Mints, Chlamydia, and Talking Dirty with Not Skinny Not Fat host Amanda Hirsch (S3 E6 "Are We Sluts?")

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Mints, Chlamydia, and Talking Dirty" – Are You A Charlotte? (S3E6: “Are We Sluts?”)

Date: November 26, 2025
Host: Kristin Davis
Guest: Amanda Hirsch (Not Skinny But Not Fat)

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Overview

In this episode of Are You A Charlotte?, Kristin Davis continues her deep-dive conversation with Amanda Hirsch—pop culture commentator and host of “Not Skinny But Not Fat”—as they rewatch and dissect the iconic “Sex and the City” episode, "Are We Sluts?" The discussion blends juicy behind-the-scenes glimpses with thoughtful reflections on sexual politics, double standards, and intimacy (on and off screen). They reminisce about the creative process, the realities of filming awkward sex scenes, and revisit the cultural impact of the original show on sex-positive conversation today.

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Key Discussion Points

The Script, Read-throughs, and Character Development

• Script Process & Table Reads

  • Cast received early script drafts and would “rush home to read it or read it at lunch,” energized by what was to come (03:48–04:32).
  • Michael Patrick King valued a performative read-through, using it “to see what jokes work, where the slow parts are… if your jokes don’t hit, they get cut.” (03:54–04:13)
  • Scripts were frequently revised after these read-throughs, sometimes leading to entire storylines being thrown out (04:46–05:28).
  • Quote:

    "You guys have to like perform, okay. Because I don't want your stuff to get cut."
    — Amanda Hirsch, 04:10

• Defending Charlotte's Innocence

  • Kristin recalled resisting a storyline where Charlotte is called degrading names, feeling it was “over the top” and not fair for Charlotte to endure (05:30–06:27).
  • She struggled with Charlotte’s almost impenetrable innocence, especially in moments when she would personally feel anger:

    "I remember feeling... this was one of the times where I kind of felt like I would have been more angry. But... Charlotte does not get angry."
    — Kristin Davis, 12:03–12:47

• Directing Styles

  • The episode’s indie-cred director Nicole Holofcener was described as highly character-driven, offering directions like:

    “Shout louder. Louder. Really shout it in her face.”
    — Amanda Hirsch, 08:50

Filming Sex Scenes: Realities vs. Glamour

• No Intimacy Coordinators

  • During Sex and the City’s original run, the now-standard intimacy coordinator role didn’t exist:

    "Definitely, no, we did not have them."
    — Amanda Hirsch, 18:52

• Awkwardness and Actor Dynamics

  • Filming sex scenes, especially with guest stars, often felt artificial, transactional, and awkward (07:32–11:09).
  • Actors were always present for each other’s closeups—“We never aren’t there. We would never do that. That’s like not cool... That’s like faking it.” (07:20–07:28)
  • Shooting schedule could make things even harder, e.g., filming a sex scene at 11pm after a schedule change (25:54–26:51).

• Physical and Emotional Discomfort

  • Kristin openly says she “didn’t like” certain sex scenes and sometimes just wanted to get through them (23:16, 24:40).

  • Making it pleasant for guest actors was sometimes a struggle:

    “A guy would just show up on set and you’re just in bed with them… that’s not a normal guy part."
    — Amanda Hirsch, 24:52

  • Sex scenes could feel “gratuitous” or merely for comic effect, especially in Charlotte storylines (21:52–22:37).

• The Mint Problem

  • Maintaining fresh breath for closeup intimacy became a running issue:

    “Our camera crew had a box of mints on the front of their camera… Altoids were like, right there because that's how much we needed them.”
    — Amanda Hirsch, 24:17

  • Anecdote about actress Britney Snow and a costar getting sick from "ODing on mints" to avoid bad breath (23:47–24:04).

Sex, Slut-Shaming, and Double Standards

• The “Are We Sluts?” Debate

  • The episode’s core question—whether promiscuous women are unfairly labeled—leads to reflections on enduring double standards (35:57–36:20).
  • Amanda and Kristin agree labeling men “romantic” or “good kissers” for many partners versus women as “sluts” is unjust.

• Is This Still Happening?

