Great Scott! Adam Scott on Trey, Harry and if he’s a Charlotte!... (S3 E1 "Where There's Smoke")

Summary

Podcast Summary: Are You A Charlotte?

Episode: Great Scott! Adam Scott on Trey, Harry and if he’s a Charlotte!... (S3 E1 "Where There's Smoke")

Host: Kristin Davis
Guest: Adam Scott
Date: October 22, 2025

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Episode Overview

In this engaging episode, Kristin Davis (“Charlotte York” from Sex and the City) welcomes Adam Scott (Parks and Recreation, Severance) to dissect Season 3, Episode 1: "Where There’s Smoke.” Their conversation dives into behind-the-scenes stories, the evolution of Charlotte’s character, the dynamics of guest stars and boyfriends, and how the show's themes remain relevant. Adam and Kristin explore not just plot points, but the emotional truths of the characters, memorable scenes, and how their own experiences connect to the Sex and the City universe.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Spotlight on Guest Stars & Filming Challenges

[03:45–05:16]

• Kristin and Adam discuss John Slattery’s performance as a guest star and why he declined to appear on the podcast.
  • “His superpower is when you watch Slattery, you’re just so at ease as an audience member.” — Adam Scott [03:52]
• Kristin reflects on how guest-starring as a boyfriend on the show was unusual and sometimes uncomfortable for male actors, flipping the typical “guest girlfriend” script.
  • Adam: “It was emasculating for them possibly.” [05:16]
  • Kristin: “As women, we were very used to being the guest star girlfriend...but they were not so used to being the guest star boyfriend.” [05:00]
• Behind-the-scenes: Shooting the Staten Island ferry scenes was a logistical challenge. Multiple takes, seasickness, shooting overnight, and keeping continuity while freezing in February outfits.

Charlotte’s Determination and Storyline Arcs

[06:37–08:24]

• Kristin describes the intentional creative shift that made Charlotte hyper-focused on marriage for Season 3.
  • “This is when they had sat me down and said...we want Charlotte to really decide that she wants to get married this year. And she's going to do whatever it takes. And she's gonna be like a heat-seeking missile...” — Kristin Davis [06:38]
• Original plans for Charlotte’s arc involved her marrying a “perfect but boring” guy, but Kyle MacLachlan (Trey) changed things up due to his charisma.
• Adam wonders if Trey’s impotence storyline replaced the initial idea of “boring perfection” — Kristin agrees, noting how the show evolved as actors left stronger impressions than planned.

Planning for the Future: Symbols and Foreshadowing

[09:51–10:44]

• Kristin notes wardrobe decisions were forms of foreshadowing: the writers put crosses on Charlotte (even before her interfaith marriage arc was plotted), a hint at future plotlines.
  • “I remember they started pushing these crosses on me—I have a diamond cross coming... I think they already knew, but I don't think I knew that whole part.” — Kristin Davis [09:51]

Filming on 90s TV: Episode Output and Pace

[10:44–11:12]

• Discussion of old TV seasons being much longer (21+ episodes) compared to today, with grueling five-day shoots.
  • “We did like 21 or something. Like in the olden days. You know what I mean?” — Kristin Davis [10:44]
  • “We shot four days [on Party Down]... It was crazy town.” — Adam Scott [10:55–11:10]

Character Arcs and Iconic Moments: Firemen, Rescue Fantasies & Female Friendship

[11:12–15:11]

• Recapping Carrie's heartbreak over Big’s engagement and meeting Slattery’s character on Staten Island.
• Samantha’s “firehouse” storyline and her hilarious encounter with a not-so-hunky fireman.
  • “And then she's like, shut up, just—hysterically funny.” — Kristin Davis [13:48]
• Charlotte’s hungover “Where is he?” moment, which became classic.
  • “I've been dating since I was 15. Where is he? My hair hurts, you know, which was so great.” — Kristin Davis [14:34]
• Thematic focus on women’s rescue fantasies, hero worship, and independence.
  • Adam on the coffee shop “fireman” scene: “It's so interesting that once you guys all sort of land on that, everyone stops talking for a minute and just kind of absorbs this reality...” [15:11]

Dancing, Freedom, and Feminine Joy

[16:04–21:47]

• Kristin reminisces about Charlotte’s iconic solo dance, noting it was set to a “cheap” (i.e., affordable to license) unknown song.
  • “Charlotte sets herself free and has a funny dance to like a weird song…” — Kristin Davis [16:04]
• Both share how choreographers were brought in for any dancing on set due to nerves.

Evergreen Themes & Cultural Impact

[21:47–26:09]

• The show’s major themes—empowerment, the desire to be rescued, chosen family—are still relevant.
  • Adam: “Everything in the show is evergreen, don't you think?” [22:00]
  • Kristin: “Do women still want to be rescued? Yeah, I kind of feel like they do.” [21:55]
• The conversation examines Charlotte’s balance between craving the fantasy and thriving in real partnership, noting Harry’s love for her practical independence.

Auditions, Casting Stories & Industry Insight

[26:31–28:28]

• Kristin tells the story of how Evan Handler was cast as Harry, outshining another finalist thanks to a memorable, crumb-dropping muffin audition.
• Both compare audition stories and the rise of “self-tapes” in casting today.

More Highlights from Season 3

[28:40–30:51]

• Further discussion of Samantha’s firehouse story, including being left in the firehouse half-naked “very brave.”
• Miranda’s independence and the story of refusing help during her Lasik surgery, and how her relationship with Steve is built on their opposites-attract dynamic.
  • “Miranda wakes up and takes the goggles off and she can see clearly and then she puts…she sees him clearly. It's incredible. It's so cool.” — Kristin Davis [32:41]

Attention to Detail & Continuity

[30:51–32:29]

• Kristin and Adam exchange stories about set consistency, like repeat use of restaurant menus, and the technicalities of hitting marks in public NYC shoots.
  • “As actors, I mean, because we understand why. But, like, you guys on Severance could never get away with any [such slip-ups].” — Kristin Davis [31:33]

Chosen Family & Lasting Legacy

[39:57–41:17]

• Adam and Kristin discuss the real heart of the show: four women supporting each other, not pitted against one another—a revolutionary concept for its time.

