Stamp of Approval with Marcia Cross (S3 E13 "Escape From New York")

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Are You A Charlotte?

Episode: Stamp of Approval with Marcia Cross (S3 E13 "Escape From New York")

Host: Kristin Davis
Guest: Marcia Cross
Release Date: February 2, 2026
Podcast Network: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode is a nostalgic, heartwarming conversation between Kristin Davis (Charlotte from Sex and the City) and her longtime friend and fellow actress Marcia Cross (best known for Melrose Place and Desperate Housewives). The main theme intertwines reflections on their early Hollywood careers, the importance of friendship and mentorship, and behind-the-scenes insights into both the television industry and their personal growth. While anchored to the "Escape From New York" (Sex and the City) episode, the discussion weaves through memories of acting classes, 90s LA, and the significance of women supporting each other in a competitive industry.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Early Friendship and Shared History

• Kristin and Marcia reminisce about their friendship in the 1990s, when both were navigating fledgling acting careers in Los Angeles.
• They recall running around Santa Monica, rehearsing scenes, going to yoga, frequenting beloved magazine stands, and seeking community amid uncertainty.

[04:14] Marcia Cross: “Oh, my God. I just thought, am I a Charlotte? No. But I've always wanted to be a Charlotte.”
[05:10] Marcia Cross & Kristin Davis: Reflecting on feeling like “babies” in hindsight, though they didn’t see themselves that way at the time.

2. The Influence of Acting Coach Roy London

• Both actresses credit Roy London as a transformative figure in their careers and personal development.
• Roy’s approach: make every scene matter, bring high stakes and personal meaning even to “lame” TV scripts.
• Marcia recalls, “You never did a scene just to do a scene. You did a scene to save your life.” [08:07]

[09:23] Kristin Davis: “It hampered your actual creativity and the energetics of it… Roy was so special about… taking a really lame scene on the page… and kind of put something on top of it that meant something to you in that moment where you had stakes...”

• The impact of Roy London’s passing and his legacy in their craft and lives.

3. Daily Life and the 90s LA Scene

• Fond anecdotes about magazine stands, LA yoga culture ("the true Yoga Works"), and quirky habits – specifically, Kristin’s tendency to drive with her foot on the dashboard due to back comfort (and possible southern influences).
• Both reflect on their first LA homes, feeling “grounded,” and learning from each other’s strengths.

[13:14] Marcia Cross: “Kristen used to always get in the car and she'd take her foot and put it up on the dashboard... And so I drive like that now. And there isn't a time I do it where I don't think of Kristen.”

4. Shared Career Experiences: Melrose Place, Auditions, and the Realities of the Industry

• Behind-the-scenes survival: dealing with rapid-fire TV production, trying to bring depth to characters, pranking or “messing” with scene partners for real reactions.
• Marcia and Kristin discuss balancing high artistic standards (“the Roy perspective”) with the speed of soap/TV production, and the sometimes hilarious or awkward social dynamics on set.

[23:50] Kristin Davis: “I was often working with Andrew Shu... I would mess with him in scenes... try to get him present or whatever. And I remember he'd get really mad at me...”

• Both agree that shaking up complacent scene partners “probably brought [them] to life” [24:34].

5. Pivotal Career Moments: Getting Sex and the City and Desperate Housewives

• Kristin recalls her anxiety before "Sex and the City" and gratitude for Marcia’s steadying friendship.
• Marcia distinctly remembers predicting that Sex and the City would “change [Kristin’s] life” [28:01], and sharing that gut feeling.
• Marcia’s path post-Melrose Place: returning to school to study psychology, nearly leaving acting before landing Desperate Housewives.

Notable Quote [28:01]:
Marcia Cross: “I remember saying to you, this is going to change your life.”
Kristin Davis: “I don't remember that.”
Marcia Cross: “Oh, yes. You—oh yeah. I knew. I was like, this is a big deal.”

6. Being Women in Hollywood – Then and Now

• Discussion of evolving roles, support networks, and the importance of female friendship as a lifeline.
• How skepticism around women’s onscreen friendships in Sex and the City contrasted with their real-life closeness: “I just spent like three solid years with Marcia Cross... Thank God, right?” [16:16]

7. Reflections on Fame, Aging, and “Having it All”

• Both express gratitude for their journeys, highlight struggles and uncertainties, and how each other's qualities (Marcia’s “grounding," Kristin’s “light”) shaped them.
  [42:48] Marcia Cross: “I needed your light.”
  [42:49] Kristin Davis: “Thank you. That’s nice.”

8. New Chapters: Theater and Family

• Marcia is back to her theater roots, starring in Honor at the brand new Ruskin Theater in Santa Monica.
• They discuss the immediate feedback and “feeding” nature of theater versus the delayed payoff of television.

[38:49] Kristin Davis: “And you're currently doing a play, which I also love... I just want to mention that really quick before we ever talk about Sex and the City.”
[39:02] Marcia Cross: “So, yeah. So I'm very happy about it.”

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“Sex and the City” Episode Segment: “Escape From New York”

(Timestamps approx. [40:13] onward)

• The LA double-episode ("Escape From New York") discussed as a nostalgic, slightly surreal look back at 90s/early 2000s LA and Hollywood culture.
• Reflections on the difference between scripted LA life and their lived experience—e.g., the Standard Hotel, Playboy Mansion, and the iconic blue Mustang.
• Filming anecdotes: Sarah Jessica Parker having to drive a stick-shift Mustang (“some stress, and they had to roll down a hill...” [46:29]), filming at the “Whiskey Ranch” bar with the mechanical bull.
• The challenges and quirks of shooting on location in LA versus New York, and the authentic thrill of working on legendary studio lots.
• Marcia's daughter is now watching Sex and the City, noting the generational reach of the show.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Marcia Cross: “You never did a scene just to do a scene. You did a scene to save your life.” [08:07]
• Kristin Davis: “It made you feel like, yes, I can do it. It can be done. Right. This is the way to do it.” [25:34]
• Marcia Cross (on predicting SatC’s success): “This is going to change your life, because I knew the people involved were good. And it was a great idea.” [28:01]
• Marcia Cross (on theater): “It feeds you as you’re doing it... It’s not like in the trailer and then you watch it later.” [39:56]
• Kristin Davis: “I just spent like three solid years with Marcia Cross... Thank God, right? I'm so thankful for that time that there was someone who I could trust...” [16:16]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [04:14 – 05:47] Reminiscing about the 90s, early career anxieties
• [07:07 – 09:47] Lessons from Roy London and acting philosophy
• [13:14 – 14:28] Quirky friendship habits and mutual influence
• [23:03 – 24:43] Behind the scenes at Melrose Place, scene partner dynamics
• [28:01 – 29:04] Marcia predicts Sex and the City will change Kristin’s life
• [38:49 – 40:13] Marcia’s return to theater and current projects
• [40:13 – 46:51] Detailed discussion on SATC’s LA episodes and filming stories
• [42:48 – 44:14] Reflections: friendship, gratitude, and women’s stories

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Tone and Style

The conversation is warm, candid, and infused with gratitude and humor. Both women share mutual admiration, teasing, and genuine affection, enveloped in a reflective tone that values vulnerability and honesty. Their exchange offers rare insight into the realities of women’s friendships in Hollywood—and their lasting influence, both on and off the screen.

