Why Trump is Covering for Epstein & How Diddy Got Off

Summary

Podcast Summary: Andrew Schulz's Flagrant with Akaash Singh
Episode: "Why Trump is Covering for Epstein & How Diddy Got Off"
Release Date: July 10, 2025

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1. Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell's Imprisonment (00:00 - 02:30)

The episode opens with Andrew Schulz addressing the wrongful imprisonment of Ghislaine Maxwell. He asserts that Maxwell was "wrongly imprisoned" and emphasizes the lack of RICO charges against Epstein, highlighting deep skepticism about the case's legitimacy.

• Andrew Schulz [00:00]: "Ghislaine Maximo has been locked up in Maine or Vermont or whatever Kush prison she's in for no reason."
• Mark Gagnon [00:21]: "No, no. He's a pedophile."

2. Allegations of Trump's Involvement in Epstein Cover-up (02:30 - 05:00)

The discussion shifts to Donald Trump's connections with Epstein. Schulz points out the extensive trust Epstein had, underscored by Les Wexner granting him significant power and assets.

• Andrew Schulz [02:30]: "Les Wexner gave him full power of attorney over his estate."
• Mark Gagnon [04:08]: "It might as well. What is it going for now, bro? It's easily 250 bucks now."

3. Systemic Corruption and the Intelligence Community's Role (05:00 - 28:12)

The hosts delve into broader themes of systemic corruption, suggesting that high-level government officials and intelligence agencies may be complicit in covering up Epstein-related activities. They speculate on the possibility of Epstein's connections extending to the CIA and FBI, discussing the implications of such involvement on national and global trust.

• Andrew Schulz [15:02]: "We're the idiots, honestly."
• Mark Gagnon [18:04]: "Either there is an intelligence operation that's happening within the United States that is aiding and abetting the exploitation of children."

4. Political Correctness and Loss of Trust in Institutions (29:54 - 45:07)

The conversation broadens to address declining trust in American institutions, drawing parallels with historical events like JFK's assassination and the Vietnam War. The hosts express frustration over perceived government dishonesty and the influence of powerful elites on political outcomes.

• Mark Gagnon [30:25]: "Like, like to me that seems like the most logical thing."
• Andrew Schulz [39:11]: "I think this conversation has swayed millions of people. And we hope to change the world today. I think we did."

5. Education System, Consumerism, and Upward Mobility (46:07 - 62:04)

A significant portion of the episode criticizes the American education system, highlighting exorbitant tuition fees and the lack of upward mobility despite high educational attainment. The hosts advocate for reformed education financing, suggesting differentiated tuition based on majors and increased accountability for educational institutions.

• Andrew Schulz [55:14]: "I think we have to completely look at the college education system differently."
• Mark Gagnon [52:23]: "It's like, it's just like we exist in a consumer, but the rates."

6. Relationships and "Love Bombing" (62:04 - 85:53)

Transitioning to a more personal topic, the hosts discuss the concept of "love bombing" in relationships, critiquing manipulative behaviors where excessive attention is used to gain someone's trust for ulterior motives. They explore how such tactics can lead to unhealthy relationships and emphasize the importance of honesty and transparency.

• Alex Media [73:11]: "That's why anti Semitism in New York City, like, keep it away from B and H."
• Andrew Schulz [76:16]: "We should be allowed to lie and they should be equipped to deal with the lies."

7. Conspiracy Theories and the Deep State (85:53 - 107:50)

Towards the end, the conversation veers into conspiracy theories about a "deep state" comprising elite bloodlines controlling global finance and politics. The hosts speculate on the existence of a hidden network influencing major world events and maintaining power through centralized financial control, such as the Federal Reserve.

• Mark Gagnon [107:34]: "All the richest people in the world are actually royal families within these countries."
• Andrew Schulz [109:12]: "Do you really want Americans for being frustrated?"

8. Closing Remarks and Reflections (107:50 - End)

In the final segment, the hosts reflect on the pervasive distrust in political leaders and institutions. They express a desire for greater transparency and accountability, hoping for future political figures to courageously expose corruption without personal repercussions.

• Andrew Schulz [123:34]: "We want justice. Yes, we want justice. We want a government we can trust."

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Notable Quotes:

• Andrew Schulz [00:07]: "After the FBI's incredible research, shout out to cockeyed Cash Patel."
• Mark Gagnon [00:22]: "He's a pedophile."
• Akaash Singh [10:25]: "A thousand girls that have been by Epstein and none of his cohorts."
• Andrew Schulz [25:51]: "The intelligence community is involved in it."
• Mark Gagnon [83:08]: "If someone had a bunch of Second the handcuffs."
• Andrew Schulz [118:11]: "They should put antibiotics in the water."

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Conclusion:

In this episode of Flagrant, Andrew Schulz and Akaash Singh engage in a fervent discussion surrounding Jeffrey Epstein's imprisonment and the alleged cover-up involving Donald Trump and other elites. Delving into themes of systemic corruption, loss of trust in institutions, and societal issues like the education system and consumerism, the hosts weave together conspiracy theories with critical societal commentary. Their candid and unfiltered approach encapsulates the podcast's essence, appealing to listeners seeking raw and unapologetic discourse on contemporary issues.

Transcript

[Andrew Schulz]

What's up, everybody? Welcome to flagrant Free Ghislaine. She has been wrongly imprisoned. She was convicted, guilty of something that clearly never happened.

[Akash Singh]

Never happened.

[Andrew Schulz]

After the FBI's incredible research, shout out to cockeyed Cash Patel. That motherf er was looking at the documents double time. And he was 100% certain that there was no RICO charges.

[Akash Singh]

No foul play.

[Mark Gagnon]

No, no. He's a pedophile.

[Andrew Schulz]

But just him.

[Akash Singh]

But only thousands of girls. Just him.

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah, the guy's busy.

[Akash Singh]

And that list that they said that they had was a list of one name.

[Andrew Schulz]

Guys, what the hell is going on? A lot of people. An apology. This poor big wrangler. Let's get a picture. She got into a child wrangler. Excuse me, Child wrangler. Ghislaine Maximo has been locked up in Maine or Vermont or whatever Kush prison she's in for no reason. Yeah. Does nobody feel bad about this unbelievable injustice? Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

They're the real victim of this whole thing is Ghislaine.

[Andrew Schulz]

And this guy who killed himself for nothing. For getting massages from underage girls. Like Alex doesn't do that in Chinatown after WTF reporters every single week. You never asked. You never asked how old they are in Chinatown. Just be honest.

[Akash Singh]

You can't really tell when you've been.

[Andrew Schulz]

Down there in Chinatown. Not asking, son.

[Alex Media]

They 80, but they look 60. I think I'm.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, if they always look 20 years younger, they always look a little bit younger. Safe.

[Alex Media]

I'm safe. I'm safe.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm safe. All right. We believe you're safe. What I'm trying to say.

[Akash Singh]

Only seen this.

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah, Alex asked for the old one, so he.

[Andrew Schulz]

Punch in there.

[Mark Gagnon]

Give me the oldest one you got.

[Andrew Schulz]

Speaking of Alex. Oh, no. I'm just going to say that this is an abortion of justice. This is an abortion of justice.

[Mark Gagnon]

Get her in the bathing suit so we can apologize.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, we have to look at just Lane in the bathing suit where she looks far more innocent. I'll be honest. When I saw her in that bathing suit, I always thought she was innocent.

[Akash Singh]

That's when you realized.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Alex Media]

Nah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh.

[Akash Singh]

Look at that bikini. How you. This is an American flag bikini. She's a patriot. And we got her locked up for no reason.

[Alex Media]

She's still a child, guys.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, she's a wrangler. She's a wrangler. She's a child wrangler. And then the child is Jeffrey Epstein. Alone. Nobody else. I mean, there's nobody else had anything to do with it. Yes. You know, one of the Richest men in America. Les Wexner gave him full power of attorney over his estate. Gave him quite possibly like the most expensive apartment in New York City. I think it was like a whole brownstone at one point in time. Just handed over to him in a deed. Gave him the power of attorney to his billions of dollars. Yes, that happened when he has no actual skill set whatsoever.

[Alex Media]

Yo, can you give us an apartment? Like, what's up, bro?

[Andrew Schulz]

Listen, that was friendship.

[Akash Singh]

I thought that was friendship.

[Mark Gagnon]

Less is a real one.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what I.

[Akash Singh]

Mark won't even let Miles stay at his house for two nights.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can we, can we talk about this? Can we really talk about that? We thought that. We're friends, right? All of us here. Over a decade of friendship. Yeah. I mean, combined. Yeah. Can I get a couch or a hand?

[Mark Gagnon]

Combined. That's some Epstein math right there.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I'm sorry. These girls are 30 years old. Combined. No, it's like, like I've been friends with Akash for 10 years and I'm not friends with you guys, so there's at least a decade of friendship. There's a decade of friendship until you get an apartment.

[Mark Gagnon]

I don't believe it. You're the same as us.

[Andrew Schulz]

But I, I don't think that we've been treating each other as real friends. Like, we've had loyalty and support and kindness and love. But there's no point in time where I just gave you power of attorney over my, you know, my finances. I never gave you a building.

[Mark Gagnon]

We could look into this. We could start today.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, we could start.

[Mark Gagnon]

You know what I mean, Considering everything we've done for you. I gave you a Don Perry on bottle. Lenny Kravitz.

[Andrew Schulz]

You gave me the Lenny Kravitz. That's fine.

[Alex Media]

That's a collector's eye.

[Andrew Schulz]

And now, now the value of that.

[Mark Gagnon]

Has gone up so much. By the way, Aakash gave you Solana, which is zero. And that Dom.

[Andrew Schulz]

Five gifts.

[Akash Singh]

I wish I gave you something.

[Mark Gagnon]

It's actually a better gift. Let the record show.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it is. You know what? I, I, I should take that back. And I appreciate that. You getting me to Lenny Kravitz. Dom Perignon is, is one of the greatest. I think that was a gift for my marriage. I believe. I, I got married and you decided to get me a Lenny Kravitz bottle of Don Par. Yeah, it was the only one they had. So you got me the one nobody wanted. That was your thoughtful gift. It glows in the dark.

[Alex Media]

Imagine as one night he' now his wife sees a hotter guy than.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's not on the bottle, you fucking asshole. I would imagine he's on it. There's a picture of Lenny Kramen's.

[Mark Gagnon]

It might as well. What is it going for now, bro? It's easily 250 bucks now. Come on, dude.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, oh, that shit. It's gone up a lot. Okay, that's a thousand dollar bottle of champagne. Yeah, I thought it was like a $30 bottle of champagne.

[Akash Singh]

No, Dom Perignon is expensive.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't look up the prices of gifts.

[Mark Gagnon]

Lenny Kravitz telling yo, that's fine, that's.

[Andrew Schulz]

$1,000 bottle of champagne.

[Akash Singh]

That's definitely worth more than mine.

[Andrew Schulz]

$5,000 of crypto.

[Akash Singh]

I should have told you to sell it that day. It was 7500. Then the next day it went, just.

[Andrew Schulz]

Give him the money if you're going to sell it that day. Listen, free. Just give him a gift. You'll sell it immediately.

[Akash Singh]

75, 8K right there. Bang.

[Mark Gagnon]

Free the lane, bro. I wish.

[Andrew Schulz]

Listen, and here's the reality, I think that we just. Can we just address something. Like, people make mistakes when they speak a lot. Right? Like when Pam was like, the videos are so vile of all this sex porn. Right. Like the District attorney. Is that what. Or is. What does she do? What is her position?

[Akash Singh]

What is her do we know? I don't know.

[Mark Gagnon]

The official one.

[Akash Singh]

Feelings, no facts.

[Andrew Schulz]

Pam Bondi, she works for Trump.

[Akash Singh]

That's all we need to do.

[Alex Media]

Just Trump's bitch.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Attorney General. Not just Attorney General, is the Attorney General just the district attorney for the country?

[Akash Singh]

I guess so, yeah. The district is the country attorney.

[Andrew Schulz]

Got it. Okay. So yeah, when she came out and said that there were the. The list was there, the client list was there, the files were there, the videos, the tons of the videos were there. She. She now is saying she misspoke. She just said that the thing was on her desk.

[Mark Gagnon]

The files. The case files.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, that happens. Yes. Like, don't you misspeak about, like thousands of hours of footage of adults having sex with children. Isn't that something you would misspeak about? You would be a little flippant in the way that you describe that.

[Mark Gagnon]

Right, Exactly. You would, oopsy daisy, that it happens all the time. I go to your wedding, you go, where's my gift? I say it's on my desk right now. I promise it's not sitting on liquor store alone.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay?

[Mark Gagnon]

It is on desk today.

[Andrew Schulz]

What do you think the guy said when you walked out of the liquor Liquor store. You think? He was like, man, I didn't think that there was people that would buy a Lenny Kravitz edition, you know? It doesn't even say Lenny Kravitz on the bottle.

[Akash Singh]

How did you know it was Lenny Kravitz?

[Andrew Schulz]

He just told him that in the liquor store, and he believed it. That's not true.

[Mark Gagnon]

That's not true, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's. That's.

[Alex Media]

He definitely thought it would be a girl buying that bottle, though. He's like, who's this.

[Andrew Schulz]

Al? Did you just misspeak, Al?

[Alex Media]

I think I missp.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think you misspelled it.

[Akash Singh]

Had to be the only bottle left, because why. I've never heard Schultz utter the term Lenny or Kravitz in my life. I don't even know if I heard him talk about Zoe Kravitz.

[Andrew Schulz]

Proud, proud graduate of PS6.

[Akash Singh]

Oh, y' all both went to the same elementary school.

[Andrew Schulz]

Went to the same elementary school.

[Akash Singh]

Go so deep.

[Mark Gagnon]

You know what I mean? Like, that's what kind of a. Bruce.

[Alex Media]

He knew that.

[Andrew Schulz]

Speaking of Epstein.

[Mark Gagnon]

Wait a second.

[Akash Singh]

Proud graduate of PS6.

[Mark Gagnon]

You win. For 25 years, actually.

[Andrew Schulz]

So speaking of Epstein, you know, for the 100 year, for the centennial, they, like, d. This, you know, the thing that you put underground? Time capsule. Right. So he dug open a time capsule, and I was, like, at the school during that time. My dad even went to PS6. And the Centennial was on, like, a Friday or something like that. On a Thursday. This black dude with, like, dreads and, like, his shirt unbuttoned was just, like, walking the perimeter of the yard, just kind of, like, looking in and seeing what's going on. And all the kids were like, what the fuck is going on? Like, this is kind of, like, peculiar. The teachers were, like, asking around. Apparently he mixed up the days of the centennial. Like, he wanted to come. He wanted come on the Friday, but thought it was a Thursday. So he's just stalking the gates, staring at children with an unbuttoned shirt in the. On the Upper east side and didn't get arrested. That's. That's what America used to be. Yeah, dude, Before Mum Donnie came in. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

And Giuliani's America. Black guys can walk around freely.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. So Brooklyn now Mundani's out here getting. Kicking the Jews out. Yeah. Oh, God, dude.

[Alex Media]

I mean.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay, so. So can we just kind of understand what's going on? Can we understand what's going on here? Because obviously this whole blackmail ring, you know, that has tied in American presidents, Israeli prime ministers, The Royal Family. This is all allegedly. Obviously, now that we know that that is completely false. And all these people were just good friends. Yeah. You know, they were just, like, hanging out. Like, Bill Gates. Going to, like, someone who has already been convicted of a ped. Ophelia. Just go in his house to talk business is like a normal thing. Right? There's no way that this is like some entrenched blackmail scheme. Intelligence scheme. Impossible. That. That would be impossible. Right. Because, yeah, if you're Bill Gates, like, you would have so much to lose going to a pedophile's house. Yeah, yeah. Right. Like, why would you do business with that? Exactly. So he must be a big misunderstanding. Yeah, absolutely. Got it. Okay.

[Mark Gagnon]

I don't know why they wouldn't just be like, yo, it's Prince Andrew, because isn't he already besmirched?

[Andrew Schulz]

Right. But now I think we got to forgive him. Yeah. We gotta forget our picture. Yeah, yeah. She took a picture of the girl who accused him of being a pedophile. And then, like, I mean, why don't we just ask that girl one more time if that girl. If Rip, Bro. Oh. Oh, she's dead.

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah. She. She took her own life.

[Akash Singh]

Probably from lying. That was the guilt of lying about all these. That's what got her.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, no, no.

[Akash Singh]

She was obviously. Hey, we gotta believe. We gotta believe these guys. So this woman's a liar. All these women are liars. Listen, and Akash, what are you gonna do?

[Andrew Schulz]

Akash, as cockeyed Cash said. He said, we cannot re. Victimize these girls. Yes. Right. Because that's what these girls want the most.

[Akash Singh]

Oh, right.

