Bosom Buddies with Sarita Choudhury... (S2 E14 "The F*ck Buddy)

Summary

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Are You A Charlotte? – “Bosom Buddies with Sarita Choudhury... (S2 E14 "The F*ck Buddy")”

Date: September 18, 2025
Host: Kristin Davis
Guest: Sarita Choudhury

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Episode Overview

This episode of "Are You A Charlotte?" dives into Sex and the City Season 2, Episode 14, “The F*ck Buddy,” exploring its relationships, emotional complexity, and the personal resonance of the show with guest Sarita Choudhury (who plays Seema in And Just Like That...). Kristin and Sarita unpack the episode's key moments, reflect on the characters' emotional journeys, and candidly discuss behind-the-scenes experiences and the broader impacts of SATC both on culture and their own lives.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Patterns in Love and Relationships

Timestamp: 04:17 – 06:21

• The podcast opens with Kristin and Sarita reflecting on Carrie’s introspective narration about recurring relationship patterns:
  • Kristin:
    “Were we all just victims of conditioned responses? Doomed to repeat the same unconscious relationship patterns? Were we all in fact just dating the same person over and over again? So depressing.” (04:40)
  • Both agree it’s “so depressing” yet “so good” (04:51–04:53).
  • Sarita notes, “It’s almost like a thought that is pre-therapy. Yeah. And more brilliant. Yes.” (04:53–05:08)
  • Kristin admits, “I’m afraid the answer is probably yes.” (05:08)

2. The Device of Talking to the Camera

05:14 – 05:35

• They discuss the early, now-rare device of talking directly to the camera.
  • Sarita: “It’s like avant-garde, weird theater land, but in dirty New York. So it kind of is cool… It gets better. Compared to first season, I think it’s really better.” (05:21–05:27)

3. Carrie and Her “F*ck Buddy” John (Dean Winters)

05:54 – 08:19

• Kristin and Sarita review Carrie’s attempts at a no-strings-attached relationship:
  • Carrie’s pause before describing herself as “restless” is highlighted as relatable and funny (05:55).
  • There’s amusement at Carrie's date's unglamorous job: “I thought he was a finance guy… Later on we find out he’s, like, a phone… Cell phone salesman.” (06:21–06:31)
  • Both recall “minute-buying” culture of the ‘90s.
  • The awkwardness of both pretending to have other dinner plans:
    • Sarita: “That’s when you know how insecure both are. Because I think… one of you wants a relationship.” (07:02–07:34)
    • Kristin: “That would be me. And that’s why I don’t have a fuck buddy.” (07:34)
    • Sarita: “Me too. That's why I don't. I always think, oh, I'm going to be like the other girls and pretend it's that. But of course, I want him to be my boyfriend.” (07:37)
  • False bravado and the little lies we tell when dating: “Our little lies we tell to protect ourselves in dating.” (07:59)

4. Charlotte’s Double-Booking (Trying to “Be Like a Man”)

08:22 – 10:24

• Kristin admits barely remembering filming Charlotte’s storyline, evidencing the chaos of shooting two episodes at once.
  • She recalls certain clothes better than plot points.
  • Praises the humor in Charlotte’s attempt to double-book dates: “I do love the weird storyline of Charlotte trying to be like a man and trying to double book herself. So great, so funny.” (09:16–09:29)
  • Sarita: “And it looks so modern. They look kind of like… it’s not that they could be right now.” (09:29)
  • They discuss taking (but not literally mimicking) friends' advice, and how Charlotte fails by taking things too literally (10:00–10:21).

5. Accepting “Egg on Your Face” Moments

10:46 – 11:44

• Sarita talks about the comedic necessity of imperfection:
  • “Because it’s comedy, sometimes…there’s a bit of egg on my face. I don’t mind it… If not, there’s no humanity.” (10:46)

6. The Sadness of the Episode – Why “The F*ck Buddy” Hurts

16:39 – 18:36

• They dissect the episode’s pervasive sadness, especially in the Carrie storyline:
  • Kristin: “It’s just the saddest thing in the world. And I feel so bad for him because clearly they don’t know anything about each other other than that they seem to enjoy each other in bed.” (16:48)
  • Sarita: “They’ve got the rules, they’ve got a constructed situation. Then they go out of the constructed situation. It falls apart so quickly.” (17:03)
  • On why the episode surprises with its melancholy:
    • “We are not expecting a one off episode called the ‘Fuck Buddy’ to have such sadness.” (17:52–18:01)
  • Sarita offers, “The law of the universe: Don’t mess with real feelings and don’t invent fake feelings.” (18:28)

7. Miranda’s “Angry Guy” and the Power of Walking Away

18:43 – 20:00

• Kristin recounts Miranda’s subplot:
  • “Now, the one exciting moment of it all is when Miranda leaves the angry guy at the table…” (18:45)
  • They praise Cynthia Nixon’s performance and the important, unexplored question: “Why do I like it so much in sex, but nowhere else?” (19:28)
  • The satisfying moment when Miranda finally stands up and leaves (19:37–20:00).