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Conclusion

This episode is much more than a "rewatch" or a behind-the-scenes diary—it's a heartfelt look at the power of friendship, the lasting lessons of great mentors, and the unpredictable journey of life and career in Hollywood. Marcia and Kristin invite listeners into an intimate space of reminiscence, offering encouragement (“take a breath, everything’s going to be fine”) and wisdom for anyone pursuing a path in the arts, or navigating big changes and uncertainties.

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For more stories and part two of this conversation, stay tuned to “Are You A Charlotte?”

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Transcript

[Podcast Host]

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[Kristen Davis]

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[Charlotte]

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[Charlotte]

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[Charlotte]

Today I have the most special guest. It's Marcia Cross, everybody.

[Kristen Davis]

I cannot wait for you to hear our conversation. I'm sure you all know Marcia.

[Charlotte]

Marcia is incredible. Her breakout role was in 1992 as.

[Kristen Davis]

Dr. Kimberly Shaw on Melrose Place.

[Charlotte]

We were on the show together, and then she became hugely well known as Brie Vanderkamp on Desperate housewives, where Kyle MacLachlan played her husband. I mean, the connections that I have with this woman go back so far, and we're gonna have a lot, a lot, a lot of fun.

[Kristen Davis]

So thanks for joining us.

[Charlotte]

Okay, everybody, it's so exciting. Joining us on Are youe with Charlotte? Is the amazing, the fantastic Marcia Cross.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, my God. I just thought, am I a Charlotte? No. But I've always wanted to be a Charlotte.

[Charlotte]

We can get to that at the end. Okay. Put a pin in that.

[Kristen Davis]

I will remember to get back there.

[Charlotte]

Okay.

[Kristen Davis]

This is.

[Charlotte]

We are talking about one of the LA episodes. It's the first one. It's Escape from New York, and I've wanted to have Marcia on since the beginning that I started the podcast. And, you know, life has been taking her in many places. So I'm happy that there was a little opening that you could do this episode, because when I think of the 90s, I think of Marcia, because I spent literally, like, a huge chunk of the 90s with you running around Santa Monica. You know, we were filming up in Calabasas.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, yeah, that's right.

[Charlotte]

Right. We were trooping around Brentwood.

[Marcia Cross]

Yes.

[Charlotte]

I mean, apparently, occasionally going out into the world. Because there are pictures of us.

[Marcia Cross]

Yes, Yes. I love those pictures.

[Charlotte]

I'm like, oh, look at us.

[Marcia Cross]

We're babies. Totally.

[Charlotte]

And we did. But I did not feel like a baby at the time.

[Kristen Davis]

Did you?

[Marcia Cross]

Of course not.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Marcia Cross]

No. You don't feel like a baby. It's only later you go like, oh, my God, I was 12. Right, right.

[Charlotte]

I mean, I felt like we were, like, seasoned. Did you show more than me? You know what I mean?

[Marcia Cross]

I definitely did, right? Oh, yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Charlotte]

But now we look back on it, we're like, oh, we're little children.

[Marcia Cross]

I know what. What I could have told myself back then.

[Charlotte]

I know, I know. And people sometimes ask me that, like, what would you tell yourself? And I say that I would tell myself, you know, take a breath. Everything's gonna be fine.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah.

[Charlotte]

Because I just remember so much, kind of, like, angst.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah. I feel like my angst at that age was like, am I Gonna have a family. I feel like that was my big angst at the time.

[Charlotte]

For sure, for sure, for sure.

[Kristen Davis]

We talked a lot about men and.

[Charlotte]

Relationships and what we wanted and what we didn't want, and we were trying to figure all that out. But I think that's exactly what you should be doing.

[Marcia Cross]

I know, but I wish someone had told me that it was gonna be fine. There was so much pain I could have avoided. Of course.

[Charlotte]

No, of course. Of course. But I also feel, and I think this was more so for me than you. You know, am I gonna be successful? I think was probably my bigger thing at the time. I don't even think I wanted kids at the time.

[Kristen Davis]

Time.

[Charlotte]

I hadn't gotten there yet.

[Marcia Cross]

No, you hadn't. You had. You were. You're in a different place. I was free, but I was definitely.

[Charlotte]

I was very free.

[Marcia Cross]

Yes.

[Kristen Davis]

You know what I mean?

[Charlotte]

Free.

[Marcia Cross]

That's a word we could use, right?

[Charlotte]

Yes. Free. Yeah.

[Sponsor Voice]

Oh, no.

[Marcia Cross]

I was worried about being successful, too. Yeah. Yeah. I was very.

[Charlotte]

Yeah, we were pretty focused. I feel like.

[Marcia Cross]

Like it came from Roy, you know, we did. We did. Roy.

[Charlotte]

So, Roy London. Sometimes I forget to explain to our listeners. Sometimes I'm just, like, rolling with it and I'm like, oh, my God, they don't know who we're talking. So there was this incredible teacher, and we were both lucky enough to find ourselves there. His name was Roy London. He was really just a genius human being in so many ways.

[Kristen Davis]

And for me.

[Charlotte]

So I had come from New York, you'd gone to Juilliard. So Marcia had been classically trained, like in the old school way.

[Kristen Davis]

Right. Ready for Shakespeare?

[Marcia Cross]

Fantastic.

[Charlotte]

Yes, darling, totally. Which is what I'm doing now, don't forget, which is fantastic, but, like, not necessarily going to prepare you for television in the 90s.

[Marcia Cross]

Not exactly.

[Charlotte]

Right?

[Marcia Cross]

No.

[Charlotte]

And for me, I'd gone to Bill Esper at Rutgers, which was Meisner training, so a little bit less classics, but still pretty serious.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Charlotte]

And then I remember starting to audition in New York and just being like, I don't know what to do with these scripts. They'd give you these little tv, just one scene from a show, and you tried to make this good, and it was impossible. So when I came to la, I think I just heard on the Streets or whatever, you know, you should go check out Roy. And it was like just lightning in a bottle in that room.

[Marcia Cross]

Life changing, right?

[Charlotte]

Yeah.

[Marcia Cross]

All those people. I mean, the thing I loved about Roy, which we didn't really understand until after the fact, was I always tell people you never did a scene just.

[Kristen Davis]

To do a scene.

[Marcia Cross]

You did a scene to save your life. Yes. Like if you could never, like you had to. Everything. The stakes were always top, top, top. I always feel like that's where I learned to act in terms of putting it all together.

[Charlotte]

Yeah, yeah.

[Marcia Cross]

And I think everything changed for me after that. Like, that was it definitely.

[Charlotte]

Because he knew how, like. And also, do you remember when we would first get to class, he would just talk for a while.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, yeah, that's right. I forgot about that.

