An Epic Day with the Girls

Summary

Podcast Summary

Podcast: Are You A Charlotte?
Host: Kristin Davis (with guest Heather Locklear)
Episode: An Epic Day with the Girls
Date: March 6, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of “Are You A Charlotte?” is a lively, nostalgia-filled conversation between Kristin Davis and returning guest Heather Locklear. The two friends spend a day together in Los Angeles, reminiscing about their lives in LA and New York, their experiences on Sex and the City, navigating the entertainment industry, and sharing lighthearted personal stories about fashion, food, and the highs and lows of auditioning. Listeners get an inside look at the blend of glamour, reality, and humor that defined both their careers and private lives, with plenty of laughs and candid moments along the way.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Life in LA vs. New York

• Moving to LA:
  • Kristin moved to LA at age 9 and later to West Hollywood after high school.
  • Both women share vivid, nostalgic memories of their LA beginnings and talk about the city’s creative energy, alternating feelings of love and frustration, and the cyclic longing for a change of scene.
    • Quote: “Sometimes I'm here and I love it, and other times I get really sick of it. But then I leave and then I miss it so much.” — Kristin Davis [02:27]
• The LA Vibe:
  • Discussion about LA being full of people “in the business,” which is both inspiring and, at times, overwhelming.
  • Both celebrate the weather and the ability to enjoy outdoor life year-round.
    • Quote: “We're in the winter and it's 80 degrees here today. Like, you cannot beat that, right?” — Kristin Davis [03:19]
• New York Memories & Real Estate:
  • Kristin still owns her New York apartment (bought in 2001) and loves splitting time between coasts.
    • Quote: “So, I bought my apartment in 2001, and I still have it.” — Kristin Davis [04:34]
  • Heather shares her experience of always renting and the fantasy of living on Central Park West, which Kristin teases as “very Charlotte of you.”
  • They compare neighborhoods: Heather’s “Brooklyn summer,” the magic of Prospect Park, stays in the Village, and the social quirks of never wanting to travel north of 14th Street.
• Tourist Spots:
  • The iconic “Carrie House” and the phenomenon of constant fans taking photos; funny stories about being ignored by fans too busy taking selfies.
    • Quote: “I try to rush by, but no one notices me because they're so busy taking their pictures.” — Heather Locklear [05:52]

Favorite Spots: Food & Shopping

• Bakeries and Sweets:
  • Magnolia Bakery and Winston Pies in NYC and LA, plus Beverly Hills Cookies as new obsessions.
  • Lighthearted banter about swapping favorite food spots and indulging in birthday treats.
• Shopping Realities & Perceptions:
  • Both actresses push back on the cliche of LA women or actresses constantly shopping.
    • Quote: “I remember a time where every interview I did, they would say either let's go shopping or where do you shop? ... I was like, no.” — Heather Locklear [09:12]
  • Reflections on legendary shops like Fred Segal and Barneys (now closed), and the shopping culture in the 90s; Alanis Morissette sighting at Fred Segal; film shoots at Barneys and memorable chaos when shopping during lunch breaks from set.
    • Quote: “It was literally lunchtime at Barney's. And the two of us thought we could go to the shoe department.” — Heather Locklear [12:16]
  • Mention of a documentary and potential TV show about the Barneys family dynasty (shoutout to Noah Levy).

The Reality of Auditioning

• Pre-GPS Struggles:
  • Auditioning in LA with the old Thomas Guide (map book), juggling outfit changes for roles, and scrambling through chaotic days before modern GPS.
    • Quote: “I have like five outfits in my car. Sometimes I changed while I was driving, which is probably really unsafe.” — Kristen Davis [16:40]
• Audition Disappointments:
  • The sting of rejection over trivial reasons, e.g. “she was wearing red lipstick.”
    • Quote: “And in the end I didn’t get it. The other girl got it. And I was like, why? Why? And they said she was wearing red lipstick.” — Heather Locklear [18:16]
  • Both agree that, though self-tapes offer more convenience now, they miss the creative spark of in-person connections (even if sometimes those auditions felt ruthless).
    • Quote: “I miss, like, connecting with people in person. Like, that's true. That's cool.” — Kristen Davis [19:03]

