"When Was the Last Time You Backed Up Your Work?" with Aasif Mandvi

Summary

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Podcast Summary: Are You A Charlotte?

Episode: When Was the Last Time You Backed Up Your Work?
Host: Kristin Davis
Guest: Aasif Mandvi
Date: May 8, 2026
Podcast by: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

In this heartfelt and nostalgic episode, Kristin Davis (known for her role as Charlotte York on Sex and the City) sits down with actor and writer Aasif Mandvi. The conversation begins with a rewatch and deep dive into "Sex and the City," focusing on an episode where Miranda's mother passes away and the underlying theme of grief permeates each character's storyline. As the conversation progresses, Kristin and Aasif explore themes of loss (both in the show and in life), changing perspectives with age, relationship dynamics, and the cosmic quirks of astrology. The tone remains warm, candid, and reflective, full of laughter and mutual appreciation.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Revisiting a Pivotal "Sex and the City" Episode

• Deep Dive into Grief and Loss

  • The primary episode discussed revolves around Miranda experiencing the death of her mother, Samantha losing her ability to orgasm, and Carrie's laptop crashing, all representing different forms of loss.
  • Aasif: "To me, the episode is about grief." (04:20)
  • Both hosts praise the script's depth and its ability to tie together the characters’ separate challenges through a shared theme.

• Writing & Production Memories

  • Kristin shares behind-the-scenes memories, mentioning that the episode was penned by someone new to TV and highlighting the intense workload of producing the series at its peak.
  • Kristin: "This was their first script for our show and their first TV job ever. What the hell?" (04:14)
  • Nostalgia and the evolution of television production schedules are discussed ("Eighteen episodes on HBO. That's crazy." - Aasif, 07:04).

• Rewatching as a Different Experience

  • Kristin reflects on how rewatching episodes now, after experiencing more personal loss, is much more emotional.
  • "Especially now, so many years later, with so much more loss that we've experienced personally and collectively… But we were so innocent then in so many ways, but yet it's so powerful." – Kristin (06:04)
  • She shares how viewing the show through both personal and fan perspectives is a complex and warm experience.

2. Relationship Dynamics On-Screen and Off

• Miranda and Steve: Alpha and Beta Dynamics

  • The dynamic between Miranda and Steve — Miranda as the assertive “alpha” and Steve as a more sensitive “beta” — is explored.
  • Aasif: "She’s alpha and he’s a bit more beta, right?" (10:47)
  • They link this dynamic to real life, discussing qualities that strong women may seek and struggle with in relationships.

• Personal Parallels

  • Aasif discusses his own marriage with humor and insight, noting his wife’s Virgo traits compared to his Pisces nature:
    • "My wife…sometimes has difficulty being vulnerable…She’s not a fall apart kind of person." (11:26)
    • He likens understanding his wife to understanding Miranda's emotional wall.
    • The couple’s differences (absolute vs. relative viewpoints) fuel both growth and disagreement.
    • Aasif: "Her thing also scares the shit out of me sometimes. And my thing scares the…out of her because she’s very…absolutist." (19:29)
    • Kristin and Aasif joke about astrology and how their signs influence relationship dynamics.

3. Astrology and Personality

• Astrological Fun
  • Both reveal their star signs and how they relate to their personalities and relationships:
    • Kristin: Pisces sun, Pisces moon, Aries rising. (13:13–14:11)
    • Aasif: Pisces, married to a double Virgo.
  • They connect these revelations to "Sex and the City" characters, speculating which sign Charlotte would be.
  • Insights are delivered with a light, playful tone, full of mutual ribbing and camaraderie.

4. Parenting, Vulnerability, and Change

• On Parenting Stylistic Differences

  • The hosts discuss the contrasting parenting styles rooted in their personalities and how those shapes their children's experiences.
  • Aasif: "My son is in play mode all the time. He got up this morning and decided…he was the Band Aid man. And I’m like, dude, you just gotta get your shoes on." (25:20)
  • Kristin speaks about grounding herself as a single mom and the emotional journey of raising children later in life.