[Andrew Schulz]

They don't want justice that they've been clamoring for. For the last few decades. They want. They don't want to be re. Victimized.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

So every time they say, hey, please, can you just get those bad guys who us up a lot. Yeah. What do you think they mean when they say that?

[Akash Singh]

Don't victimize me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Don't victimize me. Like, do it, but don't do it. I'm already victim.

[Akash Singh]

Already been through being a victim once. This is worse. Victimhood is justice.

[Andrew Schulz]

So you're telling me there's a thousand girls that have been by Epstein and none of his cohorts.

[Akash Singh]

Correct.

[Andrew Schulz]

None of his cohorts.

[Alex Media]

So they should be celebrating.

[Andrew Schulz]

None of them want to be. Say again?

[Alex Media]

They should be celebrating because they got the only guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're right. Finally, justice is served. Justice. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

And they released the footage from the cell the two floors down from him.

[Andrew Schulz]

It wasn't Even his cell, it's like around the corner.

[Mark Gagnon]

Coffee, Zillow. The legend was on the case immediately.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, shout out to Susp.

[Akash Singh]

Love this guy, dude.

[Andrew Schulz]

Love you dog.

[Mark Gagnon]

He did like a whole sort of like like 10 minute video on the video on the the 10 hours that was released from the jail and which originally they said there was like no videotape of his cell. So they released footage nearby that his cell is actually like around the corner, like up the stairs or something.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh what a. You know.

[Mark Gagnon]

And so they show the video with a minute missing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yep.

[Mark Gagnon]

That minute according to Pambondi is from when the camera is like reset. So you know like you got the footage and then it resets. So like basically the camera goes.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a good recording device. Yeah, like if recording device to record every second of a day just in case something happened. Probably be the highest security jail in the world. It would probably be pretty smart for there just to be a minute long.

[Akash Singh]

Gap periodically like over and over.

[Alex Media]

By the way, the suicide watch section.

[Andrew Schulz]

Of all in the suicide watch section and by the way there was no video. Yeah, the other camera original function 10 days before. Yeah, stopped recording 10 days before.

[Mark Gagnon]

But you know how that is, you film your stand up shows all the time and then you'll film and then one minute in the middle of your hour it'll reset.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, exactly.

[Mark Gagnon]

And then whenever it resets that's there.

[Andrew Schulz]

Is an opportunity for a camera company.

[Akash Singh]

I had a guy commit suicide at my show. It was during the minute that they.

[Andrew Schulz]

Had been a clip.

[Akash Singh]

It could have been a clip.

[Andrew Schulz]

And so they said you killed on.

[Alex Media]

Stage but they missed it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Technically he didn't kill. It's true.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, it's true.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah. It's a bad look at a show.

[Mark Gagnon]

Members are killing themselves. But they said that they're going to release footage from the day before and the day after to prove that the minute's missing. That the minute misses every single day at the same time. Because every day records.

[Akash Singh]

Oh that's how you can't doctor that resets.

[Andrew Schulz]

Now question.

[Alex Media]

Some slow ass editing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Is there any way that they can get us the footage of the cell or of a cell close to his? Can we see?

[Akash Singh]

I don't think so. I don't think prisons have surveillance like that. I think they just film in the corners like.

[Andrew Schulz]

Got it. Only corners that makes sense. I mean in the most like you know, technologically adv country in the history of the world. It makes sense.

[Mark Gagnon]

It's from years ago. But this is from 2019.

[Akash Singh]

Full of criminals.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah. 20, 19. Yeah. Did we even have cameras back then?

[Mark Gagnon]

This is filmed on a fucking beeper, bro. They don't have any of that shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

Unbelievable.

[Mark Gagnon]

This is years ago.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Why. Why did we. Why do we fall for this? Why do we fall for it every time? Why are we so gullible?

[Akash Singh]

We're the idiots, honestly.

[Andrew Schulz]

We really are. Yeah. Yeah. Why do we want to believe it's really on us? Why do we. Us? We're such crazy conspiracy theorists. Why do we want to believe that there's a blackmail ring. Yeah. Where they're honey potting with underage girls? Why do we want that? What's wrong with us?

[Akash Singh]

Yeah. There's no smoke here at all.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

It's just us just running wild with our imaginations.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

Dude, why. Why is Trump Dog not. Not running for it? You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

Can we. Did you. Can you play when he fucking. What he said.

[Mark Gagnon]

Oh, this is so funny, by the way, in the full context of understanding what's going on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

Because he's doing a press, like, basically a press conference regarding these horrific floods that happened in Texas.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

Where many children got swept away.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

So you care about kids a lot.

[Mark Gagnon]

So he's talking about children's lives.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

Then they bring up Epstein and he's like, what are you bringing up Epstein for? We're talking about kids that are missing. You know what I mean? We're not going to talk about the other kids that are missing. What do you. Why keep talking about it?

[Alex Media]

And I'm disappointed in Trump, man. He didn't go to Texas. And Steph Curry, some paper towel rolls and like that. Like, come on, bro. What happened?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Alex Media]

Used to stand for something.

[Akash Singh]

That would have been so funny.

[Andrew Schulz]

Are you still talking about Jeffrey Epstein? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking. We have Texas. We have this. We have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable. Do you want to waste the time and you feel like answering? I don't mind answering. I mean, I can't believe you're asking a question, Epstein, at a time like this where with having some of the greatest success and also tragedy with what happened in Texas. It just seems like a desecration. But you go ahead. Sure, sure. First to back up on that in February. So we're stupid.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, we're.

[Andrew Schulz]

We're the fucking idiots. Guys just let you know, we are wasting time.

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[Andrew Schulz]

That is like, in all seriousness, that is. That is I think what is enraging people right now is it's insulting our intelligence. Like, obviously the intellig community is trying to cover it up. Obviously, the Trump administration is trying to cover up. Something changed because they ran on this idea of exposing it all. These guys had great ideas. Cockeyed cash clips, dog.

[Akash Singh]

He had bars.

[Andrew Schulz]

They were. He was ready to tear it all down. He was ready to tear down the entire FBI office, shut down the Hoover Building. Day one, day one.

[Akash Singh]

That still standing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Then he goes on Joe Rogan and he's like, listen, do you think if I had it, I wouldn't share it with you?

[Akash Singh]

I do.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I do. I. I do believe that 100%. Especially when you're staring at me like this, telling me that. How cockeyed is he?

[Mark Gagnon]

You sends a few. Can we get a photo of him?

[Andrew Schulz]

Really? Once you protect pedophiles, you are the most cockeyed person in the entire world. I never call them cockeyed cats before.

[Akash Singh]

See all the other people raping the children?

[Andrew Schulz]

He just stared at the bridge of his nose over here. I watched all 3,000 hours of footage.

[Akash Singh]

Yo, maybe I'm. Maybe I'm. Maybe I'm wrong on this, but if. Okay, you keep talking about this ep, they keep talking about this epine list. I got the list on my. On my desk. Now they're saying nothing happened. So one or two things in my mind, is it possible one, you're covering it up, or two, nothing really happened and you exploited the rape of thousands of children to get your man elected. So which one do you want here? Because that one, to me sounds just as bad, if not worse. Also, guys, show dates. We just added a bunch of new cities. I'm going to be in Kansas City August 1st and 2nd. Perrysburg, Ohio, August 8th. Those. I'm going to be honest, those tickets are selling out way faster than I thought they were. Would the Saturday early Show already almost sold out. I hate Toledo. I'm surprised you guys like me. Liberty Township, Ohio. I'm coming August 22nd, 23rd. Dania beach in Florida in September, Dubai. Those tickets are almost sold out. Y' all should hurry up and buy them for Dubai Comedy Festival. Bunch more [e-mail] Also next week, I'm doing my own podcast. I want to talk to some brown people that I wanted to talk to. So the Akash Singh show is dropping next week. Please check it out. The first episode I'm very excited about. It's pertinent to everything that's going on in India and I'm excited you guys to listen. And comedy. I love y'.

[Andrew Schulz]

All.

[Akash Singh]

Thank you.

[Mark Gagnon]

What's up, guys?

[Akash Singh]

Mark just suck his dick at the show.

[Andrew Schulz]

All right, four words.

[Mark Gagnon]

Texas, Austin, Texas, Stanford, Connecticut, Levittown, Washington, D.C. chandler, Arizona, San Diego, Burlington, Vermont, Montreal, Toronto, Berkeley, Detroit, a bunch of other dates, getting at it. I can't wait to see you guys at the show. I'll be doing one hour of stand up comedy that no more, no less. One perfect hour.

[Akash Singh]

60 minutes in a blowjob.

[Mark Gagnon]

See you guys at the shows.

[Alex Media]

And if you want to see Mark in New York City, go to cancel Comedy X on IG tickets in the bio. Peace.

[Andrew Schulz]

Go through both scenarios. Yeah. Okay, let's go for the first one of covering it up. Yeah. So what does covering it up mean?

[Mark Gagnon]

Either there is an intelligence operation that's happening within the United States that is aiding and abetting the exploitation of children. It's not great. Our taxpayer dollars go to this in some type of CIA black budget. So we're now complicit in this thing. But it's for the greater good of America.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right.

[Mark Gagnon]

So we kind of are like, all right, fine. Or Trump is implicated in some direct way because obviously he knew Jeffrey Epstein from back in the day, or both of those things.

[Andrew Schulz]

So let's, let's talk about these two scenarios. So if this is an intelligence operation, like I remember when people are blaming it on Israel, it would be better if it was another country. Like, wouldn't you rather your own country did not be the one that was plotting, planning, and exploiting these little girls like this? You would hope it was another country. But let's say, for example, it is an American intelligence. Maybe it's America and Israel. That's kind of what it feels like. I mean, there's like an insane amount of ties to Israel in this. So. But let's say it is an intelligence operation, like you just said, that our taxpayer dollars are going towards the sex and abuse of children. Do they have this conversation with Cash, Bongino, Trump and the administration and basically go, what do you want to do, guys? Yeah. Do you want to tell the entire country that the CIA and potentially the FBI that our organizations were doing this and that we're in on this and this is how ugly we are? What will that mean for the rest of the world? How will the rest of the world view us? What are we capable of? We're supposed to be the good guys. We're supposed to be heroes. What is the collateral damage of sharing this with the world? Do you Think they share that information with Trump? I'm just asking you guys. I just want to explore that one for a second.

[Mark Gagnon]

I mean, you'd imagine that in order to keep the files from coming out, it's got to go all the way to the top, is my assumption.

[Andrew Schulz]

Assumption.

[Mark Gagnon]

Unless there's some type of, like, hidden agreement where it's like, hey, we're going to protect him from information so that he doesn't sound crazy and he can just kind of run with whatever the mainstream narrative is. But the fact that his tune is even switched up leads me to believe.

[Andrew Schulz]

That he knows something. So the reason he knows it, because he's like, we're gonna. We're gonna showcase. We're gonna talk about this guy. He. They ran on it. They ran on, you know, cleaning out the swamp. They ran on all these.

[Mark Gagnon]

They brought all the influencers, gave them all binders with all the. That was all redacted to.

[Andrew Schulz]

Do you remember this? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They tried to promote this. Like, they were. They were building this excitement up for us to just get. I don't know. What is it? What is the term? Like, the wind taken out of our sails. Yeah. So the fact that his tune has changed to. From, hey, let's have a social media moment with the binders to. You guys are still talking about this guy. Yeah, we're talking about. Because of you.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're the one that keeps the conversation going when you hand out the binders to the social media influencer. Yeah. You're the one that keeps a conversation.

[Mark Gagnon]

Going when your FBI director goes on podcast and says, nothing happened. He killed himself.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Okay. So it has to go to him, Especially for him to go. Why are you guys still talking about this? Because you wanted us to talk about it. Yeah. You promoted it. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

There is a possibility that it's not directly CIA. FBI. Sometimes this happens with, like, military ops, where, like, former agency guys will go off and create a shell company that kind of operates in, like, the gray area of the law.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

And they'll do operations, and typically, it's like, surveillance and shit like that. And the CIA will contract them, and so they operate kind of as a private company. That can't be foia. They can't have all their files taken out, and the CIA still gets all.

[Andrew Schulz]

The information, but either way, it's still CIA.

[Mark Gagnon]

Sure. But it just gives a separation for them.

[Andrew Schulz]

Sure, sure, sure. But.

[Alex Media]

But Epstein was doing this for over 25 years. Like, I. They were. They know.

[Mark Gagnon]

Right. Listen, he's getting opera deals of Course, Alex.

[Andrew Schulz]

A car Acosta said on record. We have this on record. Alex Acosta was, I think, at the time, the District Attorney in Palm Beach.

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah. Miami. Palm Beach.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. And then later was about to be Secretary of Labor. Yes. And then had to step down because of the connections. I think he was. He was Secretary of Labor and then had to step down. But he said he was the guy who gave the sweetheart deal to Epstein. He said, I did it because I was told he was intelligent. I was told to back off because he was intelligence. That is said that is that you cannot wipe that clean from the record. That has been said by a. I don't want to say trusted source, but a source that is reliable and knows the weight of their words. Yeah, right.

[Mark Gagnon]

And I think that was in the hearings to become Trump's Labor Secretary.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, I thought that that was okay, but go on.

[Mark Gagnon]

I think while they're interviewing him, they're like, by the way, what was up with the sweetheart deal? Da, da, da, da. What was up with the Epstein thing? Because they're looking at his whole career. Career and a kid, I think you looked at.

[Alex Media]

I think he also said that at the time. Yeah, at the time when he gave him the sweetheart.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Okay.

[Alex Media]

Because people were upset about that.

[Mark Gagnon]

Right. And so, yeah, from my understanding, while he's in the briefing with the Trump Cabinet team, he basically was like, yeah, I was told to stand down.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

From someone above me. I think it was like the exact quote.

[Andrew Schulz]

So to me, I think that's where we can at least we can have some confidence that he does have connections to the intelligence community.

[Akash Singh]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right. So bare minimum, there's connections maximum. This is this, like, massive blackmail ring. It's not not only black rail blackmail, they've inserted themselves in governments. They serve as a royal family. They serve themselves in, like, American intelligentsia, the highest levels of our universities. Like, this is everywhere. Right. It's not just as much as, like, you're a president. Let me go you. Right, right, right. You know, let me get you to a girl. It's everybody. It's like inserting yourself in every. Every piece of, like, influence in American culture. Yeah. And the world route. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So Trump either is told that if we release the details on this, it will destroy confidence in America at home and abroad. Yeah. Because what country runs a child blackmail ring on its own people? Yeah, yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

It's a tough look, and that says a lot because, you know, most military budded go towards pretty awful things.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

You know What? I mean, it's like, yeah, we're cool. Killing kids over there.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know them here. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

Dude, do the Iraqis. Don't. Don't do us.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah. Like, what would the collateral damage of that be? How would we react to that? What if we found out our Alphabet agencies were doing that? Like, yeah, it wouldn't be ideal.

[Alex Media]

The thing I don't get is that what new information happened because Trump's first four years, this is when he got locked up. This is when he would have been told already.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's also true.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah.

[Alex Media]

That, hey, this is. He's intelligence. This can compromise us. Don't release it.

[Mark Gagnon]

So then why would you choose to run on.

[Andrew Schulz]

And that's.

[Alex Media]

Why run on this.

[Akash Singh]

That's a good point.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I think that. Okay, so let's, let's, let's go through that difference. There. There's a version where it's like, because I've said this even before the pod, where it's. The Democrats from the Biden administration had access to this. Right. And if Trump was in it, this is like a piece of logic. If Trump was in it or connected, they would have used it against him. Like, they used everything against him. They went after him for money. They went after him for. I mean, like, the complete power of the justice system. And any other system they had at their disposal, they used against Trump.

[Akash Singh]

Unless your guys are also implicated.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's. I didn't consider that. I thought that Trump was clean from it because he had rallied against it so hard, he'd ran off it. All the people that he's hiring are people that are going after it and essentially promoting themselves on it. Right. But there is a version where it's like, what is it? It's like a mutual short destruction. Yeah. So it is nukes on everybody. So therefore they're like, we could go after Trump with this, but by exposing Trump as part of this thing, it might expose all the other people or confirm that it is an actual blackmail ring. And once it's confirmed it is an actual blackmail ring, we got to see how far this goes. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

And it might not even implicate, like, Democrat politicians. Like it likely does. But it doesn't necessarily need to, because by our guys, you could just mean the U.S. government.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes. The intelligence community is involved in it. Okay.

[Alex Media]

I think it's either US Government or rich donors.

[Andrew Schulz]

So there is a version of this where he is involved. Right. That's not completely clean just yet. He is involved. To what extent we do not know. But it's not like the most absurd thing. Right. Like, the guy was partying with Epstein, I think.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right.

