Mother Daughter Date with Cathy Ang (Lily Goldenblatt)...

Summary

Podcast Summary: "Are You A Charlotte?" Episode - Mother Daughter Date with Cathy Ang (Lily Goldenblatt)

Release Date: June 24, 2025
Host: Kristin Davis (Charlotte York)
Guest: Cathy Ang (Lily Goldenblatt)

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1. Introduction

In this heartfelt episode of "Are You A Charlotte?", Kristin Davis welcomes Cathy Ang, who portrays Lily Goldenblatt, Charlotte York's daughter on the acclaimed series "Sex and the City." The episode delves into Kathy's journey on the show, her experiences both on and off the screen, and the evolving dynamics between her character and Charlotte.

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2. Kathy’s Journey into "Sex and the City"

Joining the Cast Without Prior Viewing
Kathy shares a unique aspect of her casting process—auditioning for "Sex and the City" without having watched the show beforehand.

Kathy Ng [04:19]: "I didn't get to watch the show, and then watching the show, actually, after already being cast, I was like, holy guacamole."

Kristin Davis [04:19]: "You had not seen it when you auditioned for 'And Just Like That'."

This unconventional approach highlights Kathy's trusting nature and the strong belief the casting team had in her potential to embody Lily.

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3. Building Relationships on Set

Bond with Kristin Davis and Fellow Cast Members
Kathy emphasizes the supportive environment fostered by Kristin and the entire crew, making her transition into the show smooth and enriching.

Kathy Ng [10:03]: "I really appreciated that you were making a space for me."

Kristin Davis [10:23]: "You're so easy, Kathy. You're a little dream."

Their camaraderie not only eased Kathy's nerves but also created a familial atmosphere that transcended the typical actor-crew relationship.

Working with Sarah Jessica Parker
Kathy recounts her experiences working alongside Sarah Jessica Parker, describing her as a consummate professional who helps new actors navigate the complexities of the set.

Kathy Ng [20:08]: "Coming from a theater background, and she's just such a pro."

Kristin Davis [22:04]: "She's the master of her clothes for sure, but also the props."

Their collaboration is marked by mutual respect and a shared commitment to authenticity in their performances.

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4. Character Development and Personal Growth

Evolving with the Show
Kathy discusses her character Lily's growth from a child to a confident young woman, mirroring her own development as an actress.

Kathy Ng [11:32]: "Season three, I'm actually like, I feel good about season three. There's things."

Kristin Davis [11:51]: "She’s like a woman. So many emotions."

This evolution allows Kathy to explore diverse aspects of her character, enriching her portrayal and deepening her connection with the audience.

Balancing Friendship and Motherhood
The dynamic between Charlotte and Lily showcases a balance between parental guidance and friendship, offering a nuanced portrayal of modern motherhood.

Kathy Ng [03:25]: "It's a wonderful window into what both someone who is protecting someone and, like, truly also having to teach someone life lessons."

This relationship highlights the complexities of nurturing independence while providing unwavering support.

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5. Behind the Scenes Insights

Set Dynamics and Crew Dedication
Kathy praises the dedicated crew, many of whom have been part of the show for over two decades, emphasizing their commitment despite the high-pressure environment.

Kathy Ng [18:07]: "Everyone on the crew is incredible, and they've been together for so many years."

Kristin Davis [18:10]: "They're the nicest crew."

Their longevity and expertise contribute significantly to the show's consistent quality and supportive atmosphere.

Production Challenges and Adaptability
Discussing the unpredictability of on-set conditions, Kathy highlights the importance of staying grounded and adaptable.

Kristin Davis [16:54]: "The whole job is to ground yourself and to be able to be present."

Kathy Ng [17:27]: "It's a high-pressure environment, and when things go wrong, everyone manages to find a solution gracefully."

This adaptability ensures smooth production processes and fosters a collaborative spirit among the team.

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6. Navigating Public Reception and Social Media

Managing Recognition and Privacy
Kathy shares her mixed feelings about being recognized in public and the impact of social media on her personal life.