Inside "Sex and the City" — Getting the Part & On-Set Stories

• Casting Saga:
  • Heather recounts knowing producer Darren Starr and initially being asked to read for Carrie, but identifying more with Charlotte.
    • Quote: “He sent [the script] to me with a letter that said, will you read the part of Carrie? ... I just didn’t think I could possibly play her.” — Heather Locklear [19:18]
  • Fierce competition: “I feel like every woman in New York and L.A. was in the mix trying to get it.” — Heather Locklear [20:48]
  • Sarah Jessica Parker’s initial hesitation, Kim Cattrall’s repeated refusals, the uncertainty about the tone and casting for Samantha and Miranda.
  • Kristin’s feelings upon landing the role: anxiety, relief, and the excitement of working in New York.
    • Quote: “I had built up so much angst at that point that I wasn't even happy... I don't think I was happy until we went to New York, and then I was. It was like, whole world opened up.” — Heather Locklear [23:59]
• Costume Design & Patricia Field:
  • The process of character styling: Kristin’s research for Charlotte’s look, her push for classic East Side fashion vs. Pat Field’s downtown, ironic twist, and the creative differences that made the character multidimensional.
    • Quote: “I just wanted to be identifiable as an Upper East Side [woman]. But Pat was so downtown that I think she found that boring.” — Heather Locklear [25:46]
  • Funny memories of “looking like a Mormon child” before getting professional style help.
    • Quote: “I looked a little bit like a Mormon child when I was like...” — Kristen Davis [26:56]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “LA is the kind of place…sometimes I’m here and I love it, and other times I get really sick of it. But then I leave and then I miss it so much.” — Kristin Davis [02:27]
• “It's very Charlotte of you to live [by the park, Central Park West].” — Kristin Davis [04:49]
• “I try to rush by, but no one notices me because they're so busy taking their pictures [of the Carrie House].” — Heather Locklear [05:52]
• “I remember a time where every interview I did they would say either ‘let's go shopping’ or ‘where do you shop?’ ... I was like, no.” — Heather Locklear [09:12]
• “Sometimes I changed [outfits] while I was driving, which is probably really unsafe.” — Kristin Davis [16:40]
• “In the end I didn’t get it. The other girl got it. And they said she was wearing red lipstick.” — Heather Locklear [18:16]
• “He sent [the script] to me with a letter that said, will you read the part of Carrie?... I just didn’t think I could possibly play her.” — Heather Locklear [19:18]
• “I had built up so much angst…that I wasn't even happy…I was happy when we went to New York.” — Heather Locklear [23:59]
• “Pat [Field] would twist things ironically, even for Charlotte. She's brilliant.” — Heather Locklear [26:37]
• “I looked a little bit like a Mormon child when I was like…” — Kristin Davis [26:56]
• “It's interesting that we get to be different people.” — Heather Locklear [27:13]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:22 – Reminiscing about filming “Sex and the City” in LA
• 02:27 – Kristin’s early years in LA and feelings about the city
• 04:34 – Kristin on buying her New York apartment
• 05:41 – The “Carrie House” tourists and fan culture
• 09:12 – Debunking clichés about actresses and shopping
• 11:03 – Barneys and Fred Segal stories, major 90s shopping nostalgia
• 16:11 – Audition horror stories and the Thomas Guide
• 18:16 – When red lipstick cost you a role
• 19:18 – Heather’s “Sex and the City” casting journey
• 23:59 – The anxiety and relief of finally getting the part
• 24:27 – Being dressed by Patricia Field and defining Charlotte’s look
• 26:54 – Discovering fashion and style with professional help
• 27:13 – Embracing the chance to be different people through acting

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Tone and Language

Lively, humorous, and very conversational. Kristin and Heather’s friendship and shared experiences in Hollywood shine through, marked by warm teasing, mutual admiration, and candid reflection. The tone is authentic and relatable, mixing glamour with grounded honesty.

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Summary Takeaway

This episode is a delightful blend of behind-the-scenes anecdotes, industry wisdom, and authentic friendship. While centered on Sex and the City, it offers fans a personal look at the realities behind actress stereotypes, the evolution of auditioning, and the interplay between fiction, fashion, and real life in two iconic American cities. Whether you’re a devoted SATC fan or just love hearing Hollywood stories told with humor and heart, this episode is a satisfying, joy-filled listen.

Transcript

[Kristen Davis]

This is an iHeart podcast.

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[Heather Locklear]

Heather, my love, yes.

[Kristen Davis]

Thanks for having me back on your awesome podcast.

[Heather Locklear]

I know a two time visitor. Only very special people get to come back. I feel lucky to have you and we just had a really fun day. Thank you for being with me.

[Kristen Davis]

Thank you.

[Heather Locklear]

I love driving you around in my new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid.

[Kristen Davis]

It was awesome.

[Heather Locklear]

I know, it's so spacious.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Heather Locklear]

We can just like stretch out and relax.

[Kristen Davis]

I like being driven around by you.

[Heather Locklear]

It was really fun. It was fun because we're here in LA where we both live, but we've also both lived in New York and. And we had just rewatched the LA versions of Sex and the City where we came in like, I wanna say the year 2000, like so long ago.

[Kristen Davis]

Wow.

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Crazy, right?

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

And we went to so many places in the show that are really fun to look at just from an actor standpoint, like the Warner Brothers lie. And then we drove around today, our neighborhood. And then we went up Beverly Glen, we got pies at Winston Pies. We talked about good places to go. So I was just curious, like, when did you move to la and how do you compare New York and L. A?

[Kristen Davis]

Well, my family moved to LA when I was nine years old.

[Heather Locklear]

Wow.