  • Adam: “It’s a little micro moment of what the show really earns and builds, which is these four women are bulletproof when they’re together. They’ll do anything for each other.” [40:00]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “I think that the sort of resistance of Miranda and the sort of isolation of Miranda that she kind of thought was her ethos and then eventually discovered was not. I kind of connected to that.” — Adam Scott [42:13]
• “And over time, some people tell me, like, ‘Well, when I first started, I was a Carrie, and then I kind of went through my Charlotte phase, and now I’m divorced—I’m in my Samantha phase.’ And I'm like, that's cool. It's all good.” — Kristin Davis [43:01]
• “You walking home and the voiceover saying she knew if she would turn around…Really good. It was really good.” — Adam Scott [38:49–38:56]

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Who’s a Charlotte?

[41:36–43:56]

• Kristin asks Adam Scott if he’s a Charlotte.
• Adam confesses he's most like a Miranda due to his “resistance” and initial isolation, but relates to all the characters in some way:
  • “Any answer is, except I feel like I'm a Miranda…I think that Miranda…She kind of thought was her ethos and then eventually discovered was not. I kind of connected to that.” — Adam Scott [41:49; 42:13]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:45 — John Slattery’s guest run and casting insights
• 06:37 — Charlotte’s marriage arc begins
• 08:07 — Trey: From “boring” to “charismatic and complicated”
• 12:03 — Samantha’s firemen storyline
• 14:33 — Charlotte’s hungover “Where is he?” classic scene
• 15:11 — Coffee shop “rescue” discussion
• 16:04 — Charlotte’s solo dance: freedom and fun
• 21:47 — Do women still want to be rescued?
• 26:31 — How Evan Handler (Harry) was cast
• 30:51 — Recurring restaurant menus and filming continuity
• 32:38 — Miranda wakes up from Lasik (Steve & Miranda sweetness)
• 39:57 — The true legacy: friendship and support
• 41:36 — Adam: Is he a Charlotte? (Adam says he’s a Miranda)

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Closing Thoughts

This episode is rich with nostalgia, insider stories, and thoughtful reflection about how Sex and the City changed TV, especially for women. Adam’s genuine fandom and Kristin’s candor make for irresistible listening—peppered with laughter, behind-the-scenes trivia, and honest talk about modern relationships.

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Summary prepared for those who want depth, delight, and direct connection to the episode’s spirit—whether or not you’re a Charlotte.

Transcript

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[Kristin Davis]

Hi, I'm Kristen Davis and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? And here we are back with the fantastic Adam Scott. We are going to recap season three, episode one, Where There's Smoke, written and directed by Michael Patrick King. So here I am and this is what we've decided to do because, I mean, you guys recap on your show, on your podcast about your show, but you also play the scenes. Right. But we don't do that. Right. Okay, so we. What I'd like to do is I talk about the characters through line rather than like bopping around. Yeah. Is that cool? So the thing that I love about this, first of all, do you know Slattery?

[Adam Scott]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

Isn't he fantastic?

[Adam Scott]

He's so good on Sex in the City.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

So you, you. That's one of the. His superpowers, I think, is when you watch Slattery, you're just so at ease as an audience member.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely.

[Adam Scott]

He just, he's got this, like, you don't have to.

[Kristin Davis]

It's incredible. He only doesn't even have any hardly lines. Like, it's crazy.

[Adam Scott]

He's such a presence, and it's hard to believe that was even written. It feels like it's come. He's just great, right? He's great.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. He's so incredible.

[Adam Scott]

You want to be together.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. You want them to be together.

[Adam Scott]

Until the thing happens. Until the thing happens, which is the next episode.

[Kristin Davis]

I think it's coming because I haven't seen it yet. I haven't seen it yet. But also I asked him to be on the pod and he said no. And sometimes I'm like, why do they say no? And then I forget what the guys had to do. Like, sometimes they had to do kind of ick things.

[Adam Scott]

Right, Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Maybe they don't want to talk about it. I don't know. And then, like different co stars who have come on guest stars tell us, like, oh, yes. You know, now I'm still asked about it, you know, but that'.

[Adam Scott]

The story was about the women and think about all the dumb stuff women had to do over the years as.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you, Adam.

[Adam Scott]

You know what I mean?

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, I do.

[Adam Scott]

Come on.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, I do.

[Adam Scott]

We can take. Take a few.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you so much. Thank you so much. I do think, I think it's weird in that I think for them and I think at the time we were somewhat aware that it was odd for them to come in and that guest star way of like the boyfriend. Because as women, we were very used to being the guest star girlfriend. Right. But they were not so used to being the guest star boyfriend.

[Adam Scott]

So it was emasculating for them possibly.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, I've never used that word to them. I've just said, was it weird or uncomfortable? And they were like, yeah, kind of. Yeah, yeah. And the thing I was gonna say that reminded me when I watched this, and I remember this time, you know, very well, because it was when things really were like clicking and happening and, you know, that first week was so hard and we were on the Staten island ferry. And I remember all of us are like, oh my God, we're on the Staten island ferry. And we had to keep turning it around so that the background would match, you know, so that city would match. Remember how we're talking about, like, look at how small it looks. Right. That was really fun. But when we're going and we're talking about like, look at how small the is is and it has all of our ex boyfriends on it. And so we had to keep turning the ferry around and the ferry's huge. People were throwing up over the side, you know.

[Adam Scott]

So are you get seasick on the ferry?

[Kristin Davis]

I don't, but other people did.

[Adam Scott]

You do? Oh, wow.