8. Fans, Family, and Cultural Dialogue

20:45 – 25:45

• Kristin shares how her mom was once uneasy watching her daughter “date like that” on TV (20:46–21:03).
• Both articulate the strangeness of experiencing the show as creators, viewers, and public figures simultaneously:
  • “The difference between the experience of making a show, then the experience of watching that same show that you made, and then hearing other people…discussing it and how completely dissonant it can be.” (21:26)
  • “We can’t watch the show as it is. And because people either love or want to talk about or angry at some issue, they want us available. And I sometimes don’t know what they’re saying because I have not seen the same thing.” (22:41–22:59)
  • Sarita shares the emotional challenge of fielding audience enthusiasm and criticism (25:06–25:22).

9. Vulnerability and Creative Freedom

25:33 – 27:00

• Kristin and Sarita reflect on the necessity of creative vulnerability and the impossibility of controlling audience perception:
  • Kristin: “We can’t control how people perceive things…We have to be able to create. And we have to stay open to be able to create.” (25:33–25:57)
  • Sarita compliments Kristin’s candid approach on the podcast: “You’re being very…like, whatever comes up to your brain is…I love that because it’s the one thing you’re not allowed to do with the show. Cause you don't wanna offend people. You don't. I kind of find that very refreshing.” (26:21–26:40)

10. Global Impact & Personal Connections

27:17 – 28:21

• Sarita shares how watching the show with friends abroad (notably in Spain) reveals its surprising, emotional cross-cultural reach.
  • “It’s an experience to watch this show abroad… And see the love and see the… I was kind of… just hearing the comments, I loved it.” (27:44–28:18)
• They talk about the support and connection among cast members (28:21–29:37).

11. The Real Friendships Among the Cast

35:16 – 39:27

• They acknowledge the bittersweetness of potentially wrapping major seasons and the real bonds formed over the years.
  • Sarita: “You have real friendships between you three, and I think that just sounds like I'm lying. So when I say it's such a… And it's shockingly beautiful.” (38:59–39:28)

12. Behind-the-Scenes Moments: The Eyepatch & Birthday Episode

39:28 – 41:22

• They reminisce about memorable filming experiences, including the eyepatch scene with Logan, filming logistics, and how production support makes challenging scenes better.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Dating Patterns:

  • “Were we all just victims of conditioned responses? Doomed to repeat the same unconscious relationship patterns?...So depressing.”
    — Kristen Davis (04:40)

• On Pretending Not to Care:

  • “I think the problem is, when you have someone you call just for sex, you are always checking to see: but are they in love with me? I think the truth of it is one of you wants a relationship.”
    — Sarita Choudhury (07:17)

• On Fans’ Perceptions:

  • “She's watching a show that I'm not watching.”
    — Sarita Choudhury (22:27)

• On Creative Vulnerability:

  • “We can’t control how people perceive things…We have to be able to create. And we have to stay open to be able to create.”
    — Kristen Davis (25:33–25:57)

• On Real-Life Friendships in the Cast:

  • “You have real friendships between you three… and it’s shockingly beautiful.”
    — Sarita Choudhury (38:59–39:28)

• On Accepting Imperfection:

  • “The egg on the face is integral. Integral needed. Yeah, definitely. And sometimes they write it, but then sometimes it's just there.”
    — Kristin Davis (11:19)

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Noteworthy Segments and Timestamps

• Carrie’s Dating Patterns Introspection: 04:17–05:13
• Carrie’s F*ck Buddy Mishaps: 06:21–08:19
• Charlotte’s Double Date Antics: 08:22–10:24
• Miranda’s Angry Guy & Standing Up for Herself: 18:43–20:00
• Fans and the Surreal Experience of Fame: 21:26–25:45
• On Creative Fear and Freedom: 25:33–27:00
• Global SATC Love: 27:17–28:21
• Real-Life Friendships: 35:16–39:27
• Logan, the Eyepatch, and Birthday Episode Nostalgia: 39:28–41:22
• “Are You a Charlotte?” Game: 41:44–42:39