[Kristen Davis]

And then I moved. I moved to Agora, so I was going to high school there and I started going on auditions to become an actress. And then, you know, I moved into the city. The minute I graduated high school, I moved to West Hollywood and then I went to UCLA for a few years. But yeah, I've lived in LA since I was 9.

[Heather Locklear]

You must have so many memories.

[Kristen Davis]

I do.

[Heather Locklear]

Is it a good thing when you drive around and you think about, oh, I remember my first audition at Warner Brothers or I remember going here.

[Kristen Davis]

It's nostalgic. I mean, there's definitely, I think LA is the kind of place. I don't know if you can relate, but sometimes I'm here and I love it and Other times I get really sick of it. But then I leave and then I miss it so much. And when I come back, I remember why I love it.

[Heather Locklear]

I mean, 100%. Absolutely. The whole time that we were doing the show, I had my house here. I got my house, I think, after the pilot. And I remember Sarah Jessica saying, why did you do that? And I was like, well. Cause it's like this tree house. And I love it because there's a part of me that needs the nature and the calmness. But then you do get bored. You can get a little bored, right?

[Kristen Davis]

I think in la, everyone's in the entertainment business. Okay, not everyone, but no majority of people. So everywhere you go, everyone's like, oh, my script, my thing, my thing. So it is nice to meet people that are doing different things, but there's so many cool, creative people here. I have so many friends here. That's one reason why I love la.

[Heather Locklear]

Absolutely. Me, too. I mean, coming back, it's very easy when you've been gone, you know, because sometimes when we're on location or whatever, it's kind of hard.

[Kristen Davis]

You're any different? We're in the winter and it's 80 degrees here today. Like, you cannot beat that, right?

[Heather Locklear]

No, we cannot beat that. We had a fun little picnic with, like, great lemonade and pies.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes. Yes. My dream of. I feel like I was on Sex and City today.

[Heather Locklear]

I'm so glad. And you look very glamorous.

[Hyundai Palisade Hybrid Advertiser]

Very, very.

[Heather Locklear]

More glamorous than me.

[Kristen Davis]

Well, I had to dress up with being with a fashion icon to, like, kind of dress up.

[Heather Locklear]

I'm so not. I play a fashion icon, but I am not a fashion.

[Kristen Davis]

You kind of are one.

[Heather Locklear]

You're so sweet. I don't think. I don't. I don't think of myself that way because I. I do feel like sometimes in life, especially in la, which the vibe is, like, really relaxed. Sometimes when I'm out in the world, like, at the grocery store or whatever, I feel like people are like, oh, that they're disappointed that you're not more dressed up. Yes.

[Kristen Davis]

That's funny. But you look very glamorous. Thank you.

[Heather Locklear]

I'm not trying.

[Kristen Davis]

I just have my, like, Chanel jacket and my Chloe, like, jeans. I'm not trying. I got a shirt. No, it's because you're here.

[Heather Locklear]

It's because you're here. It was only for you.

[Kristen Davis]

Normally I just throw on some yoga clothes.

[Heather Locklear]

I know. Yeah. And the Ugg boots.

[Kristen Davis]

Right?

[Heather Locklear]

Me too. And then people are like, oh, yeah, I'm Like, I'm so. I feel the pressure. You know what I mean? I do, I do. But you always look incredible. All right, let's compare. When did you live in New York?

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, well, I have a place in New York still.

[Hyundai Palisade Hybrid Advertiser]

No way.

[Kristen Davis]

So I bought my apartment in 2001, and I still have it. Yes.

[Heather Locklear]

That was so smart.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes. Yes.

[Heather Locklear]

See, I never bought. I always rented. And then.

[Kristen Davis]

Seriously, you must have had a place there.

[Heather Locklear]

I had a. I had a place that I really loved, right by the park. Central Park West. It was like, where the Fuddy Duddy people lived.

[Kristen Davis]

It's very Charlotte of you to live. I know, right?

[Heather Locklear]

So. Charlotte. Because I always had my dogs with me, right? So then I needed the park, and I love the park. But then there came a time, and

[Kristen Davis]

it was like, downtown is cooler, right?

[Heather Locklear]

Oh, my God. So cool. And, I mean, I have friends who don't want to come, you know, north of 14th Street. And it's challenge, but I just go down.

[Kristen Davis]

It's fine.

[Hyundai Palisade Hybrid Advertiser]

I go down.

[Heather Locklear]

I get it. But now, because I don't have a place anymore because my business manager at a certain point was like, that's not smart. And I'm like, all right, so now I stay in Airbnb. So you get to pick and choose and kind of live all the different.

[Kristen Davis]

So what's your favorite neighborhood in New York?

[Heather Locklear]

Well, we did a Brooklyn summer.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, that's nice.

[Heather Locklear]

Incredible.

[Kristen Davis]

I love Brooklyn. Yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

Prospect Park. Incredible. But then last summer when we filmed the show, we stayed in the Village, so it was pretty amazing.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, you know, the Carry House is such a tourist attract. I think I actually posed in front of. No, I got a picture on the

[Heather Locklear]

st. Yeah, they really don't like us.