Kathy Ng [14:47]: "I get recognized like three times down one street. It's exciting but nerve-wracking."

Kristin Davis [26:39]: "For those who have been doing this job forever, we were just so thankful to be able to make a new show."

She balances the joy of connecting with fans with the desire to maintain personal privacy, emphasizing the importance of mental well-being.

Audience Reactions Post-COVID
The conversation touches on launching the show post-COVID, addressing the challenges and gratitude associated with resuming production.

Kristin Davis [26:39]: "We were just getting out of COVID and were so lucky to be working again."

This timing added a layer of significance to the show's release, resonating deeply with both the cast and the audience.

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7. Legacy and Future of the Show

Impact of "Sex and the City" on Careers
Kathy reflects on how the show has opened numerous opportunities for her and the lasting impact it has had on women's lives.

Kathy Ng [14:47]: "The show has opened up so many opportunities for me."

Kristin Davis [28:13]: "It's so crazy that we even get to do the show."

The enduring legacy of "Sex and the City" continues to influence and inspire both cast members and viewers alike.

Commitment to Creative Vision
Kristin discusses the creative direction and the importance of pushing boundaries while maintaining the show's core essence.

Kristin Davis [29:05]: "We are a much, much beloved entity. He really needed to know, what do you want to do creatively?"

This dedication ensures that the show remains relevant and continues to evolve with contemporary themes.

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8. Conclusion and Teasers for Upcoming Episodes

As the episode wraps up, Kristin and Kathy tease the next segment, promising a rewatch and discussion of the episode titled "The Freak Show," maintaining the show's blend of nostalgia and fresh insights.

Kristin Davis [31:02]: "This is going to conclude the first half... Please come back everybody."

Listeners are left anticipating more engaging conversations and behind-the-scenes stories in future episodes.

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Notable Quotes:

• Kathy Ng [04:19]: "I didn't get to watch the show, and then watching the show, actually, after already being cast, I was like, holy guacamole."

• Kristin Davis [10:23]: "You're so easy, Kathy. You're a little dream."

• Kathy Ng [14:47]: "The show has opened up so many opportunities for me."

• Kathy Ng [22:54]: "It's a high-pressure environment, and when things go wrong, everyone manages to find a solution gracefully."

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This episode offers an intimate look into Kathy Ang's experiences on "Sex and the City," highlighting the deep-rooted relationships, professional growth, and the enduring impact of the show. Through candid conversations and personal anecdotes, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of what it means to be part of such an iconic series.

Transcript

[Kristin Davis]

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[Kathy Ng]

I feel so grateful that I got to just spend some time going around the city with you. This was really fun. I mean, we don't get this opportunity to just like kind of hang.

[Kristin Davis]

I know it. We're always working. I am a busy gal, but so are you. And when we're normally together, we're at work. So obviously it's a little bit different. So it was really fun. And now we're here at the podcast, which is also really fun because I have so many questions for you and, and I'm really excited to talk to you because Kathy, as I'm sure our listeners know, plays my daughter on and just like that. And she plays Lily. Now, Lily, we were just reminded earlier by one of our producers who watched the first movie on the plane. Lily is the reason the first wedding didn't happen.

[Kathy Ng]

I know.

[Kristin Davis]

Kind of.

[Kathy Ng]

I mean, well, you know, there's some magic juju around my character believing that Carrie is meant for other things, you know, like, so I don't know why my aunt Carrie isn't supposed to be.

[Kristin Davis]

You do have a really special relationship with Aunt Carrie. Sometimes I feel jealous.

[Kathy Ng]

Well, I mean, I have a relationship with her, but I. We have so much time together and like, you as a mom on this show are much like closer to a friend in ways that like, I mean, like, okay. It's true though. It's like you are kind of, your character is so open and communicative with Lily. About things that I think I would have been really uncomfortable talking about with my mom, for sure. Yeah. You know, and I think it's, like, it's a wonderful window into what both someone who is protecting someone and, like, truly also having to teach someone life lessons, like, how you can balance also being their friend. It's. It's a. It's. They do it well.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm so glad.

