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Kristin Davis
Hi, I'm Kristin Davis and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Hi everyone. Today is part three with the wonderful, brilliant Michael Patrick King. Thanks for joining us, Little segue.
Cynthia Nixon
I want to talk about the Comeback for a second.
Michael Patrick King
Okay.
Cynthia Nixon
Because I love it so much.
Michael Patrick King
Thank you.
Cynthia Nixon
It's of course whenever I watch anything else that you do the depending on the thing obviously. Right. But the comeback is always like so close to home in so many ways. Right. Because she's an actress and she's our age basically. And you know the first episode, the first season was right after the end of our show. And I've told you many times, I was just laying on the couch crying. So it wasn't a great time for me to be watching to come back, though. I really wanted to watch it, but I was just so sad, you know, and I was 40 or 41 or whatever it was, Right. So like, we didn't know what was happening. We didn't know if we were going to get our film made or what the hell was going happen right over. Yeah. So it was just painful, you know, and because Valerie is always down and trying everything in her beautiful, sweet way to get things going and trying to make the best of the situation that she's put in. It's just so heartbreaking. Right? And I love this current one and I laugh out loud so many times, but also, like, why did you name her show that?
Michael Patrick King
How's that?
Cynthia Nixon
Uh huh.
Michael Patrick King
Um, her name is. Her show is named. How's that? Because Lisa and I, after we did season two, there was never like a mandate to come back. We were just kind of like, everybody thought we did a good job and that was that. And HBO was kind of happy with it. But every now and then over the last 11 years, 10 years, Lisa and I would have lunch and we were like, what was Valerie doing? And we. Maybe there's something to come back for. We never really came up with an idea that was a big enough machine to come back. We had funny things like Chicago, which we put in the first episode. Valerie stars in Chicago, like. Cause all the real.
Cynthia Nixon
So fucking funny.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah, I know, but it was like. We knew it was like, boom. But it wasn't. You can't.
Cynthia Nixon
No, it's not a whole show, but it's super satisfying.
Michael Patrick King
It was a great thing. And we had it like five years ago. We kept thinking, well, it's not enough. So then one day we were talking and Lisa said, it's too bad Valerie wasn't around during the SAG writers strike. Yeah, because she would have been hilarious. And then all of a sudden, a door opened in my mind and I said, why can't we go back for a minute? Why can't we start then? Because if it's so funny, why don't we start then? And the thing about the SAG writers strike was when it ended, the sentence that stuck in my mind was, we're going to have to renegotiate in three years because of AI. And as soon as that's what everybody was saying at the end, it's a happy ending. But, yeah, we're still going to negotiate in three years because of AI and the minute that popped into my mind, I said. And then three years later, we have. We're at AI And Valerie's cast in the first multicam written about AI And Lisa went, click. And then we started talking about. It would be about bed and breakfast, like a typical sitcom, but we thought it was going to be all about, like, she's a Luddite and she doesn't understand technology. And Lisa, within two minutes, did a monologue as the proprietress, and she went, I don't know what. I'm doing everything I can. I don't know that I can't do any better than that. How's that? And it just came right out of her mouth. And I said, how's that? That's the sentence. That's the phrase. That's the name of the catchphrase. That's also the sitcom. So it just presented itself.
Cynthia Nixon
It didn't remind you at all of. And just like that.
Michael Patrick King
How's that? And then just like that.
Cynthia Nixon
No, you're so.
Michael Patrick King
Because it's not. Because it has the word that.
Cynthia Nixon
They're just. They're just interestingly similar, kind of like dot, dot, dot, question. You know what I'm saying? They're phrases.
Michael Patrick King
Well. And just like, that is a dot, dot, dot, to infinity, right? And this is a question mark and an exclamation point.
Cynthia Nixon
Right. I'm sorry I said that to a writer, you guys. I'm in trouble now.
Michael Patrick King
I'm just letting you know that. And just like that alludes to something happened.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes, yes.
Michael Patrick King
This is just like.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
It's a comedy, it's a sitcom.
Cynthia Nixon
Got it, got it, got it.
Michael Patrick King
It's so. I don't connect them except the word AJ AJLT Yeah. And h. Yeah. When I would see it, I go, oh, that. Yeah, I guess I like the word that.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah, I think you do. Because every time I say, I'm like, wait, is he talking about us? I mean, there's so many times then, like. Because obviously you have so many situations in there. Like, you have Benito on Benny. Well, Benit, my God, a dream, right? But that whole scene. I'm dying. That whole scene, Right. Like, I'm having similar situations in my current life, you know, I think it's
Michael Patrick King
interesting because Valerie's world is usually about people diminishing her, and she's got to fight for her thing, our world. And just like that. And Sex in the City. Never felt like there was any Mandate to diminish any of you. So the costumer clearly, to me, would never happen on one of our shows. It would happen on every other show.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh, definitely. Yeah. No, I mean, I'm having Kristen life.
Michael Patrick King
Oh, yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah. Because that is our world. You are diminished and told things by young people that are wrong.
Michael Patrick King
I mean, you realize that in season one, when she was 40, they made her an aunt in a funny, awful tracksuit.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
Like, you're done now. That part is a similar in the brand.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
Women saying, stop seeing us. Like, we're done.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
And that's the connection between.
Cynthia Nixon
And just like that. Totally, totally.