[Kristen Davis]

They're very mad at us because everyone's posing in front. You walk down that street, you find people posing there.

[Heather Locklear]

I know. 20, including me. 7. I think that's adorable. I walk on the other side, and I try to rush by, but no one notices me because they're so busy taking their pictures. But they put a chain up now.

[Kristen Davis]

So are the neighbors. They don't like it.

[Heather Locklear]

It's not even the neighbors. It's the owner of the building. We're not allowed to say the address.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay, okay, everyone. But everybody knows. Also, you know, the Sex and the City got me into Magnolia Bakery Cupcakes, which I'm obsessed with.

[Heather Locklear]

The last time we did a Hyundai film, we went to the Magnolia. We sat on the bench. It was incredible. I love Magnolia, but I love Winston Pie, too. See, now we're seeing. I know the different places to go. New York, la.

[Kristen Davis]

And I told you, you got to try Beverly Hills Cookies.

[Heather Locklear]

I'm excited.

[Kristen Davis]

I'm excited.

[Heather Locklear]

Heather's sharing some places, some LA places for me to go. She told me some restaurants to go to. I love it.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, Beverly Hills Cookies was just my birthday, and so a friend sent me some, and now I'm obsessed. They taste so good. They're so good.

[Heather Locklear]

So, wait, so you still have your

[Hyundai Palisade Hybrid Advertiser]

place in New York?

[Heather Locklear]

How often do you get there?

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, I try to go a lot. I mean, right now, since it is, like 15 degrees in New York and it's 80 degrees here, I'm pretty happy to be here. But no, I love going there. I do.

[Heather Locklear]

That's so nice. You do both. That's good. That's the like.

[Kristen Davis]

Because it's like an investment property as well. So different than having, like a. For sure Airbnb.

[Heather Locklear]

Yeah, yeah, for sure. For sure. I mean, that's so smart that you bought it and held on to it.

[Kristen Davis]

I know. Really got it a long time ago. Yeah, it's good. Yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

Really, really good. I should have been so smart. But no, no, no. I was busy buying la.

[Kristen Davis]

Own property in la, so that's.

[Heather Locklear]

I know, I know. It's all good. It's all good. No complaints here. No complaints here. You know how there's so many cliches about la? What do you find to be true? A cliche that you find to be true, and maybe one that you don't think is true.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay, well, the very worst thing about la, I will just say the thing I hate about LA is the traffic.

[Heather Locklear]

I mean, no joke.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, you can sit in your car easily two hours a day just running some very basic errands. Like, that's crazy.

[Heather Locklear]

This is true. But this is why I need to give you my list of Brentwood things. Because, see, I don't cross the 405 if I don't have to.

[Kristen Davis]

I know. That's smart.

[Heather Locklear]

Do not. That is like, you got to get.

[Kristen Davis]

A lot of. My friends are living over on.

[Heather Locklear]

Well, they need to come down.

[Kristen Davis]

I know. You're right. That's why I got into cooking and inviting people over.

[Heather Locklear]

Definitely. Definitely. Key, key, key. Like, just get your life over here on the west side, and then you don't have to get in that mess. But, yes, it's hard. And you know what I find interesting in New York? There's really bad traffic and people are like, well, LA can't be worse. I'm like, unfortunately, it can. But also sometimes you'll get stuck in New York. Like one time, I remember my parents were visiting in New York and we were trying to go see a play and we couldn'. Get off the Upper west side to get to the play and we missed it. Oh my God.

[Kristen Davis]

But couldn't you just park your car and take a subway or. I don't know.

[Heather Locklear]

I mean, maybe, but we were in a weird like, where we were, there wasn't a sub, like. And I think because I had my parents, I was less agile, you know what I'm saying? If it had just been me, I would have been like, let's do it.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, the upside to New York is like, if there's terrible traffic, you know, they have great public transportation.

[Heather Locklear]

Good point. Here they have a point. No, they do. They have a new train.

[Kristen Davis]

They do, but it goes to like one place. I mean, it's not practical. Right.

[Heather Locklear]

Listen, my kids have that train. Yeah. It goes to some kid places. Yes, they love it.

[Kristen Davis]

One cliche that is true is that the weather's awesome, right?

[Heather Locklear]

Yes.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, of course that we have some moments of bad weather, but the weather is pretty great.

[Heather Locklear]

I mean, the weather is incredible and I do love it. I would say, I think there's a cliche. It's not exactly la, but it's an actress based cliche. We talked about this a little bit earlier when we, when we did go shopping, but we were comparing notes and really neither of us shop very much. I remember a time where every interview I did, they would say either let's go shopping or where do you shop? Like it seemed to be what they thought we did with the majority of our time. I was like, no. I mean, we're so used to fittings. Like, I don't want to go try on clothes in a place for no reason.