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Final Reflections & Theme

The episode explored the emotional reality behind “no-strings” relationships, highlighted the personal stakes and vulnerabilities of both fictional characters and the actors who portray them, and celebrated the enduring connection among the cast and the global SATC fan community. Sarita closed out the episode with self-recognition:

• “I never thought I was (a Charlotte), but I feel like I might be. …I am.” (41:44–42:00)

Kristin summed up their bond:

• “You’re such, like, heart, you know, you’re so open and leading with the heart in terms of, like, your actual life.” (42:00–42:17)

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A heartfelt, humorous, and genuine conversation that bridges the gap between life, fiction, and the ongoing power of Sex and the City in shaping cultural and personal narratives.

Transcript

[Sarita Choudhury]

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[Kristen Davis]

Hi, I'm Kristen Davis and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Welcome back, everybody, to are you a Charlotte? Part 2. Thanks for joining us. Here we go. So Kerry's at home and she's, she's, she's. This is what I find depressing. So she says. I wondered, were we all just victims of conditional conditioned responses? Doomed to repeat the same unconscious relationship patterns? Were we all in fact just dating the same person over and over again? So depressing.

[Sarita Choudhury]

So depressing.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, but so good.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Also so good. So good. It's almost like a thought that is pre therapy. Yeah. And more brilliant. Yeah. Do you know? Yes.

[Kristen Davis]

And I'm afraid the answer is probably yes.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yes.

[Kristen Davis]

But then, and then we show we still have some people talking to the camera, which is also funny.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Which.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

It's like avant garde, weird theater land.

[Kristen Davis]

Totally.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But in dirty New York. So it kind of is cool.

[Kristen Davis]

Totally. Totally. And it gets better. Like, compared to first season, I think it's really better.

[Sarita Choudhury]

So much better. And it's a great device used well. But it's funny at the beginning.

[Kristen Davis]

It is really funny. Yeah. You're like, oh, my God, we're back to this. Okay. And then we see poor Samantha, who's in her very red bedroom. Golden red, hearing the people having the sex through the wall, which I was just like, oh, this is depressing me. This is depressing me. That's how I felt. Then Carrie says that she's feeling, quote, restless.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yes.

[Kristen Davis]

Which made me laugh because she pauses ever so slightly before she says the word restless. You're like, oh yes, I know what she's saying. And then she calls Dean Winters character. Yeah, we're just going to call him Dean Winters. Yes, his name is John, which is kind of funny, but we'll ignore that. And, and she says something like, you know, can you come, come over or no, we're going to have drinks after work at 6:30.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Which is interesting. And he's like, seems like a very together. Like he said. I thought he was a finance guy. Later on we find out he's like a phone. Cell phone salesman.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah. Which that was shocking.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah. You're like, you have to really go back in your mind. Like what is he actually talking about? Time. You're buying time. But remember back in the day where like you didn't want to use your minutes.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Oh, always.

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Right.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh no, right. You used your minutes.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I put in $50 a week ago.

[Kristen Davis]

That's what he did. That's what he did. I thought he was like a stupid stock sales when you first meet him.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah, right. And then it becomes a bit sadder.

[Kristen Davis]

Then it becomes a bit sadder when he doesn't like sushi too much.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I remember when he walks. Am I jumping ahead for the question?

[Kristen Davis]

You are, but I don't care.

[Sarita Choudhury]

He walks into the door into her apartment and you know what broke my heart? He was like something about, well, I have a dinner plans at 8. And she's like, oh no, so do I. And that's when you know how insecure both are. Because I think the problem is when you have someone you call just for sex, you are always checking to see. But are they in love with me? I think the truth of it is one of you wants a relationship.

[Kristen Davis]

See, that would be me. And that's why I don't have a fuck buddy.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Me too. That's why I don't. Because I always think, oh, I'm going to be like the other girls and pretend it's that. But of course I want him to be my boyfriend.

[Kristen Davis]

Right. When I look bad that you don't.

[Sarita Choudhury]

You don't exactly.

[Kristen Davis]

But it's too hard in the moment. Like I'm just can't. I just can't turn off the other things.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But I knew she was lying when she's like, oh yeah, no, I have.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

There was something in it. I was like, oh, that's so tenuous. Our little lies we tell to protect ourselves in dating.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh God, yeah, I know it was sad, but I also felt like, well, at least they're on the same page. I kind of Thought you're right. Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

You're right.