• Enduring Emotional Impact of the Show

  • The enduring legacy and emotional resonance of Sex and the City for both its fans and cast are reiterated.
  • Kristin: "The show has all those things in it and also was so long ago, but is still alive." (26:38)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "It’s written so well because it’s beyond…to me, the episode is about grief." – Aasif (04:12)
• "They called me the Martha Stewart of death." – Kristin (05:18)
• "Even Carrie's laptop dying is about grief. She's losing everything." – Aasif (05:33)
• "I knew intellectually this was one of my top three favorite episodes ever…but we were so innocent then, but yet it’s so powerful." — Kristin (06:04)
• "The sun sign is who you are. Your moon sign is how you see yourself, and your rising sign is how you present…which makes sense." — Aasif (13:57)
• "I’m water…like I just flow. I don’t know…we could go anywhere at any time." — Kristin (21:44)
• "Sometimes you’re like, I don’t know. Now I have my children, and I do know." — Kristin (22:27)

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Important Timestamps

• 03:29 – Discussion of Miranda’s mother’s death and the episode’s emotional resonance
• 06:04 – Kristin reflects on rewatching the show after experiencing more personal loss
• 10:01 – Exploring Steve and Miranda’s dynamic and how it reflects real-life relationships
• 13:11 – Astrology deep dive (Pisces and Virgo analysis)
• 19:17 – Parallels between astrology and relationships, differences in personality
• 25:20 – Aasif describes playful parenting and his son’s “Band Aid man” routine
• 26:38 – Reflection on the enduring impact of Sex and the City
• 27:00 – Aasif declares he’s more of a “Carrie” than a “Charlotte”
• 28:02 – Aasif plugs his projects: "The Miniature Wife," "Fallen Angels," and "Terror: Devil and Silver"

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Episode Wrap-Up

Kristin and Aasif conclude with warmth and humor, comparing themselves and their loved ones to the “Sex and the City” archetypes, and promoting Aasif’s latest projects. The conversation remains light but reflective, resonant for fans and newcomers alike.

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This summary captures the episode’s explorations of grief, nostalgia, personal growth, relationship dynamics, and the quirky ways personality types (or star signs) steer our lives—all delivered with the heart, humor, and optimism that define the podcast.

Transcript

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Hate cleaning, Hate scrubbing, Hate dishwashing, bro. We got you millions of videos about smart cleaning hacks will make your chores feel like a breeze. Download TikTok and check it out. Hi, I'm Kristin Davis and I want to know, are you a Charlotte? Welcome back everybody, to are you a Charlotte? Part 2. Asif Manvi is here. Thanks for joining us. I'd love to get your opinion now on Miranda. Well, this is when Miranda's mom dies. So it's like, like a lot going on.

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By the way, this was a really good episode. I was like, actually. Because I think it won an Emmy this episode.

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You know what? I don't know if it won an Emmy. We should figure that out. It should have because it's incredible.

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Win an Emmy this episode. Because if it did, I don't know if won an Emmy for Ask Julie.

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I think our whole season of the this year. Won an Emmy.

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Won an Emmy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, I seem to remember this episode. Cause you know how sometimes they'll submit certain episodes for the Emmys. They don't watch the whole season.

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I think you pick three.

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Yeah. And so I think this was such a great episode. It's written so well because it's beyond.

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This was their first TV job.

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Was it?

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It was their first script for our show and their first TV job ever. What the hell?

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It's really a well written show. It's beyond. And the thing is the way they tie things together. And to me, the episode is about grief.

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Yeah.

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And Miranda's character, who her mom dies and then that scene in the, when she's putting on the. She's trying on the bra with the woman and it's just so heartbreaking and real. And then the whole thing with Samantha losing her orgasm. Losing her orgasm. And you think, oh, it is on one level you're like, oh, this just feels sort of like cartoonish almost like, you know, like they're having the whole those sex in those scenes and stuff. And then you realize at the end that like, oh, she does. It's all about. I mean, you kind of know it is. But then when she cries at the funeral, so good. It's like you realize like, oh, that is what this is about.

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Absolutely.

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And so it's, you know, and how Charlotte is trying to like, do be perfect and manage it. All with the.

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They called me the Martha Stewart of death. Yeah, I know. I'd forgotten that, too. They told me that yesterday. I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot. That was what I was doing. It's. It's interesting. And. And I agree. I knew.

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And even Carrie's laptop dying.

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Right.

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Is about grief. It's about. She's losing everything, you know, all the things. You know. So it's.

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Yeah. Anyway, I knew intellectually that this was one of my top three favorite episodes ever.

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Yeah.

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But I haven't ever rewatched these things because I used to spend just energy trying not to rewatch. Right. Like, if it was on, I'd just

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be like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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You know, don't live in the past, but now I have a podcast where I rewatch. So I was getting ready for yesterday, and we had two episodes. We were doing yesterday, and Julie and Elisa were coming. I was doing my makeup as I was watching. Huge mistake, because it floored me. Do you know what I mean? Especially now, so many years later, with so much more loss that we've experienced personally and collectively, basically. But we were so innocent then in so many ways, but yet it's so powerful.