Michael Patrick King
It's like the thing that I love the most about what we did with that show was saying, stop seeing us the way you think we should be and start seeing the way we are and can be. And that not only goes from the way the characters evolved, specifically from Miranda to Miranda, but also the way that you were allowed to look and dress and I guess you're not allowed to be 58, 59, and go to a bodega in a tulle skirt without meaning the end of the world. And it's all really about how both the shows are about how women are fighting the way they are being told to be. Or seen.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes. Or not seen. Fighting to exist or don't seem right. Right.
Michael Patrick King
I mean, the great shocker of In Just like that, to me, was how there seemed to be a. Yeah, go away.
Kristin Davis
I know.
Michael Patrick King
Like, we don't need to see you now.
Cynthia Nixon
I know.
Michael Patrick King
And that happened on the second movie. Right before the second movie, there was an article in New York magazine where there were the four of you from Sex and the City, the. A promo for, like, from back in the day, and they had masking tape over.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh, I remember. That was horrible.
Michael Patrick King
It's like, what are you talking about? You haven't seen them. That was actually the first movie. You haven't seen them in four years. And they can't speak why.
Kristin Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
And that even it happened so much that I put it in the second movie when Carrie has tape over her mouth in the review of her book.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
But, like, why are they told to go away?
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
Why are they told to not speak?
Cynthia Nixon
It's like in mainstream media, told without apology to go away. That's the part that bugs me. Like, you should be embarrassed to say that. You know what I'm saying? Like, how dare you tell a whole demographic of people to go away and not speak? What is that? We know what it is.
Michael Patrick King
It's audacious.
Cynthia Nixon
It's misogyny on their part.
Michael Patrick King
Society still.
Cynthia Nixon
Right. It's society. This is why I'm not worked out about. And just like that, just so you know. Because you're like, why we begin when we began. You were telling me. Yeah. I mean, I'm not. I'm not worked out about it.
Michael Patrick King
No. There's a lot of things to. To have an unreal rest about.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
And when I was doing press for the comeback in Europe, somebody said to me, oh, I think it was a Brit. I'm sure you're hoping that this goes better than your last attempt at coming back. And I said, what are you talking about? They said the reaction to him, just like that. And you know what I said, call me in four years. It is going to.
Cynthia Nixon
I saw that quote pulled out.
Michael Patrick King
And I actually just recently heard something Lena Dunham said in her press tour about significant shows are never about when they're launched. They're about where they are in 10 years.
Cynthia Nixon
Interesting.
Kristin Davis
I like that.
Michael Patrick King
Do they stay in the consciousness? And I feel that. And just like that was incredibly well made. And anarchy again. Which is what I'm so happy about.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
Because when we started Sex in the City, it was, you're 34.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
You should have a husband.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
It was that simple.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
And if you don't, there's something wrong with you.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
And then just like that was, you're 50 something, you should have this figured out by now.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
And if you don't, there's something wrong with you.
Cynthia Nixon
Right. And also, you should just be quiet. Like, just be quiet. Mind your own business over there in the corner or whatever.
Michael Patrick King
Just quietly.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
Go into the background.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
Don't be old and bright.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
And confused.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
And alive.
Cynthia Nixon
All the things.
Michael Patrick King
Don't be people we've never seen before.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Kristin Davis
That really upset them.
Michael Patrick King
Rue McClanahan on the Golden Girls was, I think, 50, and they had already retired and were in Florida with nothing, no future. I mean, and then there are all those women on and just like that, vibrantly fighting to be themselves still. And it was quite a expression. And I think people like their stories left alone.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
It's the only thing I'm interested in.
Cynthia Nixon
I agree. It's never entered my mind that they would want their stories left alone.
Michael Patrick King
It's the same thing that made Sex and the City work is the evolution of the characters.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
And I'm really interested in the evolution of characters. And it was a bold move to come back again with Valerie Cherish 11 years later.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
But I'm Only interested in how people are growing or changing or not growing or not changing and what the stories around that are.
Kristin Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
And with you three so beloved, I thought, that'll be interesting. And then they were like, oh, okay. But maybe we didn't want them to change that much.
Cynthia Nixon
Right. Which I think, too. And I mean, I don't really know because, as you know, I'm still processing. But I also think that some of it has to do with our bigger cultural moment of upheaval. You know, like, maybe if we weren't in a total cultural chaos, they would have had more room for us to grow and change.
Michael Patrick King
You mean, if the world was calmer, the characters could have had chaos? Maybe, but chaos on chaos.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
Was a little. We want ice cream. We don't want a syllabus.
Cynthia Nixon
Right. Like. Like. Or. I don't know, a syllabus. Maybe. I wouldn't, you know. But, yes, it was a lot for them to try to take out on the other day. That seemed really smart. That was about how, you know, the success of the Pit and the Pit. The characters are obviously, you know, beautifully written and deep and, you know, whatnot, but they also are very good at their jobs and they care about the right things. So you're seeing the thing that we're not seeing in the world on your screen. Because when I first watched the Pit, I couldn't go to sleep, of course, because I have, like, medical anxiety. Right. So I was like, oh, my God, the anxiety. But then I did want to watch it. I did find myself drawn to watch it and try to try to get to sleep. I try to watch something lighter after and then go to sleep. But you know that people want to see competence and solidness. They're not being super eloquent right now in what they're seeing, because the world is not that. Right. But we are challenging. Our brand is challenging.
