The Long and the Short of it with Mickey Guyton... (S3 E2 "Politically Erect")

Summary

Podcast Summary: “The Long and the Short of It with Mickey Guyton… (S3 E2 'Politically Erect')”

Podcast: Are You A Charlotte?
Host: Kristin Davis
Guest: Mickey Guyton
Release Date: October 29, 2025

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Overview

In this episode, Kristin Davis (Charlotte from Sex and the City) sits down with country singer Mickey Guyton to dissect the “Sex and the City” Season 3, Episode 2 (“Politically Erect”). The duo touches on the episode's infamous "pee" storyline, on-set mishaps, how the series tackled taboo topics, the obsession with height in dating, and how their own lives parallel (or diverge from) that of the characters—especially Charlotte. The conversation is candid, funny, and nostalgic, blending personal anecdotes with critical reflections on the show's ongoing cultural resonance.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Behind the Scenes: Filming “Politically Erect”

• Big Hair & Political Parties

  • Kristin recalls the party scene where the ladies wore "big hair" to a political fundraiser, joking about its relevance today as “political party outfit” style.
  • [04:10] Kristin Davis: “Is it? Oh, my God. It kind of is, isn’t it?”
  • Kristin’s “no teasing rule” for her hair may have originated from this episode’s styling ordeal.

• On-Set Mishap

  • Kristin recounts accidentally tripping on a rolled-up carpet and falling into an extra during filming, scratching him with her diamond earrings.
  • [06:22] Kristin Davis: “I just put my toe into it and just fell. Hardcore fell right into this guy who was playing a waiter like an extra. And my earrings scratched this guy so badly that he bled. Blood was shed."
  • The show generally avoided including bloopers: “We were just trying to have dignity within what we were doing.” [07:24]

Revisiting the Episode's Plots

• Charlotte's Hopefulness and Disappointments

  • Charlotte, ever the romantic, attends a political party looking for her next husband, only to be let down.
  • Kristin is surprised at how young Elizabeth Banks looked in her cameo and shares stories about recognizing guest stars only retroactively.

• The 'Short King' Storyline

  • Samantha dates a confident but short man, leading to ongoing discussions about height biases in dating ("short king" discourse).
  • The party theme—bring an ex you’re not into—sparked real-life reminiscing, with both Kristin and Mickey sharing humorous experiences about meeting men unexpectedly (including through car windows).
  • [12:49] Mickey Guyton: "Listen, if you're short and you're packing down there, you'd have that confidence too."
  • Samantha ultimately gives the relationship a try after the man assures her he’s worth it (“One hour in bed with me and you’ll be happy…”).
  • The duo debates who the party's host was (Charlotte or Samantha?) and bemoans the poor party etiquette (hookups on Charlotte’s bed!).

• The Height Debate

  • Kristin and Mickey dissect the cultural preference for tall partners, noting most dating apps’ filters (women reportedly set 6 ft. as the baseline).
  • [16:10] Kristin Davis: "I read something the other day about women on the apps… they all put 6 as the minimum. And it rules out so many men that are probably great."
  • They agree it's time to "let it go" and acknowledge many of their own relationships have been with shorter men.

Sex, Honesty & Dating Realities

• Carrie’s “To Pee or Not to Pee” Dilemma

  • The main episode topic: Carrie's politician boyfriend asks her to pee on him during sex. Kristin and Mickey marvel at how skillfully Sarah Jessica Parker plays Carrie’s subtle repulsion and attempts at compromise (not drinking water at dinner to avoid the situation).
  • [39:30] Kristin Davis: “And then it says her headline of the column is 'To pee or not to pee. That is the question.'”
  • The conversation naturally segues into personal strategies for dodging unwanted sex early in dating, from faking a period to the psychological “tests” women apply to see if men are comfortable with women’s bodies.

• Navigating Taboo Topics

  • Both reflect on how the show pushed boundaries, discussing things that even today can feel risky to address openly.
  • Kristin observes, "It's so horribly relevant to today, in a way… people want different things, you know, in sex. That's cool. And I do feel that Carrie is pretty understanding." [40:40]

Life Immitating Art: Character vs. Actress

• Charlotte vs. Kristin Davis

  • Kristin addresses the public misconception that she is as “nice” or “submissive” as Charlotte, clarifying she’s actually quite different (and that men expecting a demure Charlotte often get confused).
  • [27:12] Kristin Davis: “I don't personally actually think Charlotte is that submissive. She's not… she's a perfectionist. Right.”
  • Both Kristin and Mickey agree that laughter—and men who make them laugh—has been a constant in their real dating lives, more so than any specific “type.”

• Relationship Dynamics & Power

  • Harry (Charlotte's later husband) is praised for his “sharing of the power.” Kristin remembers filming a monologue-heavy marital spat and not being able to tell if co-star Evan Handler was truly angry or just acting.

The Impact of Social Media

• Kristin says the show thrived in a pre-social-media era, speculating whether it would have survived today’s instant feedback “nitpicking.”
  • [28:48] Kristin Davis: “I think we wouldn’t have had that success if we had social media. Because now social media, everybody nitpicks everything… It’s too much.”

Light-Hearted Digressions

• Christmas Music & Parenting

  • Mickey plugs her Christmas album, reflects on how having children reinvigorated her love for the holiday.
  • Both reminisce over the magic of childhood Christmases.

• China Tours & Phone Booths

  • Mickey shares her touring experiences in China—including chaotic traffic and lack of personal space.
  • Kristin reminisces about enduring the early-2000s flip phone era and the now-nostalgic notion of payphones, even recommending a kids’ book: "The Last Phone Booth."

• Which “Sex and the City” Character Are You?