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Yeah.

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What they wrote and what we all did and how it came together, it's incredible.

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Is it hard? Is it interesting? It's hard. Is it hard for you to watch it and not, like, can you watch it objectively, I guess, and not be, like, in the. In the show? Oh, that was the day that I wasn't feeling well.

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I mean, both.

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Both.

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Right. Because as actors, that is what we remember. Right. We remember the details of the life. Our life.

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Right, Right.

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And definitely there's a lot of that in the earlier seasons. More so as we're getting into third season of fourth season, where we did so many episodes like, it's cuckoo crazy. Like the olden days. It's 18. Fourth season. How many was it? Third. Third season. Hannah. It's a. It's a lot.

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Eighteen episodes on HBO. That's crazy.

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Believe that.

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They never. Like, it's like, it was a different world. Yeah.

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It was just a fully different world. Yeah.

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Yeah, they were. They were trying to do, like, a network schedule.

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You were. Because back on. I had been on Melrose Place before this, as we were talking about earlier, I believe that we did 36 episodes in a season of Melrose Place. Wow. Yeah. Wow. Like. Like, you have to actually think that through. Like, am I crazy? But no, I'm pretty sure you were just working.

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Like, you had, like, two months off that Was exactly.

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You had Christmas and, like, a couple weeks in the summer. But also part of it was because the format was different. Right. Like, they didn't want you doing blocking. They didn't want you moving around. They wanted to cut in to this kind of a closeup. Right. Like, it was a specific format, whereas we were trying to do basically, like, a film.

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Yeah.

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You know.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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With so many short scenes tied together by her voiceover. And our hours were super crazy. Long as I. I know my listeners hear me talk about this all the time.

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Yeah.

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But, you know, it was a much more ambitious. We were obviously overly ambitious in a wonderful way. But when I look back on it at the time, I was watching it immediately because I was always so excited, like, how did it turn out? And I was still learning myself, you know, like, what worked and what do I feel like I could have done better. But also, I was just a big fan at the time. Right. Like, I thought everything that we did was great. I think with the exception of the first season, which we did before anything aired. And I felt like it was uneven. But when I look back on it, I love it. Right. So now, with all of this time, I definitely can be way more objective and more involved in the actual show. You know what I'm saying? Like, affected and, like, how a fan might feel. I don't think I can totally be a fan, of course. Right. Cause I still am thinking, like, oh, yeah, those shoes really hurt.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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That's what I'm saying. But I feel like I had a couple weeks off because I was traveling, and then I came back and I watched the show and this warmth. I just felt this incredible warmth, like, being with us. And of course, I know them, so it's a lot for me, too. But I feel like this is what the fans are and we're experiencing, and that is so incredible to be a part of.

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Yeah. Yeah.

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You know, it's made me understand it better, the whole Absolutely.

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Yeah.

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Thing of it.

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And it's great that, you know, because I think that when you have enough distance and time from it, you can actually watch it and enjoy it. Just.

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Yeah.

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For what it is.

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Yeah. Like, I laugh.

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Yeah.

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You know, I don't remember all this stuff.

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I'm like, right. And it can surprise you again, because so often you watch stuff and you're like, it's boring. Because I know exactly what happens, and

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I intellectually know what happens, but I don't remember all the stuff. And also, I'm really in it, and I'm like, Wait, wait, why did they break up again? Like, what's happening? You know, Even though intellectually I should know this, but you get so involved. Which brings me to my other relationship that I want to ask you about as a straight man.

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Uh huh.

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You're now representing all straight men also all straight guys. What do you think of Steve and Miranda? They're not so much prevalent in this. Like, Steve shows up, which is very sweet for Miranda's mother's funeral. But do you remember their vibe? He's kind of less like. You were talking about your wife being a lawyer.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like I said, I didn't watch all the episodes very like, like.

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Right.

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But I, I remember that character and he was a bit. Am I remembering it correctly? I felt like he was a bit more of like a. He was less alpha.

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Yes.

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Like he was.

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She's alpha.

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She's alpha and he's a bit more beta. Right? Like.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Yes.

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But, but like, like, so it's interesting because Miranda's. Miranda is so strong and so put together and so like sort of on top of everything. And he seemed a little bit more.

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He's like a kid.

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Yeah. Like a little kid. You know, which is another dynamic that that is, is quite. You see all the time.

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Definitely. But they struggle with it. It's interesting. Like she's like, no, I'm not going to do that. But then he just keeps coming and he's so open.

