it.
Mark Gagnon
What does that translate to in Arabic?
Andrew Schulz
They're like our operations in. In the waters off. Because they basically target ships that are passing and hijacking and doing all the things. And now all of a sudden it's all good. Now it's all good because they Iran.
Alex Media
They need to be worried. E O. Cuz didn't he thinks they try to take him out, right? Oh, yeah, that's the first, people, I'm getting my. Get back on.
Akash Singh
Let's go get our corners. Doug, what about.
Mark Gagnon
What about Russia, Ukraine? He's gonna.
Andrew Schulz
He. That's just done.
Mark Gagnon
He said he would stop that.
Andrew Schulz
That's over immediately. That's over immediately.
Akash Singh
What about these Jews?
Andrew Schulz
I mean, if it. If there is any. If there's any justification or reason why I would think that they're very happy. It's the fact that I didn't want to go to 58th street to that polling station. And Tanya goes, I'll drive you. So I think we know what side the Jews are on in this.
Mark Gagnon
Oh, that's. Are they banning tik tok?
Andrew Schulz
Oh, yes. No. Why not? You don't have to do that now.
Akash Singh
It's Chinese tik tok on it. Buy a TikTok.
Andrew Schulz
No, no, no, no. I think TikTok's fine.
Mark Gagnon
Even if it's controlled by a Chinese government.
Alex Media
Yeah.
Akash Singh
What's your deal, dude?
Andrew Schulz
Well, okay, my honest answer is Trump is already elected. He can't win reelection, so he's not really worried about that. So he's like, all right, do whatever you want. Like, you can. You can influence the next election, but it's not going to be me involved. So I don't go, fuck. That's my perception. I think TikTok, in terms of influencing election that he's involved in is way more concerning for him than the following election. Election. And I think by the next election, he's like, I'm 82. If my kids aren't running, which I don't think any of them will, is like, yeah, I don't think. I don't know how involved he's going to be, but I can't imagine it's going to be that.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
What about all the tweets? I've seen people say, like, oh, America's over. This guy's going to take Project 2025. He's going to destroy the country.
Akash Singh
No, I don't think he's into Project 2025. I don't think he. I'm not saying everything he said was honest, but I didn't believe. I believed him when he said, I got nothing to do with that. That was one thing I believe.
Andrew Schulz
Believed.
Akash Singh
I didn't believe him when he told me, I'm gonna dial back the rhetoric, Dad. I have a hard time believing. But when he was like that, because that just doesn't sound like his at all. And he doesn't seem like he is gonna do something because they tell him to. Either part. Anybody?
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Akash Singh
He's like, you're not gonna tell me what to do, no matter what fucking who you are. I don't care. I'm gonna do what I want to do. You're gonna try to push a little shit on me. It's not gonna happen.
Andrew Schulz
Now. Now I. Now there's a part of me that goes like, he might look back and see, FDR got three terms.
Akash Singh
No, that might happen.
Andrew Schulz
Somebody just that FDR got three terms. Because it's very possible Trump has no clue FDR was in there for three terms. But once he finds that shit out there. Oh, hold on, hold on, hold on. The fuck did that legless dude get to do three terms? I'm definitely running back for one more. Bloomberg got an extra term when he was Mayor Bloomberg.
Akash Singh
We should run that back. To be honest with you.
Andrew Schulz
Of course, I'm so There is a world where that happens, and I would be super against that. I would be so against that. That would be the worst part. No, no, in all seriousness, in all seriousness, I'd be very much against, against that. And I think that is, that would be cause for concern. But I don't think he'll go after that. Genuinely. I, I, I genuinely don't think it. I genuinely don't think it. Well, they wrote an amendment against it after fdr. Right. So there was no rule before that? I don't think so.
Mark Gagnon
There wasn't.
Andrew Schulz
There was no term.
Akash Singh
It was like an unspoken thing. Like you just generally did.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, because George Washington. W. So he did too.
Andrew Schulz
So everybody said. You're right.
Mark Gagnon
That's why I call him George Duffy. Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
So. So he did too. Therefore, other people can do too. Yeah.
Akash Singh
And he didn't. I think he intentionally didn't run a third time.
Andrew Schulz
How much fun was having slaves that he was like, I'm tired of being President.
Akash Singh
I'm not seeing the correlation.
Andrew Schulz
I mean, I don't.
Akash Singh
I'm sure it was fun.
Andrew Schulz
No correlation.
Akash Singh
I'm sure it wasn't boring.
Andrew Schulz
He left the presidency to go own his slaves.
Akash Singh
He can do both.
Andrew Schulz
No, he couldn't.
Akash Singh
If you're a president, you just kind of all. You just have slaves everywhere.
Andrew Schulz
No, you couldn't. He couldn't do it the way he wanted to. He couldn't do it the way he wanted. No, no, no, no. George Washington.
Alex Media
George Washington.
Andrew Schulz
George Washington. Like, he had to be in there signing documents all fucking day, and he's looking at the field. He's like, you think once Abe lost.
Akash Singh
His slaves, he was like, somebody put a bullet in my head.
Mark Gagnon
Apparently that's why George Washington left. I talked to a guy, he's like, yeah, he's like a huge land speculator, had so much money, he's like the wealthiest guy. When he left presidency, to this day, he's like the richest president.
Andrew Schulz
Okay, so when I said it, oh, there's no correlation. It doesn't make any sense. Sense. And then when Mark speculation and all these other.
Akash Singh
Sense.
Andrew Schulz
You just said you guys hate real Americans. You guys hate real hardworking Americans. That's what it is. You're liberal, elitist. You're some champagne liberals. And when a real hardworking blue collar American like me comes home, you can't.
Akash Singh
Even put a tushy on your toilet.
Andrew Schulz
What's that?
Akash Singh
Bidet?
Mark Gagnon
Yeah. Because that's a gay thing to do.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
I'm not going to have something blue collar.
Akash Singh
That's the most blue collar dude going on with you. I'm just saying you can't install anything in your life.
Andrew Schulz
Can you acknowledge that was a horrible way to prove.
Akash Singh
There we go.
Mark Gagnon
This a for example.
Akash Singh
I stand by my point. That's a for example. I could have gone with a better thing. You couldn't build a shelf or something? Build a shelf. Would have been a change the oil in your car.
Andrew Schulz
Change the oil. Change the oil.
Akash Singh
Change. There's a lot of things. I just grab the first one.
Andrew Schulz
You can't even put foam on a macchiato. You call yourself blue collar.
Mark Gagnon
You can't assemble sh at all.
Andrew Schulz
Yo, I got so rich. It's unbelievable. It's crazy. This guy's so rich. Dude. What a rich guy you are.
Mark Gagnon
A lot of Indians came out for Trump. Do you think you had anything to do with it?
Akash Singh
Yeah, dude, I'm a hero over there.
Mark Gagnon
You're a glowing endorsement.
Andrew Schulz
I think I'm a hero over there. Yeah. What did Modi say? I'm going to be so angry.