  • Kristin and Mickey both identify as a blend between Charlotte (moral compass) and Carrie (broken hearts), with Mickey slyly admitting to choosing her own “Mr. Big” (although “he was Mr. Little because he wasn’t big!”).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On-set blooper revelation:

  • “I just put my toe into it and just fell. Hardcore fell right into this guy who was playing a waiter like an extra. And my earrings scratched this guy so badly that he bled. Blood was shed.”
    — Kristin Davis [06:22]

• On short men owning their presence:

  • “Listen, if you're short and you're packing down there, you'd have that confidence too.”
    — Mickey Guyton [12:49]

• On modern dating standards:

  • “I read something the other day about women on the apps… they all put 6 as the minimum. And it rules out so many men that are probably great.”
    — Kristin Davis [16:10]

• On sex and bodily acceptance:

  • “I wanted them to be like, it doesn't bother me. That's how I would know that they were cool. Is that crazy?”
    — Kristin Davis, about how men react to periods [37:55]

• On why laughter beats types:

  • “I know that all those people made me laugh. Yeah. That's what's the same about them, because they don't seem very similar when you look at them, but I know that they all made me laugh.”
    — Kristin Davis [25:40]

• On the ongoing relevance of SATC:

  • “It's so horribly relevant to today, in a way.”
    — Kristin Davis [40:40]

• On being “a Charlotte”:

  • “Her moral compass was the most … but then, you know, I could—I've broken some hearts like Carrie.”
    — Mickey Guyton [47:37]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [03:52] — Episode intro: Kristin sets up the “Politically Erect” theme: behind the scenes, big hair, the role of politics in the episode.
• [06:22] — On-set mishap: Kristin’s epic fall and scratched extra.
• [09:55] — Real-life “bring an ex” party stories.
• [12:49] — The “short king” storyline, dating height politics.
• [16:10] — Height expectations in the dating world.
• [25:40] — Why laughter is more important than physical type in love.
• [27:12] — Kristin distinguishes herself from Charlotte and talks about power dynamics with Harry.
• [28:48] — Social media’s impact on TV production, then vs. now.
• [35:10–41:35] — Carrie’s “pee” dilemma, self-acceptance, and navigating sexual boundaries in dating.
• [42:00] — Discussion of Mickey’s Christmas album and motherhood.
• [45:54] — Memories of payphones, China travel stories.
• [47:10] — “Are you a Charlotte?” segment; Mickey and Kristin share their own SATC archetypes.

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Tone and Atmosphere

Authentic, humorous, nostalgic, and raw—the hosts bring a warmth and honesty as they toggle between laughter, light self-mockery, and meaningful reflections. Fan culture, 2000s nostalgia, and candid “girl talk” abound, all delivered with the optimistic, supportive tone SATC fans expect.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a fast-paced, laughter-filled, and highly personal journey through one of the show’s most outrageous episodes. It dives into both the “Sex and the City” universe and the real, sometimes messy realities that inspired (and still resonate with) women then and now. You don’t need to have just rewatched the episode to enjoy the personal stories, industry-insider memories, and candid takes on love, sex, and self-acceptance in a changing world.

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Transcript

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Hi, I'm Kristin Davis, and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Okay, everyone, welcome back to Are youe a Charlotte? This is part two with Mickey Guyton. We are breaking down episode 302 about politics. That's all I'm going to say. I only have one memory from this whole show for Charlotte. Okay. And it's a weird one. So there's a scene where Carrie invites the girls to go to a political fundraiser for Slattery's character. And we all have big hair, which is really interesting to me that that's our perception of how, like, a political party outfit should be, because it is that today. Is it? Oh, my God. It kind of is, isn't it? Oh, my God. I didn't even think of that. That is so true. I didn't even think of that. It's like, weirdly, like, someone teased my hair, which I really have, like a no teasing rule. But apparently back then, maybe that's how I got that rule was that episode. I have like a big poofy hairdo and I'm we borrowed diamonds. I can tell that people are starting to lend us jewelry. Cause I've got some big earrings on and in this particular scene, it's Samantha, Carrie, Charlotte in a row at the end of a table. And they're filming across the table at us. And we're drinking and we're looking at the people at the party, and we're talking about the men. And I am talking about how, you know, this is a great place to meet people.

[Kristin Davis]

You were so excited.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I know. Charlotte was ready excited, man. She's very excited at all times. Totally, totally. So then I say something like, I'm gonna mingle or whatever. And I remember that what Michael Patrick had told me to do was to leave. Like, walk out of the scene with a lot of purpose. Like, I've got my drink. I think. I think I have my drink. Maybe I didn't even have my drink. I just walk off. And I was supposed to be, like, walking towards my next husband. Because this is when we start that Charlotte really wants to get married, right? Like, hardcore wants to get married. So he told me to do this. And I don't know how many sets you've been on or whatever, but they do funky things, like, for the camera track. So, yeah, that was, like, a whole dynamic dining room. And they had rolled up the carpet for the camera to be at the end to film us, but I had to walk in that direction. So I'm trying to walk and, like, look for my, you know, potential next husband, like, out in the distance. And the big old camera. Sorry, carpet roll was, like, right there. And I just put my toe into it and just fell. Hardcore fell right into this guy who was playing a waiter like an extra. And my earrings scratched this guy so badly that he bled. Like, I fell into him so hard that my diamond earring, like, scratched him all the way down.

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But luckily it did not rip my ear out, thank God. But my diamonds scratched this poor guy. I don't remember his name. And blood. Blood was shed. And I was, okay, show yourself. Exactly. Show yourself on Instagram. But I. You know, and then I was just, of course, so mortified. And, like, the scene was still going on, mind you, you know, And I'm just like, bam. Like, down.

[Kristin Davis]

Fl. Flat.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Down flat. Which is very me. That is a very me thing. I have committed so 100% that I didn't even look down. He told me to look for my future husband, and I'm looking so. Oh, we didn't believe in bloopers. Oh, no. We got rid of all.

[Kristin Davis]

I guess you can't do that with the city.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

We were so afraid.

[Kristin Davis]

There were a lot of.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

There Were a lot of bloopers. I feel. I feel like one of the movies. We had bloopers. I want to say. I should investigate that.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But the show, we were like, no. Yeah, no, we don't want to see our bloopers. There would have been so many. You know what I'm saying? And we were just trying to have dignity within what we were doing, which took a lot of work.

