It’s a Baguette with Timothy Gibbs... (S3 E17 "What Goes Around Comes Around")

Summary

---

Podcast Summary: "It’s a Baguette with Timothy Gibbs...”

Podcast: Are You a Charlotte? (iHeartPodcasts)
Host: Kristin Davis
Guest: Timothy Gibbs (Detective Stevens, Sex and the City S3 E17)
Episode: S3 E17, “What Goes Around Comes Around”
Release Date: March 2, 2026

---

Overview

In this episode, host Kristin Davis reconnects with actor Timothy Gibbs, who guest-starred as Detective Stevens in the memorable Sex and the City episode "What Goes Around Comes Around." The conversation is a warm, insightful look into the making of the episode—including juicy behind-the-scenes stories—Timothy’s acting journey, and the impact of fleeting fame. With laughter, honesty, and a touch of nostalgia, the two discuss their shared Southern roots, post-acting chapters, and the contributions of Sex and the City to pop culture.

---

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Catching Up: From South Carolina & LA to Small Town Living

[04:05–08:08]

• Kristin and Timothy bond over their shared origins in South Carolina.
  • Kristin: “I love Charleston. I’m from Columbia.” (04:22)
• Timothy describes his move from LA to a small town near Charleston, opening an antique and farmhouse furniture shop after retiring from acting.
  • Timothy: “We have an antique and fine art store here... That’s my primary business now.” (07:18)
• Kristin reflects on the evolving nature of acting careers.

2. Child Acting, Relationships, and Reinvention

[08:08–13:22]

• Timothy’s unique route: starting as an 11-year-old in commercials, thanks to a football coach’s offer during the '70s actors’ strike.
  • Timothy: “I ended up in San Francisco shooting this commercial... that puts you into the union. Right.” (11:09)
• He credits his large family and supportive parents for protecting him from many child actor pitfalls.
• Timothy candidly discusses struggles in adulthood—substance use, relational challenges—and meeting his wife, which anchored him.
  • “I wasn’t always grounded and I wasn’t always whole... It wasn’t until much later... when I found [my wife], everything started to kind of come around.” (12:32–13:22)

3. Sex and the City Guest Spot: A Moment in the Spotlight

[13:24–16:44]

• At the time, Timothy was on One Life to Live and had just received a Daytime Emmy nomination.
  • “I think I had just come off of...an Emmy nomination...then I got this role.” (13:33)
• He describes auditioning with director Alan Coulter and quickly landing the part.
• Kristin and Timothy discover they didn’t actually meet on set due to their characters’ separate storylines.
  • Kristin: “Like, I don’t think we ever met.”
    Timothy: “No, we didn’t. We didn’t meet. If I’m totally honest, I wanted to meet you more than, than any of us.” (15:01–15:11)
• The episode was filmed during a particularly busy, almost chaotic, stretch of the series' third season.

4. The Infamous Deleted Scene: Miranda, Sex, and Soup

[16:44–21:02]

• Kristin asks about a legendary, unaired scene: Miranda (Cynthia Nixon) vomiting on the detective during sex, involving a "soup cannon."
  • Kristin: “Is it my imagination or was there a part... where she throws up on you while you’re having sex?” (16:44)
  • Timothy: “Oh my God. It’s true...They fired this stuff out of the cannon and it’s like projectile, like horizontal across the screen, just right into my face.” (17:37–18:51)
• The scene was cut because it was too over-the-top—even "Linda Blair on masculine"—and replaced with Miranda finding a note and an AA phone number.

5. Iconic Fashion and Cinematic Moments

[21:02–26:20]

• Kristin shares her favorite style moment: Carrie in the newspaper print Dior dress, a shot she calls unbelievably beautiful and emblematic.
  • “I could watch it over and over again... She’s very much framed by strangers passing behind her and cars passing in front of her. It’s just so incredibly beautiful...” (21:43)
• Discussion of the show's technical excellence: writing, direction (Alan Coulter), camera, and costumes.

6. On-Set Stories and Lasting Impact

[28:30–37:23]

• Kristin praises Timothy’s dignified, focused portrayal—an unusually respectful male “guest star” role.
  • “The thing that I love about your part—it’s kind of unusual for a man who’s kind of a guest star type of guy.” (28:30)
• Timothy shares that audiences (even now) compliment his hands, based on a restaurant scene.
  • “The comment I would get... was, ‘You have really nice hands.’” (30:33)
• Both reminisce about the show’s success, its relatable characters, and how even small guest roles turned into pop culture touchstones.
• They agree on the importance of grounded, flawed, and authentic storytelling.

7. Behind-the-Scenes Chemistry (and Lack Thereof)

[37:23–40:29]

• Kristin explains that, surprisingly, none of the main cast read together before filming, and casting came down to last-minute decisions and luck.
  • “It was magic because none of us read together, you know. Now they would do the chemistry [reads].” (37:23)
• Her journey to being cast: She was first sent the script for Carrie, but identified more with Charlotte.

8. Fame, Fans, and Life After Acting

[47:49–58:12]

• Timothy describes the wave of recognition from both Sex and the City and voicing Max Payne in video games.
  • “This thing airs and I start getting stopped on the street in New York... asking me if I was on the show. Did you play? Hey, were you Officer Stevens?” (50:02)
• Discussion of why Timothy left acting for a quieter life:
  • “When I found an opportunity to be grounded... I felt like I had been hugged.” (52:19)
• They reflect on how acting and fame shape— but don’t always define—happiness or satisfaction.

9. Final Thoughts: The Joy of Ordinary Life

[58:23–60:33]

• Timothy shares his enthusiasm for building antique furniture in small-town South Carolina and invites Kristin to visit.
  • “We build this very old, very old primitive stuff... So this is my life now.” (58:29)
• Both wax poetic on the joys and pros/cons of small-town versus big-city life.

---

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the soup cannon scene:
  “They fire this stuff out of the cannon and it’s like projectile, like horizontal across the screen, just right into my face and in my mouth and in my chest... They looked at that, apparently... and were like, no, we can’t. It’s like Linda Blair on masculine. We can’t, we can’t do this.”
  — Timothy Gibbs (18:38)

• On fame after SATC:
  “It was, when it was airing... I was getting stopped all the time... And that of course was, you know, in the, over the years in which I was an actor, I didn’t quite have that kind of notoriety... I was gratified by that, actually. I thought it was fun to meet all those people...They would always ask me about you guys.”
  — Timothy Gibbs (50:02)

• On the show’s magic:
  “That’s the thing that show did... you don’t feel the needle going in, but it did, from time to time, touch on something important... There’s a lesson in there, hidden away in all the laughs...”
  — Timothy Gibbs (36:20)

• On grounding and leaving acting:
  “When I found an opportunity to be grounded... I felt like I had been hugged... It is nothing short of amazing.”
  — Timothy Gibbs (52:19, 53:51)

---

Timestamps for Major Segments

• [04:05] — South Carolina roots & moving to small town
• [08:08] — Child acting origins; family influences
• [13:24] — Career crossroads and getting the SATC role
• [16:44] — The infamous deleted Miranda vomit scene
• [21:02] — Kristin’s favorite SATC fashion moment
• [28:30] — On playing Detective Stevens and guest star reflections
• [36:20] — The “Sam Jones” storyline & writing’s lasting lessons
• [37:23] — How the main cast was cast—no “chemistry reads”
• [47:49] — Dealing with fame & unexpected fan reactions
• [52:19] — Why Timothy left acting for family and furniture
• [58:23] — Life today (building furniture), joys of quiet living

---

Tone and Atmosphere

• Warm, candid, and reflective, with Southern-fried nostalgia and showbiz realism.
• The conversation is marked by humor (about “dignified” guest stars, soup cannons, and acting mishaps), gratitude, and curiosity about both each other’s current lives and the enduring legacy of Sex and the City.

