He could have been Steve… He could have been Mr. Pussy…He DID kiss Charlotte and then this happened...

Summary

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Are You A Charlotte?

Episode: He could have been Steve… He could have been Mr. Pussy…He DID kiss Charlotte and then this happened...
Date: March 26, 2026
Host: Kristin Davis
Guest: Jason McDonald (brief appearance in Sex and the City, Season 2, Episode 13 — "Games People Play")

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Episode Overview

In this nostalgic and lighthearted episode, Kristin Davis reconnects with actor Jason McDonald to dig into the lost Sex and the City storyline that never aired—an unaired "romance" between Charlotte York and Jason’s character, Emerson. The conversation is filled with behind-the-scenes recollections, humorous anecdotes about auditioning for pivotal roles like Steve Brady and Mr. Pussy, reflections on industry shifts, and the “what could have been” fun of cast chemistry. For longtime fans, it’s a delightful window into SATC’s golden era and the serendipity (and heartbreak) of show business.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Jason McDonald’s Almosts: Audition History

• Jason recalls how his early career intersected frequently with SATC casting:
  • Auditioned for Steve Brady and Mr. Pussy (the latter famous for that very memorable storyline)
  • Landed the small role of Emerson in Season 2, Episode 13—but the storyline (a bridge party flirtation and a kiss with Charlotte) was ultimately cut
  • [05:55] Jason: “I remember auditioning. I didn’t audition season one, but they started bringing me in season two... What’s the role? Steve Brady.”
  • [06:12] “Then I auditioned for Mr. Pussy—do you remember that role?”
• Kristin is delighted and surprised to hear how many times Jason was considered for different parts:
  • [06:35] Kristin: “Oh my God. So you auditioned for so many important parts. Wow.”

The Lost Bridge Party Scene

• Jason describes the entire cut storyline:
  • Charlotte meets Emerson at an Upper East Side bridge party—they flirt as partners, are accused of cheating, sneak away, and Charlotte kisses him against a bookcase
  • The hostess, Mimi Ochenbach, kicks them out
  • [07:01] Jason: “It was this high-end, Upper East Side preppy bunch of people, and you and I were making eyes across the room… and then someone accused us of cheating. And then we went around the corner and you put me up against the bookshelf and kissed me.”
  • [07:43] “I think the VO is like... ‘And Charlotte got kicked out of Mimi Ochenbach’s Upper East Side apartment for kissing Emerson against the bookshelf.’”
• Kristin and Sarah Jessica Parker (guest, uncredited but present throughout) both express delight and some regret the scene was lost
  • [08:14] SJP: “Kind of like Clue. Like ‘Games People Play.’”
  • [09:29] SJP: “When I watched the episode, I did feel... what happened to my storyline?”
• Speculation as to why it was cut: likely due to Jon Bon Jovi’s guest spot in the same episode and the demands of screen time
  • [09:41] Kristin: “I think I’m gonna just take a guess that we had Jon Bon Jovi, and really, no one can compete with Jon Bon Jovi.”

Behind-the-Scenes Camaraderie

• Late night shoots at Silvercup Studios, cast and their dogs hanging out, and the warmth of the SATC set
  • [08:28] Jason: “You had your dog there… I had my golden.”
  • Reminiscences about Kristin’s kindness:
  • [25:47] Jason: “You were... You were. I will always remember how kind you were to me as a green actor.”
• The emotional side of being cut from a high-profile show, and how actors only find out when the episode airs
  • [12:00] Jason: “No one tells you when you’re cut out of something... I had some friends over to watch the episode...”

“The One That Got Away” and Personal Connections

• Kristin reflects on the unusual chemistry with Jason
  • [26:05] Kristin: “I’m getting the feeling... I might have had a little crush. I can’t think of another actor who came on our show that I took Polaroids of...”
  • Jason’s own comedic take:
  • [26:44] Jason: “Two weeks after we shot my wife at the time said to me, ‘So are you still in love with Kristin Davis?’”
  • [27:03] SJP: “This is all very fascinating. It’s like the road not taken.”
  • Updates on Jason’s life: now remarried, lives in Park Slope, Brooklyn, teaches acting, and has three dogs
  • [27:47] Jason: “Yeah, I got remarried this past Christmas Eve.”
• The legendary lost Polaroids, which Jason found, scanned, and shared with the team—these will be posted to Kristin’s Instagram for fans’ enjoyment
  • [24:29] Jason: "I found them a few years ago and scanned them."

Reflections on SATC’s Creative Process

• The evolving showrunner landscape: Darren Star’s exit, Michael Patrick King’s rise
  • [22:38] SJP: “Michael Patrick was then in charge... he was writing, directing, executive producing... then he goes on to win Emmys and do movies and all the things.”
  • [22:56] SJP: “Darren loves to create... he’s always trying to find the next thing.”
• How much of the show’s early seasons were shot guerrilla-style, rapidly, sometimes under less-than-glamorous conditions
  • [45:34] SJP: “We’d do crazy things, like... roll [the lights] down the sidewalk in New York... guerrilla filmmaking in the streets.”
• Industry shift from film to digital, and the shift in production pace and creative control
  • Discussion of self-tape auditions, pros and cons of creative control vs. real-time feedback
  • [21:17] Jason: “...none of these kids know how to do a self-tape or work on set. It’s so different now.”