Akash Singh
That was the most non racist Indian accent I've ever heard.
Andrew Schulz
It was Japanese. Japanese. That was the funny. Nobody caught on to that. Nobody caught on to that. He did a Japanese and we just sat there and pretended that he wasn't doing a Japanese accent. Oh, my God. He might not know that Modi's not Japanese.
Akash Singh
Oh, my God.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, he's Asian.
Andrew Schulz
Thanks. Okay, so we hope that Elon is involved. Yes.
Akash Singh
Yeah, sure.
Andrew Schulz
It's. It is interesting.
Alex Media
That worries me a little bit.
Andrew Schulz
Well, okay. I want to hear that perspective.
Alex Media
Just because of how like quick he is with his cuts. Like in a private sector, cool. But like with the government, so what it's yeah.
Andrew Schulz
So what he said was, I thought, quite interesting. He was like, we have to take care of these people. So I think what we should do is pay them two years of salary. Salary the day that we fire them. We don't want people to leave and then be homeless. We don't want people to leave and hurt. These are people. So he's like, let's pay them the two years of salary up front, and then they'll have two years to figure out the next thing they're going to do with their life. And these are people who obviously can hold a job. These are people who obviously are proficient at something, so they'll go help America in other ways and hold positions in other ways, but at least we won't be kicking them out the door. And then they're on their ass.
Alex Media
But then also, the way he's.
Akash Singh
Two years a little fucking crazy. Crazy. Two years. You get all midterm to figure out what you want to do. That's nuts, dude.
Andrew Schulz
You will leave my office right now.
Akash Singh
A year is more than enough.
Alex Media
Come on.
Andrew Schulz
So whatever they end up coming to, at least what I was saying is when he said that, I was like, okay, at least there's some compassion here, because I was concerned about that too. You have a friend who has a job that he's working for the government. And a lot of people, you. You remember this. Like, when you get a job working for the government, there is. There's this feeling like, okay, as long as I stick in this job for 25, 30 years, I'll be safe. I'll have my. What is it called? Pension. And, like, I'll be able to, like, retire and take care of my family.
Akash Singh
You rich?
Andrew Schulz
Don't even. We just never had a.
Akash Singh
One of them jobs where you get two years paid, like, paid severance.
Andrew Schulz
So it's. Two years is a lot, but have some compassion.
Akash Singh
A year is honestly too much, but you can have it.
Andrew Schulz
Akash is so, So I know this was almost poor. And he's like, yo, no, he was poor. I used to go to one of these government jobs.
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Akash Singh
You know what's so crazy? This group influenced the presidential election of 2024.
Andrew Schulz
Listen, don't even say influence. We. We decided we were the turning point. Just know. Just know. And we'll be left out of everything. And that's fine. We don't give a about the the credit. We. We know we do.
Alex Media
I don't need this credit.
Andrew Schulz
It's fine. We'll be left out. Everything is totally fine. It doesn't matter. That is the nature of things that we started. Everybody else does it in a But he was not up until this pod. True. After the pod, he surges. What, 3 or 4%?
Akash Singh
Yeah, it was a raptor.
Andrew Schulz
Never went back down after that. Okay, okay. Shout out my Samoans. Shout out my Maoris.
Mark Gagnon
Was that a haka?
Andrew Schulz
That was a haka.
Mark Gagnon
That's fine.
Andrew Schulz
I just did a haka. I just did a haka. I learned that one.
Mark Gagnon
The straightest haka ever.
Andrew Schulz
It was a really good haka.
Mark Gagnon
You ever seen a gay haka before?
Andrew Schulz
I have. Come on, dude. Come on. Is that disrespectful?
Mark Gagnon
I'm sorry.
Alex Media
They gonna hook you up for that.
Andrew Schulz
It's our culture and you go to Hawaii. All right, listen. What a election special. It is crazy that we had any influence at all.
Akash Singh
Yeah, it's really nuts. Dude, I texted you. That's the most insane ever. My wife looked at me at about 10pm she goes, you did this? Hey, we asked her to come on. Brown ain't want to come on.
Andrew Schulz
Why? She did. Why didn't she?
Akash Singh
I don't know.
Mark Gagnon
Is she going to be at the inauguration?
Andrew Schulz
Does she have to?
Mark Gagnon
As vp? She's got to be there.
Andrew Schulz
I don't even think she's conceded yet, Dick.
Mark Gagnon
Whoa, whoa.
Andrew Schulz
She's doing it 6pm today. We're recording this Wednesday. 4pm today. They moved it up. Yeah, unless they move it back.
Akash Singh
But she probably going to show up at 6. Minority ass.
Andrew Schulz
Yup, minority. I called her Brown. I never called bro with.
Akash Singh
She said brow brown.
Andrew Schulz
Do you guys think that plays a little part in like the success of white people around the world just being on time?
Akash Singh
No, I don't do.
Andrew Schulz
You don't think a little fashionably late.
Akash Singh
That's y'all. Is that like the thing now?
Andrew Schulz
No, no, no, no. We're on time, people.
Akash Singh
That's cuz you're not fashionable ever.
Andrew Schulz
The white. The whites are on time. The whites aren't.
Alex Media
You're never on time.
Andrew Schulz
Me?
Akash Singh
You were the last one hour.
Andrew Schulz
I'm not white. What are you orthodox? I am orthodox, you know.
Alex Media
Wait, but you guys aren't concerned at all with the way.
Akash Singh
In America, are you? Concerned about it?
Andrew Schulz
Oh, there's a sale in K. I don't care.
Alex Media
Wait, how you doing?
Andrew Schulz
I got a gay hog going to get us some out of here. Al is one amay sale away from not giving a about what happened in this election. Bro, put some on. 40% off for Al.
Alex Media
Send me the prepacks.
Andrew Schulz
No.
Alex Media
Okay. Nothing about.
Andrew Schulz
You brought. You brought it up.
Alex Media
I'm just asking because you see how Twitter is right now. I know it's coming.
Andrew Schulz
Well, how's Twitter right now.
Alex Media
Like, all the anti Semitic shit that you see.
Andrew Schulz
Anti Semitites, stalactites.
Alex Media
Miles, don't start. Miles, don't start.
Andrew Schulz
I'll send it your direction.
Akash Singh
Don't call Miles like that no more.
Andrew Schulz
You do whatever you want to do over there.
Akash Singh
Miles so happy.
Alex Media
Miles, text me. Bad lady's like, damn, we losing, right?
Andrew Schulz
Just goes wrong text. No, no, you. What were you saying? Why? There's a lot of anti Semitism. There's a lot of anti Semitism on.
Akash Singh
Are you concerned about racism or.
Andrew Schulz
No.
Alex Media
Elon. The way he slashes jobs. Like, he doesn't do it strategically.
Andrew Schulz
He's just like, what about anti Semitism?
Akash Singh
Yeah, what does that have to do with.
