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Kristen Davis
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Kristen Davis
Based on the best selling novel from Carly Fortune, the new prime original series Every Year after follows Sam and Percy across six summers as they take a second chance at a love that never really let go. It's the kind of story that brings you back to a summer crush you never fully got over, or a friendship that almost turned into something more with slow burn, tension, lakeside nostalgia, and that lingering what if it's the kind of show people say they couldn't stop watching and were a little emotionally destroyed by. In the Best Watch every year after streaming June 10th only on Prime. Hi, I'm Kristen Davis and I want to know are you a Charlotte? Hi everyone. Welcome back to Are youe a Charlotte? We are here today with Part two with Michael Patrick King. Always a good time. Thanks for joining us when you were writing. So I'm going to connect it all to Charlotte. So what I see when I watch the scene with Cynthia especially is like, Charlotte and Kristen are kind of dealing with the evolution of Charlotte in terms of getting out of some of the boxed elements of her. Right. Like, you know, she's always trying so hard and she's peppy and she's whatever, blah, blah, blah. And now we're really. We're really stretching. Right?
Michael Patrick King
Yeah, she's heartbroken.
Kristen Davis
Yeah, she's heartbroken. And also. But she's still gonna try, Right. But then she doesn't know how. Like, you know, so it's like you can't just deviate. Right. And we're gonna get to the point where I'm laying on my couch and Carrie comes. And that's such a beautiful. Right. Like, you're so. You're like building block by building block, building block.
Michael Patrick King
You have to believe the situation. You can never. You can never lose gravity. You can't suddenly go someplace where the audience goes, wait, did I miss an episode?
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
It all has to be a little bit ahead, but just a little bit ahead where they are. If it's too far ahead, they don't understand. Start to see, oh, she's covering. Oh, she's covering. Oh, that's going to be hard. And then you see the nobility of her coming at the end and choosing friendship.
Kristen Davis
Exactly. And that's what we were talking about. I don't remember that scene at all. Which is interesting, because I was worried about the other scene, but I don't think I was worried about that scene. But you can tell. I could tell when I come in the door that I've already been crying. Right. So that was interesting. I don't think it was a choice. Right. I think it's probably just whatever take or whatever and me having all, like, at that point, there's. It's pent up, you know, and then. And I couldn't remember what I was gonna say. Which I love. Right. Not in the scene when I was watching. I love that. That you don't know.
Michael Patrick King
Also, we want. Didn't want the audience to know. Right.
Kristen Davis
It works so good.
Michael Patrick King
It was like, oh, they're all acting. Samantha's giving her tea.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
The way Samantha gave Carrie breakfast.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
In the movie when she was devastated. There's like a weird nurse that shows up in Samantha very rarely when something emotionally devastating.
Kristen Davis
Yes. Which is great because you don't see
Michael Patrick King
it coming because she barely doesn't even say anything.
Kristen Davis
Totally. She's great. Well, it's also like in my motherboard myself, which I had remembered the general storyline, but I didn't remember the payoff. Right. So good. Yeah. So, so good.
Michael Patrick King
So the thing that people used to say is, why is the show so? Why do people still watch it? It's because of the love, not the sex. It's the love of these women for each other. And the sex is fantastic because it's humiliating. Everybody relates to it. And it's comic. And it's human.
Kristen Davis
Yes, it's human. And there's not judgment and survivors. Yes.
Michael Patrick King
But it's really the moments where, you know, Miranda jumps out of the aisle at her. When Carrie jumps out of the aisle at Miranda's mother's funeral because she has no one to walk with or when Miranda respects what Charlotte says.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
And then still holds that space for her as they say.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
Walking down the street in New York amongst everybody else, not even aware that they're having this crisis. And it's the moment of, you know, the comedy of Carrie in the bathroom with Aiden saying, did you tell him? And Sarah Jessica is so comic in that scene doing all that. Like, it's pure candy for her. Like, I know.
Kristen Davis
She's so animated.
Michael Patrick King
Hand gestures and like.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
Like, she's not even. She's like. Like a little rock on a pond. Not even saying the line. She just perfectly needed.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
A different way to add something to the same.
Kristen Davis
Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
Abortion storyline.
Kristen Davis
Definitely. And incredible. Incredible. It's incredible. Okay, let's go back to beautiful.
Michael Patrick King
And the clothes.
Kristen Davis
Oh, my God.
Michael Patrick King
I mean, now you see it like Carrie walking in. In that kilt with the mail.
Kristen Davis
Oh, I'd forgotten about that.
Michael Patrick King
100. It's everywhere. 100% right now.
Kristen Davis
We should have gotten that outfit out. You have to show Sarah outfits to jog her memory.
Michael Patrick King
That is so completely.
Kristen Davis
It's incredible.
Michael Patrick King
Edgy, chic, current.
Kristen Davis
Yep. So I know it, I know it. I mean, they were just. All of it is.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. It's delicious.
Kristen Davis
Delicious.
Michael Patrick King
Which is why you're re watching them and talking about.
Kristen Davis
Definitely. Definitely. But also because I think. And to go back to like when you. Okay, so at this point, we've got Jenny, we've got Cindy. Darren is.
Michael Patrick King
Oh, this is full room.
Kristen Davis
Right? Is Darren gone?
Michael Patrick King
Gone.
Kristen Davis
Got it.
Michael Patrick King
Season two gone.
Kristen Davis
Got it, got it, got it.
Michael Patrick King
I thought sober was a shirt is a. Is a complete rockstar. Female room. Ellen Heinberg's there as well.
