SNL's Rachel Dratch is Ready for a Little 'Sex'... (S2 E16 "Was It Good For You?")

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Podcast Summary: "SNL's Rachel Dratch is Ready for a Little 'Sex'..."

Are You A Charlotte? – iHeartPodcasts
Host: Kristen Davis
Guest: Rachel Dratch
Date: September 29, 2025
Episode: S2 E16 "Was It Good For You?"

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Episode Overview

In this reflective and laughter-filled episode of "Are You A Charlotte?" host Kristen Davis is joined by SNL alum Rachel Dratch to revisit “Was It Good For You?”—an episode from the second season of Sex and the City. The conversation swings from hilarious behind-the-scenes memories to thoughtful analysis of the show's impact on female sexuality, '90s culture, and the evolution of TV. Rachel Dratch shares her own journey as a fan-turned-guest-star, and the pair dig into the lasting cultural resonance of Charlotte York and her SATC companions.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Rachel Dratch’s “Bucket List” Moment on And Just Like That

• Nostalgia and Fan Experience: Rachel describes joining "And Just Like That," calling it a “bucket list moment” (04:37), describing how surreal it was to be on the set of a show she avidly followed.
  • “I was just like, oh. I was having a — I was like, there’s everybody. … It was a bucket list moment.” — Rachel Dratch (04:37)
• Table Read Pressure: Kristen and Rachel dive into the pressures of table reads, comparing their intensity to SNL rehearsals (06:06). Kristen notes the stress:
  • _"If you didn’t land a joke in the read through, that joke would get cut." — Kristen Davis (06:38)
• Modern Read-Throughs: The shift to larger rooms and remote read-throughs with iPads for HBO execs watching from LA.

2. Directing and Working With the SATC Cast

• Cynthia Nixon as Director: Rachel discusses being directed by Cynthia Nixon, who balanced acting and directing on And Just Like That (09:58).
  • Kristen shares how Michael Patrick King would act as a “little birdie” to offer additional direction, especially in emotional scenes (13:06).
  • “She was in the scene. … Michael was like, just kind of whispering in my ear, like, you have to get—carry the weight of the moral reality.” — Kristen Davis (13:14)
• Directing Difficult Scenes: Kristen explains the challenges—and surprises—of filming emotional scenes vs. comedic expectations (11:42).

3. Rachel’s Character and SNL Spoofs

• The “Pest” Character: Rachel played an overzealous book event planner named Kerry (with an alternative spelling to avoid "Karen") on AJLT (16:25). She recounts how costume design even included housefly earrings to emphasize her character's “pest” nature.
• SNL’s Sex and the City Parodies: Both recall the frequency and fun of watching SNL spoof SATC, with Rachel confessing her less-than-perfect Cynthia Nixon impression (17:18).
  • “I'm just gonna be honest here. … I just threw on the red wig and crossed my fingers.” — Rachel Dratch (17:22)
• Being Spoofed as a Badge of Honor: Kristen reflects, "It was like such a kind of an honor really to get spoofed." (17:42)

4. The SATC Fandom—Past and Present

• Early Days of Watching: Rachel reminisces about making SATC her Sunday ritual as a young SNL cast member in 1999 (23:33).
  • "That chord, it just gives me a good feeling... it just so encapsulated, you know, life in your 30s." — Rachel Dratch (24:17)
• Gradual Rise to Fame: Kristen shares how the show’s cult following grew slowly, especially through word-of-mouth among women before it became a TV phenomenon (25:05).

5. Making Groundbreaking TV: Women, Sex, and Real Stories

• Origins in Real Experience: Kristen details how early episode plots were “once removed” from real stories—never direct, but close to life and always authentic (26:42).
• Working Exhaustion: She describes grueling shooting schedules and the impact on memory, especially for late-season episodes (28:25).

6. Deep Dive: “Was It Good For You?” (Season 2, Episode 16)

Charlotte’s Storyline—Falling Asleep During Sex

• Unexpected Sadness: The episode begins with Charlotte’s partner falling asleep during sex—a plot point neither host remembered but both found poignant yet a little innocent amidst SATC standards (29:41).
  • "I can't even. It's weird. It's interesting. I mean, it must have happened to someone because it ended up in here." — Kristen Davis (30:40)

Tantric Sex, ’90s Wellness, and Comic Gold

• Tantric Sex Boom: Charlotte’s “solution” to her romantic woes is a group tantric sex class, which leads to one of the show’s most uproarious scenes (33:19).
  • Rachel highlights the unforgettable casting and awkward hilarity of the classroom demonstration.
  • Kristen fondly recalls filming, barely containing laughter as SJP repeatedly broke character—and how rare it was for SJP to do so (39:24).

Iconic Scene: Miranda and the “Lingam Massage”

• Behind the Scenes: The infamous “Jergens lotion and spoon” prop trick is revealed—Travis, the prop guy, would sling the lotion at Cynthia Nixon, who never broke during the take (45:40).
  • _"It hit her hair and her nose and she did not break at all." — Kristen Davis (46:09)
• Subtlety of Comedy: Rachel and Kristen appreciate the low-tech, physical-comedy roots and Cynthia Nixon’s professionalism.
• Tagging the Joke: Miranda later dabs her hair at home, referencing the spa mishap—a detail both women found delightfully subtle (47:17).

Samantha, Pansexuality, and Queer Representation

• A Forward-Looking Moment: Samantha’s storyline involves two gay men inviting her for a threesome. She declares, “the future of sexuality is that everyone will be pansexual”—remarkably prescient for 1999 (48:18).
  • “That’s something you would hear now.” — Rachel Dratch (48:47)
• Tasteful Filming: Kristen notes the care taken in shooting steamy scenes—often opting for suggestion over explicit visuals to keep things respectful and comedic (49:44).

