GET ON THE LIST with Peyton List... (S3 E15 "Hot Child In The City")

Summary

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Are You A Charlotte?

Episode: "GET ON THE LIST with Peyton List... (S3 E15 'Hot Child In The City')"
Date: February 16, 2026
Host: Kristin Davis
Guest: Peyton List (former guest star on Sex and the City, S3E15)
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode is all about nostalgia, behind-the-scenes insights, and generational reflections, centered on the iconic Sex and the City episode "Hot Child In The City" (Season 3, Episode 15). Kristin Davis (Charlotte York) welcomes Peyton List, who appeared in this very episode as a precocious teen, to discuss what it was like working on the show as a young actress, the fashion, New York in the early 2000s, changing attitudes about youth, adulthood, and pop culture, and the ways Sex and the City shaped TV history.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Revisiting "Hot Child In The City" (03:03–06:00)

• Kristin introduces the episode and guest, Peyton List, reminiscing about casting, ages, and working with Kat Dennings.
• Peyton recalls being between 13–14 during filming and shares how all the young actresses were close in age.
• Kristin observes Kat Dennings' look is “so specific…completely recognizable from the time you were that young to how you grew up.” (03:27)
• Both note the remarkable experience of watching Dennings' and List’s careers evolve.

2. Teenage Glam and 2000s Excess (05:13–06:43)

• Peyton and Kristin laugh about the episode's extravagance—a 13-year-old Bat Mitzvah with a budget of "a million" dollars.
• Kristin: “Samantha’s just like, ‘Oh, wow.’” (05:30)
• They reflect on the episode’s tongue-in-cheek accuracy: teens acting like adults, a trope that seems even more relevant now.

3. Fashion Cycles & Generational Trends (06:09–06:48)

• Kristin comments on her daughter’s generation adopting ‘90s grunge and baggy styles, noting, “But they don’t really know it’s grunge. They don’t really understand the origins of it.” (06:32)

4. Getting Cast as a Teen on SATC (06:54–09:24)

• Peyton’s route to the show: transitioned from child modeling to acting—Sex and the City felt like “just another audition.”
• Peyton wasn’t aware how iconic the show was until after being cast, due in part to HBO being a premium channel.

Notable Quote:

• “HBO was kind of like this… luxury thing to have. It wasn’t this, ‘oh you need to have HBO otherwise you’re not going to see any of the relevant shows’…” — Peyton List (07:43)

5. New York Locations, Billboards, and Sex and the City’s Visibility (08:36–09:24)

• Both reminisce about risky, eye-catching advertising ("the martini glass" and "Cosmo glass" billboard) and the show's impact on NYC culture.

6. On-Set Memories & Child Labor Rules (09:24–13:20)

• Peyton remembers her mother accompanying her; recalls a large and intimidating audition.
• Kristin details set logistics: location shooting in NYC, union rules limiting kids’ hours, and the difference between children’s and adult filming experiences.
• The cast’s increased fame across S3 made for longer hours and a more intense shooting environment.

7. Comparing TV Eras & Popularity Rise (14:39–15:36)

• Kristin recalls the show’s evolution: from “just our little secret” in S1 to a massive cultural phenomenon by S3.
• “It started to really have a life of its own and you didn’t have to beg people to talk to us anymore.” — Kristin Davis (15:35)

8. The Realism and Hierarchies of NY Teens (10:51–12:13)

• Peyton only truly understood the "Manhattan girls" archetype years later, seeing how real-life circles influenced shows like Gossip Girl.
• Peyton: “You’re running in certain circles and you start to overlap with people...and later on you’re like, oh, that’s what Gossip Girl was sort of based on.” (11:05–11:18)

9. NYC Filming Stories: Scale & Chaos (11:32–12:13)

• Peyton was awed by the logistics of shutting down Midtown for street scenes.
• “As someone who spent a lot of time in New York, I’m going, this is very inconvenient for people… and everyone’s probably going, ‘Ooh, what’s that? That’s called crafty. Can I have some of that?’” — Peyton List (11:35)

10. 2000s Culture vs. Now (27:48–29:34)

• Both reflect on the comic book guy plotline—then seen as odd, now very mainstream.
• Peyton: “It does really stand out as this almost thing that was viewed as very childish… whereas now, yes, it’s universal. Every age, every guy.” (27:48)
• Kristin: “But now it’s so accurate. No one moves out from their parents’ house, apparently…” (28:00)

11. Fittings, Costumes, and Fashion Mishaps (34:42–37:13)

• Peyton recalls a wardrobe malfunction: “My top did not want to stay on… I might have flashed them. I don’t know.” (35:26)
• The difference between runway and real-life costumes, and the chaos of filming arrivals as teens.

12. The SATC Formula and New York’s Constant Change (38:24–43:40)

• The strangeness of stores disappearing in NYC, giving context to Carrie’s shoe repair/comic book store moment.
• Kristin and Peyton discuss the authenticity of SATC filming on-location, battling weather and budgets.
• Kristin: “Sarah Jessica saying, ‘We need to be on the street. You need to be able to see our shoes.’ …You’re losing the city part.” (24:42)

Notable Quote:

• “For Charlotte, no one would ever accept that I would have frizz. Though I do have wavy hair in one scene, which I was always really pushing for because I just didn’t want to wear that same straight hair all the time.” — Kristin Davis (25:09–25:22)

13. Iconic Fashion—The “Chanel Top” Story (40:06–43:40)

• Kristin tells the hilarious and convoluted backstory of Carrie’s infamous Chanel top and its reappearance in "And Just Like That," including Sarah Jessica Parker’s penchant for wearing things backwards.
• “She loves things backwards or upside down or whatever. Mismatch. She likes that.” — Kristin Davis (40:44)
• Discusses creative TV fashion on SATC, budget limits, and the centrality of style to characters’ personalities.