[Alex Media]

So his name was in the black book.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think Trump's fucked a hooker or two in his life. That wouldn't be, like, the most shocking thing.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

To ever hear right now. Is he asking for ID every single time? I don't know. And that's part of the. That's probably the name of the game, right. Yeah. You get the girls that are 16 or whatever to go, and then the guys aren't asking questions. You fuck them, and now you got it all on video.

[Mark Gagnon]

Also, just one note on the Acosta thing. So it says when. When Questions resurfaced in 2019 about why Epstein received such a light sentence, Acosta allegedly told Trump's transition team the following. I was told Epstein belonged to intelligence and to leave it alone. So that was the exact quote. So it was never like, in some type of, you know, like, court of law where he can't purge himself?

[Andrew Schulz]

Who told you that? No, that's what I want to know. Alex Acosta goes, I was told that he's intelligent. Who.

[Mark Gagnon]

Now, he's never confirmed this or this alleged in a public state.

[Akash Singh]

Do we know who said he said that? Or the Trump's team say that?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no.

[Mark Gagnon]

I mean, again, this was in 2008 that this happened.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay, okay. So then let's go through the other scenarios.

[Mark Gagnon]

So Trump is compromised.

[Andrew Schulz]

So Trump's compromised. Let's. Let's go through. There's another scenario. Let's assume Trump isn't compromised, but the intelligence communities come into him, and they basically say, this is us. This is what we do. There are a lot of people here that are going to go down if you out this. And the reality is you're not going to out this. And I would like to take this a little further. There's a version where the intelligence community comes in, they go, you don't really run the country. You get to make a lot of decisions, and that's fine. But you look the other way at the things we do, and we look the other way at the things you do. And then once the things you do cross paths with the things that we do, we remind you that you don't really run the country. And maybe that's what. And I'm not trying to give Putin credit here, but remember when Putin said that thing about, like, you know, every American president. What is it? Every American president has these great ideas, and then once he gets elected, the real men that run the country, the men in suits walk in and tell him what the deal is.

[Akash Singh]

Oh, I was not even thinking about that. I was thinking about how Putin kind of told the oligarchs whenever he took over, like, this is my shit now.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah.

[Akash Singh]

And I was thinking Trump could have done on that.

[Andrew Schulz]

So. And that wouldn't be that shocking to me because the idea that, like, we have a new person running the country every four years or eight years and they plot the course of America for the next 300 is kind of absurd, right? Like, there has to be some version of permanent government. Obviously it's not established and it's. They're not like, speaking about, they're not shining a light on it. But, like, there must be some version of this permanent government that, like, maintains the course and does fucked up shit to maintain the course, just like every other country that's run as a dictatorship does fucked up shit to maintain the course. So it wouldn't be shocking to me that that happened. Maybe he's involved, maybe he's not involved, but he could have had a conversation. They could have come up to him and be like, you know, we missed on purpose, right? Like, they could have sat him down a room, you know, we missed on purpose, right? He goes, what? He goes, the guy who had the perfect shot on you from 100 meters away or whatever. Like, we missed on purpose. You didn't look at a fucking sign. Looking at the sign got you closer. But we missed on purpose and we won't the next time unless you tell people to look the other way about this absent shit. To me, I would not be surprised at all if the CIA and the FBI actually are running the country and we get to bicker about little shit. They go, oh, let them fight about abortion, you know, let them fight about hate speech. Let them fight about this. And. But the real decisions, like, if we're going to send more fucking aid to Ukraine, if we're going to send more aid to Israel, those decisions are already made because we continue to make them despite Americans not wanting them. The same fucking decision gets made, right, over and over again.

[Mark Gagnon]

And this is my theory with, like, are politicians individually corrupt? Like, perhaps. But I wonder if just the throne is like the institution, the systems in place are just like, inherently kind of corrupt. And so you can have people like Cash, who's probably like, working in good faith while he's campaigning and, like, on the buildup and like, all of his time as a, was a prosecutor for the state, like, he's like, doing good work and then gets into role Gets read in on a brief and goes.

[Andrew Schulz]

All right, never mind.

[Mark Gagnon]

You know what I mean? Like, like to me that seems like the most logical thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

I believe that about Trump. I believe when Trump, everything he campaigned on, I believe he wanted to do. And now he's doing the exact opposite thing of every single fucking thing, what he's done.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, exactly. To your point, if you tell me me, I, it's easier for me to believe you. You wanted to do all these things if any of them were happening in.

[Andrew Schulz]

The way that you said to that point, like there'll be people that like, they'll DM me be like, you see what, you see what your boy's doing? You voted for this. I'm like, I voted for none of this. He's doing the exact opposite of everything I voted for. I want him to stop the wars, he's funding them. I want him to shrink spending, reduce the budget. He's increasing it. It's like everything that he said he's going to, to do except sending immigrants back every. And now he's even flip flopped on that, which I kind of like. But he's like, oh, well, we kind of need the people working in restaurants and we need our farmers. It's like everything that he said that he was going to do, that he.

[Akash Singh]

Campaigned, he said to us, which was important and I thought it was good he pressed him on it. Well, you got to start with the criminals in terms of deporting. Yeah, I don't think he's. I don't even know if the criminals are getting sent back. I know there's a lot of people with gris, people with green cards getting sent, sent back. There's, there's people who aren't criminals getting sent back. I don't know if you're sending back the criminals first. You're definitely doing it first. I don't know if you're sending them back at all. So nothing has happened.

[Alex Media]

And you were more optimistic than I was because I judge him by his first four and it was Mr. Dream the Swamp, Mr. Build the Wall, Mr. Like, he didn't do a lot of the stuff he promised in the first floor. So why would anything.

[Andrew Schulz]

I already expect politicians to not do most of the they, they say and now, and I don't want to be like too cynical, but like now I'm getting to the point where it's like, can they do anything? I think the reason why, and I don't know if this is necessarily intelligent, but I think the reason why, Mom, Donnie is exciting to People is the same reason why Trump was exciting to people. When you are so fed up with the status quo, when you feel like the status quo will do nothing and change nothing, you have way more of a longer leash for the outsiders ideas than you do the status quo's ideas. Whatever Cuomo says, I don't even know if I believe it because he's status quo. So I'm like, ah, it's just gonna be the same old fucking bullshit. Mamdani comes in with these wild ideas that he cannot do. Like most of them, he literally just physically cannot do them. But people are so, I'm putting this under quotes, desperate for something else. They're like, maybe he'll pull it off. And I think that was the idea with Trump. It was like, maybe he will stop these wars. Maybe. No, maybe we will see what's up with this Epstein shit.

[Akash Singh]

No, and I'll take this a step further with what we talked about, we talked about on Patreon with Madani. I like that he might even endeavor to do these things. Yeah, I don't. That was the term we kept using. I don't even see Trump endeavoring to do any of the things that he said he was going to do. Seems like he's just as much the big problem with Kamala. I didn't vote for Trump, but I didn't look at Kamala like, she was exciting because it was the same exact thing Trump is. Kamala. I don't know if this country is anything different depending on who gets elected.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think that he did try. That is. And again, I might look at this through like, was it rose colored glasses? But like, I think he did try. Like, I think with the wars, he literally did try. I think earnestly he's talking to Putin thinking he can make it happen. But I also think his hubris got the best of him. Like, I think he's going, yeah, I'm just going to go over there and tell him that we're going to do no more wars. And then he realized, oh, shit, Putin really wants to reunite the Soviet Union.

[Mark Gagnon]

That's the thing. Like, Trump is a business person, like a business negotiator. And I don't know if he anticipated the ideologues.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Mark Gagnon]

I mean, I don't think Trump is like a pure ideologue. Like, I don't think he's like, we need to make a Christian nation, because that is what matters. I think he's just like a business guy and then he's dealing with someone like Putin that is ostensibly A pure ideological. Or like the ayatollah that is ideological in all of their politics. And then when he gets into that position, he's like, well, what leverage do I have? These people willing to die for their country, they're willing to, like. They're willing to do anything to further their agenda. Like, there's no reason that can be had because it's purely ideological and not fiscal.

[Andrew Schulz]

He can't meet them at an economic breaking point. When you're a businessman, you can find something the other team wants, right?

[Alex Media]

He can with Bibi.

[Andrew Schulz]

Say again? Yeah, he can.

[Alex Media]

He can absolutely do that with Bibi.

[Mark Gagnon]

I don't know if that's true, because, again, if he's sort of in the right wing of the Israeli government, that's purely ideological. It's like, we want to create a greater Judea.

[Andrew Schulz]

You have to look into the Likud Party and see what they want, and then you'll understand what Mark is saying. Because what they want is purely ideological. And the only thing that will satisfy them is executing that ideology. And when you're locked to that ideology, there's really no swaying. Like, when you bring divine intervention into things, there's no negotiating with God.

[Mark Gagnon]

We need our.

[Alex Media]

I understand maybe not convincing Bibi to change his course, but if you rely on us for defense, we can stop our support bombs. Rely on us for resources, we can stop our support even easy. And be like, yo, you guys better make a deal or I'm cutting off the dollars.

[Andrew Schulz]

So. So here's the question. Here's the question.

[Alex Media]

Really wanted to.

[Andrew Schulz]

Here's the question. That's what we all believed, right? All of us believe that. We're like, why? America does not support this shit that's going on here. None of us do. We're seeing the death and we're seeing the destruction. We're like, what the has happened? Why do we keep supporting this? Like, what is going on? It seems to feel, at least at this point, that. That through AIPAC or maybe through other means, there's incredible influence on our politicians. I mean, Ted Cruz is just tap dancing for Israel left and right. I think on July 4, he had some tweet about the Entabi mission where they got like, the.

[Akash Singh]

It was the biggest cuck in the history of Iraq.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, y' all voted for him. Only in Texas could he be a politician. Yeah, only in Texas could some Canadian guy end up being one of your senators.

[Akash Singh]

I hate it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Take that shit on the chin. Talk to your people. I tried some booger lip bitch running your Fucking. I wonder why the electricity shuts off.

[Alex Media]

Every New York we voted for. What was the guy Santos or whatever.

[Andrew Schulz]

This fucking the George Santos? Yeah. That's not New York City. All right.

[Mark Gagnon]

At least he lied. You know what I mean? At least Santos was like, yo, I'm in the military.

[Andrew Schulz]

What the. You said he told you all the.

[Akash Singh]

Good Texas gotta eat Ted Cruz is. Y' all keep voting for this.

[Mark Gagnon]

Told the truth and still got elected.

[Akash Singh]

Embarrassing.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's him.

[Akash Singh]

I mean, seeing him wear cowboy boots like it's a costume. Like, get the out of here. You're like some comic who just moved to Austin and throws on cowboy boots.

[Mark Gagnon]

Santa would never.

[Alex Media]

Yeah, next thing he'll be is have aluminum foil on his hat.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, but, like, it seems like there is this. And look, yo, they should be doing that shit. Every country should be trying to do that. Every country should find a way to make America do the shit that they want, Right? That should be the objective of Great Britain. It should be objective of all these countries. But once the American people become aware of it, you can't just call it, say it's anti Semitism for pointing it out. There needs to be a discussion, right? I think we had this conversation. I don't even know if it's on the last pod or maybe it was on Patreon. But, like, if you call everything anti Semitism, people get quiet because they don't want to be called an anti Semite. They have tons of friends that are probably Jewish. They're like, I don't want them to think that I don't want them.

[Mark Gagnon]

They might work in entertainment.

[Andrew Schulz]

They might want a career, right? So they get silenced. And then the only people having the conversation are the lunatics on the extremes who are actual anti Semites, right? And they control the discourse. And now Nick Fuentes is controlling the discourse, right? And it's like, maybe if we had this discussion right here about, like, the influence on American politics from a foreign nation, if we had it just with normal people that don't have any hate in their system, but they want something different for America. Maybe if we had that conversation without the fear of being called an anti Semite, we wouldn't be in a much less hateful place right now.

[Alex Media]

And this is not the best comparison, but I think the early days of maga, like, anybody who was MAGA or voting for Trump, if they spoke out that they were for Trump, so they were all quiet. And the only people we heard from were the extreme MAGA ones. And now to everyone else, it's like, oh shit. They are fucking racist and extreme ones in the middle. It's like boom. Like so I think it's a.

[Andrew Schulz]

You have to let the normal people have the. Like when a normal parent goes, why did my 8 year old come back from school today and say that they're queer? Like, what is, what's going on? What are you teaching my 6 year old in school? Like, what the fuck? And then they go and ask the school and then they get called a bigot. You freak out and you stop saying anything. And then the only people who are having the conversation about what's happening at school are these lunatics going, they want to chop off all our kids dicks. And in school you have to let people ask questions.

[Alex Media]

Yeah, that's his younger generation. You got David kissing Miles for no reason.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's confused, man.

[Akash Singh]

Let's bring this back to Trump. Aipac, let's say, okay, he finds out AIPAC is kind of running things with all of these politicians. How are they running things? Ostensibly giving them money. You're Trump, you don't need their money. Your whole platform for eight years has drained the swamp. So you can't go against Bibi. Like, I just don't let him off the hook.

[Andrew Schulz]

So what are do they to going on Trump?

[Akash Singh]

That's a question.

[Andrew Schulz]

Or do they have the epineph?

[Akash Singh]

Or has he? Or he Maybe even more reasonably, he's just kind of run selfishly this whole time. And he never really cared about our well being. I don't know that he did because none of the actions have shown me differently. His words did.

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[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

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[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know if I believe none of it has happened. I think that, like, fair.

[Akash Singh]

Maybe I'm being too extreme.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Akash Singh]

And I believe it has not.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think that. I think that, like, there are certain things that he said he wants to do and it seems like happened, like immigration, Immigration. Illegal immigration has pretty much stopped. Yeah. Like, illegal border crossing is pretty much stopped. And that is a massive thing that he ran on. My fear of saying none of it happens. No, that's fair. It basically stops anybody from listening to the other very good points that you have, and I think you have, like, really good nuanced points about this that we should be holding him to the final.

[Akash Singh]

That's fair.

[Andrew Schulz]

Thanks for giving me grace. What does Christians do, you fucking bigot. But no, it's like the immigration. Absolutely. He said he wants to do the tariffs. Who knows what happens with the tariffs? But these are the things that he said he's doing in negotiating these different deals with the other country. There are clearly things he's trying to. Trying to do. But I think that there are other things that, like, are above his level of power, it feels, at least right now. And I could be completely wrong. He just doesn't have the power to do certain things. He doesn't have the power to tell Israel what the fuck that. That they can do in Gaza. He just doesn't have the power to do it. It seems like they just don't have it. It seems like a lot of these politicians just don't have the power. You're supposed to be in a position of power, but your balls are tied.

[Alex Media]

And the way he goes about stuff, it's like fast and loose. It. I don't.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm.

[Alex Media]

He's a great businessman, so of course he knows what he's doing, but sometimes he's just like.

[Andrew Schulz]

He talks.

[Alex Media]

He talks a good game. And then he's like, ah, I'll figure it out after. And I think with the Epstein stuff, he's like, yo, we're gonna give him stuff. Like, we'll redact a bunch of shit. Like, don't worry about it. And then when they did that, they ended up giving them redacted files of less information than what we already know.

[Andrew Schulz]

There was more information out. They redacted it. There was more public information available. They redacted pieces of the publicly available information and then handed it.

[Alex Media]

It's like missteps just like with this video, he thought like, oh, let's give him something. It's like, yo, by giving us this, you're making it seem even worse.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's a great, There's a. What's it called? It's like once you lie, you have to tell more lies to protect the lie. And every lie erodes the trust that we, we have in you. And that's what it feels like is happening. There is one lie, which is Epstein did not have this global blackmail ring of the elites of the intelligentsia of the royal family, who, the big businessman, like, he just had a blackmail ring on all these very influential people. And by saying that that didn't happen, you have to tell a lot of other little lies to make that lie make sense. And every one of them just pulls a little piece of thread away from the fabric and we're starting to see right through right now. And it's just embarrassing. Yeah, but this is good. It's like there's a good. We should know how our country operates. You know, we should know. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

You think you do them? Like, do you really want.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, we don't want.

[Akash Singh]

We don't want to.

[Andrew Schulz]

But like if, if we are invested in making some sort of positive change.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Progress, you know, we want some sort of progress. Like, like, I'll be honest with you. Like, I think one of the things that was really refreshing about Mamdani is him in that press conference saying like, I'm gonna. I'm not going to Israel. I'm gonna stay here and I'm gonna do what is best for the people in New York City. Like, I think that was an important message. Right. People keep on calling him anti Semitic or whatever like that. And I don't know what his feeling on Jews is. Right. But like right now where it feels like so many politicians are bought him putting like a massive spotlight on the. The fact that he's not. And he wants you to know that. I think that that was very refreshing for a lot of people.

[Mark Gagnon]

Kind of Trump esque. It was just a weird comparison, but it just shows that he's ready.

[Andrew Schulz]

You ready? It's America First. The only party right now that to me seems America first is the Democrat Socialist Party.

[Alex Media]

Yep.