7. Woo Woo and Pisces Energy

• Going Off-Topic—And Loving It: Rachel and Kristen connect over their Pisces birthdays and embrace woo-woo spirituality, which both consider intertwined with the core of Sex and the City’s more philosophical side (35:14).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On joining the set as a superfan:

  • “While I was in the scene, there was also, like, the other Rachel: I’m in the scene with Sarah Jessica Parker, you know! So I was fangirling and trying to act at the same time.” – Rachel Dratch (08:06)

• On ‘Carrie is a bad friend’ discourse:

  • “I never bought into that … I’m Team Carrie.” – Rachel Dratch (32:16)
  • “She’s such a sweet friend. She’s just trying to make me feel better.” — Kristen Davis (32:46)

• On Samantha, sexuality, and being ahead of her time:

  • “For a sex columnist, you are not very progressive … the future of sexuality is that everyone will be pansexual.” — Samantha Jones, paraphrased (48:18)

• On breaking during filming the tantric scene:

  • “There haven’t been that many times where different people have consistently broken right — like for Sarah Jessica to break, it’s very rare. … This was one of those times.” – Kristen Davis (39:24)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Fan to Guest Star (“Bucket List” Moment) – 04:37
• SATC Table Reads & SNL Comparisons – 06:38
• Drinking Cosmopolitans with SJP – 08:28
• Cynthia Nixon as Director, Behind-the-Scenes Insights – 09:58
• The “Pest” Character and Costume Details – 16:25
• SNL Spoofs and Impressions – 17:18
• SATC’s Gradual Rise to Fame – 24:39
• Making TV from Real Stories – 26:42
• On-set Exhaustion and Memory Gaps – 28:25
• Rewatching "Was It Good For You?" – 29:27
• Tantric Sex Class Scene, Breaking Character – 33:19 & 39:24
• Behind the Jergens Lotion Prop – 45:40
• Miranda’s At-home Callback – 47:17
• Samantha’s Pansexual Foresight – 48:18
• Filming Intimate Scenes Tastefully – 49:44
• Woo-Woo & Pisces Bonding – 35:14

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Episode Tone & Style

Lively, honest, and warm—with bursts of laughter and loving irreverence. Both hosts blend nostalgia for the ‘90s and early 2000s with frank discussions of how TV can reshape conversations about women, friendship, and sex. Rachel’s comedic timing and self-effacing humor pair well with Kristen’s affectionate deep dives and industry insight.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is a treasure for Sex and the City fans, ’90s/2000s pop culture enthusiasts, and anyone curious about TV production. It offers rich behind-the-scenes stories, thoughtful reflections on changing attitudes about gender and sexuality, and plenty of laughs—especially about on-set mishaps and the quirks of fame. The chemistry between Dratch and Davis is delightful, making for an engaging and often hilarious hour.

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Transcript

[Rachel Dratch]

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[Kristen Davis]

Hi, I'm Kristen Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte?

[Rachel Dratch]

Hi.

[Kristen Davis]

Hi.

[Rachel Dratch]

Hi, Rachel.

[Kristen Davis]

Dress.

[Rachel Dratch]

Hello, Rachel. So excited. Me too. Nice to see you.

[Kristen Davis]

We are here at Ru Charlotte. Thanks for listening and watching or whatever you're doing. You guys, it's good to be here. We're here. Rachel is here. We have a couple things to talk about, but technically we are here to rewatch an episode of Sex and the City from season two. So kind of back in the day, it is called Was It Good for your. It's a very interesting episode. But also those of you who watch all the shows would know that Rachel joined us on and just like that, which was really, really fun. She was in the episode Bomb Cyclone, which was a cool episode. Cynthia directed.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes. And let me just say, it was like, it was one of those moments. Like, I mean, I watched Sex and City back then. It was my Sunday night ritual. So, I mean, I loved it and still do. But so then when I got the call that I was gonna be, that was like a moment that was. I hate the term bucket list, but it was a total. It was a bucket list moment.

[Kristen Davis]

I totally.

[Rachel Dratch]

So then when I walked in to the read through, I mean, you don't understand. Maybe you do. Cause maybe everyone that comes in is like this. But I was just like, oh. I was having a. I was like, there's everybody. There's all the cast. And it's a lot of like. Yeah. But I mean, it was like, in the most fun way.

[Kristen Davis]

Good.

[Rachel Dratch]

Everyone was really friendly. But it was also just like, anytime you're on something that you used to watch before you ever, like, you know, dreamed of making it. But anyways, so, yes, that was hard to.

[Kristen Davis]

It's hard for us. I mean, people do say this, and it's super interesting. I mean, for me. And you come from Saturday Night Live, which to me, there is nothing more intimidating or frightening or scary or, like, I literally don't know how you guys do it. Like, I mean, I technically know how you do it, but the idea of that pressure, you know, like, wow, wow, wow. And the, you know, every week creating that show and not knowing, like, having to prove yourself and, you know, not get cut the skin and the thing like, oh, Lord, Lord, Lord. But the read throughs are the closest that we come because Michael Patrick is old school. You know, he came from old school sitcoms. Right?

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

So especially back in the day of. For instance, this particular episode we're gonna talk about was in 1999, which is kind of funny to say. Right? Like a long time ago, we would have our read throughs back then and they were. Have you shot at Silver Cup. Yeah, yeah. It's so adorable and like weirdly old fashioned. We would have them in a, like a room probably this size, like a much smaller room back then. And if you didn't land a joke, you know, in the read through, that joke would get cut.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right, right.

[Kristen Davis]

You know, yeah. And once we then did, and just like that, we were off in just this huge room. I mean, so many people. And we would have the iPad so that everyone back in LA at HBO could be watching.

[Rachel Dratch]

Did you notice that? Oh, no.

[Kristen Davis]

There were iPads set up like this, like semi innocuously. You know what I mean? But they're filming you for, for everyone back in La La Land to be watching, which was interesting. And then there'd be like, just like so, so, so many people at those read throughs. And I would say to my younger pretend children, you know, on the show, like, you guys like really, like hit your toes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Like maybe like.