Alex Media
He broke Twitter in a way that Twitter's kind of wild now. Like, it's a little. It's not what you're saying.
Andrew Schulz
Twitter is wild. And that is the cost of free speech. And I think what's happening right now is basically people. People are so. So, like, you get a new car, right? You get a Ferrari. You want to drive as fast as it can go. That's what people are doing with free speech. Ideally, what happens is in the next year, two years, people start going, oh, you don't need to drive the car as fast every single time. And I think this would happen when, like, Sirius XM came around, remember, like, and you could curse on SiriusXM, and everybody was cursing. And then people start to realize, like, oh, it doesn't make it better that you can curse. You know, eventually you actually have to say things that are, like, thoughtful and interesting. So right now it's working that you could just be, you know, super racist or super anti semitic or super hateful. And I think eventually it just kind of calms down. That's my suspicion.
Alex Media
Part of the reason is because he slashed jobs by so much. And so some of the people that were like, would tame down that noise are no longer there.
Andrew Schulz
I don't believe that. I believe that he's committed to free speech, and unfortunately, free speech protects his hate speech.
Alex Media
All right, I think it's 70% drop in.
Akash Singh
No, I don't believe he's as altruistic as a lot of the right beliefs. I do believe there's some. He definitely wanted Trump to get elected. He want. He had his reasons. I wonder if it's because JD Vance seems to be in big tech's pocket. Like, Peter Thiel funded his whole presidential thing. I wonder if they're like, we can control that guy. That's one step away From Trump. Let's get Trump elected.
Andrew Schulz
You trust him, J.D. vance?
Akash Singh
I do not that.
Andrew Schulz
Let me tell you something. To do what he did in life.
Akash Singh
Oh, he's nice.
Andrew Schulz
But I don't like the guy. His mom was a drug addict, right? Yeah, poor. Ends up going to Yale, navigating Yale with really nothing to offer. Remember a lot of people that go to these like elite private schools, like their legacy individuals that and the people at these schools, a lot of them are entering banking and, or some sort of like VC hedge fund world where having wealthy family members is very valuable because you can use them as assets for investment, whatever. These companies are navigating that world with really nothing to offer those people takes super high emotional intelligence. This guy's smart, no question. I don't know how much I trust him.
Akash Singh
That's exactly how I feel. He's nice in that debate, he was nice.
Andrew Schulz
He's nice, he's a shark dog. But I need to sit in a room with him and I need to be like. And they asked us to have him on and my feeling was if we had him on, but we didn't have anybody from the Democrats side on, it would seem too unfair. Like I thought we were more or less balanced. We had Cuban on and then we had Trump on. We tried to get someone else, tried to get Buttigieg on. He's supposed to come on, then he has to do debate prep. Maybe that's an excuse or maybe not, but yeah, I just felt like it would be too one sided. But I do, in order to know if I can trust, I gotta sit in a room with him. That is he's to do what he.
Akash Singh
Did in his life, is question his.
Andrew Schulz
Ability is very difficult.
Akash Singh
Don't question his ability. I question a little bit his motives and how he operates.
Alex Media
Four years he's next up and think.
Andrew Schulz
About like talk crazy about Trump.
Alex Media
Yeah, that's the wildest shit.
Andrew Schulz
Well, to me this is also evidence. Like people go, oh, Trump's about to go after all the people that hated on him. It's like, I don't think that's really how he operates. Like if those people take a step in his direction, he's fine.
Akash Singh
Vince McMahon.
Andrew Schulz
So if they continue to hate on him, then they might be fucked. But if they try to be diplomatic and they try to work with him and do things, clearly he will forgive. He forgot the VP is a guy who hated him more than anything, said vile things about him. Now he made him vp, next in line to rule the country.
Alex Media
Could that also show how Easily manipulated. I mean, how easy he can be manipulated.
Andrew Schulz
I think that's one way of looking at the argument. And it's just the same coin, right? One side is always easily tricked or manipulated. The other side is he looks at it as business or he looks at it as the game. He looks at it as politics. And once you're willing to get on board, if you're willing to help the agenda, and you can help the agenda, doesn't matter what you said. Let's go make this work.
Akash Singh
Probably a little bit of both.
Andrew Schulz
So it could be.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, our thing is culturally more annoying now with Trump.
Andrew Schulz
Oh, break that down. That's an interesting one.
Mark Gagnon
Like, from 2016 to 2020, it just seemed like every day there was like a culture war happening. He would tweet some, and then people would dissect it, and there'd be back and forth. And if you said something like, specifically on stage, and you'd be like, I think this people be like, wait, are you a Trump guy? Are you not? Is that a redo?
Akash Singh
I agree with you.
Andrew Schulz
It's over. It's not a redo. It's an over. It's a unanimous victory. People are exhausted. I actually think him losing in 2020 is the best thing that could happened because America clearly wasn't ready to reject the path it was going on. And the 2024 victory. Is America unanimously going okay? We don't like what the Democrats are offering. We actually don't even trust the way that they're positioning Trump to be. Like, yeah, there might be some issues, but it's not as bad as the Democrats are making it. I mean, like, seeing Obama on there, like on the. On the trail, and this was, like, heartbreaking. A little bit like him spouting hoaxes. Like, he's on the campaign trail. He's saying things that have been debunked and proven false. What they're good people on both sides thing, like, there's all these things that. And it's just like, even Obama, like, Obama, like, this is. Maybe I hold him to a higher regard than I should. They're all politicians at the end of the day about that.
Alex Media
Yeah, I did hear the full part of what Trump said, but if you're at a rally and there's KKK and white nationalists right next to you, are there good people on both sides if you're rolling with these people?
Andrew Schulz
So the context of this conversation is the Charlottesville thing, and there were people that don't want to tear down all the statues and the people that do want to tear down the statues. And I think his argument that there's good reasons to want to tear it down and there's good reasons to maybe not want to tear them down. We start looking into the morality of all these people that we have statues of good or bad, all of a sudden they're going to start coming down like, George Washington had slaves.
Alex Media
I get it.
Andrew Schulz
Yank it, like.
Alex Media
But I'm saying, if you're marching for something, even though maybe the cause is moral, just or whatever the case is, but right next to you is kkk. It's white nationals. Are you really on the right side?
Andrew Schulz
I understand your positioning 100%. The unfortunate thing is sometimes your views align with people whose views are abhorrent. So, for example, KKK people might want smaller government, you might want smaller government. You guys might agree on that. That doesn't mean you support kkk.
Alex Media
Yeah, I'm just saying if there's a march for smaller government and KKK shows up and be like, I'm a support that one out.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, he could have said nothing. But it's like if you're in a free speech debate, you're like, look, I see both sides, but that doesn't mean I'm like endorsing the people that are pro Hitler.