[Andrew Schulz]

Bernie is America First. Mamdani and all his ideas that he will not be able to execute. And I frankly think many of them are not good ideas. Even if they do execut. I frankly, I disagree with him. But he is no doubt New York First. Who knows if he can actually do these things? For New York. But the policies seem to want to help people here. That's what I care about. And if MAGA wants to take this America first thing back, they got to start looking out for America. It doesn't seem like they're doing. Lying to Americans is not America first.

[Mark Gagnon]

I mean, I guess it's philosophy, right? Like is American isolationism better for America and the long run?

[Akash Singh]

No. What is it? What is it?

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't think we, I don't think we have to be. Sorry to cut you. I don't think we should be isolated. That's not what I'm saying. I don't want to be isolated.

[Akash Singh]

What is the appearance of constantly backing Israel at every turn? Making some, Making such a. Bringing BB on and calling him the greatest human on earth? What is the appearance? Do you appear America first or do you appear bought by another country with a much smaller population?

[Alex Media]

Look at the big beautiful build. It's like increase military spending. Now you're cutting Medicaid. Medicaid, fucking snap. You're giving tax cuts to the rich. It's like.

[Akash Singh]

And whether you, and you can agree with, you can agree or disagree with Medicaid, snap, whatever. Let me just say this to you to add to your point. Those people are Americans. And if you're saying like, hey, we need to go fight this war, I'm agreeing with you. If you're saying we need to go fight this war for people over overseas while you're cutting Medicaid and SNAP for Americans, to both of your points, you don't appear America first, just not philosophically.

[Alex Media]

How many times are we going to try this trickle down economic like it doesn't work.

[Akash Singh]

They're not even using the term.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know they're not even pretending, but that's what it is.

[Alex Media]

Like it doesn't work. We've tried it so many times, it doesn't work.

[Akash Singh]

Here's the thing, they're not even pretending it's a philosophy. They're just saying, no, no, no, we're giving tax cuts to the rich and we're cutting this. They're not even saying it's going to benefit you in the long run.

[Alex Media]

I think they're not even prophesying nothing.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's crazy. I think there has to be some sort of. It's too black and white, right? It's like either rich people get to keep their money or they get tax crazy. And then that money just essentially is like given to the poor. And I think that there should be this middle ground where it's like Give poor people opportunity. Opportunity is what Americans want. They don't want just cash. Cash is fun. You go buy some shit, whatever you want. The opportunity for upward mobility. So what are the programs that we can set. Set up and there will be government run and that won't work. Or maybe we can find a way to privatize those programs but still give people opportunity for Apple. Yes. Upward mobility. That's all people really want. All these people that voted for Mamdani, they're all making 90, $100,000 a year. Like they make money. Okay? It's not the poor people that are voting for Mandani. It's the white kids who kind of grew up with money. They went to college, they did all the right things, and now they don't see any version where they will have upward mobility. They're going to be renting until they're 50 years old. Like, they just don't see it. And they're like, have I been sold? What is that Martin Luther King thing? Like, I feel like I've been sold, like a false bill of goods. I've. I've entering my. My people.

[Akash Singh]

No, I'm a lot of pressure.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm bringing my people into a burning house, remember?

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, sounds familiar.

[Andrew Schulz]

But yeah. Yeah. Are you fraud Puerto Rican? Yeah.

[Alex Media]

I used to say his speech every year.

[Andrew Schulz]

You forgot? I remember it. Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

Puerto Rican.

[Alex Media]

I was wondering why you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I just. Yeah, it's a.

[Alex Media]

Doesn't feel good, man.

[Akash Singh]

Doesn't feel a bad check. A check which has come back marked insufficient funds.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Alex Media]

Oh, you was off. I've come.

[Andrew Schulz]

We've.

[Alex Media]

You don't remember the bad check that king, which come by mark Insufficient.

[Andrew Schulz]

Remember that king stated that America had given black people a bad check. A check that has come back marked insufficient funds. That is. Is what a college education is right now, when you think about it. Right. He was referring to what was given to black people. But in terms of like, what has been given to this, what are the Gen Z? Is that it? Or even, I guess you could say millennials too. It's like you told us when we went to college there would be all this opportunity. We could use that education to, you know, get upward mobility in our life, to change our class. Right. To go from middle class to upper middle class to wealthy. Yeah. And the reality is, is like none of us used our college degrees to do that. Like, I had a college degree in psychology. Psychology, Right. I tell dick jokes. Yeah. I literally tell jokes about my sperm not swimming. There's no way college can prepare you for that. Yeah. And, you know, granted, obviously, there are people who are going to be doctors. They're going to people that are going to be engineers. They're going to make a lot of money. But even that, it feels like now with AI might be few and far between. Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

You know, dude, Kanye's album did resonate, his first album, College Dropout, because there was that feeling of like, oh, yeah, you go to college and it don't really get you. You much, like, aside from just making genius music, that was a thing. We were looking at that message like, oh, yeah, that guy's right. This is. I remember being in college, being like, yeah, I don't know, if. If I don't become a doctor, what am I going to do with this?

[Andrew Schulz]

Imagine you went to college, you working at Trader Joe's. Imagine you got $200,000 worth of debt. You working at Trader Joe's with a dude who graduated from high school. That dude who graduated from high school has way more upper mobility than you.

[Mark Gagnon]

The homeless guy asking you for money has less debt.

[Andrew Schulz]

You are more broke than the dudes on the street. You're never negative. Yeah. And that starts to weigh on people. And then when you hear Mom Donnie talk, and when you hear Bernie talk, and I'm sure when you hear AOC talk, it really resonates with you.

[Akash Singh]

And college debt forgiveness seems like, yo, you should forgive because you lied to me about what this degree would mean.

[Andrew Schulz]

I also think we got to hold the universities a little bit accountable. I think. I think the government actually did something good and benevolent. I think they said, we want our populace to be educated and we're going to back these loans no matter what. They didn't put a limit. And then these fucking grimy colleges were like, oh, they going back in no matter what. That tuition's going up, running up. That's some sinister shit. Like, we should see who is in control of these educational institutions and who made the decision to ramp up those prices because they knew that there was an endless bank account that was going to pay for it and saddled these kids with debt. Now, ultimately, we're responsible for taking on that debt. Like, we have agency. But there are some people that are pretty nefarious at these institutions. Just people.

[Alex Media]

It's just every institution, once that becomes the.

[Mark Gagnon]

It's like a systemic issue, right? It's like. It's just like we exist in a consumer, but the rate.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, the rate of inflation. I remember, I think my college was expensive when I graduated was 25k a year. Expensive. And then I went back 4 or 5 years later, it was 45k a year. Like that rate of inflation is crazy. That's crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

What were you saying? Systemic issue though.

[Mark Gagnon]

It's just like this is like American society at large since the 80s. Like we just consume. Like that is just like the nature of life. It's like we are consumption machines. We want to buy things, we're designed to buy things. Like we're like prompted with things that are like more distilled, like more tasty, like more appetizing. That just like drive us to buy more and more and more consistently. Like our phones break, we buy more. Like it's just built, built that way. And then we don't really produce as much. Like Post World War II, it's like we're making you have jobs, da da, da. But now it's like, okay, low prices, like just cater to the consumer and it just ripples through everything. Whether it's like health care where like, you know, prices go crazy and then insurance backs it, whether it's college loans, like whether it's the housing crisis, like it's just all like, yeah, just continue to consume. Because that is ultimately what grows our GDP the most.

[Andrew Schulz]

It grows our gdp, but it doesn't allow that upward mobility that we want. And what it does is really extend this like age of adolescence. Like the 40 year old in New York as I sit here with pants that barely come below my knees. I've been fortunate enough to like make some money and like get married and start a family. But like the 40 year old New York has the flat screen, has the nice phone, has like the cool accoutrements in their apartment, but still rents his apartment. It might not be married, doesn't have a family. And I think that they, that's where like things start to weigh on them. They go, when will I have a family? When will I make enough? If I'm kind of living paycheck to paycheck, I get to take a little vacation, you know, I get to go, go to Montauk with my friends for a week. And it's fun. But I don't really have a plan for a future. I don't really have a plan for adulthood.

[Mark Gagnon]

I forget which economist said this. This is something from back in college. But he basically said like, consumerist culture is the perfect form of slavery because it's slavery with no rebellion, because you have all your shit, you know, I mean, prices are low, you can't be oppressed.

[Andrew Schulz]

Mark, I got a Nintendo Switch. Exactly.

[Mark Gagnon]

And like, life is good and like our standard of living is so much higher than the rest of the world. World. But you can't actually own anything. And then the wealth gap increases. And so it's like, yeah, I have no reason to rebel.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right.

[Mark Gagnon]

Like, we have all the we need.

[Andrew Schulz]

We have food.

[Mark Gagnon]

Da da. Even though it's kind of bad for you. We have health care even though it's expensive, and we have education even though.

[Andrew Schulz]

You can't afford it.

[Akash Singh]

Consumers thing feels dirtier when it's healthcare or education. Or like, you convincing me I need an iPhone, I buy an iPhone, that's on me. You convince me my life will be better. Education feels like. You convince me I cannot have a life I get. Which I guess is all marketing, but it feels grimy with education and health. Healthcare, like, education is a fundamental need for me as a human being. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

For a democracy to exist and healthcare is inherently inelastic, so you need that.

[Akash Singh]

And the rate of inflation being what it is, it feels so dirtier than iPhone prices.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what we should have done with education and maybe we should just do it right now. Charge different amounts for different degrees. If you're getting a poetry degree, the cost of the education for a poetry major is far less than the education for a bio major.

[Mark Gagnon]

Give you money. You should be paid to go for the poetry degree. They're like, here's 10 grand.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Like, you should just have a cheaper way to get that education because one, then you're not going to be saddled with debt. If you want to study poetry and then go be a poet, at least you don't have $200,000 worth of debt. Maybe you got 40 grand worth of debt at the end and you could sustain that while you work in a cafe, you're a barista, and you're working on your art, and hopefully you make that into something. But if you spend $200,000 on an engineering education, you probably will get a job that will allow you to one day pay that off. You will not get that as a poetry, of course.

[Mark Gagnon]

But again, that is just, like, inherently antithetical to the system.

[Akash Singh]

Here's the other thing.

[Mark Gagnon]

Make more money. You know what I mean? Like, if we have 100 kids that are all willing to spend 50k, you know, a year.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

Like, why would we reduce half of them?

[Andrew Schulz]

I looked into this a little bit. That makes perfect sense. But apparently all these, like, liberal arts degrees are subsidizing the science degrees. So in other words, like, it costs far more to educate like you did bio in school. Like, it costs far more to educate you than somebody who's like a history major. So those history majors are essentially paying to keep your level of education down, which I guess is beneficial to those science majors. And maybe if it was too expensive for science majors, maybe a lot of them wouldn't do it. And we do want more science and engineering majors, but at the same time, don't make these people that don't have interest in that be saddled with this debt that will be so crippling that they'll just be like, no, of course.

[Akash Singh]

Here's where AI is changing everything. And we had an awesome conversation with Fareed, just to tease it a little bit, but he brought this up. Computer science majors, Fareed Zakaria from cnn. Computer science majors out of college have a higher unemployment rate than art history majors right now.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right, right. Obviously, advancements, technology will change these things. But, like, if you. If you went back, like, 10 years or something like that. Agreed. You'd see this.

[Akash Singh]

If we could do this 20, 30 years ago. Yes. That's what it should be like.

[Andrew Schulz]

You had a pathway, like, if you want to. Wanted. Yep. You're a smart guy. You had a pathway to becoming a doctor if you wanted, and you chose not to do that. That's your choice. But there was a pathway for you. And there's a pathway to being rich. Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

And if you're a poetry major, not really a pathway to being rich.

[Andrew Schulz]

And that's okay. You should be allowed to study that.

[Akash Singh]

And do what you love.

[Andrew Schulz]

And do what you love.

[Akash Singh]

But you shouldn't be saddled with the same debt as someone who goes on to be a doctor.

[Andrew Schulz]

And you shouldn't have to pay for someone's education because you don't want to be a scientist.

[Akash Singh]

No, that's valid.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's valid.

[Akash Singh]

Very valid.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't know. I think that we have to completely look at the college education system differently. Maybe not advanced education, maybe when you're getting, like, a business degree. Which is, like, kind of bullshit, if you ask me. Like, my wife got her mba and like, I think a lot of it was network networking. Yeah. Like, it. It's not even, like, things that she was. I don't want to say she didn't learn anything there. Of course she, like, learned things. But, like, the most valuable things was rubbing shoulders with these kids who are like a senator's kid or a hedge fund manager's kid. Like, building up your Rolodex. Yeah. So, yeah, I think we gotta change the way that at least Americans look at advanced education.

[Alex Media]

I think one potential fix could be the same way we do. All education before college is just have public and private. So all public universities should just be free so everyone has access to college and doesn't have to come out with grippling debt. And then hey, if you want to go to one of the better schools, you got to pay for it. And so that way it's like everyone has the opportunity to be educated, to get the degree, to get in the workforce. But you know, some people with more means are able to go to different schools and I think they should do the same thing with healthcare. All healthcare should be free. But hey, that's. You have the free doctors.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is what keeps you alive.

[Alex Media]

Yeah, exactly.

[Andrew Schulz]

The bare minimum to keep you alive.

[Alex Media]

Is you want to pay for private insurance just so you can see some of the better doctors. Hey, do you have the means and do what you should do? Like that should be across the board.

[Akash Singh]

Here's my question. How do you pay? Because it's more expensive to have a college than.

[Andrew Schulz]

Stop fighting wars for everybody. Yeah, it's like how you do it.

[Alex Media]

Right now with elementary school, with high school.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can you not blame, can you not blame Americans for being frustrated? Oh, when America is spending billions of dollars to fight wars for other countries that have free health care and free college. Yeah, yeah. Like it. It seems to me that those countries that they do care about their sovereignty more than anything in the world, as they should, that they should first be sacrificing those programs to pay for their sovereignty. As you before Americans are. Yeah. Am I crazy to say that? Not at all.

[Mark Gagnon]

No. Again, it's like just the idea like do you want to sort of come off of the geopolitical positions which again I'm not like a forever wars guy. I don't think we should be like supporting all these conflicts.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't want to, I don't want to come off of per se, but I want a conversation which is like, hey, you are fighting for your survival. How much does that survival matter to you?

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah, the most.

[Andrew Schulz]

It matters the most. Well then you're going to have to take your free health care and your college education budget that you've allocated for your people and you're going to have to put that into your safety and security. I don't think that that is a crazy thing to ask other countries if we are going to send them billions of dollars worth of bombs, even if it chips, chips away 1 billion. It's a, it's a statement that our support is, is Appreciated and not entitled. Yeah, I want to have great relationships with other countries, but I don't want it to have it at the sacrifice of our citizens. Our citizens should be taken care of first, and then if there is spillover after that, we should exert that power. But if you're telling. Not you're telling me, but if somebody's telling me like, we need to have this influence in the world, maybe we can't afford it. I would love us to have this influence in the world not at the sacrifice of our. Of our. Of our citizens.

[Alex Media]

And not that I agree with either war. I'm against all war. But I feel like in the early stages of Ukraine, when they raised the age limit for their citizens to fight, and I was like, all right, you know what you're sacrificing. I feel a little bit.

[Andrew Schulz]

Did they raise the age or lower the age?

[Alex Media]

Like they raised the age for people.

[Akash Singh]

To fight on the top end, you can. Whereas 40, you're out of war.

[Andrew Schulz]

I thought you meant, like, instead of 1821. Yeah. You mean like 50, the top.

[Alex Media]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

There should be no age.

[Alex Media]

But that's the thing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Do you want to survive as a country or not? And it's like everybody got to fight.

[Mark Gagnon]

Drive your rascal right over there.

[Andrew Schulz]

We get women playing baseball in America during World War II. We did everything we could to keep this country afloat. Oh, fucking Rosie o'. Donnell.

[Alex Media]

Yeah, but, yeah, that's. I was like, all right, you're at least doing everything you possibly could. And now we're offering some monetary.

[Andrew Schulz]

Women.

[Akash Singh]

Women get jobs.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is crazy. Factories, I know. Still paying for it, honestly. But I. I don't think that. That's like death.

[Akash Singh]

That never ends.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't think that's an unfair statement. Right. It's like, how important is your survival? How important is your sovereignty? How important is it to you? Okay. It is the. Of the utmost importance. Nothing is more important than that. Okay, well, you're going to have to sacrifice a little bit at home for that. Just like we had to. We turned our entire country into a military industrial complex during World War II. Ford stopped making Fords and they started making tanks. That's what we do.