  • Amanda wonders if contemporary “hook-up culture” has moved beyond this stigma:

    “I feel like in the hookup culture of today, it might not be [happening]… but I don’t know.”
    — Amanda Hirsch, 36:22

  • Amanda’s example from Love Island, where “they all say their numbers… and I don’t think there’s bias there.” (36:33–36:53)

  • Both agree that, nowadays, directly questioning someone’s sexual history on a first date is generally a red flag (37:35–37:44).

On-Screen Sex & Charlotte’s Numbers

• Charlotte’s Quiet Sex-Positive Story

  • Despite Charlotte’s prude exterior, she was “still doing it… even though she wanted to call it making love and whatever the hell, but, like, she was still doing it.” (38:05–38:22)

• Behind-the-Scenes Fact:

  • According to the official book Kiss and Tell, Charlotte had the highest number of partners on the show:

    “Each character has all the guys they had sex with. And guess who had the most—Me.”
    — Kristin Davis, 38:29–38:41

  • The tally even beat Samantha, to the guest’s astonishment (39:43–39:50).

The Realities of Acting and Production

• It’s Not All Glamorous

  • The grueling production schedule, early call times, and physical discomforts (cold shoots, long hours) contrasted with the show’s chic image (27:22–30:09).

  • “We were walking down the street at 5am… people are screaming at us from cars… we’re freezing and you can see our breath, but you’re not supposed to…”
    — Kristin Davis, 29:38–30:09

• The Excitement and Appreciation

  • Despite it all, Kristin says acting remains a passionate calling, and now she can finally watch and appreciate the show with fresh eyes (31:32–32:02).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Table Reads:

  “Michael Patrick's very, very old school. So he wants to see what jokes work, where the slow parts are. It's very a performative type of a read through… if your jokes don't hit, they get cut.”
  — Amanda Hirsch, 03:54

• On Filming Bedroom Scenes:

  “We would never do that. That's like not cool. And also because in a bed scene… you’re physically so close… pretty much impossible to film without both people.”
  — Amanda Hirsch, 07:20

• On the Sex Scene Mint Dilemma:

  “Our camera crew had a box of mints on the front of their camera… Altoids were like, right there because that's how much we needed them.”
  — Amanda Hirsch, 24:17

• Reflecting on Slut-Shaming:

  “Men who had a lot of sexual partners are called romantic slash good kissers and women are called sluts.”
  — Interviewer, 36:06

  “That is not fair or good.”
  — Amanda Hirsch, 36:15

• On Charlotte’s Secret Numbers:

  “Each character has all the guys they had sex with. And guess who had the most—Me.”
  — Kristin Davis, 38:41

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Script Process & Read-Throughs: 03:38–06:37
• Table Read Drama/Charlotte’s Storyline: 05:30–06:28
• Filming Sex Scenes/Awkwardness: 07:12–11:09, 18:43–24:40
• Mint Problem & Guest Actor Strangeness: 24:03–25:26
• Sex Scene Scheduling Headaches: 25:56–26:51
• Industry Glamour vs. Reality: 27:22–30:09
• Are We Sluts? Debate Begins: 35:57–37:44
• Charlotte’s Secret Sex Life Stats: 38:29–39:50

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Tone and Final Thoughts

The episode was candid, self-deprecating, and packed with a sense of camaraderie—equal parts industry insider and Sex and the City superfan nostalgia. Kristin and Amanda balanced humor with open vulnerability, breaking the “fantasy” of TV magic to reveal very real anxieties, awkwardness, and social progress. Listeners come away with a fresh appreciation for both the show’s cultural contribution and the unglamorous realities behind its most memorable moments.

Transcript

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[Kristen Davis]

Hi, I'm Kristen Davis and I want to know, are you a Charlotte?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Hello, everybody.

[Kristen Davis]

Welcome back to Are you a Charlotte? This is part two with Amanda Hirsch rewatching Are we sluts? And she is the host of not skinny but not fat. Welcome back. Here we go.