---

For Listeners

This episode offers not only rare behind-the-scenes Sex and the City stories (including a never-aired gross-out moment!) but a universal meditation on life after the limelight, the twists of an acting career, and the happiness to be found in new chapters. The chemistry, as always, is genuine and generous—making this a must-listen for both SATC superfans and anyone interested in the journey from screen to small-town stillness.

Transcript

[Jill Winterstein]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

[Kristin Davis]

Before all the algorithm fed blah and the endless sea of dupes, shopping used to feel more fun. But here's a confession. Are you a Charlotte listeners? You can find that fun feeling again on ebay. It's not mindless scrolling, it's a fashion pursuit. I went on ebay to find a vintage Mugler jacket for the end of one of the seasons of and just like that where Charlotte had to look fantastic at the gallery and I found the most fantastic jacket there. So there's always more to discover. Ebay has millions of pre loved finds from hundreds of brands backed by ebay. Authenticity Guarantee Ebay Things People Love Spring is the perfect time to refresh your routine and that can be as simple as amplifying your look with clean beauty from Thrive Cosmetics. Their products are 100% vegan, cruelty free and made with skin loving ingredients that work with your skin, not against it. I passionately love many things that Thrive Cosmetics makes. One is the eyebrow tint and and one are the eyeshadow sticks. Love them. Love them so much and every purchase gives back. Thrive Cosmetics has donated over 150 million in products and funds to 600 plus giving partners. And if you haven't tried their viral Liquid Lash Extensions Mascara, it's a must. Get longer looking lashes with no clumping or flaking and they use nourishing ingredients supporting longer, stronger and healthier looking lashes over time. Amplify your spring look with Thrive cosmetics. Go to thrivecosmetics.com Charlotte for an exclusive offer of 20% off your first order. That's Thrive Cosmetics. C A U S E M E t I c s.com Charlotte Make Every Day feel epic in the all new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. The Palisade Hybrid is packed full of features, cutting edge tech, up to an EPA estimated 619 miles of range on select trims and class leading interior space. It's got an impressive 2.5T hybrid engine, an available class exclusive blind spot view monitor and available dash cam. This isn't just another SUV. Learn more at HyundaiUSA.com call 562314 or 4603 for complete details.

[Jill Winterstein]

Hi, it's Jill Interestine, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And today I'm talking with my dear friend Krista Williams.

[Kristin Davis]

It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change. Dance with the breakdowns.

[Jill Winterstein]

The embodiment of Pisces Intuition with Capricorn power moves.

[Kristin Davis]

Just so. I'm, like, delusionally proud of my chart.

[Jill Winterstein]

Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Kristin Davis]

Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Hi, everybody. Welcome to Are you a Charlotte? Today we are having a really interesting conversation with Timothy Gib, and he played the detective who comes when Carrie gets robbed on the street in episode 317, what goes around Comes around, which was written by Darren Starr, directed by Alan Coulter, and he's a fascinating guy. So please enjoy this conversation with Timothy Gibbs. How's it going?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Oh, it's going great. How about you?

[Kristin Davis]

Good. It's pretty good. It's pretty good. We're in la, and it seemed like the sky was gonna fall last night, but it didn't, so. So we're okay.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I've been. I've been looking at it on the news. I'm over here in South Carolina, and so. What.

[Kristin Davis]

Where.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I'm just outside of Charleston.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, I love Charleston. I'm from Columbia.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Oh, really?

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Do you know a little town called Ellery right between.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, not well, but yes, that's.

[Timothy Gibbs]

That's where we are. We have our store, and we have a couple of buildings here.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Timothy Gibbs]

On this little street with the one stoplight.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my gosh. How adorable.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, it's pretty great.

[Kristin Davis]

That's so sweet. Charleston is one of the absolute best cities. So you can just, like, zip over to Charleston.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, we love it. We're there a lot. And I mean, that's where you go for. For culture or anything, because we're. We're really this little community. It's tiny. I think we have now we're up to about 660 residents.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my gosh. How amazing.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, it's pretty cool. And it's an hour. It's an hour from Columbia, and it's an hour from Charleston.

[Kristin Davis]

I know my kids love Charleston and they love the beach so much. And when we go to see grandma in Columbia, they're like, are we going to the beach? We have to go to the beach. And sometimes we do, sometimes we don't.

[Timothy Gibbs]

How did you get from South Carolina to. To Hollywood? How did that happen?

[Kristin Davis]

You know, just drive, I guess. I. I just. I loved South Carolina. I love so many things about it. But at the same time, my parents had always taken me to New York to see theater. Every summer we would go, and to me, that was about the best thing that there was Right. So I was just like, I've gotta get outta here and get up there. I've gotta get to New York. I've gotta get to New York. And then I ended up wanting to go to acting school and I went to Rutgers. Cause they had an MFA BFA program. And you could kind of be there, but also go into the city to see shows. You were close enough to the city. My dad taught at usc, the South Carolina usc. So he felt really strongly about college. So I went to college at Rutgers, and then I moved right to the city. I was an actress waitress, you know, for a long time. And then I moved to la, and then I got work that took me back to New York. So it all worked out. But I do love the south and I do miss it.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah. Yeah. It was. I have lived every. I was actually. I did it in reverse. So I. I was born in Los Angeles.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And raised there.

[Jill Winterstein]

Wow.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And my father was. Was an airline pilot. Cool. Back in those days, you. They gave you. They gave the. The. The employee a thing called a term pass for each family member. And you could kind of take it, look like a little credit card with your picture on it. And you just walk up to the ticket counter and you'd say, oh, I want to go here. And they'd put you on standby, and off you'd go.

[Kristin Davis]

Amazing.

[Timothy Gibbs]

It was great. And I ended up traveling all over, and I've lived all over, but Amazing. Had never lived in the South. So we've been here now, my wife and our two children, we've been here now for going on five years.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow. I love it. I love it so much. That's a cool story.

[Timothy Gibbs]

It's been great. It's. It's been lovely. We have an antique and fine art store here. And. And I build. When I. I sort of retired from acting and I. I started building farmhouse furniture and. Whoa. I was doing it as sort of a hobby, and it just kind of took off. And that's. That's my primary business now. Wow. And that's what I do here.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my gosh. I love farmhouse furniture.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Oh, cool. Well, you gotta see some of our stuff. It's really cool. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, I'm. I'm, you know, basically a Southern girl, so it's all. It's all good. It's all good. This is very cool. I mean, I always love to catch up with people who are on our show because people are in such different places and doing such different things, which is very, very interesting, you know, because acting is obviously not always like your. Your forever thing that you want to stay in, right?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah. I think, you know, you. You know as well as I do that the folks who can not only build. Build a career, but one with notoriety in it and then maintain that over years and years, that's a really, really difficult and special thing to be able to do. I always admire that. The folks who have been able to do that. You're one of those people.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, thank you. Barely. Okay.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Well, you know, but it's. But it's. You know, I started when I was very, very young, and it all just sort of happened to me. I didn't really. I was too young to make it happen, so it had to happen to me.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And. And I've. I've always had a good relationship with. With the work and with the industry. I love it. I love the process. But I reached a point really where, you know, I think it was having children and finding the relationship. I found because I had struggled in. In. In the relationship area and mostly at my own doing, I hadn't really become the person that I needed to be to maintain a good quality relationship that was, you know, good. Good for. For both. And when I found that in my wife and. And found the kids, I really wanted to just plant myself. And we came back, we lived in Barcelona for 10 years.