[Akash Singh]

We change time to bank. That's where daylight savings came from. We push the clocks forward an hour so there's an extra hour of sunlight so you didn't lose electricity. I think they kept it going for other reasons, but that's how it started. Just everybody, hey, time is different now. That's it. You're all an hour ahead we need more. We need more electricity or save money.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's a commitment to sovereignty. And while I do want to, you know, help our allies, I do think it is important to have good relationships with our allies. I do do think that we need to also understand that they value our support, and it's not something they just feel like they can call and ask for at any point in time while not sacrificing anything at home. Yeah, you gotta. You gotta pay for some shit, yo. Yep.

[Akash Singh]

Thousand percent.

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah, I would. I guess I'd be curious to know the internal negotiation where it's like, yo, we're gonna help you out with this thing. We're gonna buy your weapons. And a billion dollars to you is not that much. That's like a quarter of our gdp.

[Akash Singh]

I hear that about Ukraine. You, I think, said that, where it's like a lot of that money and.

[Andrew Schulz]

Going to military industrial complex here.

[Mark Gagnon]

So they're like, why would we sacrifice our citizen' already being crushed by a foreign government or by a foreign military when we're. We're pumping all this money back in your economy, making you people rich. We're just asking for, you know, favorable deals on weapons.

[Akash Singh]

Da, da, da, da.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, somebody got to make the weapons. Weapons are free, right? So it's not like, like, if we're. Are we charging them triple for the weapons? Like, we're probably charging you the going rate for weapons. We're not charging you a vig on it. We're not charging you this crazy tariff. We're not doing, like, Iraq, where we, like, blow something up and build it up for 20 times the price. Like a wrench is $500. That's what we're doing. We can look into, see, but I doubt that that's what we're doing. That would be pretty egregious. That would be disgusting, Doug.

[Akash Singh]

The energy was so different when Zelensky sat down with Trump and J.D. vance and they little boyed him. Then when BB sat down, same. We're doing the same. We're helping you out. Why you coming in here? Zelensky had a little attitude, and J.D. vance was like, I don't think you're in a position to talk like this. Facts, which if you're America first, you cannot like it. Blah, blah, blah. That's America first for you're.

[Andrew Schulz]

We're.

[Akash Singh]

Daddy Didi sits down. Trump is like, this is the greatest human being on Earth.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why don't you ask him to with Trump, man? And he's like, yeah, it's just. It's kind of embarrassing to see. It's like, this is somebody. And Putin's fucking really good, too. Like, these guys, these, like, war hawk, like psychopaths, they're really good at geopolitics.

[Alex Media]

They're in the position for a reason.

[Andrew Schulz]

Exactly. They're in the position for a reason. They've maintained power for a reason, and they want to maintain that power. And Trump needs to know that going into these things, like, he could be played at every, every point, and he needs to be honest. Ps and Q's and that's how you maintain power. And it kind of feels like they can. They can fluff Trump's ego enough. You know what I mean? Like, Trump cares so much about the way he's perceived. Having power is more important than the way you're perceived to these guys. To Trump, it feels like the way he's perceived is more important than the power. Yeah, yeah. You know, because people come and be like, oh, you guys did it. You saved the day. You did all the things. Even though he outsmarted Trump and makes Trump support this thing that Trump doesn't want to support, what does Trump want?

[Akash Singh]

A Nobel Peace price. Is that power or is that perception?

[Andrew Schulz]

What is the first thing that Bibi says? I am nominating Trump for the Nobel Peace. I just fluff, fluff, fluff. It's like, yeah, I want to nominate Diddy, bro.

[Mark Gagnon]

Gotta know. Diddy for the Nobel Peace.

[Akash Singh]

Diddy and. And Epstein for just being wrongfully. You should get some kind of honor being wrongfully imprisoned for everybody. Everything he did.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. All these abusers. We really just got it wrong, huh?

[Akash Singh]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Dude, when we saw Diddy, just rag doll Cassie in that hotel, turns out.

[Akash Singh]

It was her fault.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Crazy.

[Akash Singh]

I couldn't believe what a terrible person she is.

[Andrew Schulz]

Every time we try to believe women, it backfires.

[Akash Singh]

I know, I know. We should have known. We should have learned better.

[Mark Gagnon]

So what happened? Did he get charged for that abuse?

[Alex Media]

No.

[Andrew Schulz]

No.

[Mark Gagnon]

Was that drunk?

[Andrew Schulz]

No.

[Akash Singh]

Because he didn't do anything wrong.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's right. It was, I think statute of limitations.

[Alex Media]

Yeah, statute put up on those charges.

[Andrew Schulz]

So they paid off the guy at the hotel or whatever to get the video, and then somehow the video gets leaked later on. God, what a scumbag.

[Alex Media]

At that hotel in la, I think you only have a year to file for domestic violence.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what's crazy about that?

[Akash Singh]

That's crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can I. Can I just tell you. Can I tell you something crazy about statute limitations?

[Akash Singh]

But a year is wild.

[Andrew Schulz]

What's up? It's like LA has the strictest. Or California has the strictest divorce laws in the country. Country. You don't even have to be married to a woman. If you guys just live together for 10 years, there's like a common law arrangement where they're entitled to have. Yeah. Yikes. Yeah. You could beat her. And as long as she's unconscious for a year, she can't do anything about it. If you beat a woman until she's in a coma for 366 days, you're good. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

Wow.

[Alex Media]

You just gotta just.

[Andrew Schulz]

But if you're married, if you're married to one for 10 years on how to happily, they get half your. Yeah, I mean that's living with one.

[Akash Singh]

Not even married, living with one.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't think California is common law. I think Bobby Lee said that on our pod it might not be common law, but there is this thing where. No. Yeah, there is this thing where like after 10 years, you guys domestic partnership or something. Okay. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

That's wild. Yeah, that kind of makes a bad sense because you, if you beat a woman and she's still kind of moving a little, you're like, ah, now I'm.

[Andrew Schulz]

Gonna have to make finishing moves.

[Mark Gagnon]

Come off the turnbuckle, people's elbow. Like that's your own. Like, what else are you gonna do?

[Alex Media]

You just gotta keep her scared so she doesn't want to speak up.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Alex Media]

Like what Diddy did.

[Mark Gagnon]

And also like abuse victims, like inherently, like they don't come forward immediately, you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Know, because they're getting the kicked out.

[Mark Gagnon]

They self internalize. Like, oh, no, it's actually my fault. He won't do it again. He's a good guy. Like it's cycles of abuse that keep people from saying anything.

[Akash Singh]

And I think she was young as when she met him, right? Not like illegal young, but like 19, 18, like you get somebody like that, you can hostage him up and pretty much believe in anything or being down or whatever.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. There was some text exchange where she's like, you know, I'm starting to believe you're just paying my rent so that I do these like sexual escapades and it's like, yeah, dumbass. Yeah. What the.

[Alex Media]

Did you Jane the other one?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, that was you idiot. Of course. Why else do you think he's paying your rent? Yeah. Have you guys watched a movie together? Have you ever hung out? No. He wants to watch guys jerk off on you. Yeah, like that's your job. Your job is to get jerked off on and then you get a half house. Like there Is a little bit of arrogance that comes with that.

[Alex Media]

Yeah, I mean, I'm sure he misled her to make her think like, oh, we're gonna be together and a bunch of empty promises and like that.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're talking about love bombing, right? Yeah. Like what we gotta call that something else.

[Mark Gagnon]

Wait, Love genocide.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm gonna go pee. All right, guys, stay break for a second, man. We have to stop talking about the geopolitical controversies in the world for just one moment because obviously Wimbledon is happening. Obviously people are engaged. Obviously people are excited. You right here. You think Novak Djokovic is going to win it?

[Akash Singh]

I think it's his last shot to win it. To win a grand slam. I think it's his last best shot. I think that guy Jannik sinner, the number one player in the world is hurt. The number three player was out. Sasha is zver and I think alcaraz is really good. But this is Novak's best surface. And this is his last. He's getting older. These young guys are so good. I just think they're better than Alcaraz.

[Alex Media]

Won this the last two years in a row.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, but this. That's what I'm saying. This is his last shot. After this, I don't think it happens for novemb. I think sinner is out. I think that hurt a lot. Zver of losing hurts a lot. All the guys that can outgun him for sure are out except Alcaraz. And Alcaraz still could well be putting.

[Andrew Schulz]

Your money on joke. I don't know.

[Akash Singh]

If I put my money, I might still put my money on Alcaraz. But this is the last. This is his best shot to win 40 retires.

[Mark Gagnon]

I think one more.

[Andrew Schulz]

Alex. Media, where would you put your money on Alcaraz? 100 Alcaraz. Okay, so Alcaraz is going to take it. Steak is where you're going to go. Put your money down. Stake is the leader in global betting. US social casinos been on task force political events and use the promo code flagrant for your welcome bonus. Now let's get back to the show. Maybe we wiling right now, but like the love bomb bombing. I just want the name to change like the. The of what it is. Like, don't call it a good thing. Love is good.

[Alex Media]

Bomb is bad.

[Andrew Schulz]

No bomb is bad. But like it's not. What's that?

[Mark Gagnon]

Sometimes it's good.

[Andrew Schulz]

Sometimes, yeah. Nagasaki bomb on stage from bombing. No, but like if it's not love, like that's that the. The reason it's manipulative. Is because it's not actually actual love. Like, these aren't real feelings you have for somebody. You're, like, lying to them. Lie bombing. Call it lie bombing. But, like, if you actually are in love with somebody, you know, like, you. You meet somebody that's like, you just. There are plenty of people, like, meet somebody and, like, they just fall in love with them, and they're like, the most amazing, and then they go and get married. Lovely.

[Mark Gagnon]

Does sound nice. Like, it does sound like I'm going to just rain down the fire of my enduring passion.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean?

[Alex Media]

Like, it sounds beautiful.

[Mark Gagnon]

Thank you.

[Andrew Schulz]

He's a little poet.

[Mark Gagnon]

That's what love bombing does to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

You Know what I mean?

[Mark Gagnon]

And then you find out it's bad. You're like, poetry education, bro. I paid 200 bucks for it. Can't complain. But it's like, yeah, you hear that.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're like, that sounds pretty good.

[Mark Gagnon]

And then you find out it's actually terrible. You're like, oh, gaslighting sounds bad.

[Andrew Schulz]

Gaslighting sounds bad. Like, if you. If you called it what it is, which is, like, just lying. I'm lying and manipulating you to get this thing that I want, then people would be like, oh, that's a really good phrase. Yeah, but I think girls call love bombing this. This thing. And it's just like, hold on. Being nice to you. Like, the communications off. Being nice to you is wrong. Like, I gotta be mean to a girl.

[Alex Media]

No, but what about the gifts? What about the trips and stuff? Like, that's not actually doing those.

[Andrew Schulz]

We gotta stop acting like they don't want that.

[Alex Media]

No, of course they want.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. So it's like, if you want it, you getting what you want out of this?

[Alex Media]

Yes. But these are the same activities that you do with your wife.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes.

[Alex Media]

Because you actually love her and want to be.

[Andrew Schulz]

I love bomb. That's what I'm saying. Stop, stop, stop putting the. Like the. The pepper on my.

[Alex Media]

No, you just love her.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Alex Media]

The bomb part is when after they'd gotten what they had, they just dip.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, that's.

[Alex Media]

I think the bomb.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think the term love bomb comes from the person receiving. They're being. Yeah. Bombed with love. Everybody wants to be bombed with love. I love my wife.

[Alex Media]

Showered with love.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Love bomb. It's fake love is what I think. Like, the perception is that the love isn't real. But I don't think bomb makes love not real. But when is bomb a good thing? But they feel it's real. Bath bomb. A bath bomb. Those Suck. A bath bomb is good. It's a great, relaxing, amazing thing. It's a bath bomb. Lip balm.

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah, lip balm.

[Andrew Schulz]

Don't worry about all that. Listen, lip balm is great. You want as much lip balm all over your lips, right? Your lips are dry, so you want lip balm. Yeah. A bug bomb.

[Mark Gagnon]

You set it off. Gets rid of all the termites and get rid of.

[Andrew Schulz]

Kills them. Yeah, yeah, but they. We don't. We don't call it love bombing. Them. Yeah. Right. So what? I think we got to get rid of love. Don't call it love. Lie bombing. I'm he. They're lie bombing. They're manipulating me.

[Alex Media]

You can just say lying.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, lying. He's lying to me. He don't really like me this much.

[Mark Gagnon]

Also, can I have a seshy?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yes, you can.

[Mark Gagnon]

Can you also disclose?

[Andrew Schulz]

Disclose. This is being disclosed. You know, I've invested money in this company, so we're disclosing right now.

[Mark Gagnon]

Thank you for disclosing.

[Andrew Schulz]

Disclosed.

[Akash Singh]

That's why I love. I got up when you were talking about love bombing.

[Andrew Schulz]

What is you. Right.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah. I just didn't want to. I. I just didn't want to do it. I didn't want to do it.

[Andrew Schulz]

All right.

[Mark Gagnon]

Can I paint a picture again, please?

[Akash Singh]

Bomb us with the picture.

[Andrew Schulz]

Has love bomb ever worked on a dude? Yes. Oh, no.

[Mark Gagnon]

You got.

[Andrew Schulz]

You got some dick out of me.

[Mark Gagnon]

No, the cold.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, my God. You love bomb me and you got some dick out of me.

[Mark Gagnon]

Every cold does this. Yeah, you got some dude. He's like, doesn't have a ton of friends all of a sudden, like, hey, we're your best friends. We love you.

[Akash Singh]

We're talking sexually here. I don't want. Don't take it. Tommy is rarely sexual.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let's talk about. You know what? Let's talk about sexual relationship. Let' about the cult, because I think what you're not putting enough weight on is the state that that human being is in. Is he susceptible to this love bomb or she's susceptible to this love bomb?

[Mark Gagnon]

I would say this is the same case with a relationship.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah. They would say they're preying on these people.

[Andrew Schulz]

So that person is prey. That person is going through something horrible in their life where they're susceptible. It's like hypnotism. Not everybody can be hypnotized. Right.

[Mark Gagnon]

They had a trauma in their past. They had an abusive parent, and now they seek that kind of same familiar love in their romantic relationships.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. So that's about what they went through. In their life. It's not about the actions of kindness and love. You should be kind and loving to somebody. That is a great thing that we should do. What does Christianity preach exactly?

[Mark Gagnon]

But what if you say, hey, let's go on a trip, let's go on my boat. And so.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yo, does Christianity. Should Christianity stop loving? No.

[Mark Gagnon]

Because they don't do the bad part.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. What do you mean they don't do the bad part? Hold on. What do you mean they don't do the bad part?

[Mark Gagnon]

Because they're not like, oh, if you leave the church, like, we're gonna. We're gonna cut you off from your family.

[Andrew Schulz]

Keep going on that. What? That's true. No, no, no, hold on. Keep going on that.

[Mark Gagnon]

If you, if you leave the Catholic Church, you're allowed to leave freely.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

If you leave like a Presbyterian Church.

[Andrew Schulz]

You go to hell for the rest. Yeah, that's free. That seems pretty free.

[Mark Gagnon]

As if you keep a relationship with Jesus.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

And then even then you have purgatory. You then can get.

[Andrew Schulz]

I think that what we would also. This is not an indictment Christianity, but I think that there are definitely situations where leaving the church means leaving your.

[Mark Gagnon]

Community and you are which people characterize as cults.

[Andrew Schulz]

As cults. So. So you're saying that Christianity is not living up to its ideals in that circumstance.

[Mark Gagnon]

Right? Yeah, I would consider that cultish.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's fair.

[Mark Gagnon]

I mean, if you're part of like a hyper religious sect and you leave and they're like, knock on your door, like, come back or we're going. Keep your kids. You can't talk to them. And it's like a cult.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Okay, that's fair. That's fair.

[Mark Gagnon]

And so like, with these girls, hypothetically, I don't know, a guy says, hey, let's go on a trip. Let's go, my boat. She's like, yeah, that sounds great. Awesome. And then he starts being a piece of to her. He's like, you can't leave. You can't talk to. Give me your phone. Let me see who you're talking.

[Akash Singh]

That's the bad part.

[Andrew Schulz]

But.

[Mark Gagnon]

And then she says, no. He goes, fine, the trip's off. We're not going anywhere.

[Akash Singh]

That's the bad part.

[Mark Gagnon]

But then she says, fine, you can take it. He goes, why we.

[Akash Singh]

Why are we vilifying the first part?

[Andrew Schulz]

Conditional. Because it had a condition built in. Why are we acting like they have a condition? Conditions. Our wives love us. We start fucking every bitch on the street. That love goes away. Is it conditional love.

[Mark Gagnon]

Exactly right.

[Akash Singh]

All love is conditional. Except for your parents, if they're good parents.

[Mark Gagnon]

But we agree this.

[Andrew Schulz]

I can't be critical of anything my wife does ever. I just gotta tell her how it makes me feel. That seems conditional. That seems very conditional. Why are we acting like there's not conditions for human relationships?

[Mark Gagnon]

No, there are conditions. There are conditions. But we agree as a society that some conditions might broach too far.