Akash Singh
Well, I do think Trump will. He doesn't want to lose ever. So he will co sign some shit that he shouldn't co sign if he knows those guys are going to vote for him and he doesn't want. And if he doesn't, then he's going to lose their vote. He'll figure. And then he'll figure out whoever's outraged on the back end, but let me just not lose their vote. And I don't love. I don't like that. I don't. I would say also to your initial point, I think being comedians, we were in making the jokes, whatever. The height of like the cancel culture shit was like 2015, 2016. I think Trump getting elected the first time was the beginning of the downward. We're done with this. And I think 2016, when he won, everybody's like, but he lost the popular. So you still felt emboldened that the majority of the country is with me now. This is such a decisive victory. Trump won the popular. I do think, think people in the middle have to start looking like, oh, these leftists don't got it. They act like they got it, they don't got it. And they're going to believe what they're going to believe because they're as are People on the far right.
Andrew Schulz
But like just a rejection. Yeah, it's just a rejection of like actors as influencers.
Akash Singh
Oh, yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Actors and musicians don't move the needle.
Akash Singh
No.
Andrew Schulz
And a lot of that comes from the connection thing we were talking about earlier. It's like as famous as actors are, are, we don't really feel connected to them. Like, I'm not as cool as George Clooney is. He's the coolest guy on the planet. You know, Ocean's 11, 12, 13. I'm like, I just want to exist in those movies, but I'm not connected to him. Like, I am like a guy like Joe Rogan. So Joe Rogan could influence me way more than a George Clooney. And I think that that exists even at the highest level, like a Taylor Swift. You know, it's. We have an idea of who Taylor is, but I don't know if, if, if she connects with us on a day to day basis like a podcaster does, or to be fair, like radio hosts did back in the day, like a Howard Stern probably had way more influence.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah. I mean, I think evidence of that is like the tinos coming out. Like, like Latinos came out and like big numbers for.
Andrew Schulz
Huge numbers for Trump. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
And like I think that was like the biggest disparity from 2020. I think it was like a, like 25 or 30 points.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
More Latinos even in like swing states, like PA and shit.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
So even on the heels of like Tony's joke and people are like, oh, this is going to swing the election. That seems like it had no effect.
Andrew Schulz
No effect.
Mark Gagnon
And Latinos were still like, no, we like Trump.
Akash Singh
And that's again, in the face of the cancel culture thing is like, that was one thing I did get right. We talked about it on the Patreon. I was like, I don't think this joke hurts Trump or Tony at all. I don't think it fudgeing matters. They're both going to be fine because it's just a joke. And again to the cancel culture thing, we're not buying into that shit anymore.
Andrew Schulz
I heard an interesting take about that from Gnome from the comedy seller and he basically said like, the fact that they didn't vet the jokes is indicative of them not caring about comedy being like them. Not dangerous. Yeah, dangerous like in, in a positive way. Meaning, like, they're like, we're not going to be the administration that like censors general jokes. Like, they're just jokes. Why would we waste time looking over your jokes? We don't need to do that.
Mark Gagnon
It's true.
Andrew Schulz
You're a comedian and you just do it. Now, that might be a very gracious way of looking at it, but I thought it was a kind of interesting take. Like, I imagine the Democrats like, well, we need to see every single word and see every single joke. And they're like, we're not going to police your jokes. That's not what our organization is doing. That's not what our administration is going to do. That was an interesting take. I. It's more one of those takes that, like, I want to believe. I don't know if it's actually real, but yeah, yeah.
Mark Gagnon
Tony's vindicated, though.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Tony is free. He was watching that nervously. Bro, bro. Kama.
Alex Media
Stay out of Spanish Harlem.
Andrew Schulz
Puerto Ricans, they might still be upset by the way Tony, it's actually.
Alex Media
He picked the perfect group because most Latinos don't like Puerto Rico.
Andrew Schulz
So that's the thing. That's the thing. It's like every. All these white people coming out like, yo, Puerto Rico is not garbage. But all these Latinos were like, yo, sometimes you get it.
Mark Gagnon
Right.
Andrew Schulz
That's why it's funny. Yeah. Did you guys talk about on the Patreon, the. The. The Tony H. Club joke? Yeah.
Akash Singh
It just wasn't. Yeah, we said the environment wasn't conducive to doing these jokes.
Andrew Schulz
Also, the joke just didn't make sense.
Akash Singh
Like, and I think, like, just for.
Andrew Schulz
New Yorkers is what I'm saying. Like New Yorkers, we. We think of Puerto Rico as this like, tropical, beautiful island.
Akash Singh
Oh, yeah.
Andrew Schulz
It viewed as like a garbage island.
Akash Singh
That's a great point.
Andrew Schulz
So that's why the audience was like, huh, that's weird because it's like our first trip to a tropical, beautiful place in our lives. So the punchline didn't make sense and that's why I didn't land in the room.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
There are maybe places that you could use that would have worked for the joke for sure. But I think the takeaway now is just, yeah, he's a comedian. He's a rose comedian. Like John Stewart. The. You know, hats off to John Stewart because he took that on the chin like he's. He went immediately, hey, he's a rose comedian. He's hilarious. This is what they do. Maybe the administration shouldn't have brought him up there to do it because that's what he does. But we're not going to get upset at the guy for doing the thing he does.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And for him knowing the base that he's built and the trust that they have in him to come out there and say that first, I think that took a lot of the heat off of.
Akash Singh
Yeah, he's the best.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah. So what. What happens now? What is the. What does the media do? I don't think the media can sit back and go, all right, we don't have the influence that we. We had before, and we have to change all our programs, and we have to make everything long form where you can really get to know somebody. It just doesn't match the goal of legacy media, which is to sell pharmaceuticals or to sell Bud Lights or whatever the fuck they. The reason why they're all these shows. So I think the only thing they can do is deny that they have a lack of influence and then make Radioactive the opposite position.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Same play.
Andrew Schulz
The same play all. So it's just like, you're racist, you're blah, blah, blah. Like, you're. You're sexist, you're a bad person, all the. Like. I would not be surprised if there are articles about us and the other podcasts that were successful in this time that are not supportive, congratulatory. I. I wouldn't see the articles. Wow. They built up a community and they were able to have a, you know, conversation that was really unique.
Akash Singh
They'll leave out that we ask Kamala multiple times to come on.
Andrew Schulz
Of course. Of course. And they'll probably try to make us as toxic as possible by bringing up everything that we may be tangentially accused of throughout our careers and not mentioning anything successful that we've done throughout our careers. Like, so. Because that's the only thing that they can do to maintain their status quo.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Which is a badge of honor. Kind of.
Andrew Schulz
It's a badge of honor. But I think it's important to talk about these things. Like, one thing I'll give Trump credit for is his, like, calling out the media created protection for him.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Because the media, online, new media, old media, can create narratives that are just not true.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And you have to decide, you're like, should I address this? Should I just ignore it? Like, And a lot of times you don't want to address this because I don't want to put more heat. Heat on it. But there's a version where, like, if you address it, then all of a sudden your fans start to go, oh, this is. This is made up. This is not true.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And then they stop believing.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
What was going on.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
You know. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just one of those things where, like, I wonder, like, I. Our. Our take is, like, if you're not really, like, a. A real resource that's not getting a lot of views, it doesn't really matter. Like, we just kind of explained. Ignore it. But maybe there's a version where we should be addressing more things.