[Interviewer]

So you filmed only your stuff. So all this other stuff is being filmed. So at the time, were you reading their scenes?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yes, yes. We would get the script. You know, we would get the first script. When you're, you're, you're working, you're in the middle of it, you get the script and it's the first version. It may not be, you know, what ends up being filmed. Right? You'd get the script. We would all like rush home to read it or read it at lunch or whatever. We'd be so excited, right? Like, what's going to happen then? We would have a read through with everybody because Michael Patrick's very, very old school. So he wants to see what jokes work, where the slow parts are. You know, it's very a performative type of a read through where like, if your jokes don't hit, they get cut. Which I still am trying to explain to the young actors who played my children. And then just like that, I'm like, you guys have to like perform, okay. Because I don't want your stuff to get cut.

[Interviewer]

Oh, like you still did that?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But it grew, it grew and grew and grew. Like in the olden days, we would do it in this writer's room upstairs at Silver Cup. Do you know Silver cup studios?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So, you know, it's like that old bread factory. It's very vertical building. It's not a normal soundstage. And upstairs is where the writers were. So we'd go up there at lunchtime, we'd be working. We would only have an hour. We'd go up there, we'd be in this little writer's room. No one from HBO would come. It was like very low key, but it was just us, our writers, our actors reading quick, quick, quick to see what works, right? And then later on there might be. The writers would meet after the read through and discuss what worked, what didn't work, what stands out to them, what they want to tw or maybe just throw out whole storylines, right? Like, they might. We might. We would time it. So if it was over, a storyline might get cut.

[Interviewer]

Damn. Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And then they'd rewrite. So you'd get the next script and then they might rewrite again before you film it. So there'd be a little bit of time that you get to kind of process what your character's doing and you might, you know, get to potentially change it. I remember this read through where this man is shouting, you know, you. I went to Cynthia right when I got the script and I was like, I do not like this storyline. I don't want to do it. I don't like it. And she was like, it's hysterical. You've got to do it. And I was like, no, I don't like it. I think it's so over the top and, you know, not, not fair for Charlotte to get to have to be called these names. Like, I was just very in it. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, not objective at all. And so we go to the read through and everyone laughs so hard like, oh, no, you know, definitely gonna have to do it, you know. And Nicole Hlofsener was directing this episode. Do you know who she is?

[Interviewer]

No.

[Amanda Hirsch]

She's very, very cool. Indie film writer and director who we're just really lucky that we got. She also did a lot of Parks and Rec, like, at the time.

[Kristen Davis]

She.

[Amanda Hirsch]

She's done all these films with Emily Mortimer. She did a film with Jennifer Aniston. I can't remember all the names right now, but you would know them. They're. They're very character driven, like intimate films, you know, very kind of real. Very, very real. She was directing and when we go to do this scene with this guy whose name I've just blocked out. I'm sorry, actor. But you know, we're filming and they film his side first, right. So you know how they, you know, they're doing close ups and whatnot and we're really, really close to each other. We have like a tiny set.

[Interviewer]

Like, you have to be there.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, yeah.

[Interviewer]

During his time too. Even if they. They're not because they're not showing you.

[Amanda Hirsch]

We never aren't there. You know what I'm saying? We would never do that. We would never do that. That's like not cool.

[Interviewer]

That's like faking it. That's like fake.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. And like not nice to the actors. You know what I'm saying? The other actors, right?

[Interviewer]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Not cool. And also because in a Bed scene.

[Interviewer]

Your.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Your shoulder. You're. You're. You know, you're physically so close that that would pretty much be impossible to film without, you know, both people.

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[Amanda Hirsch]

So for some reason, they do his side first, which is not also totally cool. Like, you're supposed to do the people who are in the show all the time first because, like, when you're fresh or whatever. But obviously I'm just reacting to him, you know, And I think it had to do with how I think at this point, Charlotte does not have an entire apartment still. I have, like, two walls that they would move from my bedroom. And occasionally we see outside my bedroom, but mostly we just see my bedroom. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, it's. It's. I have not expanded into my beautiful apartment. That is coming. Obviously, I haven't. I don't have Trey's apartment yet, but, you know, I just have, like two. Two walls and a lamp and a bed and a little bedside table and one picture of this woman falling through water. It's kind of a dark, interesting image. Anyway, I'm there. Nicole is there. This dude is there. I've never met this guy. You know what I'm saying? It's one of the.