Michael Patrick King
I will say that everything on the Pit, which I find so interesting is the new people, and I think Noah's amazing.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
And the more people you haven't seen before. Yeah, but all those characters that are making mistakes and putting in the wrong catheter.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
20.
Cynthia Nixon
Right, right. That's a good.
Michael Patrick King
Mistakes in 59.
Cynthia Nixon
Right, right, right, right, right. That's a good point. That's a really good point, too. That's a really good point. I think all that stuff is super interesting to think about.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. I love all the humanity in the Pit. I think it's really interesting how flawed the character, especially Noah's character is and all the new faces that's what TV used to be.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah, I agree. It's beautiful. It's beautiful to watch. I agree. And I feel like we did that, too, you know, in the first show and the second show. You know what I mean? But I think my other reason that I'm still, you know, first of all, as I've said many times, and I'll say forever, you know, I still just want to work together forever.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
Because everything else is like. Like less.
Michael Patrick King
Here's the thing.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
I got to a point on Sex and the City where my story, person that lives inside my head said, we're done for now.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
You told me this, and it happened, and this felt like that. And I didn't. I respect everybody so much that I thought, we're done for now.
Cynthia Nixon
And I respect that. I just didn't necessarily expect it in that second that had happened or that moment. I mean, I wasn't shocked. Remember, when you called me, I was like, no, I felt the vibes, but I didn't feel the vibes from you. I felt the vibes from the world. And I don't mean the criticism. I just mean the strangeness. I don't know how to put it right. But, like, we really just take you for granted that you are, like, plugged into this, you know, vision board of the ethers or whatever it is, because you always really are. Which reminds me, I need to ask you something from this season specifically, but, like, I fully respect that. You are the font, right? You are the.
Michael Patrick King
Oh, look, I mean, that's a very grand statement to say.
Kristin Davis
It's just true.
Michael Patrick King
I'm happily, every now and then visited by an idea that I. This is very clear.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah. Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
And when we were doing the end of season one of it, just like that, we were standing. We were doing the blocking of Carrie moving into that house. And I knew exactly.
Kristin Davis
Season two.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah, yeah. And I saw the lights in your eyes.
Michael Patrick King
I saw a boom. I was like, I know what season three is. And I waited.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
It didn't come right. It's not. I'm not the vision board. I am the executor of a vision. But the reality is, I mean, you're
Cynthia Nixon
the receiver of the vision.
Michael Patrick King
Yes, yes, yes. Or else I have my sense of story taste.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
And I could work for you, with you forever.
Cynthia Nixon
Me, too. Yes, me too. And that's why. And good. Good. That's what I want you to say.
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It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people.
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Cynthia Nixon
So big question. Big question with some debate. Remember I love New York.
Michael Patrick King
Yes How?
Cynthia Nixon
Wait, I heart New York. I heart New York. How? Okay, so there's a picture of Willie and Sarah Jessica on the streets of New York wearing an outfit that is not ever in the show. And Sarah Jessica told us it was a scene that was at iheart New York but got cut, but that they had filmed it. But we filmed and wrapped before 9 11. Because I remember I wrapped on the 9th or something like this. Did a photo shoot on the 10th, was flying on the 11th. Sarah was starting rehearsal on the 11th. We had just wrapped.
Kristin Davis
Right.
Cynthia Nixon
But then for some reason. Bless you. For some reason, they held episodes. They cut our season into two that year. Do you remember this?
Michael Patrick King
The season was cut into six and then the rest.
Cynthia Nixon
Okay, so what we do know for sure is that we had filmed. You had written and we had filmed I Heart New York before 9 11.
Michael Patrick King
Correct, correct.
Cynthia Nixon
Got it. So anyone who thinks out there that we were somehow responding and had gone back to film. No, we. You had some kind of prescient.
Michael Patrick King
Unless the I Heart New York is the one where the autumn leaf falls.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
And Miranda's water breaks.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes. And she talks about things change.
Michael Patrick King
It was a voiceover. Now, I could have changed the voiceover.
Cynthia Nixon
Got it.
Michael Patrick King
I could have said seasons change as do cities. I remember that.
Cynthia Nixon
Got it, got it, got it.
Michael Patrick King
So I could have addressed it there.
Cynthia Nixon
Got it, got it, got it, got it.
Michael Patrick King
Because really where we addressed it was Anchors Away, the beginning of the next season, which was Fleet Week.
Cynthia Nixon
Right. That's the pregnancy season.
Michael Patrick King
And that was. We got to go downtown and spend some well earned money because of how bad downtown was.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
But seasons change, as do cities. I think I probably did redo a voiceover.
Cynthia Nixon
Got it, got it.
Michael Patrick King
Incorporate something. And we did take the World Trade Towers out of the opening credits. Right.
Cynthia Nixon
Which I thought was the right thing.
Michael Patrick King
And a couple of scenes actually when Samantha and Richard are on the roof of his apartment to swim. The whole background was the World Trade Towers. And we had quite a debate about should we take them out or leave them in our. Or take them out or leave them in. But it was after they had gone, so it made the show invalid.
