BONUS CONTENT: Everything Has a Price When It Comes to Mr. Big’s Funeral - Molly Price Returns...

Summary

Podcast Episode Summary: "BONUS CONTENT: Everything Has a Price When It Comes to Mr. Big’s Funeral - Molly Price Returns..."

Introduction

In this bonus episode of Are You A Charlotte?, hosted by Kristin Davis, the conversation centers around one of the most pivotal moments in the iconic series Sex and the City: Mr. Big’s funeral. Joining Kristin is Molly Price, a recurring guest who provides unique insights and behind-the-scenes anecdotes from the set. This episode delves deep into the complexities of filming such a significant storyline and explores the enduring legacy of the show’s characters.

Discussing Mr. Big’s Funeral

Kristin Davis opens the discussion by welcoming Molly Price back to the podcast. They immediately dive into the eventful day of filming Mr. Big’s funeral, highlighting unexpected challenges and emotional moments.

Kristin Davis [06:04]: "We are back with Molly Price, and we're gonna talk about when she came back to see us on the first season, the first episode, actually."

Molly recounts her initial confusion regarding the funeral’s portrayal, revealing that not everyone on set was aware of the true nature of the storyline.

Molly Price [04:40]: "They didn't want anybody to know. So the whole day we had to keep it a secret because the background artists were all under the impression that the person they were there to memorialize was a woman."

This secrecy was crucial to maintain the element of surprise for the audience and preserve the integrity of the narrative.

Behind-the-Scenes Anecdotes

The conversation shifts to lighter moments and unexpected reactions during filming. Molly recalls a particularly humorous incident involving Sarah Jessica Parker.

Kristin Davis [06:22]: "Do you remember this? Were you there for this part?"

Molly Price [06:22]: "Yes."

Kristin Davis [06:23]: "There was, like, puppies and kitties and pandas... Sarah was just like, ah. Just fell on her knees and started hysterically laughing."

Sarah Jessica Parker’s uncharacteristic laughter during a serious scene added a layer of authenticity and spontaneity to the filming process.

Molly Price [07:08]: "They were trying to trick everybody, so they didn't know what was going on because it was such a huge storyline, such a huge reveal."

Challenges of Maintaining Secrecy

Kristin and Molly discuss the meticulous efforts taken to ensure that plot details remained confidential. This included secure handling of scripts and strict on-set protocols.

Kristin Davis [07:31]: "We have this elaborate thing with our scripts as well, which I'm sure they put you through with the watermark, and you have to, like, sign into the thing to get them."

Molly Price [07:40]: "Yeah."

The comparison to working for the FBI underscores the high level of security maintained to protect the show's narratives from leaks.

Reactions and Reflections

Molly expresses her honor in being part of such a groundbreaking show, acknowledging its significant impact on television and culture.

Molly Price [08:08]: "It was just television history in terms of your association to that. You guys really changed the landscape of television."

She reflects on the enduring recognition she receives for her role, emphasizing the show's lasting legacy.

Molly Price [09:53]: "People are like, are you Susan Sharon? And then I'm like, well, not really. And then they freak out."

Character Archetypes and Legacy

The discussion transitions to the archetypal nature of the Sex and the City characters, exploring how each represents different facets of womanhood.

Molly Price [19:15]: "They do represent all the different, you know, chakras of a woman's, you know, the types of women that exist in the world."

Kristin Davis [19:34]: "It's so well done. It's an orchestra. And it would, nobody would work without the other one. It's the synergy. It's the magic of that show."

This synergy among characters like Carrie, Miranda, Charlotte, and Samantha is highlighted as a key element of the show’s success and enduring appeal.

Conclusion

As the episode wraps up, Kristin and Molly reflect on the different phases of the characters’ developments and their personal connections to them. The conversation underscores the timeless relevance of Sex and the City, celebrating its influence on both television and its viewers.

Molly Price [19:46]: "It was an honor to be here. Thank you for being here, for letting me be part of it."

Kristin Davis [19:46]: "So fun to catch up."

Notable Quotes

• Kristin Davis [06:04]: "We are back with Molly Price, and we're gonna talk about when she came back to see us on the first season, the first episode, actually."
• Molly Price [04:40]: "They didn't want anybody to know. So the whole day we had to keep it a secret because the background artists were all under the impression that the person they were there to memorialize was a woman."
• Molly Price [19:15]: "They do represent all the different, you know, chakras of a woman's, you know, the types of women that exist in the world."
• Kristin Davis [19:34]: "It's so well done. It's an orchestra. And it would, nobody would work without the other one. It's the synergy. Is really. Is the magic of that show."

Final Thoughts

This episode of Are You A Charlotte? offers a nostalgic and insightful look into the making of Sex and the City, particularly focusing on the emotionally charged and meticulously planned scene of Mr. Big’s funeral. Through heartfelt anecdotes and reflections, Kristin Davis and Molly Price celebrate the show's legacy, shedding light on the complexities behind its beloved characters and unforgettable moments.