[Rachel Dratch]

What do you mean?

[Kristen Davis]

Because, you know, it's a different world now.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right, right, right.

[Kristen Davis]

You just be like so quiet over there in the read through.

[Rachel Dratch]

And I'd be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't get cut, don't get your stuff cut. Right, right.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah, but it's, it's. Obviously you were fully on and wonderful, but like, they want to see it, you know, they want to see it.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, I didn't even realize that we were being watched from afar. I know, makes sense, I guess. But.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah, I know, right? The new technology is interesting, but it's better than having like even more people in the room.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right? That's true. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

But it does have like a. Almost like a live theater element. Those read throughs.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

It was so much fun.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes. Well, that was my, you know, dream come true. And then I was. When I was in. I was in a scene with sjp. Can I call her that?

[Kristen Davis]

No.

[Rachel Dratch]

I was in a scene with Sarah Jessica Parker. And like, I hate to say this because it's kind of unprofessional, but like, while I was in the scene, I. Like, I was in the scene, but then there was also like the other Rachel, like, I'm in the scene with Sarah Jessica Parker, you Know. So I was like, fangirling and trying to act at the same time. But it was super fun, though. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

And then you went for a drink. Is this right? Did you tell me?

[Rachel Dratch]

This is so funny. So we were shooting in a hotel. Cause this big, like, you know, conference was the scene. And so then it was the end of the day, and Cynthia was directing, and Sarah Jessica Parker was like, well, I'm gonna go get. Go get a drink at the bar, like, end of the day. And she's like, do you want anything? And I was. First of all, I was like. Cause I get very shy around my idols, like, right now. But anyway. So she's like, do you want a drink? And I was like, oh, sure, I'll have a margarita. Cause that's my usual. Go to. And then she was like, well, I'm gonna get a Cosmo. And then I was like, oh, I have to get the Cosmo. It was like, make a wish or some auction item. Like, have a Cosmo with Sarah Jessica Barker. So I was like, I'll have a Cosmo. So then she came up with these Styrofoam cups for the bike.

[Kristen Davis]

Styrofoam.

[Rachel Dratch]

I don't know why, but whatever. It was like, the takeaway something. But then the funny thing is, like, Cynthia, who I also, you know, don't know well at all, like, who is the director? Like, there I am on the set at the end of the day, just like, boozing it up. And I wanted to be like, I've never done this. Cause it seemed I'm still holding my object.

[Kristen Davis]

I know, I know.

[Rachel Dratch]

Let me put that down. That's right.

[Kristen Davis]

But look, Sarah Jessica gave you the go ahead. You're not in trouble.

[Rachel Dratch]

Was a little bit like, I'm drinking on the job. But I did get to have a Cosmo with Sarah Jessica Parker. That was a big moment for you. Love it.

[Kristen Davis]

And what was it like having Cynthia direct? Was that bizarre?

[Rachel Dratch]

I mean, like, I don't know how the show usually works. So I was just, you know, she was a good director and she was giving me good notes, but, you know, nothing too, like, intrusive. So she did a great job, in my opinion. But, you know, I didn't know if she was directing there all the time. Like, I didn't know if that was her first time. Cause, you know, you're just like, when. When you come into someone's set, you're just sort of like, I'll go where they tell me.

[Kristen Davis]

Of course. Of course. Of course.

[Rachel Dratch]

Was that her first time? Directing?

[Kristen Davis]

No, Bomb Cyclone was not her first time directing. She had directed the episode where she has a experience with Che in Carrie's.

[Rachel Dratch]

Apartment in the kitchen scene.

[Kristen Davis]

She directed herself.

[Rachel Dratch]

She directed herself in that.

[Kristen Davis]

Can you believe that? And then the next episode where I find out about it in the park and I yell at her.

[Rachel Dratch]

She.

[Kristen Davis]

She also directed that.

[Rachel Dratch]

Wow.

[Kristen Davis]

Can you believe that?

[Rachel Dratch]

I mean, directing your own sex scene.

[Kristen Davis]

I know.

[Rachel Dratch]

That's a whole.

[Kristen Davis]

It's a situation. Right? Wow. I know. She's so brave.

[Rachel Dratch]

That would be difficult.

[Kristen Davis]

I know. She did so great, though.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah, yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

So great. Now, Michael Patrick was also around because when we went to the scene. First of all, this is something that happens frequently to me, which is bizarre. I would read a script and we would do the read through, of course, and I would pursue as happening one certain way. Like, for me. And this is more to do with me than to do with the script. I thought that scene where she has that interlude with Che and Carrie is in the bed because she's had her hip replacement thing or whatever it was. It's a hip replacement. Right. Okay. I thought it was gonna be funny, but it really, really wasn't. Like, it really, really wasn't.

[Rachel Dratch]

It was very intense and serious and scary. Do you know there were a lot of sounds from what I recall?

[Kristen Davis]

Sounds, and then, like, Carrie is so stressed, and then she has to pee in a Snapple bottle.

[Rachel Dratch]

Do you remember this? I forgot about that.

[Kristen Davis]

Right. See, when I read that, that seemed comic to me.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, yeah. I could see that. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

You know, so then when it came out, I was like, whoa, that's interesting.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah. That could have been a comic thing.

[Kristen Davis]

Right. And then when the scene comes in the park where I find out and I'm talking about ships sailing for some reason, I don't know why I can't remember. Like, you know how you remember weird things about your acting?

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

It's true for you. Like, you remember things that aren't necessarily the most important thing. Right, right. So there's. We're outside. We're at Battery park, and there are ships out in the ocean. And I'm comparing something to ships sailing. I don't know what. Maybe her and Eigenberg, Steve. I don't know, meaning Miranda and Steve and Michael Patrick's there. Cynthia is technically directing. So she set up the shot. She's set up the blocking. We've rehearsed all that.

