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Kristin Davis
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Hi, I'm Kristen Davis and I want to know, are you a Charlotte?
We are back with Are you a Charlotte? Continue with the fantastic Kyle McLaughlin.
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, having so much fun. Thank you. I'm really enjoying this. You are a great host.
Kristin Davis
Well, you're so sweet. You're a great guest of course. And I can't wait to listen to your podcast.
Kyle MacLachlan
Ah, thank you. Thank you.
Kristin Davis
What are we even doing?
Kyle MacLachlan
What are we even doing?
Kristin Davis
What are we even doing?
Kyle MacLachlan
I know. And you can say a number of different ways.
Kristin Davis
I know. I like that.
Kyle MacLachlan
Are we even doing. What are we even doing?
Kristin Davis
Yeah. It depends on the moment.
Kyle MacLachlan
Depends on the day.
Kristin Davis
Yeah. I like it. I like it.
Kyle MacLachlan
Cool.
Kristin Davis
What I didn't get to in my rewatch of last night was when we go to Connecticut, which I don't even know if we really go to Connecticut. I think it's Bunny's house.
Kyle MacLachlan
Okay.
Kristin Davis
And we play tennis, which I have a lot of photographs in my possession of us playing tennis.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
I don't know why. We must have had to take, like, prop photos.
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, I remember the tennis one sort of towards the end. Right.
Kristin Davis
It must be. I don't know. I didn't get that far. But, like, I make out with the gardener, apparently, which I thought was a dream, but apparently it's real.
Kyle MacLachlan
No.
Kristin Davis
So you see, I don't remember everything accurately. Do you know what I mean? Like, what was Charlotte doing? Is it because we're not having sex? I don't know. I haven't gotten to that part. Anyone know? Yes. Okay. I think that's why.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
But, I mean, that's so sad.
Kyle MacLachlan
So you blanked it out. That's okay.
Kristin Davis
I did. I did. I blanked it out. I blanked out.
Kyle MacLachlan
I remember. I remember. I remember this. The tennis court. I mean, it was the same. Same sequence there. The ninth shot.
Kristin Davis
Yes.
Kyle MacLachlan
And I. And I had gone out because I was frustrated. I was frustrated myself. I was angry at myself, and I couldn't do what I was supposed to do. And they had me out. And I was out the tennis court, and I remembered I. I took tennis lessons there at Central Park. There was a wonderful facility there. I didn't play tennis. I was like, o. I got to look like I know what I'm doing and. Which I really didn't.
Kristin Davis
But, you know, I've been through this so many times now with Charlie. Yes.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yes. And I was there. And I remember it was kind of. It was a warm night, and I was hitting balls, and the. The. The. The makeup ladies came over, and they were like, you need to be a little sweatier. And I was like, okay. And they started taking baby oil and rubbing it on my chest, and I was like, that's the one right there. Look it. That's it. Oh, my God. And I was like. I said, I think this is a little. I think it's a little too. I was like, and they were like, no. They would join me. No, no. And they were like, doing this. I was like, look at you.
Kristin Davis
Oh, my God.
Kyle MacLachlan
That was a young man right there.
Kristin Davis
That's incredible.
Kyle MacLachlan
And I was just like. I said, okay. I said, all right, that's fine. Whatever.
Kristin Davis
I'm sure all of the guys and all of the girls on set were having a great time.
Kyle MacLachlan
Very like, I know.
Kristin Davis
Why do I go hang out with a gardener? Why don't I just try harder?
Kyle MacLachlan
Trey just, you know, it's the whole thing. He's looks good on the outside, but the inside, it's just not working.
Kristin Davis
It's sad. It's so, so sad. It's so funny, though, because I. It. I only remember some of it. It's interesting.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. There are a few moments that, like, I remember. I remember the. The scene in the bathtub.
With. When you're in the bath. Yeah, I'm in the bathtub, and Franny is sitting on the toilet smoking.
Kristin Davis
It's not today.
Kyle MacLachlan
You know, I mean, it's good, but.
Kristin Davis
It'S not good for Charlotte.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. And you kind of poke your head in. It's like, what the hell is going on? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kristin Davis
I had forgotten that.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. But I immediately recognized. I said, this is the entire relationship in one scene, in one visual.
Kristin Davis
Yeah.
Kyle MacLachlan
I said, it's perfect.
Kristin Davis
That's true. That's right.
Kyle MacLachlan
And I think that we had. And I said, no, give me a washcloth. And I'm going to be washing.
Not just soaking. I'm actually washing my leg. And we're chatting like everything is totally fine. And I said, this is a brilliant moment. And the other one that I loved, which you probably remember, is when we're shopping for a bed.
Kristin Davis
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Kyle MacLachlan
And it's the three of us on the bed.
Kristin Davis
That's good.
Kyle MacLachlan
Just again, I'm like, there it is.
Kristin Davis
That's a good, good visual. It's a good visual. I'll tell you what I remember because I thought that it was very hard, and I was very scared to do it. And it might have been Charles also. And the other thing I want to say about Charles before we move on, because I was watching them in order, right. Like, I watched more than I would normally watch last night. And so when you switch from one director to the next, you're like, oh, when it's someone new, right. And they put in. And he would film us even in the intimate scene, on a longer lens. And it's so cinematic. And that's when Carrie's having the affair with Big Behind Aidan's back. And it's so beautifully filmed. And she's so great. I mean, everyone's so good. It's so nice to see.
Kyle MacLachlan
He's a really good visualist, too. And a good director. I mean, he's a good director.
Kristin Davis
Such a good director. But then what I remember with us is when. So you in Bergdorf, you hand me. I say, oh, did you do your list for the party? And you hand me your list. And behind the list for the engagement party is the prenup. And I'm like, trey in the middle of Bergdorf. What is this?
Kyle MacLachlan
I forgot about that.
Kristin Davis
Yeah. And you're like, oh, it's nothing. Everyone in the family does it. You know, you're very.
Kyle MacLachlan
You're just part of the thing.
