Alrighty… it’s Happening. Kyle MacLachlan is Here!

Summary

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Are You A Charlotte?

Episode: "Alrighty… it’s Happening. Kyle MacLachlan is Here!"

Host: Kristin Davis
Guest: Kyle MacLachlan
Release Date: December 1, 2025
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this special episode, Kristin Davis (Charlotte York from Sex and the City) welcomes Kyle MacLachlan, who played Trey MacDougal—Charlotte’s ex-husband in the iconic series. The conversation is a rich blend of behind-the-scenes stories, career reflections, the evolution of both actors’ roles, and the lasting cultural impact of SATC. Fans are treated to reminiscence, vulnerability, humor, and the kind of honest reflection that can only come from two actors who genuinely enjoyed working together and are eager to connect the past with the present.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reconnecting and Personal Chemistry

• Opening Banter & Decor: The episode opens with playful jokes about Kyle bringing the infamous "cardboard baby" (03:21-03:28) and an anecdote about home decor advice Kyle once gave to Kristin regarding alabaster sconces.

  • Quote:
    • Kristin: “You said, you need an alabaster sconce that's appropriate to the time, and this is where you go to get it. And I still have them.” (03:54)
    • Kyle: “It's a beautiful light that comes out of there. It's very flattering...makes us look good like the lighting you have here.” (04:10-04:18)

• Aging, Hair, and Self-Acceptance: They discuss hair (going gray) and aging on- and off-screen, embracing natural looks and “good lighting.”

  • Quote:
    • Kristin: “That's what I love about your hair. I think your hair is kind of like creating like, a beautiful halo around your face.” (04:28)
    • Kyle: “I’m glad I have it ... It's a little different color ... Been coloring my hair. I started going gray in my 20s.” (04:38-04:49)

2. Events, Fashion, and Career Versatility

• Kyle’s Involvement in the Vogue World Show:

  • MacLachlan describes walking in Baz Luhrmann’s “Vogue World” production, the excitement of meshing fashion and celebrity, and reconnecting with Anna Wintour and old crew (05:40-07:35).

• Both Actors’ Multifaceted Careers:

  • Kristin notes Kyle has had “different eras” in his career—ranging from drama, fashion, and design.
  • Quote:
    • Kristin: “I feel like you have had, in some ways, like, many different careers ...you always kind of had one foot in fashion and design.” (07:10)

3. Behind the Scenes on "Sex and the City"

• Casting Trey:

  • Kristin recalls not knowing who would play Charlotte’s love interest; Kyle shares he was initially considered for a very brief arc, but things changed after he joined the cast.

  • The Impotence Plot:

    • Quote:
      • Kyle: “They sort of go into this thing...and they said...he’s got kind of an unusual relationship with his mother...and he’s impotent. And I'm there like this, and I'm smiling, and I'm like, you know, just when you think you're gonna get out, they pull you back in.” (12:24–13:08)
    • Both reflect on how open SATC was in handling “embarrassing” or taboo topics without judgment.

  • Longer Arc Due to Chemistry:

    • Initially, Trey was intended for just a handful of episodes, but the chemistry between Kristin and Kyle led to an expanded role.
    • Memorable moment:
      • Kyle: “Good choice of word, it extended. Sorry. I'm very sorry.” (13:48)
        (joking about Trey's storyline about impotence)

  • Working Dynamics:

    • Kristin shares the excitement and challenges of rewatching episodes after decades, noting how well the writing and performances hold up. Kyle expresses appreciation for the “non-judgy” and humorous treatment of difficult subjects.
    • Quote:
      • Kyle: “...One of the strengths...was, let’s say, the conceit of what was happening was funny and embarrassing, I'll be honest. But at the same time, they gave us a chance to deal with it in a fairly educational and understanding...non-judgy...There was a deeper thing going on there.” (09:09–09:47)

4. Comic Timing and the Charlotte Character

• Deep dive into what made Charlotte (and Trey) funny and real—Kristin’s earnestness, accidental comedy, and the interplay with Kyle’s “eccentric but sweet” style.

  • Quote:
    • Kyle: “With Kristin, I said, I don't know if she realizes she's funny...It's one of the great comedic qualities...that you don't know kind of what's going on...but it's funny.” (15:49–16:27)
  • Kristin relates how, before SATC, her “big feelings” often led to unintentional humor; Jenny Bix (writer) recognized this on set.

5. Relationship Arc and Ending

• Why Trey Didn’t Return in “And Just Like That”

  • Kyle shares openly why he declined to reprise Trey, feeling the new storyline offered was too “one-joke” and didn’t honor the deep, bittersweet story he and Kristin built.
  • Quote:
    • Kyle: “I really felt like we had invested so much in this relationship, and I think culminating in that moment...when I actually return and we do the photo...and I felt like, you know, there's more here than that.” (24:04–24:14)

• Reflections on the Cardboard Baby:

  • Both actors recall the infamous breakup plot point and how Kyle puzzled over Trey's motivation—was he clueless, cruel, or just flailing?
  • Quote:
    • Kyle: “Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? ...This doesn't track for me at all. ...Do I play it that I'm clueless? ...Or do I play it that I'm trying to end it and being kind of cruel?...I finally just kind at all. I just kind of just said, cardboard baby...” (27:58–28:45)
  • Both discuss the emotional realism of the breakup, the pressures of baby-making and IVF, and how the show chose humor over stark drama.

6. Working in TV: Unpredictable Storylines

• SATC, Desperate Housewives, and Melrose Place:
  • Kyle and Kristin swap stories about the unpredictable nature of TV scripts; sometimes characters are stretched or ended abruptly due to shifting storylines and staffing.
  • Kyle: “It is one of the scary things about television about getting a script week to week ...Are you going to be naked, kill someone, have a breakdown?...A lot of trepidation.” (35:05–35:15)
  • Kristin: “That's how it was for me, big time, because Darren brought me in and then Darren left ... I was just like, oh my Jesus. God. And then they were like, now you're gonna die.” (35:17–35:44)

7. Directors and Visual Evolution

• Both reflect on how the series evolved visually—from “lo-fi” beginnings to a more cinematic style, referencing directors Alison Anders and Charles McDougall.
  • Kristin: “...the kind of evolution of the visuals ... we start getting the Sopranos directors coming in and her dollying through the rooms ... It gets better and better.” (41:32–42:10)
• Discuss the excitement (and nerves) of shooting real New York street scenes, sometimes guerrilla-style, contrasting that with elaborate set-ups later in the show.