[Kristin Davis]

Because you don't normally turn it around.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah. You're not on it for that long.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. It is too big to keep, you know, circling back or whatever. Like how we had to do. And that was an all nighter. I mean, so bad. Like, till the sun came up. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And luckily I just had to act crazy for that other one. But I don't really remember that as well. It's funny because I think as an actor, like, you have to check out a little bit when you're gonna act all crazy like that. But it's adorable to watch. I do remember being cold because we would go back in February, but still have to probably be wearing our little dresses. Right. But at least in this one we get to talk about it.

[Adam Scott]

Yes, yes, that's right.

[Kristin Davis]

And I literally am like, I'm so cold. Which I probably just begged them, please let me say it because I've got to hold on to Sarah Jessica. I'm freezing for on the water in February, for God's sake. You know. But it was. It was really. It was fun times. But the thing that I think. So when I look at in. In terms of. Let's talk about Charlotte for a second. This is when they had sat me down and said, you know, this is when we want Charlotte to really decide that she wants to get married this year. And she's going to do whatever it takes. And she's gonna be like a heat seeking missile, you know, like. And soon I'm gonna get the book. Like, I have a book that's gonna talk about how to get married or whatever. Like craziness. Right.

[Adam Scott]

Cause is it in the next episode where you're like, where is he?

[Kristin Davis]

It's this one.

[Adam Scott]

Okay.

[Kristin Davis]

It's this one. Yeah. Which is great. Which is a great scene. And so I was all down for it because I KN that culturally women are. Are like this. Women are fed this thing, you know, about, you know, getting married and having the perfect.

[Adam Scott]

And you only have this one window and then.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly. And all of that I don't personally feel. Didn't feel then, but I certainly knew a lot of people did. And I felt like, this is great. And I also knew that it wasn't gonna work out.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

But the plan, the original plan was that Charlotte was gonna be like, you know, on it, on it, on it. I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. I'm gonna look at it like a job. I'm gonna, you know, all these crazy things I'd say. And they'd all roll their eyes at me. You know what I.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Going to work.

[Kristin Davis]

And the idea was that I was going to find this guy. This. Before we knew it was Kyle, I was going to find this guy and Trey. Trey.

[Adam Scott]

Good, good.

[Kristin Davis]

And I was going to find him. And he was going to look perfect. Right. So everything was going to look perfect. But then everyone was going to think he was the most boring thing ever. You know, like when one of your friends marry somebody, you don't really love them. And, like, the other friends are like, you go talk to them. He's going to be like that.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

But then it was Kyle.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And Kyle is not boring. Too damn interesting. So then we all collectively fell in love with Kyle. And he stayed longer than he was ever supposed to stay. Do you know what I mean? But we still had to let him go.

[Adam Scott]

So was the impotence thing a replacement for the boring thing?

[Kristin Davis]

I think it was. I'd have to ask Michael Patrick that, but I think so I know, I know. Who would have seen that coming?

[Adam Scott]

Because you can build the perfect life around it. And the impotence thing could be a secret.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

Which ends up being right. And so. But Charlotte is so dedicated to this idea that and all appearances were her dream come true.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

But there's this corruption at the middle of it.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

You can't do. There's nothing to be done about it.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

And then the them getting back together and does it go into season four?

[Kristin Davis]

You know what? I don't even know. I mean, because that's what I was gonna say, too. I only watched these back in the day when we were making them.

[Adam Scott]

Seeing them for the first time.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes. Oh, wow. Sometimes I don't remember. Sometimes I remember everything. Right.

[Adam Scott]

It's weird. I watch see when someone see Parks and Rec, and I do not remember filming that. And it's a very weird.

[Kristin Davis]

Isn't it weird? Like sometimes I'm like, what am I about to do?

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Am I gonna make out with these people?

[Adam Scott]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Are you gonna have a threesome? Right? You're like, oh, my God, am I gonna. And no, it was a dream. I didn't. Because I was like, I don't remember having a threesome. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah, it was very scary. But, I mean, there's some things I remember crystal clear.

[Adam Scott]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

You know, like you' that day or what was happening off camera or whatever. But when we start this episode, I see that I'm wearing a cross. So I also think that Michael, Patrick and Darren already planned that the first marriage wasn't going to work out. And then I was going to fall in love with the Jewish guy and convert because I had never worn a cross before. But I remember they started pushing these crosses on me. I have a diamond cross coming. I'm wearing like a old fashioned looking cross at the beginning of this episode. Like, they already knew, but I don't think I knew that whole part or if I did, I kind of was just more focused on the Kyle of it all, you know, once that came.

[Adam Scott]

Because Harry's definitely not till season four or five. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

I feel like. I feel like. I mean, I also feel like in my mind, I know we kept Kyle longer than we were supposed to, but I don't know that we kept him all that long. And I think this season we do like 21 or something. Like in the olden days. You know what I mean?

[Adam Scott]

Wild. So many episodes, right?

[Kristin Davis]

So many. Like, like, I'm sure you guys did that on Parks and rec too.

[Ryan Seacrest]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

22.

[Kristin Davis]

Crazy.

[Adam Scott]

It's crazy. It's crazy to think shoot them in five days.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. Which is also insane.

[Adam Scott]

Insane.

[Kristin Davis]

Insane.

[Adam Scott]

I did a show. Party down. We shot. We shot four days.

[Kristin Davis]

What?

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, like all night.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, it's crazy.

[Kristin Davis]

You have kids yet?

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, they were brand new kids.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, wow.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

That's crazy town, isn't it?

[Adam Scott]

It was crazy town. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

It's hard, but it was in la. At least it was in L. A. Thank God, right? Thank God. Oh, my God. I know. All right, let's. Let's recap. Let's recap. It's always so hard, especially when I have someone like yourself, when I can just talk about all kind of things. Okay, so this is what's great about this, this episode is that Carrie is heartbroken because Big has gotten engaged to Natasha. Yes. And she doesn't necessarily want a date. And then she comes across Slattery on Staten island of all places. And I mean, who could say no to Slattery? My God. But he has to pursue her hardcore.

[Adam Scott]

And he's a politician.