14. Plot Recap & Observations (38:24–47:53)

• Deep-dive into the main plots: Carrie’s romance with a "man-child" comic book store owner, Miranda’s braces, Charlotte and therapy, and the show's reflexive humor about age.
• The enduring relevance of women’s storylines and the “ancient at 33” motif:
  • “It was a reference because back at this time we were considered Old. Which is really laugh out loud funny. I mean, we’re 33 and we’re talking about, like, that’s what society conditions you…” — Kristin Davis (47:53–48:08)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Kat Dennings… you can so tell how, there are some people like that. If you saw a picture of me when I was seven, it does not look really remotely like the same person.”
  — Peyton List (03:27)

• “Well, first of all, my daughter’s not really interested in the low waisted, but she is interested in the baggy. They’re really into the baggy, almost grunge. But they don’t really know it’s grunge.”
  — Kristin Davis (06:32)

• “We got incredible, incredible things [at Century 21]. I mean, it was the only way that we could because we were borrowing stuff by this point in the show. But we had started with a tiny budget, you know, so they just had to be super creative as well.”
  — Kristin Davis (44:00)

• “I didn’t really understand the kind of girls that was inspired by until, like, a few years later, when I actually met them. Because you’re running in certain circles, and you start to overlap with people.”
  — Peyton List (10:54)

• “There are a lot of cool shots [in the episode], but also, I feel like everyone seemed very relaxed. … Sometimes we just seem, like, relaxed and giggly, which. The whole episode… it was so charming.”
  — Kristin Davis (26:41)

• “It’s so now. … But back then, we would have… put a guy in a more juvenile, don’t-take-him-seriously category.”
  — Peyton List (27:49)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:03 — Peyton List reminisces about auditioning and filming as a teen
• 06:32 — Kristin observes her daughter’s (and her peers’) fashion echoes 1990s grunge
• 07:43 — Peyton on how HBO was considered a luxury and many weren’t familiar with the show’s phenomenon
• 11:35 — Peyton describes chaos of filming on New York streets
• 14:39–15:36 — Kristin on SATC's evolution from niche to pop culture juggernaut
• 25:09 — Kristin’s campaign to let “Charlotte” wear wavy hair
• 35:26–36:07 — Peyton’s wardrobe malfunction and surviving it with humor
• 38:24–43:40 — Carrie’s Top: the myth, the legend, and the vintage chase
• 47:53 — Age anxiety and “ancient at 33”—how society’s view has changed

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Tone and Style

The conversation is warm, funny, self-deprecating, and nostalgic, mirroring the chemistry and humor of Sex and the City itself. Both Kristin and Peyton speak with fondness, honesty, and gentle amusement about everything from fashion mishaps to Hollywood culture, aging, and the quirks of New York.

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Conclusion

This episode of Are You A Charlotte? is both a celebration and a reflection—of Sex and the City's place in television history, of the changing cultural tides from the early 2000s to today, and of what endures from that iconic summer of “Hot Child in the City.” From wardrobe malfunctions to social commentary, Kristin and Peyton offer both loyal fans and newcomers a lively walk down memory lane, with juicy details you won’t get anywhere else.

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[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Hi, I'm Kristen Davis and I want to know, are you a Charlotte?

[Kristin Davis]

You guys, everyone, thank you for joining us on Are you a charlo?

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

We are rewatching Hot Child in the.

[Kristin Davis]

City which aired in 2000, the year 2000 and we have Peyton List who with us, who's in the episode and who must have been what like 13, 14?

[Peyton List]

Yeah, I think I was, I think it was like, right around. I, I remember it was shooting in the summer and that was when my birthday fell. So it's somewhere around my birthday, but I think we shot it, like, before I turned 14 or a day after.

[Kristin Davis]

I hear the actual accurate age of the character. That's so unusual.

[Peyton List]

And all of us were within a year of each other.

[Kristin Davis]

Amazing. And you're there with Kat Dennings, who we love so much, who's a little baby.

[Peyton List]

I know, just little babies. But at the same time, I think she's also one of those people that I look at and I'm like, you're completely recognizable from the time you were that young to, like, how you grew up. Like, I, you can so tell how there's some people like that.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Peyton List]

If you saw a picture of me when I was seven, it does not look really remotely like the same person. You just get those, like, features.

[Kristin Davis]

I look exactly the same.

[Peyton List]

You look exactly the same.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly the same.

[Peyton List]

Yeah. I just feel like there's some people that. It's just so clear.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, it's clear. You know, I mean, I'm much older, but, you know, I, you, I, I look the same my whole life, I think.

[Peyton List]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And Kat, so specific. Her total look is such a specific look. I love to see her on the billboards now for her new show.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Which is so funny that she's playing Tim Allen's daughter. I played Tim Allen's wife in a movie. Shaggy Dog. Oh, my God. It was a very small world. And I haven't seen her because she then went on to do. She did this part when you guys were super young. 13, 14.

[Peyton List]

Yeah. And.

[Kristin Davis]

And this is in the year 2000. You were all acting, which, you know, let's get into that later. How did this come to be? But then later she goes on to do 2 Broke Girls, which is Michael Patrick's other show.

[Peyton List]

Yes. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Which is so nice. And I used to see her. He would have, you know, things, events or dinners or whatever, and I would see her. And I mean, they worked so hard, but they were so great on that show.

[Peyton List]

Yeah, it was. Well, it was a great show. Great show.

[Kristin Davis]

I know she and Beth were really, really amazing. Beth Behrs, so great. And I love her so much. And the fact that she is a little child here with yourself and I mean, so they are just to refresh, everybody there is Samantha, as we know, is a publicist and she gets this client who is a 13 year old girl who's going to have her Bat Mitzvah and her dad is super wealthy. And Samantha is a little bit like, no, I'm not going to do this. And then Kat's character, whose name is.

[Peyton List]

She starts name dropping people big time.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, she really is like, well. And then she says something about the money, you know, like a million. Does she say something like, we, I don't think we're going to be able to do this party for under a million.

[Peyton List]

Which sounds so crazy.

[Kristin Davis]

In the year 2000.

[Peyton List]

In the year 2000, right, yeah, I know.

[Kristin Davis]

And Samantha's just like, oh, wow.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Okay.

[Kristin Davis]

And then at a different point in the show, they're all at a restaurant and you guys are there and you send Samantha champagne and then you come over and you're just, you're so. It's so accurate to today. Also in terms of like, at one point I think I'm. My character's not at the. I'm at therapy with Trey apparently, but I'm not there. And the girls say like, oh, they're 14 going on 30. Like 100% you are. But this is how all of them are now. I don't know if you know any 14 year olds.

