
Hosted by Lawrence Lessig · EN

In this episode, Lessig and Hepburn continue the conversation, discussing the hot-button issues shaping the start of 2026. Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizens Music: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot Sessions Post-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The latest (and penultimate) episode of Season 7, continuing the conversation with Ben Hepburn.Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizensMusic: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot SessionsPost-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Pulling it all together, Lessig asks his high school friend Ben Hepburn: How can you defend this? Listen to the conversation, and the common ground that gets built. Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizensMusic:Roundpine by Blue Dot SessionsNoe Noe by Blue Dot SessionsVengeful by Blue Dot SessionsPost-production:Josh Elstro of Elstro Production Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, Lessig and Hepburn discuss what Lessig has elsewhere described as Trumps strategy of extortion — illegal threats to force compliance by every institution that might resist him. (Plus a quick trip to Vietnam, and the promise of a brand new Trump resort!)Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizensMusic:Roundpine by Blue Dot SessionsNoe Noe by Blue Dot SessionsVengeful by Blue Dot SessionsPost-production:Josh Elstro of Elstro Production Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, Lessig and Hepburn discuss the tariffs. Is there some point at which MAGA supporters call uncle?Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizensMusic: Roundpine by Blue Dot Sessions; Noe Noe by Blue Dot Sessions; Vengeful by Blue Dot SessionsPost-production: Josh Elstro of Elstro Production Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Lessig's conversation with Ben Hepburn continues, this time about Ukraine, DOGE and RFKJr Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this second episode, Ben Hepburn and Lessig continue to see where we can find common ground in our understanding of the current administration. Are we on the left too pessimistic? Is the other side too optimistic? Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this season, Lessig will have a conversation with Ben Hepburn, a friend from high school, whose politics is not Lessig's. The plan for the season is to check in regularly about the latest questions raised by the new Trump administration, and see whether a conservative and a liberal can find common ground, or even just understanding. This first episode was recorded just before in Inauguration. Become a Patreon subscriber: https://www.patreon.com/EqualCitizensMusic:Roundpine by Blue Dot SessionsNoe Noe by Blue Dot SessionsVengeful by Blue Dot SessionsPost-production:Josh Elstro of Elstro Production Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

On this episode (recorded before Tuesday's election), Lessig is joined by his colleagues Matthew A. Seligman (Stris & Maher), Ned Foley (Moritz College of Law, The Ohio State), and Derek Muller (Notre Dame Law School) to discuss what could (have) happen(ed) in the period after Election Day and before the counting of electoral votes. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, Lessig outlines what happens if Maine passes Question 1. What are the next steps, and the arguments that will get us to the Supreme Court — and to victory! Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.