Kristin Davis
You blow everything off. And so I go to the girls, and I'm like, can you believe this? And I've got Miranda looking at you, say, oh, just have your lawyer look at it. Like, I have a lawyer. Right. Well, luckily, Miranda's a lawyer. So I take it to Miranda, and she's like, oh, well, this is interesting. You know, it's normal. People do this. Like, I would do this if I were getting married. And then she gets to the part where it's like, I get extra money if I have a boy child, but I get no money if I have a girl child. And I'm like, what on earth? And I mean, rewatching. I didn't remember any of this. And I was like, that is weird.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. The writers are so brilliant. That was right?
Kristin Davis
I mean, really brilliant. But then what I didn't get to last night, but I know is good. The party I go to and negotiate with Franny. With Bunny. Yes.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yes.
Kristin Davis
And that's when I say I'm worth a million.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
Remember being so petrified because it was one of those shots where they set the shot up and it's like a super close up, and, you know, it's a super close up, and it's kind of like someone's, like, choking you. Like, the pressure.
Kyle MacLachlan
You gotta be good. Yeah.
Kristin Davis
And they keep trying to explain to me how I feel. And I remember Jenny's trying to explain to me how I feel, and Charles is trying to tell me what to do, like, how to do it or whatever. And I'm. They just want me to, like, embody, like, I'm worth a million or whatever. But, like, what does that mean? Yeah, Like, I was struggling. Like, what does that mean?
Kyle MacLachlan
Well, that's perfect, actually. That you brought all that into it is it perfect. Because that would. That would be Charlotte, you know.
Kristin Davis
Thanks, Kyle.
Kyle MacLachlan
She wouldn't come in? No, she wouldn't suddenly come in, like, hard, hard. You know what I mean? That's not who she is. So everything that you're going through was perfect.
Kristin Davis
Thank you, Kyle.
Kyle MacLachlan
Perfect. And she direct. No, no, no.
Kristin Davis
You're so smart.
Kyle MacLachlan
I'm not good with people. No, I'm just kidding.
Kristin Davis
Are you insane? You're so good with people.
Kyle MacLachlan
Well, thank you. What about. What about moving on? What about the whole. Remember the whole wedding thing that we did?
Kristin Davis
Oh, my God, yes. Insanity.
Kyle MacLachlan
And my favorite moment of all, that was the gentleman who played.
Kim's paramore in that moment.
Kristin Davis
Was it Richard? Is she with Richard, by the way?
Kyle MacLachlan
Scottish accent. Do you remember him?
Kristin Davis
Oh, wait, what's that guy's name?
Kyle MacLachlan
I wanna say.
And I was like.
And you'd make out a word every now and then. And I said years later, when I was playing golf in Scotland, I have a Scottish coach. And I said, oh, my God. I said, it's the same accent. Wow. I can't understand a word. He's from. He's from the far north of Scotland. And he would say to me, and.
Kristin Davis
I'd be like, that's good.
Kyle MacLachlan
Excuse me. And I would sit for a minute kind of there, and I'd be like. Like thinking, like, I knew it. Like, listening to his comments. And I'd be like, I'm just trying to figure out what the hell he said. I can't figure it out. And then I would. Then I would go, oh, okay, I think I got it. You know what I mean? And then I would say, oh, okay. Then he'd say something else. And I'd have to take a minute to think about and, like, replay it in your head. Yeah. I just loved. He was so fun.
Kristin Davis
That's funny. I didn't remember him at all. Who was it? Wow. I don't remember him. But I mean, good that they brought a Scottish to wear the kilt and whatnot.
Kyle MacLachlan
I don't even know if he was truly Scottish or not. He just was something crazy.
Kristin Davis
Oh, my God.
Kyle MacLachlan
But he was. He was truly wonderful. That was a whole. Really fun. That was a beautiful set. I remember.
Kristin Davis
So incredible.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. Yeah. It was pretty cool.
Kristin Davis
So beautiful. And such, like, we joke about it with the girls because I have pictures of them sleeping on the pews because that's how long we were there, you know, which is like, very much our mo. Our personal mo, but the show's mo, Right? Everything took forever. But I also have pictures of me, like, in the courtyard of that church. Like, they had to. I couldn't sit down. Like, I needed a leaning board for the dress. That huge Vera Wang. And so I'm sitting in, like, funny. On, like, weird perches and whatever. Like, just so thrilled. Like, I'm actually getting married, which I actually don't even care about. Right. But it's like the enthusiasm of Charlotte was inhabiting me. Do you know what I mean? And I'm just beaming. I'm so excited, so happy. And the girls are so mad.
Kyle MacLachlan
Well, it's a crazy thing because rarely were all the cast members together like that. I mean, I know in each episode there was always a moment when all four of you came together and kind of lashed out.
Kristin Davis
Right, Right.
Kyle MacLachlan
We're not there. So it was rare when I was there. I think there was one dinner sequence where I was there with the girls. And I can remember. I only think I remember it was a restaurant. It was one of the oldest restaurants in New York. Oh. Where we went. And I don't even remember where it was.
Kristin Davis
Me neither.
Kyle MacLachlan
Somewhere in the theater district.
Kristin Davis
Well, I don't even remember this.
Kyle MacLachlan
I think it started with a B. Okay.
Kristin Davis
Okay.
Kyle MacLachlan
Anyway, that was one. And it was an all night one. So we were all like, of course, delirious.
Kristin Davis
Right.
Kyle MacLachlan
That. And then the wedding sequence was.
And I love the fact that the writers, like, they took me, Kyle MacLachlan, and they said, okay, we're gonna lean into the Scottish side of things. So they had me wearing a kilt.
Kristin Davis
Love it.
Kyle MacLachlan
You know, which was also brilliant because it was like, oh, he's wearing the dress. And the relay. You know, it was like. It was like, oh, there's layers here.
Kristin Davis
Absolutely.
Kyle MacLachlan
That the writers are thinking about. We're just so clever. The writing staff was so good.
Kristin Davis
Oh, my God.