[Peyton List]

I don't know. I don't know. I don't think I know any 14 year olds.

[Kristin Davis]

Got it. My daughter's 14.

[Peyton List]

Oh, wow. Okay. All right. So you know it.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

She's doing great.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. But like, sometimes I look at her friends and I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, what are they doing? What are they wearing? I mean, they're wearing 90s clothes is what they're wearing.

[Peyton List]

But that's so. It's so strange that we're back. I know. I mean, I look around and I'm like, I was certain this would never see the light of day again. Like, we all decided this was a bad idea. Right? Collectively we decided, I know these pants will never come back.

[Kristin Davis]

I know.

[Peyton List]

But you get.

[Kristin Davis]

Well, first of all, my daughter's not really interested in the low waisted, but she is interested in like the baggy. They're really into the baggy, almost grunge. But they don't really know it's grunge. Right. They don't really understand the origins of it.

[Peyton List]

Yeah, it's super interesting. And it hasn't gone full grunge, like to where it was in the early 90s.

[Kristin Davis]

I don't think it will. But wait, let's talk about you. How did you come to be on the show? What? How did you. What was going on?

[Peyton List]

It was, it was one of those things where a lot of the kids who did, like, children's modeling also did children's acting because it all kind of led over to, like, working kids kind of thing. There were, of course, of course, kids that only did acting or, I mean, most all of the kids that did, like, children's modeling, they would just be like, oh, we'll just go out for this audition, because really what's required of you is following instructions rather than, you know, like, if we can get some acting out of you, great. But they weren't so picky. But it was. It kind of fell into that category because I was already there doing that off and on. And it was just an audition that was kind of like any other audition.

[Kristin Davis]

Did you know what the show was?

[Peyton List]

I'm not sure. Like, I know once. I know once I got it, I knew what the show was. But again, that time where I lived, not everybody had hbo, Right. HBO was kind of like this. Seen as like this luxury thing to have. It wasn't this, oh, you need to have hbo, otherwise you're not going to see any of the relevant shows that are on the air kind of thing. Like it was Sopranos and. And you guys, Right. Like, it was Six Feet under maybe, I think.

[Kristin Davis]

But, you know, it was Six Feet under is coming. Right?

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

It was.

[Peyton List]

It's that time where, you know, people who maybe the households that really cared about, like, great television would, would, you know, get hbo. But I was aware of it because I was in New York all the time. And I can really remember the billboards because they were everywhere, you know, and it was provocative. Like, it was.

[Kristin Davis]

It was like Martini glass. Like Cosmo glass.

[Peyton List]

Exactly, exactly.

[Kristin Davis]

With her laptop in the Cosmo glass. That was very odd as a, you know, I remember being like, whoa, we really want to do this. But super brilliant on HBO's part, eye catching.

[Peyton List]

I mean, I remember being a kid who didn't have hbo, you know, didn't know people who watched the show. But I remember those billboards, I remember Penn Station, those pictures being on, you know, the signs and everything.

[Kristin Davis]

And if you think about advertising now for shows and movies, it's so risque. But back then it wasn't.

[Peyton List]

No, it wasn't.

[Kristin Davis]

Especially for TV shows. It was just like people in suits.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

You know, like in a very stilted, posed looking gallery situation.

[Peyton List]

Gallery shoot.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely, absolutely. That's interesting. So there you are, you're 13 years old. Did your parents come with you? How did it work?

[Peyton List]

Yeah, it was always. Usually my mother and I feel like it's one of those things where I, again, Like, I don't trust my memory totally, but I do feel like I have this memory of going out to.

[Kristin Davis]

Silver cup, was in Queens, or it's in Long Island. Long Island City, which is part of Queens.

[Peyton List]

So I didn't go. I didn't leave Manhattan, mostly because that's just not where a lot of, like, the ghosties are cast things were. But I do sort of have a memory of going into a room and it being a very large room and it just being a very different environment to. To, like a go see for children's stuff.

[Kristin Davis]

It was.

[Peyton List]

And, like, the high pressure of, oh, you've got to say lines that you memorize. You know, I was not. I wasn't really, like, a theater kid, so it was this, like, I don't belong here, but I'm gonna pretend I do. You know what I mean?

[Kristin Davis]

You did a great job.

[Peyton List]

I just rewatched it, and I'm like, oh, my God.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God. I think you're fantastic.

[Peyton List]

At stake, I feel like you're being really generous. I'm like, wow, I did not understand edit back then. Oh, my God.

[Kristin Davis]

It doesn't matter. First of all, the way you all look and the way you carry yourselves, you're very believable. It's very believable in a kind of slightly frightening way. But that's the part, you know, just how.

[Peyton List]

How well can we shame people? Isn't it, like. I mean.

[Kristin Davis]

But also, like, just the whole, like, you know, this is not your fault. This is the part.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

You're entitled.

[Peyton List]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Manhattan Girls.

[Peyton List]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

It's a very real thing.

[Peyton List]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And you're all just gorgeous.

[Peyton List]

You know, I didn't understand. I didn't really understand the kind of girls that. That was inspired by until, like, a few years later when I actually met them.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Peyton List]

You know what I mean? Because you're running in certain circles, and you start to overlap with people, and.

[Kristin Davis]

You'Re like, oh, it's a real thing. It's a real thing. It is a real thing.

[Peyton List]

And, like, later on, you're like, oh, that's what Gossip Girl was sort of based on. You're like, oh, it's a continuation of that.

[Kristin Davis]

That's exactly right. That's exactly right. Yeah, so my thought, too, because I know, okay, so this particular season was our season, where it was just a big, big season, you know? And I remember that some of these scenes, like when you guys are coming into the party.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, it was a big scene on the street.

[Peyton List]

That's one of the Things that's most memorable for me because I'd been in. I was in New York a lot, and, like, how shocking it was to see, like, the magnitude of shutting down multiple streets in the middle of midtown Manhattan. Like, what that took to do and how, as someone who spent a lot of time New York, I'm going, this is very inconvenient for people. I would be really annoyed if I had to walk out of my way. And you want me to walk an avenue? Like, does that sound like. And everyone's probably going, ooh, what's that? That's called crafty. Can I have some of that?