[Kathy Ng]

It's a hard thing to balance.

[Kristin Davis]

So, like, I'm so glad to hear that. Yeah. I mean, Charlotte's motherhood journey is quite something. And ongoing. Ongoing, which we love. We love so much.

[Kathy Ng]

I mean, I've been doing the rewatch, and it's, like, so lovely to watch that, to go through that journey with you.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. To know that you're starting way back and where we've been able to go is incredible.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, I agree. I agree. It's incredible to player when people say, oh, you know, doesn't it become boring to play the same character? I'm like, no, not.

[Kathy Ng]

No.

[Kristin Davis]

You're so different. Right?

[Kathy Ng]

Like, you have the same dreams and goals and standards, but like, we were talking about in the car in our. In our Hyundai. Like, you are so grounded in, like, a different way now as a mom. And, like, watching it is different than also experiencing it as an actress with you, which is very fun. But I love Charlotte.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you. I'm so glad you do. So let me ask you this. Let's talk about. Okay, so when did you first see Sex in the City?

[Kathy Ng]

Okay, guys, I watched Sex in the City after I.

[Kristin Davis]

No way. What?

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

You had not seen it when you auditioned for. And just like that.

[Kathy Ng]

No.

[Kristin Davis]

Did you tell us that you hadn't.

[Kathy Ng]

Seen it, like, before I auditioned?

[Kristin Davis]

Am I gonna make you cry already?

[Kathy Ng]

Wait, what? No.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Kathy Ng]

Okay. So here's the thing again. It's like, I kind of grew up in a more conservative environment where, like, my. My parents would not have been comfortable with me watching the show, of course, when also, I really wish my mom had watched this show. You know? Like, there's so many things that I feel like, actually, I think my mom is a Charlotte, you know? And so, like, there's many ways where I feel like she could have found, like, more freedom in her life. And, like, anyway, it doesn't matter. But I didn't get to watch the show, and. And then watching the show, actually, after already being cast, I was like, holy guacamole.

[Kristin Davis]

You can say whatever you want.

[Kathy Ng]

Sure, sure. But just, like, so. So kind of taken aback by the world that I Was about to enter. I kind of. I didn't understand how great of an opportunity I had, honestly. Like, you know what I mean?

[Kristin Davis]

Interesting. Yeah.

[Kathy Ng]

And that probably would have freaked me.

[Kristin Davis]

Out more to have fully known.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah. To fully understand. Because it was like, it is so revolutionary. I mean, look, everyone has said this, but, you know, I know it. Like, everyone knows that it has changed so many women's lives forever. So, like, a lot of pressure coming in. In a good way, of course.

[Kristin Davis]

No, but I get that. I get that. I mean, it must be. I can't really imagine what it would be like to come in in the trajectory of the life of the show, you know, being Sex and City, then doing the films, then coming back to doing just like that. And so you had auditioned already gotten the part, and then watched Sex and the City.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Kathy Ng]

I watched. I watched the pilot because, you know, you do some research.

[Kristin Davis]

Sure.

[Kathy Ng]

I watched the pilot and the second episode because also, everything changes after the pilot. But, you know, you also just have to get your self tape in.

[Kristin Davis]

Of course. And your self tape was super brilliant. Thank you. Because you played the piano, which was one of the key parts of Lily, so. Cause Michael Patrick had already planned what was gonna happen at the beginning of the show. And so Lily being able to play the piano was so important. And you were so impressive. You're acting, and then you're playing. And did you sing for us then, or did we not know you could sing then?