[Andrew Schulz]

How about this? This is in the Constitution. You go on a guy's boat, he's gonna use your throat. Just know that I have a daughter. I will be telling my daughter, that is a barn. You go on a guy, he's going to use your throat. And if he doesn't get to use your throat, you're not going on the boat again. Those are the rules for boats.

[Akash Singh]

That is poetry.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's the rules for planes. That's the rules for trips.

[Akash Singh]

Pledge of Allegiance.

[Andrew Schulz]

Put it in the Pledge of Allegiance.

[Akash Singh]

Yo, we gotta pledge allegiance to this boat.

[Andrew Schulz]

There was so many poetry majors in here. We gotta stop infantilizing women. Only Epstein can do that. There's a certain circumstance where it's like, ladies, you have to be aware of what a guy wants. And here's the reality. They are aware. Women are not stupid. Can I just say one thing? When a broke tries to love bomb, you know what they say? Ew. There's no circumstance where a broke guy's love bomb. And women are like, I just got a love bomb. I got manipulated. He's homeless. But I got manipulated. And I'm totally manipulated out of this pussy. Very few. We hear a lot of. We hear a lot of the circumstances, which you got. You're right. Right. I. I'm speaking in totalities. I think that's unfair. It happens far less often than It's a broke guy.

[Alex Media]

Love bombing is texting all the time. Oh, I miss you. Good morning. Da da da da oh, I love you.

[Andrew Schulz]

D d d d d d and.

[Alex Media]

Then after they're just done with their just ghost. That's. But I'm just saying that's. That's broke. Love bomb.

[Andrew Schulz]

I call that pussy smell. And listen, we gotta chalk up at least a. A small percentage to smell. Not every girl is hygienic. There's some percentage. Surely there's some percentage to smell.

[Alex Media]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's no ab. Me. No, you bomb Me. You. There's something going on under the hood.

[Akash Singh]

Bug bomb me.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's a small percentage who's a smell.

[Mark Gagnon]

I disagree. Small percentage.

[Andrew Schulz]

Small. We don't know what the percentage is? We don't know. We don't know 100%. It could be smell. It could be. It could be a lack of sexual chemistry, which is very important.

[Akash Singh]

That's very important.

[Mark Gagnon]

But even then, you shouldn't ghost, though. You should be like, yo, by the way.

[Andrew Schulz]

Facts. And then center of love bath bombs. Do you want to know what? Do you want to know what love bombing is? Love bombing is not telling a girl her smells.

[Akash Singh]

Oh, my.

[Andrew Schulz]

That is an act of love. That is an act of love. Put the hat back on. It's more funny when I. Yeah, I think in a lot of ways, that's an act of love. When a girl doesn't say that your dick is short. That's an act of love. Oh, it's not really. We don't have a real connection. Blah, blah, blah. It's hitting one side of the. I mean, you're hitting one wall. You're hitting one wall.

[Akash Singh]

That's love.

[Andrew Schulz]

Love.

[Akash Singh]

My wife loves me 10 years straight.

[Alex Media]

Oh, God.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay. I don't know where to go. Listen, obviously, I'm taking, like, a. A wild approach to this on the other side, but, like, I do be.

[Akash Singh]

Getting confused when people talk about love bombing. Can we talk about love bomb? And I get confused. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I get confused. I just don't exactly understand.

[Andrew Schulz]

Ted Cruz is love bombing Israel every single day.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, he is.

[Andrew Schulz]

Every day. He is love bombing.

[Akash Singh]

Actually, Israel is hate bombing Palestine for no reason.

[Andrew Schulz]

Well, they got a reason. I think they had a reason. The question is, how. How much longer is this gonna go on?

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, okay, fair enough.

[Andrew Schulz]

I just think it's easier to feel like you got tricked out of something. Like. Like, I don't think any girl wants to go. I don't think any girl wants to go, Man, I gave that guy some pussy because he took me on a boat. Like, I don't think at the end of the day, they want to feel like it's that transactional. So I think with the. A lot of girls, I think they'd rather go, he was so nice to me. He loved me. He was saying all these nice things. He text and whatever, and then he just stopped doing that. Once we have sex, it's just like. Yeah. I mean, if the first thing a guy does with you is. Takes you on a boat or something like that, you should be very aware of his intentions with you. Very aware. Like, I. I would tell that to women right now. If the first thing a guy offers to do with you is to take you the nicest restaurant. Restaurant out there. The nicest boat or vacation or whatever. There's one thing he wants. There is one thing that he wants.

[Alex Media]

I don't know, Sheltie.

[Andrew Schulz]

He is trying to. He's trying to put in a massive amount of guilt on you. Yeah. For him to have sex with you.

[Mark Gagnon]

Because the implication.

[Andrew Schulz]

Because the implication is.

[Mark Gagnon]

Have you seen that? Always on the episode.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, Tom, I do.

[Mark Gagnon]

If you go on a boat, the implication.

[Andrew Schulz]

There's an implication.

[Mark Gagnon]

There's an implication.

[Andrew Schulz]

We already know what the boat is about. You already know. I don't even have to repeat it. And you already know. It's emblazoned in your mind right now.

[Alex Media]

We could agree to disagree on this.

[Andrew Schulz]

Al.

[Alex Media]

I just. I think a lot of the time. Oh, my gosh.

[Andrew Schulz]

Maybe that.

[Alex Media]

But I also feel like, say, hey, if you have a lot of money and you own a boat.

[Akash Singh]

I'm not listening.

[Alex Media]

That's the cheapest date you can do.

[Mark Gagnon]

Boat is tricky. Boat is tricky.

[Andrew Schulz]

You own a boat already.

[Alex Media]

Then it's like, I don't need to spend no money to bring it to a restaurant.

[Andrew Schulz]

I could just. You know how expensive on my docked boat? You know how expensive?

[Mark Gagnon]

Are you saying you're rolling a docked boat? You're definitely trying to get ahead. That's where you're definitely going to wall.

[Alex Media]

That's the equivalent to a rich guy. Hey, let's go for it. A walking date.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who goes on walking date broke.

[Mark Gagnon]

You want to do it?

[Andrew Schulz]

You want to come in my Uber pool?

[Mark Gagnon]

We're going to go pick some people up.

[Akash Singh]

But that date doesn't come. A walking day doesn't come with the expectation that we're.

[Andrew Schulz]

You don't think they're trying to. No, not trying to, but not the expectation.

[Akash Singh]

Expectation. I'm going to try.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay.

[Akash Singh]

Now, if you got the hardest reservation in the city to get back in your single days many years, years ago, hardest reservation in the city, and you take a girl there, you. The expectation that you're getting sex is exponentially higher than walking date.

[Andrew Schulz]

You don't even know this girl yet. But what all you know about her is you're attracted to her. Of course, the only thing you want to do is fuck. Yeah.

[Alex Media]

But don't you also want to make a great impression the first time you take her?

[Akash Singh]

The hardest reservation in the city. You get one of these in your life.

[Andrew Schulz]

For the three girls listening right now, the shittier place a guy takes you on the first date, the more he actually likes you.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, that's proportional.

[Mark Gagnon]

That's proportional.

[Andrew Schulz]

I took my wife to a diner on our first date. We are married. We have a child.

[Akash Singh]

Which diner, though? This is important.

[Andrew Schulz]

The Selka.

[Akash Singh]

That's. See, that's different. That's sentimental.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's sentimental. But at the same time, it's like, I'm not trying to, like, woo you and push all this guilt on you. Look at this amazing night I gave you. And then if you could talk to girls. There are girls who, like, begrudgingly will do sexual acts with a dude because they feel bad that the guy has given them so much for that night. And that's exactly what that that guy's trying to do. He's trying to put you in a position where you feel bad enough to make him orgasm.

[Alex Media]

We're not gonna act like 10 years ago that was his version of a high end date.

[Andrew Schulz]

Come on, bro.

[Mark Gagnon]

Those pierogies have gotten expensive.

[Andrew Schulz]

We not call a cat right now an iconic spot.

[Alex Media]

He's like, yo, this place means so much to me.

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, you was trying. Nah, I didn't take her to Chipotle, bro. Like, you know what I mean?

[Akash Singh]

But that's not the cheaper. But that's like a mid tier sentimental, not super nice, but this place means something. That's a sweet first date. I'm taking you to. I don't know what's. Theresi's the hardest place to get into or whatever. This is our first date. There is an expectation.

[Andrew Schulz]

Not the hardest. Let's go. It's kind of hard. Producer tags, y' all letting anybody in? If I walk into Theresia, Miles is sitting next to me with a girl that's a four that he thinks is a nine.

[Alex Media]

Oh, I'm walking out.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm walking out of.

[Akash Singh]

There's an expectation.

[Andrew Schulz]

Don't you forget it.

[Akash Singh]

There's an expectation that comes with that. And acting like that isn't a reality is crazy because women feel the pressure too. They feel the expectation.

[Mark Gagnon]

But who do you fix? Do you fix the guys to say, like, yo, you shouldn't. You shouldn't be expecting. Expecting?

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no. You're not gonna fix that. Can I be honest?

[Akash Singh]

I agree.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're not gonna fix a lot of money.

[Akash Singh]

He using up all his. He was in every avenue. He got for you.

[Andrew Schulz]

Don't go.

[Akash Singh]

If you don't expect to have sex.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can I just say one thing? Can it be on both of them? Shouldn't the guy be up front and just be like, can I, yo, you.

[Alex Media]

Know, this another thing. Can I say one Thing like, we just try them.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can I just say one thing? The responsibility for defense is on the team that has. Has the goal. God damn poetry.

[Mark Gagnon]

This is.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is on fire. That's a good metaphor.

[Mark Gagnon]

Let him cook.

[Andrew Schulz]

Let them cook. They're. No, you lost it.

[Akash Singh]

You lost it. You're cooking it back.

[Andrew Schulz]

The responsibility for defense is on the team that has a goal. Women have a goal. We can't get inside without their permission. You cannot. That is illegal. You go to jail. Or at least it's completely, completely covered up by the government.

[Mark Gagnon]

And it never happens.

[Andrew Schulz]

And that never happened at all. Right. But. So the responsibility for defense is on a team with a goal. They have the goal. They have to know the defense. They have to know the different tricks of the game that guys are going to try to do to get in there, because guys are not going to change about that. But they can be defensive, and we know they can be defensive because they post videos of them walking down the street ignoring all the guys being a girl in New York walking down the street one day and all the guys saying hi, hello, or whatever. They're used to playing defense. They play defense all day. Their. Their existence around men is 99% defense. So let's not act like they don't play.

[Alex Media]

What if the guy lies to them? What if the guy lies and says, hey, I love you, I want to be with you?

[Andrew Schulz]

Then they're crazy. They said that one day in. They're crazy. That's a crazy person. Every. If you believe that you're arrogant.

[Alex Media]

They read smut novels where they fall.

[Andrew Schulz]

In love on the first day. Or you think they. So your argument is that they're stupid? No, I read smut novels, too. So you're both stupid. Okay. No, no. Yeah. I think that we got to stop infantilizing women. We got to prepare them for the real world. Like, if a guy's throwing crazy shit at you, just know the expectation. If a guy's treating you like he treats the bottle girls, you're a bottle girl. Like, think about that. If a guy is treating you the same way, he treats the livestock, the cattle that gets moved from table to table at the club or gets ordered to go on the boat or gets flown to the different countries for the parties. There are women that are livestock. That's their job, is good livestock. I respect the livestock, but that is their job. Right. Like, if he treats you in the same way, he's asking you to do the same things that he does. The livestock, you're also livestock.

[Alex Media]

Yes.

[Andrew Schulz]

To him that's not who you are as a person, but to him, you're livestock, so you have to act accordingly.

[Alex Media]

It can't be all on the women, though. The guy should be honest. Like, we can't just be like, oh, the guy's off the hook. You should have known. Like, nah, come on. A little bit is on the guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

We should be allowed to lie. I think we should be allowed to lie because they lie. They lie. You're not that tall. Your eyelashes aren't that long. Your nails aren't that tall either. And his nails don't look like that. We should be allowed to lie. We should. We should be allowed to lie. We should be allowed to lie. We shouldn't, but we should be allowed. And they should be prepared. Let's see.

[Akash Singh]

It's responsibility on both. How much on the man?

[Andrew Schulz]

I can maybe meet you here. 50.

[Akash Singh]

Out of here. Out of.

[Andrew Schulz]

Here's the thing. Here's the thing. If we're honest. If we're honest. Yo, that looks. I'll do it, too. I'll do. Come on. Can we both hug? Let's hug during this. Come on, you guys hug, too. You guys, if we're honest. If we're honest, the human race is extinct. Put the hat on. If. If. If you. You. You tell the men not to lie. You're telling men not to lie. But if we're honest, the human race is extinct. All right, guys, let's take a break for a second. Listen, before we tell you about plunges, I just want to let you know that we have them, okay? We got to use them out in the Hamptons. The boys jumped in. That cold plunge is just impervious to.

[Mark Gagnon]

I mean, it's. It's remarkable. He's. He's like a seal.

[Andrew Schulz]

He is. Yeah. Yeah. He is truly.

[Mark Gagnon]

Like, there's. And this is not a fat joke. It's not.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, it is. Yeah. I feel like. I feel like. I think that's what it is.

[Mark Gagnon]

It's not. He just is able to endure extreme cold because of blood.

[Andrew Schulz]

No. Like, I feel like if. I feel like if. If Eskimo saw dove, they would be cutting his stomach material with that little. Have you seen that little tusk bone knife that they used? They would club him in the head and. Yeah. And then eat him as a delicacy. Like, it's amazing. It just doesn't feel cold at all. And he pulled you in. You definitely were feeling the cold.

[Mark Gagnon]

Oh, yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. But the sauna is fantastic. The sauna is fantastic.

[Akash Singh]

Sauna is the move it is the move.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm more of a hot guy. The hot is more enjoyable to me also. Like, you can set up your phone so you can heat it up before you get.

[Akash Singh]

Oh, that's beautiful.

[Andrew Schulz]

You just have to have it on all day. You get, you know, heat it up. Okay, Boom. Run over there.

[Akash Singh]

They say saunas literally extend your life, lower your blood pressure. It's like crazy how many studies there are, really. And how good the benefits are, especially for men.

[Mark Gagnon]

Dinner, hanging with your girl in the wintertime. Bang. Start the sauna up, pop in when you go home.

[Andrew Schulz]

Done. Ideal. Amazing. Love it. Love Plunge. For real. Absolutely awesome. Amazing. And like, just like looks really cool too. I mean, if you're going to put something on your property, you want it to look nice. So I'm sure they have some shots that we'll be putting into this. And anyway, first, the Plunge all in. Cold plunge is a top of line cold plunge. It cools water down to low as 37 degrees. It also has a micro filtration system to ensure that the water you're sitting in stays clean. And I know it can feel like the setup would be daunting. It's not. Okay, just plug and plunge. And of course we have the Plunge sauna. It can get as hot as 230 degrees, which is crazy. Yeah, that's very hot. Yeah. And they have models that fit up to seven people. They all also have models with flip up seats so you can stretch or you can work out in the sauna if you're truly insane. Of course, since it's flagrant, you know that we hooked you guys up with a discount. So if you go to plunge.com you can get $300 off your purchase today. And they're having an Independence Day sale they have extended for another week. You can get $1,000 off a cold plunge and sauna and additional 500 off if you sign up for SMS. And these coupons are stackable, guys, that's like $1,800 off. Just go to plunge.com, get your incredible cold plunge sauna or both today and use code flagrant for $300 off your [e-mail] and go there immediately if you want another $1,500 off. Now let's get back to the show. All right, guys, let's take a break for a second. David's protein bar. You already know what these are. If you don't know what these are, I don't know what to tell you. You don't care about getting as much protein as Possible with as few as calories as possible. There's 28 grams of protein in this thing. It's absolutely delicious. They have a bunch of different delicious flavors. But what is most important with the protein bar? High protein, low calorie. It's the best. It has the best. If you're worried about the macros, it has the best. Adequate protein intake is critical for building and preserving muscle mass now and as we age. It also plays a vital role in managing metabolic health and preventing excess body fat accumulation, reducing risk of various diseases. David has the most protein per calorie, so eating 100 calories of David will make you feel fuller than eating 100 calories at any other bar. Just think about that. It's the reason why it's exploding. It's the reason why you go into any store and there's only one left in the box, maybe zero, because it's the best bar on the planet. Dave is also now available in stores in nyc. So if you're ny, stop by your local bodega and get your protein fix. I'm telling you right now, David comes with six delicious flavors and they're all worth trying. Also, if you buy four cartons, you're going to get a fifth for free. If you're curious, try it for [e-mail] flagrant. Now let's get back to the show. Lion is what is the currency that keeps humanity alive?

[Mark Gagnon]

So what's a lie that we're cool with for men?

[Andrew Schulz]

A lie that we're cool with for men?