[Charlotte]

He had stories. He was just such a. He loved life and he was so full of life. And the stories were fascinating and there were lessons in the stories. Like one really weird lesson I just thought of recently because I had a different guest on who told me she fell in love with her co star and then he broke her heart. And I was like, yeah, see, that's a rule. Do you remember Roy used to be.

[Kristen Davis]

Like, don't your co star. Yeah.

[Marcia Cross]

Because it'll be gone.

[Charlotte]

Right. Save it for on screen. And then after you're done, you can do it.

[Marcia Cross]

Right, Right.

[Charlotte]

Because it's probably not going to work out.

[Marcia Cross]

Right.

[Charlotte]

That was a really good lesson, don't you think? I mean, he's so.

[Marcia Cross]

Right, right, right.

[Charlotte]

Like he lives on in us in so many ways. That was a kind of a trite, I guess, whatever. But I think it wasn't tried at.

[Marcia Cross]

All because you take all that chemical and all that stuff that's going on and it's that you can't do it, you're not doing it. That keeps it, you know, it's blah, blah, blah, rather than what if you do it and then you're like, oh, that was not what I wanted. And then you have to go recreate it the next day.

[Charlotte]

Definitely.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Charlotte]

It's hampered your actual creativity and the energetics of it. And I feel like that was the thing that Roy was so special about. And as you said he would, he taught us how to take a really lame scene on the page. Because obviously in film and tv, sometimes each scene art is not great. Right. And how to kind of put something on top of it that meant something to you in that moment where you.

[Kristen Davis]

Had stakes that may not even have.

[Charlotte]

Been in the scene. But it made it interesting.

[Marcia Cross]

Pretty much how I do all my work.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Charlotte]

It's amazing to think about.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah.

[Charlotte]

I did get in some trouble.

[Podcast Host]

Oh.

[Charlotte]

I mean, mostly on Melrose. I'm trying to think a little bit on the beginning of Sex and City because I'd Spent so many years auditioning and going to Roy. Like, I used to go to Roy four nights a week.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Charlotte]

We would just observe.

[Additional Guest or Sponsor Voice]

Right.

[Charlotte]

So you'd have one class that was yours, and then three nights that you'd audit. And you learned so much from watching him work with others that it was just a joy to go to.

[Marcia Cross]

I wish I could do it right now.

[Charlotte]

I know. Me, too. Roy, please be present with us.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah. Rory has since passed, and one of the reasons he was so brilliant was that he had aids and nobody knew it. And unfortunately, out of nowhere, it was.

[Charlotte]

Like, out of nowhere. Sudden, sudden, sudden, sudden.

[Kristen Davis]

So.

[Charlotte]

So upsetting.

[Marcia Cross]

So. Breaks my heart.

[Charlotte]

I know. Needless. It seems so needless when you think.

[Marcia Cross]

About it, because it seemed like it wasn't exactly in the throes of everything, right. When everybody was passing, it was like, you know, it was the night, you know, it felt like.

[Charlotte]

Yeah. It was much later.

[Marcia Cross]

Wait a second.

[Charlotte]

How is this 100%? And he really just was the most vibrant person.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, my God.

[Charlotte]

You would have never thought. Nothing sickly about him. Nothing. He was, like, full of.

[Kristen Davis]

Full.

[Charlotte]

Full of life. Anyway. No, I know. It's.

[Kristen Davis]

It's. It's.

[Marcia Cross]

Otherwise, everyone's going, like, writing it down.

[Charlotte]

Let's go find where London is with us in spirit and in our. In our memories and our hearts, thankfully.

[Marcia Cross]

But root of the thing is never the thing.

[Charlotte]

Yes. Good, good. And I remember the energy of us, like. Like the kind of. I mean, striving. Sounds like a negative word, but, like, the excitement.

[Marcia Cross]

No, we were dedicated. Right.

[Charlotte]

I love that.

[Marcia Cross]

Right.

[Kristen Davis]

Me, too.

[Charlotte]

It was really special. And the group of people who was there was amazing. And really, like, there was such energy in the room, you know? And whenever I would see one of them succeed, I'd be like, oh, what is that going?

[Marcia Cross]

I've taught a class lately, and I'm like, don't you. Where's all your stuff? This is not a play. Like, remember, we bring everything but the kitchen sink in.

[Charlotte]

Yes.

[Marcia Cross]

And then these kids come in and they don't have anything. And I'm like, you can't fold that crappy pretend laundry.

[Charlotte]

I don't ever want to see that again. I mean, I'm like, do something specific. That's so good.

[Marcia Cross]

But remember.

[Charlotte]

Yes. We never, ever phone it in like that. Oh, no.

[Kristen Davis]

We'd spend.

[Marcia Cross]

You know, we'd come in with, like, oh, my gosh.

[Charlotte]

We rehearsed, like, every day. Like, that was our lives. But when we weren't rehearsing, this is what I remember about Us. And this might have been when we had already been on Melrose.

[Kristen Davis]

I don't know.

[Charlotte]

But like, do you remember the magazine stands?

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, yeah.

[Charlotte]

And we. There were like two or three that were like our haunts. Right. You know, so like let's say we didn't have an audition or we didn't have a class or whatever. You know, we would like go to yoga and then we would go. Let's go by the magazine stand and they don't even exist anymore.

[Marcia Cross]

I know.

[Charlotte]

So crazy.

[Marcia Cross]

Not even those fun yoga schools too. Like, I know.

[Charlotte]

It was way back. It was way back before yoga. I mean, now there's a Yoga works on every corner. But like back in the day, you know, there were. There was one. One place on Montana. Yoga Works. The true yoga works. And people would say like, oh, is it a religion? I remember so many people asking me that.

[Marcia Cross]

Remember that for those.

[Charlotte]

Isn't that so. So, so different? I know that's really obvious. But it's like. And there was also. We would go down to the promenade.

[Kristen Davis]

And there was that.

[Charlotte]

That magazine stand in the middle. We would like get coffee.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh my God, I forgot about all about that place. All right, so you remember more.

[Charlotte]

I remember really random things.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay, random.

[Marcia Cross]

I'll tell you what I remember when I'm driving in my car. Cause Kristen used to always get in the car and she'd take her foot and put it up on the dashboard. I wasn't gonna show my black socks. I started doing it. And so I drive like that now. And there isn't a time I do it where I don't think of Kristen or I go, adorable.

[Kristen Davis]

There you go.

[Marcia Cross]

There's your.

[Charlotte]

Yeah, that's adorable. Can I tell you what I found out about myself? Because, yes, I still do it. And sometimes I take my shoe off. Right. So, you know, I can just put my barefoot up there. And it is kind of, I think, in some ways a southern thing. Right. Because like you would be, you know, that you, you know, cuz like you'd be out on the back roads or whatever.

[Marcia Cross]

You know what I'm saying? Now it has more meaning even.

[Charlotte]

Yeah. But I also cut a scan and I have scoliosis in my lower back. This is why it's comfortable.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, right, that makes sense.