[Kristin Davis]

Right? I mean, what y' all did. Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Thank you so much. So the thing. That's what I remember, but as I was watching it, so Charlotte is at this political thing. It doesn't go how she expects. And I'm pretty sure I'm supposed to be drunk. Like, did you think that when you were watching it? I didn't think you were tipsy.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Okay. Cause, like, my hair's a little messy. Cause you're already.

[Kristin Davis]

You're always together, right? So, like, you may have had, like, one and a half drink, but I.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Feel like she's a lightweight. She's a lightweight. But, like, there's hair, like, down in my face, which really never happens.

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So I'm like, oh, Charlotte's a little tipsy. And I'm just talking. Oh, I'm talking.

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, my God. I'm talking to this guy who is the sweetest, sweetest, sweetest. Tommy Crudup is his name. He is Billy Crudup's brother.

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

He's on the couch when we're still at that political party, and he's my next husband. And then Elizabeth Banks comes, and he's like, this is my fiance. And poor Charlotte's just like, oh, no. So Tommy Crudup is a sweetheart, and he ended up going on to produce the Rachael Ray show. I don't know if you ever saw that. Oh, I did watch that. And I would see him every time I would go there, and he's such a sweetheart. And then Elizabeth Banks who comes in, and she has such a little baby face. She's so young. And I think she has, like, two lines, you know, it's so sweet. And I didn't even remember that she was on the show. I saw that her name was there, but I always thought I knew her. But I didn't know how I know her, because I would see her at events, and we would just be like, hi. You know, like, we knew each other forever. But I didn't remember how you were.

[Kristin Davis]

Filming, you know, 100 hour week. How was you remembering?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But I'm in there with her, you know, hey, I'm like, well, that's how I met her.

[Kristin Davis]

There it is, right there.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That's how I met Elizabeth Banks. She's a little child on our show.

[Kristin Davis]

So crazy.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I know. It's so crazy, but really fun. I love. I love to see that. So that there's Charlotte. And I loved that scene. Did you? I did.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, especially when y' all were finally talking and you were hearing their life story. It was like, oh, there's hope for me, right?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That's true. That is what Charlotte's thinking. Yeah. And then I say something like, I just think it's so amazing when people actually find each other. Yeah. But you're just like, she's also just dying, but that's okay. And then I think it's also really funny. And I don't remember that Charlotte throws a party for people to bring their, like, exes, people that they're not into anymore. Or for Samantha, that he's just short. I know. Which we will talk about in a minute. That's a good, good storyline, is it not?

[Kristin Davis]

Well, that's happened to me too. No way. Other girlfriend. We were. Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, it's all the girlfriends. Okay. Okay. So, wait, did it work out?

[Kristin Davis]

No, it immediately crashed and burned. It immediately crashed and burned.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I feel really bad for the short guy.

[Kristin Davis]

I mean, it's just. It was like, literally the exact thing. Like, we met them on the road. We were on our road on our way to, like, San Francisco. We were driving from here to San Francisco and we saw them in traffic. We pull over. She goes to exchange numbers with him.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And this is the guy. We got tall.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, I'm five three and some change. And she may be like, five five. And he was, like, just a little guy.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But you saw him in the car, so you didn't know? No, we didn't know. But he was brave and bold to be exchanging numbers from a car. Yeah. Ye.

[Kristin Davis]

That was one of my smartest moment. We were really young. We were really, really young. We were, like, in our early, like, maybe like, 19, which is even worse. Oh, my God.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I know. I hope my daughter's not listening. Do not exchange numbers. She wouldn't. Anyone in a car. No, no.

[Kristin Davis]

That would never, ever happen.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Wow. What's your daughter's name? My daughter's name is Gemma.

[Kristin Davis]

Gemma. You would never, ever do this.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

No. Definitely no. Definitely no. But it is kind of funny. So, okay, so this guy, I believe his name is Anthony. Alessandro. Jeff Fenton. I think that's the short guy's name. I really feel bad for this guy because, man, These are short kings. I know he's a short king, but he's really so good, you know what I'm saying?

[Kristin Davis]

He was great.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And so basically the gist of the storyline and I really enjoyed it so much and I didn't remember one tiny bit of it, so I didn't know what was going to happen. Samantha's out at a bar and she's sitting up at the bar and this guy, good looking guy, kind of tells her she's beautiful. And then she says, oh, how many lines have you used? How many girls have you used that line on? And he says, you know, I'm in the, you know, finance world and that's this best risk of taking all day because you are beautiful, you know, which of course he's, he's just very smooth. And she's very, you know, Samantha. Amazing. Yes. So then he asked her out for dinner later in the week because he gets beeped on his cute beeper and he has to go back to work. I know. And so. And she says yes. And then he gets off the stool and he's really little. She's like, I know, and I feel so bad. But he doesn't seem to have any kind of self awareness about it in a bad way. Meaning, like he's like, he thinks it's all going great. Yeah. So then she has to do some hardcore thinking and talking to Carrie about like, what do I do, what do I do? He's so little. And then we have a very politically incorrect conversation at that political party about small people.

[Kristin Davis]

Listen, if you're short and you're packing down there, you'd have that confidence too.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Totally, totally. Well put. Well put. Which we find out later. So. So she does decide, does she wait, does she decide to go out with him and, and no. She takes him to Charlotte's party and then they find out from another person there what the theme of the party is. Is that you've brought a date that you're not into for whatever reason, an ex or whatever. And then he's mad at Samantha and he goes like, what? You know, what'd you. And she says, you're just too small. And he says, one hour in the bed with me and you, you will be happy or whatever. I don't know what he says. And she says, well, okay, let's go, let's go.

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And is it my apartment? Like that's the other I was questioning, like, do they go home? I'm not sure.

[Kristin Davis]

I thought it was in your apartment.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You did, because I thought Kind of thought I did too. But then her apartment, I think it's her apartment because then the guy that I'm flirting with after the guy who's banks hooks up with his ex in my bedroom, on my bed, on the coats of the people who come to the party. Very rude behavior. Very rude behavior. Very rude. Not do that in your house.