The Writer’s Room, Real Life, and Jenny Bix’s Influence

• Jason’s connection to writer Jenny Bix from SATC and later FOX show “Welcome to Flatch”
  • [10:25] Jason: “I had said something to Jenny when... I was on her show Welcome to Flatch for two seasons.”
  • [11:06] SJP: “Jenny’s amazing. We have a few people that we’d cast in SATC that ended up on her shows... she just has a catalog of people she likes.”
• Shout-outs to the SATC writing team’s hunger for stories drawn from their own lives ("tragically single" era), feeding the authenticity of the show
  • [32:17] SJP: “She was talking about how... all the writers were at this point tragically single, so they were just using all their stuff from real life.”

On Growth, Character, and Being Remembered

• Thoughts on how characters and actors grow over time—even with fan protest!
  • [42:09] SJP: “People change and grow. That’s life. That’s the joy of life. You don’t need to be didactically committed to... Charlotte wore her hair like this when she was 40, so she’d wear it like this when she’s 50.”
  • [42:25] Jason: “It’s funny how people get into the nitty gritty of stuff... but you’re absolutely right. We change, we grow.”
• Lasting connections and family-like bonds among SATC cast and crew, shaping the narrative and deepening performances
  • [43:08] SJP: “It creates a through line and a connectedness that can’t be manufactured.”
  • [43:22] Jason: “You develop a shorthand with those people.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On being cut from the episode
  Jason: “No one tells you when you’re cut out of something... I had some friends over to watch the episode, and I was, oh, no, it’s fine. I’m not. It’s not a sob story.” [12:00]
• On all-night shoots and rules of set survival
  Jason: “We broke for dinner at like 2am... and they served like, sliced turkey. You were like, oh my God, tryptophan, we’re all going to be asleep. Don’t eat the turkey.” [44:01]
• On what might have been
  Kristin: “I’m getting the feeling... I might have had a little crush. Because I don’t know, I can’t think of another actor who came on our show that I took Polaroids of...” [26:05] Jason: “Two weeks after we shot, my wife at the time said to me, ‘So, are you still in love with Kristen Davis?’” [26:44]
• On why the storyline got bumped
  SJP: “I think I’m just going to take a guess that we had Jon Bon Jovi, and really, no one can compete with Jon Bon Jovi.” [09:41]
• On lasting impact and perspective
  SJP: “It creates a through line and a connectedness that can’t be manufactured or changed, really. Right. Like, it’s just fundamental in a way.” [43:08]
• On the Polaroids
  Jason: “I found them a few years ago and scanned them.” [24:29]
  SJP: “I love it so much. Now take me back a little bit to your life...” [25:06]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 05:17–10:23 – Jason recounts his auditions for Steve, Mr. Pussy, and ultimately playing Emerson; describes the cut bridge party storyline.
• 12:00–13:17 – The awkwardness of discovering you’ve been cut and reconnecting years later.
• 21:00–22:32 – Reflections on the new world of acting (self-tapes, on-camera training).
• 22:38–23:34 – The showrunner transition: Darren Star to Michael Patrick King.
• 24:18–24:55 – The legendary Polaroids and their fate.
• 26:05–27:03 – Kristin and Jason reflect on the flirtation and post-shoot confusion/flattery.
• 42:07–43:47 – Growth and change: the evolving nature of characters, actors, and real life.
• 44:01–45:11 – Kristin and Jason reminisce about the “no turkey” rule on overnight shoots.
• 47:26–48:45 – Discussion of improvisational comedy on Jenny Bix and Paul Feig’s “Welcome to Flatch.”
• 49:12–49:43 – Final reflections and mutual gratitude for lost but shared memories.

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Takeaways

• The ephemeral nature of TV: Even cherished scenes and guest roles sometimes vanish, leaving only stories, Polaroids, and “shadow memories.”
• The small world of casting: Today’s almosts can become tomorrow’s guest stars on another project.
• Authenticity in writing: SATC’s resonance came from its writers’ willingness to mine personal experience.
• Growth, both on- and off-screen: Characters and the people who play them inevitably grow, and so do their relationships.
• Found family: The SATC cast and crew’s lasting connection mirrors the relationships the show portrayed.

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For fans, this episode is a charming mix of industry insight, nostalgia, and a sprinkle of bittersweet “what if?”—and proof that every behind-the-scenes “almost” can be as memorable as what ends up on screen. And keep an eye on Kristin’s Instagram—those youthful, behind-the-scenes Polaroids are coming.

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And he has some really great memories. I think I flirted a lot with him. I'm not sure. He's a really, really interesting guy. I'm gonna try to find this footage and share it with all of us, but in the meantime, I'm gonna put the Polaroids he had of us way, way, way, way back up on the Instagram for everyone. Walk down memory lane with Jason McDonald.

[Kristin Davis]

Hello.

[Jason McDonald]

Hey, Kristin. How are you?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I'm all right. How are you?

[Jason McDonald]

I'm good. It's been, you know, how many years? 20?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I have no idea. 25. 25?