Kyle MacLachlan
So good for the show. And the only other thing I wanted to mention was about was Frances Franny, because, you know, she played that Upper east side matron, Waspy matron, so perfectly when she would. I don't know if you remember this. When she would come to the makeup trailer, she would come in and, like, she'd have, like, she just came off the farm, upstate New York. She had Birkenstocks on.
Kristin Davis
So different.
Kyle MacLachlan
Like short capris, kind of. And like, kind of a blouse and like, almost a straw hat. I mean, it was literally like, I'm coming in. Just took off my garden.
Kristin Davis
Amazing.
Kyle MacLachlan
You know, in my trials and now I'm ready to turn into. And they put her in the Chanel Yep. And cigarette. And the cigarette. And suddenly, like, wow, what a transformation.
Kristin Davis
Also, she was scary.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah, she could be really scary, too.
Kristin Davis
Bunny was scary.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
At least I was scared of her.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
You know, you probably weren't, but.
Kyle MacLachlan
No, she was my mom.
Kristin Davis
Yes, Right. But I mean, that part was kind of surprising because Franny herself was like, such a mom vibe. You know what I mean? Like, so. So warm and lovely.
Kyle MacLachlan
Talented.
Kristin Davis
She took that cig in her hand and watch out, man.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. And then the. Trey.
Kristin Davis
Oh, my God.
Kyle MacLachlan
I was like, all this.
Kristin Davis
Oh, all of this.
Kyle MacLachlan
I don't think. Yes, well, we should do this. All righty. And you realize he just. He just developed his thing. That's what happened. You know, after years of that, he's.
Kristin Davis
Just like, definitely better.
Kyle MacLachlan
Better to just give up. And that because it was otherwise, it was too much.
Kristin Davis
That's true. That's why I think that the cardboard baby and the saying that you wanted to play golf, I think it was like you had developed. You, Trey, had developed this passive aggressive thing with your mom. Like, your way out. Right. And so then I push you so far, and I really want you present. Right. Like, I'm not gonna be okay with the checked out. I think that was when I have to rewatch it all, to be sure. But, like, there's a scene that I think Alan Coulter, who I had on.
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, remember? Love Alan. Yes, me too.
Kristin Davis
Love him so much. And he's one where when he showed up, the visuals, like, leapt up, you know, he was such a great director. And he fondly remembers a scene that I haven't gotten to in the rewatch. Cause I think it's after we kind of break up, and then we get back together and we have some kind of a scene about how we love each other, but it's just not enough. And he had us just leaning against a wall. Do you remember this? Vaguely. Like, possibly in the kitchen.
Kyle MacLachlan
Was it outside the door maybe?
Kristin Davis
Outside the door. And I'm wearing, like, my green. My favorite green slit.
Kyle MacLachlan
I think it was in the doorway. Maybe people will know. People will know once they watch this.
Kristin Davis
Look it up. Look it up.
Kyle MacLachlan
They'll tell us.
Kristin Davis
Yeah. I'll have you back to talk about le.
Kyle MacLachlan
We got this wrong. And we got this wrong.
Kristin Davis
But, you know, otherwise. No, I don't think we got anything wrong, Kyle. I don't. I think it works.
Kyle MacLachlan
The fans will tell us.
Kristin Davis
The fans will tell us. But, I mean, I don't think that. I don't think that the minutiae detection is retroactive. Do what I mean, I feel like the fans who love Sex and the City just watch Sex and the City and don't pick it apart in the way that the fans picked apart. And just like that. And probably anything else that's on right now.
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, maybe. Well, maybe that's the social component, right? That becomes. Because then you have a community that supports each other and then can weigh in, you know what I mean? And correct and adjust and everything.
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When you got off our show, did you go directly to Desperate Housewives or.
Kyle MacLachlan
Was there do not pass go, do not collect 200?
I don't remember. I've sort of lost the timeline because I think.
We were, well, we were in New York and then Housewives obviously shot at Universal in la. Right. I think there was a lag time. And I don't remember when I started.
Kristin Davis
Did people talk to you about Trey? Like, was it uncomfortable because of the weirdness?
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, it was funny. In New York. Yeah. I taught me at the time. Time, I was like, huh? I was like, okay. You know, that's been from the beginning. Right. You know, and I talk about New Yorkers and how that, you know, the occasional person, sometimes I would say, you know, the doorman in New York, you know, they're also, you know, outspoken and, you know, friendly and kind of, you know, would say, hey, buddy, good luck. I know you can do it. I know you can get it. You know, like, thanks, hey, thank you. Thank you, Mr. Doorman. Okay. You know, stuff like that.
Kristin Davis
Right, right, right.
Kyle MacLachlan
Occasionally, you know.
But it was, you know, you sort of take it in stride and, you know, a sense of humor and stuff. Definitely, for the most part. Sometimes you're like, yeah, right. But really, it's so, you know, it's fine. Good.
Kristin Davis
And it was. Was it fine then or was it annoying?
Kyle MacLachlan
You know, it was. It was annoying. Yeah, actually. But. But honestly. But at the same time. Yeah, but as an actor, you're like, you know, let's. How do we find the truth in this? He has an issue. He doesn't want to deal with that together. They're trying to find a way through this. And I sort of. In my mind, I said, well, maybe this indirectly will somehow help somebody, or maybe they can talk about it with a friend or, I don't know, thinking there might be a. There's a positive. There's an upside here somewhere.
Kristin Davis
Well, I think the shining truth on anything is good.
Kyle MacLachlan
Right. So the three people that I helped, I'm so. I hope that helped my embarrassing moment.
Kristin Davis
I mean, that's the other thing that was interesting. I mean, as the four of us, we all had many problems, obviously, and they would, you know, we would fall down or get the pie in the face, either literally or figuratively or whatever, obviously. But we were on there, and we were. You know, the show was about us. Right. But then for the guys, often. And sometimes it would just be one episode. Right. Like, Bobby Cannavale is in with the Funky Spunk, and Bobby's a great actor.
Kyle MacLachlan
Right. Yeah. There were other ones that I felt okay.