[Kristin Davis]

Ooh.

[Timothy Gibbs]

We started our store in Barcelona, and when. Then we moved it to the United States, and it kind of took off here, and it made the decision for me, made it very easy.

[Kristin Davis]

That's super interesting. I mean, I do think also being born here is first of all so rare. Like, you almost never meet people who are born in Los Angeles, right?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Natives, right?

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, yeah. Very rare. And then also, I don't know how old you were when you started acting, but I could only imagine how kind of odd that is to be in it as a young person.

[Timothy Gibbs]

You know, I was 11 when it happened. I can tell you. I was playing Pop Warner football, which was Little league football. And my. My coach was a commercial director, and he. With great guys. Coach. Coach Blaine. Colin Blaine.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And he went to my parents during the actors strike of 1978.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And he said, I can't hire a union actor during the strike. But your son is perfect for this commercial I'm shooting, and it was for Ghirardelli chocolate chip cookies.

[Kristin Davis]

Amazing.

[Timothy Gibbs]

So he goes. He goes to my dad, and he goes, and my dad was coaching another team, and he goes, well, your son. Do you think. Do you think Tim would. Would want to eat chocolate chip cookies in a, in a commercial for me. And my dad said, well, given how he eats them at home, I would imagine yes, but, you know, go ask him. So he asked me and of course I said yes. I ended up in San Francisco shooting this commercial. And long story short, that puts you into the union. Right. You go through this, it's like a catch 22. You can't work if you're not in the union, but you can't get in the union if you haven't worked. And that's.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Offers that opportunity. Right. To make that magic trick work. And that's what happened to me. And the next thing I knew, I was auditioning for Michael Landon.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Timothy Gibbs]

For the spin off of Little House in the Prairie called Father Murphy. It was on NBC for a few years and I got that role and it changed everything.

[Kristin Davis]

Amazing. But, yeah, you seem very grounded and whole. You know, was there something that you did to get through being a child actor that helped you?

[Timothy Gibbs]

You know, I wasn't always grounded and I wasn't always whole.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I've, I've had. First of all, I'm the youngest of five kids and they've all played a role in one way or another of, of whole, you know, grounding me at different times. Certainly when I was a younger, when I was a child actor and had more notoriety. And I sort of went from one series to another at that time for a few years. I was too young to be. To struggle with some of those social things that you struggle with when you get older. And so I had that family around me. It was so easy. You know, my parents were, were really involved and they had us going from one thing to another. They didn't take an eye off us too much. So a lot of that stuff that happened to kids and child actors didn't happen to me. I was very, very fortunate.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, gosh. Good for them.

[Timothy Gibbs]

But later, you know, I've, I've, I, I had my own fair share of struggles and much of it was just self imposed, getting wrapped up in, you know, maybe too much drinking or, or maybe drugs, stuff like that.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh. I mean, there's so much of it,

[Timothy Gibbs]

you know, and I definitely had my fair share of years in there where I was putting more emphasis on going out and getting into trouble than I was on really anything else. And so that's not good. You're not really forming great relationships in that. And it wasn't until much later. I'm now almost 60, but I've. Patrie and I have been married now for almost 15 years. And it was when I met her that everything started to kind of come around.

[Kristin Davis]

That's so nice.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, it's amazing.

[Kristin Davis]

Help me put Sex and the City in the middle of this. Like, where were you in your career when you ended up being our incredibly good looking detective?

[Timothy Gibbs]

You know what, that was a big year for, for me. I was on a daytime soap opera at the time on One Life to Live, and I think I had just come off of. Just gotten an Emmy, Daytime Emmy nomination. And that was a big deal for me, of course. And, and, and then I got this role. I went in and auditioned for Alan, the director, and he just makes a decision sort of on the spot very quickly.

[Kristin Davis]

He's a great guy. We love so much.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, yeah, he's super talented guy too. So yeah. Walked in there and kind of walked out knowing that I was going to be on the show. And the thing that I knew about it, even though I think that was. I think it was season two.

[Kristin Davis]

It's season three. Season three. Our best season as far as I'm concerned.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Season three. And it was like already it was in, you know, at the flashpoint of the zeitgeist. Right. It was just. Well, I remember I did that show and then it aired and it was, it seemed like all the other work I'd done before where you'd get stopped in the airport once every third trip. Now you're. You're on Sex in the City. It doesn't matter whether you were a guest or, or not. People are gonna, are gonna recognize you and recognize your work. And that was a lot of fun. Good. I got a lot of questions. I didn't know the answer to a lot of questions about you guys.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, well, you really only worked with. Well, you worked with Sarah and Cynthia, but predominantly Cynthia.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, that's right.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, I don't think we ever met. That I know.

[Timothy Gibbs]

No, we didn't. We didn't meet. And if I'm totally honest, I wanted to meet you. I think I wanted to meet you more than, than, than any of us.

[Kristin Davis]

Well, why didn't we. Darn.

[Jay Shetty]

And I.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And I didn't. I didn't meet you. I remember talking to my buddy Paul was like, what's. What was it like? Did you meet Chris? And I said, no.

[Kristin Davis]

I wish I had met you too. I don't know. I must have been. I feel like in this episode I'm off in Connecticut with the Kyle's family, Trey family. And I do know we went to Connecticut, so I might have actually Physically, not even been around, you know.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah. You know, you know how it is on sets. You can, it's possible for you to, you know, it's possible for you to inhabit two roles that are, well, featured. You might not ever see each other.

[Kristin Davis]

It could be, it's true, but it's a bummer. It's a bummer because sometimes we would have read throughs where everyone would be there. But I don't know if at this point in the season, because I think at this point in the season, this is 3:17. So it was like back in the day where we used to make so many episodes in a season. Right.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I think we were hectic. You know, we'd gone to la, I think, and come back like we were, I think we just lost our minds at this point in the season.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, I, you know, I remember it being very, it felt to me anyway, like kind of an efficient machine that was moving very fast. Much faster than I expected.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Of course, you know, on daytime, in soaps, it moves so lightning fast.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, God. I was on a soap once. It was crazy.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, it is crazy. So you're like, you know, on a busy day, show your 30 pages of dialogue a day. And so I, I went there. It was like a vacation. A few lines here, a few lines there. And, and, and it was great. Sure.

[Kristin Davis]

I have a pressing question for you, though. I've been really curious about this. Is it my imagination or was there a part of this that you filmed with Cynthia where she throws up on you while you're having sex?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Oh, my God.

[Kristin Davis]

It's true.

[Jay Shetty]

It's true.