[Charlotte]

Because it's twist. My lower is twisted. So I need to take the pressure off in the car.

[Marcia Cross]

Because you're in.

[Charlotte]

You can't really change your position.

[Marcia Cross]

Right.

[Charlotte]

So I just recently found this out.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, me too. Which I don't like, actually. I know I know, but not that we need to go down that road. But it's an interesting. Maybe that's why it's so comfortable.

[Charlotte]

I know.

[Kristen Davis]

I was.

[Charlotte]

I mean, it's. I still do it. You know what I mean? It's kind of a needed thing because you spend so much time in the car in la. That's so funny. What a random thing that you remember and.

[Kristen Davis]

Very true.

[Charlotte]

Very true, Marcia. Very true. I also remember.

[Kristen Davis]

So you had your adorable house.

[Marcia Cross]

I did. I still have it.

[Charlotte]

You still have it?

[Marcia Cross]

I have it, yeah.

[Charlotte]

Oh, my God, I love it. I still go to doctor. Oh, my God, you do? I do.

[Marcia Cross]

30 years later, had kids and they're all grown up. Yes.

[Charlotte]

They're going to Stanford and one graduated from Harvard.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah, I knew that was coming.

[Charlotte]

They're doing great. They're doing great.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah.

[Charlotte]

I still go to him and I drive by that house and I like, oh, the house.

[Marcia Cross]

I mean, it's rented, but.

[Charlotte]

Oh, good. That's so smart.

[Kristen Davis]

So smart.

[Marcia Cross]

I know. I just loved it. I could never sell it.

[Charlotte]

I know.

[Kristen Davis]

It's a good house.

[Charlotte]

Oh, it was a good house.

[Marcia Cross]

It's old.

[Podcast Host]

I know.

[Charlotte]

It's so sweet.

[Marcia Cross]

Me too.

[Charlotte]

And then I went and I rented a house that reminded me of your house, because I was like, this is what I should do. Like Marcia's. She knows what to do.

[Marcia Cross]

So I'm going to try to do house.

[Charlotte]

Do you remember this house?

[Marcia Cross]

Yes, of course I do. Yes.

[Charlotte]

They have totally redone it. It's unrecognizable. Sometimes we have to go a back way because I live not that far from there now. I go to my kids. Like, I used to live in that house, but it didn't look like that.

[Marcia Cross]

But.

[Charlotte]

But it was there in that spot. It's like a big two story thing now. But, you know, to me, you were like somebody who was already successful. To me, you seemed very grounded and, you know, knowledgeable. Right. And that's partly why I was like, I'm gonna, you know, I'm gonna try.

[Kristen Davis]

To learn from Marcia. Right.

[Charlotte]

Like, I don't know if I said that, but I know. I thought that.

[Marcia Cross]

No, but that's the sweetest thing ever.

[Charlotte]

It's true.

[Marcia Cross]

But I also.

[Charlotte]

You were not so much ahead of me that I felt like we couldn't relate. You know, we were in it and we liked the same things and we were interested in the same things, and I just remember it being like, fun. And I remember that when I did get sex in the city, people would say to us, you know, well, who spends this much time with your girlfriend? I was like, well, yeah, I just spent like three solid years with Marcia Cross, you know what I mean? And thank God, right? I'm so thankful for that time that there was someone who I could trust, you know, in the bigger situation that we were in, which is not like it was horrible, but it was, you know, unclear what was going to happen. You kind of needed an anchor.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah, I mean, I feel like I am an anchor. Yeah. I mean, I just feel like that way.

[Charlotte]

Yeah, in a great, great way. You are an anchor.

[Marcia Cross]

So you're very grounded and crazy at the same time. But yeah, I've got, I mean, crazy.

[Charlotte]

In the way that you need to be. You know what I'm saying?

[Kristen Davis]

Like.

[Charlotte]

Like you have enough of an understanding of human nature to play the different things that you have to play.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah. Yes I can.

[Charlotte]

My Hyundai Hot take this week is Matthew McConaughey being his utmost McConaughey self. I guess he was a last minute casting based on the fact that we wanted someone else that we maybe didn't get. I've got to get to the bottom of it all, but what I remember of Matthew is that he came and he ad libbed. And not only that, but there was apparently a glass coffee table in the set office and he jumped on it.

[Kristen Davis]

And shattered it.

[Charlotte]

Which I think is just so him. And when I watch it, I can 100% believe that he is a living and that Sarah Jessica is just honestly responding in the moment to whatever Matthew is saying or doing. And I really enjoyed watching the scene and I wanted to replay it again. So Matthew McConaughey my Hyundai hot Take Celebrating iconic moments, bold moves and unforgettable style.

[Kristen Davis]

Just like Hyundai, AG's holiday 2025 collection is here this season, AG explores the intersection of cinematic legacy and sartorial craftsmanship, drawing inspiration from the crews and directors behind the iconic spaghetti westerns of the 1960s. Set against the backdrop of Alabama Hills, a legendary location in film history, the the collection channels a sense of sun, bleached grit, timeless style and quiet confidence. This collection is a tribute to the makers behind the lens, the costume designers, cinematographers and directors whose understated off screen style helped shape on screen Legacy. The Holiday 2025 collection is available now at agjeans.com use code KRISTEN15 to take 15% off your next order. Even if you've shopped AG before, make every day feel epic in the all new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. The Palisade Hybrid is packed full of features Cutting edge tech. Up to an EPA estimated 619 miles of range on select trims and class leading interior space, the new Palisade Hybrid.

[Charlotte]

Is redefining what it means to drive an suv.

[Kristen Davis]

For starters, let's talk about interior space. It's class leading, which is just a fancy way of saying that the whole crew and everyone's going to be comfy. You've got seating for seven or eight passengers and yes, that available third row power seating that reclines. Game changer. There are available front and second row relaxation seats. Basically a spa day on wheels. And and an available class exclusive blind spot view monitor that shows you a video feed of your blind spot right in the dash. How smart is that? There's even an available class exclusive built in dash cam. So whether it's a scenic drive or someone cuts you off and pretends like it didn't happen, you've got the receipts. And if you're all about the sound experience like me, the available Bose 14 speaker audio system is going to blow you away. I also love the tech forward touches like standard 100 watt USB C ports because fast charging is non negotiable these days. And the standard passenger talk intercom that lets you chat with people in the back without yelling. Ah moms, you know what I'm talking about. Ready to upgrade your ride? Learn more about the Hyundai palisade@hyundai USA.com Call 562-314-4603 for complete details. Before all the algorithm fed blah and the endless sea of dupes, shopping used to feel more fun. But here's a confession. Are you a Charlotte listeners? You can find that fun feeling again on ebay. Because on ebay it's not just shopping, it's a full on fashion pursuit. And when you find the thing that adrenaline hit is real. I went on to ebay to look for a super special vintage jacket for Charlotte to wear to the gallery and I found the most amazing Mugler jacket.