Kristin Davis
At least I didn't have that totally, because, like, I. Sometimes I ask these guys to come on the show, and then they don't want to come on the show, and I'm so hurt that they don't come. And then I realized what they have.
Kyle MacLachlan
Come on and be humiliated within an inch of your life.
Kristin Davis
I would never humiliate further. I would just give them the time to talk about it, you know what I mean?
Kyle MacLachlan
Because they were such good sports to.
Kristin Davis
Come on, you know? And that's true for you, too, because, of course, I don't even remember. Like, I had on my Instagram, I was like, I don't even remember why. Like, why did it end? And they were like, oh, he. There were so many problems. There was this and there was that, and there, you know. Yeah.
Kyle MacLachlan
I think it was kind of a. We got to. We got to find a way out of this. So. Because. So they want to take you on another journey, obviously. You know, this one had kind of. And. And honestly, I'd say it has been two. Two seasons, I think. Right.
Kristin Davis
They had.
Kyle MacLachlan
Right. Yeah. So it was.
Kristin Davis
I'm not even clear. I'm not even clear in my mind. Yeah. I mean, certainly longer than five or Four.
Kyle MacLachlan
But I think that you speaking earlier about that, one of the strengths of the show you were talking about here, everyone had an issue. And I said was that, that they presented these, these wonderful, glamorous, fantastic friends, but they were human.
Kristin Davis
Yes.
Kyle MacLachlan
You know, and everybody had issues that they were struggling through.
Kristin Davis
Yes.
Kyle MacLachlan
And so many people, I'm sure, watch the show to go, oh, God, I'm going through exactly the same thing.
Kristin Davis
Right.
Kyle MacLachlan
How do I handle this?
Kristin Davis
You know, I mean, I think that's true. And I also think that it's like, from what people tell me, because there's also been these very interesting phases. Like, there's this phase during COVID of like, people saying that Carrie's awful and she's a narcissist. Like, people had too much time. Obviously, during COVID.
One time, sir Jessica said, like, I just don't understand what's. What is this online? And I was like, don't even think twice about it. Because basically, number one, you were a full character. That was the point. Right. Like, how would we have ever gone on in the way that we have if she was somehow worked out? You know what I'm saying? Like, nobody's really worked out anyway.
Kyle MacLachlan
Right.
Kristin Davis
But I think it's very unusual. Like, you will have Tony Soprano, who literally kills people, but is the star of that show and much beloved. Right. And then if you have a complex woman, people are like, she's a narcissist.
Kyle MacLachlan
She's not.
Kristin Davis
She's making a bad choice. You know, like, there's an unfair judgment. But part of that is because if you think about the women characters that we get, certainly in terms of television and long term characters, they kind of have to be like lawyers or doctors or, you know, like Meredith Gray, you know, where you're, you know, they're the hero, I think. I mean, I don't watch that show for 21 episodes season. Sorry, you know what I'm saying? But like, Carrie was a flawed individual. And that was what it was supposed to be, as were the rest of us.
Kyle MacLachlan
Everybody was flawed, everybody in the. Flawed on the show, and yet at the same time lovable and, and like, and, and, and recognizable and identifiable and.
Kristin Davis
Right.
Kyle MacLachlan
You could. That's why people are like, are you aligned? Right. You know.
Whatever. And I think.
Because I think we were. There were this examples. You were demonstrating examples of, you know, how to handle and not handle. To handle a situation.
Kristin Davis
Also, I think from what people say now when they talk about, like rewatching it, like someone came on and she'd just been Through a breakup. And she was like, you know, I just watched it again. And it's totally different to watch it when you're going through a breakup than it is to watch it when you're in a couple. Right. And I was like, that's really interesting. It's hard to be objective, of course. Right. Having been in it, but I love to hear that. And then Adam Scott came on and talked about how he watched it the first time he had Covid. He had Covid pre vaccine. So he was, like, took himself away from his family and was trying not to get anyone else sick and trying to spend his time with something. So he really felt. He said he really felt like we were there for him, which is so adorable. Isn't that so adorable? Because he had a fever.
Kyle MacLachlan
Right? I know.
Kristin Davis
And I was like, I'm so glad we were there for you, Adam. Like, we want to be there for you, you know? But the fact that you can feel like we're real people is a testament to the fact that they wrote us as flood. Real people, you know? And that was also that thing where the writers would have to have some basis of the story. Right. And you know what's interesting about that? I have never asked them. I don't know who the basis for Trey was. Like, how they.
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, interesting. I don't know.
Kristin Davis
Like, was there a person who had some similar. Cause usually their rule was that they had to have, like, one degree of separation from the story. Right. But I never asked because I was so in it. You know what I mean?
Kyle MacLachlan
Well, that was always the game, right? It's like, who is this person based upon within the New York. New York community? Right?
Kristin Davis
Who is it? Do we know them? How well do we know them? Are we gonna have to talk to them about this on a red carpet at some point? Do you know what I mean? And then also when we did, especially when we went back to doing just like that, we would have to figure out amongst ourselves which writer or writer's spouse this was about. Right?
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, my gosh. Really?
Kristin Davis
Yeah. Cause they wouldn't always tell us, and we would just be like, do you think that maybe this is about. Cause then you had to be careful with what you might say or the questions you might ask, and you needed to know which writer was gonna have the best information.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
To give you.
Kyle MacLachlan
That's interesting. You know?
Kristin Davis
I know, it's pretty interesting.
Kyle MacLachlan
Incestuous. Oh, my Lord. Very close.
Kristin Davis
But in a good way.
Kyle MacLachlan
In a good way, Right?
Kristin Davis
I think.
Kyle MacLachlan
Listen, if you can't base Things upon people that you know and situations. Is that.
Kristin Davis
What's the point?
Kyle MacLachlan
That's what makes it so absolutely recognizable, identifiable, intriguing, interesting, compelling.
Kristin Davis
Absolutely. Which makes me want to ask you about overcompensating.
Kyle MacLachlan
Ah, yes.
Kristin Davis
It's so much fun.