Kristen Davis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got to find Alan.
Michael Patrick King
Ellen Heimberg's there. It's a very strong.
Kristen Davis
Amy B. Harris.
Michael Patrick King
Amy B. Harris. Julie Elise. A. Liz.
Kristen Davis
Liz is coming.
Michael Patrick King
Liz may be there.
Kristen Davis
Okay.
Michael Patrick King
Cindy, Jenny and me. It was a big ass room of people with a lot of feelings, a lot of opinions, a lot of female information and a lot of humiliation. Comedy humiliation for all of us. All we did was just mine. What happened? What happened?
Kristen Davis
Wow.
Michael Patrick King
What happened on the weekend? What happened? And no one was pregnant, but everybody was still feeling. It's hard to be friends with people all the time.
Kristen Davis
You mean like the people who are pregnant and are now like in a different world?
Michael Patrick King
A lot of the stories were mining female friendships as they age.
Kristen Davis
Got it. That's true.
Michael Patrick King
You know, like when you fall apart, when you come back together, what's legitimate, you know, we've done many, many stories where the women fall. Fell apart. At one point in the movie, after Miranda held the secret that she told Big to not get married, she sent Carrie yellow flower, yellow roses. And saying, you have to forgive me.
Kristen Davis
I don't even remember that.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah, it's the friendship flower. Yellow rose is the flower for friendship.
Kristen Davis
I didn't know that. Okay.
Michael Patrick King
So Miranda sends her this big arrangement because she won't return her calls.
Kristen Davis
Ooh.
Michael Patrick King
So it was always about realizing that these female relationships that you have are relationships, their past friendships. Totally the relationships that loves of your life, as we said with Big in the finale.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
They're the. You're the loves of her life.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
So all those women had friends and some of. And then within the room, we have interactions and we're still friends.
Kristen Davis
Yes. Thank God.
Michael Patrick King
We're still friends.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
That is the strongest continuing friendships of writers. Of all the rooms I've been in that group, it's very hard to maintain a group. You'll fall in love with one person and they'll stay in your life. But a group moving along was a testament to the camaraderie of that room.
Kristen Davis
And I think it's a testament to you choosing them. And could we talk a little bit about that? Because you're really the maestro at this point. And Julia and Elisa had never written a script before. Motherboard, which is insane. How did that happen? How did you find people? How did you choose people, bring them along?
Michael Patrick King
Well, it comes from their writing. First of all, you read something that they wrote, and to me, it's a voice. It's a one thought. It doesn't feel like writing. It feels like life. And Juliana, Lisa wrote a script, a spec script. I don't even think it was our show, but I immediately Knew they have a voice that I haven't. It doesn't feel like it's written. It feels like it's alive. Everybody on the page has something. When I look at scripts that other writers are wanting me to do, I'm like, I look for the one thing, and it can be one completely original sentence. And I go, oh, I've never heard anybody write that.
Kristen Davis
Wow.
Michael Patrick King
That's what you look for.
Kristen Davis
Okay.
Michael Patrick King
And then that's first. And then you meet them, and it's all about the energy. And it's like, do. Do I feel funnier across from them? Do I feel smarter across from them? Do I feel like more myself across from them?
Kristen Davis
Wow.
Michael Patrick King
That's important because that means that you're going, there's something there that you want to entertain, which will bring up the better part of you in the room.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
And then there's the. Are they humans?
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
Are they safe?
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
Are they comfortable? Are they humble? Are they group? Right.
Kristen Davis
Because that's important.
Michael Patrick King
So important.
Kristen Davis
So then when you're in. In the writer's room, because anytime any of our writers come on, it's like, there's so much that obviously I didn't ask you at the time. Right. And I love to hear about it. So you would have people come to LA prevalent before the season, like in between the seasons. Tell us a little bit about that process.
Michael Patrick King
There's a pre room where you sort of plow up the field and you sort of get all the dirt going. And what did you think over the hiatus? What did you think? What could it be? What could it be? And I always came in with the map. A very strong impulse to start and a very strong impulse to close.
Kristen Davis
So you already envisioned.
Michael Patrick King
I already imagined a journey.
Kristen Davis
Got it.
Michael Patrick King
Of each of the characters.
Kristen Davis
Got it.
Michael Patrick King
And then the side trips or where everybody else is like, what if we do that? What if we do that? What if we do that? What if we do that? What if we do that? What if we do that? But when we were in Atlantic City doing the Atlantic City episode, they still talk about the fact that in the middle of that season, I put them in a hotel room with me and I said, here's season. The next season four. Boom. Here's the next season.
Kristen Davis
Wow.
Michael Patrick King
And they're like, ugh. So sometimes it comes to you, wow. And then it's a trial.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
It's a jury room. Do you like it?
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
I mean, I'll give you a perfect example. I've said this before. Some writers in the room. Julie Rotenberg did Not want to see Aiden again.
Kristen Davis
What?
Michael Patrick King
When Aiden left, she was like, do
Kristen Davis
you mean the first time?
Michael Patrick King
Goodbye.
Kristen Davis
Wow.