[Kristin Davis]

Like, I mean, there's so many things that they think. But, yeah, New Yorkers are like, get.

[Peyton List]

Out of our way. Get out of our way. Because that's what I would revert into if I wasn't there for that.

[Kristin Davis]

But do you remember. Because I also remember this season as being particularly long hours. Do you remember that part of it all? Like. Like, we often shot all night, but you guys would have had your, you know, like, our requirements because of your age.

[Peyton List]

Right. And we also were. I mean, they were single. They were kind of single standalone scenes, and they were daytime scenes. So it was.

[Kristin Davis]

Good point.

[Peyton List]

A little bit more controlled in that way.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. We would have daytime scenes that we would do in the middle of the night, though, just FYI. But go ahead.

[Peyton List]

We're doing night for nighter.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. Because that one, when you're coming to the party is exterior.

[Peyton List]

It's exter.

[Kristin Davis]

Know the restaurant, for instance. But you would. When. When you're under 18, there are union rules about how long you can work.

[Peyton List]

Yeah. But I don't think I knew what those union rules were.

[Kristin Davis]

For sure. For sure. But we did. But you did.

[Peyton List]

Yeah. And I'm sure they were. I'm sure they were in place. But it also was. I didn't have a concept of what working hours were. Right. So, you know, your. Your experience of it not knowing anything is just, oh, you're there until you're done. You know, you just show up and you just.

[Kristin Davis]

That's amazing. Did you think it was fun?

[Peyton List]

I did think it was fun.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, good.

[Peyton List]

But I think a lot of that was also probably tied to being able to, like, work with other people your own age. Yeah. Because so much of that work, you're kind of. You're by yourself with a ton of adults.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Peyton List]

And while that is very comfortable, maybe it's just more fun when there's someone that you feel like you can look at and you're like, you know what I'm going through, right? Like, yeah. You know, you have an understanding.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Peyton List]

Yeah. So that was particularly fun because it was.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Were you in school?

[Peyton List]

I think we shot it over the summer, so I think that was.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, you were going to school. You weren't one of those kids who never went to school.

[Peyton List]

I was in a weird in between because there would be those kids who went to PCs that were like in that full time New York school where they were constantly pulled out. I was in school in Maryland where I was pulled out once, two times a week. So it was a weird arrangement that I had with my school to be able to do that. But that be. That was affected with other work later on a lot more than Sex and City being in the summertime.

[Kristin Davis]

Right, right, right.

[Peyton List]

And it just being, you know something, you're just like, I'll never get to do something like this again. Like the novelty of it just being like, what a cool adventure. I think my mother took a lot of pictures that she probably was not supposed to be taking. That's okay.

[Kristin Davis]

I don't think we controlled it very well back then. We didn't, we didn't have the. Because this is the season that we really like, in my experience at least jumped up a level in terms of popularity.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Like it first season, we shot the whole thing before it aired. It was just our little secret.

[Peyton List]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Second season, people kind of knew, but it was kind of niche.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, that's how I felt.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I've talked to other actors who were like, oh no, everyone wanted to be on that show. It was the biggest hit. It was the coolest show. We didn't necessarily. I didn't feel that way yet. Right, right.

[Peyton List]

It's how you experienced it and how that you sort of were dealing with the influx of popularity and all that. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

And I mean, what I remember is first season, second season, we still were trying so hard to promote it. Like, if anyone wanted to talk to us, we were like, yes, we'll talk to them for five hours. You know, whatever. It was like, whatever, just watch our show. Yeah, totally. Like get the word out. Whereas third season, it started to really have a life of its own and you didn't have to like beg people to talk to us anymore.

[Peyton List]

That's.

[Kristin Davis]

That's what I remember.

[Peyton List]

No, but I find that super interesting because, like, there's a number of shows that like maybe found their feet in season two or you feel like they really took off in season three and. Right. Watching that sort of evolution of when people start to realize it's a lot different than the thing that they felt they were doing initially.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

And I mean for us, we did get to evolve as a show too, which was really nice. Right. Like we got to change, you know, whether we were talking in camera, whether we had the people on the street and you know, there were things from the beginning that we got that changed as you went.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And we got into much more. And this is where you really see it happening. The long, the long story arc, like with Charlotte especially. This is my first time to have a long story arc like this. Right. Other than that you knew wanted to get married. Right. But now she actually is married. And what does that mean? And there's all these problems and you know, whatnot. Whereas for Carrie, this is kind of an interesting. This is the season where she's with Aiden but she cheats with big. Right. That's her big through line. But this is kind of a standalone season for her, which is fascinating. And also for Miranda, who gets braces, which I had no memory of. Okay. Like what.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

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[Peyton List]

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[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

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[Kristin Davis]

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[Kristin Davis]

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[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

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[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

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[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

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[Kristin Davis]

This is one of those ones where I was watching it and I felt like I was watching it for the first time. Like I.

[Peyton List]

You didn't remember any of that stuff.

[Kristin Davis]

What I do remember, I do not remember my storyline. Not one second, okay? Not one second. Like, I don't. If you had said to me, did you, you know, meaning our characters go to therapy? I would have been like, no, what.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Are you talking about?

[Kristin Davis]

Like, I don't know. I think I was so exhausted and like low level overwhelmed that some of it I'm just like, I don't, I don't know. What. I don't know if I was in my body, honestly, I just don't know.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

I don't know.

[Kristin Davis]

Do you know what I mean?

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Well.

[Peyton List]

And sometimes you'll just never have an explanation as to why some stuff doesn't stick.

[Kristin Davis]

I watch myself in it and it, and it, I, it seems fine, but I just don't have any memory. I'll tell you what I have a memory of and I, I kind of wanted, if I'd had time, I would have researched this. You know how some New York summers are super hot.

[Peyton List]

You literally melt into the sidewalk, right? You become fused with the sort of tar that's soft, right?

[Kristin Davis]

And the summer before had been. And we would film in the summer, we would start in February where it was cold and then we would film all summer pretty much to get, you know, however many. 18, 21, whatever it is that we did. 18 and you know, by the end it was baking hot.