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah, yeah. Because there's some. They're too far, but maybe there's too many.

[Andrew Schulz]

Here's a lie that we're cool with for men. Right? You're a Capricorn. What does that mean? That's a lie. That is. That is cool for a guy to tell. That's a lie.

[Alex Media]

Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can a guy not say that? That's a lie.

[Mark Gagnon]

That's interesting. Okay.

[Andrew Schulz]

And. Yeah, go on.

[Mark Gagnon]

I loved the Barbie movie.

[Andrew Schulz]

Lie. Right?

[Mark Gagnon]

You could be like, all right, yeah, yeah. I resonate with a lot. Okay, I see kind of what he's saying here.

[Akash Singh]

I'd rather tell a girl I loved her when I didn't than pretend I love that fucking movie.

[Mark Gagnon]

And those are the ones that might.

[Andrew Schulz]

Cross the.

[Mark Gagnon]

Spirit, dude.

[Andrew Schulz]

So, yeah, I think. I think that we should be allowed to lie and they should be equipped to deal with the lies. It's, you know, it is what it is. It's this.

[Mark Gagnon]

But then they also should lie. So the women should also lie.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. But they. They do. Nobody said that. They all do.

[Akash Singh]

That is what he said.

[Andrew Schulz]

We allow them to call their eyelids.

[Akash Singh]

Don'T look a lot.

[Andrew Schulz]

We assume the lies. The lies.

[Akash Singh]

They call it art. Makeup is an art form. You're a makeup artist.

[Mark Gagnon]

That is true. That is true.

[Akash Singh]

So their lies are art. Why are our lies so terrible? Your lies make you feel better about yourself. You don't think my line makes me feel better about myself? You don't think Al pretending he's five eight makes him feel better about himself?

[Alex Media]

Pretend I'm six' two.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay, No. I have a daughter. So, like I'm actually invested in this conversation.

[Akash Singh]

Are you gonna give her that boat quote?

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, 100%.

[Alex Media]

Oh yeah. You know, that's the first thing I'm telling if I have a daughter.

[Andrew Schulz]

Hey, let me tell you something about my daughter. You better be good at lying. You better be good at lying, cuz I'm going to make sure she knows every single trick in the game. I'm not going to make a who guys love bomb. No, no, no, no, no, no. They're all liars.

[Alex Media]

If a guy has a top hat, long hair, and comes to you with.

[Andrew Schulz]

Some cards, run, run. Pick a number between 1 and 10.

[Mark Gagnon]

For real top hat for a reason, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know what I'm saying? That's my daughter, bro. I know that's my daughter, bro. No. With all due respect, watch out. With all due respect, your son's gonna be gay. Watch out. Your son gonna be on the top hat too. Watch my father like son. Wait, that's the word you're saying? I know. He's turning red bad.

[Mark Gagnon]

I never say that.

[Andrew Schulz]

He just got red when you called his sungate.

[Alex Media]

He like, no.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, Epstein. Oh, Epstein.

[Mark Gagnon]

We wish him well, dude.

[Andrew Schulz]

So we wish him well. Well. Oh, didn't Trump do that at one point? No.

[Mark Gagnon]

He went to Ghislaine.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, he got his wish, yo.

[Akash Singh]

Free Ghislaine, yo.

[Mark Gagnon]

And don't Jews not have hell?

[Andrew Schulz]

Say again?

[Mark Gagnon]

Don't Jews not have hell? Isn't that a thing in Judaism?

[Andrew Schulz]

What's the B and H? What's that? What's that then? What do you mean? What's getting an extra battery for your camera on a Thursday?

[Mark Gagnon]

Are they all ghosts? Is that what those guys are?

[Andrew Schulz]

You tell me what that place is Thursday afternoon.

[Mark Gagnon]

They're dressed like they're from the 1800s. Or they might be ghosts. They might be full on.

[Alex Media]

Those are the coolest Jews, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, they are fine. They're so.

[Alex Media]

Dope they're fire know me by name.

[Andrew Schulz]

Now every time I walk a dude.

[Mark Gagnon]

That'S dressed like 1860, this guy pays. Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

A guy dress leaves from the 1600s that knows everything about technology.

[Mark Gagnon]

Amazing. It's awesome. Like a future driver.

[Andrew Schulz]

If you're not from New York City. B H is the largest camera store. Only place where you can really get camera audio equipment. Well, there's also Adorama, which is also owned by them. Yeah. But like, they. They have just like created the best place. Every other place that you go. Like we had fucking nobody beats the Wiz and some guy that we went to high school with that knows nothing about cameras, audio equipment. It is the only place where you can go to and trust the people's opinion on. On the goods. Yeah. Like everybody there is educated about what they're telling what they're selling.

[Alex Media]

They pretty much made like best buy in all those places. Stop selling.

[Andrew Schulz]

See you later.

[Alex Media]

Because like, there's no point.

[Andrew Schulz]

You couldn't even trust it. Like.

[Akash Singh]

And the prices are as good as anything online.

[Alex Media]

Price is great. You can always. If you have a big order, you can ask them for a discount.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Alex Media]

And they just give you a discount.

[Andrew Schulz]

So that's the thing. Like the Jews, bro. Let me tell you something. This is why anti Semitism in New York City, like, keep it away from B and H. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, very specific. Very specific. Do that somewhere else. All right. We cannot risk losing B and H. No. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

The intifada has to stay away.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. We cannot globalize intifada because we need B and H. We need Adorama.

[Akash Singh]

That's why Zoran can't win.

[Andrew Schulz]

Dude, you can't let. If Zoron wins and shuts down B.

[Mark Gagnon]

And H and there's a government funded camera store.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what he's doing.

[Mark Gagnon]

Has a minute that reverses have that.

[Andrew Schulz]

You see what it does N. If.

[Alex Media]

He shuts down B and H, we ride that 100%.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, I'll. I'll ride. I'll ride for B and H. You know the guy who owns that apparently takes a salary of $100,000 a year and just donates the rest of charity. Wow.

[Alex Media]

Which charity?

[Andrew Schulz]

Interesting point. Interesting. Expanding into Judea. Samantha. No, but that is kind of fire, right? Like could make tons of money. Money again.

[Akash Singh]

We gotta look into this. Follow the money and free candy.

[Andrew Schulz]

If it's going to delicious candies.

[Mark Gagnon]

They got good candies. You get to the end of the checkout.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, now that the blackmail chain is Done with the teenagers. They have nothing to do with the candy to the customers. He's like, what are we gonna do with camera equipment anymore? Why do you think that they have the best camera equipment? It's no longer in Epstein's basement.

[Mark Gagnon]

Just baby hole at the checkout now.

[Andrew Schulz]

All right, so what are we thinking about? This is it, Is it disappointing day? Dude, it is disappointing. Do we ever find out, is there ever any closure on this? Is there ever?

[Akash Singh]

No, it's close.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. So that's it. It's Kennedy, jfk. This is jfk. Yeah. And then I was watching a saggers conversation on Tucker. They have a great conversation about this. Sagar is like really locked in on this. I didn't realize that how much he knew about like the whole Epstein saga. Like he was amazingly informed. But he said something and I just wasn't alive so I wasn't aware of it. But like the JFK assassination and all like the bullshit around it and the COVID ups, etc. He said really like broke the American people's trust in their government. And I think that that was coincided with Vietnam and like these other wars that just were not entirely popular. And mlk and obviously MLK and then jfk, you know, well, obviously jfk, but RFK and then. But we're already at an all time low in our generation. Trust in the institutions. Yeah. This like, does it shatter it more than it's already shattered? Like where do we go from here? Like, how do we trust Trump? How do we trust any?

[Akash Singh]

We tried trusting the anti government guy and he ended up being the government. Yeah, like who do you trust now?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, for real?

[Mark Gagnon]

Like, I wonder what would have happened if Trump like just was like, this is everybody, everything that's going on and just exposed everything. Like I like part of me is trying to like game theory where I'm like, wouldn't that benefit?

[Akash Singh]

I think end game.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

Like if he comes out and he's like, yo, this is how like the wars are working. Here's how the foreign influence works. Here's how the blackmail thing, assuming all of that is true and he just exposes everything, it causes civil war, you know what I mean? Like he puts his life on the line and then he gets a third term.

[Andrew Schulz]

Right.

[Mark Gagnon]

Like it's possible that like these things could happen. And I'm like, if he wanted power, is it possible that he could just like completely buck the system, gain the support of the majority of Americans and then just keep the shit pushing and.

[Andrew Schulz]

It is possible to recover?

[Alex Media]

Wouldn't have missed.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no. 100%. But, like, it is possible to recover from incredibly, like, heinous, disgusting acts. Germany is still a country. Accountability is necessary. You've got to put these people on trial. They're responsible for these unbelievably horrific acts. So it would require that. It would require outing all the people that were aiding, abetting and protecting, even if it's hundreds, even if it's thousands of people, government. But it would take that for America to have the faith and confidence in our system. And these, these bad actors are not an indictment on the idea of America, they're an abuse of America. Right. Just like we were saying about, like, the churches. Right. Like the Christian church that when someone leaves, doesn't treat them with the same love and kindness is not living up to the ideals of Jesus. Right. That's more of the cult, as you were saying. And it's like, you can extract these people, you can punish them and you can move on. We've seen it happen in other countries, but it takes an unbelievably brave soul to out that and probably will take their life. Like, that is probably the cost unless you win.

[Mark Gagnon]

Which is why I'm like, I don't know if Trump is a pure dictator in the historical sense, because if he was, it seems like the environment now is sort of ripe for a dictator cater to come through and could actually work. You know what I mean?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

And the fact that he's kind of like working within sort of like the lines a little bit, you know, I mean, obviously he steps out of the Overton window, but, like, there's still a little bit of, you know, like, guidelines he's working with and like, with the big beautiful bill leads me to believe, like, oh, this is just more institutional kind of political bureaucracy.

[Andrew Schulz]

Do you think they sat him down? They were like, listen, we're just going to kill everybody in your family. The way you bring this up is so calloused and terrifying. Like, I wonder if that's possible. I think that. I wonder if this conversation where it's just like, hey, listen, your family is currently on a trip to Aspen and here's the flight and there's five hours where it's going to be in the air and it might fall out of the air. So we're going to have you do these certain things or else your family will really never be able to fly again because we'll just shoot the plane out of the sky. And then just said it's another Boeing issue. Like, I wonder if it's that simple.

[Alex Media]

But then who would be the person having that combo with him?

[Andrew Schulz]

That's what we don't know. And I think that's what's so frustrating is, like, who is the permanent government? Who is the quote, unquote, deep state? Who are the people pulling levers? It's not John Ratcliffe or whoever the new leader of the CIA is. There was a leader of the CIA before him. Who are the people who don't get elected but always exist in the CIA? If the CIA is the one that's pulling the strings and in control, who's like, the head of the Pentagon, they have this black budget. They could spend as much money doing whatever they fuck they want. Like, who controls that? You know, who controls that spending? Like, I think that's another really frustrating thing for Americans. It's like, who is in control then? Like, it seems like Trump can do certain things he wants to do and they don't meddle with it, but the second he gets into that space, it gets shut down. And I imagine that's the same thing for, like, didn't Kennedy say there's a quote here? Oh, yeah, it's like, didn't Kennedy say that thing where maybe it wasn't Kennedy, but didn't Kennedy come after the CIA? Didn't he want to dismantle the CIA and they dismantled his head?

[Alex Media]

Yeah, it seems about right.

[Andrew Schulz]

You know, I think that, like, we might be in conspiratorial land right now, but, like, you know, didn't. Was Lincoln saying a certain thing like, who are these power brokers? Who are the people that are pulling these strings and are willing to do the most, you know, sadistic things in to order to maintain that power. I don't think it's American presidents, because if there's been a few of them brave enough to try to dismantle it, and all of them end up dead. So I don't think it's our politicians that we democratically elect. So who are the people that are not elected and who are the people that are permanently in government? And it's crazy that there isn't even conspiracy about who they are. It's so entrenched and so disguised. Who do you point to?

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah, I don't know if it's like, specific individual, like, people that are just like, oh, you're like the secret dictator. I wonder if it's just like a network of people with influence. Like, yeah, like, if you're like the chairman of, like, the Fed. If you're like the, you know, the chairman of like the, you know, wef or like, like, like the, like I wonder if it's decentralized and, but people, people kind of talk like, I don't know if it's like one centralized, like Illuminati type force that exists within the government or if it's like different factions of power that are all kind of moving against each other at times and they're playing like an underground chess game.

[Alex Media]

I don't know the way how Bernie didn't want to speak about the death threats that was, that was telling yo.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, like Bernie, Bernie.

[Alex Media]

And he speaks about everything.

[Andrew Schulz]

Bernie talks about everything. And the second we asked him like, have you had your life risked or whatever like that, he's like, I don't rather not talk about that. They tried to kill that. Or they didn't try or they had the combo with him. They had the combo maybe.

[Mark Gagnon]

Or it's like a psycho stalker and he's like, I don't want to give these people credit.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, say again?

[Alex Media]

That's boring. Put your hat back.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, I, I, I, I appreciate, I appreciate, Mark, you making sure that we don't go off the rails here.

[Mark Gagnon]

I've seen off the rails now.

[Andrew Schulz]

Now that. When do we go off the.

[Mark Gagnon]

Today in my life.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know what off the rails. Conspiracy vibes. So can you give us some of those? We're on the rails. We acknowledge that the rails exist and we're on them now. Can you tell me how far it goes? Yeah, come on. Can we call.

[Mark Gagnon]

All right.

[Andrew Schulz]

With.

[Mark Gagnon]

In what? In what?

[Andrew Schulz]

Everything. Everything, Mark. Everything. And if you feel uncomfortable, anything, we'll just cut it out. But everything, okay?

[Mark Gagnon]

You have elite bloodlines in every nation in the world that have been empowered since, you know, 500. Okay? And they control actually everything. All the richest people in the world are actually royal families within these countries. And some names that we know, you know what I mean? Like the name changes of like the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, they control global finance. They move the levers, they play both sides of the war so that they always win. And they are the ones that are actually in control, trying to create a global world order where ultimately they will have control over all of humanity.

[Andrew Schulz]

So it really doesn't matter what country they are reside in, because America is.

[Mark Gagnon]

Just the current hegemony. Used to be Britain, it used to be France, it used to be any nation, and eventually it'll be China. But we're already over there. And by we, I mean those people.

[Andrew Schulz]

And they will entrench themselves in those places. So that they can maintain their positions of power.

[Mark Gagnon]

Because what's better than controlling one country.

[Andrew Schulz]

When you control the world, the octopus's.

[Mark Gagnon]

Tentacles go all over.

[Andrew Schulz]

Can you keep going on this? Because this is really fun. How do they, how do they utilize these systems? How do they blackmail people? How do they.

[Mark Gagnon]

Well, you to have, have to create a central bank.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why is that so important?

[Mark Gagnon]

That way you can control all the money.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, all the money.

[Andrew Schulz]

And why is the control of the money so crucial?

[Mark Gagnon]

Because you can put people in debt, you can destroy them. You know what I mean? And you can. And you can basically pull the levers to decide who gets power and who doesn't. Because we live in a capitalist system and every nation basically operates under these rules. Even if they are, you know, dictatorships, they still operate with this sort of trade agreement.

[Andrew Schulz]

So who controls the central bank in the United States of America? Uh oh, this is why they always go there. All right, but who does? Because my understanding is that the institutional banks in America are all run by like Irish guys, right? The hedge funds and stuff are Jews. But this, I think. No, no, no. Like if you. No, no, but if you look up, like it's kind of a. What is it, what is the term? Like a misnomer or something like that? Like it's a. It's a false conspiracy that like Jews run the banks because the actual real institutional banks are run by Irish guys. And then like the hedge funds and stuff can be run by Jews, but that's not like where the real power is. The power is within the institutional banks. Bank is different from the institutional banks because the institutional banks are getting their money from the central bank.

[Mark Gagnon]

Right?

[Andrew Schulz]

So who does control the central bank?

[Mark Gagnon]

The deep state.

[Andrew Schulz]

But like, is there a. Is there a group? Is there a family? I know Jerome Powell is like the chairman of the Fed right now, but he gets put. He's a new guy that's thrown in there. You know, there was someone before him.

[Mark Gagnon]

I'm trying to remember this book, the. What was it, the Monster of Jekyll island, that like in 1914, they all go together and they're like, we're going to make this central bank and every country is going to have one if they don't have when we topple their regime. And so everyone needs to have a central bank and then it's all controlled by a family.

[Andrew Schulz]

Which family? You've heard the Rothschild, where it all falls apart. I don't know, but like we've. I've heard the Rothschild and like, I'm trying to like, make both arguments. I'm sure there is huge advantages for having a central bank. That is, you have Covid come around, we could print a few trillion dollars and people can continue to eat when they're not going out there and working. So they're definitely like, the central bank can't be so oppressive that the people revolt. It has to maintain enough of a status quo where the people are distracted enough that they'll allow the power to reside in, like, this, you know, small group of people. Right, but, like, what is that group of people who are. Is there somebody's name on the central bank of America? Is there one family? Is it, like. If that's what I'm trying to say. I don't know.