[Kathy Ng]

I don't know. I mean, my agents might have sent something in with it because they always, like, you know, I have pieces where I'm playing piano and singing.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Kathy Ng]

But I know that I played, like, a really beautiful jazz piece from Happy ending, the musical maybe so good. And. And I just love that kind of music. And different from what Lily plays, of course. But, you know, I found some musicality. And, like, I grew up with music first. That was my first, like, art expression, you know, and it was very exciting. Anytime that I could audition and, like, have a little music, be a part of it.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Kathy Ng]

And so Lily was just like, oh, I. I am digging this. And I didn't even know how. How big this world, how juicy this world that she was gonna, like, enter would be.

[Kristin Davis]

So then you. You do a deep dive on the show.

[Kathy Ng]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And then you were like, oh, my gosh.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah. Then I was like, oh.

[Kristin Davis]

You can say anything.

[Kathy Ng]

Oh, whatever. Words.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Kathy Ng]

But in a. I think what was lovely is that, I mean, working with you every day.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you.

[Kathy Ng]

Okay, everyone's gonna come on the Podcast and talk about how, like, lovely you are, but it's just true. And the thing is that, like, you are.

[Kristin Davis]

I pay them all you guys, secretly. I'm paying them under the table right now. Go ahead.

[Kathy Ng]

But, you know, like, I hadn't ever been on a production, honestly, I came from a theater background, so first of all was, like, this is just, like, a big change in the style. And then also the level of production here, it's intimidating.

[Kristin Davis]

I get it. It's big. It's a big show. It's a big show. And everyone cares very deeply about every little detail.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Kathy Ng]

But our first day together, I don't know if you remember, like, our first day together was with Richard Burton.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God.

[Kathy Ng]

On my chest.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God. Yes. That's a great day. Yay. That was really fun. I have cute pictures from that day. We'll put them up on the Instagram.

[Kathy Ng]

Okay. Perfect. Yeah. Yeah. And you just, like, immediately were warm in a way that, like, not everyone is as warm, you know?

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you.

[Kathy Ng]

And people, people. It takes energy to do that. And I just could appreciate that, like, you were making a space for me.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely. I mean, you and Alexa were very important, and it was a. It was a big deal for us that you guys were now, like, functioning individuals in our story. After me, my character trying to get pregnant for so long, then having you as little children, which was one thing, and played by different actresses. Obvious and, like, a whole thing. And now to have you as, like, people we were planning to write storylines for, it was crazy to think about. And you were so perfectly cast, both of you, which was wonderful. Like, you've grown into, you know, the parts, and you're, like, so at ease, and, you know, it's wonderful to see.

[Kathy Ng]

I mean, it took some time because it was also, like, my nerves, my confusion, my I. I first season. My goodness.

[Kristin Davis]

You were not confused. Come on.

[Kathy Ng]

I was. I didn't know who I was. And I felt so grateful for how patient everyone was on. Everyone was very patient on set, but also, like, there were a million things going on.

[Kristin Davis]

First of all, I need to interrupt. You are so easy. You might not inside feel this way, but you are very easy. It does not take any work to be patient with you.

[Kathy Ng]

You.

[Kristin Davis]

You're a little dream. All you want to do is be perfect, which, you know, you're Charlotte's daughter. It's perfect that you want to be perfect, but also, like, we just try to reassure you, like, you already are perfect. That's all we have to do. That's the only thing. You're so easy, Kathy.

[Kathy Ng]

Well, okay, so I think something that has been really lovely just being able to be like a recurring and then now a series regular is like, I get to go on set and like, I watch you guys, I watch the three women, you know, and you're wearing so many hats and you like watching the way that you are paying attention to everything going on, you know, and like, you just know everyone's job, you know, where every. There's just an awareness there that, like, I didn't have the first season exactly. Well, how could you? I was just learning.

[Kristin Davis]

We've been doing this thing for 30 years.

[Kathy Ng]

I know, but, like, it's like, I'm so lucky. Not everyone can watch someone and, like, learn from them. Like you guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it's been an awesome journey for me, just like Kathy, to now feel way more confident. Season three, like, I'm actually like, I feel good about season three. There's things. Yeah, I feel really good about it.

