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Application Security Weekly (Audio)
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About all things AppSec, DevOps, and DevSecOps. Hosted by Mike Shema and John Kinsella, the podcast focuses on helping its audience find and fix software flaws effectively.
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Reducing Attack Surface & Evaluating Efficiency in Agents - Itamar Apelblat, David Goldschlag - ASW #389
3d ago01:12:39Tap to summarizeSquidBleed reveals another vuln that's been lurking for decades, but its real lesson is in managing an attack surface. Regardless of whatever programming language you use, removing code is one of the best security steps you can take, followed by changing default configs to turn off uncommon features and ancient protocols. The Linux kernel's removal of strncpy is another example of managing attack surface by replacing a notoriously misused and ambiguous function with more specific versions that better match the developers intent. It was a six-year journey for the kernel, but one that should remove a class of vulns and, importantly, improve performance. Then it's on to agents with a discussion of the newly released OWASP AISVS and yet another example of evaluating LLMs as code reviewers. Agentic AI Has an Identity Problem AI agents are already running inside enterprise environments, operating on credentials, API tokens, and cloud roles that most security teams have never inventoried. When an agent acts autonomously across production systems, the security question is no longer just what it can do but who it is and whether that identity is governed at all. Itamar Apelblat, Co-Founder and CEO of Token Security, discusses why identity is the right lens for understanding agentic AI risk and what practical steps security teams can take now. Segment Resources: https://www.token.security/product https://www.token.security/lp/ai-agent-identity-security-buyers-guide-ebook https://www.token.security/enzo https://www.token.security/ai-agent-calculator This segment is sponsored by Token Security. To lean more, visit https://securityweekly.com/tokenidv Blended Identities and the challenge of IAM for AI AI agents aren't quite human and aren't traditional machines. So how do you secure workflows that involve humans using AI to access sensitive data, and do it at machine speed and scale? David breaks down the challenges and discusses actual implementations of IAM for AI to explain how to solve them. Segment Resources: https://aembit.io/case-study/a-300b-investment-firm-secures-claude-access-with-aembit/ https://aembit.io/blog/aembit-now-secures-microsoft-copilot-studio-agents/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSInzRUXvNc This segment is sponsored by Aembit. Get the cloud security alliance survey on AI Identities at https://securityweekly.com/aembitidv Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-389
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How AI Is Reshaping Identity Security at the Infrastructure Layer - Amit Masand, Neha Duggal, Ev Kontsevoy - ASW #388
1w ago01:10:01Tap to summarizeAppsec has seen machine identities from daemons and processes to services, microservices, and cloud accounts. And now we have agents. Ev Kontsevoy talks about what it means to have engineers and agents interacting in an environment, and why a focus on actions can be more effective than roles. One of the biggest challenges in securing agents along with all of the other identities that organizations manage is how fragmented that management has become. But a unified engineering view of identities is just a start. Once you're able to shift to a practice where access is granted based on attributes and limited durations, then your environment becomes more resilient to mistakes and unexpected actions, not to mention the security concerns that come with agents acting on their own. Who Is Responsible for an AI Agent's Actions? As AI agents gain the ability to access systems, invoke tools, and take action on behalf of users, organizations need clear frameworks that define responsibility for machine-driven decisions and outcomes. This segment examines how accountability, delegation, and attribution can be established across users, developers, security teams, and business stakeholders. Neha will explore how governance models support transparent, auditable agent-driven workflows while helping organizations manage risk and maintain trust. This segment is sponsored by P0 Security. Visit https://securityweekly.com/p0idv to learn more about them! The rapid rise of agentic AI and non-human identities is fundamentally reshaping the future of identity security, challenging traditional IAM and PAM models built around predictable human behavior. In this executive interview at Identiverse 2026, Amit Masand discusses how autonomous systems, AI agents, and machine identities are creating new operational and governance challenges for modern enterprises. Drawing from more than two decades of industry experience, the conversation explores the growing complexity of continuous governance in a world where identities increasingly operate at machine speed. Segment Resources: https://www.idmexpress.com/post/preventing-cybersecurity-incidents-through-managed-services https://www.idmexpress.com/post/cyberark-securing-aws https://www.idmexpress.com/post/turning-roadblocks-into-breakthroughs-a-custom-oracle-pam-integration-story Contact IDMEXPRESS! Secure Your Tomorrow, Today: https://securityweekly.com/idmidv Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-388
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Why Does It Matter Who or What Created the Code? - Matias Madou - ASW #387
2w ago01:06:40Tap to summarizeAgents and LLMs are creating and reviewing code. They're a new tool to help developers write software and they're a new abstraction layer for expressing what code should do. But if we're focused on determining whether code is secure, where do we focus our attention on ensuring a secure outcome? Matias Madou talks about the challenges of finding metrics to help answer these questions. We walk through many of the questions we'd like to see answered and our desire to see appsec (finally?) shift out of a find-and-fix mode into a future of secure design. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-387
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Scanner Results Are a Starting Point. Here's What Comes Next. - Federico Kirschbaum - ASW #386
3w ago01:16:23Tap to summarizeMost AppSec teams are working through more findings than their teams can validate. SAST surfaces thousands of potential issues. DAST generates alert volume that outpaces triage capacity. Somewhere in that output are the vulnerabilities that matter, the ones that are actually exploitable in production. This conversation explores why automated testing often stops short of the hardest part of the job: proving what is real. We dig into how business logic flaws and authorization vulnerabilities get missed by tools that scan without reasoning, what exploit validation looks like at runtime, and how security engineers are shifting toward findings that developers will actually act on. The segment is sponsored by XBOW. Visit https://securityweekly.com/xbow to see how autonomous AI pentesting delivers expert-quality findings in hours with real exploit validation your team can actually act on. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-386
