SARAH JESSICA PARKER IS BACK!

Summary

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Are You A Charlotte?

Host: Kristin Davis | Guest: Sarah Jessica Parker
Episode: SARAH JESSICA PARKER IS BACK!
Date: May 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this heartwarming and dynamic episode, Kristin Davis welcomes her longtime friend and Sex and the City co-star, Sarah Jessica Parker, to reminisce about their time on the iconic show. Together, they weave personal memories, behind-the-scenes revelations, and reflections on the legacy of Sex and the City. Touching on everything from their collaborative evolution as producers and actors, to the emotional impact of iconic episodes like "My Motherboard, Myself," this conversation dives into the unique creative environment at HBO, the inner workings of their friendships, and how their shared experiences shaped both the show and themselves.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Reunion & Reflections on Legacy

• Initial Emotions ([03:36])

  • Kristin expresses pure gratitude for having the show as an anchor for their lifelong friendship:

    “Thank God we have this, so that I can see her face to face. It is wonderful.”

  • Both marvel at the enduring brilliance and emotional depth of the series.

    Kristin: “I cannot believe that we made the show that we made.” ([04:10])

• Untold Stories & Season Highlights ([03:41–06:23])

  • Kristin mentions being immersed in Seasons 3 and 4, describing “unbelievable brilliance.”
  • Special mention of the episode “My Motherboard, Myself” and its origins as writers Julie and Elisa’s first job.
  • Sarah Jessica admits to not recalling details purposefully, sharing how unfamiliar tech themes required new learning:

    “A large number of us didn't even know what a motherboard was… But also Techserve featured prominently, which is gone, which is so sad.” ([04:26])

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2. Creative Risk and HBO’s Unique Environment

• The Risk-Taking Atmosphere at HBO ([06:23–08:34])
  • Kristin and SJP praise HBO’s willingness to follow creative instincts over industry trends:

    “HBO… didn't care about reference. They were just doing what they wanted to do.” — SJP ([07:44])

  • There’s nostalgia for an era when TV-making was “almost reckless in its decadence.”
  • Both note the lack of cynicism at the time and how it enabled genuine, innovative storytelling.

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3. Sarah Jessica’s Journey to Producer

• From Consultant to Co-Executive Producer ([08:34–14:13])
  • Kristin points out the gradual shift in SJP’s credits, asking about her hands-on involvement.
  • SJP recalls Darren Star insisting she could (and should) be a producer from their first meeting:

    “He said, ‘How long have you been on sets? ... You know how to produce. You just weren't paying attention.’” ([09:21])

  • SJP at first hesitated, not wanting authority without merit, and began as a consultant to learn the ropes.

    “I felt ill equipped and I didn’t want to walk on a set in a position of authority…without the street cred.” ([10:00])

  • Discovers producing is primarily about people, not just budgets:

    “Producing is people, people, people…You can learn budget…but how you handle that information is far more important than balancing the checkbook.” ([11:44])

  • As Michael Patrick King took over in Season 2, their partnership deepened:

    “I think we felt we needed each other. And therefore my work as a producer became more important because our collaboration felt so necessary.” ([12:29])

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4. The Collaborative Set & Navigating Innovation

• Early Filming Memories & Creative Dialogue ([14:29–19:17])

  • Kristin recounts filming a tricky pilot scene talking to the camera and praises SJP’s ability to diplomatically challenge creative choices.
  • SJP explains her discomfort with breaking the fourth wall, feeling it detracted from the intimacy of friendships central to the show:

    “It’s extremely hard to do well…if the thrust of our show…were these kinds of intimacies and conversation and…friendships…then I think it’s hurting what you’re really trying to do.” — SJP ([18:00])

• Openness, Growth, and Calm Assertiveness

  • Kristin: “I loved the way that you spoke to him from a place of, like, calm power…You were just very calm and talking to him.”
  • SJP credits Darren Star’s encouragement for nurturing her confidence to speak up.

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5. “My Motherboard, Myself” and Honoring Grief Onscreen

• Groundbreaking Storylines & Young Writers ([24:45–28:25])
  • Kristin becomes emotional describing the episode’s impact on her:

    "It floored me and I cried my makeup off. Wow, it is so good…about loss and we’re little babies." ([25:53])

  • Hearing from writers Julie and Elisa reinforces the open, supportive writers’ room:

    “They had to sleep on their friend’s floor like they were little kids…but they were also so adorably grounded in themselves.” ([27:00])

  • Amy B. Harris is highlighted as a foundational presence, with Kristin reminiscing about her trajectory from assistant to showrunner.

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6. On-Set Camaraderie and Emotional Resonance

• Behind the Scenes and Crew Bonds ([28:25–32:41])
  • SJP remembers the joy, joking, and “youthful energy” from all ages on set:

    “There was a real kind of youthful energy…from people from all ages, though…that includes cast, crew and everybody in between.” ([30:43])

  • Kristin brings up nostalgic photos and fondly remembers crew members who helped shape the atmosphere and success of the show.

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7. Seasons 3 & 4: Blurring Life, Success, and Memory

• Production Intensity and Awards Season ([33:00–36:59])
  • Kristin recalls shooting 18 episodes each for seasons three and four, leading to conflated memories and year-round work.
  • They explore first experiences with Emmys and share the anxiety around industry recognition:

    “I didn’t even know about this stuff three years ago…if anyone ever asked me about a campaign—it’s like, please don’t ask me about a campaign…I don’t want to know about it.” — SJP ([36:58])

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8. Awards Night Anecdotes & Hollywood Surreality

• Awards Ceremonies and Dress Stories ([44:35–49:56])

  • The shifting context around the Emmys after 9/11 and the Iraq War.
  • Kristin and SJP recount the story of both wearing Richard Tyler dresses to the Golden Globes, running into a woman with the same dress, and the excitement of winning.
  • Moments of support from industry peers, particularly Julianne Moore’s enthusiastic applause.