[Kristin Davis]

You should. Absolutely. I mean, I think you've been a dream the whole time and you should be proud of all of it. I know it's hard to watch yourself as we talked about earlier, but I love season three and it's so great to see you kind of stretching in different ways, you know, and getting to do different things. And, you know, as your mom on screen, I am like, oh, my God.

[Kathy Ng]

She'S like a woman.

[Kristin Davis]

You know what I mean?

[Kathy Ng]

So many emotions.

[Kristin Davis]

It's crazy. I know, I know. But it's really fun and funny and when we have those family scenes, it is a complex, you know, day and kind of picture because there's so many people and so many different vibes going on. And, you know, it's always a big day for the crew for us to be in Charlotte's apartment because everything is so wonderful and perfect, blah, blah, blah. But, like, you're very, very easy. You need to know that you're very solid.

[Kathy Ng]

Well, thank you. We can stop complimenting each other. We can just keep talking about it.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Kathy Ng]

The show has opened up like so many opportunities for me.

[Kristin Davis]

Good.

[Kathy Ng]

I mean that's just what happens. Like it's, there's a huge community, you know. And so like I think first of all I learned about the fashion world, you know, just, I just started to. And it was a whole other form of expression that like I as Kathy was really uncomfortable with. Oh, I didn't really know. You know, like I've been in costumes before.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Kathy Ng]

But I've never really thought about myself like, hey, this is who I want to be today. I didn't really think about it like.

[Kristin Davis]

From a creative standpoint.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah. Thinking about like, hey, I can actually be an art piece myself.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Kathy Ng]

And that art that is on me can also actually like let me be a different person. I mean, okay, that's obviously what a costume does. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

But it's power. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kathy Ng]

When you get to choose it every day. And so like I think it was just really cool to start finding a new medium, you know, to express myself and like coming from music and Then going to acting and then, I don't know, it's just like, I feel like that's. That's what every artist, like, wants to be doing. Just kind of learning about something new. So there was that aspect of it. And then it was also strange that, like, I would ever be recognized. You know, I went to a bachelorette party for one of my friends in Texas. Okay. And I gotta say, I got recognized like, three times down one street. And it was really cool. And you know, like, it's exciting, it's nerve wracking, but, like, it's exciting to be a part of something that brings so many people joy, which you just know and.

[Kristin Davis]

No, it's true.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah. And so it was cool. That part's cool. I also just, you know, I think, like, I'm learning about acting still. Of course. We all are.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, we definitely.

[Kathy Ng]

And like, I think every day just trying to be more grounded on set is. Is a fun experience for me. Everyone on the. Everyone is like, constantly trying to challenge us. And yes, I had fun, especially this season.

[Kristin Davis]

Yay.

[Kathy Ng]

Testing, testing.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, look, this is the whole job, I think, is showing up, being grounded, trying to deal with whatever different thing that day is going on. It might be the props. It might be that it's too hot like we were talking about earlier. It might be that we're on Governor's island and we're too hot. There's so many different challenges that you don't necessarily know until that day when you show up. Right. So the whole work is to ground yourself and to be able to be present and then to do your part as best as you can from a place of being present. And you do that.

[Kathy Ng]

It's a nice set. Everyone is so supportive and, you know, like, it's a high pressure environment. Like, time is money. And so, like, yes. There's people who are like, we gotta go. We gotta do things. And like, when things go wrong, I'm really amazed, like, how everyone still manages so. Manages to find a solution and also be, like, be quite gracious.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Kathy Ng]

You know, as an actor too, like, you get some nice treatment. Yeah, you get some nice treatment. And like, I feel lucky to be on this kind of production where, like, I can talk to the crew and everyone just smiles.

[Kristin Davis]

They're so nice. They're the nicest crew.

[Kathy Ng]

So good.

[Kristin Davis]

I agree.

[Kathy Ng]

And I can't believe that they've, like. I mean, they've stayed all together. Like, so many people have been here for 20 years.