[Kristen Davis]

I don't really like shopping. Me neither. I mean, occasionally, but yeah, I don't know.

[Heather Locklear]

I don't either. I like to have my places that I might go and pop my head in that are small. Like where we went today, the market where it's like own the owners there and it's really personal. I love that. But I don't want to go to a big store. I get very overwhelmed really quickly. I think that's a big misconception about actresses in general because we're kind of

[Kristen Davis]

some like we're trying to get a job or we're optioning a book or we're, you know, working on our next thing. Yeah, it's not like we're just running around shopping all the time.

[Heather Locklear]

No. Like, that's a crazy life. Like, how? Why?

[Kristen Davis]

I don't even know. Maybe it's because you were in, like, an iconic TV show where you had so many fabulous, fabulous outfits.

[Heather Locklear]

I guess. I mean, because technically, how do you get those outfits? Right? You would theoretically have to shop. But then also, I mean, I would think Charlotte would be online, you know, buying things online.

[Hyundai Palisade Hybrid Advertiser]

Right.

[Kristen Davis]

No, it's so great. When you, like, buy something online, it just comes to your house.

[Heather Locklear]

I mean, right? I love it. Like, what do we do before that? Gosh. Except I do remember, and I wonder if you have any memories. It just came to me. Fred Siegel.

[Kristen Davis]

I know. That popped in my mind when you talk about shopping. That used to be the spot. That and Barney's.

[Heather Locklear]

Yes. Oh, my God.

[Kristen Davis]

One of them is, like, exists anymore, right?

[Heather Locklear]

Pain of both of them being gone.

[Kristen Davis]

It's crazy.

[Heather Locklear]

When I drive by Barney's in Beverly Hills, I'm like, what the. It's messed up that it's not there.

[Kristen Davis]

That was, like, the pinnacle. I remember when I first moved to la, and I was, like, this little, small person with, like, really no money, and I'd be like, barney's is like the holy grail of clothes. Like, I felt like I couldn't afford anything, but I aspired to, like, buy

[Heather Locklear]

something there one day, walk around. You didn't even have to buy anything. It was just the vibe. And Fred Seagull also. I have a good 90s story of Fred Siegel. What? I saw Alanis Morris at the one time. It was so exciting. I was with my girlfriend, Melanie.

[Kristen Davis]

She saw you, so that's like.

[Heather Locklear]

She was very. It was like, the height of Alanis time, and she was with this beautiful man, and I had a golden retriever puppy, and the beautiful man wanted to say hi to the golden retriever puppy. We were eating at that little cafe there at the Santa Monica one, and Alanis hung back in a way that made me wonder what was happening. Like, who wouldn't want to pet this beautiful puppy?

[Kristen Davis]

I was like, oh, my God, it's Alanis.

[Heather Locklear]

And then I was like, try to breathe, try to breathe, try to breathe. Cause I love her so much. So much. I just had that flashback. But, yeah, Fred Siegel was, like, the spot, and Barneys was the home.

[Kristen Davis]

My friend is making a documentary about Barney.

[Heather Locklear]

No way.

[Kristen Davis]

And he's gonna. I'm sure he would love to interview. And I think he's trying to do, like, a TV show about the family dynasty of Barneys. Amazing.

[Heather Locklear]

I have a lot of Barney's stories. I mean, we filmed him.

[Kristen Davis]

His name was Noah Levy, just to give him a shout out.

[Heather Locklear]

We filmed in Barney's and then also Sarah Jessica and I one time went shopp on a lunch break when we were filming near there.

[Kristen Davis]

It didn't.

[Heather Locklear]

It was kind of a mess. Our security guards had to get us out. It was literally lunchtime at Barney's. And the two of us thought we could go to the shoe department.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, my God. Everyone in Barney's is like, ah.

[Heather Locklear]

It was very bizarre. And we had tried to elude our security guys because we just wanted some us time. But one of them, Q, had followed us and was hiding.

[Kristen Davis]

That's cute. He's good at his job. Right?

[Heather Locklear]

We needed him.

[Kristen Davis]

And we were like.

[Heather Locklear]

It was really sweet. And then we had a time where we. For some reason I can't remember if it was the movie, they did windows and each character got a designer. And each window was a fairy tale. But our character and mine was Proenza Schooler. Isn't that so amazing? And then we went to the party for that. And then my final Barney story is that when Barney's had already sadly closed and we started, and just like that, we had our opening party there.

[Kristen Davis]

It was so strange what's happening in that building now.

[Heather Locklear]

You can rent it.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay.

[Heather Locklear]

For events.

[Kristen Davis]

Wow.

[Heather Locklear]

But I think someone told me they're going to turn it into apartments, which could be really cool to live in Barney's. Wow. Wow.

[Kristen Davis]

Wow. Because you guys shot a lot of scenes in Barney's.

[Heather Locklear]

We did. We went to Barney's pretty frequently.

[Kristen Davis]

One time.