[Kristin Davis]

In her house.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Not cool. Not cool at all. Poor Charlotte goes through it in this episode. Poor Charlotte. But it's okay. But Samantha goes and has sex with the, with the, with the short king. And it is great. It checks out. It checks out. And good for him.

[Kristin Davis]

But she still had a hard time with.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I know. And then she still had a hard time. And this I thought was just a tiny bit hard to believe. She goes back out to dinner with him. He gets up to go to what he describes as a little boy's room, which, you know, shouldn't probably use that phrase. And then he gets up and she sees that it says on his coat that he bought it at the boys department. Which is pretty mortifying. I get it. It's pretty mortifying. So she has been like really, really little then. I know. I mean, I was just a little. But I will tell you this. My 7 year old son is very tall and his shoes are currently bigger than mine. I know, I know. It, it's a bit of an issue. So I can't tell at the shoe station in front of our house whose shoes are whose and it's problematic. Do you know what I mean?

[Norah Jones]

Why?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And I'm like soon seven. Yeah, I know, I know. I don't know what's going to happen, man. But he loves basketball so, you know, I'm like, keep growing, baby, keep growing. Got to feed you. Got to keep so much going, right?

[Kristin Davis]

Oh my God.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You got to keep the food going though. Because sometimes he doesn't eat and then he's hangry. Not good.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But yeah, I'm like, let's eat the protein. We got to eat the protein. But I could see very soon the clothes are going to be fitting me and then, you know, we won't even be able to shop in the boys department anymore. It's bizarre. But I can wear some of his boys clothes.

[Kristin Davis]

They're pretty cute. You know, my husband's clothes and he's six four, so.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, nice.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, that's so, you know, the more.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Clothes, the merrier is laughing at me.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm a mess. I am sorry.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's all good.

[Kristin Davis]

I will go all over the place.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I love it. Hannah. Knows. I love it. I love it. I love it, I love it. I mean, a tall. A tall guy.

[Kristin Davis]

I.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

This is the problem, though. I think someone needs to discuss our obsession with height.

[Kristin Davis]

Ugh. It's. I was like, I. Most of my boyfriends were short.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Really? Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

And they weren't very tall.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And I.

[Kristin Davis]

This tall man, and what could you do?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, it's crazy. Like, I read something the other day about women on the apps, which I'm not. I'm not on the apps, but women, you know, you can put your height high, highest, and lowest height, and they all put six as the minimum. And it rules out so many men that are probably great guys.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah. Yeah, I get it. Like, I just so happen to fall in love with a man that was 6:4, but most of my boyfriends were.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Which I understand.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Because. But I just think it's one of the. Let it go, though. We have to let it go.

[Kristin Davis]

You got to let it go.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

We got to let it go.

[Kristin Davis]

People don't know. The older you get, that dating pool gets smaller and smaller.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Well, it just gets wacky. It's not even small. It's small, but it's wacky.

[Kristin Davis]

Your tolerance.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Okay. But also what they've been through or who's left?

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Or whatever.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's wacky out there, right? Not that I'm out there, but from what I hear, I. It's wacky. It's wacky doodle. I don't know about you guys, but I love to buy gifts. I love it so much. I love it so much more than getting gifts. But the one thing that I do love, especially when it comes to my daughter, is getting matching things. I know it's such a cliche, but I love it so much. So I have the perfect brand for you. Pandora Jewelry can make their holiday unforgettable with the gift that says it all from Pandora Jewelry. A gift that tells a story and shows you know, theirs that doesn't just sparkle, but speaks. From new festive charms to forever rings and personal engravings. This season, give a gift that's perfectly theirs. Whether you're shopping for a shiny surprise for your significant other, matching bracelets to celebrate your friendship, or a heartfelt gift for a family member. Say more this holiday season with Pandora. Shop [e-mail] or visit your closest Pandora store.

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[Kristin Davis]

All I know is what I've been told and that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Maggie Freeling]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Maggie Freeling]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Kal Penn]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Maggie Freeling]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I did not know her and I.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y' all said.

[Kristin Davis]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Maggie Freeling]

From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to lava for good plus on Apple podcast.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Hey there.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet's dad. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture. Daddy's looking good. Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me. Actors, youth musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms. And we talk about what they love. Sometimes I'll drizzle a little honey in there too. If I'm feeling sexy in the morning, what keeps them going?

[Sophia (OK Storytime Podcast Host)]

And you're maybe my biggest competition on social media.

[Kal Penn]

Like when a kid says bra to.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Me and how they're navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

In Australia, you're looking out for snakes, spiders and boys, right?

[Johnny Knoxville]

Hey, he's no Trey McDougal.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Chill. This is like the common sense section of my Instagram.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are we even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Norah Jones]

Hey, I'm Nora Jones and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing along is back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little bit different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Levy, Rufus Wainwright, Remy Wolf, Marc Rebiet, Mavis Staples. Really too many to name. And there's still so much more to come in this new season, including the powerful psychedelic duo Black Pumas, my old pal and longtime songwriting friend Jesse Harris, and the legendary Lucinda Williams. Listen to Norah Jones is playing along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Okay, so what the storyline. So Samantha. So then she sees the little boys. This was a really interesting scene. She sees that it says the boys department on the jacket. She gets up to leave while he's gone, but then he comes out of the bathroom and he sees her and he says, where are you going? And she says, I'm sorry, I can't. And then he basically makes her laugh, which it's kind of rare to see Samantha laughing with a guy like that. And somehow it still doesn't work out. But then I think of the voice or two. Carrie says, yeah. Carrie says, you know, that relationship lasted for two weeks, which is really a lot for Samantha. And I thought, you know what? This is like, so healthy and great for her and not like she's gonna end up with a guy soon who did not make her laugh. If I'm remembering correctly, we don't get a good guy for Samantha for a while. In my humble opinion. I'm really sorry. I'm really sorry to the actor that we're gonna get too soon. But I just remember, like, thinking, like, it's such a joy to See Samantha laugh like that because she's so powerful. Right. But you don't always get to see her having joy with the men. You see her having joy with the friends.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, right. And that was such a good. The way that he made her laugh was really, like, so natural.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I agree.