Michael Patrick King
After the wedding and they didn't get married. After Charlotte got married and Aiden went his way, I felt very strongly that Carrie and Aiden was strong. John Corbett and Sarah Jessica were amazing together. So I came to the thing. I think Aiden comes back. And Julie protecting our integrity of not repeating and not trying to duplicate something was like, absolutely not. What? And everybody was like, what? And then somebody else had a couple things. I agree with that. And I said, okay, give me reasons Aiden shouldn't come back. And they quoted Samantha, that whole crunchy granola thing, that turquoise Julie crunchy granola thing. And I was like, oh, you're using our own words against us. So I was like, oh, okay, so you don't want to see that, Aiden, I raise you that. And I go, you1 better. I acknowledge that and go, you1 better. What if he comes back different so that we can maintain our. Not the same thing? I said, what if he comes back hard as a rock and ripped and they're like. And with his hair cut. And they were like, what? Oh, wait a minute. And then I went to John Corbett and I took him to lunch at Jones. And we were eating. He was eating fried chicken, and he's eating fried chicken with mashed potatoes. And we were in a booth and I said, hey, John, we want to bring you back. He said, oh, that's. That's cool, that's cool. I said, but you gotta come back. Worked out, ripped with short hair. And he goes, I knew I was a fatty. And he rolled over on his side. I knew that was a fatty.
Kristen Davis
Oh my God, that's so.
Michael Patrick King
And then I was like, deal? And he says, yep.
Kristen Davis
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Michael Patrick King
I hate to say it, but I
Kristen Davis
don't trust much of anything.
Michael Patrick King
It's the rage bait.
Kristen Davis
It feels like it's trying to divide people. We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little.
Michael Patrick King
NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts.
Kristen Davis
Let's move forward from there.
Michael Patrick King
NBC News reporting for America.
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Michael Patrick King
People sometimes say to me like actors, actresses and I go are you kidding me? They have to show up at 5am and they click on a neon bright light in front of a makeup mirror at 5am and they have to sit there, take it. And then the journey to getting in front of the camera and it's so hard to relax and open up in front of a camera. And I remember one time when we were doing the episode where they go to the Playboy mansion in the LA episode let's discuss it was the scene where they're Supposed to drive up in the blue convertible in front of the fountain. And the sun was hitting the fountain, and you were nowhere to be seen. None of you. And I was like, the sun's leaving. The sun is leaving. And they were like, well, they're not here. And I was like, the sun's leaving.
Kristen Davis
We were, like, off somewhere down a
Michael Patrick King
hill off the Playboy Mansion in a trailer, right? And I was like, I'm losing the sun. And I got in a golf cart with my hair on fire. Went. Went down across the speed bumps through Playboy Mansion gate. Boom. Parked the car and knocked. And I open the door to, like, say, let's go. And the four of you were in the chair, and there was some sort of cool music playing from the 90s or 70s or whatever. And you all just literally looked at me like this. Oh, no, don't bring that in here. And I closed the door, and I never pounded on a makeup door since.
Kristen Davis
Oh, that's so sweet.
Michael Patrick King
Because I was like, oh, that's a thing.
Kristen Davis
It is a thing.
Michael Patrick King
That's a ritual. That's definitely church. Definitely energy that has nothing to do. And eventually you got the message and you all showed up, and we got the shot, and the sun was hitting the water, and you were all adorable, but it was like, it's a lot to get ready to be on camera.
Kristen Davis
It is a lot. It is a lot. It is a lot. You're absolutely right. It was a delicate. It was a delicate thing in the trailer. You know what I mean? And we also had the whole hair and makeup team, right? By that point, everybody had two big exact.
Michael Patrick King
But, you know, and it's just. It's a delicate thing to be. To go back to coulda, woulda, shoulda. To be at the end of that block. Know that there's 20 extras. Frankel says, Action. And, you know, 25ft from now, you have to cry.
Kristen Davis
It's true. It's true. It is an actor's really hard thing to do. But I will say this, generally speaking, and this, again, is just growth, right? You know, I'd been in acting class forever, you know, previous to this, right? Like, forever. And I don't know if you remember,
Michael Patrick King
long time to be in acting class.
Kristen Davis
I mean, I was in acting class since I was, like, 10 years old, right? Till, like, even after college, then I went to college. It was a lot of acting class. And acting class can kind of mess you up in a way, right? Because it's not exactly the same, you know? You know what I'm saying?
Michael Patrick King
It's a surprise.
Kristen Davis
It's different when you get on set, definitely. But they also talk about raising the stakes. Raising the stakes. Raising the stakes all the time, which I do think is important for comedy. That's how you make comedy work is like to internally raise the stakes. The stakes. Right. But that's a fine line to walk also. And early on, before you came, I don't think you were there because I don't remember your face there. Darren made me reshoot something. Did. Did I ever tell you this?
Michael Patrick King
I think I know this story. But it was the pilot, right?
Kristen Davis
Yeah. No, not the pilot. I want to say like the first or second episode directed by that woman, that lanky independent film woman, Allison McLean. I believe I feel I could be wrong. I think it was up the butt situation where I have to tell the guy that I don't want to do it, you know, after the cab ride.
Michael Patrick King
And I wrote. So I find it very hard to believe I wouldn't have been in the room.
Kristen Davis
But let me tell you what Darren said to me, because I don't remember your face in this event because I
Michael Patrick King
was not involved in the right, I think, interaction.
Kristen Davis
So basically I had to reshoot it. One of the only things I ever remember having to reshoot because I cried and Darren was like, you don't care. And I was like, what? What? And he goes, you know, there's a guy around the corner. And I'm like, there is like, you know me, right? Like, I'm just like, you're speaking Mandarin to me. I don't know what you're saying, like, what he's like. Cause he knew the show that he wanted to do, right? Which was gonna be like, basically a guy, a week, a guy, an episode. Because I was like, when I go to confess to the guy that I want nice sheets and whatever, and I don't wanna be the. Up the guy. Whatever.