8. Touching on Fandom and Continuity

• Both marvel at the depth of fan memory and how modern scrutiny (especially online) means every continuity quirk is noticed.
  • Kristin: “Nowadays, if you did that, the Internet would be like, Miranda never had a cat. Where'd that cat come from?...But back then, we just did it every week. We just did our stuff. We didn't worry about it.” (43:40-43:54)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Just when you think you're gonna get out, they pull you back in.” — Kyle MacLachlan, on Trey's surprise impotence storyline (13:08)
• “Good choice of word, it extended. Sorry. I'm very sorry.” — Kyle, joking about his character’s arc and storyline about impotence (13:48)
• “It's a beautiful light that comes out of there. It's very flattering light. ... makes us look good. Like the lighting you have here. It's warm and soft.” — Kyle, on decor advice and flattering light (04:10–04:18)
• “With Kristin, I said, I don't know if she realizes she's funny ... It's one of the great comedic qualities that you could possibly have, because I think there are a number of people throughout the history of film and television that you don't know kind of what's going on … but it's funny.” — Kyle (15:49–16:27)
• “I really felt like we had invested so much in this relationship ... there's more here than [a one-joke return]." — Kyle, on declining to reprise Trey in AJLT (24:04–24:14)
• “Why would I bring her a cardboard baby?...This doesn't track for me at all. ...I understand it from the outside...do I play it clueless, or do I play that I’m deliberately trying to end it?” — Kyle (27:58–28:45)
• “We just did our stuff. We didn't worry about [continuity].” — Kristin (43:54)

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Key Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-----------|---------| | 03:21 | Cardboard baby joke, warm banter begins | | 04:05–04:18 | Home decor & lighting chat, segue into aging/grace | | 05:34–07:35 | Kyle's fashion show experience, discussing style | | 09:09–09:47 | Discussing SATC's tone: humor, openness, empathy in touchy storylines | | 12:24–13:08 | Trey's casting: "unusual relationship with his mother...he’s impotent" | | 13:48 | “Good choice of word, it extended…” – double entendre humor | | 16:27 | Kyle on Kristin’s secret comedic superpower | | 23:40–24:14 | Why Kyle didn’t return in "And Just Like That" | | 27:58–28:45 | Cardboard baby: actor process on an odd story beat | | 41:16–42:10 | Visual evolution: directors, style, breaking the fourth wall | | 43:40–43:54 | Fan scrutiny, continuity, and nostalgia for simpler times | | 49:06–49:27 | The magic of filming in NY streets, making the city a character | | 50:29–50:34 | Promise of a part two with Kyle returning |

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Tone & Style

The conversation is affectionate, self-deprecating, and thoughtfully candid, with both Kristin and Kyle weaving humor into even the most bittersweet or awkward storylines. Both show deep respect for the show's legacy, each other as actors, and the passionate SATC fanbase—offering genuine insights, laughs, and the promise of more to come.

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Summary

This episode is a heartfelt, funny, and revealing look back at one of Sex and the City’s most memorable couples—balancing nostalgia with honest industry realities. Kyle and Kristin’s rapport makes for charming listening, full of wisdom about acting, aging, and finding humor even in cardboard babies.

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Stay tuned for Part Two, where Kristin and Kyle promise more deep-dive stories about Trey and Charlotte, the evolution of TV, and the enduring legacy of Sex and the City.

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Transcript

[Kyle McLaughlin]

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[Kristin Davis]

Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? So today, everybody, is a special, special day on are you a Charlotte? The one and only Kyle McLaughlin is here joining us to talk everything. Trey and Charlotte.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I brought the cardboard baby just outside of the hallway.

[Kristin Davis]

The cardboard baby's not allowed.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

No, not allowed in this room.

[Kristin Davis]

Not allowed.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

So happy to be here. Thank you for having me on.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you for being here.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Can't wait to get into everything.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, it's a fun conversation, you guys. Kyle has an amazing, amazing style and home decor.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, well, thank you very much.

[Kristin Davis]

I got some really good advice from Kyle back in the day.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, remind me what I said to you. Did I say something really good?

[Kristin Davis]

I had a really, really old, apart, Upper west side, pre war.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Beautiful.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. And I said, I don't know. There's, like, wires coming out of the walls and I don't know. And you said, you need an alabaster sconce that's appropriate to the time, and this is where you go to get it. And I still have them.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I love them.

[Kristin Davis]

I don't have anywhere to put them now.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

You still have them.

[Kristin Davis]

You save them because they're gorgeous.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. It's a beautiful light that comes out of there. It's very flat. It's a very flattering light.

[Kristin Davis]

Very warm. Light.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Warm and soft.

[Kristin Davis]

I know.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Makes us look good. Like the lighting you have here. It's warm and soft.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. I feel strongly about lighting.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

It's important, right? Oh, my God. And the older we get, the more important it becomes, right? Yeah. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

That's what I love about your hair. I think your hair is kind of like creating like, a beautiful halo around your face.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Thank you. Thank you.

[Kristin Davis]

I love it.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I'm glad I have it.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes. You still have a ton of it.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Got a lot of hair. It's a little different color.

[Kristin Davis]

I know, but wasn't it that color then, too, when you were.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I've been coloring my hair for. Well, I started going gray in my.

[Kristin Davis]

20S, which is so crazy. Is it hereditary?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

She was totally gray in college.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And did she just wear it?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Well, my mom changed her look many, many times, so she dark. You know, she colored her hair and then she had a wig phase and then. Oh, yeah, the whole thing. It was the 60s and 70s, so it was all about that.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

You know, it was kind of up style. Blonde, you know.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Got it.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

She was very, very. In the small town of Yakima, she was very fashion amazing. I guess fashion aware. Not fashion forward, necessarily. Fashion aware.

[Kristin Davis]

That would be hard.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. In Yakima.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Kristin Davis]

But I remember at the time that we were on the show, we would talk about your hair and how, like, would you ever be able to just be your natural gray self? And now you are.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And now it's happening.

[Kristin Davis]

I love it.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

It's happening. I gave up.

[Kristin Davis]

And you're embracing it.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I think it's fantastic.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Thank you.