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. Something like that. Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes. I mean, you need to tell us everything.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Jason McDonald]

Okay.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Jason McDonald, everyone who emailed us very sweetly with some memories that I cannot wait to hear.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. And they're very different from your memories, I'm sure. But it was. It was like the first big booking of my career, so I was so excited to work with you.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, wow.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. I mean, I'd done soap operas and commercials and theater and stuff, but it

[Sophia Bush]

was like my first.

[Jason McDonald]

And I remember auditioning. I didn't audition season one, but they started bringing me in season two, and I had auditioned. What's the role? Steve Brady.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

No way.

[Jason McDonald]

To be Brandon what was his name?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

David Eigenberg.

[Jason McDonald]

David. David.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason McDonald]

And he was great. He was terrific. And it's funny because I was working at a restaurant in soho and Jenny Bix came in for dinner and sat at the bar where I was bartending, and she was like, oh, my God, we just saw you for, like, that role. I was like, wow.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So what happened?

[Jason McDonald]

Well, I didn't get that role. Then I auditioned for. I auditioned for Mr. Pussy. You remember that role?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, my God. So you auditioned for so many important parts. Wow.

[Jason McDonald]

I know. And then the one I got.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, my goodness.

[Jason McDonald]

Beginning, which was Emerson on that episode. Games People Play. Right. That Jenny wrote.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right.

[Jason McDonald]

And they cut our whole storyline.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And why? What did we do? Tell me everything, because I don't have a clear memory.

[Jason McDonald]

Okay. So it was a bridge party. It was an Upper east side bridge party. We were bridge partners.

[Sophia Bush]

Okay.

[Jason McDonald]

And it was like this, you know, high end, Upper east side preppy bunch of people, and you and I were making eyes across the room from each other, and then we ended up being partners. And then someone accused us of cheating. And then we went around the corner and you put me up against the bookshelf and kissed me and. Yeah. You don't remember this? No. We should talk to Jenny. We should talk to Jenny Biggs because she remembers it. I know, right?

[Kristin Davis]

We need it. Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes. Okay. So this is very bold of Charlotte. I'm impressed. Okay, good. Okay.

[Jason McDonald]

Wow. And then whoever the host. And this is so weird that I remember this. Why do I remember this?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

The character. Tell me.

[Jason McDonald]

The character's name was Mimi Ochenbach. I don't know why I remember that. And you're in your. I think the VO Is like. Was Sarah's character saying. And Charlotte got kicked out of Mimi Ochinbach's Upper east side apartment for kissing Emerson against the bookshelf. Something like that. Wow.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Kind of like clue. Like. Like games people play. Like in the study with the, you know, gun, revolver, whatever.

[Jason McDonald]

Interesting. Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Wow.

[Jason McDonald]

That was my memory. And I was like. You were so freaking kind. Like, we shot really late that night at Silica.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That was our M.O.

[Jason McDonald]

and you had your dog there. And I remember meeting. I had my golden.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

My golden was there.

[Jason McDonald]

And I met Cynthia because you guys were good friends and she was there doing something. And we hung out. We hung out in your dressing room and we talked.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It was fun.

[Jason McDonald]

I know, right? It was like.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I was so glad. I was so glad. So you had a late night. Silver. Silver cup night with us. Yeah, we had many that. That's fun times. That's fun times. Did we work, like, all night? Was it one of those, like, really bad.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, yeah. No, I think we wrapped it like six or something. I remember the van. The van taking me into the city. And it was. It was like light out already.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yep. Yep. That. That was how we rolled. That was how we rolled.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So we. Did we. Was that just the one day that we filmed or did we film more than once?

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, that was it. That was my one day. And in on the cutting room floor.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I'm so sad. I'm so sad for us, what happened.

[Jason McDonald]

You know, it's been a good story for me for. For the past 25 years. It's been a good story for me.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's good. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. I mean, it makes me wonder. When I watched the episode, I did feel. Feel like, gosh, what happened to my storyline? I had some vague memory, but I didn't remember this. But I do remember Bridge.

[Kristin Davis]

Do you know what I mean?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Like, I remember, but I didn't know it was that episode. And I think I'm gonna just take a guess that we had Jon Bon Jovi, and therefore, you know, really, no one can compete with Jon Bon Jovi.

[Jason McDonald]

Right?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That would be my guess. But it's also. It was such an interesting. I liked the games people played storyline. You know what I'm saying? And that would have been fun to have another version of. So I wonder. I'm gonna ask Jenny because I do feel like there was at one point people would tell me that if you had gotten the collection of DVDs, that

[Kristin Davis]

there were some omitted scenes that had been on the DVDs.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So I'm curious if we could get ahold of that and find out.

[Kristin Davis]

That would be really fun to watch.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. I had said something to Jenny when we were. I was on her show welcome to Flatch for two seasons.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, yeah, tell us about that. This is so incredible. So wait, you meet her the first time.

[Kristin Davis]

You're a waiter, right?

[Jason McDonald]

I'm a bartender. I'm a bartender. Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Love it. You're a bartender. Got it, got it, got it.

[Jason McDonald]

And then you Fast forward to 2020. And I auditioned for this FOX comedy called or what was called this country at the time. And I saw. And when I got the audition, I saw EP was Jenny Bix. I was like. So in my submission notes for my audition for that show, I was like, hey, Jenny. Or let Jenny know that I played Emerson in her episode 20 years ago.