Akash Singh
Maybe.
Andrew Schulz
I figure people are eventually going to see it, and then they stop trusting the outlets that just lie for views. But maybe that doesn't. Maybe that's not the case. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
I mean, I feel like I saw a turn with Rogan, like, once. Like, the. All the COVID stuff was happening. He was kind of talking out against it, and then they're using his images with, like, color correction to make him look worse on cnn.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
And then the way that they've slandered him after he, like, became vocal about that IT Issue, I think more and more people were like, wait, this guy, lifelong liberal, like, endorsed Bernie? More or less, like, was, like, supportive of Bernie. And now you're calling him, like, all these names and slurs. It's like, all right. And I think that is a moment where a lot of people go, like, oh, they're just calling everyone they don't. Like, a Nazi.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah. And I think we should pay attention to, like, who these creators are, who the writers are, and see if there's a pattern.
Akash Singh
Oh, okay.
Andrew Schulz
You know, like, see if there's a pattern of these types of pieces being written. See if that's essentially, like, what they do.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Oh, yeah, right. Like, in the same way that they'll try to create patterns for us and they'll try to create narratives about us. I imagine that if we look back at the pieces that they make, there will be some patterns that they might not like out there, and it might undermine their journalistic integrity.
Akash Singh
Yep.
Andrew Schulz
So it's something that we should look at, like, as we go into this new media landscape, it's up to us also have integrity, which I think we did especially during the election. Like, we could have. We could have been so biased in one direction. We had. Everybody on the right was willing to come on the show, and we're like, if we do that, it will just be too biased.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And we're not going to give our audience, like, a true understanding of what this political landscape is so they can make a decision that they believe.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah. It is interesting to see Bezos not endorse Kamala through Washington Post, and then also Zuckerberg kind of at the same time being like, oh, yeah, the Biden administration was trying to get us to, like, squash all these stories.
Akash Singh
Yeah, that was wild.
Mark Gagnon
Like, all these large tech guys all simultaneously.
Akash Singh
That is also what makes me a little more wary of J.D. vance, though. And I don't look at that as much as an admonishment of the Biden administration as I do. It was a little worrying that all these massive technocrats or whatever are suddenly all kind of shifting this way. And it could just be they're unhappy. But I also am like, oh, your vice president is funded by a technocrat. This seemed a little convenient, the timing.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
But also, like Pence not was funded, but was largely influenced by the evangelical right. And I don't feel like that played like a huge effect on Trump outside of the room.
Akash Singh
I just don't fear their influence.
Alex Media
That was huge.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, but like, I mean, it didn't stop necessarily like Pence, you know, like, Pence wasn't just like lap dogging on Trump. You know what I mean? Like, there's still, like, friction between them. And so in the same way, I wonder how much JD can actually even influence Trump.
Akash Singh
This is not my conspiracy, but if we're getting real conspiracy, conspiratorial, let's go. These guys are powerful enough to be like, yo, let's just get Trump out of there and let's get our guy. He's vulnerable. Dp now, we couldn't have got him elected. We can make him president.
Andrew Schulz
Now.
Mark Gagnon
That's interesting.
Akash Singh
I don't know if I should give credit to whoever, but, like, yeah, that's not. But it, it didn't seem completely impossible when he said it.
Andrew Schulz
I don't. I think that all of these people are hedging, and I think Bezos is hedging. Bezos didn't endorse Trump. He just said, I'm not going to endorse any of them. And by not endorsing through the Washington Post is what we're talking about. He left it open for interpretation, and now he can go to Trump and be like, hey, listen, there are certain government contracts I would like to continue. I mean, Jeff Bezos got like, really favorable government contracts for his space program. Elon is best buddies with Trump. I can't fathom that Trump is going to side with Bezos over Elon for any type of government funded space exploration. But maybe, and I imagine when you get to that level of business, you need, you know, government influence. And maybe he's doing this just to protect his interests.
Alex Media
That's a weird thing that newspapers actually endorse any kind of insane.
Andrew Schulz
Right.
Alex Media
Makes no sense. Yeah, it's Supposed to be an unbiased journalistic paper.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah.
Alex Media
Yeah, that's weird in itself. So I actually like the fact that they didn't.
Andrew Schulz
None of them should let us read your articles. And by reading your articles, we come to a decision. Yeah. You don't have to tell us what to do. None of us told you. I thought that that was really cool.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Like, we made a point to not say who we're voting for. I don't want to tell you guys what to do. You guys are smart. You can make your own decisions. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
Read the articles and then wait for JLO to endorse someone and then do what she.
Andrew Schulz
That's it. Yeah. It's that simple.
Mark Gagnon
That's what I did.
Andrew Schulz
Wait for JLO to go up there and fake cry. Yo, I loved how like this second, she was fake crying up there, the Diddy marriage came out. Like, cuz she was there the night where Diddy shot that dude and then blame Sean.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And she rode with Diddy. All which is like, you are ride or die. Yeah. Yo, shout out JLO for that one. I mean, it's up. But shout out JLO for that one. But she lied on the stand for Diddy. Right.
Akash Singh
Has done that out of sheer terror.
Alex Media
Did she take the stand? I thought she didn't want to take the stand because she didn't want to lie.
Andrew Schulz
Oh, so maybe she didn't take the stand. Maybe she put the fifth or something like that. But like, she knew what the fuck was going on.
Alex Media
Oh, yeah, she knew.
Andrew Schulz
And this is the beauty of like. And also the annoyance of, like, when these celebs get involved in these things, you're just like, shut the fuck up. Yeah, shut. I don't need you to hear about how toxic Trump is. It's like you were married, not like you were just dating. You are married to Diddy.
Mark Gagnon
How long were they married? For like a while or is it like a year thing? And then it broke up, I think.
Andrew Schulz
In Puerto Rican standards. Very long.
Akash Singh
Yeah, it's like dog years.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, it is. Is. It is. Yeah. I would say that it was about 21 years. Yeah, that's a good. That's a. Yeah. Oh, that is funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mark Gagnon
That's a long time.
Alex Media
Yo, shout out to JLo, man.
Mark Gagnon
Have you read Kim Porter's book yet?
Akash Singh
No.
Andrew Schulz
No.
Mark Gagnon
Bro, you gotta read it.
Alex Media
It's not her book.
Mark Gagnon
It's her book, bro.
Andrew Schulz
It's her words.
Mark Gagnon
Come on.
Alex Media
It's not her book.
Mark Gagnon
Banging everyone and their husbands.
Akash Singh
I believe that we didn't Talk about young thug.
Mark Gagnon
Thug.
Andrew Schulz
Oh, this is crazy.