• SJP’s Signature Fragrance Adventures

  • Kristin remembers entering a boutique and recognizing SJP’s signature fragrance before she ever had a brand:

    “I thought you were literally in the store. I was like, is Sarah Jessica in the back? And they were like, no, no, no. She just returned the dress.” ([49:40])

  • They discuss the evolution of SJP’s fragrance line and her latest releases:

    “It’s our 21st year. Lovely is 21 years old, almost. … At this point, great, great, great, great, grandchild.” ([52:18])

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9. Final Reflections on Producing & Crew Leadership

• Leadership and Care for Crew ([52:43–end])
  • Kristin admires SJP’s strength managing complex logistics and caring for cast and crew.

    "You stepped into it with such grace and the way that you were able to combine caring for the crew with the choices...I would just be like, oh my God, she's so strong. Oh my God, how are we all going to do it?" ([52:43])

  • The episode closes with both feeling grateful for the show’s unique collaborative magic and vowing to continue their conversation soon.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On working with HBO:

  “What was unique was that HBO...didn't care about reference. They were just doing what they wanted to do.” — Sarah Jessica Parker ([07:44])

• On learning to produce:

  “Producing is people, people, people…How you handle that information is far more important than balancing the checkbook.” — Sarah Jessica Parker ([11:44])

• On creative collaboration:

  “There was nothing more important, if you think about our trajectory... the necessity of these friendships.” — Sarah Jessica Parker ([18:00])

• On remembering the early days:

  “There was a real kind of youthful energy…from people from all ages, though…that includes cast, crew and everybody in between.” — Sarah Jessica Parker ([30:43])

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 03:36 — Sarah Jessica Parker’s introduction & reunion
• 04:26 — Remembering “My Motherboard, Myself”
• 07:44 — HBO’s creative culture
• 09:21 — SJP’s producing origin story
• 14:29 — Pilot memories & talking to the camera
• 18:00 — Rejecting the fourth wall device
• 25:53 — Kristin cries over “My Motherboard, Myself”
• 30:43 — On-set camaraderie & youthful spirit
• 33:00 — The overwhelming blur of success
• 36:58 — SJP’s attitude toward awards and nominations
• 44:35 — Awards show stories, matching dresses, and red-carpet gaffes
• 49:40 — SJP’s fragrance signature and new releases
• 52:43 — Kristin praises SJP’s crew leadership

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Summary Tone & Spirit

The episode is full of warmth, laughter, and honesty—a nostalgic yet clear-eyed conversation between two beloved friends who navigated trailblazing television together. Kristin’s infectious enthusiasm is matched by Sarah Jessica’s thoughtful, introspective candor. Together, they offer a rare glimpse into the emotional and professional complexities that turned Sex and the City into an enduring touchstone—and reveal how, behind the glamour, was a team fueled by genuine connection and collaboration.

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Transcript

[Kristin Davis]

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Are you shooting now?

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. This is how it goes. Oh, wow. There's no action.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

There's not even an action.

[Kristin Davis]

I know.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's magic. It's just nice. It's a soothe kind entry. Yeah, it's very nice. It's very Kristen.

[Kristin Davis]

If you can't tell by her voice. Sarah Jessica is here.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I'm here.

[Kristin Davis]

I know you can tell. It is a joy. As I told her when she walked in, thank God we have this so that I can see her face to face. It is wonderful. And I have been. I literally have so many things to talk to you about that I don't even know where to begin because I have been fully steeped in season three and season four, which I know that you don't watch, but I need to represent to you the unbelievable brilliance. And I'm not. I'm not. I'm not kidding.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It is.

[Kristin Davis]

I cannot believe that we made the show that we made.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Wow.

[Kristin Davis]

That's how I feel.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Wow.

[Kristin Davis]

It floors me, really. I had Julie and Elisa on yesterday because we got to my motherboard myself, which was their first episode, their first TV job.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I mean, to think now, as you've already stated, and I can just emphasize again how little I recall, which at this point might be purposeful. But I do recall a lot about my motherboard myself because I think a large number of us didn't even know what a motherboard was 100%. And so there was that. Which was just understanding Motherboard.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But also techserve.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Featured prominently, which is gone, which is so sad. And that was the episode. Is that Cynthia's mother? Yes. Yeah. Wow.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah. I can't believe that was their freshman script real. Yeah. It was such a, you know, such a declaration of, you know, here we are.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

We're hugely talented. And they just had. It felt so right that they had been given that script.

[Kristin Davis]

So smart about that. We talked through that process a little bit, like, how did they come. He had had it on the whiteboard as Miranda's mother will die, which was a huge departure for us. We had not at that point, done anything familial, really. Right. And as Asif, who came earlier today, was saying, the whole episode is about grief.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Because you lose your writing, which is your identity, you know, to a huge extent. And also a little bit earlier in the season in my mind, and Michael Patrick's coming next week, and he told me, I know, I can't wait.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

In Los Angeles.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, how great. I can't wait. I saw him when he got honored for the Human Rights Council, whatever it is. It was amazing. Like, just the, you know, he put a clip together. It was so incredible. And of course I cried. And I was, you know, I might cry again, but it's just so incredible to have been part of all of it, you know.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And just doing things because we wanted to do them.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I know.

[Kristin Davis]

Not really realizing the history and the repercussions and the connectedness and the.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And the chatter and the peripheral feelings. I think that wasn't a singularly unique time, but relative to the ways in which we live now and experience and absorb culture, it was. It feels like it was, you know, almost like a newborn baby. There was so little cynicism about work and, you know, reception and I think so. You know, lots of television shows had come and gone. Great shows, lesser successful. Meaning shows had success, they had disappointment, they failed. They were monumental and consequential. But I think what was unique was that hbo, to your point, didn't care about reference. They were just doing what they wanted to do. So if there was any reason to be rational about choices, well, don't do that, because this show didn't have luck when they did that, or there was a really strong reaction, or there was controversy. That just wasn't the way they made decisions. And that kind of ego filtered down to the shows, which was, if you could afford it, for the most part, go ahead and do it. Amazing. Like, if you can fit that inside our budget. Every now and then you had to beg for rain, you know. Yeah. But I think that was just a massive advantage of the times in which we lived.