[Kristin Davis]

And he's a politician.

[Adam Scott]

Can I just say, this episode has it just.

[Kristin Davis]

It.

[Adam Scott]

It has season premiere vibes, which is great.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

It's just so. It's like a reset.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

The dancing, everything. It feels.

[Kristin Davis]

Everyone has Good.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

I mean, Samantha firing on all cylinders.

[Kristin Davis]

Samantha in that firehouse. I had forgotten. I had 100% forgotten about that. And also. And I'm off track with. Cause I was gonna talk about Carrie, but let's talk about Samantha for a second because when we go to that Staten island bar, which I do think we literally went to Staten island, though I'm not 100% sure. Yeah. I did have to go to Staten island to do riding lessons for this season two finale. When I ride my horse in Central park, which was my first time to Staten island, and I was like, what planet have I landed on? I have.

[Adam Scott]

I've never been to Staten Island.

[Kristin Davis]

It's crazy. Adam, you gotta go.

[Adam Scott]

It's just a different.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, I think it's. Yes, it's totally different than the rest of Manhattan, but also they have horses and stuff. Like, who knew, like trees and horses and whatnot. But so I do think we were. We were either in like lower Manhattan sometimes we would go to Dumbo. Like when she goes.

[Adam Scott]

It's right across the bridge.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly. I think she was in Dumbo with the ferry because maybe we couldn't shoot in Staten Island. And I later on, for this past show, rented up airbnb in Dumbo, thinking that it was going to be like, the old Dumbo. And then I was like, oh, what, Disneyland?

[Adam Scott]

It's like Beverly Hills.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, it's crazy. Like, with, like, you know, picture Instagram, picture ops and whatever. No, I remembered, like, warehouse.

[Adam Scott]

Sweet green everywhere.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly. Literally every corner has a sweet green. It's quite. Quite different. But we, you know, we were somewhere with those firemen taking off their shirts, and I feel like they might have been real firemen. I need to check. But then, like, Samantha goes and talks to the one that she thinks looks the best. And he is so funny. Do you remember?

[Adam Scott]

He's really funny.

[Kristin Davis]

He's.

[Adam Scott]

He's. He's super dumb and. And really good at being.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, he's incredible.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah. He's out loud.

[Kristin Davis]

I had to rewind and laugh again. Like, he just keeps talking and she doesn't want him to talk.

[Adam Scott]

She's like, shut up.

[Kristin Davis]

Just, you know, hysterically funny.

[Adam Scott]

So funny. And hats off to her doing that firehouse stuff, too.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, I had forgotten it.

[Adam Scott]

Amazing.

[Kristin Davis]

Incredible. And I had not remembered it. And when she is. So she's. She goes to the firehouse, which also, like, what on earth. You know, and then she's. And then the voiceover says, like, then Samantha realized. Because we do bring up. I love the whole rescue theme, you know, when. This is when Charlotte, you know, Charlotte goes out dancing, you know, just realizes, I guess for the first time that she's a catch, which is hysterical. Right. And Carrie's like, yes, darling, yes. And then the next morning, we're hungover. Everyone's hungover, but I'm particularly hungover. And I get to film that scene that then we played at every award show. And I got to hear everybody laugh where I say, like, you know, I've been dating since I was 15.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Where is he? My hair hurts, you know, which was so great.

[Adam Scott]

So great.

[Kristin Davis]

Quintessentially Charlotte. And when I die, they can just show that it'll be fine. You know? You know what I mean?

[Adam Scott]

There's so much more, too.

[Kristin Davis]

There is, but I mean, that would be fine.

[Adam Scott]

It's a great scene.

[Kristin Davis]

It's like when things work, it's. You're just like, thank God. Right? So that worked really well. But everybody's got, like. And at that coffee shop scene, that's where of my favorite coffee shop scenes.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah. Because the hungover coffee shop. The hungover.

[Kristin Davis]

When we're. And then we're talking about firemen and why does everyone like firemen? And this is pre 9, 11. Which is also kind of amazing. Right? And we're talking about the hero and like just the look in their eyes that they will save you.

[Adam Scott]

And it's so interesting that once you guys all sort of land on that, everyone stops talking for a minute and just kind of absorbs this reality that you've all stumbled upon and you're just like, shh.

[Kristin Davis]

It's so good.

[Adam Scott]

It's so good.

[Kristin Davis]

It's so good.

[Adam Scott]

And then Slattery does rescue her. Then she rescues him.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely, absolutely.

[Adam Scott]

But also Charlotte's dance.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Adam Scott]

Is, is really iconic too. It's so sweet.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you.

[Adam Scott]

And she's just having a moment of.

[Kristin Davis]

Pure happiness, which is nice.

[Adam Scott]

Self generated.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

And also she's not depending on any free.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

But not depending on the. The attention of a man or anything.

[Kristin Davis]

That's true, that's true.

[Adam Scott]

She is having her own happiness in that moment.

[Kristin Davis]

That's so true. That's so true. Because earlier I've screwed my face all up into a weird thing and said, like, there's no dateable men here.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, you know, I'm so Charlottedy judgy. But then she sets herself free and has a funny dance to like a weird song. I remember when Michael Patrick. I was thinking it would be something that we knew, you know, that I would have to live.

[Adam Scott]

I don't remember.

[Kristin Davis]

It's a very strange song that I still don't even remember because I remember I had to like study it. Like, what?

[Adam Scott]

Maybe it was cheap.

[Kristin Davis]

Cheap. I think it was cheap. I think that was totally it. And I was like, couldn't we do something else? He's like, no, you have to do this one.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I was like, okay.