[Interviewer]

Wait, he wasn't at the table read.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I don't think he was. I mean, if he was, I don't remember. It's possible that he was. Somet wouldn't have been cast yet.

[Interviewer]

Got you. So somebody else would do his reading, right?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, we would usually have a reader, a male reader and a female reader for any parts that weren't cast yet. And also, Michael Padraick usually reads the stage directions, which is adorable. So the guy's there, and Nicole. Nicole, her only direction for him is like, shout louder. Louder. Really shout it in her face. And I'm like, oh, my God, Nicole. It's bad enough.

[Interviewer]

Like, why?

[Amanda Hirsch]

And so he's just shout. Just so loud. Oh, my God. Like, literally just right, like, next to me.

[Interviewer]

King bitch, you king whore. Over and over again for how many hours?

[Amanda Hirsch]

I mean, probably not that long. Like, I'd say a couple hours for him and then a couple hours for me, you know, like, long enough, let's put it that way. Then we go to lunch. He asks me if his girlfriend can come to lunch, and I'm like, no, because I'm finished, so maybe she could watch for the rest of the day. I'm like, yeah, no, no, because when we're doing a bedroom scene, it's a closed set, right? So, like, no extra people can can come. And also, I wasn't done acting Journey. So we go to lunch. We come back. I'm so cranky, right? Super cranky. And we come back and it's on me. And the camera's like, you know.

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[Amanda Hirsch]

My face and Nicole's like, make bigger faces. My God, Nicole. I mean, every time I see her, I remind her of this. She doesn't remember, but, you know, that was her direction for both of us. Was like, bigger. Like, everyone just thought this was so funny. I don't really think it's that funny.

[Interviewer]

Wait, now I'm trying to think if your face. I feel like your face was very, like, upset. Pretty Charlotte. You know what I mean? It wasn't like. Like, it. Was it supposed to be crazier? Like, were you supposed to be like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I have no idea what she wanted.

[Interviewer]

You were like, off put.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Of course. Yes.

[Interviewer]

Was the vibe.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yes. I mean, I was unclear myself on what she wanted. You know what I mean? Like, what, What? How big of a face can I make? Like, in bed with the dude shouting, like, I don't. I don't know. So I. That's really all I could think about when I was watching it. I still feel. I still feel like I am in that moment when I'm watching it. Yeah.

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[Amanda Hirsch]

Because it is strange. I've never really had that happen to me in life. Thank God, because I would be out of there.

[Interviewer]

Okay, well, I was thinking about it when I was watching. I was like, okay, like, people for sure have that right. People like to be. People like to be called names. Like, it's not. It's. It's like, pretty. I'm assuming normal. And everyone has their, like, bedroom preferences. Yeah. Usually I think the. The whole vibe, you know, especially today, is like, you gotta talk about it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right. You have to have agreement.

[Interviewer]

You have to, like. Right. You have to. You have to, like, kink it out, talk about it. Have the. Have the other person be down or not or whatever.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

But here was this special situation that I feel like maybe is a little fantastical, which is that he didn't know he was doing it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I know. Which is super interesting. And I didn't remember that either.

[Interviewer]

Yeah. Where he didn't know he was doing it and, like. Which was sweet. Then when he tried not to do it, like. Sweet. Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And it was sweet at the dinner. I hadn't remembered the dinner either. I didn't really know. I. I remember the scene where I'm. The coffee shop scene where, you know, they're like, what did you Do. And I'm like, oh, well, you know, And I flashback, you know, I remember that, and I remember just thinking, like, I remember feeling me, Kristen, that I would have been. This was one of the times where I kind of felt like I would have been more angry. But this is also the time where they would always say to me, like, charlotte does not get angry. And I would just be like, why, you guys?

[Kristen Davis]

Like, who doesn't get angry?

[Amanda Hirsch]

And why wouldn't Charlotte, who literally has, like, the most lofty ideals, right? Like, her idea of romance and all of the things that she wants are so specific and beautifully etched in her own mind. Why wouldn't she be angry when things don't live up to that, you know?