Michael Patrick King
Up the guy up.
Kristen Davis
Exactly.
Michael Patrick King
That's too far. That's.
Kristen Davis
Any of it is too.
Michael Patrick King
No one can write that. That's just not funny. That's dangerous.
Kristen Davis
Definitely. That's how I perceive, obviously. So. And then I had to reshoot because he's told me, you were too upset. You were too upset. And I was like, okay. So I had to go back and reshoot. That's what acting class will do to you, right? It's like everything is the. To have the deep, deep stakes. You know what I mean?
Michael Patrick King
Yeah.
Kristen Davis
So then when I. But then I think I had relaxed all of that, right? Because, like, being on a show, especially our show, which you have, you know, so many scenes, like coffee shop scenes and this scene and that scene and so many different types of scenes. Where. And tell me what you think. I think that one of the reasons. Like one of the. Obviously coffee shop scenes, very hard to film very long. But when you watch them, so enjoyable. Right. Because everyone is so present. And that became to me, like, I just want to be present. I'm going to have, of course, all of my underlying look.
Michael Patrick King
It's all. It's all up the butt with season two. Or was it season one?
Kristen Davis
I think it's season one.
Michael Patrick King
It was episode five or something.
Kristen Davis
Oh, okay. Maybe it wasn't that then.
Michael Patrick King
Season one, Episode four.
Kristen Davis
Okay.
Michael Patrick King
Okay. So everybody's.
Kristen Davis
It might not have been that much.
Michael Patrick King
Everybody's like, what is this? Totally, you know, like. And the tone of anything when you get to the set, you're like, oh, I saw it a different way. I've been so many. Surprised. I've been surprised. My whole journey has been going from no to. To. I don't know, like, just. You see something and it's not how you saw it.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
You thought it was going to go and you react rather than eventually you start to go, oh, that's. Is that better? That's better. How can it be both?
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
So it's. But it's all new. It's all. It's all seventh graders putting on a show at the beginning. So everybody's just not knowing what it's supposed to be.
Kristen Davis
Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
But by the time we got to the coffee shop scenes. And also, I will say the coffee shop scenes were the Rockettes. You knew exactly what you were supposed to do. They were rat a tat tat, tat, tat, tat, tat. 5, 6, 7, 8. Whereas a scene telling a man that you don't want to be Mrs. Up the butt.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
Is a weird.
Kristen Davis
Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
Collab of comedy. Totally tragedy. Yes.
Kristen Davis
Well put.
Michael Patrick King
So that's more open to. Am I failing?
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
Do we have it right? Is it done right?
Kristen Davis
Right. Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
But the coffee shops. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Datings and I'm exhausted. Where is he?
Kristen Davis
Definitely. Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
Everybody was fake eating or real eating. In Cynthia's case. Like a motherfucker.
Kristen Davis
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
Hitting their mouth, nailing it. Because of the coverage. Everybody had to be concise. It was really choreography.
Kristen Davis
Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
And it was usually a feast of ideas. Stuff where everybody had a different point of view and you knew who you were playing.
Kristen Davis
Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
Very clear what was supposed to be happening.
Kristen Davis
Yeah, definitely.
Michael Patrick King
The coffee shop scene in this one Very interesting departures. Charlotte's left the coffee shop scene twice. This time she gets up and leaves mad. And when Carrie's. When she's. When Samantha's talking about funky Spunk, she gets up and leaves disgusted. Like, that's. And Miranda says, and she's never coming back. That was a comedy one. This one is a painful one. She cannot be there. And she lowers the boom.
Kristen Davis
Right, right, right.
Michael Patrick King
Let a residence in the room that we then cashed in on the whole rest of the episode.
Kristen Davis
Definitely, definitely, definitely. Do you remember when you had Cynthia eat and get stuff in her teeth?
Michael Patrick King
Oh, the olive tamponade. When she had the braces.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
And she was like, that.
Kristen Davis
Was that just so much fun for you?
Michael Patrick King
So much fun.
Kristen Davis
She was so into it. I remember being so concerned, like, that's too much.
Michael Patrick King
I would be like, look at Cynthia.
Kristen Davis
I know. She goes, right. No fear.
Michael Patrick King
There is. I don't know if I've ever told you this story.
Kristen Davis
Oh, I can't wait.
Michael Patrick King
There is an. The episode where she makes the cake, okay? And she wants to have a cake. And she goes to a Payard, and the cakes are like $47. And she's like, bullshit. And Miranda goes and gets a Duncan Hines cake, and she makes a sheet cake. Cause she wants to have that cake. She wants to reward herself with a cake. And the episode was, she can't stop eating the cake. She keeps eating the one where it
Kristen Davis
goes into the trash.
Michael Patrick King
Into the trash.
Kristen Davis
Oh, it's so good.
Michael Patrick King
And she calls Carrie and says after she. This was a Judy Toll, God rest her sweet, talented soul story of she couldn't stop eating things. So she threw the cake in the thing. And that wasn't even enough. She knew she'd take it out of the garbage. So she puts Palmolive dishwashing liquid all. All over it so she won't pick it out of the garbage.
Kristen Davis
Oh, my God.
Michael Patrick King
And Miranda says, I'm calling you. This is your friend Miranda. I'm calling you from the Betty Crocker home instead of the Betty Ford.
Kristen Davis
Wow.