[Mark Gagnon]

I mean, again, I'm kind of riffing on, like, old school conspiracy that I read when I was in high school on YouTube.

[Andrew Schulz]

This is Feelings. This is feelings. No facts. This is feelings. No facts.

[Mark Gagnon]

I actually don't know what the fuck family that controls the central bank. I mean, I don't. I mean, can we give it a Google, I'm sure chat, or is that.

[Alex Media]

What you have to tell us?

[Mark Gagnon]

My handler said I have to step down.

[Andrew Schulz]

Holy. Has mark been put here?

[Alex Media]

Come on, man.

[Mark Gagnon]

Dude, imagine I was talking to Bunte. I was like, I want to be a CIA asset. And he was like, n. I don't think you have it.

[Andrew Schulz]

No.

[Mark Gagnon]

I was like, come on, dude, I could be a good. I could do something. I could do something.

[Akash Singh]

Jealous of your hair? Probably this guy?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

He was like, ah, you're like a nice guy.

[Andrew Schulz]

I told you. Mossad tried to poach my boy. No, I can't say his name because you guys, some of you know him. But yeah, some guy just, like, approached him and, like, they were friends and, like, said he was going to hire him for this job and then brought him into a room and he's like, all right, that's not actually the job. You know, we would like you to work for us. And basically all you have to do is, you know, talk to people, be friends with people, and then one day we're going to ask you where those people are. And then they might end up not surviving the boat ride. They go on. Oh, shit. And then if he goes, can I think about it? He goes, no, you have to tell me right now. And he goes, I'm sorry, this is just too much. I just need to think about it. They walk out of the room together and he goes, my friend goes, hey, I appreciate you. I appreciate the offer. It's just you know, like a lot right now. And the guy looks him straight in the face and goes, what are you talking about? Wow, that's fire. After this, I'll tell you.

[Akash Singh]

I just bring them on.

[Andrew Schulz]

Dove Duff got too much empathy. He's too nice for that. So does my friend. I think that's why. Why he ultimately was like. I also think that. I don't think he was aligned with. I don't think he. He feels like Israeli. Like, he's Jewish, but I don't think he's like. I think he feels more American. Yeah. And. But like, isn't that. Isn't that wild? Crazy? I'm sure that happens with CIA all the time. Someone probably scooped Boo Saman in the same way.

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah. I talked to a dude that wish.

[Alex Media]

They would come to me.

[Mark Gagnon]

Oh, that'd be the dream.

[Andrew Schulz]

You'd be the worst spy. You'd be the worst. Got like a no matter where, and you got everybody.

[Akash Singh]

And he's posting on Instagram. Everywhere he goes.

[Andrew Schulz]

That's how you get him. We talked about this outside of the pod. What would be the thing that if you're a spy and you were being tortured, would make you speak most quickly? Not eating. Not eating. That's what I'm saying.

[Mark Gagnon]

It's literally just a family not eating.

[Andrew Schulz]

No, no, no, no. I'm asking a full family, just not eating for six hours. If I didn't have a meal in six hours, you could. The nuclear codes are.

[Akash Singh]

If someone had a bunch of Second the handcuffs.

[Andrew Schulz]

Come on.

[Akash Singh]

Whatever you want.

[Andrew Schulz]

A bunch of loose hair around me, I'd be like, whatever you need.

[Alex Media]

I got the codes.

[Andrew Schulz]

If I had. If they put me in wet, cold socks, I'd go, yep, I'll tell you, like, whatever you need. Cold socks. What would be your.

[Akash Singh]

Yo. Wet socks. That's a rough one, dude. That's a rough one.

[Andrew Schulz]

What would Als be? Oh, they take his nails off.

[Alex Media]

I never fold.

[Andrew Schulz]

They'll be like. If they were like, you'll have to have sex with black women for the rest of your life. I'll be like, trump will be speaking in Ohio at 8:30. Yours? I don't know.

[Mark Gagnon]

I read about some of these torture things. I'm like, yeah, probably.

[Andrew Schulz]

Any of that.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, any of it.

[Mark Gagnon]

Right?

[Akash Singh]

Any of it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm saying, like, what would be, like, the starter? Like, that would probably break you pretty quickly. Like, the easy, simple stuff. What is something that ruins Mark?

[Mark Gagnon]

I mean, cold plunge.

[Akash Singh]

If I put in my. My Bluetooth and it don't. It don't connect automatically. Whatever you want, you know?

[Andrew Schulz]

Whatever you want, you want.

[Akash Singh]

You got it.

[Mark Gagnon]

Oh, if someone cuts me in line when I'm getting off the airplane.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, yeah. You've been getting cut in line for as long as we've known.

[Alex Media]

All the time.

[Mark Gagnon]

I stopped it. I. I took a stand recently.

[Andrew Schulz]

Oh, I got it.

[Mark Gagnon]

I don't believe there was a short.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're not allowed to research anything anymore. Oh. You're not allowed to get down to the facts.

[Mark Gagnon]

I don't need it.

[Andrew Schulz]

I don't need it.

[Akash Singh]

One day.

[Andrew Schulz]

You never stop researching. You just read people. You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

I don't know. I've always heard that if you get kidnapped or like someone's torturing, you got to tell them personal information.

[Akash Singh]

If I had to stand for more than 15 minutes straight.

[Alex Media]

Oh, that might.

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah, yeah.

[Akash Singh]

Like. Like put me on a subway car and I gotta go to 125th and there's no seats local. I'm silver.

[Alex Media]

Yeah. If I gotta walk more than six blocks, I'm done.

[Andrew Schulz]

Big Akash. Wear a backpack on a hot day.

[Akash Singh]

Oh, it's a wrap, dude.

[Mark Gagnon]

Oh, yeah.

[Akash Singh]

Did you hate put a laptop in a backpack? I'll give you whatever you want, dude.

[Mark Gagnon]

You can't lug around a laptop.

[Akash Singh]

Not lugging around around a. You guys had these big ass laptops. I was like, what are you lugging that around for, dude? Get a mini A. Gosh.

[Mark Gagnon]

Couldn't fathom someone would have a laptop in their backpack.

[Akash Singh]

Get a MacBook Air.

[Mark Gagnon]

Dude.

[Akash Singh]

Why you carry that two pounds in your back for no reason?

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, we took cars away from Schultz for 12 minutes and it was bad. So. Yeah, I didn't like that. Took what carbs, Put you back on a carb diet? Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

Your whole body revolted.

[Alex Media]

That is crazy.

[Andrew Schulz]

What's that?

[Alex Media]

Tough it out, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's not tough it out. I had a bacteria. Oh. I had to get on antibiotics. Al gave you IV fluids. Yo. Can I just tell everybody this? And I'm going to sound so old, but I just want y' all to know, in case you didn't know, you don't got to go to the doctor anymore. Did you know that? Wait, they have a. Am I still. They have virtual doctor visits now. So if you. If you know, you're up and sick and there's really nothing they could do. You knew this?

[Alex Media]

Yes.

[Akash Singh]

Telehealth.

[Andrew Schulz]

You are that out of touch.

[Mark Gagnon]

I haven't got a doctor in 10 years.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know. I don't know how to do most technological things. I don't have a computer, bro. You know me. I don't have a computer. That's why they haven't compromised me yet, son. I was watching the saga. Let me just tell you something. I'm watching this saga episode with Tucker, and Tucker goes. He goes, yeah, yeah, if you talk any, they just put kitty porn in your computer. That's why I don't have a computer. And I was like, that's why I don't have a computer. I luckily just don't have a computer. So they can't put no porn on my.

[Mark Gagnon]

You have no hard drives?

[Andrew Schulz]

No hard drives.

[Akash Singh]

I've never had a. I don't have a laptop. Yo, can you break into my house on a desktop? No, thank you.

[Mark Gagnon]

That's. Put files under your bed, a manila.

[Andrew Schulz]

Folder like, what the. What is this? So. So yeah, you could do a virtual doctor visit. You just meet a doctor. You don't have to leave your house, and then your doctor just tells you the. Any. Ah, yeah, your stomach hurts. Okay, this is that one.

[Akash Singh]

You're literally telling us something we all know.

[Andrew Schulz]

I'm telling the people at home, they privilege at least. Hey, y' all know that. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

Have you heard of, like, teletherapy?

[Andrew Schulz]

Like, yeah, we do it all the time. I do it every week for no reason. At a certain point in time, like, you know, it's like, you just got to move on, right? Yeah, yeah.

[Akash Singh]

That's what the doctor says about you in their therapy sessions.

[Alex Media]

How long before AI gets rid of doctors? You don't need doctors, son.

[Andrew Schulz]

What?

[Alex Media]

You just put your labs, but tell the how you feeling, and it's like, it does the job.

[Andrew Schulz]

Okay, I started my diet. Yeah. Okay. I started having diarrhea. I just cut out all carbs pretty much, and all just sugars and all that kind of shit. I type in. I started having diarrhea. I type into the chat with you. I go, yeah, I just started diet. I'm just doing all these carbs. I'm having a lot of diarrhea. And they're like, oh, these are common cases for someone who has diet, just starts a new diet. They call it the keto flu or whatever the it is, right? I go, okay, I got that. Six days later, I still got it. I call a virtual doctor, which is a cool piece of technology. I don't know if you guys are aware. And I have a conversation with him, okay, I showed up late to my virtual doctor. That's fire. There's no excuse for that. And then he goes, oh, yeah, you just probably got A bacteria. I'm going to put you on some, you know, know, antibiotics. Nothing replaces virtual doctor.

[Alex Media]

We'll get to the day. The point where, like, you can have one of those things that you had the reader and like that. It'll take a little jab of your blood so it can read your labs. You could send.

[Akash Singh]

There's a company doing that, actually. It's.

[Alex Media]

It would have known immediately what was.

[Akash Singh]

Theos. Have you heard of them? They're doing that right now.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah. Theranos, Elizabeth.

[Alex Media]

She was ahead of her time.

[Akash Singh]

The doctors say that about a white woman?

[Andrew Schulz]

The doctor said this during the visit. It kind of cracked me up. It's right. I'm like, yo, my stomach hurts. And he's just going to give me the antibiotics. But he got to make it feel like a doctor's appointment, right? So he goes at one point, he goes, can you just open your mouth and stick out your tongue? I'm like, ain't no way you can see anything, bro. Come on. Ah, like this. We got Hampton's WI Fi. There's nothing. It's all blurry. I go like this.

[Akash Singh]

Ah.

[Andrew Schulz]

He goes, yeah, you're good.

[Mark Gagnon]

He's just with you.

[Andrew Schulz]

He is just with you. Yeah.

[Mark Gagnon]

Would you mind sitting on a bed? Actually, you're supposed to be checking your.

[Alex Media]

Fucking toddles and shit. You can't see that shit.

[Andrew Schulz]

Get out of here with all that antibiotics. I'm telling you, they should put that in the water.

[Alex Media]

Doctors is done.

[Andrew Schulz]

They should put. They do, according to Mark's mom. What, put antibiotics in the water?

[Mark Gagnon]

Exactly, bro.

[Andrew Schulz]

They need to put that in the water in Ibiza because I got away from American antibiotic water and I got sick immediately. Every time I leave the country, I just. Sick.

[Akash Singh]

I cannot handle travel, dude.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's crazy. Food poisoning at a five star hotel. Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

Yeah, but this guy gets it all the time. I went to India. India is food poisoning. It is.

[Alex Media]

Yeah, but you're Indian.

[Akash Singh]

You're supposed to be built for, buddy. I'm American. My stomach tells me that every time I go there, it's a harsh reminder.

[Mark Gagnon]

You're American, Toyota.

[Andrew Schulz]

I feel like.

[Akash Singh]

Can you have the water?

[Andrew Schulz]

I feel like you got dual loyalty, man.

[Akash Singh]

Dual loyalty.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, I feel like you got dual loyalty. I don't know if I could trust your intentions in the United States of America because you love India so much.

[Akash Singh]

I do love India, but I am American.

[Andrew Schulz]

So if. If it. You know, if it comes down to it, who are you supporting? America. India. Yo. At least he acknowledges that. You know what I Mean, I love Scotland, but y' all gonna be. I love Scotland. Scotland's number two.

[Akash Singh]

You are the biggest patriot I know.

[Andrew Schulz]

I. Come on, bro. It's the greatest country in the history.

[Akash Singh]

It is the greatest country in the.

[Mark Gagnon]

History of the world. But America versus India. You're still gonna go in?

[Akash Singh]

I love an underdog.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

I mean, let's go.

[Andrew Schulz]

But wait, hold on. America versus India? You would choose India?

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah.

[Andrew Schulz]

Why? Yeah, why?

[Akash Singh]

I don't know.

[Alex Media]

They don't even like you.

[Andrew Schulz]

I know, I know, but y' all.

[Akash Singh]

Don'T like me that much either.

[Andrew Schulz]

You are.

[Mark Gagnon]

We like you more.

[Andrew Schulz]

You're not them.

[Akash Singh]

I can't explain it.

[Andrew Schulz]

You can't even go live there. You're right, but I'm going.

[Alex Media]

I can't believe comedy.

[Andrew Schulz]

All right, Mark, that's true. You were born in France, right?

[Akash Singh]

That's true. That might have swayed me right there.

[Andrew Schulz]

What are you, America or French?

[Mark Gagnon]

Well, no one can hear anything we're saying.

[Andrew Schulz]

Sorry, I had to make this more real. Go on, I think. Oh, you got a blaster. Yeah. Yo, that's. That thing is America or India? I mean, America or France? I'm going in. America or France? America.

[Mark Gagnon]

I just want to win. Like, I'll go on the winning side no matter what.

[Andrew Schulz]

So what does that mean?

[Akash Singh]

I know.

[Mark Gagnon]

Yeah, I'm going to America. But all of a sudden, if America gets all sectioned down, it's just like, three states, and I'm going to go probably somewhere else.

[Andrew Schulz]

Damn, I want to win. Yeah, that's up. Al.

[Akash Singh]

China.

[Andrew Schulz]

Who could I choose from America or Ghana or wherever. Camera. I'd go Nigeria over America.

[Alex Media]

Nah, not really.

[Andrew Schulz]

I wouldn't last. I honestly think when it comes down to it, you're picking America.

[Akash Singh]

He swayed me with the comedy thing a lot.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah.

[Alex Media]

Come on.

[Akash Singh]

If India. If India. Standup scene was better, I'd go to India.

[Andrew Schulz]

Yeah, that's. You can't do nothing in any of these other countries. Oh, Puerto Rico. That's America.

[Akash Singh]

That's America.

[Alex Media]

Yeah, but it's not. They can't vote.

[Andrew Schulz]

They got no electricity. Yeah, like, it's a prison.

[Mark Gagnon]

Can't vote. No electricity.

[Andrew Schulz]

It's like. Yeah. Not a.

[Alex Media]

No taxes, though. So I might go Puerto Rico.

[Andrew Schulz]

So. But isn't that up now? We can't be critical of anybody. Any Jew here. That's like dual loyalty to. Or you guys can't. Because you have dual loyalty. Like a Jew in America that has dual loyalty to Israel. We can't be critical of that if you guys have dual loyalty to other countries.

[Akash Singh]

I'll criticize India. I have criticized India. They're not that happy about it.

[Andrew Schulz]

Really?

[Akash Singh]

Part of why they remind me I'm American.

[Andrew Schulz]

Really? Yeah.

[Akash Singh]

Indians get upset anytime I say anything negative about India.

[Mark Gagnon]

They get stuck.

[Andrew Schulz]

So mad. Why?

[Akash Singh]

Oh, cuz they can't handle it. Cuz they're little.

[Andrew Schulz]

But it's a bucket full of country. Why? Why? Like you should be able to just say that right? Like without. Without pissing them off. They should be. Guys, you better stand up or they not going to take you back, bro. Yeah, come on. Say no.

[Akash Singh]

I'm American, dude.

[Andrew Schulz]

We got him. We got him, bro. The boys.

[Akash Singh]

All right. New York over.

[Mark Gagnon]

Everything, man.

[Andrew Schulz]

Guys, listen. We. We love you. We love America. We want best for America. We. We hope there will be some brave politicians that will be willing to die so that we can find out who. The girls. Because we need that closure. We need that closure as Americans. So all you politicians out there, please just risk getting shot in your stupid heads so that we can get closure on this saga. Okay?

[Alex Media]

Yes, we want justice.

[Andrew Schulz]

We want justice. Yes, we want justice. We want a government we can trust. We want politicians that will do the right thing for us. And we hope that this conversation has swayed millions of people. And we hope we change the world today. I think we did.