[Adam Scott]

Because there was an expensive song earlier in the episode, right? That's.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, I think that's right. I think that's right. I mean, expensive for the time, right? Yes, yes, exactly. Before all the algorithm fed blah and the endless sea of dupes, shopping used to feel more fun. But here's a confession. Are you a Charlotte listeners? You can find that fun feeling again on ebay. Because on ebay it's not just shopping, it's a full on fashion pursuit. And when you find the thing that adrenaline hit is real. I went on to ebay to look for a super special vintage jacket for Charlotte to wear to the gallery. And I found the most amazing Mugler jacket. And the costume department loved it and it felt so good and I still have it at home. Like when you score that rare Adidas collab, that's lived on your mood board or the Dior saddle bag that you ripped right out of a magazine in 2007 and never got over. Yeah, those. It's about the thrill and the pursuit of finding those pieces that feel like you. There's always more to discover. Ebay has millions of pre loved finds from hundreds of brands backed by ebay. Authenticity guarantee eBay Things People Love AG's new fall 2025 collection, from Canvas to Cloth, is inspired by artists and their studios. As someone who plays a character deeply rooted in the art world, it truly feels like something Charlotte would love. The collection blends creativity with wearability, from soft knits and suedes to new denim silhouettes like the Boyfriend Fit for women. It's relaxed, effortless and so chic. And it's not just for women. AG has great pieces for men, too, perfect for dressing the whole family. The Fall 2025 collection is available now at aggeans.com and use code KRISTEN15 for 15% off your next order. I'm going to be using my own discount, you guys. I'm so excited.

[Ryan Seacrest]

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[Jacob Goldstein]

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[Kristin Davis]

Hi, I'm Cindy Crawford and I'm the founder of Meaningful Beauty. Well, I don't know about you, but like I never liked being told, oh wow, you look so good for your age. Like why even bother saying that? Why don't you just say you look great at any age? Every age. That's what Meaningful Beauty is all about. We create products that make you feel confident in your skin at the age you are now. Meaningful beauty, beautiful skin at every age. Learn [e-mail] so, and I remember that at that time because also, Sarah Jessica does a little dance. The cameras above us, we would get a choreographer because we were so nervous about any dancing. If they said the word dance, the choreographer would be called just to hold our hands.

[Adam Scott]

I get it.

[Kristin Davis]

Because it's hard.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, it. And it's embarrassing in front of everybody. Totally.

[Kristin Davis]

You gotta free yourself up somehow. And if you know some steps or.

[Adam Scott]

Like an idea drunk. So you have to, like, pretend that.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, you're absolutely pretending that as well. We never. We never drank real drinks. No matter. Other people did on other sets. I guess I've been finding out through this podcast.

[Adam Scott]

I feel like I would. That would. I think that would be terrible because then three hours later, you're going to be, like, feeling like. And you have to work another night.

[Kristin Davis]

And you're gonna have to do other scenes where you're not drunk. I don't even understand how that works. Yeah. I'm sober also, so that would be a problem. But I didn't have to do that. So it was all good. But, yeah, it was always fun for Charlotte to play drunk, to be drunk, because she would be free, you know, which was so nice. So we all have this moment, which I think the entire scene of the. You know, do women just want to be rescued? I think is an incredible theme and holds up still.

[Adam Scott]

And a great way to launch the season, too.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely. A great way to launch the season. And still such a. We could do a new show. Now, about that.

[Jacob Goldstein]

Totally.

[Kristin Davis]

You know, do women still want to be rescued? Yeah, I kind of feel like they do.

[Adam Scott]

Well, everything in the show is Evergreen, don't you think? Everything you guys are.

[Kristin Davis]

I do. I mean, every once in a while, there'll be something where we say something weird like the during. Do you know Danny Futterman?

[Adam Scott]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. And he played the metrosexual. And that was a word.

[Adam Scott]

So good.

[Kristin Davis]

He's so good.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

It was a word that didn't survive. Right. Like we're.

[Adam Scott]

I remember that. I remember.

[Kristin Davis]

Move past that. Yes, yes. So sometimes there's something.

[Adam Scott]

Sure. There's little cultural things.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. But like, the bigger themes, I think, are 100 still true.

[Adam Scott]

I think even in that case, the fact that these four Women come to that conclusion is still interesting, still resonant that that's where they land. And they. All four of them at the same time are like, yeah, okay, in 2001 or 2000. 2000.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, I know, I know, I know. I love it. I love it, I love it. But I think it's great because it is still something that. I mean, I guess it's specific now to everybody, right? Like, do they want to be rescued or don't they? I mean, I didn't want to be rescued at the time, but I certainly knew that I was supposed to want to be rescued.

[Adam Scott]

Right. Which also gets a reaction, you know?

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, yeah. So my reaction was like, no, yeah, I will not be rescued. I will be super independent. Yeah, get away from me. Don't open that door. You know what I mean?

[Adam Scott]

Well, you can still be independent and still want that feeling. Even if you don't.

[Kristin Davis]

If.

[Adam Scott]

Even if that feeling is. Doesn't preclude you from carrying on with your life, maybe it. I don't know.

[Kristin Davis]

I do think that's true. I mean, I did eventually go out with someone who. Who used to save me. Like. Like, could you just relax with the independence a little bit? He was Australian, so I'm not going to go too much into detail. And I'd be like, what do you mean? He'd be like, well, like, for instance, you know, just let me order. I'd be like, okay, all right, I'll try. You know? You know what I mean?

[Adam Scott]

Go for it.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, you could give it up. You know what I mean? I could give up. I didn't need to have it. You know what I'm saying? But you have to. I think I had to prove to myself that I could be independent.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, maybe that's.

[Adam Scott]

And therefore you are.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly. And I mean, I was then, too. But then I could also just let him have the power if he needed to have the power. If that made him feel good.

[Adam Scott]

Sure.

[Kristin Davis]

And it made me feel good. And then one time I got sick and he was there and I let him take care of me.

[Adam Scott]

I remember that. Was that a big thing?

[Kristin Davis]

Big step. Big step. And he was very good at it.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And I was like, that's nice.

[Adam Scott]

And was it a nice feeling to have someone.