[Kristin Davis]

How fun.

[Jason McDonald]

When I did my chemistry read, which we did over Skype.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Wow.

[Jason McDonald]

Jenny was like, hi, Jason. Like, like, like nothing had changed. Like she remembers.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

No, Jenny's amazing, amazing, amazing. We have a few people that we cast in Sex and the City that ended up on her other shows, which I love. She. I think she just has a catalog of people she likes in her mind, and then she. She's able to put them in other. Other shows, which is, like, such a joy.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. There was a guy that guest starred on welcome to Flatch who was. Had been on Men in Trees. Like, she knew from there.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's the best.

[Jason McDonald]

She was. And then when we, you know, when I booked that show and we met for the table read and the fittings and the photos and all that, she was like, you look the same. I was like, no, but thank you. Yeah, she's lovely. But here's a story. Kristin, tell me. No one tells you when you're cut out of something. I know. You know?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So sad. So sad.

[Jason McDonald]

So I had some friends over to watch the episode, and I was, oh, no, it's fine. I'm not. It's not a sob story. But a month or two later, I was walking up Columbus Avenue and there was this golden retriever outside a store, and I stopped to, like, pet it. And you were in the store and came out and you started talking. I was like, hey. And you're like, oh, my God. And in that. In that moment, you said. You said it wasn't us. It wasn't us. They didn't cut the storyline because of us.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, thank God.

[Jason McDonald]

It was a timing, a time thing or something, or they felt like the writing didn't land or something. But I think it was the Jon Bon Jovi thing. Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I mean, probably. And probably if it was the Jon Bon Jovi thing, they might not have said to me it was the Jon Bon Jovi thing. But I probably would have figured that out eventually. But I do think time wise, I mean, a lot of times you would know, like, you would have. There would be like, the A plot, B plot, C plot, D plot, because

[Kristin Davis]

there were four of us.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right. And you would know, oh, this is my week to have the D plot, meaning smaller. But usually it existed. I'm just guessing that Jon Bon Jovi, you know, won out or whatever in terms of minutes, minutes on screen. But I'm glad that we saw each other in Columbus. There are things that I just don't remember. Sometimes I remember, like, tiny minutia, sometimes nothing.

[Kristin Davis]

So I'm Glad.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I'm glad that my golden, who's named Callie, was like, the connector. She's a very sweet girl. Very sweet girl.

[Kristin Davis]

So wait, where are you now?

[Jason McDonald]

In Park Slope in Brooklyn.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, cool. I love Park Slope so much.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, we're right on. We're right on the park, so it's really, really nice.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, my God. Incredible. When we were doing. And just like that, the first year that we went back to do it, which was right after Covid, I took my kids with me, and so we went. I was trying to find a place that was, like, you know, big enough and fun enough and whatever, and we got a place that was a couple blocks from the park. And they went every day to that park.

[Kristin Davis]

They knew every inch.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And then the next time I took them, we were going to the Village,

[Kristin Davis]

and I said, you guys, I found

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

this incredible brownstone in the Village. And they were like, what about Park Slope? They were, like, terrorized that we weren't going to be in Brooklyn again. And I said, no, no, it's going to be okay. It's the Village. And they're like, no. No, Mommy. No Park Slope. We have to be in Park Slope. They love it so much.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, it's great. We have three dogs, so it's. It's really convenient to have it right there.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You're living the life.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That's so nice.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

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[Kristin Davis]

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And the costume department loved it and

[Kristin Davis]

it felt so good. And I still have it at home.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Like when you score that rare Adidas

[Kristin Davis]

collab that's lived on your mood board or the Dior saddle bag that you

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

ripped right out of a magazine in 2007 and never got over.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

There's always more to discover.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Now wait, there was a something in your bio about an acting school in Atlanta.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, I was in Atlanta for a few years and opened an acting studio down there. But I'm teaching here in Brooklyn now at Terry Knickerbocker Studio.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, I know Terry Knickerbocker.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That's cool.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, And I teach on camera. So teaching the new the next generation.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, you know on camera is so important because almost no one teaches that.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, yeah. With self tapes being the thing now.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh my God.

[Jason McDonald]

And these kids who at Terry Knickerbocker, I call them kids. They're in their 20s, but I understand. You know, so they have no clue. They've been studying speech and voice and movement and all of in Meisner and they have no clue how to do a self tape or how to work on set.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So this was me for sure. We didn't have to self tape when I was Coming up. But I mean, the whole camera thing, you were just like, what's happening?

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's a lot to learn. But now with the self tape, part of me, I feel like the self tape seems nice because you have creative control. But then the thing that worries me about them all with the self tape is that you're also not getting that

[Kristin Davis]

immediate feedback in the room.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. And it's funny because I remember your show, and I would go out to Silver cup to audition, and it was. Was it Jennifer McNamara? Was that her name?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's incredible.

[Jason McDonald]

And she was so wonderful. And I. You know, just to be in the room and get feedback. And I knew they liked me. You know, they kept bringing me back for stuff and that. You don't have that anymore. You really don't.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

That's upsetting.