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, my gosh. Benny, Benny. Benito Skinner. Benny, Benny. Drama, right? Lovely, lovely man.
Kristin Davis
And Mary Beth.
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, Mary Beth is so great.
Kristin Davis
Right?
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. Overcompensating was a really, really a fun experience.
Benny and Scott King, who kind of helped him, from what I understand, helped kind of mentor him through this process of writing and telling his story. His story of coming out was. It was just such a. I remember reading the script and thinking, this is really funny.
Kristin Davis
Yeah.
Kyle MacLachlan
And I love that every character had a very distinct voice.
And you could see it, you know, it was a very visual script. Those are so nice when you can. You see the action as you're reading. And I love the idea of the character of the dad.
And it was just. I mean, all across the board, just the greatest experience we shot up in Toronto for. It wasn't long, didn't take long. From my parts, we just kind of isolated, you know, And Connie Britton was the. Was my wife.
Kristin Davis
And she was so great.
Kyle MacLachlan
So great. I'm such a big fan of hers. And I just felt we have. We created between me playing his father and her as the mom. We had this relationship that was interesting and ridiculous and completely understandable from being together for so many years that we're both going kind of different directions. We both love and hate each other. It felt very true, the whole thing.
Kristin Davis
Nice. I loved it. I loved it. You're very funny.
Kyle MacLachlan
Thank you.
Kristin Davis
And you're out there, man, and you're on some show that I haven't watched with Ethan Hawke.
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, yes, yes. The Lowdown. Is it good?
Kristin Davis
Do you enjoy?
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah, really good.
Kristin Davis
What part do you play?
Kyle MacLachlan
So it's set. We're set in Tulsa. And I'm a gentleman. I'm running for governor. I come from a very wealthy money family.
Kristin Davis
Okay.
Kyle MacLachlan
And Ethan plays an investigative reporter who's kind of, in his own words, is a truth story. So he's all about telling the truth of Tulsa. And of course, Tulsa has a very interesting past. And he is. Ethan is really wonderful. And he worked with Sterling Harjo, who is our director, who had directed Reservation Dogs, Res Dogs, as they call it, which I had seen and was remarkable. Also set in Tulsa. He's local there.
Kristin Davis
Interesting.
Kyle MacLachlan
And so he wrote this script and this idea and worked closely with Ethan. And then I came in this is my fourth time working with Ethan, which is so much fun. Yeah, I really enjoy it.
Kristin Davis
I love Ethan.
Kyle MacLachlan
He's so great.
Kristin Davis
So great.
Kyle MacLachlan
You know what I think I like the most is the fact that his process is so collaborative and that the ultimate goal is to make the scene the best it can be. Which means that he's rooting for his, you know, the actor who's there also with him or actors or situations, how to make the scene better. And if it means, you know, doing something else that he hadn't planned to do, he's like, all on board. Let's make it the best. And he and I work really well together because we both have that kind of vibe, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's on right now and really good. It's a great character for me. I get to play again someone who you think you know, who is at the very beginning and then he turns into something else towards the end. Ooh, Interesting and cool cast.
Kristin Davis
I can't wait to watch it. It.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah, I think you'll enjoy it.
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Okay then I want to talk about TikTok and the pop podcast. Yes. What are you up to over there?
Kyle MacLachlan
What am I even Doing? Well, the podcast is called what are we even Doing? And I completely agree.
Kristin Davis
It's very like in life.
Kyle MacLachlan
In life, it's all about. So I, I, I. Yes. So I've started social. I've got this, you're out there social presence out there.
Kristin Davis
I mean, people are into it, engaging.
Kyle MacLachlan
I love the creative parts of social media. That's how I treat it. And it's really, for me, it's about fun and entertainment. Occasionally I'll point to, you know, a cause or a person that I think is like, hey, this person's doing something great. But really it's about making people laugh. And I have a wonderful, I have a wonderful crew. So Desiree Gruber, my wife's full picture and the chief content officer who's with us today, Ann Walls is her here and she has a junior staff as well, of young creatives, brilliant creatives. And so we work together on this. So it's a collaborative process. I'm very engaged and very involved and kind of up for anything. They bring me ideas and I'm like.
Kristin Davis
I love that, Kyle. That's so impressive.
Kyle MacLachlan
And it's all good. I think there might even have been a reference to a cardboard baby at one point in time in the past. Oh, yes, I'm missing.
Kristin Davis
I missed that one. We dig deep, girls.
Kyle MacLachlan
We dig deep.
Kristin Davis
Get on it.
Kyle MacLachlan
So that's been really fun. And then that sort of led into this because it's very much a connection with a younger generation. And so that started opening up the idea of, like, maybe there's a way that I can sort of infiltrate this world and begin to understand what's happening with the young millennials.
Kristin Davis
We need someone to understand.
Kyle MacLachlan
We need an interpreter.
Kristin Davis
Yeah, we need an interpreter.
Kyle MacLachlan
I brought a glossary. This is a man on the street.
Kristin Davis
I'm very excited.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. And I've got some, I've got some field notes here that I'm bringing back from the generation. So there are, there are definitely the slang. You've probably heard about this.
Kristin Davis
I have a 14 year old.
Kyle MacLachlan
Okay, so you are very aware of the slang.
Kristin Davis
I mean, some of it.
Kyle MacLachlan
I could, I could actually, I could ask you a couple questions about some of the words and see if you. If that's come up. Conversation.
Kristin Davis
Go ahead.
Kyle MacLachlan
Chopped would be a good one word. Chopped.
Kristin Davis
Okay, hold on. I feel like I should know this.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah, it kind of, I mean, it's, it, it. I think it's A positive kind of eludes.
Kristin Davis
Is it a positive?
Kyle MacLachlan
Actually not.
Kristin Davis
Okay. Oh, dear. Ooh, I'm bad.
Kyle MacLachlan
You are definitely not chopped.
Kristin Davis
I'm not chopped. Okay, so that's a good thing to not be chopped?
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. Chopped is ugly.
Kristin Davis
Ugly.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. Yeah.