[Kristin Davis]

It's true. I mean, we're lucky A lot of people have also. We were talking earlier to another guest, John Benjamin Hickey, who you met, about people who have, like, gone on to be huge deals. Like, we can't get them anymore on our show. You know what I mean? Which is wonderful. Right, because they're so talented.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And we're just like, oh, wow. They're over there directing. They used to operate camera A. You know, but it's a wonderful. It's a wonderful thing. But. But, you know, it's been great. Just in New York City to. To be able to. You know, the crews here are incredible, and they've been together. Some of them are like fifth generation, you know, union generation. Yeah. Like, it's incredible. Teamsters, you know, so many. So many whole families. Like, you'll have brothers and cousins, and, you know, the dad will have retired and, you know, it's amazing. And also, they just work such crazy long hours.

[Kathy Ng]

Dude, I don't understand. Every time I get into a car and we have a conversation about just, like, being away from your kids that long, it's a huge commitment.

[Kristin Davis]

It's true. It's true.

[Kathy Ng]

So many of them have kids.

[Kristin Davis]

It's true. I know. The only good thing is that then you get time off and you get to choose whether you work or not. So that's the. The. The positive of the job is that you might, for instance, get a summer off.

[Kathy Ng]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Or you might just choose to work. So you can sometimes pick and choose, which is great. And I know for. For myself as a mom, it's great if you are having the luxury to be able to make. Make those choices, you know, sometimes it's just not a great time, you know, so you don't do it. Not. Not counting our show, of course, which I go when I'm cold, you know, saying. I'm like, okay, we will make it work, but obviously our show is special situation. So wait, talk to me a little bit about working with Sarah Jessica, because you have some incredible scenes with Sarah Jessica. So you had watched the show by the time you came. So you knew. You knew. And were you scared? Were you intimidated?

[Kathy Ng]

I. Okay. Also, I feel like, kind of embarrassed about the.

[Kristin Davis]

What? What?

[Kathy Ng]

Well, just the first couple of times that we got to work together again, it's like, I. Coming from, like, a theater background, and she's just such a pro. I didn't know, like, oh, I don't have to cheat out, like, these things. These, like, so. Oh, my God, that's adorable.

[Kristin Davis]

Wait, I didn't ever see you cheating out.

[Kathy Ng]

Well, that's because Sarah Jessica knows how to help you. Like, just like, calm down, girl. The camera's going to follow. They're going to be just like these little things. Oh, my God. You know, there was one. Okay, so in our first scene together is after that we shot together, right? Oh, actually, no, it was the recital scene. But like one of our first, like, one on one scenes that we shot together was. I was talking about. I was mad at you about. I'm always mad at you about you.

[Kristin Davis]

Something you are about at me often is true.

[Kathy Ng]

Something about privacy. I'm not. I don't remember, but I went over to her house and.

[Kristin Davis]

And yeah, you have those special scenes with Aunt Carrie.

[Kathy Ng]

You are always so, like, you have these special scenes.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm like, you get to wear poncho well, okay. I don't even get to wear the poncho well, okay.

[Kathy Ng]

Let me tell you, though, I made this comment where I was like. Because I had been struggling to put. To figure out where the arms were.

[Kristin Davis]

Trying to put it on.

[Kathy Ng]

And then I told her, I said, like, oh, yeah, that one's a hard one to put on. Don't. I think I even said, like, don't worry about if, like, you can't figure. I don't know what I was thinking. Oh, my God, I'm so embarrassed about that.

[Kristin Davis]

So. Right.

[Kathy Ng]

And I said, like, don't worry about it if you can't figure it out. I don't know what I was. Cute came out of my mouth.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm sure she understands.

[Kathy Ng]

Oh, no, she wasn't. She was so lovely. And she was, like, laughing in such a charming way, like, oh, I don't have any problem with it.

[Kristin Davis]

Listen, she's the master of her clothes for sure, but also the props. Like, give that woman 12 props and she can handle it. I don't know how. And she can match her continuity every single day. Single time.