[Rachel Dratch]

Stu.

[Kristen Davis]

I think it's kind of a Charlotte scene where I'm like. I mean, you know, you're attracted To a non binary person, it's a moment. It's not a big deal. Like, I thought it was like that. Like Charlotte being like, oh, you know, it's fine. No, he comes to me, Michael, Patrick, and he's like, yell at her.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh.

[Kristen Davis]

And he goes, you are the moral compass here. I was like, ooh, I'm the moral compass? Oh, my gosh.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh. So you had to be all stern or something.

[Kristen Davis]

Well, I had to. Really.

[Rachel Dratch]

I don't remember this, like, in this.

[Kristen Davis]

Much detail, but I know, which is fine.

[Rachel Dratch]

We're not supposed to. We didn't think. I have a card kettle. No, no, no, no.

[Kristen Davis]

It came to me because I was thinking about her directing. Right. And the. It's so interesting because she was in the scene. Right, right. And I don't know in the scene if she would have told me to shout at her necessarily. Right. But Michael was like, just kind of whispering in my ear, like, you have to get. Carry the weight of the moral reality that she has now kind of irrevocably broken her marriage to Steve.

[Rachel Dratch]

Wow.

[Kristen Davis]

I know.

[Rachel Dratch]

I was not looking at it with this, like, psych thesis. I'm glad. Me neither.

[Kristen Davis]

Me neither.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right.

[Kristen Davis]

So, like, it's just one of those interesting things where, like, yes, she was directing, but she was also in that scene. So he was kind of like the little birdie in my ear to kind of, in a way enliven that scene for her. You know what I'm saying? In a way where when you're directing yourself, you can't necessarily do.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right, right.

[Kristen Davis]

Though she probably would have done that because this is the thing that I remember. And Bomb Cyclone, definitely. So that was Bomb Cyclone. She directed the second season. She wasn't able to direct the third season because she was doing Gilded Age and just like that at the same time, which was insanity. But she's amazing, obviously, and can handle all of it. She really wanted to direct. And they were like, no, you're. You know, there's not enough of you. Bomb Cyclone. I remember she really. She didn't have a huge storyline for herself in that, and so she directed us a lot. Like, a lot. Yeah. I was like, cynthia, it's so many notes. I can't remember. I can't remember. But you were perfect in the read through. I remember that. So you didn't need any notes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Well, I had kind of a goofy part, so that was good for me. I didn't have to have an interlude in the kitchen. So, I mean, no intimacy coordinator needed for my.

[Kristen Davis]

I know, I know. Thank God. But I love the whole, like, you know, what is your take on the character that you played? Which is, you know, I just.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, this is kind of funny. Like, so I just saw her as this. So I played this, like, event planner for Carrie's book tour. And I had set up. But then I come in and we had worked together. Like, worked together long ago. We had tried to write a screenplay together that never got off the ground, but. But anyway, I come in, like, remember me? So I just saw myself as a pest. So that's what I just saw myself as. But then the funny. And I kept using that word in my mind. I'm a pest. Then. The cool thing is when I came in for my costume fitting, they had earrings for me that were house flies. Cause you know how they go. So I mean, you know, I'm not doing anything new. Like, they go wacky. Hey, guess what, guys. They take risks. The costumes. But they were house flies. And they also had a big insect necklace for me. And I was like, this is so.

[Kristen Davis]

Like, I know Molly. Molly and Danny are like, on another level of.

[Rachel Dratch]

That was kind of incredible. Who even knew there were house fly earrings?

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, I.

[Rachel Dratch]

So go back and look very closely. My ears in that scene.

[Kristen Davis]

I love it so much. And so you. Your character is named Carrie.

[Rachel Dratch]

But I used to be named Karen. But I said, not a good time for white women named Karen. So I go by. I go by Kerry now. Like K E R, R Y or something like that. It was like, Carrie Gary.

[Kristen Davis]

Too funny.

[Rachel Dratch]

Really Trying to, like, make the connection with Carrie.

[Kristen Davis]

It was too funny. It was too funny. I'm so glad. I think, that they. I don't know the details. Cause I'm not in the writers room, but I think they wrote that hoping that you would do it.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, well, I'll just believe that to be true. No, that was so fun. I'm so glad. There's some things like that you wish you could be on a certain show. And I never even dreamed of it. So that was a good call to get. Yeah. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

You know how you guys used to spoof us on Saturday Night Live?

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, yeah. Did you play me? No. It was so weird. I played. Okay. I did a horrible. Christina Aguilera was the horrible. And I don't know when. No, but she played Samantha. Samantha and I got sort of.

[Kristen Davis]

Kristen played me.

[Rachel Dratch]

Who did?

[Kristen Davis]

Kristen Wiig.

[Rachel Dratch]

No, she wasn't on yet.

[Kristen Davis]

No, she wasn't on yet. Maybe she played me later.

[Rachel Dratch]

But I did not do a good impression. You didn't No, I mean, I'm just gonna be honest here. My impressions, like, if I see someone, I'm like, oh, I could do them, that's one thing. But if you just get told like, you're doing Cynthia Nicks, I just wasn't, you know, I don't have that savant thing. So I just threw on the red wig and cross my fingers, you know.

[Kristen Davis]

I'm sure it was fun.

[Rachel Dratch]

I forget who played you.

[Kristen Davis]

I forget who played me too, because I feel like it happened more than once that they spoofed things they probably knew. And I mean, it was like such a kind of an honor really to get spoofed. You know what I mean? And at one point, someone spoofed me wearing polka dot, like a polka dot bow. And I was like, well, that's all you have to do is just put on the blouse.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right, right.

[Kristen Davis]

It's fine.

[Rachel Dratch]

I mean, I'm sure they've done many over the years. Yeah, like maybe after I was there too. But that's the one. I remember that Christina.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, she was a funny Samantha.