[Kristen Davis]

Because we know Carrie's not in love with him. No. Even though she's going to give it.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Her best effort, there's something even about it. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Which I liked. But then of course they mess it up, which was sad. So anyway, then we go. This was the weirdest storyline for me, for Charlotte. Because first of all, I remember nothing. Nothing of the any of this. Sometimes I'm like, I don't know what I'm gonna do when I'm watching. I'm like, I don't remember this. I don't know what I'm gonna do. Am I gonna have sex with these guys? I have no idea.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Is it cause it every day and.

[Kristen Davis]

Cause we're shooting twice, two at once, as you know. Right. And I mean, there are certain clothes that I remember. Like I have. There's a cream colored dress. I have it still in my closet. Sometimes I look at it and I think, like, when did I wear that? I don't know. I wore it in this episode. And there's a green sweater that I recognize and I have a picture of Cynthia and I like a continuity type picture, Polaroid from that restaurant scene. And I don't look happy. I don't look happy. So I think it was some stress going on in my life and lack of sleep, you know what I'm saying? So definitely the hours you guys did back then, totally bonkers. Totally bonkers. But I do love the weird storyline of Charlotte trying to be like a man and trying to double book herself. So great, so funny.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And it looks so modern. They look kind of like it's not that they could be right now.

[Kristen Davis]

Like there's something definitely.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I love that.

[Kristen Davis]

I loved it too. I was worried that I was gonna try to have sex with them. I was like, has Charlotte lost her mind? No, I know, but no, she hadn't. She was just trying to date them. But then of course it blows up in her face immediately, which is so perfect. So perfect. And the one guy with the floppy hair seems like he could have been a nice guy for Charlotte, but she's now ruined it trying to take her girlfriend's advice. You know what I mean?

[Sarita Choudhury]

So this morning I was thinking about that. I was like, wow, she took her girlfriend's advice and this happened. And then I was thinking, we need our girlfriend's advice. Cause it propels us. But the problem is we don't need to do the exact advice. I think we need to head somewhere.

[Kristen Davis]

I think we need to like take it in and filter it a bit.

[Sarita Choudhury]

In your yoga outfit. Like, oh, do you want to have dinner? I love that.

[Kristen Davis]

That was true.

[Sarita Choudhury]

That gave me hope. And I was like, oh, but then when you had to leave and I was like, oh, God, that's not Charlotte.

[Kristen Davis]

No. And I obviously made a choice to kind of that it wasn't Charlotte. You know what I'm saying?

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yes, exactly.

[Kristen Davis]

It's funny to watch your acting too. I'm like, oh, yeah, that is such a cute little fake scratchy throat I'm doing there. But that's okay. But the most.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I love that kind of attitude. I do. Because. Because there's something about this show that sometimes there's so much you have to do and then sometimes you literally. They're losing the light. And like any show, it's not unique in that sense, but because it's comedy, sometimes I find myself even playing Seema. There's a bit of egg on my face. I don't mind it because I realized for the pace of this show, you can't hit everything perfectly. If not, there's no humanity. So I almost like when I see something that you just said.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, I think the egg on the face is integral. Integral needed. Yeah, definitely. And sometimes they write it, but then sometimes it's just there.

[Sarita Choudhury]

No, sometimes in group scenes, it's always there because of timing and very hard. And they're very hard and I'm learning to like them.

[Kristen Davis]

I'm glad.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah. Egg on faith.

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[Kristen Davis]

Okay, so let's go back to the Carrie and John Dean Winters relationship. When they go on the date.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

It's just the saddest thing in the world. And I feel so bad for him because clearly they don't know anything about each other.

[Sarita Choudhury]

No.

[Kristen Davis]

Other than that they seem to enjoy each other in bed, you know, which is something.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And they know how to behave.

[Kristen Davis]

Right. They've got the rules, they've got a constructed situation. Then they go out of the constructed situation. It falls apart so quickly.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I mean, it almost looks like he's never been to a restaurant with I.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, he wants a burger and he doesn't like sushi. I'm like, dude, you need to pretend to like sushi with Carrie. I know, it's sad.

[Sarita Choudhury]

No, it's so sad. That episode. You're right. I don't think any of the episodes had that feeling for me where I was like, I don't know what to do.

[Kristen Davis]

I know.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But it could be because you and I don't relate as much to this dilemma.

[Kristen Davis]

Maybe. Right. But I also think, I also think, I think it's because I think theoretically, like, structurally, we know, for instance, that the big Carrie relationship is gonna have highs and lows and all of the different things and sadness.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Right. Yes.