Kristin Davis
No, not. At least you're not using the word ugly.
Kyle MacLachlan
That's right. It's chopped.
Kristin Davis
Okay.
Kyle MacLachlan
Okay.
Kristin Davis
Thank you, Kyle.
Kyle MacLachlan
Who knows? It's a little bit like cockney rhyming slang, you know, where you say one word and then something else.
Kristin Davis
Got it, got it.
Kyle MacLachlan
Unk is another good one.
Kristin Davis
I just heard this recently too. You're up on it, babe.
Kyle MacLachlan
I don't know. These are all. This is all just directly. I'm coming right to you.
Kristin Davis
I love it, I love it, I love it. What's unk?
Kyle MacLachlan
Unk is old. Yeah. So I'm. I'm approaching.
Kristin Davis
I'm. I'm unk.
Kyle MacLachlan
I'm approaching.
Kristin Davis
I think we're both unk compared to these.
Kyle MacLachlan
You are not unk.
Kristin Davis
Let me just say I am, baby. I think I am.
Kyle MacLachlan
Then there's a very interesting one, which is. Can I say this boy or soft boy?
Kristin Davis
You know, I have heard this before, and I literally still feel like I do not know the definition.
Kyle MacLachlan
Well, this. This came directly from Gerald Viswanathan, who was a guest on my. On my podcast. And the boy is someone that is very clearly there for one thing and one thing only.
Kristin Davis
Well, that's pretty simple, right?
Kyle MacLachlan
Very, very straightforward.
Kristin Davis
Okay.
Kyle MacLachlan
Soft boy, on the other hand, if I'm. If I'm understanding this correctly, I may be corrected online. We'll find out. Soft boy comes across as, like, very gentle and got all your.
Kristin Davis
But he's not.
Kyle MacLachlan
But he's not. He's in there for one thing. So it's a wolf. It's. It's a wolf in sheep's clothing. Okay.
Kristin Davis
Okay.
Kyle MacLachlan
Okay. Yeah. Okay. Okay.
Kristin Davis
This is super interesting.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. So that's.
Kristin Davis
Glad to know.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. Some of the. Some of those things, you know, there's others. Delulu, of course. The brain rot. Yeah.
Kristin Davis
Okay.
Kyle MacLachlan
I know. Cap. Cap. Yeah, Cap.
Kristin Davis
I find. Bit confusing. I don't know why we need that word for that, but. Okay.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah, no, I think it's. This is. This is all good. I've had. The one that I really love is put the fries in the bag.
Kristin Davis
What does that mean?
Kyle MacLachlan
It just means end it. Put the fries in the bag. Let's go.
Kristin Davis
Okay, I'm gonna use that.
Kyle MacLachlan
Put the fries in the bag.
Kristin Davis
I'm gonna use that because I need my kids to move Quicker.
Kyle MacLachlan
That's what you put the fries in.
Kristin Davis
Put the fries in the back of.
Kyle MacLachlan
Them and they're gonna look at you.
Kristin Davis
Like, I'm gonna do it.
Kyle MacLachlan
God. Jesus seen into our very soul. I have this situation now.
Kristin Davis
Oh, I love it. I have the situation now where my 14 year old does not want to hear about six, seven, but my seven year old does.
Kyle MacLachlan
Seven makes sense. Yeah.
Kristin Davis
Yes.
Kyle MacLachlan
But it's sort of nonsense from what I understand.
Kristin Davis
It's definitely nonsense.
Kyle MacLachlan
That's in here too.
Kristin Davis
But they were so into it in the summer. Especially like in the summer, I had girls over for my daughter's birthday. They made a six, seven cookie and.
Kyle MacLachlan
I was like, okay, okay.
Kristin Davis
Why?
Kyle MacLachlan
Can anyone explain? Here's the news on the six, seven. Yes. You see, it's groovy. Group seven, okay. Breaking Gen Z news.
Kristin Davis
Okay.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. Group seven. So that's it.
Kristin Davis
Okay. Thank you. I have so much.
Kyle MacLachlan
So that's what I've got so far. Good job. But I'm going to continue.
Kristin Davis
I like it. I like it. Okay. So when people come on the podcast, they help you with these things.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah, there's some sayings that come up in the car, but really I'm there to. I'm really there because I'm curious. It's all about the creative process for me. So it's a conversation like we're having, you know, based upon what they're doing and what they're about to do or where they come from. It's like how they start. Started what's important, their authenticity, of course. And also talking a little bit about, you know, kind of, kind of just whatever, whatever moves them, you know what I mean? And how they use social. And so this is all. This is part of an exploration and a conversation. And I realized, you know, I know and you're probably the same way. I know my mentors, I know the people that I admired growing up, you know, James Dean, Marlon Brander. These were people at Monte Cliffe. These were people that I read everything about, wanted to emulate. And I'm like, I realized I don't have.
Kristin Davis
Have.
Kyle MacLachlan
I don't look back and sort of see who's coming up that I really am aware of or respond to. And so I've started to do that.
Kristin Davis
That's a good point.
Kyle MacLachlan
Wonderful interview with Dylan o', Brien, young actor who I really admire. And, you know, it's just an opportunity to speak with him about, hey, what? How are you finding this journey that we're on as artists? You know, that's good.
Kristin Davis
I think that's great. Well, that's partly what I love about Marybeth and Ben. Benny, you know, like to see young people where they're self made. They just found their own way.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
Like Benny on, you know, Instagram, like.
Kyle MacLachlan
Initially first started on Instagram.
Kristin Davis
The Kardashians.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
Like, wow. And then had the forethought to put it on YouTube. It's incredible. And Mary Beth, I mean, they were both standups, which I didn't really realize. But you know, like Benny kind of like just creatively found that way. And then here he is also able to do the more traditional media.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
Though obviously he had Scott King Halp, which is great. But like it's his own story, you know, it's really, it's so impressive.
Kyle MacLachlan
It is impressive. And the way they're using social media to. To self generate.
Kristin Davis
Yes.