[Timothy Gibbs]

You're right. Yeah. Yeah, I'm right.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay. This is so crazy to me because, you know, they cut it out.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Oh, I know they cut it out. I, I, they cut it out and they changed the ending so that she wakes up with that massive hangover, stumbles down her hallway and finds a note. She thinks it's going to be his phone number and he's left her the phone number to aa.

[Kristin Davis]

It's so sad. It's so sad. So what do you remember, like. Because I remember there was a lot of discussion. There was soup. They put soup, like Campbell's soup in the thing and they put a tube and she had to throw up on you while you're having sex.

[Timothy Gibbs]

You're 100% right. It was the most. First of all, let's talk sex scenes in, in, in Hollywood. It's not, it's the most. It's mortifying. It's totally, you've Got, you know, a bunch of people around doing the various things that need to be done, from lighting to measuring your nose, trying to get the rolling around right and the kissing right. And the whole. It's just crazy. So with, of course, Cynthia made it easy. She's a total pro. The way they had this thing structured, right. I'm in her bed, I got the pillows behind me. She's straddling me. So I'm, you know, they've got me naked from the waist up and they've got her in the pasties. So she's got the bare back and they're over her shoulder or. No, no, for this particular shot, they're

[Kristin Davis]

like two shot, right?

[Timothy Gibbs]

They're in a two shot on the side and her profile is blocking the machine, which is basically like this massive, like 2 inch or 3 inch cannon that they've set up that's like air actuated.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And they filled it with, with, with. With chunky soup. Yes. And they. And then the way the scene was written was she's sort of, you know, I gotta go through it.

[Kristin Davis]

So she's sort of.

[Timothy Gibbs]

She's writhing on top of me and we're, you know, and. And I'm holding her and. And she's getting seasick from all the drinking that she did. Right. And so for whatever reason she felt inadequate, she drank herself through it. She starts to get sick, motion sickness. And she throws up on me. And they fire this, they fire this stuff out of the cannon and it's like projectile, like horizontal across the screen, just right into my face and in my mouth and in my. And in my chest. And I didn't have to do anything because I don't need to react really beyond. I mean, it's just. Well, they looked at that, apparently. This is what I heard. I heard they looked at it in post, of course, and they were like, no, we can't. I mean, it's like Linda Blair on, you know, on masculine. We can't, we can't do this.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh my God.

[Timothy Gibbs]

This is going to be indelible. They're only going to remember this. I'm imagining was their inner dialogue. But for whatever reason, they just thought it was too gruesome to be able to show it and they changed it. But a lot of people don't know that, you know, somewhere that footage exists.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. See, in my mind, it was so vividly written and I feel like somehow I might have seen the dailies because Cynthia used to love to watch her dailies and it was really extreme. Like, I Have a very vivid image of it in my mind. And I didn't really. I wasn't sure that they cut it out. But I do remember conversation about it, and I remember that the conversation was that it went too far in the embarrassment of Miranda.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Right, yeah, that makes sense.

[Kristin Davis]

Cause they do love to embarrass us. Like, all of the characters get embarrassed in different ways throughout the years. But this was kind of maybe just like too far.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I think so. I. I think so. I think maybe if they. I. I don't know. If they had somehow not shown the actual, you know.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Action of it all, maybe it would have worked. But. But, hey, listen, I think they ended up with a satisfactory ending.

[Kristin Davis]

All right, so this is my Hyundai hot take. Celebrating iconic moments, bold moves and unforgettable style. Just like Hyundai. I think that since we're talking about unforgettable style, I cannot choose anything except for Sarah Jessica walking down the street in the newspaper print Dior, because it's so beautiful. And not only is it so beautiful, it tells the story so beautifully of, you know, kind of where she's at. It's got the city, it's got the long lens, the way Ellen Coulter filmed her, the way the wind is blowing her hair. Because you know that. That is not a shot that we could have in any way affected the wind. Right. He's probably a whole block away. There are cars passing in front of her. I just think it's so beautiful that I could watch it over and over and over again. And the way that she's alone and there are these cars passing, which kind of obscure her, kind of. In the way that the character Carrie isn't clear in her life about what she's doing and about what she's done. And she's trying to come to kind of terms with her own actions in terms of having the affair with Big. And what does it mean? And now that he's separated from his wife and he's alone somewhere, but yet she's alone on the street, we're not with her. You know, she's very much framed by strangers passing behind her and cars passing in front of her. It's just so incredibly beautiful that I could watch it over and over again. And to me, it's crazy to think about how that was one moment in just a TV show at the time that was 25 minutes long. It blows my mind. And that's one of the joys of getting to rewatch the show, is that I'm just so impressed with everyone involved with our show the writers, the directors, our dp, our camera operators. Like everyone was just doing their best best work and I'm so proud of it. So that would be my Hyundai hot take. Presented by the all new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. Making everyday epic. Make every day feel epic in the all new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. The Palisade Hybrid is packed full of features, cutting edge tech up to an EPA estimated 619 miles of range on select trims and class leading inter space. The new Palisade Hybrid is redefining what it means to drive an suv. For starters, let's talk about interior space. It's class leading, which is just a fancy way of saying that the whole crew and everyone's going to be comfy. You've got seating for seven or eight passengers and yes, that available third row power seating that reclines. Game changer. There are available front and second row relaxation seats. Basically a spa day on wheels. And an available class exclusive blind spot view monitor that shows you a video feed of your blind spot right in the dash. How smart is that? There's even an available class exclusive built in dash cam. So whether it's a scenic drive or someone cuts you off and pretends like it didn't happen, you've got the receipts. And if you're all about the sound experience like me, the available Bose 14 speaker audio system is going to blow you away. I also love the tech forward touches like standard 100 watt USB C ports because fast charging is non negotiable these days. And the standard passenger talk intercom that lets you chat with people in the back without yelling. Ah moms, you know what I'm talking about. Ready to upgrade your ride? Learn more about the Hyundai [e-mail] Call 562-314-4603 for complete details. Before all the algorithm fed blah and the endless sea of dupes, shopping used to feel more fun. But here's a confession. Are you a Charlotte listeners? You can find that fun feeling again on ebay. Because on ebay it's not just shopping, it's a full on fashion pursuit. And when you find the thing, that adrenaline hit is real. I went on to ebay to look for a super special vintage jacket for Charlotte to wear to the gallery and I found the most amazing Mugler jacket and the costume department loved it and it felt so good and I still have it at home. Like when you score that rare Adidas collab that's lived on your moogle mood board or the Dior saddle bag that you ripped right out of a magazine in 2007 and never got over. Yeah, those. It's about the thrill and the pursuit of finding those pieces that feel like you. There's always more to discover. Ebay has millions of pre loved finds from hundreds of brands backed by ebay. Authenticity guarantee eBay things people love hi,

[Jill Winterstein]

this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver.

[Kristin Davis]

The Irish traveler said when I was 16. You're going to have a terrible time with men.

[Jill Winterstein]

Actor, storyteller and unapologetic Aquarian visionary, Aquarius is all about freedom, loving and different perspectives and I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are Misunderstood A Sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house Spark her unconventional approach to partnership.

[Kristin Davis]

He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all.

[Jill Winterstein]

If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into the how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I'm joined by Luke Combs, award winning country music artist and one of the most authentic voices in music today. Luke opens up about success, self doubt, mental health and what it really takes to stay true to who you are when your life changes overnight.