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

It took me a good, good. I think it was only after the marriage and things starting to fall apart that they would be like, okay, now you can get angry. And I'd just be like, thank God, people. Jesus.

[Interviewer]

But does it make sense to you in retrospect, like, why.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I get it in some ways in that, like, she. Charlotte is very different from the other girls, right. And so it's trying to kind of etch out each character's kind of area, you know? And Miranda is kind of. I don't know if angry is the right word. It's kind of a simple word to use for her, but, you know, definitely much more quick to be like, you did. Da, da, da, da. And I get that Charlotte's not gonna be. I guess there was an innocence that they wanted maybe, you know, that I. That I. Maybe Kristen didn't have. Right. So that was a way to kind of go towards that kind of an innocent reaction as opposed to, like, how dare you?

[Interviewer]

You know what I mean?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, I would be much more like, what the. Like, da, da, da. What is that? You know, I would call them on it, I think, right away, because I. It would just be strange, right? But they. There's an innocence, and I guess it was a way to get to the innocence and stay in the innocence, I guess. But sometimes when I look back on it, I do feel like there could have been, like, a wider range of.

[Interviewer]

A. Yeah, I get you.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But I'm nitpicking.

[Kristen Davis]

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[Interviewer]

I have a question about the sex scenes. Yeah, like, because this was technical. Was it technical? Was there an intimacy coordinator?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Definitely no, we did not have them.

[Interviewer]

But like there were sex scenes, like with this guy, which I don't know, like, like we're not meant to see this crazy chemistry, right? With you and him, it's literally just like this kind of vibe. Like that's what we're saying, right? So, like, those were those, like, choices because obviously there are, you know, people that you have chemistry with where. I remember that Charlotte gets on top sometimes. She's like feeling herself. Like, I mean, thank God, right?

[Amanda Hirsch]

I thought about that watching this. I'm like, God, this is just the boring sex ever, right?

[Interviewer]

So that's what I wondered about too. I was like, I wonder if it's like they're the guys that. Because she doesn't even look like she's enjoying it, you know, like, not at all. Not at all. If she was enjoying it, then like, call me a name. Like, let's say that's what.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, maybe she does try a lot of stuff, but not that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know why she, why would she.

[Interviewer]

Be into it if she's just like being like literally just pounded with no vibes.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I'm with you. I'm with you 100%. It was, I think, a challenge of the show, right? And again, this comes back to the A, B, C, D storylines. So when you're thinking about that, you know, really economical use of the time of the show, right? We've got this very kind of in depth storyline with Aiden without sex, right? Like so much incredible kissing, as you appropriately said. Like, it's so good to watch them kiss. And there's a lot of kind of quiet moments with them and everything. Then we've got the Samantha storyline, which really, if you think about it, is told very succinctly, you know, but also really interesting moments of her being Silent and feeling that judgment in the elevator.

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[Amanda Hirsch]

But really quick, then we've got more time happening with Steven Miranda, which is needed. Right. She's gotta go through her body count list. She's gotta discuss chlamydia with them. Now he has to go to the doctor. She's gotta call the guys. Steve's gotta have his whole, like, you know, I'm cute and I'm gonna bartender moment. Like, there's a lot. It's pretty in depth, right. So that means, Charlotte, they're not going to have time. You know what I mean? And there were scenes in the past before this. And it was part of the reason I was so thankful. I knew at this point that Trey was coming, you know, that. That I was, like, on the way to getting what Charlotte thought she wanted, you know. And there were a lot of guys that had to come come on that road, as we know. And there were some times where I would have a sex scene that was kind of like. But, you know, like a joke, you know. Like, I remember with the widow guy, the guy that I hit with the flowers in the funeral, you know, at the funeral. That sex scene was, like, so ick and nothing. And the camera just pans by us and she's got a voiceover that connects it. Like, it's such a laughing. And I hated to do those. I mean, I think everyone hates to.

[Interviewer]

Do those, you know, like, it's like gratuitous and it doesn't have, like, a point.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. I mean, it's hard to say gratuitous in our show. Right. Which is called Sex and the City.