For fans and newcomers alike, this episode serves as a testament to the enduring impact of Sex and the City and its ability to resonate across generations, continuing to inspire conversations about relationships, identity, and the pursuit of fulfillment.

Transcript

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[Kristin Davis]

Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I wanna know, are you a Charlotte? So we are back with Molly Price, and we're gonna talk about when she came back to see us on the first season, the first epis, actually, of. And just like that, I think it was the first episode. Yeah. So it was really fun because we got to have her back after all these years with a totally different hair color. Unfortunately, you come to Big's funeral. So for anyone who doesn't know Big Ties, I had a guest on the other day, Molly, who did not know.

[Molly Price]

Oh, no. Oh, no.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. I felt like someone who's told a child that there is no Santa Claus.

[Molly Price]

Oh, no. I bet.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. She was very upset with us. Even though she wasn't necessarily like a Big Stan, she still seemed very upset. Yeah, it was really interesting. I didn't think there was anyone who didn't know, but that's because I live in my own bubble of.

[Molly Price]

Do you remember shooting that day? Because all of the background workers, they didn't want anybody to know that Big had died. So when they were speaking, when the. When the background workers were in the art studio, which is where we filmed that day, right in Chelsea, they would use her. She. And then when all the background workers were released and they turned around and we were seeing all of the cast speaking about Mr. Big, it was at that point that the script changed and Everybody was referencing Mr. Big. And. But they didn't want anybody to know. So the whole day we had to keep it a secret because the background workers, I mean, not background workers, the background artists, were all under the impression that the person who that they were there to memorialize was a woman. I had a line. My line was, am I the only one that remembers what a he was? And the girl that I had to say it to was sitting next to me at the funeral. And I remember after we finished shooting, she said, why did you ask me if he was an. If the person that died was a woman?

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Molly Price]

And I said something like, I didn't write the episode. I don't know. You'd have to ask writers.

[Kristin Davis]

Good.

[Molly Price]

Molly, I'm going to craft service. See you later. Bye. Wow.

[Katherine Townsend]

Wow.

[Kristin Davis]

I had forgotten all this drama in that day. Yeah, it was a big day. What I do remember is they hadn't gotten the montage together yet of Big that we were supposed to be watching on the wall. So we had puppies and stuff. Do you remember this? Were you there for this part?

[Memphis Bleak]

Yes.

[Molly Price]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

There was, like, puppies and kitties and pandas. And at one point, Sarah Jessica never breaks. Like, never, never. Like, not from laughing, not from anything. Do you know what I mean? And she's sitting next to me in the scene, and at one point, they're, you know, they're doing closeup after closeup, and we're watching the puppies and trying to have our feelings. And I think it was just one more angle, and Sarah was just like, ah. Just, like, fell on her knees and put her head in my lap and just started just, like, hysterically laughing, which I had never experienced before in my life. And I did bring that up to her somewhere that we were doing press, and she was like, it was the puppies. The puppies. Cause I had forgotten the crazy. It was like almost like a screensaver montage.

[Molly Price]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

You know?

[Molly Price]

Yeah. They were trying to trick everybody, so they didn't know what was going on because it was such a huge storyline, such a huge reveal.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Molly Price]

It was. It was beautifully done. I mean, a lot of thought went into keeping that a secret. And, you know, I'm impressed that they did.

[Kristin Davis]

Me too.

[Molly Price]

I forgot somebody would have leaked it to some, you know, TMZ would have gotten word or something.

[Kristin Davis]

That's true. I mean, we have this elaborate thing with our scripts as well, which I'm sure they put you through with the watermark, and you have to, like, sign into the thing to get the.

[Molly Price]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, Lordy, have mercy. It's a lot of drama to go.

[Molly Price]

Through, but working for the FBI.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, exactly. It is like working for the FBI, yet in the entertainment world. And what else? Was it weird to come back? Was it fun? Was it strange. I mean.

[Molly Price]

Oh, my God, it was absolutely thrilling because I remember we had the. We had the read through out at what's the beautiful lot out in the Brooklyn Diner yards.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Molly Price]

And it was a long day, and we read, and then, you know, there was, like, lunch and just to see everybody and. And to. And to like, you know, I was on the show twice on Sex and the City, so this was the third time that I was in this, you know, zeitgeist. But it just felt like such a huge honor and a privilege to be a part of the launch of, you know, and just like that, because everyone was so excited to see where everybody was going to be, like, that many years later. And I just remember the read through was so funny, and the show was so different, and yet it was so essentially the same at its core. But everybody, you know, had changed so much, and the world had changed, and it was just remarkable to be there and to sit in that room and just listen to everyone, you know, go back into that world again and witness it, you know, because I was more of a witness than a participant. And it was thrilling. And then the day that we shot it was just thrilling because the costumes and it's always so glamorous. They do the best makeup, they do the best hair. Like, you're just your best self when you. When you're on that show.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Molly Price]

So it was just, you know, it's his. It's television history in terms of your association to that. I mean, you guys really changed the landscape of television. So to be a part of it is just, you know, I've done a lot of things in my life, but no matter where I go, even if I travel, like, out of the country, Susan Sharon is the thing that always. People will recognize me for always. That's so funny.