Cynthia Nixon
I agree. And being in the moment. Right. Very stressful. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Michael Patrick King
Still very stressful. When you see them in things, you go, oh my God.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes, I agree totally. I agree totally. Okay. That was super helpful because I had also had some weird idea, but I think it was that when we did go back to work, they said, will you guys go downtown? Right. To be on the streets and show that we're functioning. I couldn't remember when that was. And because there was this picture of Willy and Sarah in a scene that I don't remember. And Sarah said, oh, yeah, we filmed a scene that just didn't make it in the episode. Cause obviously we had to cut things not based on anything important, just time. You know what I'm saying?
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. The only scene that I ever remember seeing pictures of that was not in anything was. There was a Willie. There was a Stanford Carrie scene in the first movie where she's in a very, very, very pretty pink dress.
Cynthia Nixon
I think this is it.
Michael Patrick King
A bright suit, a summer suit.
Cynthia Nixon
What was the scene?
Michael Patrick King
I think it was a scene right around talking about Bitsy or something. I don't remember.
Cynthia Nixon
Got it, got it, got it. So it was just cut just for time. Maybe that's what it is. This is the.
Michael Patrick King
Is she in a beautiful pink dress?
Cynthia Nixon
It's a Vivian Westwood. I think it's.
Michael Patrick King
That's from the movie.
Cynthia Nixon
Got it. Okay.
Michael Patrick King
It's from the movie.
Cynthia Nixon
This picture is what has been irk. Like, I can't place it. Yeah, okay. Got it, got it.
Michael Patrick King
It's a summer scene. He's in a gray suit. She's in a pink dress with, like, a little eyelet lace, I think, so bustier top. It's a gorgeous thing. And it was. It's from the movie.
Cynthia Nixon
Can you pull the picture up, Heather?
Michael Patrick King
It's from the movie.
Cynthia Nixon
Got it. Because that's been the thing that's been just like. What was that? What was that?
Michael Patrick King
Yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
Or even either one of you. Thank you so much. That was because when we talked to Sarah, she said, oh, I do think there was a scene cut, but maybe she's remembering also the movie, you know?
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. I mean, I don't remember ever putting a Stanford scene on the ground except for the movie.
Cynthia Nixon
That's funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Michael Patrick King
It was always so much fun. Fun.
Cynthia Nixon
Funny and fun and very. Those were, like, targeted. Like, you really wrote those with such intention.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Cynthia Nixon
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Did you see this sale on Julian's?
Michael Patrick King
I did not.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh, my God, it is so trippy and bizarre. So you can get, like. Like all of our props and stuff from. And just like that, you can go and buy them at this auction called Julian's. And there's, like, all the letters that Stanford wrote, Carrie, are there.
Michael Patrick King
Oh, that's my handwriting.
Cynthia Nixon
I know that's your handwriting.
Michael Patrick King
Every handwriting on the show is mine. Everyone the burger posted is mine. The Miranda list of pros and cons for Steve is my handwriting.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh, my God.
Michael Patrick King
Carrie. Some of Carrie's. And I. Every now and then I would say to Sarah Jessica, write this because she's left handed and has a weird signature.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
But yeah, that is definitely my handwriting in Stanford.
Cynthia Nixon
Carrie's chapters of her book are there. Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean.
Michael Patrick King
Oh, all that. That's good shit. Yes, that is good. I remember writing that and going like, this will be fun to write. And then now it's available.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah, well, it's available if you go on there and.
Michael Patrick King
And I wanted, if it was seen by Sarah Jessica, that she didn't feel like she was a bad writer.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh, that's nice.
Michael Patrick King
You know, so at least the first three pages, which you would flip there would be. Then it was right.
Cynthia Nixon
No, there's a thick looking. Oh, they just duplicated. Oh, okay. I don't think anyone. I don't think this sale is closed or whatever. So I'm sure we'll be hearing more. Got it.
Michael Patrick King
The first two pages or three pages is prosecuted and the rest is just every. All working. No playmakes jacket from the Shining. It's just. It's just repeated, repeated, repeated, repeated prop.
Cynthia Nixon
Wow, that's super funny. Okay.
Michael Patrick King
There is some legitimate writing by me.
Cynthia Nixon
Wow.
Michael Patrick King
In the beginning of me as Carrie
Cynthia Nixon
writing a book, maybe Craig should go on Julian's and bid.
Michael Patrick King
Craig actually said to me a couple of times, paige, what about this auction? I always feel like, I don't know,
Cynthia Nixon
I feel the same way.
Michael Patrick King
Like, I don't know if I want to see any of our magic.
Cynthia Nixon
I know.
Michael Patrick King
Right down to a table.
Cynthia Nixon
I know. I mean, they have Myrtle's dog bed, Richard Bird's dog bed, and the little taco dog toy. I kind of want that.
Michael Patrick King
You know what I have in my office? I have Charlotte's white opaque drinking glasses.
Cynthia Nixon
From the bedside or from the kitchen?
Michael Patrick King
No, from Sex and the City.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh, from Sex in the City.
Michael Patrick King
From her old kitchen. And every time I get a drink of water, I have that white opaque.
Cynthia Nixon
That's beautiful, Charlotte.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah, I have like six of them.
Cynthia Nixon
That was a good one. Good call, Good call.
Kristin Davis
I have Charlotte.
Michael Patrick King
Huh?
Cynthia Nixon
I have Charlotte's pink lamp from the very, very beginning.