[Kristen Davis]

And we expect that. Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

You're right.

[Kristen Davis]

But when we're outside of that, we are not expecting kind of a one off episode called the Fuck Buddy to have such sadness.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

I still am.

[Sarita Choudhury]

So.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Because we expect that thing with Carrie's character and her arc, but it's like she was shocked.

[Kristen Davis]

Totally. It was like, she thinks it's all gonna work out.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah. And also because it's not. She's in love with him. It didn't have to go that far to work out. And he couldn't even get there.

[Kristen Davis]

No. I know. That's what's so sad. It's not even like we're expecting miracles. We're just expecting A dinner to go well and not.

[Sarita Choudhury]

It's like, the law of the universe. Don't mess with real feelings and don't invent fake feelings.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes. Don't try to put, like, a square peg in round hole or whatever that phrase is. It's gonna go wrong, Right? It's so true. It's so true.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Now, the one exciting moment of it all is when Miranda leaves the angry guy at the table. Do you remember? He's like. So he's trying to get. He's angry about literally everything. Like, at one point, she's trying to hail a cab, and he's like, you can't hail a cab on that side of the corner. And she's like, no, no, I have. And then he hails a cab, and then he kind of pushes her in the cab.

[Sarita Choudhury]

No, I know.

[Kristen Davis]

And then she's like, but I like it when he pushes me around in sex. Which, I mean, this is, like, such a big issue. We could have a whole episode. Totally.

[Sarita Choudhury]

The only. Thank God it's Cynthia doing it.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Because there's something about Cynthia that's just like, whatever. And then other times, she's like, no. And both of those qualities in her.

[Kristen Davis]

Could handle this 100%. You're not worried for her at all. You're not worried for her at all. And she's kind of like, why do I. I like it so much in sex, but nowhere else. Which is a good question. It's not really ever answered, but it's a good question to just leave out there. And so luckily, she says, you know, he's gonna find out if he makes partner. And then I'm sure he's gonna lighten up. So then he finds out he makes partner, and he's just bitching and moaning and bitching and moaning about, you know, hours, and she doesn't get the pressure on him and whatever. And then she just gets up and leaves. And it's super exciting and satisfying.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Super exciting. And it would. Do you know what it was? That even that relationship, it was like, wait, how did it get to that point? How did Miranda think that he was gonna change getting. Without seeing it? It was frustrating. It was frustrating just to go on that journey.

[Kristen Davis]

I agree. And that's why the episode's kind of sad. You know what I mean? That's why the episode, sadly, because, really, nothing works out that great. Poor Samantha tries to break down the wall between her and her neighbors, and it doesn't go well. Like, it's just sad all the way around.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And that even with Samantha, she'll take any sad situation and make it still like a bit of a hip thrust and she can't.

[Kristen Davis]

No.

[Sarita Choudhury]

So that's why it's sad.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah. This reminds me of my mom at the time that we were doing the show. In the beginning, she was really mixed feelings about the show and it makes so much sense now. I mean, at the time I was just like, oh, mom, it's fine.

[Sarita Choudhury]

You know what I mean?

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, no.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But Kristin.

[Kristen Davis]

Right, but she was like, well, I just don't want to think that this is what, you know, dating is like for you. And I was like, it's not, you know, which in reality it kind of was. But I mean, not to this level, obviously.

[Sarita Choudhury]

No. And also, your mom is watching the show with the lighting and with everything. You weren't. You were doing the show and watching. So she was really seeing the whole New York.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes, yes. Not her world at all. And this reminds me of something that we wanted to talk about, which is the difference between the experience of making a show, then the experience of watching that same show that you made, and then hearing other people who were not part of the show discussing it and how completely dissonant it can be.

[Sarita Choudhury]

It is. You know, I never wanna come off as the. You know, when you're an actress, you think you get better at understanding this. Right? But I don't. This show, because it's such a cultural phenomenon, so people join in without you being in a discussion. The discussion begins.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Sarita Choudhury]

So I'm learning this only in this show. But I think what's wild is the other day I was doing an interview and I, I think that's when it really hit me. I was like, oh, she's watching a show that I'm not watching.

[Kristen Davis]

Yep.

[Sarita Choudhury]

It just hit me finally. I've understood variations of that thought, but there's no way, when you do a read through that's in your head when you watch the show, the edits are like, oh, they chose that.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

We can't watch the show as it is. And because people either love or want to talk about or angry at some issue, they want us available. And I sometimes don't know what they're saying because I have not seen the same thing.