[Luke Combs]

I hate fame. I hate the word celebrity. I hate those words. They make me uncomfortable. But I think when you get to a certain point, the fame or the success or the influence, it just accentuates and exacerbates the inherent person that you are. The guy that says he's always going to be there and that what do anything to be there is the only guy that's not there. I'm in Australia when Bo is born. My whole identity is that no matter what, I'm going to prioritize my wife and my children over my job. I dread the conversation with my son.

[Jay Shetty]

What do you think you'd say listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts?

[Kristin Davis]

Well, you have a lot of dignity. Your part. You have a lot of dignity. Like the thing that I love about your part it's kind of unusual for a man who's kind of a guest star type of guy, right? You know, you come, you're the detective. When Sarah gets. Carrie gets held up in the street, which is also really odd. A very odd scene, right? Like this guy pulls his gun out and she kind of thinks it's a joke, which I kind of understand because it's total daylight. It's all very odd. And then you come, you're very professional. You know, you're very good looking, but you're very professional. And then Miranda shows up and the first thing you say to her is something about like, oh, maybe you should read me my Miranda rights or come with me and read the Miranda, right? A funny little joke. Like, you're like. You have a interesting combination of like, dignity, you know what I'm saying? Because you're the cop and you're not really, like overdoing it, but you're also kind of flirty and good looking and interesting. So she's all like a flutter. And then Carrie is like trying to get your attention while you two are talking. She's like standing on her toes and stuff. Do you remember this?

[Timothy Gibbs]

It's really funny. I love the. The scene where she gets jacked for her Manolo Blahniks, which was part of that. And I'll tell you some of the things that I liked about this, the way they. That Alan also his direction. So when we were in the restaurant, and I've had a lot of comments about this when we were in the restaurant, Alan told me, you know, your attention is on her. That all this external attention this character is getting, you don't notice that at all. And of course, it makes complete sense that he. It goes to supporting the idea that he's entirely enamored with her. And I love the way that read when I watched it, when I watch it in the episode. I love the way that. That simple little thing. It's not even the dialogue really, it's just the action that, that this guy is genuinely focused on her and not on any of this external energy that he's getting. And I liked the. The character for that. I think that's part of where the dignity of the character comes from.

[Kristin Davis]

Yep.

[Timothy Gibbs]

There was another thing that happened that. That happens a lot as a result, which is kind of anecdotal, but it's funny. The comment, I'm not kidding. The comment I would get the most of consistently from people who knew me and didn't know me was, you have really nice hands. And that was what they would say. And I came away from that. I mean, as an actor, I came away thinking maybe I should be a hand model.

[Kristin Davis]

Totally. That's exactly what I thought. That's what went through my head, which

[Timothy Gibbs]

is not great for an actor to think. It's not a great review, right?

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, no, it's a good review. That's a nice thing.

[Timothy Gibbs]

No, it was. That experience was a great one. And here you have an example of something that was a small little blip in terms of the time that it took. But because it was such a popular program and because you guys had landed so solidly with the public, they. They come on. I mean, they still devour that show. I still watch that show. I love watching that show. It's. It's not only a love letter to New York, which is an aspect of it that I, that is near and dear to me. I, I can't not watch something that's a love letter either to LA or New York. But it's also just the, the nature of what you talked about earlier, how they made you guys very human when they made fun of you, you know.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. With your struggles, the whole. Yeah. I mean, our writers obviously are, you know, excellent and the reason in our minds for the success. We were just lucky as actors, you know, to, to. To get that job. Right. But I love, like, and that's what I love about, about there's a few, A few guys. And I'm trying to think now of other ones. It's hard to even think of other ones where, you know, like Miranda, because of her insecurity, because she feels like you're better looking than she is, which is so relatable and adorable. She messes up, right? Like, she messes up a good thing because you have all the dignity. You're a cop. You're totally focus. Focused on her, even though the whole restaurant is looking at you, which is also kind of an interesting. It's like a, you know, you're like the really good looking girl, but with a heart of gold, like totally focused and professional and appropriate and all of the things. Right. And it would have still been true if they had kept in the. The throwing up part because you're also like, you know, like, what are you supposed to do with that? Right. But without it. And writing the AA note, also amazing. You know what I'm saying? Like, I love the arc.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, I do. I get it. He was, he was a good, he was a good guy.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And it's still when I watch the episode I know. I'm kind of taking us off on a.

[Kristin Davis]

You can go anywhere.

[Timothy Gibbs]

You're probably going to get this. You're probably. If you haven't gotten to it before me, you're going to get to it. I thought that the character who, for me, stole that show was. Was the. The actor who played Sam.

[Kristin Davis]

It's so funny. I haven't talked about it yet. It's so funny. I know. Who is that guy?

[Timothy Gibbs]

I don't know. He was absolutely hysterical.

[Kristin Davis]

He really was.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I mean, everything from the voice to the temperament. And when he starts to get, like, needy. How funny.

[Kristin Davis]

That was so funny.

[Timothy Gibbs]

The sex scenes were hilarious.

[Kristin Davis]

Hilarious. Hilarious. And a lot of that is Alan Coulter, too, as you said. Like, he. The way that. I think Alan Coulter makes actors feel very comfortable. Right. Which is really nice. And then he's also really creative about the shots and how he does them. And I had 100% forgotten that entire storyline. Like, sometimes when I'm watching, I'm really watching for the first time. Cause I don't remember anything really. And I didn't remember that storyline, not for one tiny second. I was like, who is Sam Jones? What is this? I didn't know. And then it's this. And I don't know who that actor is. I don't know why he has that accent. Like, what was going on?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Oh, it's so good. It was so good.

[Kristin Davis]

It was great. And also, it's so funny the way that the writing. Because so the basic gist for anyone who doesn't remember is that Sam is. Samantha is at home in her new loft. And she's getting all these phone calls about this party, this big blowout that she's throwing. And all these guys are calling to say that they're coming. So that kind of piques her interest. Cause she doesn't know what they're talking about. And then she calls the guy that she says something to. One of the guys calling her to. To confirm going to the party. She says, like, who? You know, who. What party? And he tells them where. And it's a. It's.

[Timothy Gibbs]

It's.

[Kristin Davis]

It's. It's like a downtown, you know, it's by Washington Square Park. Right. So she thinks it's very posh. Because of course, you would think an address down there would be very posh. Well, it's New York University, so it's like a house in a dorm, which is so mortifying. She makes Carrie go, I had not remembered any of this. It's really funny. They go in there and Carrie's like, you know, don't tell anyone we did this. So they go in and there's all these young people, and she goes up to the guy who is Sam Jones also, and he tells her he's a virgin, I believe, which is also really funny. And you can see her eyes light up. But then she's like, no, no, we're gonna leave. You know, which is the right thing to do. And then he pursues her or whatever, right? Like, he comes over. It's crazy. And they have, like, very athletic sex. Very athletic and creatively filmed sex. And he's, of course, thrilled, you know, and she's, of course, like, not really thrilled, though she does seem worn out, but not like. She's not in her Samantha Jones way excited, right? But he is very excited and tells her he loves her and she's like, bye, bye.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, exactly. And then he just starts to devolve, right? And, you know, I found that whole thing to be kind of poignant, but also extremely funny and touching. That's the sort of. That's the thing that show did, is you. You don't feel the needle going in, but it did, from time to time, touch on something important or something. There's a lesson in there. They're very often a lesson in there, hidden away in all the laughs and all of that. That's what made it so. I think it was one of the things that obviously, it's your chemistry, you guys. They got so lucky when they cast that show and they figured out, because, you know, at any given place, that could have gone off the rails or not worked from a chemistry point.