[Kristin Davis]

Absolutely.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And that time at hbo. Absolutely. It was new enough to be almost reckless in its. There was, like, a decadence to making television. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And, like, it's hard to even really fathom the differences now, which, you know, I don't even. That would be a different podcast. But I'm so happy that we were able to create in that. But I also feel like the choices that were made, and you were a huge part of that. And I wanted to talk A little bit about that. Because one thing that I do notice, and I was aware of this at the time, but not for fully. Right. Because I was just in it and trying to do the best I could do and trying to wear the shoes, blah, blah, blah, you know, trying to stay awake when I had to or whatever. Your credit, you know, is at the point where it's changing, right? Like now we're co executive producer. And originally it was consultant, correct? How what was that like? And what was your thinking about being part of the decisions?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So when I met a initially with Darren in 96. 97, right. Cause we shot the pilot in 97, correct?

[Kristin Davis]

I think so. And it was on in 98.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes. So I met with him and we met at Eli's, I think that version of Zabar's on the Upper east side on Madison, which was a very. And continues to be a very fancy. Yes, but maybe, some might argue, the greatest egg salad in New York City. And I was very happy to meet him there, understanding that typically that lunch is gonna be paid for, you know, if you're invited totally. And we talked and talked about this show and this idea and this pilot. And he said to me then, and, you know, you should produce the show at that first meeting. And I said, I don't know how to produce a show. And he said, how long have you been on sets? How many years have you been on sets? And, you know, I sort of thought about a number and he said, you know, how to produce. You just weren't paying attention. You just weren't thinking I should be watching for this reason. You were simply watching. I'm putting words in his mouth, but that was the essence of the conversation. And I was, you know, hesitant because I felt ill equipped and I didn't want to walk on a set in a position of authority, entitled, or any reason without feeling like I had the street cred. And he said, why don't you just be a consultant the first year? Just be a consultant, go to meetings, listen and learn. Which was so wise and such good counsel and also just, I think, enormously generous because it did in many ways offer me a second career. Like, it paralleled the work of my life as an actor, but it allowed me to learn something else, which I think is invaluable, whether or not I chose to do anything with it. But what I discovered is I love producing. And I thought producing was really also just simply about math, which I had, you know, basically failed. Like, as a student, I tested very poorly in math. I panicked over Math. Math tests very poorly on my PSATs, as if I'd never entered a classroom in my life. That's how I tested.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And of course, what I came to learn also is that producing is people. It's people, People, people, people, people. And you can learn budget, you can learn union laws, you can learn overtime golden time, you can learn wages. But how you handle that information is far more important than balancing the checkbook, in a way, if you're a responsible person, anyway.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Does that make sense?

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, very much so. So I didn't know any of this. This is super, super fascinating. So in the beginning, the consultant was something that was Darren's idea. And you were kind of like, okay, I don't wanna overstep my bounds, or. But then as time went on, how did it become a larger and larger part?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I think what happened is when Michael took over season two. Correct. Yeah. Yeah. There's always, like, this mystery. Do we make that up? And he and I just had a kind of affinity for one another. And I think because he was assuming a really important critical role and I was kind of changing the way I was interpreting my job outside of acting. We sort of. There was a kind of alignment. And I think we felt we needed each other. And therefore my work as a producer became more important because our collaboration felt so necessary and important. And I think he was looking for someone to talk about ideas and feelings and scripts and pictures and colors. And I was looking to learn more about his work and how I could be a good and helpful partner and co producer or whatever I was called at that point. And so I think the more you listen and learn and the more you're able to be a good collaborator and hear people who've done it longer know more, the better partner you are.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And so I think that season two, we just started understanding our roles more clearly, if that makes sense.

[Kristin Davis]

It totally does.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And you're just much more invested. The more responsibility you have to people, to a company, to a partnership, the more important those choices in those conversations become.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. The thing for me that's interesting in terms of observing it. Right. I think I've talked about this before. I don't know if I've talked to you about it, but I remember so clearly the pilot. I don't know if you remember this. When we go to the Chinese restaurant, it was like our first group scene, basically.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I do remember that.

[Kristin Davis]

And this is when you still had to talk to the camera.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

And it was super stressful. And it was very strange. Cause you had to take yourself out of the scene and talk to a mystery person in the camera. But yet you were talking to yourself. And I'm sitting there and I'm just all like, whoa. You know, that's my general feeling at all times. And obviously very nervous also, usually. And I remember a conversation that you had with Darren about the talking to the camera, and I thought you were completely right on, because I knew as an actor, how would I even do that? It's a very strange thing.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's hard for me. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

And we've talked about that before. But what I remember being so impactful for me was how you spoke to Darren because you, you know, he was in charge, and I had only ever known him in the other world, network world of Melrose and whatnot. And it's not like he was, you know, autocrat or anything, but he was like, I want you to do this. Let's try this, you know, whatever. And you were just very calm and talking to him. You were. You were so calm, but you were very clear in a way that I hadn't really seen other actors do at that point. Because I had not been like, our. Our creation was different, you know, it was different from the beginning. Right. And you had a back and forth with him. And I was like, yes, she's right. She's right. Because it was wacky, you know, when he was asking. And sometimes Darren would just have an idea, you know, like, which is good

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

and welcome, of course.

[Kristin Davis]

Of course. But sometimes it would be strange. Like, I remember one time later on, maybe in season one, you're looking through a window at shoes, and suddenly, like, basically an emoji appears on the screen.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Is that right?

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. And you're just like, wait, what's happening? And do you remember how they used to do, like, split when we were on the phone or whatever?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

And then they'd move like Brady Bunch.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes. She's like, wait, what is happening? Yes. I forgot about that.