[Kathy Ng]

What is that special gift? So that's okay. That was actually on our first day, or maybe on a recital day we were shooting, and I went over to Video Village and I was like, trying to figure out what I had done with my left arm on what line. And then I remember that's when I first.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, this was the time.

[Kathy Ng]

That was the time that Michael Patrick King was like, he wants everything to just be natural and real. And you shouldn't be thinking about how you look on camera. And then he was like, no, no, no, no. I just don't want you to think about anything and just be.

[Kristin Davis]

Lily, hold on for one second. Let's tell our viewers what we mean, because I do realize we're using inside words. So Video Village on a set is when so, like, the director and the writers sit around in chairs around the monitors where they can see what's happening on all the different cameras that are rolling. And the actors were in the set, usually. But then we also. Between scenes, between action and cut, we can come over to Video Village. But in Sex and City World, and just like that, we don't watch playback. Now, some films, some television shows, maybe an actor might say, hey, I want to watch playback. Because they're going to learn from that. Like, if they're happy with it, if they're not happy with it, if they want to change what they're doing or recreate something that they did. None of us ever do that. And Michael Patrick doesn't really want us to be doing that also. We don't have time to do that.

[Kathy Ng]

Oh, no.

[Kristin Davis]

Because it takes a lot of time to roll back and then rewatch them. Sometimes the director, Michael Patrick or Julie or Cynthia or whoever it is might need to watch something back to make sure we did something correctly, like if we're moving the camera correctly or some. Some technical thing. So sometimes they'll watch it back. But if I ever hear my voice coming from Video Village, I run the other way. I'm so scared.

[Kathy Ng]

You're a good actress.

[Kristin Davis]

I don't want to see that. I don't want to see that. But I did work with a director, Robert Rodriguez, where he has these huge digital monitors, like, kind of a wall of them. And he would bring you over as an actor and be like, let's watch it together.

[Kathy Ng]

I'd be like, no, no.

[Kristin Davis]

He'd be like, let's watch it together. Be like, oh, do I have to? And he'd be like, I want you to watch it together. And you're like, okay, Robert. So you had to watch it. Very stressful.

[Kathy Ng]

Very, like, people. People like it. People hate it. Yeah, people. I mean, we were talking about this, like, whether or not you actually watch the final product, too. It's a very. It's a very personal thing for every actor.

[Kristin Davis]

It's true.

[Kathy Ng]

Because you don't want your performances to be about the final product, obviously.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Kathy Ng]

But also, like, you want to celebrate, like, what you guys have all made together. And, like, for me coming onto the show and, like, not really knowing who. Who Lily quite was at that moment, I had to watch everything in season one, and, God, it was really painful, but, like, you know, like, I needed to Learn more about Lily. And also like, to understand, you hear a note from a director, you do a take a certain way and, like, you don't always know, like, why.

[Kristin Davis]

Right, right, right.

[Kathy Ng]

And then. And once you watch it later on, you can kind of understand, oh, that's what they've got cooking for her.

[Kristin Davis]

Or.

[Kathy Ng]

Oh, that's why he. That's something that he keeps asking me or she, like, keeps asking me to lean into. So then. Now. Now maybe I won't watch myself.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. I mean, I do. I feel like there's different times in my career that I felt different ways about it and different jobs that I felt different ways about it. And for. For. And just like, that part of why I want to watch is because I want to see what everyone else was doing.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Because we're not always with everybody else. Right? Yeah.

[Kathy Ng]

We're so sad. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. You want to see Sarita, and you know that there's stuff that Nicole's in that I'm not in. I want to see, but sometimes it is hard to watch yourself. It really is. Really is. I. I feel you on that. Let's go back to you. So we come. We come on the show, and in the beginning, when it. When we were first coming on the air, and I mean, this was right after Covid, also, like, when we first started the show, we were just getting out of COVID where people could work again, and we were, I think, all felt so lucky to be working. Yes. I mean, I know for those of us who have been doing this job forever, we were just so thankful to be able to make a new show, to come back together. And then when it came on the air, we were so nervous about what everyone would say. And, of course, people have a lot of things to say, you know. How was that experience for you?