Akash Singh
Yeah. What an insane sentence.
Andrew Schulz
I mean, kind of wild. And not shocked that they did it before the election. They knew they were going to lose this trial. And I think they did it before the election because they knew that it would be completely squashed by the election. This is a five year long trial. I think the most expensive trial in Georgia history. And they get nothing. They get time served.
Alex Media
I know, it's great.
Mark Gagnon
15 probation.
Alex Media
That's nothing.
Andrew Schulz
Which I feel like eventually they're going to take down on good behavior. Does that happen?
Alex Media
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Andrew Schulz
So you can renegotiate your probation based on good behavior. So, like you're on good behavior for a few years.
Mark Gagnon
What's probation mean? What are you not allowed to do?
Alex Media
Can't smoke, can't drink. I think he has to move out of Atlanta.
Andrew Schulz
Probation officer that you can't check in with.
Mark Gagnon
Kind of nice.
Alex Media
You can't associate with anybody who has a gang affiliation.
Mark Gagnon
He's gonna get so healthy.
Akash Singh
How are they gonna all this?
Mark Gagnon
Well, that's probation officer maybe going through.
Alex Media
All your tweet anything, if you post anything. It's like he really has to live like a Mormon right now until. For the next 15 years or.
Andrew Schulz
I mean, there are certain things that you could get away with. What I would say is the probation. The. And I obviously, I don't know what the jail is like. I'm sure it's all horrible, but the idea of like the looming violation of probation over you, like every second. If I do this as a to.
Alex Media
Yeah. But trust me, you way better than being in jail.
Andrew Schulz
1,000.
Alex Media
Facing life.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, he was facing life.
Alex Media
So he won. Yeah, this was a win. Major win.
Andrew Schulz
This is why you need Republicans, man. Yeah, real talk. This is why you need Republicans, bro.
Mark Gagnon
They got Kodak out.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah. Republicans would have never wasted money. They'd be like, free him, bro. Free Thug, bro. We need more music.
Mark Gagnon
Didn't Trump do something with Lil Wayne too? Didn't he, like, get him?
Andrew Schulz
Wayne's, I think, adorable. Endorsed Trump.
Mark Gagnon
Is that what it was?
Andrew Schulz
I just have a. A real quick question about. This is Lil Wayne. I wonder if this is just media. I wonder if this is an angle trying to convince us. Like, I look at everything that I consume right now. I was like, is there a narrative here that people trying to justify a decision? And it very well could be people are taking the worst parts of his concerts and putting them on the Internet to justify him not being the super bowl halftime performer. But what is being shown on Twitter, I don't think is indicative of a Super bowl halftime performance. And I say this as someone who supported Wayne his entire life. I love Wayne, One of the greatest rappers of all time. Have any of you seen Wayne live?
Alex Media
I've seen him live and it was amazing.
Andrew Schulz
Okay, so then amazing. Maybe this is people hating on the Internet and try. It's. Yeah, it was a while.
Alex Media
It was when him and Drake were doing that co tour situation and he would actually body Drake almost every night. Like, I saw two shows and it was okay. He steals the show.
Andrew Schulz
Okay. So then. Then. And. And what you're seeing now on the Internet, you're like, this doesn't match up at all.
Alex Media
The audio wasn't good. Like, it was. It was a little off.
Andrew Schulz
Like, so this is some hating.
Alex Media
I think so. I personally.
Andrew Schulz
And who's behind that?
Alex Media
I don't know. It's just maybe not the greatest production.
Akash Singh
Also, the Kendrick team online is pretty.
Andrew Schulz
Who's behind it, bro? I mean, who's behind. If it is, then the Democrat shill. Jay Z, the Kamala supporter.
Alex Media
Jay's been quiet. He ain't. He.
Andrew Schulz
He got his wife out there doing a personally endors nobody criminal. You don't put criminals on stage unless they're the president. Exactly.
Alex Media
He should have backed the criminal.
Andrew Schulz
Nah, that is. Yo, 50 Cent is a man, bro. They. They ask him non stop. They hit me up the Trump scene, hit me up and asked if they. If I could reach out to 50 to get him to come to the MSG shows. And I was like, I don't know, man. That's, you know, it's a 50. 50, you know, marches, beat his own drum. This is what he does whatever he wants. And he. He always says he doesn't do religion or politics.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And after Trump won, he posted a picture with him and Trump. And he goes, I'm always walking out the ring with the winner or something to that, like anger, you know what I mean? Like, this guy is great. Oh, man. There's a great interview with him where he. He was talking about Nelly's. It's hot in here. Did you see this? He was on Ebro and he was talking with Ebro about Nelly's. It's hot in here. He's remembering it's hot all my clothes. And he goes, when I saw that song come, I was like, oh, this shit is a hit. And then he goes, so they make Lloyd Banks fire.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Which is like. And he blatantly. I couldn't believe he was playing set. He goes, so we Made Lloyd Banks fire. Fire, which is just another version of It's Hot in Here.
Akash Singh
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And he blatantly says. He goes, there's been plenty of times throughout my career where, like, I saw a song that was hot and we did our version of that song was hot and then blew up. Wow. I couldn't believe an artist was sharing that. Yeah, and it just shows, like, his. The way he thinks about rap. Like, he's thinking of it as. He's obviously a creative guy, but, like, there's a business behind this. McDonald's comes out with the McRib. What's Wendy's up to?
Alex Media
It was not far how he came up, because on the mixtape scene, all he was doing was just taking people's song and then flipping them.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, I mean, smart, but just a lot. I don't think a lot of artists would admit that there was another song that was really hot and they wanted to do. Yeah. A version to compete.
Mark Gagnon
So much insecurity. I started this. I made the whole flow. I created everything just to be like, look, the shit was fire. And so we did our version.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah, yeah.
Alex Media
N.50's the man, bro.
Andrew Schulz
Right?
Alex Media
He's really the man.
Andrew Schulz
We need 50 on a pod, bro.
Mark Gagnon
He scared me when he was going at the guy with the chain that terrified.
Andrew Schulz
Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Mark Gagnon
So a guy, a jeweler, nyc.
Andrew Schulz
Oh, tracks. Oh, my God.
Mark Gagnon
He's. I didn't know this was a thing you can't do. I grew up in the suburbs. Not a violation of blood.
Andrew Schulz
Track's a wild boy, too. Tell this whole story.
Mark Gagnon
Basically, 50 Cent gets a brand new.
Andrew Schulz
Legendary. Legendary New York City jeweler. Yeah, legendary. And he has used social media brilliantly to build his brain. Like, he does these things that you can't not look at. It's amazing. He'll just, like, take gold bars and I'll, like, hand them out to random people in the street. He'll hide them all over the city. He'll hide them and say, go find it. Like, yeah, it's crazy. He's really creative with his usage of social media as advertising for his business. Okay.