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Yeah.

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And she needs that.

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She needs that. She needs somebody who is going to break through all of that, you know.

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He does.

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Yeah.

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It's kind of fascinating. Yeah.

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It's. Sometimes it's true and I think it's. It's true. Like, like my wife is, like I said to you earlier, is a very accomplished woman who is. And, and sometimes has difficulty being vulnerable and being, you know, like, like the thing that she's really dealing with is not the thing that she's actually talking about. Talking about, you know, like, like, like there's a, there's a. It's hard for her to, to have to just sort of go, you know, sometimes because she's not a fall apart kind of person. Right.

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But it's good she's with an actor.

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Huh?

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It's good she's with an actor.

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Yeah. So when she's with me, I am always looking for that, you know, underneath. Yeah. And part of the, you know, the dynamic has been for me to recognize that what I see is not all that there is.

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Yeah.

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Do you know what I mean? It's like, the thing that she's showing me is not. And to have. And to have an understanding of that, like, and sometimes I'm good at it, and sometimes I'm not as good at it.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I do feel like it is just like, I have my circle, the drain thing. Like, that's the thing that she has, which is that she's a little bit more like that. Like, she's like, I can't. I'm not going to fall apart or I'm not going to. I'm gonna. I. I, like. Like, I need to control things. I need to maintain, you know?

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Like, I'm not like a Charlotte something.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, like, her vulnerability is. Yeah. I mean, she's a Virgo, you know, so she's.

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Love the Virgos. Oh, I love the Virgo.

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She's like. She's double Virgo.

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Oh, interesting. What are you?

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I'm a Pisces. So I. Yeah, you're a Pisces.

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I think I know that in so many. I like a Pisces.

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When's your birthday?

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23rd. February 23rd.

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Oh, okay.

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I'm a February Pisces.

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February Pisces. I'm a March Pisces.

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Oh, there's such debate.

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Yeah, yeah, I know. You're right on the cusp, though.

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Yeah. I know our algorithms are going to show us a lot, but I have no. I read Aquarius. I'm like, no, I'm nothing because I have Pisces sun, Pisces moon. Pisces.

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Oh, my God, you have Pisces moon.

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So many.

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We're getting into this now. Okay, Pisces moon. What else?

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You have something else, like Mercury or. I get mixed up. But the only thing that I have that's not Pisces is I have Aries rising.

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Oh, wow.

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Thank God.

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Okay.

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Thank God.

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I'm saying. Yeah. That's how you present the world.

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Is it? Do you think?

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Well, that's what I. That's what I have understood is that, like, the sun sign is if you go down this road, if you believe

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in this, why not?

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It's like the sun sign is who you are.

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Right.

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Your moon sign is how you see yourself, and your rising sign is how you present sometimes in the world, which makes sense.

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You know, I do think that people do feel like I'm a Pisces, though, which I. I'm glad, because I do really feel like I'm a Pisces.

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Yeah.

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I feel like, you know, sometimes I don't want to leave my house or the Garden.

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Yeah.

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I want to look at the sunset. If it were up to me, all I would post on Instagram would be pictures of the sunrise and the sunset.

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Right.

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And bodies of water.

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Right, right, right. Sure.

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It would be so much fun. No, but I have to function.

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Yeah.

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I have to get out of here.

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Pisces are incredibly like. My son is a Pisces.

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Fantastic.

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And we're, we're highly emotional. We actually are often found in artistic,

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thank God, worlds because we found real

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sensitivity and we have real access to our own emotions and all that stuff in, in, in, in a good way and sometimes in a bad way.

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I'm not going to go too far into this, but what my most longest relationship was with a Virgo man. So I totally think it's a good.

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Yeah, well, Virgo and Pisces are directly opposite each other.

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Yes. Fascinating.

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And they, you know, they kind of balance out the other side, but they also. So in the best way. She's all the things that I'm not, and I'm all the things that she's not. And then in. In on. On the struggle side, the things that she is. And the things that I, like. Like, her thing also scares the shit out of me sometimes. And my thing scares the. Out of her because she's very, like, she can be very absolutist.

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Yeah.

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And very kind of like, this is the way it is. This is way wrong. Right. Good, bad, and Pisces are like, you know, it's all relative, totally.

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And we can see both sides. I can be like, well, yes, but the other side is blah, blah, blah.