[Kristin Davis]

And you went and walked in the Vogue world.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yes. Yeah. The other night. That was really fun.

[Kristin Davis]

Was it?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

That was really fun. Yeah, it was. I mean, Baz Luhrmann did the whole thing, and it was just so beautifully realized, I thought. And a nice. A meshing of fashion and the fashion world, of course, and all of the designers they chose for the films.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And. And it was really great. And it was huge.

[Kristin Davis]

Big.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

There's so many people there. Over 140 people walking in the show.

[Kristin Davis]

Good Lord.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. I mean, the hair and makeup room alone, I can't imagine. It wasn't even a room. It was a. They had a soundstage.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Filled.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Wow.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. It was wild.

[Kristin Davis]

Did you film it?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I did a little bit. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

That's interesting.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I felt a little, like, not uncomfortable, but like, oh, I don't want to invade. Everyone's getting ready. And I was like, not really the time you want.

[Kristin Davis]

That's a good point.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

That's a good point. So I did it kind of wide and sort of vague, but that's interesting.

[Kristin Davis]

I think that's really interesting.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah, it was cool.

[Kristin Davis]

I would like to be there. That would be interesting, though. I would not want to walk in that thing. I would be that brave.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, my God. Oh, you just walked down the street.

[Kristin Davis]

Really?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yes. On Paramount.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

You just walk down and there's people from other side. They're cheering you on. You're like, hey, nice to see you. Nice to see you. It's very positive fun.

[Kristin Davis]

I think you're very. You've walked in shows before and things you've done. A lot of things I have not done. I mean, I feel like you're.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

The time is now.

[Kristin Davis]

Well, the time is now for sure. But also, I think you have to know your, like, your wheelhouse or whatever. I don't know that that's mine.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, I would not discount that at all. I would say that you would fit right in.

[Kristin Davis]

That's very true.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

You would Be perf.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you. I don't know. I don't know. I feel like you have had, in some ways, like, many different careers, but maybe it's just different eras. Joni mean, and you always kind of had one foot in fashion and design.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah, I like all of that. And I've been able to sort of. I was able to manifest it at a certain time and it sort of stays around. I mean, that was one of the pleasures of doing this vogue world was I got to see people that I hadn't seen. Oh, for like, over 20 years.

[Kristin Davis]

Amazing.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. So some of the makeup and hair people that I remember, and Anna Wintour was there, and it's nice to see her again. And, I mean, I see her occasionally out and everything, but within the confines of the fashion element, it was really fun.

[Kristin Davis]

Nice.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

So let's go back in time.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Let's go back in time. Do we need to do anything special? Is there a music cue?

[Kristin Davis]

No, we're lo fi. We're lo fi. We just go back in our minds.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I like that.

[Kristin Davis]

Just come with me as much. As much as you can. There's your coffee. That's going to help.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

This is going to help me go back.

[Kristin Davis]

It's going to help fuel the memories.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I can tell you that right now.

[Kristin Davis]

I do think there was a lot of coffee going on in our sets because we were working all night.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Working, oh, my gosh.

[Kristin Davis]

Working all night.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Night, oh, my gosh.

[Kristin Davis]

All the time.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And it was mostly you and me. That's. Some people ask me, they say, hey, what was it like, you know, with all the girls and everything? And I was like, I don't know. I worked with Kristen and we did our thing, and then I would come out and, you know, and I'd see, you know, somebody else walking around, and John Corporate would be there in his pink slippers and fuzzy slippers and whatever bathrobe he had on. You know, you're up. You know, that was kind of the way it was.

[Kristin Davis]

But you know what? I did remember, too. And I mean, I want to talk about when you first came, but what I did remember because I was watching last night. Right. Cause you were coming. And I try, I do my best to be really disciplined about the rewatch because I haven't rewatched these things in 30 years.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

So I try to rewatch right before I'm gonna come talk to whoever it is. But with us, we had so many episodes, and it's a whole big, big storyline, and I just fell down the rabbit hole. And I was just watching and watching and watching. And then I was like, I've gotta go to sleep. I've gotta go to sleep. But it's so good. Yeah, it's really held up. Like, have you rewatched it?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I haven't re. But I remember it being good. At the time, I thought. I thought the. One of the strengths in particularly our stuff was, let's say, the conceit of what was happening was funny and embarrassing, I'll be honest. But at the same time, they gave us a chance to deal with it in a fairly educational and understanding.

[Kristin Davis]

I think so, too. Non judgy.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Non judgy. Yeah, exactly. And they mind the humor of it, but it was. It was definitely something that was. It had. I think it had a deeper. There was a deeper thing going on there, definitely. Which I really appreciated.

[Kristin Davis]

Definitely. Did they tell you when you came? Cause this is what I remember. I remember that I knew this was gonna happen, right? That this storyline was coming. We didn't know it would be you, of course. And the original plan that I think. I mean, I knew that Charlotte was gonna be hell bent on getting married, which made sense for her, blah, blah, blah. And I had my books and my different things. And I remember that being very challenging. Cause I don't really subscribe to that or whatever. But I know that I had to do exactly. I had to do my research and get the books ready. And then I knew that you were gonna come, you. Whoever you would be, Trey. And that she would get what she wanted. But then it wouldn't work out. And I didn't know why. Right.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And then.

[Kristin Davis]

And I didn't know who it would be. And at that point, we had just started to get the significant guys. Like Eigenberg was there. You know, we already had Chris, of course, from the beginning. But then Corbitt had come, and, you know, Sarah Jessica was involved. And I think Cynthia was involved in Eigenberg. And so I thought I might get to be involved. Then Michael Patrick went to a picnic one weekend and met you. Do you remember this?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I don't remember him at a picnic.

[Kristin Davis]

You were at some picnic.

[Ryan Seacrest]

I don't know.

[Kristin Davis]

He comes to work Monday morning, and he's like, I've got your guy. And I was like, wait, wait, I don't get to meet him. I said, who is he? He said, Cal McLaughlin. I was like, oh, okay. No complaints. No complaints. I'm very excited. That was how it happened. I said, well, what happen? And he said, I went to this picnic, and he was There. And I just couldn't stop thinking about how perfect he'd be. And he was so charming. Do you not remember this?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Mpk. No, no, no. I don't remember the picnic, but I do remember the meeting that I had with he and Jenny Vicks.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, got it. So you did have an official meeting?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

We did, yeah. Okay.