[Kristin Davis]

That's true.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Because there's a lot of. There's a lot of you. There's a lot of you there.

[Kristin Davis]

You know, there are a lot of us there.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Right. And so it just. It was magic that that chemistry and everything worked out the way that it did.

[Kristin Davis]

It's true. It's true. And it was magic because none of us read together, you know, now they would do the chemistry. Yeah.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I thought that you. I would have thought for sure that you read together.

[Kristin Davis]

No, no, no, no. That's why it's also just kind of odd, you know, it's like kismet or whatever. It's a strange thing.

[Timothy Gibbs]

So walk me. Walk me through what? What. How did you. How did it work out for you that you get this. Obviously, your agent calls you. You get this audition?

[Kristin Davis]

Because I already knew Darren Starr, who actually wrote this episode. Is that right? Am I correct? Yeah. Darren Starr wrote this episode, which is interesting because I didn't realize. I know, it's a great episode. I didn't realize. Darren has described himself in interviews as being like a shark. Like he has to keep moving. So he likes to create shows and then move on, generally speaking. So I knew him because he cast me on Melrose. And right after Melrose, he left. And I was like, oh, no, my guy left. Cause he was the only guy who seemed to understand my character. So then they were like, we don't know, know what to do with this character. And so they killed me off, which was fine. I did, I think, 36 episodes, some insane amount of episodes of that show. And then he had thought to himself that he was tired of regular network stuff and he wanted to go to hbo, even though HBO wasn't really known for original programming. So he, he options Candace Bushnell's book of the column Sex and the City, and he takes it to hbo and he makes a deal at hbo and they're going to make this pilot. And it was kind of, you know, for all the actresses in la, it was like, what, like four women stomping around New York City in outfits like they're in charge. Like what? Like it was unheard of, you know, and it still is kind of unheard of, which is a sad commentary, I think, on our business. But at the time, which was, I think, 1997, that's when we got cast in the pilot. It was, you know, like just, I remember just thinking. So the short version of the story, he sends me the script because they had wanted Sarah Jessica to play Carrie. She was getting cold feet about, about committing to a television show. So he sent me the script with a little note that said, kristen read this for the role of Carrie. And I was like, I can't play this Carrie part. Ah. Because I knew myself and I was very southern at that point inside, even though I don't know if people knew that or not or whatever. And I thought I was Charlotte because I related much more to Charlotte. So I said, darren, I, I, I, I can't play this part. I've got to play this other, this one over here. And he was like, okay, all right. So then I went in for, to test. I didn't have to do anything but test because he knew me. I go into test. And they seemed very unsure about everything except for Sarah Jessica, because at that point they had really, like, put all their, their eggs in that basket. They really wanted Sarah. They were talking to comedians about Samantha. They, they had asked Kim and Kim had said No. I think she said no twice. So they were kind of in this thing between Sarah Jessica and Kim. Sarah Jessica and Kim. No one had ever met anyone except Cynthia and Sarah knew each other from Broadway and they had worked together before. But no one ever had anyone read together as these parts or whatever. Not at all.

[Timothy Gibbs]

That surprises me. That's crazy.

[Kristin Davis]

Make every day feel epic in the all new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid the Palisade Hybrid is packed full of features, cutting edge tech up to an EPA estimated 619 miles of range on select trims and class leading interior space. The new Palisade Hybrid is redefining what it means to drive an suv. For starters, let's talk about interior space. It's class leading, which is just a fancy way of saying that the whole crew and everyone's going to be comfy. You've got seating for seven or eight passengers and yes, that available third row power seating that reclines. Game changer. There are available front and second row relaxation seats, basically a spa day on wheels and an available class exclusive blind spot view monitor that shows you a video feed of your blind spot right in the dash. How smart is that? There's even an available class exclusive built in dash cam. So whether it's a scenic drive or someone cuts you off and pretends like it didn't happen, you've got the receipts. And if you're all about the sound experience like me, the available Bose 14 speaker audio system is going to blow you away. I also love the tech forward touches like standard 100 watt USB C ports because fast charging is non negotiable these days and the standard passenger talk intercom that lets you chat with people in the back without yelling. Ah moms, you know what I'm talking about. Ready to upgrade your ride? Learn more about the Hyundai palisade@hyundai USA.com Call 562-314-4603 for complete details. Before all the algorithm fed blah and the endless sea of dupes, shopping used to feel more fun. But here's a confession. Are you a Charlotte listeners? You can find that fun feeling again on ebay. Because on ebay it's not just shopping, it's a full on fashion pursuit. And when you find the thing that adrenaline hit is real. I went on to ebay to look for a super special vintage jacket for Charlotte to wear to the gallery and I found the most amazing Mugler jacket and the costume department loved it and it felt so good and I still have it at home. Like when you score that rare Adidas collab that's lived on your mood board or the Dior saddle bag that you ripped right out of a magazine in 2007 and never got over? Yeah, those. It's about the thrill and the pursuit of finding those pieces that feel like you you. There's always more to discover. Ebay has millions of pre loved finds from hundreds of brands backed by ebay. Authenticity guarantee eBay things people love Hi,

[Jill Winterstein]

this is Jo Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver.

[Kristin Davis]

The art Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're gonna have a terrible time with men.

[Jill Winterstein]

Actor, storyteller and unapologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom loving and different perspectives and I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius like are Misunderstood, A Sun and Venus in Aquarius in her seventh house Spark her unconventional approach to partnership.

[Kristin Davis]

He really has has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all.

[Jill Winterstein]

If you're navigating your own transformation or just want a chart side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity and real life, this episode is a must. Listen Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose Podcast. I'm joined by Luke Combs, award winning country music artist and one of the most authentic voices in music today. Luke opens up about success, self doubt, mental health and what it really takes to stay true to who you are when your life changes overnight.

[Luke Combs]

I hate fame. I hate the word celebrity. I hate those words. They make me uncomfortable. But I think when you get to a certain point, the fame or the success or the influence, it just accentuates and exacerbates the inherent person that you are. The guy that says he's always going to be there and that will do anything to be there is the only guy that's not there. I'm in Australia when Bo is born. My whole identity is that no matter what, I'm going to prioritize my wife and my children over my job. I dread the conversation with my son.

[Jay Shetty]

What do you think you'd say listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kristin Davis]

So Cynthia was in New York. I was in la. They had tested Cynthia as well. She told this story when she came on the podcast. And then they were. They. For both of us, they let it go. You know how when they. When you test, you have like a set period of time that they have to tell. It's like two weeks or something like this. They had gone to the 11th hour for her and not told her. So her manager was calling them basically saying, you're gonna lose Cynthia because it was still pilot season. Remember in the days of pilot season?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yep.