[Charlotte]

And the costume department loved it and it felt so good and I still have it at home. Like when you score that rare Adidas.

[Kristen Davis]

Collab that's lived on your mood board or the Dior saddle bag that you.

[Charlotte]

Ripped right out of a magazine in 2007 and never got over.

[Kristen Davis]

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[Sponsor Voice]

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[Charlotte]

When I went to Melrose, when I got Melrose, which you were already there.

[Additional Guest or Sponsor Voice]

Right.

[Charlotte]

So you'd been there. I was there since the beginning, I think. Right.

[Marcia Cross]

Or not the beginning, but like at some point.

[Charlotte]

Yeah, right. Sooner than me, certainly, because I came kind of, kind of late, I think. I don't know how long it went, but whatever. And you know, you've been in Roy for so long.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Charlotte]

And I just wanted to be so good, you know what I mean? And I just wanted to, you know, like, do my best in a situation that didn't necessarily want that.

[Marcia Cross]

Correct. They wanted to get the shot. Let's go. Exactly.

[Charlotte]

Hurry up.

[Marcia Cross]

We got six more episodes we're shooting today. Exactly, exactly.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Charlotte]

And there were a few things that I did that I think back on where I'm like, I cannot believe I did these things. But it was all from the Roy perspective of like, you do what you have to do in a scene.

[Marcia Cross]

Yes.

[Charlotte]

Like, I was often working with Andrew Hsu, you know, who was more of a soccer player, you know, type of a personality, like athletic and to the point. And let's get it done.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Charlotte]

And I would mess with them in scenes. Like, I would mess with them to try to like get them like present or whatever. And I remember he'd get really mad at me and I feel really bad. Do you?

[Marcia Cross]

Well, yeah, I do that if I'm on stage. Like I was Doing, you know, I do something, and if the person starts to, like, zone out, you know, I don't stick to anything. I just get. I just go for that moment and, you know, grab them back. So.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Charlotte]

I think it's totally better. That makes me feel better because when I think back, I'm like, ooh, wow. He must have just been super irritated that he got this.

[Marcia Cross]

It probably brought him to life, you know, and got him out of his comfort zone. I thought so, yes.

[Charlotte]

I mean, I thought so. Right.

[Marcia Cross]

I'm totally in favor of it.

[Charlotte]

This is why we love Marsha. We have such similar sensibilities. So let's just recap a little bit before we talk about the episode.

[Marcia Cross]

Just Life.

[Charlotte]

So we're running around. It's the 90s. We're going to Roy, which is like, just joy. And you feel like. I think it bridged the gap between, like, okay, you're going on all these crazy auditions. You're driving here, you're driving there.

[Marcia Cross]

Remember all of it.

[Charlotte]

Like Warner Brothers. Oh, my God. I feel like I lived at that Warner Brothers castle.

[Marcia Cross]

You don't even understand where they get, like, four times a day, you get sides. Go home, do the. Drive there four times a day to change your outfit. Change your outfit. Put the stuff in the car, you know, oh, my God. And I had this crappy little red car, remember? And there was just no air conditioning. And, like, me too.

[Sponsor Voice]

Oh, yes, yes.

[Marcia Cross]

Anyway. Sorry.

[Charlotte]

Yes.

[Marcia Cross]

All of us, what we're doing.

[Kristen Davis]

And so you're in that.

[Charlotte]

Which is kind of hard.

[Marcia Cross]

Right.

[Charlotte]

But then you also have this joy of going to Roy that feels very connected, and he's working with people who are doing movies, and he's talking about the scripts, and it made you feel like, yes, I can do it. It can be done. Right.

[Kristen Davis]

Definitely.

[Charlotte]

This is the way to do it. And the way that it works and the way that it's fun.

[Marcia Cross]

Right.

[Charlotte]

Like, it had. It added fun to it. And I love that part. And I'm so, so thankful for him, you know, whole. The whole class being there. And then. So then we're up there. I get on the show. We're up there in Calabasas, wherever. The heck. Desert.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Charlotte]

Filming. Which was so freaky and weird.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah. It's not like that anymore.

[Kristen Davis]

No.

[Marcia Cross]

It's all built up. And I mean, I haven't been up there lately, but the times that I have been up there, I'm like, oh, my gosh.

[Kristen Davis]

Oh, really?

[Additional Guest or Sponsor Voice]

Wow.

[Charlotte]

All I remember is Target, which we called Target. That was the only Place to go at lunch.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah. So we did. Or it was 125 degrees.

[Kristen Davis]

Exactly.

[Charlotte]

Tried to be in your trailer. Yeah. It was really odd. And you had really no sense that you were doing something that was a big deal or whatever. It was very.

[Kristen Davis]

No.

[Charlotte]

Are you kidding?

[Marcia Cross]

No. Although I did pretend every time I did a scene like, okay, it's Scorsese and I'm Michelle Pfeiffer, and these are the stakes.

[Kristen Davis]

Smart.

[Marcia Cross]

Me and my.

[Kristen Davis]

Smart.

[Charlotte]

Listen, I tried over there. I tried. I don't think my. My things were as lofty. I was like, I'm gonna get Andrew Shu to, you know, pay attention to me. That's what I was thinking.

[Marcia Cross]

Well, that was your. That was your hill to climb. But I was crazy, so I. Good for you.

[Charlotte]

I had a big. But that's why you were incredible.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah.

[Charlotte]

So incredible. So. Oh, my God. Are you kidding? Super incredible scene. So then I. They kill me. And I remember, like, how did you die?

[Marcia Cross]

I don't remember.

[Charlotte]

I died. I died in the pool. I died in the pool.

[Kristen Davis]

Hold on.

[Charlotte]

I died in the pool, but I don't know why. I got drunk and I fell in the pool.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, that's great. I like that.

[Charlotte]

It was the best part of my whole character, the decade. And then they had. They weighted me down and had me sink in my hair. Oh, okay.

[Marcia Cross]

And that was. Yes. Yes.

[Charlotte]

Then I was a ghost.

[Marcia Cross]

That's right.

[Charlotte]

They weren't into this over there.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Charlotte]

Like, wacky things. Wacky things.

[Kristen Davis]

And then.

[Charlotte]

So then I get fired, but you're still on.

[Marcia Cross]

And then.

[Charlotte]

But I don't know for how. How long. But you're still living in your house. I'm still living in my house. I think we were still hanging.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah.

[Charlotte]

Right.

[Additional Guest or Sponsor Voice]

Yeah.

[Charlotte]

And then I, like, some time goes by where I don't know what's gonna happen, and then I get Sex and City.

[Marcia Cross]

I go off totally perfectly. You do.

[Charlotte]

Please tell.

[Marcia Cross]

Well, I just remember you getting the job. And I remember saying to you, this is going to change your life. No way. Oh, yes, you. Oh, yeah.

[Charlotte]

I don't remember that.

[Marcia Cross]

I knew. I was like, this is a big deal. And I said, this is going to change your life. Because I knew the people involved were good.

[Charlotte]

Right.