[Rachel Dratch]

She just said like, I think she came in like, well, I can do these people. And so like they had. So then they write the scene. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

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[Rachel Dratch]

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[Kristen Davis]

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[Rachel Dratch]

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[Kristen Davis]

So this is my other thing I wanna ask you. So when you say that it was kind of amazing and interesting to come on a show you'd already watched, what was your experience of watching? Like, when did you start? Oh.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, my gosh. Well, I remember. I remember the fall of 99. It was my first season on SNL.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, wow.

[Rachel Dratch]

And so I had this, like, little apartment on the Upper west side. And, like, there was a while where I had no furniture because the movers, like, lost my. When I first got the job. You're, like, so excited. And I remember, like, in this little apartment with, like, just sitting on this little, like, mat. But I had the tv and that was my Sunday night ritual. Like, I. Like, as soon as you hear that H be like that chord, it just gives me a good feeling. And then, like, the opening music of it, like, it just. I feel like it just so encapsulated, you know, life in your 30s, trying to make it in wherever. New York or wherever, you know.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

So it was definitely my, like, appointment television, but I can't. I must have watched when it first came out too. But I mean, it had only been.

[Kristen Davis]

This is. I think we came out in 98. This is the second season. So, I mean, and there were only 13 in the first season. And then we just, like, started just bam, bam, bam, trying to get it. Get them made. Because people were watching.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right, Right.

[Kristen Davis]

But we didn't really at this point, people keep coming to my podcast and telling me, like, it was the biggest hit. I'm like, no, second season. Season was not the biggest hit. I mean, it was for us. Great, right? Because we didn't really ever perceive what was coming. You know, who could? Right?

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

But then to me, third season was when it kind of, like, bumped up.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, okay. Okay.

[Kristen Davis]

It took time because HBO was kind of new to original programming and whatnot. You know what I mean? So I think women were like, quietly watching it. You know what I mean? And then it just kind of built. Built a. Built to build. And we were just talking to any press people who would ever talk to us. Like, we were just like, begging people, like, will you please talk to us? Which is funny to think about now.

[Rachel Dratch]

Wow. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

In the olden day, media.

[Rachel Dratch]

Cause I just. I was telling you, I just watched like, eight of them in a row on a plane. And I was just like. And some of them, like, they're very poignant. Like, some of them, they really get you. But they're also funny. Like, that's what I love. I mean, I love anything that's, like, both things, you know?

[Kristen Davis]

I agree. Cause it was very hard to do.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

So hard to do this. And I don't think people necessarily realize, nor should they. I guess it's not their job. Right. But, like, to be able. And I love that they allowed us to try to do all the different things, you know? And when you look back, especially in the beginning. Well, in the beginning beginning, there's just darkness. Like, the men are just like, oh, okay. I mean, I felt when I watched it at least. I mean, it really took me back in a bit bad way to the 90s, you know what I mean? I'm talking about the very beginning, which was really based on Candace's column, you know, and as Candace told me when she came on, that was really based on people just telling her stuff.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Like, people would come up to parties and be like, I did.

[Rachel Dratch]

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

[Kristen Davis]

Like, kind of cool, kind of scary. Like, there's some.

[Rachel Dratch]

But I love all the specifics you guys all hit on. Like, you know, the guy who this. And the guy, like, you could tell that was from someone's real story. 100% fun about it. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes. So once we veer off from Candace's own column, it's our writers stories and. Or people they know. So there's a rule that had to be only once removed. It couldn't be like someone heard something from someone. It had to be like, my friend did, blah, blah, blah, or this happened to my friend. Yeah. Which is. Everyone thought it was our stories. Thank God. No, it would be very hard to act your own stories.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right.

[Kristen Davis]

You know, that would be very weird. Thank God. But we did. There was a time where I remember we would. You know how you're just sitting there for so long on a set, like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And at a certain point, if the writers would walk up, we'd just stop talking. We'd be scared.

[Rachel Dratch]

Wait, say that again, then say what?

[Kristen Davis]

We stopped talking when the writers came. We didn't want them to hear us saying anything. You know what I mean?

[Rachel Dratch]

I thought you were being told to be quiet on the set.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

Sometimes. Probably we were.

[Kristen Davis]

Probably we were chattering, but you know what I mean? We were chattering a lot. But if the writers came, we would.

[Rachel Dratch]

Just Be like, oh, God, we don't want this.

[Kristen Davis]

We don't want them to hear anything important. Stop. Stop talking. But it really was not us. Okay, okay. Let's talk about this episode. Because this episode, very interesting. As I was telling you when we walked in, there's some episodes I watch and I remember so much. There's some episodes I watch and I remember almost nothing. This is close to almost nothing. And I think it's because it's towards this end of the season and you're so exhausted. And we would work all night long till the sun came up. So many days a week. Yes. Like, certainly Thursday, Friday into Saturday morning. But then we would start Monday at 5am so you were just trying to turn your sleep around. That's all you were trying to do. Right. And, like, take care of your feet, you know.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, and those heels.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, my gosh.

[Kristen Davis]

It was a lot. So this episode is called Was It Good for your? And it's directed by Dan Algrant, which is also really interesting. He was, like, a indie filmmaker friend of Sarah Jessica's somehow, which I need to ask her how. I think this might be his second episode, which is cool. Or third. And Michael Patrick King wrote this one, which is so nice. So he had come on first season, and then he's, like, writing more and directing more as time goes on. And at some point, he basically takes over. And so many, so many men are in this. I'm not even gonna name them. We'll name them when we get to them. So this whole episode is so sad. And I didn't remember the storyline at all. This is a very sad storyline for Charlotte because the whole episode starts with Charlotte having sex with some guy we've never seen in her bed. Turns out he's asleep. He falls asleep when they are having sex. What on earth. I mean, I was shocked. Do you remember this?

[Rachel Dratch]

Well, I don't remember seeing this one back when. But I did my homework.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, thank you.