[Peyton List]

Right? Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I believe, and I could be wrong, I believe that they wrote this episode Hot Child in the City based on the fact that the summer before was really, really hot. And then so, and we are, we were working, right? So like we would just be sweaty, sweaty, sweaty in our hair, my frizzy.

[Peyton List]

My impression of the show. And I don't know if this was like true or not because I wasn't watching it consistently then because I just didn't have hbo. But yeah. Is that, like, there was a lot of location. Like, it doesn't look like a show that was on stage that much.

[Kristin Davis]

It's true. I mean, that was by design. And there were some times. Because our apartments would all be sets. Right. Because we had to have some controllable environments because of the weather and the this and that. And also money. It's so expensive to film on the locations.

[Peyton List]

Shutting down streets costs some. Costs some money.

[Kristin Davis]

A lot of money. And also this episode, this season is the big season. We got the Staten island ferry. Like, we have big, big expensive locations, which is how we would like to roll at all times. You know, that's our. That's our vibe. But there would be times when we'd be over budget and we would move back inside. And then I remember vividly a few times, Sarah Jessica saying, this is not okay. This is not our show. We need to be on the street. You need to be able to see our shoes. You need to push the cameras.

[Peyton List]

You're losing the city part.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, exactly. And she was so right. But of course, it's always a balance, you know?

[Peyton List]

Well, but then you're also at the mercy of the elements. Like scorching summers, where you know, it's like poor hair and makeup trying to.

[Kristin Davis]

I know it.

[Peyton List]

Deal with the heat and the sweat.

[Kristin Davis]

But the thing that. I love looking back at it, like, you know, sometimes Sarah's hair has that level of frizz on it. It's so gorgeous. It's like, almost like a halo.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Over her head. You know what I'm saying? Like, for Charlotte, no one would ever accept that I would have frizz. Though I do have wavy hair in one scene, which I was always really pushing for because I just didn't want to wear that same straight hair all the time.

[Peyton List]

I understand.

[Kristin Davis]

I would get bored. You know what I mean?

[Peyton List]

I understand. From someone with straight hair, I really.

[Kristin Davis]

Sympathize, you know, and everyone else loves it. But, like, for me, I was like, oh, my God, please just please let me do something different. So there's a scene, I think, at the beginning. Oh, remember when they say. We say cafeteria was the new. Oh, yeah, yeah, I do. I had forgotten all of the high school references in this.

[Peyton List]

I don't remember that at all. And so I did do the rewatch, and I was like, oh, my gosh, I didn't get any of these references. Or like, go give the guy your number. And that being so cute in high school, that just lost on me completely.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. And I feel like Sarah Jessica Parker, man, she was so leaned in.

[Peyton List]

She was so adorable.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, she's so adorable and giggly. Like, we very rarely see her.

[Peyton List]

Like.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, it was really, really enjoyable. And also the other interesting thing about this is it's directed by Michael Spiller. I don't know if you remember this. He was our director. He had been our dp.

[Peyton List]

Oh, really?

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Peyton List]

Okay.

[Kristin Davis]

Not from the very beginning, but close to the beginning. And I know that he'd wanted to direct, and I feel like he might have directed before this. I'm not sure. But what I was struck by watching it. First of all, there are a lot of cool shots, like when she ends up on the balcony with the guy, which we'll get into in their overhead, you know, and, like, there are a lot of cool shots. But also, I feel like everyone seemed very relaxed.

[Peyton List]

Interesting.

[Kristin Davis]

I really like that when I'm watching it. I mean, sometimes I can tell that, like, maybe sometimes I can remember times where things weren't relaxed and, you know, the writers and the director, or usually just the writers wanted us to do something. Do you know what I'm saying? And so I'm really. I can see myself trying to execute the idea that they want me to do.

[Peyton List]

There's like an extra pressure on that thing that you're trying to achieve.

[Kristin Davis]

And I can see it in my face, you know, or my voice or whatever. And then sometimes we just seem, like, relaxed and giggly, which. The whole episode, not counting me because I'm at the therapy, but everybody else, so relaxed and giggly. It was so charming.

[Peyton List]

I had this reaction, though, when I was watching, because obviously you're watching it years later, so you're watching it from a different perspective from life, but also coming from, like, New York at the time. Now when I watch it, I'm like, you know what? Back in New York, it does really stand out as this almost thing that was viewed as very childish to have, like, a comic book store for a grown man, be into comics and all this stuff. Whereas now, yes, it's universal. Every age, every guy. And we don't look at it as the guy who lives in his mom's apartment.

[Kristin Davis]

That's the other thing. It's so now.

[Peyton List]

It's so now that. But back then we would have. It's like, so normal how the friends reacted to.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, we were like, no, absolutely.

[Peyton List]

So just start. Contrast 100.

[Kristin Davis]

But now it's so accurate. Totally. Now, like, no one moves out from their parents house, apparently. This is what I read. I don't really know this age people, but, you know, 25 year olds or whatever.

[Peyton List]

Yeah. Most guys that you would meet in New York, New York, you know, if anything, they would seem older than they were. There was this sort of influence of wanting to fit into an adult grown up for the suit.

[Kristin Davis]

The tech bros or finance bros.

[Peyton List]

I remember, like, the last time I went back to New York for like a long period of time after I've been living in la and I'm like, everyone's wearing a suit.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Oh, yeah, this is.

[Kristin Davis]

It's funny.

[Peyton List]

It's really funny. And you're like actually looking at a guy and going, that's really. He's definitely younger than me, but he looks a lot more grown up than you know where.

[Kristin Davis]

That's even more true.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

London.

[Kristin Davis]

Really?

[Peyton List]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Gosh, they dress so well.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, certainly if you go to, you know, like central London, I mean, it's insane and intense and the suits are so beautiful, beautiful, beautiful. You're just like, whoa. But it's also like a little hard to, you know, how do you. How do you relate to that? I don't know. It's an interesting culture thing.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

But I do feel that way in.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

New York as well.

[Kristin Davis]

But also sometimes when I go to Beverly Hills, I'm like, wow, there's a lot of dudes suits here.

[Peyton List]

Yes. Yeah. You know, I. I've entered a place where people feel the need to wear a suit.

[Commercial Announcer]

Right.

[Peyton List]

But it's like in New York back then, seeing a guy who's like, T shirt, jeans.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. Especially he's got like surfer hair. Surfer hair, yeah.

