Episode 15: Liz Shuler, President of the AFL–CIO, with Will Beshear Learning Gen-X Lingo!

Release Date: July 17, 2025
Host: Andy Beshear

Introduction

In Episode 15 of The Andy Beshear Podcast, Governor Andy Beshear welcomes Liz Shuler, the first female president of the AFL–CIO, an influential organization representing over 15 million union members across 63 different unions. This episode delves into Liz's journey to leadership, the challenges faced by the labor movement today, and the profound impact of recent legislation on working Americans. The conversation also features a lighthearted segment on Gen-X lingo with Will Beshear and John McConnell.

Liz Shuler’s Journey to AFL–CIO Presidency

[00:00 – 03:12]
Liz Shuler opens the conversation by highlighting the AFL–CIO's role as an umbrella organization for diverse unions, advocating for workers both within and outside unions. She emphasizes the organization's commitment to representing a wide range of professions, from auto workers and steelworkers to professional athletes.

Notable Quote:
“We are the face of America, frankly, what’s behind America’s unions.” – Liz Shuler [04:47]

The AFL–CIO’s Role and Representing a Broad Coalition

[04:15 – 05:49]
Andy Beshear discusses the diversity within AFL–CIO’s membership, including the United Autoworkers at Kentucky’s Ford and GM plants, steelworkers, and professional athletes. Liz elaborates on the joy and privilege of representing such a varied workforce, stressing the importance of these workers in maintaining the country’s infrastructure and services.

Recent Challenges and Legislative Impacts

[06:10 – 10:32]
Liz addresses outdated stereotypes about unions, asserting their continued relevance in combating modern issues such as child labor in meatpacking and agriculture, and the impact of technological advancements like artificial intelligence on jobs. She criticizes the recent reconciliation bill, describing it as the "most devastating piece of legislation" for working Americans.

Notable Quote:
“This is the worst job killing bill in American history.” – Liz Shuler [08:18]

Key Points:

• The bill threatens to rip healthcare from 17 million people and close numerous hospitals and nursing homes.
• Projected job losses include 1.75 million construction jobs and 3 billion work hours for construction workers.
• Increased healthcare costs for insured individuals by nearly $500 annually.

Impact on Rural America and Local Economies

[10:32 – 15:38]
The discussion shifts to the broader economic ramifications of the bill, particularly in rural areas. Liz explains how job losses in healthcare and construction will have cascading effects on local businesses and community services, such as restaurants, coffee shops, and banks. She emphasizes the interconnectedness of these sectors and the severe economic downturn that could ensue.

Notable Quote:
“Everyone will know someone who will be impacted.” – Liz Shuler [14:07]

Political Accountability and Labor Movement’s Response

[15:38 – 21:28]
Andy and Liz critique the motivations behind the bill, accusing Congress members of prioritizing special interests over their constituents. Liz discusses the influence of wealthy donors and the widening inequality gap. She advocates for mobilizing constituents to hold their representatives accountable and emphasizes the importance of collective bargaining power.

Notable Quote:
“Unions will be more relevant in the future than ever before as technology and the changing workplace continues to evolve.” – Liz Shuler [28:16]

Communicating with Working Americans and Party Politics

[18:04 – 24:30]
Andy raises concerns about the Democratic Party's communication strategy, suggesting that it fails to directly address the immediate needs of working Americans. Liz agrees, highlighting the need for authentic, issues-based communication that resonates with everyday experiences. She stresses that the labor movement must focus on common struggles rather than partisan politics to effectively advocate for workers.

Notable Quote:
“It's not going to be Democrats or Republicans that save working people. It's going to be working people who save working people.” – Liz Shuler [19:01]

Liz Shuler’s Personal Motivation and Leadership

[24:00 – 26:58]
Liz shares her personal story, growing up in a union household in Portland, Oregon. The bankruptcy of her father’s utility company ignited her passion for labor rights, inspiring her to fight for fair wages, secure pensions, and workers' rights. As the first woman to lead the AFL–CIO, she acknowledges the challenges and honors the evolving workforce dominated by women.

Notable Quote:
“Labor is really the one institution left in this country that is for everyday Americans who can come together to leverage their strength and power and balance the scales.” – Liz Shuler [24:30]

Handling Ups and Downs in Leadership

[26:58 – 29:08]
Andy draws parallels between his and Liz’s roles, discussing the stress and unpredictability inherent in leadership positions. Liz mentions finding balance through personal activities like walking her dog and highlights the resilience shown by the labor movement despite setbacks, such as the elimination of collective bargaining rights for federal workers.

Notable Quote:
“Unions will be more relevant in the future than ever before as technology and the changing workplace continues to evolve.” – Liz Shuler [29:08]

Fun Segment: Learning Gen-X Lingo

[35:37 – 46:35]
The episode concludes with a playful segment where Will Beshear engages Liz and John McConnell in a discussion about Gen-X slang. They explore terms like "kicking it old school," "rad," and "gnarly," providing humorous and relatable explanations that bridge generational gaps.

Notable Interaction:
Andy explains "kicking it old school" by comparing it to Mr. Beast's early YouTube efforts, emphasizing returning to the roots of any endeavor. [44:00]

Closing Remarks

Andy wraps up the episode by summarizing the key discussions with Liz Shuler about the impact of the new legislation on working Americans and rural communities. He reiterates his commitment to fighting against the detrimental effects of the "big ugly bill" and highlights the importance of authentic communication and collective action in supporting labor rights. The episode ends on a light note with the Gen-X lingo segment, fostering a sense of camaraderie and understanding across generations.

Final Thoughts:
“You're listening to the Andy Beshear Podcast. This next segment is called in my Kentucky Accent... Let's do this together.” – Andy Beshear [43:31]

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