Mark Gagnon
But this thing terrified me, bro. So basically, 50 Cent comes out with a brand new chain, and he's like, yo, this is my new chain. He got it made by a specific jeweler that 50 always works with. And then track sees the chain and goes, hey, guys, 50 has the sickest new chain. So I've made basically a replica that I'm selling, and you can buy them now.
Andrew Schulz
That's not exactly how it Was, does.
Mark Gagnon
That know what happened?
Andrew Schulz
No. 50 had an iconic chain. And then Tracks was like, yo, remember this 50 chain for we're selling these pieces. It was a Jesus piece.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, yeah.
Andrew Schulz
But I don't think 50 was like, yo, here are my new chains. And he's selling.
Mark Gagnon
No, no, no. 50 just came out with a chain.
Andrew Schulz
It was like he's had it for. That's like an old chain. A cross? Yeah, yeah, it's a cross. It's the piece. But it's an old thing.
Mark Gagnon
That's like his iconic thing.
Andrew Schulz
No, it was a thing that he, I, I popularized. But I don't know if he did a brand deal with a Jewel specific.
Mark Gagnon
It just, he got one made not by Track, but just by different jewel.
Andrew Schulz
I just want to set the record straight for what happened.
Mark Gagnon
And then Track saw it and was like, oh, this chain is fire.
Andrew Schulz
This piece, there's a cross. Yeah.
Mark Gagnon
And now I'm going to make my own version of it.
Andrew Schulz
And he's like, yo, here are the 50 Cent crosses.
Mark Gagnon
Like, yeah, yeah.
Andrew Schulz
And he used 50 Cent in the video. Yeah. And 50 Cent just goes, this was foolish. You'll hear from my lawyers, or something like that. But then Tracks takes a duffel bag of gold and platinum bars and goes to Queens, goes with his neighborhood, starts handing them out. And 50 got so much love in the neighborhood still. Did some random street dudes just walk up to him? Why He's a neighbor. And go, yo, you gotta get out of here.
Akash Singh
Wow.
Andrew Schulz
He's not even in the neighborhood anymore.
Alex Media
That's right.
Andrew Schulz
But the fact that they knew something, he's like, yo, you got to get the out of here.
Mark Gagnon
Is Tracks the bravest guy in the world?
Andrew Schulz
Yeah. You know that he went and fought the, the watch dude that we hung out with in Ireland. What, Nico?
Akash Singh
Watch Nico? Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
Like he went out there and they fought.
Mark Gagnon
Why?
Andrew Schulz
Because they were beefing over something and he pulled up and they boxed. I'm telling you, this guy Tracks is like an underrated self marketer. Like in New York City, we know him. But outside of New York, put it this way. You know how like now with, with the popularity of like, watches, all the guys on 46th street started to really blow up the watch trading thing. It became a huge trend and they deserve all their success and it's amazing. And but Tracks before that was like a viral jewelry guy in an area that we knew in the city, but I guess it wasn't, I don't know, how do you describe it, Al?
Alex Media
I'm just saying, to make noise, boys. Being on in the diamond district is crazy because it's like opening a shoe stock a shoe store and there's a thousand other shoes right next to it. So you have to be cutthroat. You have to market yourself better than everybody. You have to just do something different to stand out. He's been able to stand out. Greg Yuna is another one.
Andrew Schulz
They've just great marketing. Moses the jeweler has been phenomenal. He's been phenomenal. And there's one more kid that I was talking to. Oh, he does some stuff with Moses is Benny. What's his name? Vukam. Vukam. Vukam. They've been phenomenal.
Mark Gagnon
All I'm saying is. 50 cent comments on my post. This was foolish.
Andrew Schulz
You've taken a post down.
Mark Gagnon
I'm go. I'm on probation. I'm on young th time. I'm going to Malibu. 15 years you'll never hear about the best tracks.
Alex Media
Will see that. He's like.
Andrew Schulz
He's like, let's go. Jackson hasn't been McMahon. He's like, this is going to be fun.
Alex Media
Terrifying.
Andrew Schulz
Several days. Do it. Because 50 also said, I'm gonna need that by Monday. Which is the scariest thing. What does that even mean?
Mark Gagnon
I'm gonna need that by me. What?
Andrew Schulz
The famous battle that he got into was with that producer, Randall Emmett, and it was the greatest reality show that's ever. Tell this story. This is fire, bro. Randall Emmett's a producer that was making all these indie movies with 50 Cent. And I think he just owed him a few hundred grand that he and his wife was one of the chicks on Vanderpump Rules. Okay. So they got into it over something.
Alex Media
And they got into it.
Andrew Schulz
There was just nothing. It was late at all. It was. But it was nonstop. And it was just like this guy.
Akash Singh
Like, just dirt about him.
Alex Media
Dirt.
Andrew Schulz
Posting the least flattering photos you've ever seen. Coked up and shit. Like. Yeah. And then he would actually then post the calls of this guy. Hey, 50, please stop. Please stop doing it.
Alex Media
Crazy.
Andrew Schulz
It was pure to torture. And then he eventually got paid. And.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah, that's terrifying. 50 cent cans can't gets a hold of you. Any one of them. You're done.
Andrew Schulz
50 or Candace, you don't want. No problem. I know Candace tweeted a. Candace tweeted a little video of us saying, we don't want no problems. Just the fact that she tweeted a video of us. I was like, that was fun. You get the notification? No, no, not candy Now, Candace, you You got to play around with. Don't play around with Candace. You don't play around 50 Cent. Simple as that.
Mark Gagnon
That scared me, bro.
Andrew Schulz
Yeah. Hope you guys are having a great day. Hope you guys like the results of the election.
Mark Gagnon
What about Dr. Umar?
Andrew Schulz
Why?
Mark Gagnon
What's he doing?
Akash Singh
Yo, what's up with that?
Andrew Schulz
I said we would donate the money. So Dr. Umar, you got to pay him to go on White podcast.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Respect, I love that.
Andrew Schulz
And Black podcast, Shit it. Yeah, you gotta get paid, he gotta get paid, but whatever. And so I said I would do it. I, I, I was like, yeah, we'll give you the, we'll donate the money to the school at first.
Alex Media
And then we're waiting for the, for the deal.
Andrew Schulz
We never got the deal.
Alex Media
And then he said he only wants to go on if it's just you.
Andrew Schulz
Oh, that was right. That's right.
Akash Singh
Yeah. Did he follow? Did we ever follow up about. It's not like a gotcha thing. We just want to.
Alex Media
I think we did.
Andrew Schulz
The perception of it is, I think he believes that we're gonna do debate. I don't think that he realizes we're.
Mark Gagnon
Going to endorse him. There's going to be a lot of agreeance.
Andrew Schulz
This is like the pyramids. Like, just tell me whatever you think about the world.
Akash Singh
This is Colonizer, enslaver and occupier. I just want more of those. I just want more CEOs.
Andrew Schulz
All your acronyms. I am so ready to have some fun. But the boys got to be here. It's no fun. It's just. But he thinks that we're going to gang up on them. I, I assume that's what the concern is.