[Jason McDonald]

So here's the funny one, Kristen. So I get cut out of the season two, season three. They brought me back in for a few roles, and I didn't book them. I was like, well, well, you had a new showrunner. Right. Darren Starr was gone by season three. Right. And it was a new showrunner, Is that correct?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Well, I mean, he'd been around since season one as a writer, but yes. Michael Patrick was then in charge.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I mean, he was really. He was. I mean, it depends who you ask. Right. Like, I remember, I've. I felt like Darren had already kind of left. Like when I see, like, this. This episode that we're rewatching this week is 2:17, which is kind of late in the third season, and Darren wrote it, but I think at this point, he was kind of coming and going, whereas Michael Patrick was just only, like, fully focused on us and writing, directing, executive producing, and then he goes on to win Emmys and do movies and all the things. Right. But Darren. I think Darren loves to create. Right. That's his main thing that he loves. And he has self described himself as a shark where he needs to keep moving. So he, you know, he's always trying to find the next thing. And I don't know that he enjoys the going on and on season after season so much. You know what I mean?

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. It's funny. Cause what season are they on On Emily in Paris? Like season eight or season five. Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So I think. Yeah, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean. And I think it's great that he stayed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Jason McDonald]

It's funny. I got in a room in front of him in a callback for something years after Sex and the City, and he was like, you're familiar to me. And I was like, well, let me tell you a. And he was like, I have zero recollection of that. I'm like, I'm sure. I'm sure you. I'm sure you don't know.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I can't believe they didn't bring you back in season. Season four or whatever it was. Shame on them.

[Jason McDonald]

I moved to LA shortly after that, so I was kind of, like, out of the New York loop, but got it. Did your producers show you the photos that I have from us? No. Oh, my God.

[Kristin Davis]

What?

[Jason McDonald]

This is crazy. You and I had all this downtime for some reason, and we. You. You grabbed a Polaroid from wardrobe. I love Polaroids.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I love Polaroids.

[Jason McDonald]

I found them a few years ago and scanned them.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, my God, they're adorable. I'm seeing them now. We're gonna put them on the Instagram.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow, we look young. My good lord in heaven.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I mean, we're like. We look like we're 20.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Maybe that's why I love Polaroids. They have that weird kind of like, 70s appeal to them. Funny.

[Jason McDonald]

Isn't that funny that I found those and I showed them Jen. I showed them to Jenny when we were working on Flatch, and she was like, how do you have these photos? And I was like, well, I had these Polaroids and I scanned them.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Like, I love it so much. I love it so much. Now take me back a little bit to your life. Like, what. What were you doing at this point in time when these pictures were taken? Like, were you. Were you still bartending? Were you acting? Like, were you. What were you into?

[Jason McDonald]

Like, I was. I did a bunch of. A lot of commercials, but still bartended. And then I did, you know, All My Children One Went to Live as World Turns, Guiding Light. I did them all the New York. So, you know, and I recurred on. I recurred on as World Turns and Another World, and. But I wasn't getting much traction in TV and film, so then my agency here opened an office in L. A. So I moved out there for six years.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Got it.

[Jason McDonald]

But, you know, I was just that, you know, that actor who. I had gone to Circleman Square theater school. I'd graduated and knew nothing about TV and film and was just kind of, like, bungling along. And you. You know, I just will always remember how kind you were to me as a. As a sort of a green actor. You know, you were. You were.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I was so glad. I'm getting the feeling. And I don't know what was Going on in my personal life, I'm getting the feeling I might have had a little crush. Okay. Because I don't know, I can't think of another actor who came on her show that I took Polaroids of, like, what was going on. And I also, like, I can't think of another actor where I pushed them up against the thing and kissed them. I'm sure that was in the script, but, like, usually it was the other way around. Do you know what I mean? But it's all very interesting. And apparently I fumbled the ball somewhere, so, you know, my fault, my bad.

[Jason McDonald]

Oh, funny. Because I was married at the time and.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Okay, okay, well, that's good then.

[Jason McDonald]

And I'm telling you, Kristen, two weeks after we shot my wife at the time, my ex wife, she said to me, she said, so, are you still in love with Kristen Davis? Is it still going on? I was like, yeah, yeah, I am. Okay.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

This is all very fascinating. It's like the road not taken. You know what I'm saying? This is sad, though. Okay, so wait, let's get this straight now. I need clarity. You were married.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

When you came on the show, I took Polaroid pictures of you and apparently flirted a lot with you to the point where your wife at the time then said, are you still in love with Kristen Davis? But then also, you guys broke up.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So my timing was just basically, I am so sad about this now. And you live on the park in Park Slope, which I. I just feel like you've had a wonderful life. So I'm happy. I'm happy that it all worked out and you've gotten remarried. You're remarried. Okay. Got it. I'm glad that it's all worked out for you.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. I got remarried this past Christmas Eve.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, congratulations. That's nice.

[Jason McDonald]

And we got the full New York Times vows column. It was.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, my God. Oh, you're really living, like, the life. Wow. Wow, I'm impressed. And you have three dogs, so that's even.

[Kristin Davis]

Even more impressive. Yeah, I love it.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

This is really fascinating. I am so glad you emailed us. Wow. Wow. And wow, where are the Polaroids?