[Peyton List]

Yeah. And how you would sort of. I don't know if it was like just culture society. How you would like, put him in a more juvenile. Yes. Don't take it seriously category.

[Kristin Davis]

For sure. But clearly Carrie likes this.

[Commercial Announcer]

Right?

[Kristin Davis]

Like, I'm gonna do something different.

[Peyton List]

But those were the questions they were asking. They're like, are you really comfortable dating the guy? And she's like, right.

[Kristin Davis]

And good for her because she has such a good time with him and it's so cute. But the thing about the heat, the reason that I remember it is because they have that scene on the balcony where they get the hose out. And I remember that it was actually chilly.

[Peyton List]

Oh, what? Oh, of course it was.

[Kristin Davis]

Of course it was. This is what I remember. I do not remember anything that I did, but I remember that I was concerned that Sarah Jessica and this guy were gonna have to get wet when it was chilly, when it was supposed to be hot.

[Peyton List]

Yeah. The silliness it's just so par for the course though, isn't it? If it's supposed to be hot, it's to supposed freezing cold.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly. And then we did write when we did and just like that we wrote a big snow scene. And then the year we were filming there was no snow of course, you know what I mean? So we had to manufacture all of it.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

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[Kristin Davis]

Lets you chat with people in the back without yelling.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

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[Kristin Davis]

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[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

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[Kristin Davis]

Ripped right out of a magazine in 2007 and never got over.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Yeah, those.

[Kristin Davis]

It's about the thrill and the pursuit.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Of finding those pieces that feel like you.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

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[Kristin Davis]

So let's talk about do you have any memories about your fittings? I'm always curious about young people coming into our world. But you were modeling, so you're probably used to a lot of.

[Peyton List]

And I think that's probably why I don't have a memory of it.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Right.

[Peyton List]

I. It probably resembled to a degree like any other fitting. Probably. I genuinely don't have any memory. I remember my wardrobe.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Peyton List]

And I remember it was. I can't say it was the first time, but it was. There was definitely like wardrobe malfunctioning happening.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh no.

[Peyton List]

Because. Because these cloth, these clothes are not. These clothes are meant to be seen. They're not meant to be like functional.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Peyton List]

And my top did not want to stay on.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh no.

[Peyton List]

And it was just like I was so used to as a kid, you know, if they're just like, oh, these jeans don't fit you right, we'll cut the seam through the middle where your rear end is and stick a sock in it. And like that's what you're gonna wear. We will never see you from the back.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Peyton List]

So that kind of just. Where's the Scotch tape? Or just clip it. You're used to that. But with that being live action, I guess you'd say, like, yeah, they were double stick taping the top on because the straps were breaking. And you're getting in and out of that limo over and over again. And I definitely had a. Oh, no. A moment where I'm like, wow, there's a lot of people here. I think I might have flashed them. I don't know.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God. At 13.

[Peyton List]

Yeah, but you're used to. Yeah, but you're also just like. I mean, yeah, you're a little bit self conscious, but you're also like, well, it's summertime in New York and the tape failed. And.

[Kristin Davis]

Well, that's a good attitude.

[Peyton List]

That's a good. Because there's nothing else you can do.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, I'm sure it was either a. Like a sample or I think it probably Right. Or a vintage. Right. You can't remember exactly what you're like.

[Peyton List]

Maybe it goes down a Runway or a catwalk, but it doesn't go in and out of limos 37 times. Real life. Yeah, real life. Yeah, for sure.

[Kristin Davis]

For sure. For sure. So you remember you did a lot of takes.

[Peyton List]

I remember. Yeah, I remember there was a lot of takes for that. But it also just took a while because I think they had to keep, like, circling the block to do the. However they shot the arrival. Like, I think they were shooting huge, huge wide masters and stuff of that. So we were. That just took a while to reset over and over again. When I watch it. When I watched it back, I'm like, you just see the door just roll up.

[Kristin Davis]

I know.

[Peyton List]

I think it was just. But I think that's not. Feel like. And again, my memory feel like that's not how they shot it. Like they shot more of the.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, I'm sure.

[Peyton List]

The car coming up and they've got all those cars around. They've got a reset and all that. So.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Peyton List]

I remember that being like a lot of takes and getting that right and having all the young people that were.

[Kristin Davis]

The extras that were excited to see you.

[Peyton List]

Yeah, yeah. Because you're not just dealing with, like, adult extras. You're also dealing with teenagers and just getting that. Just getting that right.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. Yeah, yeah. It can be so patience challenging, you know, like.

[Peyton List]

Totally. But that's also where it's sort of ignorance is bliss if you're not used to that world because you're just like, I have no idea how many times we're doing this. If you go, right, we're gonna be doing this for three hours. So, like, settle in. If you'd known that going in, you might be like, oh, but when you don't know it, it's just. No.

[Kristin Davis]

And also, I mean, the fun is you were together with other young people, and you guys can just chat and whatever.

[Peyton List]

Exactly. I'm sure we were pretty annoying at times for some of the PAs.

[Kristin Davis]

But that's okay.

[Peyton List]

That's okay. That's all right.

[Kristin Davis]

That's all right.

[Peyton List]

I mean, you're like, we feel bad, but not really.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Commercial Announcer]

No.

[Kristin Davis]

Why would you feel bad?

[Peyton List]

You know, we're just, like, so chatty, and we're just being silly and.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, yeah, that's their job, to be annoyed.

[Peyton List]

You know, just to be annoyed.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Peyton List]

Put up with us, please. Sorry. Sorry.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay, let's talk about the plot. Let's talk about the plot. Okay, so we see Carrie. She wants to go to a leather store to have her shoes fixed.

[Podcast Host]

Right.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Is that right?

[Kristin Davis]

And then it's the comic book store.

[Peyton List]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Which is so. So how New York is.

[Peyton List]

It's so neat. I was just thinking that it's so New York when you're like, oh, I'm gonna. Where'd it go?

[Kristin Davis]

I know.

[Peyton List]

No, I love that place.

[Kristin Davis]

You're like, wait, did I imagine that?

[Peyton List]

It always happened with me with restaurants, and it would just be heartbreaking because at the restaurants, you have memories, and you want to go back there and have that. Yeah, I agree.