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BadHost, Dead CTFs, Exploding NPMs, and the Verizon DBIR - ASW #385
Jun 200:45:22Tap to summarizeWe dedicate an episode to catching up on appsec news with Kalyani Pawar. We see parsing problems that led to the BadHost vuln, which exposed lots of LLMs, MCPs, and agents to potential compromise. We wonder where to look for security education and practice as the camaraderie of the CTF community becomes infiltrated by LLMs. We talk about the tradeoffs in trust between using public packages vs. having agents write replacements from scratch. And we examine some of the appsec details that the Verizon DBIR reveals about how orgs are being attacked -- and how orgs might use that information to protect themselves. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-385
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AppSec Conversations on Agents, LLMs, and OWASP from RSAC - Merritt Maxim, Scott Clinton, Janet Worthington - ASW #384
May 2600:59:40Tap to summarizeWe showcase recordings from this year's RSAC. At RSAC Conference 2026, Scott Clinton, Co-Chair and co-founder of the OWASP GenAI Security Project, shares insights from the project's latest research, including new landscape guides and evolving approaches to securing generative and agentic AI systems. The conversation explores critical gaps in GenAI data security, the rise of AI-assisted development, and the immense growth of the OWASP community and sponsor ecosystem. Looking ahead, he outlines the most urgent risks and priorities shaping AI and agentic security in 2026. Then Merritt Maxim discusses how AI is affecting Identity and Access Management. Expect to hear this topic a lot throughout 2026, especially as the industry tries to figure out what's different or special about securing agent identities. We close with a chat with Janet Worthington about the impact of agents on the SDLC and how orgs are updating their controls to deal with code generated by humans and LLMs alike. Segment Resources: https://genai.owasp.org https://genai.owasp.org/resources/ https://www.scworld.com/podcast-episode/3905-keeping-up-with-the-owasp-genai-project-scott-clinton-asw-381 This segment is sponsored by The OWASP GenAI Security Project. Visit https://securityweekly.com/owasp to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-384
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The State of AI & AppSec - Keith Hoodlet - ASW #383
May 1901:02:56Tap to summarizeThis year has been a dichotomy of established secure design fundamentals and burgeoning chaos of LLM-driven vuln discovery. Keith Hoodlet returns to share his latest observations on what the recent news about Mythos, models, and harnesses means for appsec. He walks through the problems of misalignment, the potential development doom that looms behind a volume of vulns, and what modern code creation looks like. Along the way we touch on the economics of tokens and the principles behind secure software. Keith gave a preview of his upcoming presentation (May 22nd) on these topics. Check out https://securing.dev/about/ for the slides and more of his writing on appsec. Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-383
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Why Basic Security Practices Still Work - Rob Allen - ASW #382
May 1201:11:53Tap to summarizeIf you have to ditch your entire appsec strategy because you expect 2026 to bring more vulns more quickly, then you probably didn't have a good strategy in the first place. Rob Allen shares how the mentality of "assume breach" doesn't have to be a defeatist attitude and can instead be a way to change a catastrophic breach into a more contained one. We also talk about proactive security and what an "avoid breach" attitude could look like, including how to apply the macro lessons of default deny and network isolation to writing secure code. Resources https://www.threatlocker.com/blog/the-claude-mythos-preview-proves-now-is-the-time-for-zero-trust?utmsource=cyberriskalliance&utmmedium=sponsor&utmcampaign=claudemythosaswq226&utmcontent=claudemythosasw-&utm_term=podcast https://www.threatlocker.com/capabilities/zero-trust-network-access?utmsource=cyberriskalliance&utmmedium=sponsor&utmcampaign=ztnaq226&utmcontent=ztna-&utm_term=podcast https://www.threatlocker.com/capabilities/zero-trust-cloud-access?utmsource=cyberriskalliance&utmmedium=sponsor&utmcampaign=ztcaq226&utmcontent=ztca-&utm_term=podcast This segment is sponsored by ThreatLocker. Visit https://securityweekly.com/threatlocker to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-382
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Keeping Up With the OWASP GenAI Project - Scott Clinton - ASW #381
May 501:09:11Tap to summarizeSpeed is the most common theme among developers and appsec teams working with LLMs and agents, from trying to keep up with patterns for deploying agents to dealing with more code faster to how the latest models impact code quality and security. The OWASP GenAI Project is helping organizations keep up with the speed of those changes and engaging the appsec community for sharing effective ways to keep systems secure. Scott Clinton shares the latest progress on the the project, its roadmap for the year, and how appsec practitioners can shape its future. Resources: https://genai.owasp.org/2026/04/28/finbot-ctf-is-live-a-hands-on-companion-to-the-owasp-genai-security-project/ https://genai.owasp.org/2025/01/22/announcing-the-owasp-gen-ai-red-teaming-guide/ https://www.scworld.com/podcast-episode/3695-inside-the-owasp-genai-security-project-steve-wilson-asw-352 This segment is sponsored by The OWASP GenAI Security Project. Visit https://securityweekly.com/owasp to learn more about them! Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-381
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Top 10 Web Hacking Techniques of 2025 and a Hint for 2026 - James Kettle - ASW #380
Apr 2800:44:55Tap to summarizePortswigger's list of web hacking techniques is a long-running celebration of curiosity and research from the web hacking community. James Kettle shares his thoughts on the entries from 2025 and how he expects LLMs and agents to influence what the list will look like for next year. He also shares some insights on using LLMs for his own blackbox research, giving us a peek into the work he'll be sharing at Black Hat USA this summer. Resources https://portswigger.net/research/top-10-web-hacking-techniques-of-2025 https://blackhat.com/us-26/briefings/schedule/index.html#can-ai-do-novel-security-research-meet-the-http-terminator-51894 Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/asw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/asw-380
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