Michael Patrick King
But. But I didn't direct it. Alan Coulter directed. And he was an independent filmmaker. And he was a. I would say a hotshot cowboy. He had a lot of ideas and themes and things, and he was magical and funny and he wore a pork pie hat. And he was into it. And one of the few nights I wasn't on set and it was very late and they were shooting the scene where Miranda just keeps cutting the cake smaller and smaller and smaller, but he saw I've Committed myself to the Betty Crocker Clinic. And he ran with it so that he had Cynthia, in a stylized moment, eat the cake, smear it all over her face, slide across the floor, put chocolate fingers up and down the walls. And I saw the footage, and it was full indie film. It was Requiem for a Dream. It was everything expressionistic. It was. I think it was an. The phrase big swing.
Kristen Davis
Wow.
Michael Patrick King
And I was like. And Cynthia was. She had chocolate on her face, and she was. Her fingers were going down the wall, and she was in the corner in the camera. He had the handheld camera coming up. And she was like. She was possessed. And I saw it and I was like. Like, what happened? What is this? And he goes, she went crazy. And I go, but she can't go crazy. She's a character on our show. And it's one of the few things. And he said, but isn't it great? I said, it's great for something else. Go there.
Kristen Davis
Wow.
Michael Patrick King
It's supposed to be a relatable on an evening, taking a piece of cake, opening the refrigerator. So I mean, we had to reshoot the whole thing.
Kristen Davis
Oh, my gosh.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah, we reshoot the whole thing. And Cynthia came in. She had. She was about. She was in her pajamas in the character. And she came in. She walked by me and she said, wasn't good. And I said, no, it was good if I'm committing Miranda to a mental institution the next day. She goes, no, it was fun.
Kristen Davis
I'm sure she did love it.
Michael Patrick King
Run, run, run, run, run with it. And so, of course, just tone everything. Yeah.
Kristen Davis
She wants everything you give her. Which reminds me, we did talk to the lovely man that she vomited on. Fake vomited. That we had to cut.
Michael Patrick King
We cut it.
Kristen Davis
Tell us about it.
Michael Patrick King
I mean, it was rough. It was the idea Marina gets so drunk that when she stop having sex with this hot guy, she's all.
Kristen Davis
The cop. The detective.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. She's all up in her. And literally, she's so drunk that she vomits down on him. And we had a. And I've always wanted to do it. We never pulled it off a giant hose. Because I always imagined, as a comic director, the idea of incredible amount of vomit. A comic amount.
Kristen Davis
Did we not do it on them just like that.
Michael Patrick King
Come on, I'll tell you that.
Kristen Davis
Okay.
Michael Patrick King
And it always has to have a brr. And we had this tube on Cynthia and she did it, but the tube kept going. And then it was like, well, this doesn't is too much.
Kristen Davis
Got it.
Michael Patrick King
So then I tried it again. On in. Just like that. When Sarah Jessica's. Where Carrie goes on with John Tenney.
Kristen Davis
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
And we had the thing on on her and it was like just. You could see it and it wasn't working. And then she said, I don't want to put that. The guy from special effects wasn't good. He was fired after that.
Kristen Davis
Oh, no.
Michael Patrick King
There's a guy who came on. Vomit expert.
Kristen Davis
Oh, dear.
Michael Patrick King
Wasn't.
Kristen Davis
Oh, my.
Michael Patrick King
And so we got rid of him. But Sarah Jessica said, watch. And we had a giant 2 liter thing of Dinty Moore.
Kristen Davis
That's what the bottom is. I understand. The soup. Yes.
Michael Patrick King
She chugged it.
Kristen Davis
Oh, my God.
Michael Patrick King
And then she, like some animal made it come out. No. Kept a second chamber.
Kristen Davis
What?
Michael Patrick King
And did it again.
Kristen Davis
No.
Michael Patrick King
And I was like, I don't know how she did that.
Kristen Davis
I don't either.
Michael Patrick King
It was real.
Kristen Davis
Oh, my God.
Michael Patrick King
She did it herself without.
Kristen Davis
We're gonna have to discuss this with her next time.
Michael Patrick King
Never speak of it. And as a matter of fact, I should not be speaking of it.
Kristen Davis
Really. But I think that's impressive.
Michael Patrick King
It was so impressive as a. This isn't working. She always knows when this is working.
Kristen Davis
She will do what she's working.
Michael Patrick King
She knows when something is working.
Kristen Davis
She does. Yes.
Michael Patrick King
She's like, this isn't working. Forget that. Give me the thing. The thing. And I was like, boom, boom. And the thing you see in the show is purely her no effects.
Kristen Davis
I thought it looked fantastic. I didn't know the details.
Michael Patrick King
She somehow went full and then somehow retained some and went full again because it was too.
Kristen Davis
That's insane.
Michael Patrick King
The comedy was. I'm fine. She throws up. I'm fine. She throws up again.
Kristen Davis
Oh, my God.
Michael Patrick King
She did it.
Kristen Davis
Oh, my God.
Michael Patrick King
And then Tenney saw her doing. He was like, all right, give me some. And then he was like. He was doing it too. Yeah.
Kristen Davis
Oh, my God. And that was like in the wee hours, at some point in the morning. Yeah. I was not there, but I was. I was like. That's like a callback.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. That was. That was rough. People lost their jobs and she saved the day.
Kristen Davis
Wow. Amazing. Amazing. And I never heard the story. Thank you for telling us that story.
Michael Patrick King
I mean, she's amazing.