[Kristin Davis]

I lived on the Upper west side for a long time, which, of course, is not, you know, the hot spot anymore. But every single time I'd go back, if I was gone, the rest would be different. It would be so sad. Oh, so frustrating.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

But what can you do?

[Kristin Davis]

It's ever changing. This is how it is. This is the.

[Peyton List]

Well, and also the places that you're. You feel dependent on, like, your shoe repair guy, and you're like, what do you mean he's not here?

[Kristin Davis]

Totally. Absolutely. Especially for Carrie.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Shoe repair. Very, very important. Very, very important.

[Kristin Davis]

So she goes down. She has a very charming conversation with this guy at this store. I'm like, wow, you're very, like. I just don't even know if that would happen now.

[Peyton List]

No. Right. It would. I mean, I def. It doesn't happen in my life. But, like, also the. The ease at which she has that conversation with a stranger and a guy that she's like, he's attractive. And I Know, I feel like also.

[Kristin Davis]

Because it's this tiny store.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. So it kind of feels safe, but.

[Peyton List]

At the same time. Yeah. Like when you're watching it, you're like, it's totally natural. And you're going, oh, if that were real life with me, it would be like, like I'm gonna count how many times I'm making eye contact with this person.

[Kristin Davis]

Would you think that?

[Peyton List]

No, it'd be like, what is it? You know, like really assessing. Assessing a safe situation and stuff like that.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, right, right. I mean, yeah, it's been a. I can't. I don't. I'm trying to think of the last time that I would have gotten into a whole very, very long conversation with the stranger in a store. I can't think of when it would be.

[Peyton List]

Right. There's not a whole lot of people around.

[Commercial Announcer]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, that's the other adorable kind of thing is like, it's like a street level, you know, adorable tiny store with like two. Two 15 year old boys or whatever who are just like goggling. Carrie totally in her adorable outfit. And this is the much discussed Chanel top that then she wore later, but in a slightly different color way. I believe that when I was looking, I was like, no, no, that might be the same one. It's very confusing. But we re. Wore this in. And just like that.

[Peyton List]

Was that an issue?

[Kristin Davis]

No, it was a good thing.

[Peyton List]

It was a good thing.

[Kristin Davis]

It was much discussed.

[Peyton List]

Okay, okay.

[Kristin Davis]

But the funny thing about it, I kind of recognize it. It's a very specific Chanel with like blobs of color. Right.

[Peyton List]

A lot of color.

[Kristin Davis]

And she had worn it backwards in the first show, which is a very Sarah Jessica thing. She loves things backwards or upside down or whatever. Mismatch. She likes that. And so you can see the little Chanel tag.

[Peyton List]

Yeah, yeah, I remember, I remember when I just rewatched it, I saw that tag there and I was like, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Cause she's wearing it backwards. She's so funny. But then, so then she's got Carrie's clothes in storage.

[Peyton List]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

And they didn't go back and get it out. But Molly Rogers, our costume designer, got a call from a vintage place that she knows downtown. And they said, oh, we have a. We have an amazing group of clothes that are from Karen Ellison's personal clothes. The model, the red headed model. Beautiful red. You recognize her?

[Peyton List]

I'm sure I would.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm very 90s 2000.

[Peyton List]

Yeah, yeah, I'm sure if I saw.

[Kristin Davis]

Incredible woman, used to be married to Jack White. Not that I should be talking about her personal life, but just. Just side note. And she. So. So Molly went down there, and at the bottom of this basically suitcase was this Chanel top. Slightly different colors or else maybe faded, I'm sure. And Molly recognized it because Molly's been our costume designer forever. So she got it, and then Sarah Jessica wore it again on. And just like that turned around, so it's just the scoop neck without the tag. And then there's a whole drama. Did she get it out? Is it hers? Where did it come from? Is it the same one? Is it a different one? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Many conversations. But I love that, you know. I love that, you know, the clothes are interesting enough that you could even have a conversation about it.

[Peyton List]

Well. And I don't think there was anything on television where a woman was wearing clothes like that.

[Kristin Davis]

No, it just.

[Peyton List]

It wasn't network.

[Kristin Davis]

It wasn't.

[Peyton List]

Do you know what I mean? It wasn't gone through the sort of all the approval steps that what is acceptable to everyone.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Right.

[Peyton List]

It was just someone with creative fashion.

[Kristin Davis]

We did have a little bit of that. Like, we did have Michael Patrick, I think, will admit himself that sometimes he would be. He would be a naysayer. He would. He would say, like, no, she wouldn't wear that. And Pat Field would be like, she would. You know, and. And then it would be a whole. A whole power struggle. And. Because Sarah Jessica was on the side with Pat usually and really wanted to push the boundaries in a way that she thought was true to that character and true to those women.

[Peyton List]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Who were living this life and borrowing things. I mean, Candace Bushnell is borrowing things, you know, Even though. Because people say, like, well, how could she afford it? Well, she's not affording all of it. She's borrowing stuff.

[Peyton List]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

You may not be seeing her going.

[Peyton List]

Sample sales.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly. Sample sales.

[Peyton List]

Sample sales.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely. There's so many creative ways. And at the time, there was century 21, way down on the. Do you remember? Oh, my gosh.

[Peyton List]

I remember it so vividly. Oh, my gosh.

[Kristin Davis]

What a special place.

[Peyton List]

But then it was like, are you gonna go down there? Because it was a. It was a journey. It was a field trip to go.

[Kristin Davis]

It was. You got a way at the tip, way downtown, and it was a big place, and you had to work hard to find the good things in the big place. It wasn't like they were like, hello, here's the Chloe Tight you were looking for. No, it was like, really, like hit and miss.

[Peyton List]

No. Yeah. It was, it was. You had to go in with a loose plan that could adapt. But it was like, if people are going to like, Ikea or I guess, like now, like an H M where there's so much stuff, and if you're looking for one thing, you're like, you have to pace yourself. You have to go in caffeinated. You have to be ready, you know what I mean? Have a meltdown and leave.

[Kristin Davis]

Definitely, definitely, definitely. And Molly said she was there so much that people would ask her where the belts were. They thought she worked there. Yeah. But we got incredible, incredible things there. I mean, it was the only way that we could because we were borrowing stuff by this point in the show. But we had started with a tiny budget, you know, so they just had to be super creative as well.