[Kristin Davis]

And what did they say to you?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Well, the things that stand out or stood out to me. And this, again, this is a long time ago. I think it had been presented to me, like, come, you know, join the cast. Sex in the City. He's. And a little bit of a descriptor. Like, he's from the Upper east side. You know, he has kind of a. Kind of a strong mother. He is a heart surgeon. You know, he speaks athletic, you know, and at that point in my career, I was like, this is perfect. I said, because I've been playing agent Dale Cooper, and I've been playing, you know, somewhat eccentric, sort of oddball.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Characters.

[Kristin Davis]

Not romantic characters.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Really romantic characters. And I said, this is a great opportunity to finally, you know, tap into that, because I've been kind of pigeonholed. And so I was really excited at the meeting, and I came, and I think it was at the region, the Regency, I think. Oh, wow. I think was on the hotel. Yeah. We went up uptown.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Okay. And we sat down and we had, you know, get coffee and stuff. And they were. They were talking about the show and pleasantries. You know, Jenny was there, and. And then. So they sort of go into this thing, and I'm kind of like, you know, I'm kind of excited. I talk about, you know, I think he's. He's a guy, spends time in Central park, you know, he's probably gonna be some surgery stuff, you know, And I was like, all this kind of stuff going on. And they were like, yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. And they said. But two things he said. One, he said he's got kind of an unusual relationship with his mother. She's quite domineering. So he got a very close. And. And. And he's impotent. And I was like. And I was like, he's impotent. I was like. And I'm there like this, and I'm smiling, and I'm like, you know, just when you think you're gonna get out, they pull you back in. And I was like, mother.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, but they told you.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

But they told me. Yeah, they told me. And I was like, you know, listen, it's a talented cast, talented writers. The show was incredibly popular. And I was like, I'm in. You know, what am I gonna do?

[Kristin Davis]

Thank God you're in. Thank God you're in.

[Ryan Seacrest]

And then.

[Kristin Davis]

Do you remember? And I don't know exactly the specifics, but I think I. At some point. Two things changed once you came. One was that I think originally you were only supposed to be like. It was supposed to be.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

It was a short arc. Right. It was supposed to happen three episodes or six, I don't know, it falls apart.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. Like quick.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

But then we were like, no, no, we can't part with him.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah, that was nice. Yeah, it extended, you know, and I was so happy. Good choice of word, it extended. Sorry. I'm very sorry.

[Kristin Davis]

It's okay.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

It's all right.

[Kristin Davis]

It's free here.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

That's good. It's an R rated podcast. It could be whatever visual. But I was so happy because I was really enjoying my time and working with you.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And the writing was exceptional.

[Kristin Davis]

So good.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

You know, there was. And it was funny. That was the thing. I mean, we treated it. Trey treated it. He, you know, he sort of like stiff upper lip. Sorry, that's another one. But he kept, you know, he kept, you know, he kept his sense of humor about, you know, frustrated. But. And then there I mentioned Frances Sternhagen and what a wonderful, wonderful person and actress. And so. And I thought that relationship was also very funny and fraught with all sorts of, you know, so interesting. Yeah. Like, oh, boy, this guy's in trouble. But he was an instant character.

[Kristin Davis]

He was a complicated character unlike anything else.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, but that's also why, like, in a way, like, in a way you bring something, you know, all of us actors have something that we bring. Right. And for you, what I think you bring and why you had somewhat gotten, you know, somewhat pigeonholed by Cooper because he was so amazing. Right. Because your, your relationship with lynch, with David.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, everything was. Just worked so beautifully. And I mean, I watched every episode, you know, I was a die hard, which I think when you came, I had to like, you know, like, don't fangirl. Don't fangirl, you know. Cause it's like embarrassing in a way because I've got to work with you and you've got to be Trey and blah, blah, blah. But in my mind I'm like, ah. Anyway, I. But I think you bring an intelligence, you bring a bit of a sweetness, which is kind of unexpected in someone so handsome. And then you do bring an eccentricity. And when you mix those things, it's a very unique mix.

[Albertsons and Safeway Pharmacy Announcer]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And I feel like that works so beautifully with Trey.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Well, I think you're also talking about your character.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And you. Because that mix of things.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Thank you.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Is very, very, very there right at the surface. And you have an extra thing which I think is kind of wonderful, which I don't know if we ever spoke about this, but I feel like I said with Kristen, I said, I don't know if she realizes she's funny. I think she knows she's funny if she's inadvertently funny. It's one of the great comedic qualities that you could possibly have, because I think there are a number of people throughout the history of film and television that you don't know kind of what's going on. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. But it's funny.

[Kristin Davis]

I do. Thank you. I mean, I think about that. This is what I think about that in life previous to, like, success. Right. When you're just trying to act, you know, which I've been trying to do my whole life, it was the kind of situation where, you know, with guys, like, if I was dating somebody, we got in a fight, they would laugh, and I would be so mad. But, like, my comedic. Because my feeling. My feelings are so big, Right?

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

That, like, I'd get very super animated, and then they would laugh at me, and I'd be like, stop laughing. I am serious. But, you know, they're laughing at me. Right. And so, like, at a certain point, you go like, hmm. Well, that is interesting. It does hurt my feelings in the moment. But once we started the show, Jenny Bix, when she came on, she said to me, I didn't know if you were funny or not. I thought, well, she's really pretty, and she's really nice and talented, but I don't know if she's funny. And then they wrote a scene in one of her first episodes where I contemplate having a threesome. And then it really is just the other two want to make out. Do you know what I mean? And they kind of push me off the bed, and you're kind of like, yeah. I'm like, oh, no. You know, like, very Charlotte moment. Like, she's trying something that's uncomfortable, and it doesn't go right, and I kind of fall slowly off the bed. But I'm also trying to keep my skirt from riding up, which was really me, you know.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Kristin as an actress as well, like.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, God, what a great choice.

[Kristin Davis]

And then she thought, oh, thank God she's funny.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, she recognized. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

And then they. Because they knew me. And I think because Charlotte had such an earnestness, which played to my strengths.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

So that I could. I always knew as Charlotte that the way to make Charlotte funny was to really have deep feelings, to really invest, which I think is something that I think some young actors sometimes don't understand. Like, they wanna play it cool.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

But cool is not really funny.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

You know? Right.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I think that following the truth, which I think is what you're saying in terms of what's happening in the emotion is and really believing it. And then kind of it's like you turn the dial up one more time.