Kristen Davis
She is amazing. But did you feel that you had achieved your. Your. Your funny comic vomiting?
Michael Patrick King
I never did it the way and the only people. I finally saw it done.
Kristen Davis
Okay.
Michael Patrick King
On the Righteous Gemstones.
Kristen Davis
Oh, okay.
Michael Patrick King
They had a scene where they found out that their father was probably not going to live, but he did. And before the four Siblings were out in front of the hospital and they did it perfectly.
Kristen Davis
No way.
Michael Patrick King
And then another one. But it was.
Kristen Davis
We need to find that vomit expert.
Michael Patrick King
So farcical. And it was. Belonged on their show.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
Not on our show.
Kristen Davis
Got it. Got it. Well, that was a different show to
Michael Patrick King
do that anymore because I saw somebody.
Kristen Davis
You're okay. Okay, Good, good. So seeing it made you feel happy?
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. There's one thing if. As long as we're airing all the
Kristen Davis
dirty, let's air it.
Michael Patrick King
There was one bit I never got into the show, which was a hard on Rue boxer shorts.
Kristen Davis
Okay.
Michael Patrick King
Because the scene where Charlotte surprises Trey
Kristen Davis
drunk and he gets hard before they get married. Yeah, yeah.
Michael Patrick King
The thing that makes her think, oh, this will happen. Or after they get married, when they were separated. I don't remember.
Kristen Davis
I think it's when they're separated.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah, yeah. She goes over and she goes.
Kristen Davis
After I go out with the girls, and then I go to their house.
Michael Patrick King
And Kyle came to the set. And I said, here's this. And he had Ralph Lauren boxers. And I said, I want a giant tent of.
Kristen Davis
I vaguely remember this.
Michael Patrick King
And he was like, I'm not. I can't do that. Then I'll have nothing. I can't do that. What does that mean?
Kristen Davis
What did he mean, I'll have nothing?
Michael Patrick King
I mean, poor Kyle. Kyle, he showed up to be Prince Charming. And I told him on the day he's completely impotent, which is why he took the job. Cause he thought, well, that's better than being just handsome.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
But he thought that was too far. And I was like, God damn it, it's funny. And I let go of it until I saw 40 year old virgin.
Kristen Davis
Oh, no boxers in hard on.
Michael Patrick King
Biggest laugh in the movie.
Kristen Davis
You know what's funny, though, is when I was watching it, and this is the interesting thing about rewatching all this time later, I did have a memory of. There's something being weird about watching that scene. I was like, there's something weird about this because also, we're supposed to kind of have sex standing up. Ish. Really? We come in as this sudden thing. Right. Because that's his thing.
Michael Patrick King
Like, I mean, it was ra. You reached below frame, but there was nothing to reach to.
Kristen Davis
Yeah. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Michael Patrick King
Like, it was on CBS suddenly.
Kristen Davis
Totally. Yes. And I did think that. I was like, that's. Why do we do that? Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
Kyle was such a great sport. It was just for one morning. It was a very early shoot.
Kristen Davis
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Michael Patrick King
I hate to say it, but I
Kristen Davis
don't trust much of anything.
Michael Patrick King
It's the rage bait. It feels like it's trying to divide people.
Kristen Davis
We got clear facts. Maybe we can calm down a little.
Michael Patrick King
NBC News brings you clear reporting. Let's meet at the Facts.
Kristen Davis
Let's move forward from there.
Michael Patrick King
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Kristen Davis
Question I have about that. I remember, tell me if I'm wrong that he was only supposed to be on, like, five in the beginning episodes.
Michael Patrick King
Got it. I don't have any awareness of that.
Kristen Davis
Okay. Did you think. Because it was all supposed to be the way you described it to me, at least at first, was that, you know, Charlotte's got this goal, right? She's like, hell, Ben, we're gonna get the goal. But remember how he was supposed to be boring? Like when we're on the boat with Big and Carrie? Carrie's. They're not together. Big's on the boat. We're on the.
Michael Patrick King
Well, that's the thing we were talking about before is, like, what's really happening here? And Kyle is far from boring. There's nothing boring about him.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
So then it probably just became more and more and more and more and more. I mean, David Eigenberg came in and auditioned for 10 men before Steve, and he was never the thing. And I kept thinking, who's that realistic guy?
Kristen Davis
Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
What can we do with him?
Kristen Davis
Yeah.
Michael Patrick King
So not an actor.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
And then we thought, well, Steve the bartender, and just David came in and read it, but we wrote it for him. And Kyle was so much more than boring. He is a little weird, though, with. All righty, then. He's a mama's boy. That's different than being boring.
Kristen Davis
Definitely.
Michael Patrick King
But no, I mean, the more. The more we got into the gold mine, then it became about the. Who's rubbing the Vicks on his chest.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
It's just all that was funny.
Kristen Davis
So sad and so sad and twisted.
Michael Patrick King
Franny, God rest her soul.
Kristen Davis
Oh, my God. So incredible.
Michael Patrick King
Franny became so real and Kyle was so real, and Charlotte was so real at that point.
Kristen Davis
But did you have the idea from the get go of the mother of Franny being Bunny being. Okay, so that was part of.
Michael Patrick King
We had the part of the mother.
Kristen Davis
Got it.
Michael Patrick King
The man child.
Kristen Davis
Right. Okay. So he was supposed to be a man child.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. I mean. And the dueling Chanels.
Kristen Davis
The dueling. Oh, me and Bunny. Got it. Got it.