[Kristen Davis]

Definitely. Sometimes I don't know what they're saying either. Yeah, I'm just like, what?

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah, what?

[Kristen Davis]

Like, you know. And you'd think I'd be used to it after all this time, but I'm not.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But that's what always tell me about you. You've often said something that I'm like, oh, she's not used to it yet. Which kind of makes me happy that it hasn't. That you've kept this human. Kind of like, okay, what is this?

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But also, it just shows maybe we're not supposed to be good at it. Like.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

You know, and sometimes I feel bad because, like, someone will ask me something and they have so much excitement.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And I don't know what they're asking.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Well.

[Kristen Davis]

Well, I think somehow we're supposed to be experts about their experience.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But, yes.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, I do feel like we're experts about what we've made, which people seem to sometimes doubt, which is really interesting.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Right. Because, I mean, like, it should be easy.

[Kristen Davis]

Right?

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Which obviously it's not easy at all. But also, like, we're in it. I can't be objective.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Exactly. Also, we're insecure. We barely pulled it off. Yeah. So then when we're being asked about whether or not a bad thing.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

That was take number 17. And I. Oh, I'm so glad I'm not embarrassed by it. Like, you know, there's thoughts we have that are different.

[Kristen Davis]

And I also think. I think that. I think that we're in a crazy time, you know, culturally, in terms of the dialogue, or lack thereof, of true dialogue, maybe, like that there's, like, people are very, very black and white about things, you know, in terms of, like. I hated that. I love that. I hated that. I love that there's not actual conversations sometimes.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah. And it happens with us. Like, sometimes I'm in a conversation, even with a friend, and they'll bring up something that they want to talk about that isn't even in my scenes.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And I'm not sure why they're asking me.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But they care so much.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And so I'm learning anyway. I'm learning because I never want. I'm always scared of coming off a bit like an asshole about my body. No, no, no. Because when it happens, people don't realize we get hurt.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Like, I first get hurt.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Then I go, they don't mean it that way.

[Kristen Davis]

They don't mean it.

[Sarita Choudhury]

So then I try to understand it, but that takes time. And they're just, like, looking at me with this Weir brush.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

So.

[Kristen Davis]

But this is the thing. This is the thing that I. That I come back to. I mean, number one, we can't control how people perceive things. Right. We just can't. We just can't.

[Sarita Choudhury]

You have.

[Kristen Davis]

It's like a. It's like a 12 step type of a situation. Right. Like, you have to admit, like, I cannot control that. Second of all, we have to be able to create.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

And we have to stay open to be able to create.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

And that's not easy ever. And definitely not right now in time in our culture. So there's some protection that you need to create for yourself. And partly because of the podcast, I'm more out in the world of the conversation that I would normally be because I'm trying to kind of figure it out more and use it.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I love that you're being. How do I say this? You're being very. Like, whatever comes up to your brain is. I love that because it's the one thing you're not allowed to do with the show. Cause you don't wanna offend people. You don't. I kind of find that very refreshing.

[Kristen Davis]

Thank you. It's scary.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I bet it's scary. No, I bet it's scary because we mess up with people's names and.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But look at the love. Even when we're talking about something that we're like, whoa, I still love it.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I'm not gonna talk about it. Right, Right. I mean, your British accent just came out.

[Kristen Davis]

I know. I love how your accent comes and.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Goes so much when I'm a bit jet lagged. When I'm tired, like, a full two words will come out and it's like a fish coming out of my mouth.

[Kristen Davis]

That I'm just like, no, all of it's good. All of it's good. This is what I love so much about you. Like, you could talk to Sarita about so many different countries that she's actually lived in. Like, it is.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Well, can I say one thing? Talking about countries. So I just came back and my friend Lorena is addicted to the show. Okay. Both the old and the new. And it's so sweet because when we're there, it airs Friday nights here airs Thursday. And every Friday we'd be at the beach and doing our thing and she'd be like, no, Sarita. We go, it's dropping. It's dropping now. And I was like, definitely. And she knows me so well. She goes, I know you're not as excited as me. And I was like, no, I may be more excited than you. And she goes, okay. I know. It's drama in head with the actors. I don't know. Okay, we're gonna go. And I watch Lorena watch the show, and it's like watching Spanish. Watch our show. Getting it. Getting it in a. I don't know it's an experience to watch this show abroad. Absolutely. And see the love and see the. I was kind of. And just hearing the comments, I loved it.