[Kristin Davis]

Totally. Yes.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

So it's not extreme, but it's enough to people go, oh my God, that's hilarious.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. It's that little extra. I appreciate that.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I do have always admired that.

[Kristin Davis]

And I think we had it together so well. Like, we were so well, it was super dry, right?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Very, you know, and you were super dry.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm not super dry. Do you know what I mean? But that's why it works, right?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Kristin Davis]

When I watch us I'm just kind of amazed. Like I don't know. And I've had amazing co stars. Obviously Evan's amazing, you know who came later. Such a great actor but like the ease. I don't feel like I have a different thing with him and obviously it's been forever that we've worked together where like you kind of just know what each other's gonna do in that way. And I didn't really feel that way with you. Like, I wasn't quite sure what you were gonna do in an exciting way. Right.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, cool.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, in a way where you're, like, there.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Right, right, right, right.

[Kristin Davis]

And I also think because the relationship was written so unusually.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Like that it's not something that we've really seen before or since. Yeah, right. And I think that's partly why. And I'm just gonna leap in here because it's on my mind. Partly why you didn't want to come on and just like that and wrap it up.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Well, it was partly that. Yeah. Because I feel when they. They came and presented an idea, and I was like, I get. I see it. It's so kind of a one joke idea. Right. And I was like. And I really felt. I felt like we had invested so much in this relationship, and I think culminating in that moment when I actually return and we do the photo. Because it's important to you.

[Kristin Davis]

So sweet.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. And I felt like, you know, there's more here than that. Than that. And I was just like. And I felt like. Because it would have been fun to come back.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, we just really wanted you back.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah, I know, I know. And I was like, this would have been great.

[Albertsons and Safeway Pharmacy Announcer]

Yeah.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

But I just felt like. And so I kind of, you know, said, you know, I'd love to hear an idea. Not to insinuate myself into the show, but let's have a couple of episodes or something. Or something that has a little.

[Kristin Davis]

I agree. A beginning, middle, and an end. Not just, like, putting a finished. Like, this is what it is. Kaput. I agree. I agree. When I saw you at that party. I'm glad that I saw you at the party because I was so sad that she didn't come back. I was like, oh, what?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

What do you mean?

[Kristin Davis]

He said, no. Like, I was like, what? And of course, I didn't hear anym. I just heard that you said, yeah.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

You don't get the backstory all the time.

[Kristin Davis]

So then I was happy with. I saw you because it did make sense. And I also feel like people like. Because I wasn't ever rewatching. Right. Cause I felt like, well, I'm just gonna live in the past if I just watch the show all the time. Right. So now I have a job where I get to rewatch the show, which is fun. And it's also fun because people talk to me about it all the time, and people talk about us in a very interesting way, which is not that they don't love Harry. They do. And I think that people feel like that was the right thing for Charlotte. But I think there's also, like, whenever I. Anything comes up and I put it on social media, I can't remember what I put on. I must have been a podcast related thing. But people start in the comments like, you know, you shouldn't have given up on Trey or, you know, whatever. And then other people are like, of.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Course she should bring in the cardboard baby.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, it's a problem, right? The cardboard baby is a problem. Because then I think I put like, I can't really remember. And I still can't remember every detail because there was kind of a lot.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah, there was a lot going on there. I don't. It was kind of a blur, the end. And then we, you know, we went through kind of the difficulties and then, then there was. Then there was the too much. You know what I mean? Which people forget about that. And then. And then, and then it sort of ended. And I think in some ways, and I don't. I've never asked anyone, I said, I feel like they had to end it somehow. Right. And they didn't know.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, that's a good point.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Well.

[Kristin Davis]

Cause I think everything had gone off the track of the plan when you showed up. Cause the plan also, and I don't know if you knew this. Remember the boat that we go on, this boat with Sarah Jessica and Chris.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I had forgotten that scene until I watched it. And then I remembered that the original idea was that you were gonna be like a dud and that everyone was gonna be bored. In general. In general. The short version of Trey was that Trey wasn't interesting. The Trey looked perfect.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

And the scenario was perfect. You know what I mean? Like the.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, I could never play that.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

So you came. Thus the plan changed. Right. And obviously, I mean, I'm in that scene and you're telling the story of us meeting and Carrie's like, I already heard this story three times, you know, on the voiceover. Right. And you're telling it and I'm just laughing. I just think it's the best thing. But it's. But the original idea was that you. It would be like that couple that's super boring together and that everyone is like, oh, God, who's gonna go talk to the new husband.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. And tell him.

[Kristin Davis]

Right?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. Nobody wants to be stuck in the.

[Kristin Davis]

Corner with the husband who's gonna like, yak your ear off about some boring something. Right. But then you were, you and so it didn't really work. Right. I mean, it kind of worked like that. We were an annoying new couple. Do you know what I mean?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. Most new couples are pretty annoying.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. And I'm just giggling at everything you say. And I'm just like, y. You know, like, it's a little over the top. And she's like, oh, God.

[Albertsons and Safeway Pharmacy Announcer]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

But we couldn't. That didn't last. But that had been the original idea.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I didn't know. I didn't know. See? Interesting.

[Kristin Davis]

Well, it was. I think it just had to go out the window when you showed up. And they had to shift.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And then they had to figure out.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And then they had to figure out kind of how to end it. Yeah. Which. And I still, to this day. Because I said, what's. Why would I bring her a cardboard baby? I was literally. I was like, this doesn't track for me at all. But I said, I understand it from the outside. Like, oh, yeah. He's, like, so off track or whatever that he thinks that this is acceptable. And I said, well, do I play it that I'm clueless? And I said, I'm not clueless, or do I play it that I'm deliberately trying to end it and being so kind of cruel? Do I play that?

[Kristin Davis]

Did they say yes?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

No. This is me thinking to myself, how am I gonna make this work?

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. What'd you do?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

So I finally just kind at all. I just kind of just said, cardboard baby. And I just said, oh, well, the.