Michael Patrick King
Fantastic. And in. And it coulda, woulda, shoulda at one point. Carrie has a very tiny silver shamrock necklace off.
Kristin Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
With a little diamond chip in it. And Pat field and Sarah Jessica gave me a duplicate of that. It's such a delicate. That I wore it. Baby chain. I wore it from the minute they gave it to me. Season 4 All the Way through and up till the movies. And I actually took it off when the first movie wasn't going to go.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh.
Michael Patrick King
Because we thought it was Going to go. And then it wasn't going to go.
Kristin Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
Couldn't make the deal. Couldn't make the deal. And that night it was three. The script was ridiculously long. It was 300 pages. I had a big fire. I had a big fireplace in LA outside.
Kristin Davis
I remember where we did the ceremony
Michael Patrick King
on New Year's Eve. And I said, all right, I have to let this go. And I took the 300 page script and I sat in front of the fire and I started throwing pages in like I was in an Ibsen play. And then, and then it was so hot. I was like. I started throwing in 30 at a time. And I was still there. My knees were. And I went upstairs and. And I took off the chain ceremonially. And I put it away, never to be thought of again. And the next day they called and said they made the deal. We're doing the movie. No way. After I had let go.
Cynthia Nixon
You made it happen.
Michael Patrick King
I let go of it.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes. That's how you made it happen. Got it. This is fascinating.
Michael Patrick King
All those years.
Bowen Yang
Wow.
Cynthia Nixon
Wow.
Michael Patrick King
And I called that baby chain because it was so delicate. Yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
Where's the necklace, huh? Where's the next.
Michael Patrick King
Oh, good, it's saved.
Cynthia Nixon
Good, good, good.
Michael Patrick King
But I saw it on Carrie. I was like, oh, there it is.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh, look, there's the picture. There's the picture. That's it. It's totally it. Can you see it? Yeah. Thank you so much for answering that question. We have asked that question in like.
Michael Patrick King
It's definitely not in I Heart New York, because that was. That. That was fall, right? That's pink. That's.
Cynthia Nixon
Got it, Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it. That makes so much sense.
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Michael Patrick King
It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people.
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Cynthia Nixon
I think because Cynthia already had Sam when we met her. You know, obviously super maternal in her own way. Right? Everyone is maternal in their own way. So I had forgotten, like it when you're really. Because now I'm steeped in the characters much more than I was when we were originally making. I'm like, yeah, this is crazy that this, you know, she's so like hardballed.
Michael Patrick King
Hardballed Racquetball.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh yes, yes.
Michael Patrick King
Everything she says about being a mother, she says, okay kids, let's forget my life.
Cynthia Nixon
I mean Literally everything she says about love.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
Do what?
Michael Patrick King
I mean, well, she says to Carrie at one point, okay, you know what else is interesting? There's some things that I didn't write. And I wrote lines off of Carrie and it happens twice. Offer a reaction. The first thing is, okay, what's with the eyes? You say, oh, yeah, it's really good. You're giving the eyes.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
There's no really words I could say. I just had them say things.
Cynthia Nixon
It was great. And it reminded me. Do you remember later when Charlotte. Just like that.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. You get the big eyes.
Cynthia Nixon
So good.
Michael Patrick King
But what about in the Miranda scene where Carrie's saying. She's saying, you're not gonna have it. She gives her a look.
Kristin Davis
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
Oh, you're right. I'm gonna give up everything I wanted in life and have Steve's baby pizza for everyone. The sarcastic.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh, my God, it's intense.
Michael Patrick King
Fantastic. Buzzsaw. And you know, that really leads to the fact that when they did those polls back in the day when we were doing the show, who do you identify with?
Cynthia Nixon
Oh, yeah.
Michael Patrick King
And it was always like 11% Miranda. And I was like, bullshit. I know so many Mirandas. But they don't want to attach to that wildly sharp wit, sarcasm and negativity
Kristin Davis
that was so important.
Michael Patrick King
You know, no one wanted to identify with that. Even though that's a lot of world.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah. And also, I mean, Miranda's brilliant.
Michael Patrick King
Brilliant. And had great jokes.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah, great jokes. And, like, she's not wrong.
Michael Patrick King
Miranda had one of those things that I love is when a character has a sense of humor.
Kristin Davis
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
And you know what? Like, it's not the writers putting jokes in her mouth.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
Like, Miranda has a sense of humor.
Cynthia Nixon
Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
And Miranda has imagined saying something funny.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Michael Patrick King
It's not like a character, an actress doing a joke. It's like, Miranda's funny, Right.
Cynthia Nixon
She's funny and whip smart.
Michael Patrick King
Like, smart.
Cynthia Nixon
I mean, super smart and insightful and just gonna call it like it is.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah, yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
I mean, it's quite smart.
Michael Patrick King
And to a fault.
Cynthia Nixon
To a fault, absolutely. But still, great storytelling to a fault. So when she does. I mean, I really was just thinking, like, yeah, this is a stretch. Like, this is a big stretch to have Miranda just suddenly decide. But when she's in the waiting room with Carrie. Oh, it just.
Michael Patrick King
She says that line. That is interesting because it was kind of, as you said, none of the writers in the writing room were at the. Trying to have children or having children yet. I think Julie might have had kids when we met her. Julie. I think Julie and Ben were together.
Cynthia Nixon
I think they were together, but I don't think they had a kid.