[Interviewer]

Right, Right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Like, we know that it's part of it, and we know that it's part of the storytelling that you have to show the. Just the basic. And that there's maybe some other other, you know, thing that's coming. Like, I think with Charlotte, we don't have time to really investigate this, like I said, because it's the other characters that. That are taking time. And I know that it's a stop on the way. And I feel like they were trying to show all of the crazy things that could happen on the way. That you're looking for the person. Right. And then you finally find the person, you're like, oh, thank God. You know, like, she'd been through a lot. You know, it was a lot of pies in the face type situation.

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Which is true for all. All of our characters. Right. Like, we always were having. That was part of the gig. Right. That you would have to. Embarrassing moments. But I never really necessarily enjoyed that, you know? Yeah. I don't know that any of us did. I don't want to speak for the others, but, like, that. It's a little bit hard to do.

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But I think we understood the bigger. The bigger point. Right. Which is, like, you're. We're trying to get somewhere. We're trying to tell these stories. We're trying to be free about it, you know, like, not precious, but as an actor, it's hard. It's hard sometimes to do that.

[Interviewer]

So this was one of them for you?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah, I didn't like it. Didn't like it at all. But also because, like, I don't even know do that guy.

[Kristen Davis]

Do we kiss?

[Amanda Hirsch]

I mean, there's. There's less required of you for those. Jordan.

[Interviewer]

Right, right, right, right. Just to be, like, breathed on. I don't love being breathed on, so I always wonder about that, you know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I do know, like, there's a lot of things you don't think about, you know?

[Interviewer]

I think about it.

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[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Interviewer]

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[Amanda Hirsch]

So true. It's so true.

[Interviewer]

People pleasing, whatever. She said that both of them were ODing on mints to the point where they got, like, physically ill because. No, like, I want to smell good for you, and I want to. You know what I mean? And they're like, no, stop eating mints.

[Amanda Hirsch]

We had. Our camera crew had a box of mints on the front of their camera. So, like, the camera would be very close. Right. And so there was just like, Altoids were like, right there because that's how much we needed them.

[Interviewer]

But did you have experiences with even, like, guest actors, like, this guy breathing on you where you were like. Or did they ODN mints? Because they.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I don't remember if this guy OD'd on mint, because all I remember was just like, really just being like, get me out of here, please. And I'm sorry, it's not really professional that I'm saying that, but it is the truth. At the time especially. And I still remember it because I never liked the storyline and then everyone liked it but me. You know what I mean? It was just one of those awkward things. And I remembered. I. I can't remember. I mean, I do. I remember another guy early on in the show because it was very much a role reversal that the guys would kind of come through as the girlfriend type parts. Right? Like, that a guy would just show up on set and you're just in bed with them. Like, that's not a normal guy part. Do you know what I mean?

[Interviewer]

Right, right, right, right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. So they would be just a little thrown off, like, how do I do this? And we would have to try to make it okay and whatever. And I would do my best. And then sometimes I just didn't do that well. And this would be one of them. And then the. The widower storyline, that was a whole long storyline. So it wasn't like Kurt, Kurt, that actor. I was not upset with Kurt. I just didn't love that one sex scene. And I think I had to come in at like 11pm to film it also. So I was cranky about that, you know.

[Interviewer]

I can't believe you remember that.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I remember when stuff.

[Interviewer]

Really you remember, like, what time you had to come to?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Well, it's because I was mad about it and because also they had. It's one of those scenes, like if you have a scene that they can move, they'll move it. Like, your schedule changes many times. I don't know how many. I'm sure you go through this with scheduling actors. You think you have the day off and then you don't have the day off because they're moving your scene around. It's like the end of the day thing where they might have filmed a whole nother day. Let's say they'll film with Sarah all day and then they have got to do her turnaround. Right. For her hours. So they'll send her home and they'll bring someone else in to film, say, the sex scene with Kurt, because it's just one scene and you maybe don't have to work in the morning. Are you following me? So it's like pieces and puzzles that they're moving around. But it doesn't necessarily make it easy on the other actor who has to come in at 11pm or whatever. Right. To shoot like a sex scene.