[Kristin Davis]

And like, you could see that really happening in real life. It's like some powerful ass woman who nobody can get to. And someone said he's. I don't even remember what he said, but whatever it was, it was.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's about being short or whatever. I think he's making jokes about himself.

[Kristin Davis]

Which is so, so great.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

When someone has a sense of humor, it can really disarm a person.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right. It can get you far.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Men and women, but definitely men being funny. It's very powerful.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, it is very. Especially for women we like. You can make us laugh.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's so good.

[Kristin Davis]

Guy or girl, right? You got us.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, totally. I totally agree. I feel that way. I did see this crazy article. I'm just gonna go ahead and say on my mind, you see this crazy article that basically said, like, you know, Kristen is very all caps different from Charlotte in her dating life. And partly because the podcast makes me see all kinds of strange things that I would never normally look at. And it listed people that they think I've dated. I'm not gonna get into whether it was correct or not. Right. It was mostly correct. And they are very different. Right. They are very different. And I was like, well, that's interesting. I don't know what someone who doesn't know me would think that it's interesting, but I know that all those people made me laugh. Yeah. That's what's the same about them, because they don't seem very similar when you look at them, but I know that they all made me laugh. I mean, some more than others. You know what I'm saying? But. But that was. That would be the, like, if you.

[Kristin Davis]

Had to look for it, like, life is too short. Like, you need somebody. And especially with your career where it is, like, you are stressful and, like, you're comedic.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You're like, you, like, your comedic timing is just. Oh, that's so nice. So great.

[Kristin Davis]

No, it really, really is. Like, you are so great. So I can imagine, you know, how serious your life is all of the time, like, to. To be able to have that type of timing, to be that type of an actress and the work that takes into that. So you need someone that can clear all that.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I do. I do need someone. You need to, like, clear all that.

[Kristin Davis]

Clear all that and just be here.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Definitely. Definitely. It's hard to find that, isn't it? It's hard to find that.

[Kristin Davis]

It's hard to find someone that can also handle. Handle your power.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Thank you.

[Kristin Davis]

And, like, sit back and let you.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You know what I think is interesting about that? I appreciate that you say that, because I think it's so nice to hear that from other women, you know? But the thing that I find confusing, you know, Charlotte is. Charlotte was thought of as the nice one. Right. And she is. Obviously, she's very nice. She wanted what she wanted, but she's like the. The nice one of the group or whatever. Yeah. I think in. In life, people think, you know, that I'm gonna be Charlotte.

[Washable Sofas Advertiser]

Right, Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But I'm not really Charlotte, but I kind of am Charlotte, and I think that men are possibly confused.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, so they think that you are.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Gonna be her, you know, like, super submissive.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Which I don't personally actually think Charlotte is that submissive. She's not.

[Kristin Davis]

She just wanted someone that was gonna lead the household, but also let her.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Lead if she wanted to, because she's a perfectionist. Right. And I mean, the nice thing about Harry, when we do definitely. And goes back to that career, you know, and really is so the thing that I loved about Harry, especially when we got to see them in their, you know, last incarnation, he doesn't fight her.

[Kristin Davis]

Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You know what I mean? Like, they have a good kind of sharing of the power situation. Like, he's in his lane, she's in her lane. She's like, the kids are going to do this. Yeah. And he's fine with that. And then she says, I'm going to go back to work. And then she tells him that he doesn't contribute around the house.

[Kristin Davis]

He's like, which, listen.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I know, but didn't he look upset? I think Evan might still be mad about that. No, I know. We're gonna have Evan on the podcast. We'll ask him what he was mad that day. I remember he was so mad. He seemed mad. I. Evan, I'm sure you're gonna tell me if I'm right or wrong. Because at that point, I was so just focused on my acting that I couldn't even ask. I did wanna ask. I did think to myself, like, is Evan actually mad at me right now? I mean, it's possible he was just acting. Right. But I had to focus so hard to get. It was like a whole page monologue. Right. So I couldn't really deal with his feelings right then. But I do remember thinking like, he really looks mad at me right now.

[Kristin Davis]

I wish I could have been a fly on the wall to experience that whole our world.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

The world is fun. The world is really fun. Oh my God, the world is really fun. But you were able to have that.

[Kristin Davis]

Like type of success without social media.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Well, thank God.

[Kristin Davis]

I think I was going to say how freeing. Freeing.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And I think we wouldn't have had that success if we had social media. Because now social media, everybody nitpicks everything all the time in real time. It's too much.

[Kristin Davis]

They need to stay on forever.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah. They need to pipe down and let people make things for them. At least that's my current current thought. Thank you. Thank you so much.

[Kristin Davis]

Welcome to my.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Thank you so much. Absolutely. I don't know about you guys, but I love to buy gifts. I love it so much. I love it so much more than getting gifts. But the one thing that I do love, especially when it comes to my daughter, is getting matching things. I know it's such a cliche, but I love it so much. So I have the perfect brand for you. Pandora Jewelry can make their holiday unforgettable with the gift that says it all from Pandora Jewelry. A gift that tells a story and shows you know theirs that doesn't just sparkle, but speaks. From new festive charms to forever rings and personal engravings, this season, give a gift that's perfectly theirs. Whether you're shopping for a shiny surprise for your significant other, matching bracelets to celebrate your friendship, or a heartfelt gift for a family member, say more this holiday season with Pandora. Shop [e-mail] or visit your closest Pandora store.

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[Kristin Davis]

All I know is what I've been told and that's a half truth is a whole lie.

[Maggie Freeling]

For almost a decade, the murder of an 18 year old girl from a small town in in Graves County, Kentucky went unsolved until a local homemaker, a journalist and a handful of girls came forward with a story.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm telling you, we know Quincy killed her.