[Kristin Davis]

It was him trying stuff out.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

There's nothing wrong with that. But it's also like, you're just like, wait, wait, what? What's going on? Are, like, sparkly stars going to show up next? Like, what is happening? Which brings me to one thing I'm gonna ask about in a second. But the thing that I love and that really, the reason that I still think about it is that I loved the way that you spoke to him from a place of, like, calm. Power. Not power, power of, like, it will be my way. And he wasn't saying that to you. Either it was, I'm in my skin and this is how it feels. And this is what I'm worried about. I'm worried that it's taking me away from the group scene, which is really important, and from the instincts, there was nothing more important. If you think about our trajectory. Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah. I think that if he had not in our initial meeting, if he'd not been so hospitable to me just in general, but also the ways in which he felt like I could and should do this part, I probably would not have had the courage to share with him when something didn't feel good. And I think in particular, the talking to the camera for me felt really problematic because I think, as I said at the time, it's extremely hard to do well. And as you know, I've repeated, my husband did it in a movie and he did it extremely well. And it felt like a kind of device that suited that movie so perfectly. And I don't have to go into all that. But if the thrust of our show as I understood it at that time were these kinds of intimacies and conversation and the necessity of these friendships and the fact that it was a column, if the human exchange weren't so important, and maybe if we were a three camera show, you could have felt a kind of buoyancy around that, that would be funny. And maybe the audience could start getting involved with it and you could like, almost like score it with music and like you could do a whole thing with it. But to be a single camera show at that point, darkly lit, like cinematic, it felt like the Sesame street, like one of these things is not like the other. It didn't. So I think my argument at the time was I think it's hurting what you're really trying to do, which is the thing that matters most to you. And I don't think I'm doing it well, which is also problematic. And it's not gonna be good. I think it's gonna hurt the show. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

And you were 100% right, in my opinion. But what I loved about it was that you, you were fully invested from the get go. And I don't think you know another way to be. Right. I only barely met you that day, you know what I mean? But like, that's just who you are, which is a beautiful thing. And what also I feel like as time went on and your title grew and basically what you're saying is that Darren kind of planted the seed and then you and Michael had this kind of meeting of the minds and Souls, Right? And it flowed from that. Okay, let's talk about the ultimate main character moment. You know the feeling. You wake up, the light is hitting your living room just right. And instead of rushing out the door, fighting traffic and battling for a parking spot at a crowded studio, you just transition from sleep mode to me mode without even leaving your sanctuary. This is the magic of your Reformer. I just got one of these, you guys, and it is so beautiful. And I put it in my bedroom where the kids aren't there so that I can just literally do it whenever I'm getting ready. I can just take 10, 20 minutes, get a little workout in. It's amazing. And every Reformer purchase includes access to your Reformer app, which has over 1,000 instructor led on demand workouts. You get your first three months free on the app. And you can start with confidence, expert instruction, and all the tools and accessories you need to progress at your own pace. Oh, and did I mention it's a gorgeous piece of furniture as well. It really is. You guys not quite ready to invest. You can actually rent your Reformer for your home for only $39 a week. That is less than the average cost of a studio class your Reformer delivers to your home within seven days across the mainland USA. Visit YourReformer.com Use the code Are you a Charlotte 200? To receive $200 off your purchase, your space, your pace, your Reformer. I am obsessed with Hill House Home, the brand behind the viral nap dress with the signature smocking that's incredibly flattering, unbelievably comfortable and so versatile. I can wear the same one running errands by day and out to dinner at night. I just got one the other day from them. It's pink, it's flowy. I love it so much. You could just put on some flip flops, whatever you want and you look great and you're totally happy and comfortable. Hill House makes fun fashion that makes you feel good. Which is why celebrities like Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo and Anne Hathaway and I bet Charlotte York would love it too. Get 15 off your first order of a hundred dollars or more at hillhouse home.com with the code Charlotte15again. That's Charlotte15 for 15% off at hillhousehome.com look, if we're talking self care face masks and spa days, those are non negotiables. But you know what else shouldn't be overlooked?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

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[Kristin Davis]

I was thinking about this too as I'm watching in my mind what I think I had done. Cause I watch these shows as though I have never seen them lately. Like, I'm just like, I don't remember that. Oh my God, if I'll ever have

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

the courage to do that, I hope

[Kristin Davis]

and I pray that you will. Like, I'm so happy that you never get sick and I don't want you to ever get sick. But let's say sometime you pick up a virus or whatever and you never know.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Do you know what I mean? Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

This would be an excellent way to feel better, I think because having the distance now that we Have. Because I always watched it right away when we got it because it was so exciting. Right. And remember we used to get the VHS and they weren't always complete. Like, there might be a card or a slide, camp music or whatever. You know what I mean? Right. So now. And I thought I knew a lot, and I do in some ways, but, like, I was trying to get ready to come here yesterday and I was doing my makeup while I was watching my motherboard myself and. And Sarah Jessica. It floored me and I cried my makeup off. Wow, it is so good. Oh, it is so, like, beautifully crafted and created and acted and all of the things. But also it's about loss and we're little babies.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

We don't really know, but yet it's present.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And that made me just so moved, you know?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, it's hard, but it's also great. Do you know what I'm saying? And I kind of just don't know how we did it. I mean, it's just this miracle that everyone came together and was able to create a situation which I think you and Michael, through your partnership, it bled down, right. That everyone was included, you know, like in the storytelling. Like Julie and Elisa, who were so young, could just walk in and write that script.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I can't believe it. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

And that was my mom.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

What were their memories? Or do you not want to spend time talking about that?

[Kristin Davis]

No, no, their memories are great. Because. What? Their memory, they're so adorable and funny

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

and how old were they?