[Kristen Davis]

That's so nice. Yeah, it's so nice to hear.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah, it is.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, we just have to do it and let it go out there and it's gonna do what it's gonna do. Right. And sometimes it's hard to remember that because obviously there's a lot coming at us, you know, but then I think that's also why, you know, we're together and we can be together in it all.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah, Right. That's how I felt coming here today. I was like, oh, I needed this and I haven't had this. We've done a lot of press. And I was like, even I can feel it now. Like, I don't even know. Usually I'm aware of my hair or my face or my. I don't.

[Kristen Davis]

I'm not really aware. Like, part of me thinks when I.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Watch it, it's gonna be like. But. But that's so rare, right. When you're in conversation on camera. Right.

[Kristen Davis]

Well, because this is what I love about podcasting, is that I wanted to have the flow.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Right. And the only way to have the flow is to just go where it goes. So sometimes I apologize, sweet listeners, if I did not recap enough for you. Some people want more recap, some people want less recap. Right. But like, for me, the joy of.

[Sarita Choudhury]

This is being in it.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah. With whomever has come to be with me.

[Sarita Choudhury]

No, I can't even remember what I thought we might talk about because I'm literally just following you, which is great.

[Kristen Davis]

It's a joy.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I love it.

[Kristen Davis]

Me too. I love it, too. And I love having you.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I love having you.

[Kristen Davis]

And I need to.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I love having you. I'm not having you. You're having me.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But boas, I love being here.

[Kristen Davis]

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[Kristen Davis]

I'm just gonna briefly touch on the fact that unfortunately, as far as we know, we do not get to go and be together for 18 hours a day.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I know.

[Kristen Davis]

Still sinking in.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Still sinking in.

[Kristen Davis]

Not 100% there.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Totally.

[Kristen Davis]

So sad.

[Sarita Choudhury]

So sad and so beautiful. You're almost saying it in the way I feel it. Not real words are coming out yet, right? It's true.

[Kristen Davis]

It's true. But also, I have been through this before where we're saying goodbye, but then we don't ever really say goodbye. And for me, we all are so alive in me. You know what I'm saying?

[Sarita Choudhury]

That's so beautiful. Crystal, don't you feel? I feel like also this is. It's so diff. My feelings are one and then there's yours, which is the first, and then a different iteration. And it's a lot. But I love what you just said, which is often when you think it's an end, it's not. Whatever that means, right?

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And that just made me understand something right now. But. But I'm glad when you left that message for Nicole that didn't go. Yeah. That it allowed you to Cry?

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Because sometimes don't you find it's when someone answers the phone that that's when you cry?

[Kristen Davis]

Yes. So maybe there's some kind of a trigger or something. And I think also because Nicole and I, you know, when she began the show was like when I had to cry for weeks with her, you know, so that cause of Beg's death. Right. Do you remember this? Yes.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Yes.

[Kristen Davis]

That was how we began our relationship. So I think there's also, like, this established freedom that I have with her to share those kind of deeper things. Right. And also I was just trying to check in on her. So then I was sad that she didn't get the message. Because I was trying to check in on her, though my feelings, like, poured out in the world.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I mean, now she knows it fully. Nicole.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes, yes, yes, yes.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But I think also it's interesting. Cause you had left me something and that just like just seeing your name. And then Cynthia did and then Sarah Jessica. And it was interesting because it allowed me. When I heard Sarah Jeska's. I was. It just allowed me to let it go. And also just think of you guys, because you. I don't even know how this was able to happen and how amazing it is.

[Kristen Davis]

It really is.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And you brought us on, which is so beautiful. But, yeah, I keep thinking of you guys and I keep thinking, oh, they must have so many different emotions, different days. And it's gonna take a long time for you to form a sentence.

[Kristen Davis]

For sure, for sure, for sure.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But it's nice. This is my first public.

[Kristen Davis]

You're doing great sentence with you.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Which is what A great place to do it.

[Kristen Davis]

I know it's a great place to do it because we're free and we're just ourselves. And there's no lens of any other, you know, journalist or whatever here. Obviously, it's just us. And I also think it's gonna continue to evolve. And I mean, I'm just so grateful that we were able to do the show we wanted to do.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Oh, Crystal.

[Kristen Davis]

And to bring you guys on, such incredible bright lights for us, like, inspiration for us, grounding for us. It was. I mean, obviously we love each other, but we love you guys, too, so much.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But, you know, and that's not a given.

[Kristen Davis]

Right?