[Marcia Cross]

And it was a great idea. And it just, you know. You just know, like. Yes. I don't think I knew that about desperate, but I definitely didn't because that's.

[Charlotte]

The next thing that.

[Podcast Host]

About it.

[Marcia Cross]

Sex in the City.

[Charlotte]

Interesting.

[Marcia Cross]

Totally. Yeah.

[Charlotte]

I mean, I felt in my gut like I really wanted to Be a part of it. But I didn't necessarily feel that it.

[Kristen Davis]

Would be all that it came to be.

[Marcia Cross]

I remember saying it to you. You probably didn't like, you know, But I just remember. I even remember where I was standing. Maybe we're on the phone or something.

[Kristen Davis]

Wow.

[Marcia Cross]

Like, I remember I was in my little laundry area and my heart was like. I just remember.

[Kristen Davis]

Wow.

[Marcia Cross]

Saying it right there. Amazing.

[Charlotte]

And so thing soon after you get Desperate Housewives.

[Marcia Cross]

I don't know the timing because I have no trouble remember how it was.

[Charlotte]

Like, I don't have a great sense of time either. This podcast is actually helping me kind of categorize things. Yes. Because I can look at years like, oh, yes, this is 2000. I remember 2000 because it was the year before 2001, which is obviously a.

[Kristen Davis]

Very changing year for the world and.

[Charlotte]

Definitely for our country. But I. I feel so. This is what I remember. I remember you came to the. One of our LA premieres when we did such a thing. Low key. Premiere is loose word.

[Marcia Cross]

Right.

[Charlotte]

We would show two episodes. There's pictures of us there. We're showing our lower abdomen.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh my God. Really? Yes.

[Charlotte]

90S.

[Marcia Cross]

I'd like to see it now. Probably very flat.

[Charlotte]

It looks great. Let me tell you.

[Marcia Cross]

We both look great.

[Charlotte]

We both look great. And I know we didn't necessarily feel that way, but we look fantastic.

[Marcia Cross]

That's so sweet.

[Charlotte]

And then there's like funny pictures. This would have been Melrose type. I can put all these pictures on Instagram. When we. When we put this up, there's pictures of us. I think at a Melrose event. Might have been like the 100th episode.

[Marcia Cross]

That I do remember. Cuz I saw those pictures. Yeah. Yeah.

[Charlotte]

And you're like, yeah. I don't know what's happening in those, but I look like a child. Like a little child. I mean, cake or something. I don't know. And they repost them on Instagram as usual. Both being Kyle MacLachlan's fictional wives.

[Marcia Cross]

Yes, we. How about that? How crazy is that? Insane.

[Charlotte]

Which I like in a certain way. I don't know that I was ever fully aware. You know what I mean? Like.

[Marcia Cross]

Like the.

[Charlotte]

The craziness that he comes on our show. He was only supposed to do five. We can't part with him. We love him so much. Then he leaves our show. He comes to your show. He was only supposed to do one season. He told us.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, really? I don't even know that he was supposed to.

[Charlotte]

To be the killer.

[Podcast Host]

I love Kyle.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah.

[Charlotte]

He was supposed to be the killer, apparently.

[Marcia Cross]

I had no idea.

[Charlotte]

I know, Me neither. This is what he told us when he came on the pod. And then he said, no, I love this job. I want to stay.

[Marcia Cross]

It was great.

[Charlotte]

It's so great that you got him and that he stayed for so long.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah, it was wonderful. I wish he never had to go.

[Charlotte]

I know.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah, I know.

[Charlotte]

And I remember like that show, it seemed like you aired and it was a huge hit, like immediately that was true.

[Marcia Cross]

That was the case.

[Charlotte]

Right. And then we were at these events and I was like, there's Marsha. Yeah.

[Marcia Cross]

Life went on big time.

[Kristen Davis]

Right? Wow.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah.

[Charlotte]

What was that experience like for you? Like, did you think, like, oh. Cause you told me you had already gone back to school.

[Marcia Cross]

Right. But so yeah, I had been. After Melrose, I was not happy because I would only get a certain kind of audition, a certain kind. And I thought, I really don't want to do bad TV for the rest of my life. Like, that is not going to be my life. Totally. So I had been going to classes at Antioch just because I was interested in. And then at some point I realized, oh my God, I have all these credits. All I have to do is my clinical hours and I can get my degree. So I started doing my clinical hours and it was kind of fabulous. And then I remember, I thought, okay, well, I guess that's it for me because I just couldn't imagine, like, I don't want to, you know, no offense, but wasn't my. My path was just not going to happen? So. My God, your little socks are so cute. Anyway, yeah, this is how it was.

[Charlotte]

Talk about yourself.

[Additional Guest or Sponsor Voice]

Talk about myself.

[Charlotte]

You wanted to distract, but I want to hear. I know.

[Marcia Cross]

That was just totally add me. And then.

[Podcast Host]

Yeah.

[Marcia Cross]

And then I remember going to Warner Brothers and I remember looking down the hallway and saying, okay, this is the last time I'm here and auditioning for Everwood. And then they called me back and I was like, I still didn't think anything of it. I still thought that was it. And I had a girlfriend, she was.

[Charlotte]

Like, no, no, this is a good show.

[Marcia Cross]

You need to work on it. So I worked on it and then I got it and then I wound up in Utah and I was in Salt Lake City. And then I still thought I wanted to have a baby by myself. And like I was still in that family thing and. And so they wanted me to audition for Desperate Housewives. And I read and I said, well, I want to audition for the narrator because I want to have a baby. I want to adopt a baby.

[Kristen Davis]

Wow.

[Marcia Cross]

So I go in and then Mark Jerry said, no, I want you to read for Brie. So. Okay. So anyway, that's that. And then once I got that, that was the end of, you know, then I was off and running and. And haven't looked back. Although I loved getting my degree and I, you know, I'm always fascinated with people and humans and psychology.

[Kristen Davis]

So yes, that is super interesting. AG's holiday 2025 collection is here. This season, AG explores the intersection of cinematic legacy and sartorial craftsmanship. Drawing inspiration from the crews and directors.

[Charlotte]

Behind the iconic spaghetti westerns of the 1960s. How exciting.