[Kristin Davis]

That's so great.

[Molly Price]

She's the out of everything I've ever done.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Molly Price]

People are like, are you Susan Sharon? And then I'm like, well, not, you know, really. And then they freak out. I mean, you must know, people freak out. Any association, any affiliation to that show.

[Kristin Davis]

That's lovely.

[Molly Price]

Like, I was with my son on Mother's Day, and I said, oh, I'm gonna go on this podcast and talk to Kristen Davis about Sex in the City. And he goes, Ma, he's 21, right? He's like, mom. No. And I was like, yeah. He's like, mom, my girlfriend, all their friends. Is it a board game? Is there a board game called Are you a Charlotte?

[Kristin Davis]

Not that I'm aware of. I mean, I'm not getting paid for it.

[Molly Price]

All right, well, we should look into this. Have your people.

[Kristin Davis]

Let's look into it, you guys. Oh, my gosh.

[Molly Price]

Board game that all of the girls at his college play. And it's a board game where you. All the characters are in it and you figure. You play the board game to figure out which character from Sex and the City.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Molly Price]

You are the most like.

[Kristin Davis]

I love it. I don't know. I don't know.

[Molly Price]

You're gonna have to call Mattel and find out if you're missing out on.

[Kristin Davis]

I will, I will. I think that the original quiz of like, you know, just which character are you? Right.

[Molly Price]

Okay.

[Kristin Davis]

Is buzzfeed. I want to say. And then when I was going to do the podcast, I went to work. We were working on this last season, and I asked Michael Patrick about it, and then I asked Sarah Jessica about it because I needed to know that they were going to be supportive, you know, before I said yes, sure. And they were super supportive. And I was maybe three sentences in when he said, I have the title. Are you a Charlotte? You know, his right or mind working, you know, right away.

[Molly Price]

That's very generous of him.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Molly Price]

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[Kristin Davis]

I have one more question.

[Molly Price]

Okay.

[Kristin Davis]

Are you a Charlotte?

[Molly Price]

No.

[Kristin Davis]

Tell us what you are.

[Molly Price]

I would think, hands down, Miranda. Yeah, that's the part that I was supposed to audition for that I didn't go to.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God. It makes perfect sense.

[Molly Price]

I was supposed to audition for Miranda and I didn't go to Queens.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Molly Price]

That I would have thought.

[Kristin Davis]

Nah. I mean, you never know. You never know. You would have been great.

[Molly Price]

I would have for sure.

[Kristin Davis]

I love it. Yes. You seem like a Miranda to me as well. Yes.

[Molly Price]

It was well placed.

[Kristin Davis]

We love Miranda. Yes. Have you seen that book? We should all be Mirandas.

[Molly Price]

No.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. It's funny. It's funny. Cause you know how different characters kind of have different heydays or whatever. Like times where people, like, there was a time where Carrie was, you know, everyone loved Carrie. And then there was a time where people wanted to criticize Carrie. And then Miranda was thought of as not being exciting for a while. And then there was a time where everyone was like, no, we should all be Mirandas. Sure. And also Charlotte at one point was thought of as being like the super boring one. And then there was a time when everyone was like, oh, no, Charlotte has had an amazing, you know, trajectory.

[Molly Price]

Oh, she's like a sage.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you. That's so sweet. And I think Samantha maybe has always been celebrated and beloved, I feel like, because of the freedom, you know, the freedom that she encapsulates, you know, and projects into the world for women. But I feel like everyone has had different times where they, you know, rise and fall, which I love, and different times in your life, you'll feel closer to different characters.

[Molly Price]

Yes. And I. And I would think they are very, essentially probably the most quintessential for archetypes, like archetypes of women.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Molly Price]

They do represent all the different, you know, chakras of a woman's, you know, the types of women that exist in the world.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Molly Price]

So it's. It's so well done. It's an orchestra. And it would. Nobody would work without the other one. It's with the synergy. Is really. Is the magic of that show.

[Kristin Davis]

Definitely. Thank you so much. Thank you.

[Molly Price]

Thank you.

[Kristin Davis]

So fun to catch up.

[Molly Price]

It was an honor to be here. Thank you for being here, for letting me be part of it.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, it's my pleasure. Yay.

[Molly Price]

All right.

[Kristin Davis]

All right, we'll see you soon. We'll have to write you back in. Got it. Gotta come back.

[Molly Price]

From your lips to God's ears. Okay.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay. Have a great day, Molly. Bye.

[Molly Price]

Bye.

[Kristin Davis]

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