[Maggie Freeling]

We know a story that law enforcement used to convict six people and that got the citizen investigator on national tv.

[Kal Penn]

Through sheer persistence and nerve, this Kentucky housewife helped give justice to Jessica Curran.

[Maggie Freeling]

My name is Maggie Freeling. I'm a Pulitzer Prize winning journalist producer and I wouldn't be here if the truth were that easy to find.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

I did not know her and I.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Did not kill her or rape or burn or any of that other stuff that y' all said.

[Kristin Davis]

They literally made me say that I took a match and struck and threw it on her. They made me say that I poured gas on her.

[Maggie Freeling]

From Lava for good. This is Graves County, a show about just how far our legal system will go in order to find someone to blame.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

America, y' all better wake the hell up. Bad things happens to good people and small towns.

[Maggie Freeling]

Listen to Graves county in the Bone Valley feed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And to binge the entire season ad free. Subscribe to Lava for Good plus on Apple Podcasts.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Hey there. I'm Kyle McLaughlin. You might know me as that guy from Twin Peaks, Sex and the City, or just the Internet's dad. I have a new podcast called what Are We Even Doing? Where I I embark on a noble quest to understand the brilliant chaos of youth culture. Daddy's looking good. Each week I invite someone fascinating to join me. Actors, musicians, creatives, highly evolved digital life forms. And we talk about what they love. Sometimes I'll drizzle a little honey in there too if I'm feeling sexy in the morning. What keeps them going?

[Sophia (OK Storytime Podcast Host)]

And you're maybe my biggest competition on social media.

[Kal Penn]

Like when a kid says bra to.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Me and how they're navigating this high speed roller coaster we call reality.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

In Australia, you're looking out for snakes, spiders and Right?

[Johnny Knoxville]

Hey, he's no Trey McDougal.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Chill. This is like the comments section of my Instagram.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Join me and my delightful guests every Thursday and let's get weird together in a good way. Listen to what are we even doing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Norah Jones]

Hey, I'm Nora Jones, and I love playing music with people so much that my podcast called Playing along is Back. I sit down with musicians from all musical styles to play songs together in an intimate setting. Every episode's a little bit different, but it all involves music and conversation with some of my favorite musicians. Over the past two seasons, I've had special guests like Dave Grohl, Levy, Rufus Wainwright, Remy Wolf, Marc Rebiet, Mavis Staples. Really too many to name. And there's still so much more to come in this new season, including the powerful psychedelic duo Black Pumas, my old pal and longtime songwriting friend Jesse Harris, and the legendary Lucinda Williams. Listen to Nora Jones is playing along on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I had totally forgotten that they go to this Indian restaurant where the curry is really hot and she doesn't drink water.

[Norah Jones]

Why?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's pretty funny. Because she's afraid that she'll have to pee and then he'll be like, pee on me. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's such a funny.

[Kristin Davis]

She's like, no, no water things. Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's very well thought out, like, situation where she can't drink water. And then he goes, oh, you know, I have an early campaign thing. And then she realizes, oh, thank God I don't spend the night with him. I can drink water. And she guzzles the water. That scene is so skillful on Sarah Jessica's part because we know everything that she's thinking, but he doesn't, you know, and I really, really enjoyed it. And I for. These are the little details that you forget that when you're rewatching. Yeah. And you relate and you. It's so well executed.

[Kristin Davis]

It was so like, like, you know, that was like matter of survival right there. That was a Survivor skill right there that I feel like women have done. And.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But also, it's like such a weird. Like, weird circumstances happen in your mind, right. Where you're playing out what might happen if you drink your water and you're trying to avoid that. Just all the hoops you have to jump through.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, well, I mean, prime example. I mean, if we're going to talk about it, we're going to talk about it. So back when I would date, I remember, like, if I was going out with a guy that I thought was wanting to sleep with me and I didn't want to sleep with him. Like, I just so happened to be in my period that day, and I would.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes.

[Kristin Davis]

And I mean, I like like, reality. Like, I'd bring tampons.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I'd be.

[Kristin Davis]

Excuse me. When I go to the restroom, like.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Just to overly, like, oh, you would commit.

[Kristin Davis]

I committed all the way. Oh, that's adorable.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That's adorable. I have so many things going through my head right now, but I really feel like I shouldn't say them.

[Kristin Davis]

No, I said mine.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You did. You did. I mean, I remember. You know, obviously, it would have been a long time ago that I would have been dating that way or whatever.

[Washable Sofas Advertiser]

Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But I remember that, like, certainly if it was new, that was, you know, a situation or whatever. And I was always trying to.

[Ebay Advertiser]

You.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Know, avoid sleeping with them too soon. Right. But I don't think I would have lied about that, because one of the things that used to really bug me was with. If a man was really, really, like, ached out by your period.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Like, that would really bother me. Do you know what I'm saying?

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah. So, like, I wouldn't want to be like, oh, I have my period. I want to have sex. I wouldn't want to be that girl.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I mean, because I wanted them to be like, it doesn't bother me. That's how I would know that they were cool. Is that crazy?

[Kristin Davis]

Because somebody that I wanted.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right, Right. But I think that was like, a. Like a proving ground. Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Hannah's dying. So good. It's so true.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

But I mean, and I. I do think it would. I would have had to really like them to even want to broach anything like that. Right. But it would have been like a little test. Do you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, are they gonna be, like. Like, prissy about it? Yeah. Do you know what I mean?

[Kristin Davis]

Or you're like, yeah, you're not my guy.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And then eventually I went out someone. And this is about. This is about sweat. Okay. I'm gonna switch topics. But I went out with an Australian who I loved very much, and he just thought it was great if you were sweaty. I'd be like, no, I need to get in the shower. And he'd be like, no, babe. I know. And canyon. Right. Isn't that so attractive?

[Kristin Davis]

That's the man that loves your fair mom.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes.

[Norah Jones]

My husband.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right. I love him.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes. I love him.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's nice to be accepted. I don't marry.

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right. Back to the episode. Back to the episode. Okay. Basically, we've kind of covered the big topics, but the thing that is adorable.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And then the end, we have a picture just to remind us of How, Carrie?