[Heather Locklear]

This was really fun too. This is a fun meme. One time Charlotte is volunteering at this place for people who are blind. And so she goes to Barney's with a Burberry eye patch on and tries to see what it would be like to be blind. So there's a funny little picture of me in the shoe department with my eyes covered. And do you remember the Sandy Bullock movie Bird Box?

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Heather Locklear]

Where people you have to blindfold so that they can't get you and they put funny comparison memes.

[Kristen Davis]

It was really adorable. Oh, my God.

[Heather Locklear]

Anyway, that's very random reference. Yes.

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[Heather Locklear]

Audition stories. Horror story. Do you have a audition?

[Kristen Davis]

Well, all right. Do you remember this is before they had whatever gps, right? I don't know if you had this, but when the Thomas guy. Yes, the Thomas guy, yes. You'd be auditioning in LA and you'd have like. Because I didn't really know the city that well. So you have this book and it's like page 397 41. Now they're like go to 5, 8, 6 9. You're like trying to like flip through the pages like ah, you know.

[Heather Locklear]

I know. And then some of my pages would fall out because they were like the ones that we went to a lot. And so I'd be like, where'd the page go? It'd be on the floor.

[Kristen Davis]

Wait, did you have this like where you brought different outfits in your car? Because maybe one role you went up for was like the sweet innocent girl and another one was like the slutty, like whatever. And then you're like, oh, the sophisticated businesswoman. So I have like five outfits in my car. Sometimes I changed while I was driving, which is probably really unsafe. But I was just like.

[Heather Locklear]

Because it wasn't like a good place at all of the audition.

[Kristen Davis]

It's like it could take you like 45 minutes. Yeah, you had to like you never knew.

[Heather Locklear]

Oh my God. Can you believe everything we went through? And now everyone self tapes.

[Kristen Davis]

So you use this. Use the Thomas.

[Heather Locklear]

Oh, the Thomas guy. I mean, how would we have lived?

[Kristen Davis]

I don't know. Now it's so easy. You're just like address ban. I mean like someone tells you what to do. Thank you.

[Heather Locklear]

Just like that Hyundai has that nice map. I mean, I really dig that. I need a kind of a large map, you know, that's not going to be hard to look at because you know, the eyesight isn't what it used to be. So I'm excited. I'm excited about that nice big screen in the Hyundai. I'm digging it. I know, right?

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

Okay. Horror story or just the Thomas Guide?

[Kristen Davis]

Horror story about auditioning. I mean, what about you? Do you have one?

[Heather Locklear]

I mean, I have to dredge to come up with one. I mean, gosh, I'm sure I have so many. I do remember this one time just floated through my head. Remember how like you would go, and then they'd call you back and they'd call you back and they'd call you back and then sometimes you wouldn't get it. One time there was some movie, it was horrible. Some horrible film. I can't even remember the name. And I really wanted it and I got really close. It was between me and one other girl. And in the end I didn't get it. The other girl got it. And I was like, why? Why? And they said she was wearing red lipstick. What?

[Kristen Davis]

That makes no sense.

[Heather Locklear]

I know. It was good.

[Kristen Davis]

Like you could just wear red lipstick.

[Heather Locklear]

I was like, they could have asked me to wear red lipstick.

[Kristen Davis]

But it was one of those.

[Heather Locklear]

Mom, you really go like, oh, okay. It's all ridiculous. Yeah, Everything about this is ridiculous. Yeah, that is helped me see that. I think that's why I still remember it.

[Kristen Davis]

Wow.

[Heather Locklear]

Like that was like a valid. A valid reason. Like a valid reason. I mean, I feel like I would

[Kristen Davis]

go in on auditions and sometimes you could tell, like, oh, these people really like me. Like I have a good chance. And then I. There's occasionally you go on auditions. You're like, these people really hate me.

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[Heather Locklear]

You know, do you remember how they would interrupt you sometimes in the middle of a scene and be like, thank you. Oh, I mean, I can't even believe that we lived through it all.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean. Yeah, you're right. Now everyone just puts like self tape auditions.

[Heather Locklear]

And I know people complain a lot about it, but at least no one's gonna be like mean to you.

[Kristen Davis]

But I miss, like, connecting with people in person. Like, that's true. That's cool.

[Heather Locklear]

I feel like, creatively, when you could connect, it was amazing.

[Kristen Davis]

That was amazing, right?

[Heather Locklear]

Cause then you knew.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, okay, okay, this is dorky. But, like, what was your. So did you just get offered the part in Sex and the City? Or did you have to audition for it? Or, like, what did you kind of.