[Kathy Ng]

Well, okay, so you know that I am, like, really less on social media at this point.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Kathy Ng]

Which I think has been, like, good for my brain. Good for my brain. But also I feel sad about some of the connections that I have, like, missed, because it is, like, such a thing to celebrate being a part of a show like this. But, I mean, I think that, like, the. The reactions, I. I don't really care as much unless I feel like, you know, it's. It's something where I feel like, oh, that's something that we could work on later on, you know, And. Yeah, I mean, I. That's not. That's not very specific, really.

[Kristin Davis]

No, but it. That. That's. It's well put. It's basically saying you know that it's not necessarily healthy for you to be on to all the chatter because there's a lot of opinions out there.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah. And I. I did feel as though, like, people, especially right after the first season, honestly, like, I didn't feel like people were giving everyone a chance to be a different version of themselves.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. I think that's true. And I do kind of understand now, I have to say, at the time, I just knew what we wanted to do. Right. So my eye was on that, like, what our mission was.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

But now that I'm rewatching the show for the podcast, I have a lot greater understanding of kind of what we've asked of the audience over this time.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Because it's a long time.

[Kathy Ng]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

And so for people who grew up with us the first time or were our age and coming along, whatever it was, or newer people who are just seeing it, you know, our characters have gone quite a distance.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And, you know, we killed the character that some people loved. Some people didn't. Some people did. I mean, we. We really have asked so much of our audience, and I'm so grateful that we even get the chance. Right. Like, it's so crazy that we even get to do the show.

[Kathy Ng]

It is. This feels like. I mean, it's unheard of.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly. So I just trying to focus on.

[Kathy Ng]

I'm trying to think of, like, there's.

[Kristin Davis]

No. There isn't. No. Especially if you count the movies.

[Kathy Ng]

These guys are just like, every. Oh, my goodness.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. But it's never easy. I mean, Michael and Sarah had to go pitch the show, like, to hbo. Like, you know, please, can we explain the show to you? This is what we want to do.

[Kathy Ng]

It's like, whatever those two want to do. I feel like the world.

[Kristin Davis]

I agree. Give it to them. I agree. Give it to them. But let me say this. Let me say this. Casey Bloys, who runs hbo, who we've known forever, to him, you know, we are a much, much beloved entity. So he really needed to know, well, what is the new mission? Is there a new mission? How are we gonna push the envelope in this day and age? Right. So he had some really, really valid questions because he cares so much.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

So it wasn't like, well, you guys have to prove yourself. It was more just like, what do you want to do creatively? What is the creative idea? And in that way, he's totally right, you know.

[Kathy Ng]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes. Yes.

[Kathy Ng]

But that's just like, that's meeting already about production. Yeah, absolutely.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm with You, Kathy. I'm with you. All right. Are you a Charlotte?

[Kathy Ng]

I really think I am. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

No, I mean.

[Kathy Ng]

Okay, so I didn't think this before, actually. I mean, okay, there's but the core, this desire of hers to like build a family and take care of people is something that I've always wanted to do. I've like, looked forward to that. And like, there is something exciting about watching like a woman who cares about that very traditional value who isn't really that traditional in the end. Yeah, yeah. And just like she's just so. Yeah. So I, at least I aspire to that kind of.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, I think you absolutely are.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah, I knew you were. But there's elements, you know, Come on. I mean, I'm a New Yorker, so like, I also now least and I am a working woman in this field. So like, I feel like there's elements of me that I've just pulled from each of these characters at this point. But that like, core that's in me.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm so glad. Yay. Kathy's a Charlotte. We cast her well. Yeah, you're a mini Charlotte. You're. You're mama's girl. You are. You're sometimes trying to pretend like you aren't, but you really are.

[Kathy Ng]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay, good. This is going to conclude the first half.

[Kathy Ng]

Oh goodness. We barely made it the first half.

[Kristin Davis]

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[Kathy Ng]

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