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, I should have asked them because I didn't ask them.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

In their twenties. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Really young. And they had been go out in LA meeting. They had a pilot and their agent told them to go meet Darren Starr the next morning. They were like, no, sorry, we've got a flight. And he was like, you're going to change your flight and you might have to sleep on someone's floor.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

So they had to sleep on their friend's floor like they were little kids, do you know what I mean? But they're also so adorably grounded in themselves that they were like, no, you know what I mean? Of course. And then Darren. And then they came to the writers room and then Michael did his magic of, you know, like, cultivating them and giving them the confidence. But also they told me a funny story that he would pop his head in their office door and be like, you're fired. Just to keep everyone on their toes. You know what I mean?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And they had the office at Silver Cup. I remember their offices. I Think they were upstairs above Michael. Yes, above the floor where we would do second mezzanine. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

The weird floor that sometimes you'd get off and you'd be like, wait, where am I?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, it was. They were totally up there.

[Kristin Davis]

Right. And they also talked a lot about Jenny and Cindy and the kind of female bond and that they were there first and they were kind of senior to them and really helped them. And it's so beautiful to hear about. It's incredible. And soon we'll have Amy B. Harris and we'll have Liz Ticillo. We're getting to them.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, great.

[Kristin Davis]

It's so much to think back on and just like.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah. And Amy will be super interesting because she was there really from the beginning. You know, I don't think I'll say

[Kristin Davis]

this to her, but I remember her carrying Darren's suitcase.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, yeah. She was his assistant.

[Kristin Davis]

She was like, it's amazing.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It is amazing.

[Kristin Davis]

Perfect trajectory.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, it's really. And now she's a showrunner.

[Kristin Davis]

And impressive in so many ways.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

One of the things, you know, you talk about, you know, a kind of. When you talk about the work being good, which is so nice to hear. I remember the church. Yes. I remember, obviously, techserv. I remember wrapping the computer in a scarf or something.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes. A pashmina.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

At pashmina, I think, is Becky Ann Baker in that episode.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

She's the sister.

[Kristin Davis]

It's the first time we see her.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes. So, you know, and I think we've discussed this before, but it bears repeating. It's not as if it was, you know, completely free of any complexity, but it was so happy. Like, I think of being in that church for countless hours and all the background players that were there all day long and just the kind of working environment. It was funny and fun and the crew was always laughing and working the hardest of everybody, you know.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And big equipment in those days. Bigger.

[Kristin Davis]

Those big. Huge lights rolling around.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Big cameras with film and real film and loading magazines of film and carting them from far away to a shoot, you know, to a location that we couldn't have the trucks nearby. And just the kind of collegiality, the kind of fraternity and sorority that surrounded it, I think helped a huge amount because. And it's not that great work can't happen when people are unhappy. And there's lots of examples of that, too. But I prefer the former, of course, you know, so part of me isn't even surprised that you're experiencing it that way, because we liked doing it.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Like we really loved the table reads.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You know, if something didn't feel right, we tried to talk about it and see if we could adjust it.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Make it feel more right or more correct, and then be told the reasons that we're wrong, you know, which I tend to believe, you know, but there was a real kind of youthful energy.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I don't mean that spiritually even. I mean, like sincerely.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

From people from all ages, though. You know, youthful energy from 60 year olds to 20 year olds, you know. And that includes cast, crew and everybody in between.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, yes, for sure. I mean, there's so many things that I think of when I'm watching it and because I talk about it and my phone algorithm shows me things. I saw this adorable picture and I was gonna try to print it out, but I forgot, you know, the white dress? When you break up with Big in front of the Plaza and you say your girl is. Yes. Beautiful, there's a great behind the scenes picture where you're standing kind of in the forefront. I'm sure it's the paparazzi, whatever. But less then, obviously then now. But Collins, Joe Collins is in the background when he was focus pulling.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Wearing like a straw hat.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, he will. He wore that hat all the time.

[Kristin Davis]

You remember shorts and like. Like a wife beater because it was like 100 degrees.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah. Super handsome.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God, so handsome. And I just remember how they got us through the day.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, they're amazing. The kember department was beyond. Was so superior. Right. Like, they were incredible. And everybody, you know, matriculated up. Everybody.

[Kristin Davis]

How well they showed. I know. Did I ever tell you that I had the crazy, like, fantasy when we came back to doing Just like that, that they were going to be there?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Sure. I understand that. Yeah. I know that feeling.

[Kristin Davis]

They have huge titles now. I know. And we got a wonderful crew and stuff.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Amazing.

[Kristin Davis]

But, like, it is so interesting to

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

think of, like that John McDonald.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God. Incredible.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Rest in peace.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Joe Dali. Jolly Flatmanry.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Like, every single person.

[Kristin Davis]

Mike Camera. Incredible.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Finnerty.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Your man. Who was he? He always called his wife the bride. Our big gaffer. Our big. He moved all the sets. Bobby Lowry.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, Lowry. Do you remember Bobby, my driver?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Of course. Of course, Bobby. Because then Bobby started driving me. Yes. When Super Dave. Oh, yeah. Super Dave.

[Kristin Davis]

I love it so much. Okay, wait, we could go off on so many tangents. But one of the things I wanted to tell you, which was really highly, highly enjoyable because as I said in my mind and Michael Patrick Tells me that he's going to be able to fix this when he comes. But in my mind, I have no memory of season four. And I now realize.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

What's season four?

[Kristin Davis]

Season four. So much happens, Sarah Jessica. I mean, it's insane. But in my mind what I think happened because we shot 18 episodes season three and 18 episodes season four.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Did we really?

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. Can you believe that?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Wow. Yeah. Can you believe that? Wow.

[Kristin Davis]

And that is also when we started getting nominated for things. So it became a year round situation. Got it. Which is what I remember. Which of course I was thrilled. Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

But also, like, what do I wear? What do I take? Like chicken with my head cut off. Right. But in my mind, I think I conflated them into one because a lot of the storylines, it's when we really invest in the long term storylines.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Got it, got it.