Michael Patrick King
You know. Yeah. We knew that she would be that Upper east side doyenne and that Charlotte would be an Upper east side. Not a doyen.
Kristen Davis
Got it. But, like, you know, how it played out. And then I have to say what I'm worth and everything which we're not. Yeah. We're not worth a million. Yeah. Did you see. Did you have all that planned or
Michael Patrick King
did it just by the time we were filming it? Yeah, but it becomes evolved. It all evolves off of, wow, Kristen is. Let's just do more of that.
Kristen Davis
Let's keep going there.
Michael Patrick King
It just keeps becoming more and more interesting. And we believed Charlotte was a real person. So when you believe someone's a real person, then you have a permission to tell real stories with her. And, I mean, the heroics of her sticking up for herself and saying.
Kristen Davis
I mean, incredible. I remember also being very nervous about that.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah, fantastic.
Kristen Davis
Yeah. I mean, because Charlotte was also very nervous. Like, who's ever been in that? Like, oh, it's so hard. Question also just about character arcs and things. How did it come about that you decided to have Samantha have the relationship with Marie?
Michael Patrick King
Yeah.
Kristen Davis
You know her. When she decided to try to be
Michael Patrick King
a lesbian because it was about sexual expression. Samantha's character was about being an adventurer and. And having no judgment about sex at all. And so all of a sudden, the Maria character would have to be somebody who had a vibration. And Samantha followed vibration. She could almost sense sex in the room. So she was like, all right. I mean, it just became a color. And also, it was probably something that would. It was first of all ahead of the curve. But it was also something that Samantha would probably allow herself to experience. But of course, the whole thing was like. So she could say to the three of you ladies, I'm a lesbian. It was all for the reaction of you. And then. And the real reason we did it is to put a spotlight on the fact that Samantha has intimacy issues. And it doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman.
Kristen Davis
Definitely. Well, that was the funniest part, was like, you know, poor Maria trying to talk to her.
Michael Patrick King
Oh, yeah. Trying to make her, like a lesbian. Right.
Kristen Davis
Cause they like to talk. You gotta talk.
Michael Patrick King
No, no, no. It's too much. So, you know, we wanted to underline the male part of Samantha. That people always thought she was kind of alpha. She was like, ugh. These ladies and their conversations. It's always about turning over the stereotype. Like, if we thought we were talking about men as bad, then we wanted to make Samantha be like, what they complain about men. You know, like, it's all about, what else can we do? That's funny.
Kristen Davis
Right. Which I love.
Michael Patrick King
And then you get somebody like Sonia Braga and she's like, well, that's believable.
Kristen Davis
Totally.
Michael Patrick King
I mean, but that's where Cassie.
Kristen Davis
How did you get her?
Michael Patrick King
We were a very good show at that point.
Kristen Davis
Right. Got it, got it, got it.
Michael Patrick King
We were kind of a show for. Sure.
Kristen Davis
We were a show. I mean, if you ask any of these actors that I've had on who are in New York at the time, we were that from the first season, which is so funny because I don't remember that. You know what I mean?
Michael Patrick King
But by that you mean a show in New York.
Kristen Davis
Exactly, exactly. That wasn't long ago. A television show in New York. A television show, Right.
Michael Patrick King
Very big shot.
Kristen Davis
Yes, yes, yes. That's the other funny thing to remember. And you just reminded me of something. I had Chris Albrecht on. On Zoom. It was really fun. It was really fun. It was good.
Michael Patrick King
I mean, brave. He was a brave man.
Kristen Davis
He really was.
Michael Patrick King
Kept saying, it's hilarious. Forget it.
Kristen Davis
I know.
Michael Patrick King
Just do your thing.
Kristen Davis
I know.
Michael Patrick King
No notes.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
Great.
Kristen Davis
And one thing that.
Michael Patrick King
What a great champion for us.
Kristen Davis
I know it.
Michael Patrick King
And for the ideas.
Kristen Davis
Yes. And in general, not just for us, for the Soprano, for, like, there were so many things that were happening. Larry Sanders before us, like, you know what I'm saying? There were so many things. But one of the things that we talked briefly about, and I wanted to get your opinion on it because, of course, it's interesting to hear from his perspective, because I was having my own perspective, and I'm sure you were having yours in the end. You know we're about to have the Devil Wears Prada too. Right. Directed by David Frankel from our show. And Devil Wears Pride of One in Chris's mind, because I asked him something about, like, how, you know, the whole gestation of the Sex and City film and, you know, the ups and the downs. I know. And how did it happen in your mind or whatever. And he said that when the Devil Wears Part of One came out, he was like, oh, that's our film. And I was like, oh, really? He said, that's when I was like, oh, yeah, we've got to figure that out. I was like, okay. It's so interesting and random over there in that world, the executive world, to do.
Michael Patrick King
Did Devil's Wear product come out before us?
Kristen Davis
Apparently. I mean, in Chris Albrecht's mind. Can anyone check? I didn't.
Michael Patrick King
I don't.
Kristen Davis
I find that 2007, then. Yes.
Michael Patrick King
Six, four.
Kristen Davis
No, that's when the show ended. Our movie came out in 2008.
Michael Patrick King
Really?
Kristen Davis
I believe so.
Michael Patrick King
Interesting.
Kristen Davis
Yeah. Can anyone check? Pretty sure, yeah. Weird, right?
Michael Patrick King
Yeah.
Kristen Davis
I mean, for us, emotionally, it's. It's all.