[Kristin Davis]

It was a good feeling. It would have been very. Because we were on location and he just happened to be visiting, and if he hadn't been there, I would have just gutted it out by myself. Like, I wouldn't have called anybody because I wouldn't have wanted to worry anybody.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

You know what I mean?

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, when you're on location, you don't want to scare everyone. Yeah, right. Because I already. I had had the weekend off, but I was like, I would have just holed up in that little hotel room by myself.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

So it was nice. So it's sometimes nice.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

Let someone, even if it's for their sake, to let them feel like they are taking. You know.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely, absolutely. But I think. And that's why it was. And still is. And you know, whenever I do play Charlotte, still interesting is that she wanted all these things, but then is also super, super capable. Right.

[Adam Scott]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

But still thought she wanted the fantasy.

[Adam Scott]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

And then has to let go of elements of the fantasy, but still found the good guy.

[Adam Scott]

That's right.

[Kristin Davis]

You know, but then like when. If you ever are on a plane and watching just like that, you will see like, Charlotte runs that family.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, sure. What I mean, interesting.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, yeah, it's great.

[Adam Scott]

But don't you think Harry also. He's powerful, but he also. One of the things he loves about her, at least in. In Sex in the City, when they. When they meet and then the movies as well, is that he. He does love that she's independent and she can take care of herself.

[Kristin Davis]

Definitely.

[Adam Scott]

And he doesn't think she needs him to rescue her.

[Kristin Davis]

Definitely. Definitely. They have a very good partnership. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

[Adam Scott]

Like, he respects her from the start.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely. And that's, I think the thing that, that, that catches her off guard and, you know, is so attractive.

[Adam Scott]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Like the kind of deep respect. And also he's just such a good human being.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

You know, which is what.

[Adam Scott]

But also doesn't really take any of her.

[Kristin Davis]

No, no, he doesn't. That's a good point. That's a good point. And I mean, I haven't gotten to re. Watch that part yet. And I feel like I'm really going to discover a lot when I do. Do you know what I mean?

[Adam Scott]

But when I. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Because, you know, like sometimes when I rewatch, I'm like, wow, I didn't.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Like see all these subtleties, you know.

[Adam Scott]

Super interesting. Because it's super interesting when they meet. It's great.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. I mean, Evan's great.

[Adam Scott]

I love. Yes. And I love you two together. It's so fun.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you. I mean, we lucked out with him. Yeah, we lucked out with him.

[Adam Scott]

So great.

[Kristin Davis]

I know I'm gonna have to keep re watching, but I do I have to ask you this question because I'm dying One of the reasons that I think about Evan and I think about how lucky we are is that that part was written for another actor that Michael saw doing a play off Broadway. And then it became between that actor and Evan and Evan. We used to get to read with the people who were in the finalists for our main guys. Right. Not Kyle. Kyle. Michael met at a picnic and just told me, it's gonna be a Kyle McGuagu. And I was like, okay. I mean, what are you gonna say? Right? But Evan came in, in this audition with props, and he took this big muffin out and just ate it and talked with, like, the crumbs coming out of his mouth. Right. Like, super confident. And I remember seeing, and I don't know if this was intentional or not, in the lead up to the Emmys, that Brits audition tape, did you see that? It, like, got out?

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, how does that happen? So interesting.

[Adam Scott]

I mean, I think they put it out. They did.

[Kristin Davis]

On purpose.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Got it, got it, got it. Because it was so incredible.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, my God.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah. She sent that in and it was an incredible tape. And then came in and we read together.

[Kristin Davis]

Got it.

[Adam Scott]

And she was great. But yeah, that, that.

[Kristin Davis]

And you showed you the tape because this is in the self tape era.

[Adam Scott]

We've seen the tape.

[Kristin Davis]

Got it, got it, got it.

[Adam Scott]

But. But I hadn't seen it when she came in to read. I hadn't seen it yet.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Adam Scott]

But I knew Brit from before.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, good.

[Adam Scott]

And when she walked in, I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, of course, Brit. Right? And I knew immediately was like, that's. That's. That's her.

[Kristin Davis]

And she's so perfect.

[Adam Scott]

Oh, yeah. Absolutely amazing.

[Kristin Davis]

Amazing. Like, when you see that self tape, I mean, it is.

[Adam Scott]

It's all there.

[Kristin Davis]

Perfection. Everything is there. And that's a hard, hard scene.

[Adam Scott]

Not easy.

[Kristin Davis]

Good lord. So impressive. Anyway, sorry. I'm always curious about when they release those things, like how. How does it happen?

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, you know? Yeah, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, I wish we had, though.

[Adam Scott]

I was like, this is so great. Should put it out.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, cool, cool, cool, cool. I totally agree. All right. Samantha's in that firehouse. So I had forgotten that she goes to the literal firehouse y and thinks it's going to have some, like, sex fantasy. And all these dudes are there just staring at her.

[Adam Scott]

And they're not all, like, hunky.

[Kristin Davis]

No, they're not all hunky. Of course. And then she's like, why are all the outfits here on the floor? You know, which is really Funny. He's like, for a fire. And then, of course, the bell goes off. And then she. She before that, when she gets. Gets in his or whatever, she looks so incredibly cute. Like, it's so fantastic. But then that fireman really yells at her, like, yeah.

[Adam Scott]

He's like, get the out of. It was like, crazy.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God, it's so good. And then she's standing there by herself in firehouse with no clothes. Very brave. Yeah, very brave. Very brave on her part. And really, incredibly good. Like, you're right. Every single storyline is so, so good.

[Adam Scott]

And it's such a compact amount of time.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. Michael Patrick wrote and directed.

[Adam Scott]

Amazing.

[Kristin Davis]

That's him at his. He's like, all cylinders firing. Yep. So then we've got Miranda, who is, you know, struggling. This really. I've related to this so much, talking about independence. She's got to go have her Lasix, and she doesn't want to call a friend. I've been in this place so many times, I'm like, I won't need a friend. Well, you have a wife. Right. But do you still try not to?