[Heather Locklear]

So I knew Darren Starr, who created the show, because I'd been on Melrose, and he was. I knew he had made a deal at hbo, and we were like, whoa, what's that gonna be like? Cause they really didn't have original programming so much. They just had Larry Sanders, which is a great show, which I was a guest star on, was amazing. But I couldn't picture Darren's show there. I was kind of like, what's he gonna do? And they said, oh, he's gonna do this thing based on this book by Candice Bushnell. And I read it and I. Oh, he sent it to me. He sent it to me with a letter that said, will you read the part of Carrie? Because they had wanted Sarah, but then she got in cold feet. She was nerv. Committing to television. And so they were trying to come up with a backup. But Carrie in the original script was a little bit, like, more than she ended up being under with Sarah Jessica's touch. So she was swearing and smoking and kind of really brash. And I just didn't think I could possibly play her. So I was like, darren, this is a mistake. I need to be this other girl.

[Kristen Davis]

So you told her I need to be Charlotte?

[Heather Locklear]

Yeah, I told Darren that, and he was like, are you sure? Because the way they described Carrie in the script was that she had the body of Heather Locklear and the brain of Dorothy Parker.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, that's cool.

[Heather Locklear]

And I was like, I'm neither of those things.

[Kristen Davis]

What? You can be that.

[Heather Locklear]

Come on. I didn't feel like I could be that at the time, but I'm glad because I did really relate to Charlotte.

[Kristen Davis]

So then did you have to audition for it, or they just gave it to you?

[Heather Locklear]

So then he said, no, no, no. Oh, everybody wanted those parts.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

I'm sure you were on some film or you would have also been in the mix. I feel like every woman in New York and L. A was in the

[Kristen Davis]

mix trying to get it. Yes.

[Heather Locklear]

Because it was so unique.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

And so great. Because at that point, there wasn't a lot filming in New York.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

So the idea of filming in New York about, like, something around women.

[Kristen Davis]

That's amazing.

[Heather Locklear]

Unheard of.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Heather Locklear]

So I had to test. Okay, do you remember when did you

[Kristen Davis]

have to test with other people? Like, you saw other people.

[Heather Locklear]

Other people, but Willie Garson, you know, other people for other parts.

[Kristen Davis]

Right, but not, like, another actress for your part.

[Heather Locklear]

I think there might have been one other actress who I kind of knew who. I was like, oh, no. He was saying, like, people that you would see over and over again. Did you have that? And she's a very nice person. If she's listening, she's a very nice person. But I was like, oh, no, please don't get it. And we were there. So there was, like, men and women, you know, for Big. And then Willie was there. He was the only person, I think, for Stanford, because Sarah was like, what

[Kristen Davis]

about, like, where other people, like, was. Miranda and Samantha were there.

[Heather Locklear]

I think there were Samantha's and Miranda's, but I think they'd already offered it to Kim, and I think Kim had also turned it down. And I think they were really torn about how funny those two parts should be. So there was a comedian in there, I think, where I was like, whoa, that's. I wasn't thinking that. You know what I'm saying? And then obviously, they went more actory, but they just couldn't. They didn't exactly know what they were doing.

[Kristen Davis]

But it was Cynthia and.

[Heather Locklear]

No, Cynthia was in New York. She had already read. She'd read pretty early, and she really wanted it. But they took forever to decide on any of us, except for Kim and Sarah that they'd offered it to. Right. But then Kim kept turning them down. Sarah got cold feet for a while, then kind of got back, you know, thankfully.

[Kristen Davis]

And how did Kim turn around? Like, what happened with. Like, she just decided last minute.

[Heather Locklear]

Darren talked her into it. I don't know how exactly. I don't know how exactly. I just know that both of them, they were more well known than Cynthia and I. Cynthia was known in the Broadway world. I had really only ever done Melrose. Right. So they were both more well known. I think back then you had to choose between film and tv. You know, it wasn't like that.

[Kristen Davis]

And now it's not.

[Heather Locklear]

Yeah, now that's gone altogether. But I think back then, like, once you did tv, even if it was hbo, you were thought of differently. You know what I'm saying? So I think that was some of the pressure for both of them.

[Kristen Davis]

But I'm not sure. It's like everyone's trying to get into tv Absolutely.

[Heather Locklear]

Well, that's because films, I mean, they don't make enough. I know. It's so sad because I love film, obviously.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay, thanks for telling that story. It was really interesting.

[Heather Locklear]

Was it okay?

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[Heather Locklear]

Okay.

[Kristen Davis]

And when you got it, what did you do? Like, what were your.

[Heather Locklear]

Well, I was super nervous because they took forever to tell me. Like, you know, how you would. I don't know if you ever did this in the olden days when you would audition for something that was, like, a big deal, a big network deal. They had, like, a date that they had to tell you by. They waited till, like, midway through the day of the final date.

[Kristen Davis]

Wow.

[Heather Locklear]

I mean, it was so stressful, right? And I had gone to a movie to try to get through the day. And I remember I was in Santa Monica at the amc, and I was walking through that parking lot, and I had my cranky, big cell phone back then, you know, And I called Dave, my manager. I was like, what?

[Kristen Davis]

Have you heard from them?