[Rachel Dratch]

So I just saw. Thank you, Rachel.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes, thank you, Rachel.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah. But I didn't remember.

[Kristen Davis]

I don't remember this either. I mean, wow. Sad.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

And sad for Charlotte.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes.

[Kristen Davis]

And then very soon, we see Charlotte just having, like, a whole little breakdown in Carrie's apartment. And Carrie trying to be so nice to her and saying, like, oh, I'm. You know, was he just, you know. And also the guy. So I'm like, making little sexy noises, whatever. And then I'm like, what's his name? Kevin Flynn. Is his real name Bram Walker. Bram. Dr. Bram Walker.

[Rachel Dratch]

The Orthopedist. The orthopedic surgeon. Something like that, yes.

[Kristen Davis]

And that's his whole thing he's saying is, I was up at 5 in the morning. I have a very hard job. At some point he says he had three carpal tunnel syndrome. You know, surgeries. Surgeries, thank you. That's the word. And then someone else wrote in my notes that they take like 20 minutes, which is kind of funny. But anyway, he's fallen asleep, which really, I cannot really actually imagine that this could happen. But I guess it must have happened to somebody.

[Rachel Dratch]

I guess so.

[Kristen Davis]

And if that has happened to you out there, I'm really sorry. I feel like that really would be painful to one's ego, don't you think?

[Rachel Dratch]

I would imagine so, yes.

[Kristen Davis]

Right. I can't even. It's weird. It's interesting. I mean, it must have happened to someone because it ended up in here.

[Rachel Dratch]

It's funny. Cause when I was watching this, I wasn't even thinking of it as so bad. Cause in the context of the, like everything that happens on the show, this seemed like.

[Kristen Davis]

No, that's a good point.

[Rachel Dratch]

A little more tame.

[Kristen Davis]

That's a good point. That's a good point. It is a little bit innocent in a way. That's true in a good.

[Rachel Dratch]

But Charlotte was upset. Well, yes.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, it's just hard to, like, if you really think about it, it's hard to really imagine this happening. Like, it would be weird. I feel like you'd be like.

[Rachel Dratch]

I mean, I guess it would depend if it was like a one time thing or a constant thing. And then you would be a little more concerned, that's for sure.

[Kristen Davis]

I also think it's because they're dating. Right? Like it's not even like when you've been in a relationship for a lot of time.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right.

[Kristen Davis]

Like it should be exciting, right? Theoretically, it should be exciting. But so what I. This is one of the things I love when I'm rewatching. I just like to carry a storyline through.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right.

[Kristen Davis]

Rather than switching back and forth, like how the show does. So one of the things. So we cut to Carrie, what's my name? Charlotte's telling Carrie about it and crying, like so upset, you know, very Charlotte. And Carrie's being so sweet. Like her little sweet. You know, when people talk about this whole thing that happened really during COVID I think about like, Carrie's not a good friend. Carrie's a narcissist.

[Rachel Dratch]

I feel that.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

And I was like, I never bought into that.

[Kristen Davis]

Me neither.

[Rachel Dratch]

Me neither. I'm Team Carrie.

[Kristen Davis]

Me, too.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah. I didn't even get that. I know.

[Kristen Davis]

I agree 100%. It seemed really odd to me. I mean, I do think, too, like, the Internet is its own animal and it just does some weird stuff sometimes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah. Right. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

And then they all. Everyone jumps in.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah. I don't get how that came up.

[Kristen Davis]

Me neither. Because, like, in this particular scene, like, there's so many instances, especially way back, where, I mean, she's such a sweet friend.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Like, she's just trying to make me feel better. She's trying to make me tea. She shouldn't know what else to do. And then I say, did anyone ever fall asleep having sex with you? And she's like, well.

[Rachel Dratch]

Well, no. Really?

[Kristen Davis]

So sweet. And then the thing that I really love, and I do remember this part, is that Charlotte's solution, or, you know, plan for this, is that she needs to take a tantric sex class. Right. And I do remember in the 90s, there was a fair amount of conversation about tantric sex. Do you remember this?

[Rachel Dratch]

I don't. I mean, not. What I mean is, like, not particular. The 90s. Like, I've heard this concept over time. Concept, yes.

[Kristen Davis]

Got it. I remember in the 90s, I think, because also I was in LA. Right. Where yoga.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Was booming. And so the tantric sex kind of comes out of yoga.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah. So I remember hearing Sting. Sting practices this.

[Kristen Davis]

100%.

[Rachel Dratch]

Not to go off topic.

[Kristen Davis]

That was big. No, I think that's how most people know. Yeah.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Very impressive.

[Rachel Dratch]

We've all heard about stink.

[Kristen Davis]

Dang, man.

[Rachel Dratch]

Anyway, we're impressed. Okay. Sorry to go off.

[Kristen Davis]

No, not at all. Interrupt anytime you want. Okay. I think that's how people know about tantric sex was stink.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

You know what I mean? Which I feel like was later, but who knows?

[Rachel Dratch]

I think it was later. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, I knew people who. Who. I don't know if I'm not gonna say their name, but I knew. I. I trained as a yoga teacher in the 90s.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

@ yoga Works, when there was only one yoga work on Montana. Did you ever go there? No.

[Rachel Dratch]

I went to one here.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah. Because now they're everywhere. They're everywhere. Which is amazing. But this is back in the 90s. It was before I started working a lot. I was auditioning a lot, which is really hard, obviously. And my solution to the stress of that was to go to yoga every morning. That was like my. You know, like, how to get through it. And then I thought, well, gosh, you know, maybe I should just do this because I loved it. But at that point in time, this was early 90s, people thought that yoga was a religion. Like, they still didn't really realize. No, it's something that you can just do for your body and your mind, and it's not a religion religion. You know, there's still kind of woo woo. To use your word.

[Rachel Dratch]

There's woo woo.