[Kristin Davis]

To pee or not.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes, I love pee. So in the end, after Slattery. So Carrie is going through her different potential ways that she could work around not peeing on him and that she could run warm water while they're having sex or have tea. Like all these really adrenaline things.

[Kristin Davis]

Sheet with her tousled hair.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes. And it's her natural hair, which is so gorgeous. And then Slattery, you can't see him. Cause he's in the shower, and then he pulls back the shower curtain and he's kind of mean. And he says, well, that. I have to tell you something. Something too. You know, this person in my campaign thinks that maybe it's not a good thing for me to be dating someone with a, you know, sex column during campaign.

[Kristin Davis]

Ass is peeing on people.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Exactly. Exactly. And she goes, but. But what? She's so polite about it. She's like, but, but. But you. You want to pee. You want me to pee on you? And he goes, well, no one knows that. Cut to her typing, which is so enjoyable.

[Kristin Davis]

Add to cart.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Exactly. And then it says her headline of the column is to pee or not to pee. That is the question.

[Kristin Davis]

That is the question.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I love it so much.

[Kristin Davis]

That is so good.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And I hadn't remembered any about that. And she also makes a joke about the Princess and the Pea, which she had starred in when I met her and I saw her in it before we shot the pilot, which is pretty funny. And that's a joke in the show as well.

[Kristin Davis]

That is so good.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's so good. I know. It's all connected, isn't it? All connected.

[Kristin Davis]

And it's also relevant to today.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It is so horribly relevant to today, in a way.

[Kristin Davis]

Isn't that so wild?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah, it's like, kind of depressing, really. I mean, I don't think it's depressing to say, like, okay, people want different things, you know? Yeah. In sex. That's cool. And I. I do feel that Carrie is pretty understanding.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

She's not shame.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, she didn't shame him at all. Like, she tried to compromise and be like, I don't want to, but we could pretend.

[Norah Jones]

Right.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Like, she very sweetly tries to compromise, and then he's kind of, like, rude. Well, you. Yeah. You write sex columns.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Like, okay, I know. And here she was trying to have a job. Totally. And at least I'm this host of the Town. Yes. Thank you very much. And I can write a column about you. Yeah, exactly. But I also think it's interesting in so many ways. And I can't remember what happens after this. Of course, next week I'll get to see, but.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, so you're waiting to watch each episode before.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I am. I am, yes. Because I don't remember all of them. I have my weird memories of filming them, but I don't really remember the storyline. That's crazy. You're wearing green. I want to ask you about your Christmas album. Okay.

[Kristin Davis]

So I have my album out. I was not a Christmas person until I had my son. And, you know, I'm a millennial, so I get to see all the videos of how magical Christmas was back in the day. And so it was so magical. You know, like the marbles and the.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Fountains and all that stuff.

[Kristin Davis]

You know, everybody. It's shopping. Like, nobody does that anymore, it feels like. But I just wanted to release a really cool, fun Christmas album that I just am so proud of. I recorded most of it in China.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah. Amazing.

[Washable Sofas Advertiser]

Wow.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I love it. I do think that having children completely changes your viewpoint of the holidays and especially Christmas. Yeah. And everything. Yeah. My kids love the Christmas music.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Love it so much. So much.

[Ebay Advertiser]

It makes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So excited.

[Kristin Davis]

And I'm. I'm just so excited that it's here.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I wore green for the day and it reminded me.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It did its job. It reminded me.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I'm so excited. I also feel like Christmas music and Christmas specials and everything.

[Sophia (OK Storytime Podcast Host)]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's such a great opportunity for. For someone like yourself who has a beautiful voice because it's just another. It's like kind of an additional. Almost like a cottage industry. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Which is.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Right.

[Kristin Davis]

One of the songs on my album is called Sugar Cookie was written with Kirsten from Pentatonix.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Cool.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm really. It's like one of my favorite songs on the album, and I hope everybody enjoys it.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Amazing. You are so sweet to come and join us.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you for having me Again. Like, I have been just trying not to, like, stare at you.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I'm just so.

[Kristin Davis]

You're just so important, and I'm just so.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I'm not important.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, you are.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You're sweet.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm just. This has been an honor to sit here.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You're so sweet and wonderful. You're a joy to come over here and join us in our little Brownwood studio. So easy and wonderful.

[Kristin Davis]

We just been chatting.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I know. It's great. You're so. So smart and fantastic.

[Kristin Davis]

Thank you.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

You're welcome. Can we watch this China show? So it's.

[Kristin Davis]

It was online only, but you can see it if you just look up. The singer got it.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

There's.

[Kristin Davis]

You can see all the performances. Amazing.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, that's fun.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, it was awesome.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I'm so glad.

[Kristin Davis]

Like, I. I will be. I was just in China for tour in October.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Wow. Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

I did a tour out there. It was awesome.

[Norah Jones]

Wow.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I've only ever been to Shanghai and Beijing, which are amazing. I feel definitely amazing. Yes. A little overwhelming. It's.

[Kristin Davis]

It's a lot of people.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

It's a lot of people.

[Kristin Davis]

They drive crazy.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I did not even. Yeah. I definitely didn't drive.

[Kristin Davis]

Oh, my God. I mean, I didn't drive for the three months I was there, but I rode in the car and I was. It's like I. They drive, like, worse than New Yorkers.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Wow. That's a lot. The single.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, that's. I mean, there's no rules on the road.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Well, I do feel like I also remember all the bikes. Yes. Which is no helmet, right? No helmets.

[Kristin Davis]

They'll have their whole family on. One bite. And I'm just like, what is happening?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I remember being in a very tall hotel in. I feel like it was in Shanghai.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

And I could look down and. And the morning, like, the. Everyone going to work and just a sea of people whose section of bikes. And then all the cars would come. It was very cool, though.