[Sarita Choudhury]

I think when people don't. When people ask me about you or. And obviously I'm not gonna. I don't talk much about it, but. But the one thing I think that shocks them is when I'm like, they're really regular gals who are hardworking Actresses.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Like they're actors.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah. But really regular, right?

[Sarita Choudhury]

Really regular.

[Kristen Davis]

I know. It's funny.

[Sarita Choudhury]

You have real friendships between you three, and I think that just sounds like I'm lying. So when I say it's such a.

[Kristen Davis]

Cynicism, I think, sure. Yeah.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And wouldn't it be fun the story was the opposite.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarita Choudhury]

So then when I say when they're like, how is it for you and for Nicole? And I say a similar thing, they must just be like, ah, she's a liar. She's just lying. And I'm like, I know you think. I'm like, but it really is true.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And it's shockingly beautiful.

[Kristen Davis]

I just want to say one thing. The eyepatch, I mean, it was funny in person, but, like, when I watched my birthday episode and Logan singing. And your reaction to Logan singing in the Eyepatch was so incredibly satisfying. Oh, and then to watch you guys make out in the cab, I was.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Thrilled with the eyepatch.

[Kristen Davis]

Thrilled. And the shot through the window.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Okay. That shot. Do you know how long I spent in that cab?

[Kristen Davis]

I can imagine.

[Sarita Choudhury]

But you know what comforted me the next day? Cause, like, I had the eye patch and the angle had to be right. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

It was cool.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And it was over and over. But do you know what was interesting? Gary from the crib. Yeah, Gary, he said, we got a good shot of you for that. And I go, did you? Because the bright lights of the city.

[Kristen Davis]

When I saw that angle, it was great.

[Sarita Choudhury]

It made me give in to when. Whenever I. Whatever I do next is just to accept when they say it.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah. Because when you're doing it, you don't feel. I agree.

[Sarita Choudhury]

You've got, like, stuff.

[Kristen Davis]

Totally.

[Sarita Choudhury]

You're trying to hold in your stomach.

[Kristen Davis]

Totally. All of it.

[Commercial Announcer]

Barely.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And then you see it and you're like, they got your back.

[Kristen Davis]

It was fantastic. And I mean, Gary always has our back. Number one. Number two, it was so reminiscent of the old show. It was right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Wow.

[Kristen Davis]

Like, high five.

[Sarita Choudhury]

You're so right.

[Kristen Davis]

Big time, baby. It was awesome. I mean, so many of your things are awesome. But it just came to my mind because at the time, of course, we shot the birthday party for like, three.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Weeks, three weeks, four weeks. I never even saw you there half the time because we shot individually.

[Kristen Davis]

I know, I know.

[Sarita Choudhury]

What a great episode. Babe.

[Kristen Davis]

I'm not.

[Sarita Choudhury]

That was a great episode. And you about.

[Kristen Davis]

But, like, your stuff was hard. It was hard.

[Sarita Choudhury]

It was made easier because Logan's actually very present. He's so a great.

[Kristen Davis]

He's so. Good one. He sings that song. People thought he was fake singing that. That was someone else singing, like. No, that's him.

[Sarita Choudhury]

That's him.

[Kristen Davis]

He's incredible.

[Sarita Choudhury]

He's incredible.

[Commercial Announcer]

I know.

[Kristen Davis]

I want him to be on the show, too. He can be catching up with friends. Logan calling. Logan. Marshall Green, we need you. All right. We could keep going. We could keep going. You can come back, baby.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I love you.

[Kristen Davis]

Please. I love you. Thank you for being here. She remembered. Thank God. So, Sarita, are you a Charlotte?

[Sarita Choudhury]

I never thought I was, but I feel like I might be.

[Kristen Davis]

I think you are.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I think I am.

[Kristen Davis]

I think you are. But you can be part Charlotte, part others, which I think you are.

[Sarita Choudhury]

Probably, Definitely. But I just want to say I am.

[Kristen Davis]

I love it. I love it. I love it. And I think you are because, like, as worldly and kind of sophisticated as you are, you're such, like, heart, you know, you're so open and leading with the heart in terms of, like, your actual life.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And I think there are certain, like, rules and what may look like prudish behavior that just come from protecting yourself and also religion and countries and nature that make you feel you're not as wild as people think you are.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Sarita Choudhury]

And, you know, I do know.

[Kristen Davis]

I really, really know. I love you so much.

[Sarita Choudhury]

I love you so much.

[Kristen Davis]

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[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Kristen Davis]

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