[Kristin Davis]

She's. They. Her manager was calling them every hour saying, you're gonna lose her. You're gonna lose her. She's getting on a plane to go to LA to shoot a pilot. And if you don't get her before then, she's gonna do this other show. Because really, she didn't want to go do this other show in la. She wants to stay in New York and do our show. So the manager had to. Emily had to do her managerial thing, Right?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Of course.

[Kristin Davis]

Mine, mine. I'm like, dying, like, so tortured by having to wait. Like, every day I'm calling my lawyer. Every day I'm calling my manager. Every day I'm calling my agent. Like, did they call you? Did they call you? What is happening? I'm just, like, out of my ever loving mind. So on the final day, they still hadn't called. And so I went to the movies in the daytime down at Santa Monica amc just to try to get through a couple hours.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I've been there. I've been there.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. It's so hard. And I remember being in the parking lot, I had my little clunky cell phone at the time, in the beginning of the cell phones. And I called my manager, like, what? Did you hear anything? And he was like, yeah. They finally said, yeah, but they seem kind of on the fence. And I was like, ah, well, I'll just go do it.

[Timothy Gibbs]

It'll be all right.

[Kristin Davis]

And I went and did it. And then they tried to demote me to recurring. It's a long story, but worked out. It all worked out.

[Timothy Gibbs]

It worked out beautifully. And I. So they answered. They answered their question of whether or not you were Charlotte.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And I think you answered it really well.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you. So wait, tell me a little bit. You. You alluded to it, but. So tell me what it was like when the show aired and you'd be walking around. What did people say to you?

[Timothy Gibbs]

You know, it was amazing. First of all, I had that year was quite a year for me where two things happened that Were, were unexpected. They were different jobs for me. Sex and the City, of course, was one of them. And then I did. I was called. This is funny. I was called, well, okay, my agent in New York gets a submission from, from these fellas that come over from Europe and they're producing a new video game that's a sequel to another one. It's called Max Payne. It was the sequel to Max Payne. It was, it was the game. But they said what we're doing is looking for an actor because we're going to actually capture not just the motion, but we're going to capture his face and his movements.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, God.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Through the graphic novel and into the game. And it's like this two and a half month experience and we are looking for someone who looks like this guy. And they put. They gave my picture to my agent.

[Kristin Davis]

No way.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah. Swear.

[Kristin Davis]

That's freaky.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Totally. My agent calls me because you're not going to believe this, but I was just given your picture and told to find a guy that looks like you. And I said, you're kidding. For what? And he explains the whole thing. And I go, well, here's the thing. If I don't get this, I mean, I, if I don't get this, then there's either something wrong with me or I definitely have the right to be somehow pissed. So. All right, I'm gonna go. So I go and meet them and it was a nice meeting. It was great. I ended up getting this thing and it was so interesting because the video game community.

[Jill Winterstein]

Yeah.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Is this ferocious, you know, infected and in a good way, very involved. Like if you think the soap opera, the daytime soap opera fans are rabid. No, no, no. The video game fans are, you know, they're, they're like comic book. And they know everything that's, that's supposed to happen and how every fiber is supposed to look and everything. So. Okay. It was, that was something that even to this day, people are still, you know, I still have connections to, to people who are affected by that, fans of that game.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Timothy Gibbs]

The same with, with, with Sex in the City. So this thing airs and I start getting stopped on the street in New York. I was still shooting the, the show, the one, One Life to Live and I was getting stopped all the time when it was, when it was airing, you know, just tell. Asking me if I was on the show. Did you play? Hey, were you Officer Stevens? Were you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that of course was, you know, in the, in, in, in, in the, over the years in which I was an actor. I didn't quite have that kind of notoriety. Even on daytime where was somewhat popular. You don't really have that kind of engagement with the folks who watch. So I was gratified by that, actually. I thought it was fun to meet all those people and you'd catch a quick story about who they are or their thoughts on the show. But they would always ask me about you guys. They would always ask me questions about all of you, you know, as. Questions about Cynthia that I couldn't answer and show, you know, because they think that we know each other better than we do. Right. And. And so there was a lot of that and. And a lot of the. The. The hands thing. You know, the hands.

[Kristin Davis]

Interesting.

[Timothy Gibbs]

That was so weird. And I. I know why. Because in the restaurant scene, there's. In those shots, it's with the wine glass. It's basically my hands are like a third character.

[Kristin Davis]

Interesting. I was not looking at that. I'm gonna have to look back at it.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Oh, it's so sweet.

[Kristin Davis]

I like it. I like it. Do you miss acting?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Sometimes I do. Sometimes I do, yeah. Sometimes I. You know, the last thing I did was an independent series a few years back called Paper Empire. It hasn't really gone too far. That. That thing. It was. The producer went and made it on his own dime and started trying to sell it around town. You know how that can. Can go. Yes, but it's the. The experience of being in front of the camera is the same no matter what the. Of course, sales experience is. Later for something as the actor, you have the same. The same sort of feelings. Yeah, it's always been. It. It had always been a career that had been good to me, and. And I sometimes still even question that. Why did I. Did I stop? And. And, you know, those are. That's. It's an interesting. I mean, to be very honest with you, I think that it's a confluence of things, really. I think it. I had some insecurities that might have led to. To putting an arm's distance between the experience of. Of incessantly auditioning and. And going. You know, that's hard. It is. You know. You know as well as I do that the nature of an actor is that you're. You're. You're out of work constantly, even when you're working. And when you're working, you're looking for the next thing and you're. And so I. When I found an opportunity to be grounded, I found it. I was enamored by it. I. It. I felt like I had been hugged. And I don't mean to make it too heady or any of that, but I think it was a combination of me meeting Patri, my wife, and, you know, I have and have had something that I think perhaps, unfortunately, most people may never have. And it is, I have this extraordinary relationship that has enriched me and made me so much better than I was.

[Kristin Davis]

And that's amazing.

[Timothy Gibbs]

It is. It is amazing.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Timothy Gibbs]

It is nothing short of amazing. And I don't know why that happened. And then I have these, we have these two beautiful children, and I don't, I just got, I got this point where I said, man, I have everything I need, sort of, and I can maybe stop swimming against the current to try to be something more.

[Kristin Davis]

That makes sense to me. I think that's super smart. I think that's a smart way to go. I mean, you'd already had a whole

[Timothy Gibbs]

career, you know, at times it feels smart. Sometimes it feels like I gave up. Some days it feels, you know, like it was right. And it's just a, that's just something that it changes as you think things through and as you're, and also, you know, what else strikes you as you go and you see, like, for instance, you go see something like. And by no means am I comparing my own abilities to the likes of these, I would mention, but you go and see one battle after another, and you know how they generally, you know, the process of making it, and, and, and as an actor who's done it for so long, it's impossible for you not to, to opine for, for, for that opportunity or that feeling. And I don't think, I don't think that ever leaves you, that you, you would just simply not ever want to feel that again.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I, I, I think that it's not a struggle, though, in the sense that when I tell you that you know how I feel on my home front, it really, that it really is true. And that really sort of makes everything so much easier.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely. I think it's super fascinating. I also feel like it's, it is kind of. It's because you started at 11, right? Like, that is, you already had the length of a career of, like, an incredible career. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, I did, I did. I did. I had, I mean, I got, I had. My career had been, it's been an interesting one, for sure. I, I played Merlin Olson's son, who is the famous linebacker for the Rams.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I played O.J. simpson's adopted son.