[Kristen Davis]

Set against the backdrop of Alabama Hills, a legendary location in film history, the collection channels a sense of sun, bleached grit, timeless style and quiet confidence. This collection is a tribute to the makers behind the lens. The costume designers, cinematographers and directors whose understated off screen style helped shape on screen legacy. Italian fabrications are at the forefront, paired with western inspired detailing and elevated utility pieces. Shirt jackets, layered textures and modern silhouettes that make a statement without trying too hard. Denim remains the foundation, but it's reimagined with texture, depth and timeless wearability that define AG's DNA. The Holiday 2025 collection is available now at aggeens.com use code KRISTIN15 to take 15% off your next order. Even if you've shopped AG before, cool. Make every day feel epic in the all new Hyundai Palisade Hybrid. The Palisade Hybrid is packed full full of features, cutting edge tech, up to an EPA estimated 619 miles of range on select trims and class leading interior space. The new Palisade Hybrid is redefining what it means to drive an suv. For starters, let's talk about interior space. It's class leading, which is just a fancy way of saying that the whole crew and everyone's going to be comfy. You've got seating for seven or eight passengers and yes, that available third row power seating that reclines. Game changer. There are available front and second row relaxation seats. Basically a spa day on wheels. And an available class exclusive blind spot view monitor that shows you a video feed of your blind spot right in the dash. How smart is that? There's even an available class exclusive built in dash cam. So whether it's a scenic drive or someone cuts you off and pretends like it didn't happen, you've got the receipts. And if you're all about the sound experience like me, the available Bose 14 speaker audio system is going to blow you away. I also love the tech forward touches like standard 100 watt USB C ports because fast charging is non negotiable. These and the standard passenger talk intercom that lets you chat with people in.

[Charlotte]

The back without yelling.

[Kristen Davis]

Ah moms, you know what I'm talking about. Ready to upgrade your ride? Learn more about the Hyundai [e-mail] Call 562-314-4603 for complete details. Before all the algorithm fed blah and the endless sea of dupes, shopping used to feel more fun. But here's a confession. Are you a Charlotte listeners? You can find that fun feeling again on ebay. Because on ebay it's not just shopping, it's a full on fashion pursuit. And when you find the thing that adrenaline hit is real. I went on to ebay to look for a super special vintage jacket for Charlotte to wear to the gallery and I found the most amazing Mugler jacket.

[Charlotte]

And the costume department loved it and it felt so good and I still have it at home. Like when you score that rare Adidas.

[Kristen Davis]

Collab that's lived on your mood board or the Dior saddle bag that you.

[Charlotte]

Ripped right out of a magazine in 2007 and never got over.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah, those. It's about the thrill and the pursuit of finding those pieces that feel like you. There's always more to discover. Ebay has millions of pre loved finds from hundreds of brands backed by ebay. Authenticity guarantee eBay things people love Support.

[Sponsor Voice]

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[Charlotte]

And you're currently doing a play, which I also love. I just want to mention that really quick before we ever talk about Sex City.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah, that's so fun. That's what I wanted to do. So I feel like I've spent my whole life getting back to my original dream.

[Charlotte]

Right.

[Marcia Cross]

You know, that's, you know, so, yeah. So I'm very happy about it.

[Kristen Davis]

Amazing.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah. Let me just say it really quick. So I don't, you know, it's at the Ruskin Theater in Santa Monica, which they just built a brand new theater, two little spaces, which I just love. And it's called Honor and I'm Honor. Although it's not all about me, but yeah. And it opens February 14th.

[Kristen Davis]

Amazing.

[Charlotte]

I'm so happy they built a new theater in Santa Monica.

[Marcia Cross]

We need theater. So happy. I got to work in the ocean. Old one was this tiny little place that had been like there for 20 years. And I mean, you'd work and you literally. People have to uncross their legs. It was so tiny. So it was just brilliant place to work. And I got to do Johnny Robbie Bates play there, and he came and that was wonderful. And. And now, you know, we're upgrading to this new theater.

[Kristen Davis]

Wow. Wow. Yeah.

[Charlotte]

Love it, love it, love it so much. Theater is a very. It's like a feeding. It feeds you as you're doing it.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, yeah, yeah. It's not like in the trailer and then you watch it later. It's like, that's, you know. So anyway, so that's my happy world right now.

[Charlotte]

Okay. So that's wonderful. And thank you for giving us a full update. So let's talk about the show. It's going to be hard because life is so much more interesting to talk about, but we're going to.

[Kristen Davis]

We're going to.

[Charlotte]

Because this is a Rewatch podcast. I have to remind myself. Let me ask you this question, because.

[Kristen Davis]

I don't even know.

[Charlotte]

I don't even know for sure. Did you watch the show when it was happening or were you too busy.

[Marcia Cross]

Working your show or my show?

[Charlotte]

My show. I assume you watched your own show. Did you?

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, yes.

[Kristen Davis]

Okay.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah. Because I think it was going on before. Yeah. There were shows that were more at the same time as mine that I totally miss because, you know, when you're like, you can't even see straight and I have babies, I'm like, oh, I missed that whole decade. But no, no, No, I saw. Yeah. And now. Oh, my daughter told me to tell you that. That she's now watching, and she's a big fan, that she's going to school in North Carolina. And guess what, Kristen? I was like, oh, my God, I understand. I know you're from South Carolina. I was like, oh, my God, I understand Kristin so much better now, having just been to the state.

[Charlotte]

Yeah.

[Marcia Cross]

Like, you really understand.

[Charlotte]

I know.

[Marcia Cross]

I mean, the girls are so, like. They're like you, like, they're feminine and they're really. No, really.

[Charlotte]

The funny thing about it is that when I was growing up in South Carolina, I was the oddball because I wasn't blonde. And, you know, my mom is not, you know, super Southern.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Charlotte]

She kind of is now. But, like, her, you know, she was feminist, and she, you know, she had her vibe going on.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Marcia Cross]

And it was.

[Charlotte]

She didn't wear makeup or anything like that. But all my girlfriends, moms were, like, decked, you know, Gorgeous. All of them were gorgeous. I was like this dark, you know, gorgeous. Well, thank you. Please. Dark, you know, compared to them. You know what I'm saying?

[Marcia Cross]

You know, they're all blonde.

[Charlotte]

It does look curly, and. You know what I'm saying? And so I always felt like, oh, I've got to get out of here. You know? But I do think it had a really big, big influence on me, definitely. And sometimes I feel like when people are like, you know, why is she so animated? Or, you know, why does she wave her hands around so much? I'm like, they've just never been to the South.

[Marcia Cross]

Well, I always thought with us. Sorry. I know we talk about the show because I'm, you know, from New England and, like, you know, like, my mother was like, God forbid we should take up any space. So I get around you, and you're like. And I'm just, like, enthralled, like always, you know, so don't let anybody say that about you.

[Charlotte]

You're so sweet.

[Kristen Davis]

Thank you for that.

[Charlotte]

But I think that's also why we like as. When I think about my different girlfriends who, like, I knew, especially in those kind of formative earlier years, there's always something where I am wanting, like, a quality they have, like, learning from them. And you're grounding your new. It's a New England thing, too. It's like a New England, like, part of the earth, like, strong, you know, I needed to be around that.

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah. You know, I needed your light.

[Kristen Davis]

Thank you. That's nice.

[Marcia Cross]

I love you. Love you, too. It's so amazing to have a podcast.

[Charlotte]

So that I can have people on that I need to see.

[Marcia Cross]

It's amazing.

[Charlotte]

I know. You're an incredible person.

[Marcia Cross]

You really are, too.

[Charlotte]

You really are.

[Marcia Cross]

Thanks, babe. Very happy your life has turned out the way it has.

[Charlotte]

I'm so happy that yours has, too. I mean, not that we haven't been through stuff.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, my God.