[Kristin Davis]

You know, we double down on it. Right. And we become more brave in terms of like my motherboard myself. Grief has suddenly entered the picture. You know, not just a breakup, but actual death.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

These kind of life altering milestone events.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly. Like we're really in my mind, like understanding that we can do those things and trying them, you know, and succeeding so beautifully. Which is amazing.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

But it's. I think part of the reason I don't remember it is because it was personally so kind of overwhelming. Right. Like the success. Do you remember when we first got nominated for an Emmy?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I could pretend I have more detailed memories. Here's what I do remember about all of it, or awards, is that Amy Harris always knew everything.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Like Amy Harris was, you know, somehow from New York City, embedded in trade information.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And she always came to me the night before nominations and I was always like, oh, Amy, I didn't know about this. Why did you tell me? I don't wanna know about this thing. I would say I didn't care because it could potentially be too painful to care. And if we'd been not considered previously, we were just fine. Meaning not like we're just fine, meaning like, well, we were fine.

[Kristin Davis]

I didn't expect it.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

No. And I think there was kind of a rub that, you know, we were these out of towners, we weren't really part of a television industry.

[Kristin Davis]

That we weren't playing the game.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah. Or that we just hadn't kind of like been part of a courtship that's more traditional. And even if that hurts your feelings for a minute, I don't think it, you know, kind of was long term damage. So it was better to stay distant and circumspect Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I think that's a really healthy attitude.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah. I think that's like just the only way to survive and not feel crappy. If your industry says, right, we're not considering you people, of course, in New York City and there were so many other wonderful things about being part of our show that, you know, we're real sustenance. So if it hurts for a minute, that's all. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Right, Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

If you break something that's like, super important to you or lose something, my way out of it typically is. And I'm not talking about people losing people. I'm talking about, like a thing, like a nomination or. But in this case, you know, an important necklace. I would tell my. I just tell myself I didn't know about that thing four weeks ago or two, three years ago. It wasn't in my life. Right. I didn't need it, Want it, count on it, look at it, hold it, wear it, smell it.

[Kristin Davis]

Totally. Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So a nomination. I sort of felt the same way. If I felt that there was disappointment that Michael was disappointed or anybody else, I would feel it. But then I think, I didn't even know about this stuff three years ago or I didn't know about this stuff 48 hours ago before Amy Harris told me nominations are coming out.

[Kristin Davis]

Definitely.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And if anyone ever asked me about a campaign, it's like, please don't ask me about a campaign. Please don't show me pictures for a campaign. I don't want to know about it. For all I know, we're not going to get anything. So that's healthy. Do it on your own if you want to do it.

[Kristin Davis]

But also, it didn't actually, and I think this is important to even say now in the way that the world operates, it doesn't actually affect the work that we were doing one way or the other.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

It's not like, because we won an Emmy, which we did. Which we never thought we would do.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

We did.

[Kristin Davis]

The show won an Emmyc that first year.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

No. Oh, oh, but no, but you. I thought you meant the first year.

[Kristin Davis]

She's proving her point that she doesn't even know. It is adorable.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

No.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Let me just clarify that. The first year we were nominated, we did not win.

[Kristin Davis]

I am slightly unclear. So this is what.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

We went to the United States when I was pregnant.

[Kristin Davis]

And you won previous to the show being nominated and then the show. I think you were not there because it was the semi Emmys. Cause it was 2001.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Got it.

[Kristin Davis]

Kim and I were there alone.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

No, wait, what year in 2001 was it? What part of the summer it would

[Kristin Davis]

be the semi Emmys because I had

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

to push it because I was pregnant and I couldn't travel for one. And I think you won't.

[Kristin Davis]

It wasn't that one.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Okay, sorry.

[Kristin Davis]

It wasn't that one. It wasn't that one. So remember 911 happened, which we're gonna discuss the show's reaction and whatnot. And then we were supposed to have the Emmys like right after. I remember that I had had a photo shoot on September 10th, so I'd pushed my flight to September 11th.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes, I remember. Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

And I had two vintage Orve lager original bandage dresses in my suitcase that I was supposed to decide between for the Emmys.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Were you gonna check that luggage?

[Kristin Davis]

It was checked. It was checked because I was going home after the season. Right. So I had a lot of stuff. I had my golden retriever, Cali.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right?

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. So we were all on that plane. I got Callie out of the underneath. Couldn't get the bags. I was really stressed about those original dresses. Later, obviously not on the day. Did eventually get them back, thank God. And no one was upset with me, which was really nice. You know that fantasy version of your life, the one where you wake up and the light's hitting just right and you do a 20 minute workout in your gorgeous living room and you feel like the lead in your own movie? Yeah. That's not a fantasy anymore. You can get your own reformer. I just got one and it is so beautiful and I just love it so much. And it's just right there. It makes it so easy. And you can say hello to your reformer. It basically worked out my workout problem. I was paying for studio classes and I'd cancel half the time. The parking, the scheduling. Then I saw Euroformer and my first thought wasn't even about working out. It was, wow, that's beautiful. What a beautiful piece of gorgeous furniture. And it really is, you guys. Every Reformer comes with access to over 1000 instructor led workouts on the your reformer app, including all the tools and accessories. Your first three months on the app are free and you've got expert LED classes. Whether you're a day one beginner or a post work decompressor, they deliver across mainland USA within seven days. Just go to your reformer dot com. Hey, you, reformer. Thanks for working out my workout problem. Use the code. Are youasharlotte200 for $200 off your [e-mail]. your space, your pace, your Reformer. I have to tell you guys about Hill House Home. The brand behind the viral nap dress. The one with the signature smocking is both flattering and comfortable. What I love about Hill House dresses is how versatile they are. I just got the scarlet midi nap dress and I can wear it running errands during the day and at dinner or a party that night. I no outfit change required. And it's not just dresses. Hill House started with bedding in 2016 and their robes and pajamas are so soft. Made from the same cotton fabric as their baby onesies. They also have the cutest styles for women, babies and kids, including monogrammable robes, onesies and pajamas that make the perfect gift. I love my pink dress that I just got the other day from them. It's so comfortable I can wear it around the house and then I can run errands, I can go to lunch. It's I it's a dream. Hill House makes fun fashion that makes you feel good, which explains why celebrities like Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo and Anne Hathaway have been spotted wearing it. Honestly, Charlotte York would be all over this. Get 15% off your first order of a hundred dollars or [e-mail] with the code Charlotte15. Again, that's Charlotte15 for 15% [e-mail] look, if we're talking self care face masks and spa days, those are non negotiables. But you know what else shouldn't be overlooked?