[Peyton List]

Yeah, yeah. And you have to be.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, Everyone. Everyone in New York has to be super creative. Okay, so Carrie goes in. She meets this adorable guy with this, like, surfer hair who has a comic store which is also really entertaining and funny, but much more niche back then. Like it was before Marvel was like, that's.

[Peyton List]

That's the funny thing. Seeing it now, it was so, like, niche. And you're like, oh, wow, if they only knew.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly, exactly. I hope he kept that store going serious, that guy. And then they. So they go to. On a date to barcode. I feel like barcode is still there.

[Peyton List]

Do you think?

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, it's still there. Amazing.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And so obviously not Carrie's normal vibe.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

But she's having such a good time.

[Peyton List]

It's perfect. Like, what they're doing the story.

[Kristin Davis]

They're doing. Absolutely. And when she gets on that scooter in the street, I mean, honestly, I don't remember any of this at all. When she gets on that scooter. I mean. Hello.

[Peyton List]

How. How did she not fall over?

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Well, I.

[Kristin Davis]

Because I know her. I'm not, I'm not. Didn't even think for a second she was going to fall over. Because I know her, she can do anything in those heels. But the thing that made me laugh, like, think about E scooters now. Like, this is so prescient. Our whole episode is so.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Timely.

[Peyton List]

Those scooters, I remember, remember, had a real moment. Like everywhere there was razor. Yeah, razor scooters, you know, that would fold up and they'd.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, yeah. My kids went through a big razor phase.

[Peyton List]

I mean, they were so popular, I think, especially right around that time.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. It's so funny that this guy is on a scooter and has a Comic book store. He's really ahead of his time. You know, at the time we all.

[Peyton List]

Did we not realize.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, we all criticize him, but he was right. Right on the pulse. Right on the pulse of things to come. So she adorably goes on a date with him and goes scootering.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

And then he says he.

[Kristin Davis]

Do you want to come over to my impressive apartment with the view? Little does she know, they go to like an unbelievable. You don't see the whole apartment. Okay. You mostly see the balcony, but they've basically got like a view of, of everything.

[Peyton List]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, it's very intense. And she says a brief side, but I feel like. Like you can see the river. Like, I feel like it's on the east river, but it looks like.

[Peyton List]

I thought in my head, I'm like, it's a view of the park, but it's.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, it might have been. I don't pay more attention. I feel like, I feel like over. Across the water is Brooklyn. Do you know what I mean?

[Peyton List]

Yeah. But I also, I, I believe you because in my head, I could have just dropped in. Whatever I thought.

[Kristin Davis]

Of course, your own background.

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Well, because the way the balcony looks, it looks like the traditional buildings. That would be over on 5th, right? Yeah, right. But I don't know if it is. I don't know if it is. And I, I wasn't there obviously, physically, so I have no idea. But so they go. And she's wondering, you know how he has this incredible apartment, which is so adorable, and then we find out that it is because he lives with his mom and she's adorable.

[Peyton List]

She's so cute. She's so cute. So cute.

[Kristin Davis]

And she wants to give them lemonade and whatnot, which is also really funny and weird. And he's really accepting of it all, which is all. Like, how old is he?

[Peyton List]

I want to know in how old's the character? Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Do we ever say.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

I don't think we do.

[Peyton List]

I think he's definitely at least mid-30s. Right?

[Kristin Davis]

He's gotta be.

[Peyton List]

He's gotta be.

[Kristin Davis]

It's so interesting how I feel like.

[Peyton List]

The, the age was referenced multiple times where. Yeah, because I think because of the Miranda character storyline about the braces and everything where she's. I, I was surprised how many times that she's like, we're. There's the 13 year olds and we're 34, 35 or whatever it was that. I don't remember that being such a reference before.

[Kristin Davis]

It was a reference because back at this time we were considered Old.

[Peyton List]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Which is really laugh out loud funny. I mean, we're 33 and we're talking.

[Peyton List]

About, like, that's what sort of like society conditions you have to place that.

[Kristin Davis]

We weren't wrong. We were wrong. That was very true. True for us back then. Yeah. But that's partly why we talk about it so much, you know, like now. I don't think anyone frowns on anybody getting braces at any age.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

No.

[Peyton List]

And it's also a lot more common.

[Kristin Davis]

More common, right. Like, tremendously more common, actually.

[Peyton List]

When I see adults with braces, I'm like, you don't have a fear of commitment? You know, like, I just going, good for you. Like, I feel like if someone to me said, you need braces now, I'd be like, I just don't know. Like, I think I'm just gonna just stick. Yeah. I just don't know. I'm like, that seems like a lot of commitment. Like, when you were teenagers.

[Kristin Davis]

My daughter has braces. It's a lot of commitment. I love her orthodontist.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Thank goodness.

[Kristin Davis]

We look forward to seeing Dr. Esther. But it is a lot of commitment.

[Peyton List]

Yeah. And I feel like with the adults that do it, you're.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, yeah. You know, you're making some time.

[Peyton List]

You're making some time and.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Peyton List]

And you're like, that's self love. That's.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Peyton List]

Like, good. Good for you.

[Podcast Host]

Definitely.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

I agree.

[Peyton List]

I don't know if I totally.

[Kristin Davis]

I agree totally. So Carrie. Carrie does discuss this young man or whatever. I don't know if he's younger. I mean, I did not feel like he was our age, though. When I was watching it. I felt like maybe he was late 20s.

[Peyton List]

I was younger.

[Kristin Davis]

Say, he just seems younger. I mean, but obviously he's living with his mom.

[Peyton List]

Made references to his age being younger.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Peyton List]

Like, if they were discussing, like, you're dating a guy who's. They're like, yeah, but he's younger.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Peyton List]

But I feel like it was the sort of comparison of, like, the point.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, we don't really say that. Yeah, we don't really say that. But he does own his own shop.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

So it's not like he's a total whatever. You know what I mean?

[Peyton List]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

You guys, this is so much fun that we are gonna have to have a part two.

[Charlotte (Podcast Co-host)]

So join us later in the week on Rus Charlotte.

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