Kyle MacLachlan
And it's really, it's really amazing. Yeah, it's amazing. And it's hard work.
Kristin Davis
Yes.
Kyle MacLachlan
To have a social presence, as I'm discovering.
Kristin Davis
Oh my God, I have help. Oh, I have help too.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. It's hard work. Oh.
Kristin Davis
Because if you're just by yourself, I mean, first of all, like, oh man, I rely on my ladies. They're here. But you know, like, because you can't research all the trends and everything. And when they came over, I mean, I didn't sleep the night before. I was so nervous. Yeah. I was like, what am I gonna do? I had to clean the house. Cuz like, we're not used to just filming in our house and stuff.
Kyle MacLachlan
You are, Charlotte. I mean, that's just I've been realizing all along, you know, I had to clean the house. That is so funny. Do you clean before the cleaners come? Do you do that kind of thing?
Kristin Davis
Sometimes.
Kyle MacLachlan
Sometimes I tidy.
Kristin Davis
Try to relax. Now that I have two children, I've relaxed. Everything was different before the kids. Before the kids. Kids.
Kyle MacLachlan
I mean, you were spotless.
Kristin Davis
Yes. And I mean there was no clutter. Right. And I loved it. It was fantastic. I'm trying to get back.
Kyle MacLachlan
You've given up.
Kristin Davis
Yeah, I did pretty much give up. And now I'm like, this is stressing me out.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. You know, I find that if I have one space in my house that is uncluttered and so I have a little gym that was my garage and that's kind of my space.
Kristin Davis
Nice.
Kyle MacLachlan
However.
Kristin Davis
Yeah.
Kyle MacLachlan
Because I don't have any other place to sort of put stuff. Inevitably I find that there's three boxes in here that I did not put in here. And I become really And I'm like, excuse me, excuse me. These have to be removed right now.
Kristin Davis
Good for you.
Kyle MacLachlan
I like my little. That's all I need is one little area.
Kristin Davis
I've lost all my areas. My areas are gone. I mean, I have this house. I got this bigger house when I. When I had the. The second. When I adopted him. Got this bigger house so that everyone could have space. That was my idea that we'd have a playroom, you know, with the toys. Because at my old house, like I was living under toys, you know, it just like takes over.
Kyle MacLachlan
Toys do take over.
Kristin Davis
So I got this playroom and I was like, the toys are going to stay in the playroom.
Kyle MacLachlan
Right. Well, not so true.
Kristin Davis
No one told the seven year old. Right. So now I've got like, you know, these beyblades. What the heck? Was your son not into these?
Kyle MacLachlan
What is it?
Kristin Davis
It's a weird thing.
Kyle MacLachlan
Is that the tops that fight? Yeah. No, for a moment. Yeah. For a moment he had a thing. But I don't think he really appealed to him. He had other stuff that he was scared the dog.
Kristin Davis
It's like a situation. We've got them everywhere. Okay.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
And then we've got Legos everywhere.
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, Legos. Yeah.
Kristin Davis
Oh, my God.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. You got.
Kristin Davis
And then we've got still toy cars.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah, toy cars. Well, toy cars, Menagerie. They'll stay forever. Legos, in fact, stay forever.
Kristin Davis
Which, I mean, Legos are great, right?
Kyle MacLachlan
My son still loves Legos. I love Legos.
Kristin Davis
Well, I mean, I do sit down and do Legos. My son thinks I'm bad at it. And he tells me, you are not good at Legos. Mommy.
Kyle MacLachlan
They have a facility about it that they can. They look at the thing and go.
Kristin Davis
Which I think is great. They're building, right? They're building. Building is great. But I guess I'm not that good at it. But also I look at it as like resting. Right. Like mommy's gonn a little. And build a wall.
Kyle MacLachlan
You build. You build characters. That's what you do. You.
Kristin Davis
I try. I do my best, man. It's not easy. It's not easy, man.
Kyle MacLachlan
I know. Well, the toy thing does. It does eventually move.
Kristin Davis
I can't wait. I mean, we're at that point where we've got the little toys that need to go. But see, I need some help. Yeah, I need some help.
Kyle MacLachlan
I wish when I was. Because I had two younger brothers and growing up.
Kristin Davis
Yeah.
Kyle MacLachlan
And we had. That was kind of the advent of Hot Wheels.
Kristin Davis
Oh, yeah.
Kyle MacLachlan
Tons of Hot Wheels. Wheels. First Run Hot Wheels.
Kristin Davis
Oh, wow. Which my mom and you didn't keep them.
Kyle MacLachlan
No. Goodwill and. Which I understood, you know, there a lot of toys, you know, we had a lot of toys. But I do think back on some of the early games and I said, I wish we had the original. I don't know what we'd do with it, honestly.
Kristin Davis
I know you'd have to have some.
Kyle MacLachlan
Be in a box somewhere on the shelf. But I'd be like, I know, I know.
Kristin Davis
I'm with you. I have this memory game that I had as a child and it's so vintage and somehow the pears are in there and 7 year old has discovered the memory game. So now at 6am when the coffee hasn't really hit, I have to play the memory game. But I'm like, this is good. This is good for anti dementia.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah. It's impossible. Yes, yes, that's impossible.
Kristin Davis
But it's also like these vintage 70s cards, which is just kind of a miracle, right? So it does make you really. When something survives, you appreciate it. But you know what I realized I forgot to ask you, Kyle, are you a Charlotte?
Kyle MacLachlan
Yes, Definitely a Charlotte. Yay. Yeah. Yeah. Without question.
Kristin Davis
Love it.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
I feel you are.
Kyle MacLachlan
Didn't even have to think.
Kristin Davis
Yeah.
Kyle MacLachlan
Yeah.
Kristin Davis
Didn't even have to think. Yes, I feel you are too. I just wanted to double check.
Kyle MacLachlan
Oh, yeah.
Kristin Davis
And it's my official thing I have to do, right?
Kyle MacLachlan
Yes, of course. Absolutely.
Kristin Davis
Thank you. Of course. You're a Charlotte. Yeah. Kyle, you're a dream.