[Albertsons and Safeway Pharmacy Announcer]

It's gonna be.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I don't know what it's gonna be. It's gonna be. It's so outrageous. I said, people are gonna have any number of reactions to it. And I didn't really know where to place it.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, within the character, what I thought. Because in general. And I didn't get that far last night. Cause I was like, I will be up all night watching the show.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Okay. That's all the way to the end. That would have been amazing, right?

[Kristin Davis]

I know it would have been amazing, but I would be very, very tired right now and probably not making full sentences. And I always thought I was. This could be fun too.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And I know that as well.

[Kristin Davis]

I was like, he's not that far away. I could maybe make him come back. That's what I thought. But I think that. What I think that the idea, at least from my understanding. And I also think about this in retrospect. Like, I can't remember how old I was at this point. Like, mid-30s. All of my friends hadn't started doing the fertility stuff yet. Later on, they all did, right? And I thought, oh, shit. I do not know if I played this, like, right.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, you know what I mean?

[Kristin Davis]

Because you remember, like, I'm trying, and I want to try. And you're like, I'm tired. I don't want to try anymore. I want to play golf. That's what I remember as being the end. Do you know what I mean?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Because I'm like, I don't remember that at all. But that's very funny.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, it was painful and also kind of.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

That's pretty harsh.

[Kristin Davis]

It's harsh.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

That's enough to end it right there. We don't need to. 100%.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly. The carpet baby, I felt like, was like a. I felt like Trey was trying to be funny in a weird way. Like, I'm just gonna try to make light of this. Cause I don't know what else to do.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Do you know what I mean?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Because at that point, we were not.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

That's the right choice, actually.

[Kristin Davis]

And we were not on the same track. And you were just like, I'm gonna hope that I can make this joke and that we can get on with it and just live a happy life. That's kind of what you wanted. And, I mean, I have known couples where the woman is just so, like, you know, the baby thing can be all consuming, right? Like, fully all consuming, almost to the detriment of the relationship.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

You know, the pursuit of trying to.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. Like, you get like it's in your bones or whatever, that you have to continue. Do you know what I mean? Even though it's hell, right? Like hell on earth. I mean, we probably all have friends who have gone through this. I certainly have. And the guy is just, like, miserable and so miserable for the woman. Do you know what I mean? But there's nothing you can really do, right? Like, once you've gone to the science. You know what I mean? And I feel like that's kind of what they wrote. But I think also, because I have talked to our women writers, and I've said, like, I don't know if I really. Like, I might have needed to be even more crazy than I was just.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Because of all the hormones and everything going on. Yes, sure, sure.

[Kristin Davis]

But how deep it can go. You know what I mean? They were like, no, no, no, you did great. Cause I also think part of them. They didn't want us to really go.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Right?

[Kristin Davis]

Do you know what I'm saying? Like, into a drama, like a hardcore Drama of baby making with science.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Do you know what?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

That's the tone of, you know, following the tone of the show, which is really important, that it's. You know, that there's. There's humor and fun and there's, like, a little bit of a sadness here. More bittersweet, and then, you know, pop back into the humor. So it doesn't dwell in that area.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. And I think also dwelling in the IVF area is just like. It's like a whole other show.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. And how do you treat that with some humor? Because it's really.

[Kristin Davis]

It's really hard.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

It's pretty serious.

[Kristin Davis]

No, it's pretty serious and hard. Right. I think that the idea was that Charlotte's down that road and fully, fully committed, and you're just like, I can't. You know, I just can't. That's what I thought it was. And that's just so disappointing for her.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Well, it's also hard for me, just as a person, because I always feel myself as. I'm very supportive, you know, just. But. But this would not have been. That I would not have been playing that side and.

[Kristin Davis]

Well, because then it would have probably worked out. You know what I mean? And then we'd been there for you.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. And then we'd still be on the show.

[Kristin Davis]

Well, then you went on. You left us. You went on to do the Housewives.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yes. I entered another world.

[Kristin Davis]

You did. You stayed there a long time.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I was. Well, here's the story on that. I was brought in the first season to be the kind of the. Every season, there's a one, you know, person that does the killer, the murderer, whatever, you know.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And so they brought me in, and Mark Cherry, the creator, was saying, you know, here's kind of. Here's the arc, and, you know, you're gonna end up, you know, obviously being the killer at the end. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

No way.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. And I was like, okay. And I got in, and I started working on where we were a couple episodes in two or episodes. Four episodes. You know, you can tell pretty early on how it's going. You know, whether you feel great, comfortable, and this is wonderful.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Or it's kind of like, I really. I want to get out here. You know, it's not.

[Kristin Davis]

Of course.

[Albertsons and Safeway Pharmacy Announcer]

Yeah.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And. And I was like. I went to Mark, I said, early on, and I said, hey, man. I just. I'm having such a great time here. I love working with Marcia. I love everything. I love the fact that it's 10 minutes from my house.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I didn't say that, but it was, like, super convenient. I was just like, you know, any chance that maybe talk to the writers or consider maybe keeping me around for a little bit longer? I didn't specify. I just asked, you know, I said, what's the harm?

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And he sort of looked at me and he said, let me, let me. Let me. Let me go talk to everybody and see what they think. And he came back, not long and said, we've got an idea. And they brought in Dixie Carter. She was my mom. Another one of those.

[Kristin Davis]

Interesting.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And she was actually the mastermind. And so she became the villain.

[Kristin Davis]

Smart.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. And I was like, that's so clever because it added another layer. Very clever, unexpected layers. And now I could be, potentially, I was going to be the killer. But then it sort of fell to her. So it actually worked out.

[Kristin Davis]

Interesting.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And. And that was this. What was I on? I started. Was I on the second season or third season? Second, I think the second season. I have no idea. And then. And then we went. I went for another, like, six years.

[Kristin Davis]

I know when I looked at the dates, I was like, how. How is that possible?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Well, they ultimately ran out of stuff. It was one of those things, you know, the storylines around the women, of course, and so that was the most important. And we. And. And the men would sort of feed into the stories, right. But they couldn't. At a certain point in time, they were like, jesus, what are we going to do with this guy? You know, he's like, stealing things and he's running around doing. You know, they have. You do crazy things. It's one of the scary things about. It is one of the scary things about television about getting a script week to week. And I don't know if you have this experience as well, but on Melrose.

[Kristin Davis]

Place, I totally had this experience.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Okay, next script, it arrives and you see it on your desk and you look at it, you're like, oh, boy. Okay. And you open that first page and as you kind of look at it like this. Because you don't know what they're going to ask you to do.