[Jason McDonald]

I mean, I have them on my phone on my computer, but I don't know where. They're actual physical copies. I don't know where they are, but they're.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Got it, got it, got it. But somewhere you had found them and smartly taken a picture of them. Good. We're gonna put them on the Instagram for everyone to see our young selves. That's really fun. And now I'm sad I wouldn't find the footage of the scene. Scenes.

[Jason McDonald]

Scenes. Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I mean, I do. I vaguely remember bridge, and I just thought it was coming. Like, sometimes when I'm watching the show, I think, oh, yeah, it's coming. You know what I mean? Because it's in my mind, but then I can't place where it should be, you know, in chronological order.

[Jason McDonald]

They had a bridge expert on set. Like, who taught us how to play

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

bridge is pretty hard.

[Jason McDonald]

None of us cared. None of us cared. We were just.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I'm sure we didn't care. I'm sure we didn't care. We would have an expert for everything. Like, if Sarah and I even had to do, like, two steps of a dance, we'd have, like, our choreographer there. Like, we were so nervous about everything, but I'm glad we didn't actually care. I do remember someone trying to teach us Brisha. I also remember someone trying to teach us mahjong, which is also, like, horribly.

[Jason McDonald]

That's hard. Yeah, really hard. That's kind of hard to fake, right?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So really hard to fake. Really hard to fake, though. I think there was. Right. Like, they had the. The writers had written it, one of them had played it and had written lines that if you said the lines properly, you would sound like you knew what you were doing.

[Jason McDonald]

Okay. Okay. All right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But, yeah, I remember both of them. I was just like, oh, no, I'm

[Kristin Davis]

really bad at games.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Okay. Wow. Well, I'm just really sorry. I just want to apologize for all of us. I feel bad. I know you're over it, but I feel bad because as an actor, it's just so painful. Like, you try to get these parts. You try to get these parts. You get these parts. You're excited, you go. You do the best you can do, and you're just waiting for them to come up on, and then it's gone.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That's sad.

[Jason McDonald]

It was. It was. At the time, it was a little rough. And, you know, I had. Had made postcards made, like, on Sex in the City and, like, mailed them out to people. Like, oh, my God. I know. The story gets worse, right?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Upset Amy. This is really upsetting me. But at least you got to be on Jenny's other show, so. So yay for Jenny. Yay for Jenny.

[Jason McDonald]

And she was amazing. And, you know, that show was such a. Such a. A little gem that no one watched, but it was really great this happened, right? Yeah. It's funny. I moved to la, like I said, shortly after we did our Episode and I had Sex and the City on my resume. And, you know, back in those days, you always went in person. And I remember, like, casting directors would be like, oh, what did you play in Sex in the City? So I feel like. So I finally just took it off my resume because I was like, I can't. I can't tell them. Yeah, well, I did this great role with. With Kristen Davis and I got cut. And. And here are the Polaroids. Here are the Polaroids now.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, my God. Yeah, we need to find these scenes and post them, like, as a little vignette, you know, like as their own little vignette. Wouldn't that be fun? I'm going to try to do it. I am going to try to do it. Darn it. Because I feel bad. I feel really bad. But I think you should put us back in your many, many 85 credits.

[Kristin Davis]

Good Lord.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You've been on everything ever made. And I'm just sad that somehow our little storyline just wasn't meant to be. It's tragic.

[Kristin Davis]

So tragic.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. It was a brief romance.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I know. A brief, brief romance. But it sounds fun. More fun than the other things that Charlotte was up to in this era. You know what I mean? Usually it was like some embarrassing something at that phase.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, well, like Mr. Pussy. Right?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Exactly. Mortifying. Mortifying. So wait, what was the ending? So I push you up against the bookcase and we kiss. And then what happens?

[Jason McDonald]

And then the host of the thing finds us and it's like, leave. You have to leave now. There's none of this, you know, this won't be tolerated or something. I don't remember. Oh, no.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And that's it.

[Jason McDonald]

We had to just skulk out of the bridge party. Yeah. And then that was it. I was done.

[Kristin Davis]

Gosh, it was cooked. We were like embarrassed school children.

[Jason McDonald]

We should ask Jenny because there might have been a subplot that she had a thing for me. That's why. And you kissing me was like, hey,

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

it could have happened. I don't think she was with her now husband at that point. I'm going to find out. I did talk to Jenny for the LA episodes and she was talking about how I believe her words were tragically single. All of the writers were at this point, so they were just using all of their stuff from real life, you know, in the show, which of course makes for a good show. But I'm gonna ask her now.

[Jason McDonald]

Oh, no. And I didn't mean. I didn't mean Jenny had a thing. I meant the character that had a thing for me. I'm like, no, I would never.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

No, no, I know, I know. But, I mean, I do think it's a way to, you know, exercise your own unfulfilled things. Yes, indeed. Yes, indeed. I mean, I do think it's kind of amazing that you met her in

[Kristin Davis]

a restaurant and then ended up on

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

our show and then many, many, many, many years later ended up on her show. I love it so much. Yeah, it's amazing.

[Jason McDonald]

And that. That zoom chemistry read or on Skype chemistry read I did with her and Paul Feig, it was, like, so much fun.