[Kristin Davis]

What?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

What was that? Like, we have to stop right there for a second.

[Luke Combs]

What?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

What year was that?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Okay, that was my. That was nineteen seven. It was either nineteen. I'm gonna say it was 1979 or 1970. 19. 1979.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay. And what was he like?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Well, you know, that's the. Isn't that the thing with him, that he was this very personable, magnetic figure with a big smile like Magic Johnson. But. But we all, you know, didn't realize that his heart was not like Magic Johnson's heart. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

So.

[Timothy Gibbs]

But I played a. It was the sequel to one of his TV movies that was very successful, called Goldie and the Boxer. And this was called Goldie and the Boxer Goes to Hollywood. And this. This heavyweight fighter adopts a bunch of orphans who live behind the movie sets.

[Jill Winterstein]

Wow.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And. And becomes kind of a father figure to them. And I remember he signed a ball that I have somewhere that. To my family. To the Gibbs family. And it says, Peace, O.J. simpson. Oh.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah. I mean, crazy things that. That. In other words, I've had a very interesting track and been able to work with some great people. I played Chad Everett's son in a Stephen Cannell series. So all of these different experiences, and. And of course, in Barcelona in Spain, I was shooting movies there, and. And that was quite, quite fun.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Timothy Gibbs]

So, yeah, it's this career, when practiced at a certain level, can take you all over, and you meet all kinds of people, you shoot in all different kinds of lands, and you learn a lot, and it's enriching in so many ways. So I definitely feel like I had

[Kristin Davis]

that experience, which is so great. So great. And I think that is a beautiful thing that you found this. This incredible relationship and grounded family, and you're building furniture. I think that sounds amazing.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, it's the most. It's. It's so. It's so much fun. I'll show you. I'm in my store, right?

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Ooh. So this is one of the tables. We build this very old. Very old primitive stuff.

[Kristin Davis]

It's so beautiful.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And then we build these stools.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, yeah.

[Timothy Gibbs]

So this is. This is my life now.

[Kristin Davis]

Gorgeous.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, it's cool.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, I'm gonna. I'm gonna be on your way. Website.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Well, you got to check it out for sure. You got to go check it out.

[Kristin Davis]

Arcademodern.com I mean, we could come by the next time we go from Columbia to Charleston.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I'm telling you, you could. Yay.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm so excited.

[Timothy Gibbs]

We'd welcome You.

[Kristin Davis]

Amazing. Amazing. See, that's the kind of life I feel somewhat jealous for. You know, like, you always feel jealous for the other thing, right?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, of course, yeah. Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, I mean, it wasn't in the cars for me or whatever, but part of me, I can see the joy of, like, a grounded experience in a tiny town.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Town. Yeah, that part of it. It's. It's interesting. Tiny towns, Southern towns, they have their secrets and they have, you know, our little town. It's a tiny town, but it's. South Carolina has a share of corruption at the municipal level. And you.

[Kristin Davis]

Listen. I mean, I'm not even going to get started, but I know I could

[Timothy Gibbs]

tell you some serious stories.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, it's never boring down there.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Oh, we've had police chiefs arrested and all kinds of crazy stuff.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, we.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Oh, yeah.

[Jay Shetty]

It's.

[Timothy Gibbs]

It's. And this is a tiny little town, so it's. Yeah. I won't go into names or anything, but it's been an education across the board. But largely the. The nature of it, this quiet, sort of simple life, it has its attractions, it. It has its benefits. And there are moments where you're. I'm grateful to. To have it. It's.

[Kristin Davis]

It's.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I, you know, la. It's a roaring life and New York is even more. But this is more of a whisper and it's nice. It can be nice.

[Kristin Davis]

That's very nice. Well, you're a joy. Thank you so much for joining us. Oh, my God. That's part of the fun thing about a pod, because you don't know everyone's story. And that's why wanted to do this, because I love to hear everybody's stories.

[Timothy Gibbs]

You know, it's. I'm so grateful to you for reaching out and giving me the opportunity. I've always felt like my little stint on that show packed much more of a punch than I expected.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Timothy Gibbs]

And. And I'm. I'm grateful for that opportunity. And this gives me the opportunity to actually say that.

[Kristin Davis]

And that's cool. Wow, that's so nice. That's the other thing that I love so much when you, you know, when you're around actors, all of us, I think, really, I mean, at least most of us have a sense of how lucky we are and, you know, we're very. I think you have to be kind of open as a person and grateful and the things that, you know, you have expressed. That's part of why I wanted to talk to everybody, too, because I love to hear each personal version. And if you weave all those things together. I do think it's really like an interesting backdrop to what people see. Right. Because they only see the show, the finished product. But, like, what everyone puts into it is. Is so interesting individually interesting, which is why it works, you know?

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you so much, Timothy, for joining us.

[Timothy Gibbs]

It was my pleasure, honestly. Thank you for having me.

[Kristin Davis]

My joy. Now I know the South Carolina connection. We're gonna have to find you.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Yeah, you'll have to come by and see the store.

[Kristin Davis]

I'd love to. I'd love to. Have a great day. Thank you so much.

[Timothy Gibbs]

Thank you. Have a great one. Bye. Bye.

[Kristin Davis]

Thanks.

[Jill Winterstein]

Bye. Hi, it's Jill Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter Podcast where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And. And today I'm talking with my dear friend Krista Williams.

[Kristin Davis]

It can change you in the best way possible. Dance with the change. Dance with the breakdowns.

[Jill Winterstein]

The embodiment of Pisces intuition with Capricorn power moves.

[Kristin Davis]

Just so. I'm like, delusionally proud of my chart.

[Jill Winterstein]

Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you listen to your podcast.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm Amanda Knott. And in the new podcast, the Case of Lucy Letby, we unpack the story of an unimaginable tragedy that gripped the UK in 2023. But what if we didn't get the whole story? Evidence has been made to fit.

[Timothy Gibbs]

The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses.

[Kristin Davis]

What if the truth was disguised by a story we chose to believe?

[Jill Winterstein]

Oh, my God. I think she might be innocent.

[Kristin Davis]

Listen to Doubt the Case of Lucy Letby on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Timothy Gibbs]

I'm Clayton Eckerd. In 2022, I was the lead of ABC's the Bachelor.

[Kristin Davis]

But here's the thing. Bachelor fans hated him.

[Timothy Gibbs]

If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would.

[Kristin Davis]

That's when his life took a disturbing turn. A one night stand would end in a courtroom.

[Jill Winterstein]

The media is here.

[Kristin Davis]

This case has gone viral.

[Timothy Gibbs]

The dating contract.

[Kristin Davis]

Agree to date me, but I'm also suing you.

[Luke Combs]

This is unlike anything I've ever seen before.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm Stephanie Young. Listen to Love trapped on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jay Shetty]

Hey, I'm Jay Shetty, host of the On Purpose podcast. I'm joined by Luke Combs, award winning country music artist and one of the most authentic voices in music today.

[Luke Combs]

The guy that says he's always gonna be there and that that will do anything to be there is the only guy that's not there. No matter what. I'm gonna prioritize my wife and my children. I dread the conversation with my son.

[Jay Shetty]

Listen to On Purpose with Jay Shetty on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Jill Winterstein]

This is an iHeart podcast. Guaranteed Human.