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[Matt Rogers]

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[Kristin Davis]

So then, because of the war in Iraq, we had pushed the Emmys back.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

And some people felt we shouldn't even have them at all.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I remember some controversy around that.

[Kristin Davis]

And I wore a short dress.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Did you?

[Kristin Davis]

That's why I call it the semi Emmys. I was like, it feels weird to get in the midst of totally glam. And what I do kind of somewhat understand now is that, you know, that is enjoyment for people. People enjoy us getting dressed, going, trying to celebrate, just fun things.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, right. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

So. But at the time, I don't. I don't know that we felt that. And we were all still just trying to recover our bearings.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

You know, from the situation. But that's why you don't remember that one.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Because only you and Kim went correct. Got it.

[Kristin Davis]

Alone. We're alone in our short.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Was Michael Patrick there?

[Kristin Davis]

I don't think so. He's not in the pictures. I have to ask him when I see him.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And that. And we won.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes. The show won an Emmy for writing for the whole show. They give an award for the whole show. Sarah, you're making me so happy right now. Cause you're adorable.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Everyone's feigning this. I really don't.

[Kristin Davis]

No, I know. I know everyone. She's not feigning this. Okay. This. Okay, we're just gonna show you pictures now because this is how you're gonna remember. This is the year 2000 when you won a Golden Globe.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I remember that dress.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes. Do you remember who made it?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Richard Tyler. Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

Do you wanna know why I remember that?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Were you with me? No.

[Kristin Davis]

I also wore Richard Tyler.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Do we both.

[Kristin Davis]

We both wore Richard Tyler.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Coordinated.

[Kristin Davis]

I know. I don't think I knew you were wearing Richard Tyler, though. I think you told me to look up Richard Tyler. Cause he was in la, right?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, that's right. He was in both New York and Los Angeles. That's right. That's right. And he was on Melrose. Yes, yes. He had a shop on Melrose.

[Kristin Davis]

I think about it every time I drive by. Obviously, it's not there anymore. And I had not had a stylist at that point. Didn't really.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I don't know if I had a stylist at that point.

[Kristin Davis]

I feel like you might have had Loren, but I'm not sure. Maybe not yet.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I don't think so.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay, got it.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I don't think so. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

So I went over there to the shop. In the window of the shop was a beautiful red dress on the mannequin. And I was like, could I just wear that? And they were like, someone else could be wearing it. I was like, who cares?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You know, I never cared about that. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

And also, like, I didn't really understand what the Golden Globes was like, fundamentally. Right. So I was just like, I don't know. So I wear this red dress. I do, in fact, run into a woman wearing the identical dress at the Golden Globes. She was very nice about it. She was possibly an executive's wife or something. You know what I'm saying?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Because she just went to women with taste.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. Yeah, definitely. But, you know, it was there to buy. Right. And I loved it. But it rained that day and my hair's all frizzy.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Wow.

[Kristin Davis]

And like, the. I don't have the group picture of us, but Michael's got the curls. Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Jim Croce. Yes, I used to call him Jim Croce.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my gosh. So good. And I remember when we. Because. Remember how the film people would be at the lower level at the Hilton that we would. Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, you're reminding me. Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

Do you remember? And we could watch.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Exactly.

[Kristin Davis]

If we had a good view.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right. Everyone moving on.

[Kristin Davis]

We were.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

If the stage was in front of us, I think we were back on the right. Yes, we were back on the right. Like, audience. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

That was our. Our spot.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

They would give us our spot almost every year. It was fun times. But then when they called our name and we're just like. And we have to get up. We have to make it all the way down there.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right. Wonder why they voted for us. They love us, Jessica. Yeah, they Were really nice.

[Kristin Davis]

We just saw that lady when you got your.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Your. She's so lovely.

[Kristin Davis]

Right? Like, they're our biggest fans. It was incredible. It was incredible. And I remember having to go all the way down and us being like, we go.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

We won. Oh, my God.

[Kristin Davis]

And our friends who spoke.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Did Darren speak?

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, Darren. And Michael Patrick's behind him with curls. And we're all just, like.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

We're all just like, what?

[Kristin Davis]

We're up here. Like, we're just like, so, like, during the headlights. And my. My biggest memory of the whole thing, other than just the shock value, was Julianne Moore is sitting down in the film section, and she is clapping. Like, it's literally the best thing that's ever happened to her. Like, she's, like, levitating off her chair. And I was like, julianne Moore knows our show.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And that was my first.

[Kristin Davis]

First kind of introduction to the warmth that can be in our business, you know, like the support and the warmth from other people that you admire. It was so nice.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That's really nice. That's a nice memory. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

So then the next day, my memories continue. The next day, I went to return the dress that I had borrowed from the window. And when I walked in, it was a pretty small store, like a pretty intimate store. I smelled your fragrance because you had been nervous and you had sprayed.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So that's. Even when I'm not nervous.

[Kristin Davis]

This is what she does. And this is before you had an

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

official fragrance, when you were mixing your own fragrances.

[Kristin Davis]

And I was like.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And I had returned the dress.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes, you had returned the dress.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Aren't we good and punctual?

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

You taught me that.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's the honor system from the library.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

If you bring the book back, you get another.