[Kristin Davis]

Paul's so great.

[Jason McDonald]

Just the best.

[Kristin Davis]

What a great guy.

[Jason McDonald]

The combo. Those two were just such a joy to work with and work for.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

They're wonderful. Paul is also good friends with Michael Patrick, our showrunner who took over that. You were saying after Darren left and they have houses in Arrowhead, like, Arrowhead. And we were up there and we ran into Paul, and I was like, oh, what a crazy little world.

[Kristin Davis]

I love.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I love these creative people, you know?

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, he's. And his. His style, like, the way he dresses. Oh, my God. It's just.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I know. He's super fascinating.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I just got the scarlet midi nap

[Kristin Davis]

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

and the costume department loved it and it felt so good and I still have it at home. Like when you score that rare Adidas

[Kristin Davis]

collab that's lived on your mood board or the Dior saddle bag that you

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

ripped right out of a magazine in 2007 and never got over.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, those. It's about the thrill and the pursuit of finding those pieces that feel like you.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

There's always more to discover.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Jason, I'm just so happy you emailed us because this is like an unfound,

[Kristin Davis]

you know, gem, like thank God you

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

are here to tell us the things that I don't always remember because it's like that shadow memory where you're like, I feel like there's something missing. Like sometimes I'll watch a show and take, I'll, there's something missing here and we need to find the footage. So now we're going to be on a new, a new journey of trying to uncover this footage.

[Jason McDonald]

Track that down. Yeah, it must exist, right?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I think it, it must exist somewhere. The question is, did it end up on those DVDs? Because that would be interesting because there have been a couple times where people will say, oh, X, Y or Z is, is on the dvd. And I'll, I'll just be shocked because I don't think I ever, I think at that point in time when the DVDs came out, I was just kind of trying to like, I wasn't really in a rewatching type of a mindset, you know, I was just trying to keep moving forward, you know. But now, many years later, it's fun

[Jason McDonald]

to rewatch did you rewatch the early stuff before you started the second iteration?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

No, uh, no, no, because it never would have entered my mind, like, for me, because, you know, we've played these characters for so long and because we're all still friends in life, so there was, like, a through line, even when we weren't publicly, you know, filming or whatever. It never entered my mind that I needed to catch up. You know what I'm saying?

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, sure.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I think it would have been interesting to do so, because as I'm rewatching now, I mean, there's so much I don't remember. But I also feel like one of the things that I think is interesting about playing a character for this long, which is so rare, of course, is that, you know, you change and grow and the character changes and grows with you to some extent. Right. Like, it's not like I am Charlotte and Charlotte is me, but we're all, All. All of us who are continuing on. We were, I think, 33 when we started the show or something roughly like that. And, you know, now and just like, that was into our 50s. And we're all living our lives, too. So, like, you don't necessarily need to match everything. And this is part of what people would get upset about, right? Like, oh, that character would never do that.

[Kristin Davis]

And that. No, people change and grow.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That.

[Kristin Davis]

That's life.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That's the joy of life, you know, you don't need to be, like, didactically committed to. Well, Charlotte wore her hair like this when she was 40, so she would wear her hair like this. I mean, it's. That's not how life is, you know?

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And thank God, right?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It would be boring if it was that way.

[Jason McDonald]

It's funny how people can really get into the nitty gritty of stuff, right, and think they know, but you're absolutely right. We change, we grow, we change, we grow.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And I mean, like, kind of our essence might not, you know, it's an interesting thing. Like, I think that. I mean, I think also for us, the thing that's interesting, too, is, like, because we have been friends this whole time, we don't have to second guess

[Kristin Davis]

things as much as I think you

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

would if you somehow were operating in a vacuum where you weren't in touch with the people, you know what I'm saying? Like, as a family, we're like a family group where we all see each other, you know, in New York or in LA or I went to Lake Harrow ahead with Michael, Patrick, whatever, you know what I'm saying? Different Things. Different things. We've got kids, we've got all different things.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But it creates a through line and a connectedness that can't be manufactured or changed, really. Right. Like, it's just fundamental in a way.

[Jason McDonald]

And then you develop a shorthand with those people, right?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes, exactly. Exactly. And then the writing does so much. Right. But they kind of write for us

[Kristin Davis]

at this point, you know, so it's, It's.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's all very interesting. I mean, at some point I hope I will get some objectivity about it. Just like that. I'm not quite there yet. It doesn't. I don't feel finished with the whole thing. Right. But on the other hand, I'm now looking back, so I'm getting. Gaining some perspective, some interesting perspective on

[Kristin Davis]

looking back at our. At our earlier. Earlier incarnations, you know?

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. I've. I have one more memory about that night that we.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Tell me. I can't wait.

[Jason McDonald]

I remember we broke for dinner at like 2am or something, and they served like sliced turkey. It was like a Thanksgiving type. And you were like. And you were like, oh, my God, Tryptophan. We're all going to be asleep. We're not. We're not going to eat this.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So what did I get? Did I get something else?