Michael Patrick King
Well, they don't because their kids are 13 and 17 now. And we're way past those days. Right. They had babies after. But the thing that Miranda says that's interesting is what about when I'm 40 something
Cynthia Nixon
at her scary age.
Michael Patrick King
Her scary age?
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
She says Charlotte's having trouble now and then she says, is this my baby? I know.
Cynthia Nixon
It cuts. Oh, it cuts. It's so good. It's so good. And that's also like.
Kristin Davis
Cynthia's just so good.
Cynthia Nixon
You know, she's just like. I mean, everyone's so good. When I look back. I mean, not that I didn't think they were, but, you know, the layers.
Michael Patrick King
The layers of. And the complete evolution. There's a slight evolution in everyone from doing it and being it.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
Being it. At this point, everyone's just being it.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
You guys are acting and stuff, but you're sort of embodying it. You're just living in it. Everybody's very relaxed and happy and we all know what our jobs are. And the writing is leaving space.
Cynthia Nixon
Bam. Bam.
Michael Patrick King
Oh, you mean like there's space for you to feel underneath it.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
You're saying jokes, but filling them in with subtext.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah, but that's also the editing. Like you guys were editing Michael Baron problem. Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
Amazing.
Cynthia Nixon
Because, like, there'd be silences where I remember in the beginning it would cut, cut when you spoke. Right. And then, like, you might have a two shot reaction, but now there's so many.
Michael Patrick King
Silence became a very. It had a great vibe.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
It grew into a great vibe where there was pace but also unexpected. Like people were surprised every week.
Cynthia Nixon
I mean, I'm surprised re watching it. And I thought I knew everything, but I do not.
Michael Patrick King
There was a surprising. Oh, they're gonna. Miranda's pregnant.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
How are they gonna get away with that?
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
What are they gonna do with that? Now Miranda has a baby. How's Miranda gonna be Miranda?
Cynthia Nixon
I know, I can't wait.
Michael Patrick King
Just like, how's anyone gonna be a mother.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
And still maintain themselves?
Cynthia Nixon
It's a huge question. It's still an ongoing question.
Michael Patrick King
It was relatable.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
And yet still seems current.
Cynthia Nixon
Well, this is why we're still talking about it. Why it's on Netflix and why all kind of young people come up and talk to me about it. Yeah. So nice.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
Amazing.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
But I just want to talk about the comeback for a second too, because, like, when I Think about you. And I thought about this when we were at the Human Rights Campaign, when the package rolled, which was so brilliant. And so many different things and different shows and different. So, so many different ways.
Michael Patrick King
It was a package that I put together of all my LGBTQ characters and the straight friends.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah. The allies.
Michael Patrick King
The allies.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah. And the visibility. The award was for the visibility. And it was so brilliant to see it all together because I was kind of shock much. Right. It was so much over so much time, too. And it was just beautiful to look at. And each show, obviously, is different. It has a different vibe. And that's what I was thinking about when I watched the Comeback. It's so incredibly different.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
But it has so much heart.
Michael Patrick King
But also.
Cynthia Nixon
I'm laughing out loud. But also it has so much to say about our culture, but also our industry. But also her as just a human trying so hard. And you just love her so much and you just feel for her. And, like, it's almost like everything is just stacked against her.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
All the time. And she's trying so hard. Like the one that I watched this morning, which, when I was talking to Julie and Elisa last week, I made the mistake of watching Motherboard. Rewatching motherboard while I was doing my makeup. Well, then I had to start all again, because, man, did it get me bad. You know, I mean, it cuts straight down into the grief and the loss.
Michael Patrick King
One of the great ones.
Cynthia Nixon
So great. So incredible.
Michael Patrick King
And so them.
Cynthia Nixon
So them. But then what they said was that you were the one who had said, we are gonna do this. Like it was on the whiteboard. We are going to have a death. It's gonna be Miranda's mother. This was not something that was being done in television in general, in comedies, you know, it just wasn't. But you said, we're gonna do this. And then they didn't know who would be assigned which scripts. And then as it was coming closer,
Kristin Davis
you were like, you guys.
Cynthia Nixon
And it's just so incredible what they were able to do. And then the next one, a change of address that they wrote, also incredible. Like, wow. And they really said that was because you, like, kind of brought them in. You know, they met with Darren. They almost missed the meeting. Cause they were gonna get on the plane. Cause they're so funny. And then their agent was like, no, you're going. And then they went to the writer's room, and you were there, and you just kind of cultivated them. And then you would also lean in their office and say, you're fired.
Michael Patrick King
Well, they Were terrified.
Cynthia Nixon
I love it.
Michael Patrick King
I love to scream out what the thing is. That's terrifying.
Cynthia Nixon
Definitely, Definitely. So good. But also, they were just like little kids. They were so young.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. But smart. So smart and so clever. And originals. My motherboard, myself. Oh, my God. That's their story.
Kristin Davis
It's so good.
Michael Patrick King
Sad. Mac. The computer died. That's them. And that was a good story. And then I took a big swing and said, you do the funeral and, you know, they're all us. They're all us. So, you know, it is thrilling to be able to completely have different vibrations of shows and still have something that you feel is important, a humanity to them.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Michael Patrick King
So, you know, the comeback has a wild sort of wheels coming off the cart pace that we didn't have in a lot of shows. But it does have. It suits its personality.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh, most definitely. So this morning I was watching as I was getting ready. I think it's just the most recent one where at the end they found out. I don't know. I hope I'm not.