[Kristin Davis]

Totally.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Are you going to be naked or are you going to be clothed? Are you going to kill someone? Are you going to kill yourself? An emotional breakdown on page 17. You know, what are they going to have you do?

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And I was always a lot of trepidation.

[Kristin Davis]

You know, I get it. Melrose. That's how it was for me, big time, because Darren brought me in and then Darren left. And once Darren left, he had thought that my character was a little bit funny. But then he left and they were like, we're just gonna make her really mean and the villain. And then crazy. And then, I mean, I was just like, oh my Jesus. God. And then they were like, now you're gonna die. And I was like, okay. I mean, I was upset cause I was young, but I was like, yeah, I see. I see that. Cause you don't know what to do with me.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I mean, it's a double edged sword. You have a job. We're so grateful we're working. I mean, it's fantastic. Like, we have no control over where.

[Kristin Davis]

The character is trying to make it work.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And you have to make it work.

[Kristin Davis]

Sometimes it just doesn't make sense. You're just like a.k.a.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Cardboard baby.

[Kristin Davis]

Totally. That's funny that you felt that, because I didn't know that you felt that.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah, I was just trying to wrestle with it. Ultimately, the choice that you said, which is he's trying to make fun of something. But I said, easy. That I was just. I was rankling at the cluelessness of it.

[Kristin Davis]

I get it, I get it.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

But at the same time I recognized, hey, they need to end it somehow. Why not? We'll go out with a. With this because it's so. It's so unfeeling.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Kristin Davis]

There's a lot of. Of things where I have, like, crystal, crystal clear memory. Like, I remember reading you, meeting you at the read through.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Do you remember meeting me at the read through?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

No.

[Kristin Davis]

Interesting.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

But I remember rescuing you. That first scene in the taxi cab.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yes.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

That scene where I fall down in the street.

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Yeah.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

It was really lovely scene.

[Kristin Davis]

It's so good. It really holds up. It's so exciting.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. I like that. The way we shot and everything about it looks.

[Kristin Davis]

It looked beautiful.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

It looks like a film, kind of.

[Kristin Davis]

It looked so much like a film. And I think it was Alison Andrews. Can anyone check if.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Right. That's good.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. But also, do you remember Charles McDougall who directed the Tiffanys?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And he's so brilliant. And one of the things that I love to look at when I look back at the show is the kind of evolution of the visuals. Because we really started out quite simply, you know, because remember, we used to have people talking to camera. We break the fourth wall. It was very kind of like reportage, you know, like on the street, you know, very unassuming in terms of, like, the shots, you know, just straightforward. And then it gets better and better and better. We start getting the Sopranos directors coming in and her dollying through the rooms, you know. Then we get Allison. Is it. Was it Allison? It's Allison Anders. Who. Do you remember her?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

She'd be like, baby, good job. Let's just do it again. She was like, so warm and like mama and comfortable. But also she was like, very indie filmmaker.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

So she had a bit of a edge in her, the way she filmed things, which is what I liked about. Because I'm with that. That husband of my friend. Because I've gone to the married people. I've basically said in that episode, which we could talk about when we get to it, but I've said to the girls at the table, like, without apology, I've been like, I'm not going to be seeing you guys as much because I have to go hang out with my married friends, which is so rude. I'm like, Charlotte, gosh. And they're like, oh, okay. They're like, wait, how does that help you find a husband? I said, they know people. The husbands know nice guys. And you have to meet the husband's friends.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

So then I go to the friend of my husband who you've. You've never seen these people before, Right. Like now with social media, the way they dissect it. And just like that, sometimes When I'm looking at Sex and City, I'm like, see? They would complain about that.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

People know everything.

[Kristin Davis]

My God.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. It's two for Twin Peaks, too. For Twin Peaks. And I'm like, I don't even remember doing that. You know, exactly. Oh, you did this, this, this, this. And I'm like, oh, my God.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. But I mean, like, it's kind of impossible in a way to withstand the. You know. Anyway, like, when I look back, like, also, Miranda has a cat, and previously she's never had a cat. And then Steve gets a dog, and then Miranda has a cat, and Steve has a dog, and there's no mention. It's really odd.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Do you know what I mean?

[Kristin Davis]

But the cat's gonna be important. Cause she's gonna have the I'm gonna die alone and the cat's gonna eat my face storyline. So I can see that they're prepping the next storyline. But, like, nowadays, if you did that, the Internet would be like, miranda never had a cat. Where'd that cat come from?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Doesn't make sense. You know what I mean?

[Kristin Davis]

But back then, we just did it every week. We just did our stuff. We didn't worry about it.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

No, that was the beauty of it. And I think, you know, going back to speak about the directors and how each one was different and brings a different sensibility and a different energy on set and a different. Really a different style, which was. And the show was strong enough to handle all these different interpretations. I mean, they weren't completely interpretations, but.

[Kristin Davis]

No, but they kind of were.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

You know, the way the camera was used. And it's such a fun thing. I remember on Twin Peaks, the same thing that they would bring in guest directors, and they always had a different, you know, kind of a different take on things. A different rhythm, different energy. And it was always interesting. I remember Uli Adele came in and directed. Oh, amazing at that time. And. And I. I initially was sort of rankling at him, and then I sort of settled in, I relaxed, and he said, oh, no, he's actually, I. Cause there's always that moment, that first day where you're like. You know, the trust.

[Kristin Davis]

Not sure.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Totally.

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Yeah. Do I.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Am I gonna let you sort of in here, or am I gonna, like, do my own thing?

[Kristin Davis]

And also, I think as actors, you. You have to have the. To do that.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. To express yourself and say what you need and what you're feeling, and that this is important to you, you know?

[Kristin Davis]

Right. And cut to when we do the Tiffany's, when. So we go. I had forgotten about the whole dinner. I go to have tea with you and Bunny, and Franny is just so unbelievably great. You're just so great. And she keeps putting her hand on you and trying to basically tell you that you don't know what you're doing or whatever and you need to do what she's saying. And then you go, alrighty. And I see. I clock this whole thing. So then we go out to dinner and I've been telling the girls, like, oh, he'. I can tell. I can feel it. This is the one. This is it. And I do believe that Charlotte 100% means that, like, it's not just her wanting to get married. Like, you are it. You know what I'm saying? Like, there's no. There's no. Like, I'm making this happen. That it really happened for her. You know what I'm saying? And I feel like that's that moment when you pick me up off the street, you know? And that's why they did it so beautifully.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah, it was very romantic.