[Charlotte]

Oh, right.

[Kristen Davis]

For sure. Right.

[Charlotte]

But you know what?

[Marcia Cross]

Here we are.

[Kristen Davis]

Here we are.

[Marcia Cross]

It's life. I mean, there's no life that goes on without it, so.

[Charlotte]

No, no, that's the truth. And just because this is what it reminds me of when we did it. Just like, that people would be like, why are they doing this? Why are they doing that? I'm like, do they not know what happens in life?

[Marcia Cross]

Maybe they don't. Or maybe they don't want to. They want to escape or something.

[Charlotte]

I don't want to face it.

[Marcia Cross]

For sure. That's life. Right? I mean.

[Charlotte]

Right?

[Marcia Cross]

Yeah, it's just. I just did a little thing in New York called pen pals, and it was women across 50 years that are writing to each other.

[Kristen Davis]

Amazing.

[Marcia Cross]

And it looked very like, kind of light on the page, but when you do it, there wasn't a dry eye in the house, including the two actresses. Because life happens just next to ordinary people's lives, you know?

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Marcia Cross]

Husband's death, cancers, children.

[Charlotte]

Yes.

[Marcia Cross]

You know, all of it and just life.

[Kristen Davis]

Absolutely.

[Charlotte]

Absolutely.

[Marcia Cross]

Yes, yes, yes. We're lucky to be here to live it.

[Charlotte]

We are lucky to be here to live it. No, I like it.

[Marcia Cross]

I really like it. Well, we're gonna talk about the show.

[Charlotte]

We're gonna talk about the show. And the thing that I like, when I looked at this episode and the other episode, I really feel like the two LA episodes are just one episode. So it's really hard to keep straight what happens and what. But they're so interesting for two reasons. One, you know, I was living here before the show, right? Like, I lived in New York, but then I was living here and I had to go back there and I was. Still had my house here at the point that we come back and do this, I was so excited to come back. I was like, oh, thank God we're gonna film in la. But of course, we filmed all night long. And they'd just send me home and they'd be like, go sleep for two hours and come back at 3am I was like, oh, my God. Yeah, you know, but this is what you did. This is what you did. Then go where you go. But, like, you know, I was not someone who was going to the Standard Hotel.

[Marcia Cross]

You know what I'm saying? No, you were not.

[Charlotte]

No.

[Kristen Davis]

Right.

[Marcia Cross]

So that wasn't.

[Charlotte]

But it was fun because that's the show. And, you know, it was fascinating to see and, you know, God rest his soul, it was a fun place.

[Marcia Cross]

Yes, yes.

[Charlotte]

Like, you know, it was. It was good. The Playboy Mansion, on the other hand, more complicated place.

[Marcia Cross]

Never been there. See, me neither.

[Kristen Davis]

Never been there.

[Charlotte]

Right. Except filming. And they tried to make us go to the Midsummer night's party. We had Holly Madison coming up to talk to us.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, my God.

[Charlotte]

I know, right? But it was so complicated because for me, at the time, I understood why our writers wanted us to go there and that. It makes sense. And at the time, it was being billed as, like, a empowering thing for women to be free with their sexuality. But, like, to me, it was, like, kind of ick and weird and being there. There were all those feelings, of course.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, my God, yes. And decades of them. Like, I mean, the history. Right. Yes.

[Charlotte]

And the weird vibes of the history. You know what I'm saying? And we have a great talk with Holly coming up about that. But in the thing that I love watching the episode, there's such a lightness and the colors and especially because we come here and it frees us to really go.

[Marcia Cross]

Yes, that's true.

[Charlotte]

And she's that bright blue Mustang, you know, it's so gorgeous, so fantastic for us, right?

[Marcia Cross]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Charlotte]

I mean, whenever we see a vintage Mustang, I tell my kids, and they're like, mom, it's so old. And I'm like, no, no, that is a classic.

[Marcia Cross]

There's nothing better than that car.

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[Charlotte]

But at the time, you know, it was also stress because Sarah Jessica had to drive it, and it wasn't.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, my God, Was it a stick? I don't know how to drive stick, so.

[Charlotte]

Me neither. She didn't either. No, it was some stress. It was some stress. And they did have to roll down a hill, like, in the sea, which they shortened because I think we had. I think they wanted, you know, that hill on La Cienega that really.

[Kristen Davis]

Yes.

[Charlotte]

Yeah, it was that hill, supposedly. And then I think it was too stressful because they couldn't steep, right. And they couldn't stop all the cars. And so they were trying to.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, my God.

[Charlotte]

It was bad. Yeah, it was bad. So then went to some little side street, which was much more manageable. And then we filmed, like, you know, when they go to the. What's the place called On Sunset with a bull.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlotte]

Not the Whiskey Ranch. Thank you so much, Hannah. I mean, incredible.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, my God. And did you ever go there? Fabulous on that bowl.

[Charlotte]

She's so great on that bowl.

[Marcia Cross]

I don't know. Did you ever try that?

[Kristen Davis]

No.

[Marcia Cross]

Did you? I think I'd break my hip now. I know.

[Charlotte]

Me too. Me, too. But, like, we just weren't doing stuff like that.

[Marcia Cross]

I love. That's the great thing about when you get thrown into these circumstances. Probably with her, too. It's like, okay, here we go. And then you see it 100%, and you're like, oh, I guess I'm riding the bull, right?

[Charlotte]

Definitely. But, I mean, she really did get on that thing.

[Kristen Davis]

Yeah, she did.

[Charlotte]

I think I was there that day because Charlotte misses the one episode, but then she comes for the other. But because I live here and I was so excited, I would, like, go, you know, to see or whatever. And then I was like, this thing's crazy in here. I'm gonna leave. Cynthia's fine.

[Marcia Cross]

You know what I mean? She's fine.

[Charlotte]

She's obviously so brave and does it all, but it's so great how they cut to the slow mo of it all.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, it's really good.

[Charlotte]

It's really good. And I think, like, the. Like, when Carrie, you know, almost said sarah Jessica is going to Warner Brothers, I mean, it just brought that.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, my God.

[Kristen Davis]

Me too.

[Marcia Cross]

Oh, my God. I was like, every drive on there, and then when the guard says something, I'm like, wait a second. Did he send her to the public parking lot? You know, I know. I was going through my thoughts, too.

[Charlotte]

I was like, oh, she's gonna be lost. She is gonna be lost like they should have really had. I love how then she finds the New York street on the lot.

[Marcia Cross]

Yes, yes.

[Charlotte]

And of course, it doesn't really look like New York, and it's totally empty, and it is such a surreal, surreal place over there, but it's still there. And, you know, I hope that whoever gets a hold of Warner Brothers.

[Marcia Cross]

Don't you love that we've got to be on all those lots? Even though, like, you know, we're dragging our stuff and auditioning. It's like, I love all those memories.

[Kristen Davis]

Me, too. Me too.

[Charlotte]

Me, too. You guys, this is so much fun that we are going to have to.

[Kristen Davis]

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