[Kristin Davis]

It's. It's. That was a lot. Like, there's no personal space in.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Oh, no, no. There's definitely a difference in personal space. Yeah, definitely. Difference in personal space. Definitely. Definitely. I forgot to say something that's so funny about the show. This is what reminded me of it. The reason that I went to Shanghai and Beijing is that I held a Motorola flight flip phone. I got paid to go to Shanghai and Beijing and hold. It might have been. Yeah, it might have been. I don't know. Because there was a while ago.

[Kristin Davis]

That was something I noticed on the show were the razor phones. At first, it was the little one that Carrie had, Right?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes. She keeps. Because she didn't want to be, like, too into the phones. I have all kind of crazy phones, but in life also, people are always giving me phones. I was always using the crazy phones. But did you notice in this episode, Carrie goes to a phone booth and uses it?

[Maggie Freeling]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So sweet. Is so great. But let me tell you, they smell so bad now. Yeah. I mean, there's still some left. I don't know if they work or not.

[Kristin Davis]

But, like, what are people.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Why they're still there. Yeah. I mean, yeah, they're there and they smell. I know. I have a Cute book for my son. It's called the Last Phone Booth and it's about the last phone booth in Manhattan and how everyone leaves it for their cell phones and it watches all the people walk by and they don't use it anymore. But then one day the cell service goes out and then there's a big line to use the old magic. Yeah. Phone Booth. It's a good book.

[Kristin Davis]

Remember that movie Phone Booth?

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yes. With Colin? I remember every Colin Farrell movie. The Big Colin.

[Kristin Davis]

I went and saw that in the theater.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I haven't seen that in theaters either. But I love anything with Colin in it.

[Kristin Davis]

It's so good.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

My daughter's very perplexed by the Penguin. She's never seen the Penguin, but we see the ads all around town. And she's like, but, but does he look like that? I'm like, no, he's very, very handsome.

[Kristin Davis]

Very handsome Colin.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

She said, but how does he look like that for that show? And I said, hours and hours of prosthetics. It's impressive, right?

[Kristin Davis]

That is so wild.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I know it. Mickey?

[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Are you a Charlotte?

[Kristin Davis]

Hell yeah. I cursed the day you were born.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Excellent. Excellent that you're ready with that one. Excellent. Did you ever feel like maybe I'm a Charlotte, maybe I'm a Carrie? I saw.

[Kristin Davis]

I felt I was in between Charlotte and Carrie.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

That's how I feel too.

[Kristin Davis]

Like I definitely. The moral thing that Charlotte had. She had such a. Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

A more.

[Kristin Davis]

Her moral compass was the most.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Definitely. Definitely.

[Kristin Davis]

But then, you know, I could. I've broken some hearts like Carrie.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I bet you have.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Good for you.

[Kristin Davis]

I kept choosing my Mr. Big.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Did you? I did.

[Kristin Davis]

I had a. I had a Mr. Big, but he wasn't. He was Mr. Little because he wasn't big.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

He was little, but he had that vibe.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I mean, look, I don't know anyone who hasn't really.

[Kristin Davis]

Yeah, yeah.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I mean, maybe there's someone. I don't know. Hannah, did you have a Mr. Big? Okay, great.

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[Sarah Jessica Parker]

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[Kristin Davis]

Yes.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

I don't think Mr. Big. Oh.

[Kal Penn]

Why?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Yeah.

[Kristin Davis]

Well, thank you so much for having me.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Thank you for being here.

[Kristin Davis]

I'm Charlotte.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yay.

[Kal Penn]

Yay.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Yay.

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[Johnny Knoxville]

Hello America's sweetheart. Johnny Knoxville here. I want to tell you about my new true crime podcast, Hillbilly Heist from Smartless Media, Campside Media and big money Players. It's a wild tale about a gang of high functioning nitwits who somehow pulled off America's third largest cash heist.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Kind of like Robin Hood, except for the part where he still from the rich and gives to the poor. I'm not that generous.

[Johnny Knoxville]

It's a damn near inspiring true story for anyone out there who's ever shot for the moon, then just totally muffed up the landing. They stole $17 million and had not bought a ticket to help him escape.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

So we're sitting like oh God, what do we do?

[Ebay Advertiser]

What do we do?

[Kyle McLaughlin]

That was dumb. People. Do not follow my example.

[Johnny Knoxville]

Listen to to Crimeless Hillbilly Heist on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sophia (OK Storytime Podcast Host)]

I live below a cult leader and I fear I've angered her.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Wait a minute, Sophia, how do you know she's a cult leader?

[Sophia (OK Storytime Podcast Host)]

Well, Dakota, luckily it's I'm Not Afraid of a Scary Story week on the OK Storytime Podcast, so we'll find out soon. This person writes, my neighbor has been blasting music every day and doing dirt rituals and now my sea ceiling is collapsing. I try to report them, but things keep getting weirder. I think they might be part of a cult.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Hold up. A real life cult? And what is a dirt ritual?

[Sophia (OK Storytime Podcast Host)]

No clue, Dakota. Find out how it ends. Listen to the okay Storytime podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kal Penn]

Hey, I'm Cal Penn and on my new podcast, Here We Go Again, we'll take today's trends and headlines and ask, why does history keep repeating itself? Each week I'm calling up my friends like Bill Nye, Lilly Singh, and Pete Buttigieg to talk about everything from the space race to movie remakes to psychedelics.

[Kyle McLaughlin]

Put another way, are you high?

[Kal Penn]

Look, the world can seem pretty scary right now, but my goal here is for you to listen and feel a little better about the future. Listen and subscribe to Here we go again with Kal Penn on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Kristin Davis]

The Big Take podcast from Bloomberg News keeps you on top of the biggest stories of the day.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

My fellow Americans, this is Liberation Day.

[Kristin Davis]

Stories that move markets.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

Chair Powell opened the door to this.

[Kristin Davis]

First interest rate cut, impact politics, change businesses.

[Sarah Jessica Parker]

This is a really stunning development for.

[Kristin Davis]

The AI world and how you think about your bottom line. Listen to the Big Take from Bloomberg News every weekday afternoon on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is an iHeart podcast.