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, I mean, I. I think we ended up having something else, but you're like, don't eat the turkey. Don't eat the turkey.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Those are the weird things, you know, when you're working all night, you have to, like, do some weird things to stay perky, you know, like, you have to have some rules. And I guess no turkey is a pretty good rule at that point in time. We saw sunrise, you know, two or three times a week. Thursday, Friday, probably, definitely sometimes Wednesday, depending on the week and how we were doing. Like, it was super, super nutty. But that was just how we. How we had to do it. Partly because sometimes we had the, you know, exterior night scenes, but then we'd get so turned around that even if we didn't, like you said we were fully at Silver Cup. Right. So there we are, fully in the studio until sunrise, which you would never hear about now. Like, I don't feel like anyone does that now.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. I mean, everyone's so money conscious now and. Well, I mean, you guys were shooting on film, right? I mean, it was. It's a totally different thing. So.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Totally different thing. I know.

[Kristin Davis]

Much slower process, the olden days, man.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Slower in some ways. And then not because I remember back then we shot a lot more pages than we do when we would work most recently.

[Jason McDonald]

Oh, really? Okay.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, because we had to, like, we would do crazy things like if we were out somewhere, location wise, because locations in New York are so expensive. All of us remember that they would have like those really big lights and we would like roll them down the street. Like we'd have one location on one corner and then another location on the other corner. We roll the lights down the sidewalk in New York, like crazy times. And I remember at one point when we were going back to. And just like that, Sarah and I had this conversation of, you know, wouldn't it be great to go back to Wade the way that we used to film and we used to film so fast and, you know, so kind of guerrilla filmmaking in the streets. And we didn't do that. I don't even know. I don't even know if we could do that because I know Michael Patrick and I talked one time too. I think when you look back certainly at the first season and the second season of the show, there are some times where the, like the special effects and the lighting, they're not great, you know, it's kind of like charmingly nostalgic to look at, but they're not like amazing. Right. But I think once we made the films then everyone's expectations of what it would look like visually really just bumped up. But also, even in this third season, like when I watched the third season of the show, our visuals are like, wow. You know, I mean, they're wow in a way of the time. Right?

[Kristin Davis]

Like long lenses in the city.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It was kind of like our 70s, you know, you know, Scorsese type, you know, vibe going on. But. And we obviously couldn't keep that going either. But I love it so much. But I think once we did the films, we really, we really got high expectations, I guess, in terms of our visuals. And we couldn't really go back, but

[Kristin Davis]

it would have been nice to go

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

back just in terms of being quick.

[Kristin Davis]

But I just don't know if you can do it that way these days, you know.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah, I know.

[Kristin Davis]

It's a different time.

[Jason McDonald]

It is. You know, that was part of the fun thing for me working on welcome to Flat, which with Jenny and Paul was that, you know, there was a lot of improv and there was a lot of just, you know, we would do a couple takes as scripted and Paul would be like, okay, just, just, just, you know, let's just have fun with this. Amazing. And that felt so different to me, especially for a network half hour comedy that Was, like, unheard of. Yeah. But because it was Paul and Jenny.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Jason McDonald]

They were. They were given free reign, and we. We had so much fun and so much stuff that ended up on the show was just, like, stuff that happened in the moment. And wow. That felt really, like, wow, this is special.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I need to watch this show. I somehow did not watch it either, which I don't know where I was. Like, how.

[Kristin Davis]

How could I miss Jenny's whole show?

[Jason McDonald]

I know. Two seasons. Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Two seasons. Amazing.

[Jason McDonald]

It just kind of went under the radar and.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, I feel like that's also a problem of where we are right now. There's so much stuff.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And you can't, like, focus, you know?

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I love Jenny.

[Jason McDonald]

The strike. The strike killed us because we would have gotten. We would have been renewed for a third season. I heard that definitively. But the strike just messed up the timeline and everything, so that's so sad. But just. It was such a joy to get to work with Jenny Bix again and to work with her, like, you know, over multiple episodes. It was really, really fun.

[Kristin Davis]

I love Jenny and her writing.

[Jason McDonald]

Her writing's so good. Her writing on. On your show, on that show were just the best.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. She's great.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

She's great. We have her on the podcast anytime

[Kristin Davis]

I can get her on, I'm sure.

[Jason McDonald]

And she's up in Maine most of the time, isn't she?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

She is. The last time we Skyped or whatever. You know, whatever.

[Kristin Davis]

One of the things.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Thank God I'm not in charge of the technical.

[Kristin Davis]

But yes, yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

She's living her. Her fabulous life, but also writing and, you know, doing great.

[Jason McDonald]

Yeah. Good.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Well, you are, Joy. And I'm just so sad that we're not immortalized in our show together.

[Jason McDonald]

No. Maybe that footage exists. Maybe. Maybe.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I'm gonna find it. I'm gonna. I'm gonna. I'll keep you posted. Thank you for saving those Polaroids. You're taking pictures of those Polaroids or whatever, right?

[Kristin Davis]

I love it.

[Jason McDonald]

Crazy.

[Kristin Davis]

Amazing.

[Jason McDonald]

Well, thanks for having me.

[Kristin Davis]

It's my pleasure.

[Jason McDonald]

So excited to be on here and just to get to reconnect with you.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And me too. Thanks for emailing.

[Jason McDonald]

All right, well.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

All right. Have a great day.

[Jason McDonald]

Great day. Bye. Thank you.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Bye.

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