[Kristen Davis]

I told Sarah Jessica that you were coming on and that you had a podcast, and she said, what's it called? And I said, I think it's called the woo Woo. Or maybe it's Woohoo. So we had a conversation about whether it was woohoo.

[Rachel Dratch]

It's woo woo woo woo.

[Kristen Davis]

I love it. I love it because I am the queen of the woo woo in our group. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I've done all the things.

[Rachel Dratch]

By the way, I noticed that on your Wikipedia that you're a Pisces and your birthday's a day after mine, but we'll talk about that later. Oh, my God, the Pisces queens. Anyway, I'm really taking you off topic in many ways, Rachel.

[Kristen Davis]

I love to go off and Drew Barrymore, too.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes. She and I have the same birthday.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, my God. Amazing.

[Rachel Dratch]

Amazing.

[Kristen Davis]

I love it. I love it. Pisces queens. We all need to do woo woo things, right?

[Rachel Dratch]

That's why we're very woo Woo. Because we're Pisces. Yeah, Right. We just got to think the most woo Woo sign there is.

[Kristen Davis]

It is the most woo woo sign. Without a doubt. Without a doubt.

[Rachel Dratch]

And you know what?

[Kristen Davis]

I'm proud of it.

[Rachel Dratch]

I don't like. Yes, let's be woo Woo. Yes, let's.

[Kristen Davis]

Right?

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Yay. Okay. I'm so glad. I'm so glad. Okay, we got that done.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay.

[Rachel Dratch]

Back to the.

[Kristen Davis]

So I always wondered. I remember when this was happening, and I wondered because also, we would all sometimes do yoga in scenes. Do you remember those episodes? There's one where all four of us are doing yoga. There's one where Carrie and I are doing yoga. And I don't know if that was me related, because I think I did talk about it kind of incessantly. But also it was very much like the new thing at the time, you know? So the tantric sex thing. I remember this part because it was one of those scenes where we're just like, oh, my God, how are we ever going to get through this? You know, Charlotte signs all the girls up to go. It's not their idea. It's her idea. And I have to beg them at the coffee shop. Like, please come. And even Samantha agrees to come. And they come, and there's this lovely. Yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, my God. No. The casting on the people was so perfect.

[Kristen Davis]

It was so good, right?

[Rachel Dratch]

It was like chef's kiss.

[Kristen Davis]

Perfect, 100% and not easy to do. I remember the stress of, like, who is going to be teaching and.

[Rachel Dratch]

And who's gonna be receiving or whatever you wanna call it, demonstrating. Totally. Oh, my God. That guy was like, the perfectly cast.

[Kristen Davis]

I know. And I remember New York character 100% at the time. I am like, we are all so mortified. Like, so mortified that these people, these older actors have come onto our show to do this insane thing. When I watch it now, and I really enjoyed watching it, partly because I know. I remember that we could barely get through it. Like, it's one of those things you can barely get through. Like, Sarah Jessica is laughing. Her real self.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, that's. I love that.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes, me too. And I am trying to be my best Charlotte self. I'm taking those notes, man. I'm, like, in it to win it. You know what I'm saying? Which I love. Like, to me, that's very kind of quintessential Charlotte. I'm also telling them to be quiet, which I love so much. I'm like, shh.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Which is really enjoyable.

[Rachel Dratch]

Do you know what I mean?

[Kristen Davis]

And they're all over there, like, cooking up, and, you know, the lady has to tell them to stop laughing. And Samantha is also so sweetly. Because of her own storyline, which we'll get to in a second. She's so sweetly kind of engaged and, like, rooting for them in a way. And then Sir Jessica, Carrie is just laughing her head off. And then Cynthia, you know, my producers reminded me that we. Did you ever know that Michael Patrick did a writer's podcast of. And just like that.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, I heard. I haven't listened to it, but I've heard that he does.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah, it's really good. And it's very in depth in terms of the writers room and what they were thinking more for. And just like that, he didn't do one for Sex and City, though I wish they would, because that would be super interesting. And we went on when it was the 25th anniversary, I think, of the show. Sarah, Cynthia and I went on his podcast and we relived the scene. I don't know why it came up. Random, really random. But one of the reasons it came up, I think, was, like, there haven't been that many times where different people have consistently broken right like for Sarah Jessica to break, it's very rare. Very, very rare. Right? And this was one of those times like she could not stop laughing.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh my God.

[Kristen Davis]

And then Cynthia has to have the.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes, the substance. Well, maybe not the substance.

[Kristen Davis]

The substance. So yes, what should we say?

[Rachel Dratch]

I don't know.

[Kristen Davis]

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[Rachel Dratch]

I'm so excited.

[Kristen Davis]

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[Kristen Davis]

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[Cynthia Littleton]

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[Rachel Dratch]

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[Cynthia Littleton]

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[Kristen Davis]

Now we go to the tantric sex class, which we think, I believe is just going to be this lady describing things to us. And she does do that. But then at a certain point she brings out her husband who is this ponytailed, you know, lovely older man, and he lays on a pillow in front of us and she does the lingam massage, I believe she calls it, which is like woo. And our heads very carefully. At one point, my booklet that I'm taking my notes in blocks, there's a very creative blocking of any kind of private parts, which I remember was a lot of the stress of filming that, you know, separate from the fact that we couldn't stop laughing. But then, so the, the massage goes on for quite some time. I mean, quite some time, right? And we're all doing our different, you know, Charlotte's taking notes and trying to figure out what the lady's doing. And Samantha's like, go, girl. You know, and Carrie's laughing and Miranda's leaning forward like, well, this is very interesting. And then all of a sudden the man comes. I guess I can say that. I can say whatever I want. I guess we could bleep it. And it Hits Miranda in the face. And it was a very. Kind of one of those very low tech, but also precise prop type situations. Oh, yeah, right.

[Rachel Dratch]

Where our. Yeah. What was that set up?