Akash Singh
Yeah, probably so.
Andrew Schulz
Dr. Umar, that is not what's going to happen. We just want to have some fun. My brother.
Mark Gagnon
Come in peace.
Andrew Schulz
My brother and melanin. I got my brother in Christ and melanin.
Alex Media
I got to give his number to duff. I think DUFF could pull it off.
Andrew Schulz
You think? What do you think about the, the dreidels? Yeah. What does he think about the Dre?
Akash Singh
I have a feeling he don't like him.
Mark Gagnon
He probably loves him. Fight. I think he's a huge fan.
Alex Media
Yeah, let's go with that.
Andrew Schulz
Do my best, but yeah, give me a summer.
Alex Media
Yeah, just, you know, fast talking buzzwords, I think.
Andrew Schulz
Good. Yeah.
Alex Media
Buzzwords.
Andrew Schulz
Listen, Dr. Umar, we love you, we want you on, but you got to come hang with the boys, okay? We support whatever your agenda is, whatever your geopolitical agenda is, whatever your emotional agenda, whatever your agenda is just know that we are huge fans. We support it, we love it over here. Okay.
Alex Media
No, but no bunny hopping.
Andrew Schulz
No bunny hopping over. We don't believe in bunny hopping over here. Shout out to the buttercreams. Shout out to the vanilla cream. Shout out to the pecan.
Mark Gagnon
Yeah.
Andrew Schulz
The brownies. Caramels. Like, you describe women's skin in the most amazing, poetic way. We want those descriptions over here. Okay. Shout out to autumn. Yeah. We want you on a pod, but we got to end this pod right now. God bless you. God bless all of you. Welcome to the next golden age of America. Let's go.
Mark Gagnon
Inshah.
Andrew Schulz
Inshallah.
Podcast Summary: Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh - "Trump Wins, Why the Dems Failed, & America’s Future"
Episode Information:
Overview: In this explosive episode of Andrew Schulz's Flagrant, hosts delve into the seismic shift in American politics following the 2024 presidential election, where Donald Trump secured victory. The conversation navigates through the reasons behind the Democratic Party's shortcomings, the evolving landscape of media influence, and speculations on America's trajectory in the coming years. True to the podcast's unapologetic and unfiltered style, Schulz and Singh, alongside their co-hosts, offer candid takes peppered with humor and sharp insights.
Trump's Victory: The central focus of the episode is Donald Trump's unexpected win in the 2024 presidential election. The hosts analyze the factors contributing to this outcome, emphasizing a broad rejection of liberal politics and ineffective Democratic campaigning.
Andrew Schulz ([05:52]): "In my estimation, this is what I think it was a referendum on liberal politics and leftist politics. I don't think it was Trump populism."
Mark Gagnon ([06:00]): "Some people are like, hell yeah, Trump's president, let's fucking go. The other half is like, the corporations have taken over and Satan is now in charge because ultimately all politicians serve Satan."
Reasons for Democratic Failure: The hosts attribute the Democratic loss to several key issues:
Lack of Effective Campaigning: Democrats failed to provide substantial solutions for critical issues like the border and the economy, relying instead on rhetoric without actionable plans.
Poor Media Strategy: Unlike Trump, who effectively utilized podcasts and long-form interviews to connect with voters, Kamala Harris's campaign appeared contrived and controlled, limiting genuine engagement.
Disconnected Leadership: Harris's inability to clearly communicate her stance on essential issues eroded voter trust and failed to inspire confidence.
Andrew Schulz ([07:00]): "They had no real answer for the border. They just gaslit people about the border. They had no real answer for the economy."
Legacy Media's Declining Influence: The discussion highlights a pivotal shift from traditional media outlets to new media platforms like podcasts, which foster deeper community connections.
New Media's Rise: Podcasting is lauded for its ability to build authentic connections with audiences, contrasting sharply with the often superficial engagement of legacy media.
Impact on Voter Mobilization: The hosts argue that new media's community-centric approach is more effective in mobilizing younger voters, who feel a stronger connection to podcasters compared to distant media personalities.
Democratic Campaign Missteps: The Democrats' strategy is critiqued for its late pivot and inability to effectively utilize influential platforms like Joe Rogan's podcast.
Trump's Effective Use of Media: Trump's active presence on podcasts and unfiltered communication are credited for maintaining and expanding his support base.
Quotes Highlighting Strategy Failures:
Akash Singh ([07:10]): "What is it, discredit or discount?"
Andrew Schulz ([08:08]): "I have theories on this, I think."
Optimism for America's Golden Age: Despite acknowledging the current low confidence in institutions, the hosts express hope for a revitalized America under Trump's leadership.
Potential Policy Changes: Discussions include the potential reinstatement of Roe v. Wade and appointment of conservative Supreme Court justices, emphasizing a shift towards pro-choice reforms.
Economic Concerns: Economic issues remain at the forefront, with the necessity to address inflation and support for bread and basic needs being highlighted as pivotal voter concerns.
Elon Musk's Twitter Management: The episode touches upon Elon Musk's controversial management of Twitter, sparking debates on free speech versus hate speech.
Impact on Public Discourse: The reduction in staff and increased allowance for hate speech are discussed as factors leading to a deterioration of constructive online conversations.
Hosts' Perspective: The hosts express skepticism about the future of Twitter as a platform for meaningful dialogue, predicting a gradual decline in toxic speech as community standards evolve.
Podcasting as a Unifying Force: The hosts emphasize the role of podcasts in fostering community and unity compared to the divisive narratives propagated by legacy media.
Media's Defensive Mechanisms: Speculations are made about legacy media's attempts to undermine successful podcasts by highlighting perceived toxic behavior or controversies.
Integrity and Authenticity: The importance of maintaining journalistic integrity and avoiding biased narratives is underscored as essential for fostering informed public opinion.
Hope for Institutional Reform: The hosts express a desire for strategic dismantling of inefficient government agencies, advocating for compassion in policy changes.
Optimism Mixed with Caution: While optimistic about the future under Trump's administration, the hosts remain cautious about potential challenges and the effectiveness of new governance strategies.
Final Remarks: The episode wraps up with reflections on the election's impact, the evolving media landscape, and the potential for a renewed American golden age, all delivered with the trademark humor and candidness that defines Flagrant.
Andrew Schulz ([81:37]): "We don't give a about the credit. We know we do."
Akaash Singh ([86:10]): "No bunny hopping over. We don't believe in bunny hopping over here."
Notable Quotes:
Conclusion: This episode of Andrew Schulz's Flagrant offers a raw and humorous examination of the 2024 election's outcome, dissecting the failures of the Democratic campaign and lauding the strategic media engagement that led to Trump's victory. The hosts advocate for the transformative power of new media in shaping political discourse and emphasize the need for authentic community connections over traditional media influence. As America stands at a crossroads, Flagrant provides its listeners with insightful, albeit provocative, perspectives on the nation's political and social future.