Michael Patrick King
Well, you know, I mean, I. I don't know about that. I do know that every time a woman's movie does well.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
They open the door for another one or two movies to come in, and then they forget totally that they did well. Right.
Kristen Davis
And then they're shocked.
Michael Patrick King
It's very convenient to forget that the budget was blank and it made blank.
Kristen Davis
Yes.
Michael Patrick King
They forget all of that. Like it's an outlier. Oh, that's probably right. Delaware's Prada made money. And then they thought, well, what else can make money? They wear clothes.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
But then it's up to us to make even have that moment television show that became a movie that did a big thing. And then they forget again.
Kristen Davis
Right?
Michael Patrick King
They're still forgetting to this day. They're still forgetting. I'm sure Prada will do really well. And then they'll be like, oh, all right. What else? What do we got?
Kristen Davis
Definitely. I hope someone's ready with something.
Michael Patrick King
I mean, they. It's really interesting how they conveniently forget there's a female audience.
Kristen Davis
How does it happen? It's insane and infuriating. And also now the joy is, as Jenny was telling us, the older female audience has the buying power. Like, she had a detail about house buying. Because you remember that episode where Miranda's buying her apartment that Jenny wrote. So brilliant. Right. And, you know, because I'm always by myself buying things, it still happens. You know, you have to just like, it's. You're just like, there's only one person who's going to sign this. Like, it's me. It's just me. You know, it's very weird for people, but we talked about that, and she said that. I believe she said that there's more single women over 40 or something like that buying houses than any other group or something crazy. So exciting those people can buy movie tickets. Hello.
Michael Patrick King
He did Rivalry.
Kristen Davis
Yeah, baby. He did Rivalry.
Michael Patrick King
You know, he did Rivalry. That came out of nowhere. And that's the other thing. They always are surprised when women movies do well because they. They have. They come out of nowhere.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
They're specific.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
And they're not. Whatever.
Kristen Davis
Also, Feig's movie housemate. Incredible.
Michael Patrick King
Yeah. Incredible. Amazing.
Kristen Davis
So good.
Michael Patrick King
Does not translate to let's do 10 more of movies with female characters.
Kristen Davis
Right. Damn it.
Michael Patrick King
Maybe it does. I'm not sure.
Kristen Davis
Maybe it's all going to get to do part two.
Michael Patrick King
Maybe all. Yeah, of course he is.
Kristen Davis
Right.
Michael Patrick King
But maybe it's a great movie and it's fun. It was a roller coaster to go see. And people laughing and the women are smart and great and flawed and perfect. But yes, but maybe it's all just the business is contracting. So it feels like. Or is it? I'm not sure.
Kristen Davis
I mean, technically it is, right? Like technically the business is contracting.
Michael Patrick King
That's the conventional wisdom.
Kristen Davis
I do think there's numbers to back that up, unfortunately. All right everyone, guess what? We have more Michael Patrick King. So listen for part three this week. You know, it's just too much fun when he's here, so I just talk to him about everything. And thank you guys for listening as always. Join us again for Are youe a Charlotte? Taking care of yourself means taking care of your eyes too. And that gritty, irritated feeling could be dry eye. Mibo, AKA Perfluorohexalactane Ophthalmic Solution is the only prescription dry eye drop that directly targets the number one cause of dry eye too much tear evaporation. Ask your eye doctor how you can treat dry eye differently with Mibo. Oh yeah, don't use if allergic to Mibo. Remove contacts before using and wait at least 30 minutes before putting them back in. Eye redness and blurred vision may occur. For info, call 1-800-553-5340 or visit miebo.com hey listeners, Aleve has a question for you. Do you remember what it felt like when back pain didn't take over your day? You'd bend, twist, sit, stand without even thinking about it. Well, that feeling didn't go anywhere thanks to Aleve. With just one dose, Aleve's long lasting back pain relief can get you back to moving the way you used to. Feel that still feeling good feeling hours later with up to 12 hours of back pain relief. Feel a leave use as directed for minor aches and pains.
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This lively episode of “Are You A Charlotte?” welcomes back Michael Patrick King, showrunner, writer, and director of “Sex and the City.” Host Kristin Davis (Charlotte York herself) continues her deep, funny, and insightful exploration with King, focusing on how the groundbreaking series was crafted, the evolution of Charlotte’s character, memorable behind-the-scenes stories, and the collaborative magic that shaped one of television’s most beloved ensembles. Along the way, King reveals how David Eigenberg auditioned for multiple roles before landing the iconic part of Steve. The discussion ranges from dissecting particular setpieces and comedic beats to reflecting on the portrayal of female friendships and the wider impact of women-centric storytelling in Hollywood.
The conversation maintains the witty, candid, and insider-friendly tone characteristic of Sex and the City itself—rich with behind-the-scenes anecdotes, affection for ensemble and crew, mutual respect, and a non-judgmental view of both character and creative risk. Kristin and Michael’s banter toggles smoothly between comic memories and insightful professional musings, illuminating just how much love, trial-and-error, and sheer guts went into making Sex and the City legendary.
This episode is a goldmine for fans and writers interested in how “Sex and the City” balanced comedy with authenticity and centered enduring female relationships while breaking boundaries. Michael Patrick King’s stories—especially about actors, wild behind-the-scenes moments, and room debates—offer a nuanced look at how TV magic happens, when the right people, voices, and a willingness to push boundaries come together. The episode closes with an optimistic but pointed reflection on the ongoing hurdles and opportunities for women’s stories in entertainment, leaving listeners excited for even more tales in the promised part three.