[Interviewer]

And you can't be like, I can't. Because that's like the only thing that you're doing at that time is the show. So you're available whenever they need you.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Well, they own you. They own you. And also, like, in. In our world, I' mean, you really have to think about, you know, the group. Like, you are part of a group and the group is important and the production is important. And, you know, you have to be a team player or that's not great. You know what I mean? Like, it's important.

[Interviewer]

I think, I think that it's nice for people to know because we see the glam side of what acting is and, like the red carpets and the, and the, the, the fancy stuff. Right, right. And I think that a lot of people don't know that. It's like, it's, it's, you know, it's a hard job. Like, I mean, yes, no. Yes, no, but, like, if you're filming out in the cold, you're filming out in the cold.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, yeah. And you're cold and you can't, you can't wear different clothes.

[Interviewer]

Like, it's not like you're. Because you're Kristen Davis, you're not going to be cold. Like, you.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And that's true.

[Interviewer]

Are both out in the cold. Like, and the hours. I mean. Seven. Yeah. I mean, you're not coal mining. I know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Interviewer]

But you're also not like, you know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I think it seems very coddled, and it's not necessarily very coddled. That's really your point. And I think that is valid. I mean, I think it's still, you know, a crazy fantasy job to have. Right. Like, and there's so many amazing things about it. And for all of us, you know, we live, you know, to act. Right. Like, that's what we feel passionate about, and that's really the key to everything. As you were saying about your own, you know, what you've created, like, you, you created it because you loved it. Right?

[Interviewer]

Yeah.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So you will do, you will do all of those things. And I think as actors, I mean, I don't know if this is still true today, but certainly when I was coming up, you didn't expect to be coddled, you know, like, like all of that was kind of surprising in a way. Like, all of us, I think, thought we were gonna do plays. And, you know, you're doing eight shows a week, and it's like, you know, hard. You know what I'm saying? Like, like theater is, is, you know, you're, you're out there alone. You gotta perform. You know, you're not. There's no coddling. It's not possible to coddle you in theater. Right. In a way. But then I think when you get film jobs or TV jobs, you're just like, whoa, what? You know, like, the excitement part is so much that you're just like, I'm going to savor every moment. And then after a while, it does get to Be like, wow, my knees are shaking. I'm freezing. Could we get a space theater? You know what I mean? Yeah.

[Interviewer]

Could we get a space theater?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

But also, I think that's back to what we talked about a little bit too in the beginning, is that, you know, in the beginning of the show, we didn't want to take the fantasy away. And so we, like people say, like, oh, it must be so much fun, the clothes and, you know, you're walking down the street and it was. Right. But also, like, we were walking down the street at 5am and people are screaming at us from cars and we're freezing and you can see our breath, but you're not supposed to see our breath because it's supposed to be summer. And so we're having, like, weird things, right?

[Interviewer]

Like, weird.

[Amanda Hirsch]

The physical reality of filming the show was sometimes hard, but we always felt like we should, you know, protect, protect, protect that. That the viewers didn't necessarily need. Need to know that, but now we kind of can't. Right. Like the. I think everyone knows so much more, but I also feel. I also feel like I want people to just be able to escape into the show and love it, you know?

[Interviewer]

Right.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And not think about all of the things I'm telling you.

[Interviewer]

I think mostly people don't. Like, I feel like with Sex in the City, people are more thinking, like, character wise, like, is this cringe? Is this not cringe? Like, you know, is this happening today? Is it not? That's more of what I'm saying. So luckily they don't. They're not into like those small stuff.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I agree. I agree. And I think for me re watching, I definitely feel pulled in, you know, to the storyline in a way that I don't even know if I was. I mean, I certainly watched the show when we made it, but it would be like a rough cut that I would see on a VHS tape, you know, before it aired on hbo. And I probably would not watch it on hbo, I don't think, unless someone invited me over or something. You know what I mean? Like a friend. But I didn't. I didn't. I wasn't able to look at it objectively at the time, you know.

[Interviewer]

Wow. So that's probably so nice for you now, like, so cathartic. No?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, yeah. I mean, yeah. I don't know if it's cathartic necessarily. It's more just like amazing. I feel very, very, you know, just odd every time I see things that I didn't see before. And all the details of the work and the writing and the production and the clothes and the. I mean there's so I get to enjoy it like a viewer, I guess.