[Kristin Davis]

So we're there with Franny, right? And I'm like, hmm. She gets him to do what she wants. That's so interesting. And then we're at dinner at whatever. I can't remember. Or clocher. Some restaurant. And you don't like your salad.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I remember. Yes, yes, yes.

[Kristin Davis]

And I put my. I try it. I'm like, I'm gonna try it. And I put my hand on you and I say, you know, maybe you should try, you know, the tomato and mozzarella or whatever.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

And you're like, alrighty. And I'm like, oh, my God, it works. And I think there's some voiceover maybe. And then I just barrel right in there and I say, I think we should get married. And without a doubt, you're just like, alrighty. And you look away. And then I'm like, oh. And then I go to Carrie, and I kind of. I didn't love my performance in this scene. I remember being stressed about it at the time. And I can't remember if it was Allison or if it's McDougal. I think it might be Alison. I don't know that she. The thing with Charlotte that I think was hard is that her stakes are so high for everything that you don't know how to modulate the scene sometimes. And I know sometimes even within just like that. Like, I would read it on the page and I would think, like, you know, this is like a regular group scene where Charlotte's just asking some questions. And then I'd get there and Michael. Patrick would be like, yell at her. And I'd be like, what? Okay.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Okay. Wasn't prepared for that. Yeah, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm like, oh, I didn't understand. He said, you are the voice of reason in this scene. And she's being insane. She's blowing up her marriage. You've gotta yell at her. I was like, oh, I've gotta yell at Miranda. Oh, my God. But I would. And he would be, right, Right. But, like, sometimes it's hard to know, like, because she's so committed to all the things that she believes, you know, and love.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

It all seems at one.

[Kristin Davis]

Right?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

You don't know.

[Kristin Davis]

Which is up, like, 100%. Which is 150%. Which is 50%, right. So that scene with Carrie, when I go and I'm, like, all shocked. I'm, like, playing shock, which is also kind of hard for a whole scene, right? And I've got. My eyes are all, like, super big, and I'm like, I proposed to myself, you know, like that, right? And she's like, oh, baby. You know, she's very much.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Which is sweet.

[Kristin Davis]

And then, like, there's no ring. And he didn't get down on his knees or anything. What did I do? You know, Because I think I've ruined, like, my one and only the moment moment. Right. Which I kind of did because I'm so, like, hell bent on this happening. But then the payoff comes, the next episode, which is when McDougal directed. And I don't know if you remember, he would put the camera, like, blocks away.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Right?

[Kristin Davis]

We're on Fifth Avenue.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yes, I remember.

[Kristin Davis]

We don't even know if we're in.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And it's real people.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

People are walking by. We're there trying to do a little scene.

[Kristin Davis]

Totally. And he's like, just. Just walk. It'll be fine. He's British. I didn't do his accent well, but he's like, just. Just walk.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

It'll be good.

[Kristin Davis]

And we're like. I'm like, oh, but I need to know my mark. And you were cool as a cucumber. Having been through, you know, been in all the films you've been in and everything.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I was just pretending. That was all. I was just pretending.

[Kristin Davis]

But you. Well, you were pretending very well. But it was really so great. Cause we walked down and I've got the little bow. And I've got kind of the Audrey Hepburn as Cardu. And we walked down to the Co of Tiffany's and somehow you just sense that I'm upset. I'm, like, pouting. And then we get to the window, and it's so beautifully framed. They go inside and they frame us in the window. And you say, you know, how about we go in there and get you the best engagement ring there is? And I'm like, ah, he is so good.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I remember that. It was really fun.

[Kristin Davis]

It was so good.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

And also, I'm just remembering shooting in New York. Shooting in the streets of New York. Yeah, it's really special. I'd never done that before. I'd been there for. We'd done the doors, and we'd come to New York for that. But that was interior, and you really weren't really in the city. But Sex and the City really, really used the city and really showed the city so well.

[Kristin Davis]

I agree. I agree. So well. Especially in the olden days because we had not enough time. So we would take the lights and roll them down the street. Do you remember this? It was kind of guerrilla ish filmmaking. But then by the time Charles came. Cause Charles would do like. We also shot in Burgdorf with the china, and we had to flip the china. And he had a crane in Bergdorf, and we had, like, 36 takes of the crane shot to FL, which was insane. And, like, at a certain point, the HBO guy would come and, like, glare at us like, you guys are over budget.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah. Charles was definitely ocd. He was one of those, it's gotta be perfect. And we're like, it's pretty close, right?

[Kristin Davis]

But he was just so talented. I was always like, do whatever the man says.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah, it's great. I really liked him.

[Kristin Davis]

God, so did I.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

He was unusual, but so cool.

[Kristin Davis]

So cool. So, so cool.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

He always wore a suit, and he.

[Kristin Davis]

Always wore a suit when he directed. Very posh, very posh. We were lucky to have him. All right, Kyle, you're too much fun, and we're gonna have to keep talking.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, good.

[Kristin Davis]

Can we come back and do part two?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Oh, it would be my pleasure.

[Kristin Davis]

Fantastic.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I was hoping you'd ask.

[Kristin Davis]

All right, you guys come back later in the week, and we're gonna continue on talking about Trey and Charlotte moments and how we remember them.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. All right, thank you. K. AG's holiday 2025 collection is here. This season, AG explores the intersection of cinematic legacy and sartorial craftsmanship. Drawing inspiration from the crews and directors behind the iconic spaghetti westerns of the 1960s. Set against the backdrop of Alabama Hills, a legendary location in film history, the collection channels, a sense of sun, bleached green grit, timeless style and quiet confidence. This collection is a tribute to the makers behind the lens, the costume designers, cinematographers and directors whose understated off screen style helped shape on screen Legacy. The Holiday 2025 collection is available now at AG jeans.com use code Kristin15 to take 15% off your next 20 order, even if you've shoved a G before. Okay, only 10 more presents to wrap. You're almost at the finish line, but first, There the last one. Enjoy a Coca Cola for a pause that refreshes.

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[Kyle McLaughlin]

Ah, greetings from my bath festive friends.

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