Kristin Davis
Should I?
Cynthia Nixon
Yes. The leak, which also made me laugh out loud. But then at the end, I was just so crushed. And then I was like, don't cry. You gotta go put your makeup on. See Michael Patrick. But I mean, it was, oh, so good. When things have just like. And it's not her fault, it's not Valerie's fault, but no one sees everything that she goes through.
Michael Patrick King
They don't know the whole TikTok world turns against her. And any actress can sort of imagine that nightmare. But the thing that's great about that episode and why you probably cried is because the husband comes home.
Cynthia Nixon
Oh, thank God. I was so worried. I was so worried that he's going to come home.
Michael Patrick King
Here's the thing. If you're going to write sad, give them something definitely to. To be okay about.
Cynthia Nixon
Thank God. Yes.
Michael Patrick King
You know what I mean?
Kristin Davis
We.
Michael Patrick King
That's what we did on every. You know, if Charlotte can't get pregnant, give her a friendship where she sees someone loves her.
Kristin Davis
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
And then she shows, you know, it's all about, don't leave them there. They can get enough of that in real life. In real life, definitely. But to reflect life and then sort of of elevate or not elevate, but like, bring a little bit more energy up to it. So you have a little bit of overview. So you can sort of cry in a good way.
Cynthia Nixon
Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
Because it's fiction.
Cynthia Nixon
Well, cry in a connected way. Like you're connected and you feel, but also it's like a kind of about our culture in a way. You know, like the thing like we're just like this one tiny part of a story leaks and blows up, and then the wrong person's blamed, and then someone might be trying to defend that person, but then the other person's still blamed. And it just feels like the world is against you and doesn't understand you. And it's like, so just deeply upsetting the culture.
Michael Patrick King
You know, it is a very challenging time to be an individual.
Cynthia Nixon
Totally.
Michael Patrick King
And I would even go further. A human.
Cynthia Nixon
Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
Versus a machine.
Kristin Davis
Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
And, you know, everything that's so great about art, acting in it, writing it, directing it, is about being a human and saying, hey, this hurts and it's funny and it's this and it's that. So that's why I think we'll always sort of be here. Because I agree, we're looking for us.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes. And AI is not us. No, no.
Michael Patrick King
And there's been a million, million attempts at doing some brand, but unless it has the spark of that individual group.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
It doesn't track.
Cynthia Nixon
Right. And it's also, I believe that the things that make people laugh and or cry are unexpected things. So how is AI going to be able to do unexpected things if it's just. What's the word when you're like. Like reading everything and then spitting it back at you? There's a word. Can't think of it.
Michael Patrick King
I think it's called reading everything and spitting it.
Cynthia Nixon
Okay. There's a better word. But I can't think of it. But you know what I'm saying, it's not an original thinker. Right. So how's it going to surprise anybody?
Michael Patrick King
Unfortunately, there is a ton of television that doesn't command your heart or soul.
Cynthia Nixon
I know what you're saying to enjoy it.
Michael Patrick King
You can just watch it. You know, people always thought when we started the Comeback, it was really about the emergence of reality tv. It wasn't going to kill the narrative telling, storytelling, and it didn't. It just made a very tacky wing on the house.
Cynthia Nixon
Totally.
Michael Patrick King
Like, there's just this tacky wing that if you enjoy it, I have a judgment, if you enjoy it, you can go over there, but you can still go see adolescence.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
You know, there's a. Still a world.
Cynthia Nixon
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
Where there's some very human expression and then just stuff to watch.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
So I'm sure AI will find its stuff.
Cynthia Nixon
Well, that's a good point. That's a good point. That's a good point. How many episodes More do we have of the comeback coming?
Michael Patrick King
There's eight in total and they just aired six. Yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
Michael, what are you gonna do next?
Michael Patrick King
I'm thinking and dreaming and imagining and it's a very interesting moment because I don't have any IP right now. I have to create something completely. It's thrilling.
Cynthia Nixon
Well, that's exciting.
Michael Patrick King
Yes, very exciting.
Cynthia Nixon
Are you well rested? Have you gotten rest? Because I know you had still a
Michael Patrick King
little bit like a crack monkey looking for the button.
Kristin Davis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Michael Patrick King
Because I just came off the big press tour in the machine of it. But I don't think I ever rest. I think I.
Cynthia Nixon
It's hard to picture.
Michael Patrick King
Calm down a little bit. And I dream.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
And I then start thinking something else, like what's coming in next? What's.
Cynthia Nixon
That's good. That's good.
Michael Patrick King
What's coming into the antenna?
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Michael Patrick King
What's the next?
Cynthia Nixon
I like it.
Michael Patrick King
So it's exciting. As long as there is a next. And I think there will be.
Cynthia Nixon
How could there not be? Come on, we need you. Yeah, we need you, babe.
Michael Patrick King
And we got to work together again.
Cynthia Nixon
I know. Anytime. I mean. Yeah. We'll see if I can find anything interesting. I don't know. It's tough out there to find interesting stuff after you've had what we've had, you know.