[Adam Scott]

Well, I remember in my single day, just, like, moving by myself.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly.

[Adam Scott]

Like, I don't want anyone to help me. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

I don't need help. I don't need help. And then you're like, oh, my God, my back is killing me.

[Adam Scott]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. And like, Moran is so adorable. Like, she wakes up from Lasix and they've told her every different way that she needs a friend. And she wants Carrie. She doesn't want Steve. And David tries his little sweet self, and then she wakes up and it's all blurry. And she sees him there, and then it's nice.

[Adam Scott]

He's so sweet, isn't he? Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Isn't he so good?

[Adam Scott]

The best. David Eigenberg.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, he's incredible.

[Adam Scott]

And I love that she writes those big notes for herself through the Chinese restaurant, which is the same Chinese restaurant she orders from the whole series.

[Kristin Davis]

It's a through line. It's a very important through line.

[Adam Scott]

It's like her favorite place.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. And that's the other thing re watching where I really respect the writer so much. You know, like, the details.

[Adam Scott]

Totally.

[Kristin Davis]

On the other hand, I would also say there are sometimes inconsistencies, which in the olden days, pre social media, we were allowed to get away with, and now we are not.

[Adam Scott]

Well, you know, one thing that you notice is that when you guys go to restaurants on the show, often it's the exact same menu. Have you noticed that?

[Kristin Davis]

Yes. It's. Our people are like, get out the restaurant menu. Totally, totally, totally. Sometimes that's because we are at a real restaurant that we are going to use as the real restaurant for one scene in one episode. But we would crossboard. We'd shoot two at once. Right, right. And so then in the back, we would have asked for, like, a back room. And we've dressed it differently to be like an innocuous restaurant so we can use that restaurant twice and get away with it. But yes, Little details like that. I do sometimes see, I'm like, oh, that's funny. That's the. Like, it's got, like, onion soup or whatever on it. Like. Like, it's funny.

[Adam Scott]

I see stuff like that and love it. I don't.

[Kristin Davis]

So do I. So do I. So do I. As actors, I mean, because we understand why. You know what I mean? But, like, you guys on severance could never get away with any.

[Adam Scott]

No. But one thing I do notice, too, is when people look down for their marks. But whenever I pointed out my wife is like, what? What are you talking about? Oh, my God, it's so.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. I love it. It. Yeah, I love it. But I remember, like, when I first was guest starring or whatever. I mean, the panic without your mark, it's terrifying. And if you have to do.

[Adam Scott]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Back in the olden days.

[Adam Scott]

Oh, yeah. Or if you're doing a long walk and talk and you have to land on a thing.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. I mean, this was our show. The walk and talk. I mean.

[Adam Scott]

Oh, yeah, I'm sure.

[Kristin Davis]

Like.

[Adam Scott]

And you're out in the wild.

[Kristin Davis]

In the wild with the strangers yelling at us and whatnot.

[Adam Scott]

You know, you feel it, too, in these. Great.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.

[Adam Scott]

Sorry. You're trying.

[Kristin Davis]

No, it's okay. I. I want to recap, but I mean, also, I just like to talk.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah, I like talking to you.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay. Miranda's storyline. I mean, I think we did the important part. The important part is that it's adorable. And then when she does wake up and she sees Steve and she puts her hand in his hand.

[Adam Scott]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God, it's the sweetest.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah. When she wakes up and takes the.

[Kristin Davis]

Goggles off and she can see clearly and then she puts. She sees him clearly. It's incredible. It's so cool.

[Adam Scott]

I love those, too.

[Kristin Davis]

I do, too. And I. I did not appreciate him at the time. I've said this already. And, I mean, not that I didn't think he was great or whatever. I just. I think I liked when we were all single, somehow. You know, and I didn't really understand how incredibly good he was and how opposite they were and complimentary and how good the writing was.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah. And she certainly fights it.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

But.

[Kristin Davis]

But that makes sense.

[Adam Scott]

When you love someone, you love them.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely. Even if they aren't what you pictured and even if you didn't even think you wanted to get married and whatever. And if you want to be a partner at your law firm more than you want to get married and all the different things.

[Adam Scott]

And he embarrasses her. He makes dumb jokes and she's like, God, you know, fights it every step of the way.

[Kristin Davis]

Every step of the way. And she's just so good.

[Adam Scott]

They're both so good.

[Kristin Davis]

So good.

[Adam Scott]

Cynthia Nixon, man.

[Kristin Davis]

I know, right?

[Adam Scott]

Powerhouse. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Kristin Davis]

Hi, I'm Cindy Crawford, and I'm the founder of Meaningful Beauty. Well, I don't know about you, but, like, I never liked being told, oh, wow, you look so good for your age. Like, why even bother saying that? Why don't you just say you look great at any age, Every age. That's what Meaningful Beauty is all about. We create products that make you feel confident in your skin at the age you are now. Meaningful Beauty. Beautiful skin at every age. Learn more@meaningful beauty.com let's continue on the Carry of it all. And then my. I mean, we kind of do.

[Adam Scott]

Because she doesn't want to date this guy. But he's so charming.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, who could say?

[Adam Scott]

I love that he shows up with her voter registration film.

[Kristin Davis]

Is that not the cutest thing? And also, can you believe she didn't vote?

[Adam Scott]

I know.

[Kristin Davis]

Has such resonance.

[Adam Scott]

But it's so. It's a really interesting character thing for Carrie. It's like.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Jacob Goldstein]

It's just.

[Kristin Davis]

And also her devotion to shoes in this particular episode. My God. This is leading up to that. She's in debt. This is when I think they're really.

[Adam Scott]

Thinking about when they get to her borrowing money from you.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly. Exactly. Wanting my ring.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

To pay off her shoe debt.

[Adam Scott]

Which is. Yeah, yeah. Because that's after Trey.

[Kristin Davis]

Right, Right. So they're really. At this point, I think they've got their writer's room together before the show, and they're really planning.