[Heather Locklear]

And he was like, yes, you got it. And I was like, oh, thank God. But I was just like. Like, relieved. You know what I'm saying? Like, I had built up so much angst at that point that I wasn't even happy, I don't think. I don't think I was happy until we went to New York, and then I was. It was like, whole world opened up, you know, which was really fun. I know. It was exciting. And also, it's just so exciting to be able to be in both worlds.

[Kristen Davis]

That's great. You know, also, I wouldn't. Okay, this is just me interviewing you, but I would love to be, like, dressed by Patricia Field. Right.

[Heather Locklear]

Oh, incredible. Incredible.

[Kristen Davis]

Can you imagine? Just like, okay, make me cool. And then she just does.

[Heather Locklear]

Right? Well, it wasn't exactly like that because I was playing Charlotte. Right.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay, so you weren't supposed to be. I mean, you were.

[Heather Locklear]

Well, yes. Cool. But Charlotte. Right. And in my mind, I had an image of what I thought she should be. And I went to the Upper east side and did a lot of research, but Pat didn't necessarily agree with me.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay, what were you thinking? And what was.

[Heather Locklear]

I was thinking, like, what I saw on the Upper east side.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Heather Locklear]

Do what I'm saying. This is what, like, classic Ralph Lauren. Long, straight, brown hair. You know, like, constrained.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

But that's not really how Pat thinks, as we all know.

[Kristen Davis]

So what did she think? Just, she. Wow.

[Heather Locklear]

I mean, in the beginning, she tried to dress me in all kind of crazy things, and I was like, no. And then she was stressed. And then I remember one time Darren took me out to dinner. And whenever Darren called you to go out to dinner, you knew that you were in some trouble.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay. Yeah, yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

So you were just waiting. You were just gossiping and talking until he told you what you were in trouble for. So we were walking home. We both lived on Central park west at the time. We were walking home, and I was like, darren, what is it? You know, we're walking home. And he said, well, I just want you to trust Pat because she knows better than you do.

[Kristen Davis]

In other words, your taste is bad. So, like, listen. Right, right.

[Heather Locklear]

Definitely. But at that point, it wasn't even my taste. I just wanted it. I wanted to be identifiable as an Upper east side. But Pat was so downtown that I think she found that boring.

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[Kristen Davis]

Okay.

[Heather Locklear]

So, like, and I'm not saying that she was wrong, because there is an episode where Charlotte goes back and has brunch with her college friends, and she

[Kristen Davis]

realized that's when you try to be more like Samantha and she tries to be more like you.

[Heather Locklear]

Yes. And I realize I'm the Samantha of my college friends, and I'm wearing a little tank top with a sweater tied.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

In my mind, that's how I thought Charlotte should dress the whole time.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay.

[Heather Locklear]

But Pat was way better.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay.

[Heather Locklear]

You know what I'm saying? Like, Pat would twist things ironically, even for Charlotte.

[Kristen Davis]

She's brilliant.

[Heather Locklear]

She's brilliant.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

But it wasn't so easy as, like, make me cool.

[Kristen Davis]

Do you know what I mean? No. I mean, I grew up in suburbia, and my family, we didn't think a lot about clothes. Like, we went to, like, Marshalls. You know what I mean? So when I started acting. Acting, I started going to, like, these fancy stores, and I was like, what is this?

[Heather Locklear]

Yeah. Oh, I felt that way.

[Kristen Davis]

I looked a little bit like a Mormon child when I was like.

[Heather Locklear]

I looked like a frumpy, preppy Southern child. You know what I mean? Like, I wore wide whale corduroys with, like, ducks embroidered on them.

[Kristen Davis]

That sounds cute.

[Heather Locklear]

I don't know. I don't know if it was cute or not. Thank you.

[Kristen Davis]

Now I want to see a picture of that.

[Heather Locklear]

It's interesting that we get to be different people.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah, it is, right? Because if I didn't have help, I think I would have looked really bad. Like, me, too.

[Heather Locklear]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Heather Locklear]

No, that's true.

[Kristen Davis]

My hair, makeup, too, was really questionable.

[Heather Locklear]

I mean, weren't all of ours with

[Kristen Davis]

our eyebrows without, like, being an actress and having, like, professional people be like, don't do that. Do that. You know, I would definitely.

[Heather Locklear]

Oh, it's super helpful to have the pros. We need the pros. For sure. All right. Thank you, Heather.

[Kristen Davis]

Thank you.

[Heather Locklear]

And I want to say thank you to Hyundai for a really fun day.

[Kristen Davis]

Thank you for this day. It was great.

[Heather Locklear]

I mean, what a fun day. And you're a joy.

[Kristen Davis]

Thanks for inviting me. You're amazing.

[Heather Locklear]

Such a joy.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah, it was fun.

[Heather Locklear]

Yay.

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[Heather Locklear]

Let's go eat some more pie.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay, Great.

[Hyundai Palisade Hybrid Advertiser]

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[Heather Locklear]

Great. Foreign.

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[Kristen Davis]

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