Kyle MacLachlan
That was so much fun.
Kristin Davis
I know. Thank you for being here and you needed to come back.
Kyle MacLachlan
I will come back. I really enjoyed it. It's so fun to rehash with and hear your perspective on things and have those memories.
Kristin Davis
And also, you remembered a lot.
Kyle MacLachlan
I did okay, right?
Kristin Davis
I did.
Kyle MacLachlan
Well, I was saying before, your prompts were very good.
Kristin Davis
Thank you.
Kyle MacLachlan
You told me.
Kristin Davis
Thank you very much.
Kyle MacLachlan
But yeah, I remember quite a lot. It was such a really. It was a wonderful period of time in my life and I really enjoyed it. I felt like I was on really.
Kristin Davis
A special show and you were. And we're so lucky that you were with us.
Kyle MacLachlan
Thank you.
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Host: Kristin Davis
Guest: Kyle MacLachlan
Date: December 4, 2025
In this special episode, Kristin Davis (Charlotte York from Sex and the City) reunites with Kyle MacLachlan (Trey MacDougal, Charlotte’s ex-husband on the show) for an affectionate, candid, and humorous look back at their time working together. They share behind-the-scenes stories from Sex and the City, discuss specific moments from their on-screen relationship, reflect on the show’s cultural impact and writing, and catch up on their recent creative projects and family life. Kyle also gives a peek into his playful approach to social media and his podcast “What Are We Even Doing?”
Tennis Scenes & Behind-the-Scenes Stories (03:23–05:17)
Iconic Visuals & Standout Scenes (05:39–06:34)
The Character of Bunny & Actor Transformations (12:47–13:50)
Kyle praises Frances Sternhagen’s transformation from “mom-sy” off-set to terrifying Upper East Side matron on-screen:
“She just came off the farm, upstate New York… put her in the Chanel and cigarette, and suddenly, like, wow, what a transformation.”
— Kyle MacLachlan, 13:22
Kristin admits she was genuinely intimidated by Bunny, though she describes Frances as warm and lovely in real life.
Directorial Styles and On-Set Memories (06:34–07:19)
“He would film us even in the intimate scene on a longer lens… it’s so cinematic.”
— Kristin Davis, 06:36
Challenges of Filming High-Pressure Scenes (08:29–09:16)
Kristin shares her nerves about close-up shots and the pressure to authentically embody Charlotte’s feelings:
“It’s like someone’s like, choking you… the pressure.”
— Kristin Davis, 08:30
Kyle encourages her, explaining her authentic struggle was “perfect” for the Charlotte character.
Cultural Impact of Trey and Male Characters (20:01–22:57)
On Imperfect Characters & Relatability (22:36–24:35)
Both reflect on how SATC was groundbreaking for featuring flawed, fully-developed women (and men), noting the double standard for female characters’ likability:
“If you have a complex woman, people are like, she's a narcissist.”
— Kristin Davis, 23:54
“Everybody was flawed… but at the same time lovable and… identifiable, and you could… that's why people are like, are you aligned?”
— Kyle MacLachlan, 24:26
How the Show Resonated with Fans (24:51–25:32)
Writing Roots & Character Inspirations (25:56–27:02)
Overcompensating and Collaborations (27:11–28:38)
Working with Ethan Hawke & New Projects (28:44–30:19)
Exploring Social Media & “What Are We Even Doing?” (34:31–36:10)
Kyle describes his playful, collaborative approach to content creation on TikTok and Instagram and his intent to make it fun and creative:
“It’s really, for me, it’s about fun and entertainment. Occasionally I’ll point to a cause… but really it’s about making people laugh.”
— Kyle MacLachlan, 34:54
His podcast explores how younger generations create and engage, often focusing on slang and generational culture gaps.
Generation Z Slang Quiz & Cultural Curiosity (36:10–39:14)
Differences in Mentorship Across Generations (40:06–41:12)
Family Clutter & Parental Chaos (41:42–44:52)
Both share quintessentially modern parenting stories about dealing with toys, family clutter, and losing their “Charlotte” tidiness after kids.
Reminiscence about vintage toys (Hot Wheels, memory games) and the nostalgia of passing them down.
Are You a Charlotte? (45:31–45:39)
“Are you a Charlotte?”
“Yes, Definitely a Charlotte. Yay. Yeah. Without question.”
— Kyle MacLachlan, 45:31
“I feel you are. Didn't even have to think.”
— Kristin Davis, 45:36
On Working with Baby Oil in the Tennis Scene:
“The makeup ladies came over, and they were like, you need to be a little sweatier... and they started taking baby oil and rubbing it on my chest... I was just like, okay, that’s fine. Whatever.”
— Kyle MacLachlan (04:32)
On the Bathtub Scene with Bunny:
“This is the entire relationship in one scene, in one visual.”
— Kyle MacLachlan (06:02)
On the Show’s Writing:
“The writers are so brilliant. That was right?”
— Kyle MacLachlan (08:14)
On Playing Flawed Characters:
“You were demonstrating examples of how to handle and not handle...a situation.”
— Kyle MacLachlan (24:42)
On Fan Rewatches:
“It’s totally different to watch it when you’re going through a breakup than it is to watch it when you’re in a couple.”
— Kristin Davis (24:51)
On Being a ‘Charlotte’:
“Yes, Definitely a Charlotte. Yay. Yeah. Without question.”
— Kyle MacLachlan (45:31)
The conversation is warm, nostalgic, and playful, filled with mutual admiration, laughter, and a sense of camaraderie. Kristin and Kyle blend affectionate teasing with sincere insights about their craft, the impact of Sex and the City, and their lives beyond the show. Their rapport offers both comfort to longtime fans and thoughtful commentary on how entertainment, culture, and family life have evolved.
Whether you’re a Sex and the City devotee or new to Charlotte and Trey’s saga, this episode is a delightful blend of behind-the-scenes revelations, contemporary reflections, and humorous banter—a celebration of both the show’s enduring legacy and the genuine friendships it inspired.