[Kristen Davis]

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[Amanda Hirsch]

You know what we didn't talk about is the overall theme. Like, are we sluts? It's a good question. I think no.

[Interviewer]

And men who had a lot of sexual partners are called romantic slash good kissers and.

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[Interviewer]

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[Amanda Hirsch]

Right. That is not fair or good.

[Interviewer]

But is that still happening?

[Amanda Hirsch]

This is a good question. I feel like in the hookup culture of today it might not be. But I don't know if I know.

[Interviewer]

So here's what I would base my answer off of. Is like a love island. Okay.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yeah. I've never seen it.

[Kristen Davis]

Tell me.

[Interviewer]

Okay, so that's a dating show where they're all like in bikinis and on an island, whatever.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Right.

[Interviewer]

I feel like they talk about body count and this is like, you know, and they talk about body count. They all say their numbers and I don't think that it's. There's like bias there in the love island world.

[Amanda Hirsch]

So they just talk freely.

[Interviewer]

Yeah, they talk freely. Like, what's your body count like? They have challenges. Like it's a whole thing.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Wow.

[Interviewer]

And that's, you know, but it's the new, you know, kind of generation of being super open, you super out there and like not giving a. I wonder though, do people ask, do people even like, I feel like that's something you ask like when you're in a relationship.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I think so too.

[Interviewer]

I mean, you know, and then it's just like of interest. Like, oh, wait, like how many. You know. Yeah, people do ask on first dates. I know from friends. Like People do want to know about past relationships, but past sex, like, right, what does that matter? You know, I don't think it does.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I don't think. I don't. I. I know it. I mean, no one's asked me in.

[Interviewer]

A long time, like, how many guys. Like, why? Why would you ask that?

[Amanda Hirsch]

Totally. Yes. I think that would be a red flag if someone asked that early on.

[Interviewer]

You know, there would be a red flag. But I kind of love how in the show that question is posed. Because at that time, women would probably be called sluts for.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, definitely, Definitely.

[Interviewer]

But you girls were owning it. And even Charlotte, in her prudy way, was getting down. Like she wasn't not having the sex, even though she was like, she wanted to call it making love and whatever the hell, but, like, she was still doing it.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Oh, yeah. You know, at the end of the show, the first show, we made a.

[Kristen Davis]

Book called Kiss and Tell.

[Amanda Hirsch]

And on the last page of Kiss and Tell is like a timeline with the guys. So each character has all the guys they had sex with. And guess who had the most.

[Interviewer]

You did.

[Amanda Hirsch]

Yes.

[Interviewer]

Wait, this book was like, what went between you guys? It was like.

[Amanda Hirsch]

No, it was a book in the.

[Kristen Davis]

World that you could buy.

[Interviewer]

Really?

[Amanda Hirsch]

It's a very cool book. Yeah. I don't know if it's still in print or not. We should find one. It's a great book. It's got like. It was in, you know, obviously Merch is like a whole thing now, right, where, you know, there's merch to do with everything. But back in the day, it wasn't so much so. And we also were on hbo, right. So we weren't trying to, like, put out T shirts and stuff like that, you know. But this book was really beautiful. Sarah was involved with. Had like pink faux alligator, and it said Kiss and Tell on it. And it had a bunch of, you know, kind of beautiful PR stills, but also some behind the scenes stuff. It had a section about a section for each character, like, chapter. And then I think there's a chapter on costumes maybe, or, you know, different things. It was. It was kind of innocent in a kind of adorable way.

[Interviewer]

And then you had the most. That's crazy.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I was shocked.

[Interviewer]

Like, more than Samantha.

[Kristen Davis]

I know.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I was shocked. I don't know how it happened. I don't know how it happened.

[Interviewer]

We have to go and count guys. We have to find the book.

[Amanda Hirsch]

We definitely.

[Interviewer]

We have to verify this information.

[Amanda Hirsch]

I know, I know. The girls would be like, look, you have the most. Thank you for being with us.

[Interviewer]

Oh my God. Yes. Thank you. Really, thank you so much.

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[Amanda Hirsch]

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