[Kristin Davis]

Exactly.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

If you bring the dress back.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

They might let you borrow another one.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You were such a decent condition with the exception of fragrance. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

It was a beautiful fragrance. I mean, the whole story. I thought you were literally in the store. I was like, is Sir Jessica in the back? And they were like, no, no, no. She just returned the dress. I was like, oh, it's her fragrance. And little did I know you were going to have this whole amazing fragrance line. And now you have another one. This is what I want to discuss.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, God. This is our. Like, this is our 14th fragrance. Is it? Oh, it's all birthed from Lovely.

[Kristin Davis]

Got it.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I mean, there have been some outside the house that don't a lot. Meaning they're not. They aren't children of Lovely. But this is the new ones are kind of. They're kind of almost standalones.

[Kristin Davis]

Ooh.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

The bottle shape is different, although there are design elements that mimic the cap of Lovely.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So they're ribbed, like the cap. The original cap of Lovely. And they have the grosgrain kind of stripe, which is a nod to my mother, which was also my shoes. So they're pieces and elements, and they're sort of triplets versus a singular fragrance. Got it.

[Kristin Davis]

Are they related to each other?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Only in packaging, not in juice.

[Kristin Davis]

Got it.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So the scents are all entirely different.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And actually there's four. I said three, but there's four. Oh, there's three. Okay. I'm not mad.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So the juices, the fragrance don't have anything to do with one another, just the packaging.

[Kristin Davis]

Got it. And when I smell them, am I going to be like, oh, yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

They're not going to feel reminiscent of Lovely.

[Kristin Davis]

Okay.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But they're great. Ooh. They're much less polite, you know, Lovely's like a very.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes. It's kind of light, polite.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Very. Like, it has extremely good manners. You know, Lovely is welcome, you know? And these are. They have. They have nice, strong personalities. They're more fun, they're more contemporary. Am I describing it well? Would you say? Yeah. Like, even the boldness of each bottle is like a bold color. Got it. The bottles are unbelievable.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, I saw a picture on the Instagram.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

They look amazing.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. That's why I wanted to hear inside

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

of those really kind of bold graph, there's, like, something really graphic. The fragrances are really bold. They're great.

[Kristin Davis]

Neat.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, they're amazing.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm so excited.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And then we have another one coming out after that. That's really good.

[Kristin Davis]

Another fragrance. Yes. Or you're a whole different thing.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

No, it's Lovely. It's another lovely child.

[Kristin Davis]

Got it. Got it.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

At this point. Great, great, great, great. Grandchild.

[Kristin Davis]

Got it. Amazing.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I think we're in, what year now?

[Kristin Davis]

Incredible.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's our 21st year.

[Kristin Davis]

That's great. I know.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's funny. Lovely is 21 years old, almost.

[Kristin Davis]

Wow. Your first child.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

Wait, how old is James?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Well, no, not my first child, but yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

It's like.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Wait, no. My first fragrance.

[Kristin Davis]

Child. I know. See, they're frozen in my mind. I can't.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I know. I do the same.

[Kristin Davis]

Actual ages.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Let's just leave them.

[Kristin Davis]

Terrifying.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right? As young toddlers.

[Kristin Davis]

Let's leave them all. Totally.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes, yes.

[Kristin Davis]

When you think about. So we were talking a little bit about the trajectory of your producing Right. Which I love. The origin of it, I didn't know origin story. And I feel like you stepped into it with such grace and the way that you were able to combine caring for the crew with the choices. I also remember that, like, in the wee hours, you know, Mel would come up to you, we'd be sitting in our chairs and he started talking to you about the next day, and I would just be like, oh, God, I don't even know if I want to listen. Do you know what I mean? But, you know, all the different details that you had to take into consideration about the call and this call and that call and your call, and, you know, you'd force your call and I would just be like, oh, my God, she's so strong. Oh, my God, how are we all going to do it? Do you know what I mean? And we did. We found a way. We found a way which was amazing. Sarah Jessica, we could talk forever, as you know. So let's take a little break here. And you guys, we will be back for another episode of Are youe a Charlotte? Okay, let's talk about the ultimate main character moment. You know the feeling. You wake up, the light is hitting your living room just right. And instead of rushing out the door, fighting traffic, and battling for a parking spot at a crowded studio, you just transition from sleep mode to me mode without even leaving your sanctuary. This is the magic of your Reformer. I just got one of these, you guys, and it is so beautiful. And I put it in my bedroom and where the kids aren't there so that I can just literally do it whenever I'm getting ready. I can just take 10, 20 minutes, get a little workout in. It's amazing. And every Reformer purchase includes access to your Reformer app, which has over 1,000 instructor led on demand workouts. You get your first three months free on the app. And you can start with confidence, expert instruction, and all the tools and accessories you need to progress at your own pace. Oh, and did I mention, it's a gorgeous piece of furniture as well. It really is. You guys not quite ready to invest. You can actually rent your Reformer for your home for only $39 a week. That is less than the average cost of a studio class your Reformer delivers to your home within seven days across the mainland USA. Visit your reformer.com use the code. Are you a Charlotte? 200 to receive $200 off your purchase, your space, your pace, your Reformer. I have to tell you guys about Hill House Home, the brand behind the viral nap dress, the one with the signature SMOCKING is both flattering and comfortable. What I love about Hill House dresses is how versatile they are. I just got the scarlet midi nap dress and I can wear it running errands during the day and at dinner or a party that night. No outfit change required. And it's not just dresses. Hill House started with bedding in 2016 and their robes and pajamas are so soft. Made from the same cotton fabric as their baby onesies. They also have the cutest styles for women, babies and kids, including monogrammable robes, onesies and pajamas that make the perfect gift. I love my pink dress that I just got the other day from them. It's so comfortable I can wear it around the house and then I can run errands, I can go to lunch. It's I it's a dream. Hill House makes fun fashion that makes you feel good, which explains why celebrities like Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo and Anne Hathaway have been spotted wearing it. Honestly, Charlotte York would be all over this. Get 15% off your first order of a hundred dollars or [e-mail] with the code Charlotte15. Again, that's Charlotte15 for 15% [e-mail] I'm

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