Michael Patrick King
Journey. Me? Yes.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah. Interesting. It's interesting. Like I, there's people that I meet and I like them, right. Youngsters, really young, young directors. And I think like, yeah, yeah, I, I, I, I could go, I could go and work with them. I could go and work with them. But then it's like, it's hard because he doesn't pull all of you. Like the parts aren't. And then I'm like, should I do it if I don't care that much? Don't. I mean, tarted.
Michael Patrick King
Be open to be surprised.
Cynthia Nixon
Okay.
Michael Patrick King
Because I just had a, a meal with two really exciting up and comers and I'm like, wow.
Cynthia Nixon
Well, that's how I feel about Benny and Mary Beth.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. Come on.
Kristin Davis
I mean, right?
Michael Patrick King
They're like. I was like, wow, those are. And they're self made and they're doing it and remember we had an evolution. Yeah, everyone's going to have an evolution.
Kristin Davis
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
But the thing is be open.
Cynthia Nixon
You're right. You're right. No, that's good.
Michael Patrick King
To thinking of people as wild cards.
Cynthia Nixon
I mean, the people. I'm totally not upset with the people. It's more the overall project and I think it's because I'm Spoiled. Right.
Michael Patrick King
There's not a lot of great ideas out there that are getting a lot of light.
Cynthia Nixon
No.
Michael Patrick King
So, you know.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. Anytime people see you, they're excited.
Cynthia Nixon
It's just.
Michael Patrick King
But you do have a level now that you want to maintain.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah. That's the difficult thing, and that's where
Michael Patrick King
it gets scary, because how long can I maintain my level?
Cynthia Nixon
But it's not even so much about that, because some of that. I understand that we're in a chaos point. Right. So I'm not so much. It's more about the level of excitement of the actual creative work. That's where I get hung up.
Michael Patrick King
Up. Here's the facts.
Cynthia Nixon
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
You have a lot to give, and you've been asked to give a lot, thankfully. So to give a third.
Cynthia Nixon
Right.
Kristin Davis
Or less.
Michael Patrick King
Or less, I mean, feels a little bit disappointing.
Cynthia Nixon
Right. And then I. I don't want to go if I'm going to feel disappointed because I don't want to let the people down.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah.
Cynthia Nixon
Right. Such a hard thing to navigate. I feel like I should send you these things and get your opinion.
Michael Patrick King
I think we're done now.
Cynthia Nixon
We probably are, because now we're gonna
Michael Patrick King
just, you know, now we'll start talking about projects that no one knows about.
Cynthia Nixon
Totally. Totally. Totally. Which, you know, we don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, but, I mean, you know, this is.
Michael Patrick King
Well, send me anything you want and I'll say yes or no to it.
Cynthia Nixon
Okay, great. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, you won't. You're shaking your head. I mean, it's a joy. I mean, there's so many things I was supposed to ask you about. I'm sure, but I forgot. But I don't care because it's just a joy to follow you in a conversation.
Michael Patrick King
Well, it's a pleasure to come back.
Kristin Davis
We love you so much.
Michael Patrick King
And I love you.
Kristin Davis
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This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.
Date: June 5, 2026
Host: Kristin Davis
Guests: Michael Patrick King, Cynthia Nixon
This episode continues Kristin Davis’s deep-dive conversations with Sex and the City showrunner Michael Patrick King (MPK), joined by series star Cynthia Nixon. The trio reflects on untold stories, iconic moments, and meaningful behind-the-scenes memories from Sex and the City, its movies, the recent revival And Just Like That…, and King’s work on other projects such as The Comeback. The conversation is candid and warm, weaving themes of change, female visibility, the impact of age and media, and the key importance of authentic storytelling—and, crucially, it finally reveals the truth about that legendary “Burger Post It Note.”
The Comeback, King’s show with Lisa Kudrow, is dissected for its blend of heartbreak and comedy, and connection to their own experiences as actresses aging in Hollywood.
Naming the fictitious show ("How's That?") was inspired by a casual conversation about what Valerie (the main character) would be doing during the writers strike and reflected the AI-laden anxieties facing Hollywood.
Parallel to 'And Just Like That...': Both titles convey ongoing journeys, but with different tonalities:
The group discusses societal tendencies to “diminish” women as they age, both in media and real life.
King recalls a 2000s New York Magazine feature that literally depicted the main cast with tape over their mouths, symbolizing silencing older women.
Themes of female evolution, resistance to invisibility, and how the show’s “anarchy” challenged societal norms.
Cynthia Nixon draws parallels between the show’s creative risks and women’s real-world experiences of being told to “go away” by society.
"How dare you tell a whole demographic of people to go away and not speak? What is that? We know what it is." – Cynthia Nixon (10:04)
Cynthia Nixon brings up confusion around a photo of Willie Garson (Stanford) and Sarah Jessica Parker (Carrie) in an outfit not seen in the final episodes.
Julian’s Auctions: Many show props are now available to buy; cast and crew feel torn about their memorabilia entering the public sphere.
Importance of writing humanity into TV, even amid comedic settings.
King and Nixon praise episodes dealing with real grief ("My Motherboard, Myself") and how the show's writers brought emotional depth to “Sex and the City.”
The group touches on The Comeback's acute relatability for actresses, including dealing with public shaming and social media.
For anyone seeking insight on the inner workings of SATC, TV writing, or the persistence required for creative evolution, this episode is full of warmth, candor, and lasting resonance.