[Kristen Davis]

It's Jergens lotion.

[Rachel Dratch]

Okay.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Rachel Dratch]

And like, was someone there with like a.

[Kristen Davis]

A spoon?

[Rachel Dratch]

I don't know.

[Kristen Davis]

A spoon.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, okay. I was wondering if it was more of like a Nerf gun situation or something.

[Kristen Davis]

It was a flung and he was under the camera. It was Travis, our incredible prop guy who really just kept our together at that point in time. And he's like under the camera and he has to just aim the spoon just right at Cynthia's head. God love him. And it hit her hair and her nose and she did not break.

[Rachel Dratch]

Wow.

[Kristen Davis]

At all.

[Rachel Dratch]

Wow. That's a professional.

[Kristen Davis]

Which is crazy, right?

[Rachel Dratch]

I mean, you all are professionals, but coming from someone who breaks, I don't know what I would do in that. But. But wow.

[Kristen Davis]

Honestly, I don't know what I would do in that either. And I remember the stress of it, all, right? Like the stress of having to theoretically watch this and this man is laying there and just the obviously wasn't doing what he's pretending to do. But I mean, it was just very stressful. And I feel like we were there for a while doing it.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, wow.

[Kristen Davis]

You know what I mean? But the thing that I love also just to finish this storyline and I had fully forgotten this, is that then when Miranda is back at home, she's bought these beautiful sheets that were really expensive.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

And she's sitting there reading a book and there's all these tissues next to her. And Carrie's voiceover just says something like, back at Miranda's, you know, things were going. Going better because, well, I don't know, whatever she says, things were nice on her nice sheets. And you're like, what are all those tissues doing? Is she crying? I thought, is she reading a sad book? Is she crying? No, she's dabbing her hair and her nose still.

[Rachel Dratch]

Oh, still. Just in case. Just in case remind you.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah. I'm sure she showered and everything, but she's still just like multiple dabbing, which is so adorable. I'd forgotten all that. I only really remember out of this whole episode, us with the. With the couple at the tantric sex. Which then also really reminds me. And I'm just gonna go out of order because. Cause it's fun. These two gay men wanna have sex with Samantha because they've never done it and they think she's the hottest, most beautiful straight woman. They know, and they wanna have sex with her, which is adorable. So she's walking down the street, she's talking to Kerry about it. And Kerry's like, but they're gay, you know, Very Carrie. And basically, Samantha says to her, you know, for a sex columnist, you are not very progressive, which is true. Then she says something like, you are not with the times. You know, the future of sexuality is that everyone will be pansexual.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right, Right.

[Kristen Davis]

Isn't that amazing?

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

In 1999, she says that.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Isn't that kind of true?

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah, it seems to be.

[Kristen Davis]

Right. Like, we've come a long, long way.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Like, the whole dichotomy, gay, straight, like, that's pretty much done.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right.

[Kristen Davis]

Like, there's many options.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right, right.

[Kristen Davis]

You know, which I think there should be. Even though in certain ways our culture is not moving forward in that way. It seems to be potentially moving forward. Yeah. Don't you think?

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, Samantha was on it.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah. That's something you would hear now. Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

I mean, I was very impressed. But it doesn't go so great with the gay men.

[Rachel Dratch]

No, it doesn't. They lose their will to be with a lady. They lose their will.

[Kristen Davis]

And the thing that really made me. So here we have this, like, tantric sex thing where our heads are all very carefully blocking, you know, the private parts. But then in the scene where Samantha does go to potentially have sex with the two gay men even though she's very on the fence about it, but then they're so complimentary and, like, you're amazing. You're amazing. You're amazing. She's like, okay. And then they kiss her on the neck and everything's going fine. And then they very, very delicately go down her body, but she's wearing this nightgown. And it's extremely, like, almost conservative the way they filmed it.

[Rachel Dratch]

That's true.

[Kristen Davis]

Right?

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Because in reality, they get to the private parts and they're like, no.

[Rachel Dratch]

They're like, I can't do this.

[Kristen Davis]

No. They're like, no, that's not for us. But they don't show, of course, anything. Like, nothing. You have to just fill it in with your mind what's happening, you know, Which I thought was interesting. But I also feel like if, you know, it was a lot.

[Rachel Dratch]

I think the way they filmed it made it seem. It almost made it seem more like, psychological than physical. Even though the implication was it was like we were backing out of this general area 100%.

[Kristen Davis]

100%. And I think it could also have been I mean, I don't know what the writers were thinking, but, like, you know, we don't want to offend our viewers.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

You know what I mean?

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Like, we want to be tasteful.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right.

[Kristen Davis]

You know, in that way, at least. Right. And I mean, I felt like it was.

[Rachel Dratch]

And that was kind of comical, too. Definitely. Like, the way that those guys acted was. I thought they were pretty funny.

[Kristen Davis]

They were pretty funny.

[Rachel Dratch]

Their whole, like, I can't do this was pretty fun.

[Kristen Davis]

It was pretty funny because they just wanted them to get on their clothes and go get food or whatever.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

It was cute. Really cute. And they also kind of look weirdly like twins.

[Rachel Dratch]

They did. They looked so similar, right? Yes.

[Kristen Davis]

Which I'm sure was on purpose.

[Rachel Dratch]

Yes. It had to be.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah. And I feel somehow that we've run into one of them. Like, I think one of them is a friend of somebody's or something, because I feel like sometimes they talk about it either. Either. Let's see. Sean or Brad. I have so many men. So many men are listed as guest stars, which is pretty common. But I feel. Yes. They look very familiar, though. I didn't remember the storyline. I mean, this was a fun episode because I was like, what's gonna happen? I don't know. I like it. I like to have that, you know?

[Rachel Dratch]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

It's funny to think that my body and my spirit and my mind and whatever was there, but I don't remember.

[Rachel Dratch]

Right.

[Kristen Davis]

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I'm so excited.

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