[Adam Scott]

And then also. Is it post split up with Trey that you're walking and Cynthia follows you too.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, yeah. When I went. Well, no, no, I'm still with Trey because that's when I really know that I can't have a baby. And then remember when he gets that paper baby out, that. That. That. That poster baby.

[Adam Scott]

Not a great move.

[Kristin Davis]

I know.

[Adam Scott]

Not a great move.

[Kristin Davis]

I know.

[Adam Scott]

And I thought it would just be a little chuckle or whatever. I know.

[Kristin Davis]

That's when he's really annoying.

[Adam Scott]

Oh, boy.

[Kristin Davis]

But he's still him.

[Adam Scott]

You walking home and the voiceover saying she knew if she would turn around. That's like.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. It was good.

[Adam Scott]

Really good.

[Kristin Davis]

Really good. It was really good. I look back on those story lines. Haven't watched it again. I look back on them, and I think in some ways, I was a little young. Like, all my friends hadn't started going through that yet. Do you know what I mean? Like, there was a time maybe like five years after that where, like, all my friends are going through ivf, you know, like everybody. And it's hell. You know what I mean? We hadn't really known. Known people yet. So much who had done that. And I wonder if I did it justice. You know what I'm saying?

[Adam Scott]

Yes, you did.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Adam Scott]

It's so good.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you, Adam.

[Adam Scott]

It's so good. Not just. Just that, but also it's the. Charlotte is going through so much because there's infertility, but then there's the marriage falling apart, and she has to redefine herself.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

She knows she can't do this. She knows she can't stay with this guy. And it takes a while for her to actually come to terms with that and make the move.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

She can't do it.

[Kristin Davis]

No. No. It's hard. It's.

[Adam Scott]

Because you had everything and Bunny and all, because the apartment, the money, it's just, like, impossible. But also that scene with Miranda following Charlotte home, it's. It's also. It's. It's a. It's. It's a little micro moment of what the show really earns and builds, which is these four women are bulletproof when they're together. They'll do anything for each other.

[Kristin Davis]

Chosen family.

[Adam Scott]

Oh, dude.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely.

[Adam Scott]

Yes. So good.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. Yeah. That, I think, is the legacy in so many ways. I mean, there's so many different elements of the legacy. One is the talking freely about sex, of course, but the women being together, not being pitted against each other ever at all, which is shocking for a TV show at the time, which is so bizarre. Right. But I'd come from Melrose Place, where, like, that's all you ever were. Were pitted against the other women. You know, like, soap opera is. Right. But the fact that we were chosen family and that we were there for all of it and that we were the, you know, ride or dies or however you want to talk about it. And I do feel like culturally now that's much more celebrated, I think, with men as well, which I feel like men are, like, a little behind with the, you know, male friendship being celebrated or whatever. You know, like, it's important.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah. It's incredibly important.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah. And that was. That was all. You're right. That. That was a huge part of it, too. There were so many, many firsts with the show.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Adam Scott]

And it's all just so valuable.

[Kristin Davis]

You're so sweet to be such a fan.

[Adam Scott]

I love it. And you're incredible.

[Kristin Davis]

Adam?

[Adam Scott]

Yes?

[Kristin Davis]

Are you a Charlotte?

[Adam Scott]

That's a good question. Any answer is, except I feel like I'm a Miranda.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow. Really?

[Adam Scott]

I think so.

[Kristin Davis]

That's interesting.

[Adam Scott]

I think so.

[Kristin Davis]

In what way?

[Adam Scott]

I think that Miranda is. I see. I don't like putting any of them in boxes because I think they're all like whole human beings. That's one of the superpowers of the show is they all are lots of different things.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes. Thank you.

[Adam Scott]

So. But I think that the sort of. Of resistance of Miranda and the sort of isolation of Miranda that she. That she kind of thought was her ethos and then eventually discovered was not.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Adam Scott]

I kind. I kind of connected to that.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Adam Scott]

Wow.

[Kristin Davis]

Wouldn't have seen that coming.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah. Yeah. But I, I. But then I also connect with. With Charlotte on things and. And Carrie and Samantha.

[Kristin Davis]

What? Really?

[Adam Scott]

Well, I mean, I don't know, but I think that they're all.

[Kristin Davis]

That's adorable.

[Adam Scott]

I think they're all. They're all you. You can find entry points with all of them.

[Kristin Davis]

Definitely. For sure. For sure. For sure. And that. And. And over time, some people tell me, like, well, when I first started, I was a Carrie, and then I kind of went through my Charlotte phase, and now I'm divorced. I'm in my Samantha phase. And I'm like, that's cool. It's all good. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I. I mean, I would have. I think this is still true. I have to guess. I have to rethink it. But I'm like kind of Charlotte, kind of Carrie. You know what I mean?

[Adam Scott]

That's really interesting. It's so interesting just to hear kind of where you were when you were shooting the show and how different you are from.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, in some ways, so different. Also, I've adopted children, so, you know, some big similarities. But I did it on camera first.

[Adam Scott]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Which is weird. I know. Weird, right? But I think. I think Michael Patrick knew that I had that in my mind as a possibility. You know what I'm saying? I would have to ask him. I don't know what came first, like us talking about it or. You know what I mean? I don't know. It's all very interesting.

[Adam Scott]

That's great.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. But it's fun. But you're just so sweet that you. I had no idea that you had really rewatched three times. You're, like, way ahead of me.

[Adam Scott]

Oh, yeah. And because you had me watch this episode now, like I said this morning, I was watching. I kept watching a few episodes. It's just hard to not. Not continue watching. It's.

[Kristin Davis]

Which is so nice. I feel that way about Parks and Rec.

[Adam Scott]

Oh, thank you.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay. Adam, you're incredible.

[Adam Scott]

You're so nice to have me just as a fan. This is really terrific. So thank you for having me.

[Kristin Davis]

It's a joy for me. It's a joy for me.

[Adam Scott]

Thanks for having me.

[Kristin Davis]

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