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Just like. But, you know, it's all relative. Right. Like, and we are such relativists. And one of the biggest arguments that my wife and I ever got into was, like, about relativism versus absolutism. Because she was like, you're. Because she was like, you're a relativist, so how can I. And this was so funny because she was like, this is early in our relationship when we were first dating. And she was like, how can I. How can I trust that you will feel anything the same way tomorrow? Like. Like, tomorrow you could go. You could wake up and go and go, I don't want this anymore. Like, how can I depend on you? And I was like. And I was. At the time. I wouldn't say this today, but, like. Because I'm smarter, but, like, at the time, I was like. I was like, yeah. I mean, tomorrow I could. But. But isn't that true about everything in life? And she was like, I can't be with you. Like, you're totally undependable. Like. Like you're. I don't know where you're going to. It was like an episode of Sex in the City. Because it was like, she was like, so. Like, oh, my God, if I can't depend on you to be here forever. And you know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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And I was like, coming from. We can't depend on anything. We don't even know if the world is going to be here.

[A]

This is so true.

[B]

You know?

[A]

This is like, true.

[B]

What are you talking about? To me, it was like. It was like she was just like talking some other language and she was going, wait, but I need you to say that I'm here. I'm the certainty. Absolute ism. The certainty. And I was like, I'm water.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Like I just flow. I don't know.

[A]

We could go anywhere at any time. It's so true.

[B]

It's like that George Harrison song, you know?

[A]

Listen. Another Pisces.

[B]

Another Pisces. There you go. Exactly. Yeah. You know you know, across the universe. I don't know. I don't know. What is that?

[A]

Which one is that? I love across the universe.

[B]

That's. You ask me Will, my love.

[A]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, so good.

[B]

Well, I don't know.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

That's such a Pisces.

[A]

Such a good song. Yes.

[B]

Such a Pisces song.

[A]

I'm not even in a relationship, and you're reminding me of all the reasons why. Because sometimes you're like, I don't know.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I don't know. Now I have my children, and I do know.

[B]

That's the thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

There's the. When. When it's your kid, it's different because you're like. I'm, like, in it for the long. There's.

[A]

Our souls are combined.

[B]

Yes. You know?

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And. And, yeah, it's a different thing. Like. Like, you realize that, like, once you. When you have a child, you're like, well, I'm in this.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Forever, and it doesn't matter.

[A]

No.

[B]

Like, there's no exit.

[A]

Nothing.

[B]

No. There's no way. You know.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And. And. And that is the thing you realize about when you're married as well. Like, you go like, oh, like, either one of us would. Would throw the other one under a bus for him. Like. Like. Like. Like, if she came down to it, she had to choose.

[A]

I mean, and I also really kind of respect that, and I would imagine she does, too. Right. Because you've made this. Yeah.

[B]

Together. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's. You know, and. And that is the. I mean, that is. And in a weird way, like, it's. It. Our son benefits from the fact that my wife and I are such opposites. We're not entirely making it sound like we're. So there's a lot of overlap and a lot of areas where we are actually quite similar because it. Finally, she has a Pisces moon. Yay. So, you know, that's good. She sees herself as, like, you know, like, it's interesting.

[A]

Like, that's good.

[B]

So there's a lot of overlap in that way, but he gets the benefit of.

[A]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Of my sort of, you know, creativity and sort of, like, it's all fine. It's all right. And then her kind of like, no, we have to be on time at school. And I'm like, everybody's a little bit late.

[A]

So funny. I think my Aries rising helps me with that a little bit. Right. Because. And also, like, when I did decide to be a single mom, I was like, oh, I've gotta. I've gotta try to ground myself to the planet Earth.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Because that's what these kids need, right? So I really work at that.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it is that. And you. And you know, look, there are some times that I'm just like, you got to. You got to put your shoes on at some point. Like, at some point today we have to get the shoes on.

[A]

That's a joy for a kid because I feel like our world is all about like, here, here, here, here. Do this, do that. Go faster. Yeah, it's great. That's going to give you some breathing room. Yeah, I try to.

[B]

And what I've realized is that, you know, I. I had a kid later in life, and so.

[A]

Me too.

[B]

And so I'm like, you know, you get a little bit sort of jaded and you sort of, like, seen it all. Like, you, like. But then you go, oh, right. Like, he's just in this play. My son is. Is in play mode all the time. He's in his imaginary. Like, he got up this morning and decided. He was. He has this little box of Band Aids, like, like, kitty Band Aids. And he was like, I'm the Band Aid man. And he's like running around the house screaming, I'm the Band Aid man. Does anybody need a Band Aid? Is anybody hurt?

[A]

They're sore.

[B]

And so. And we're just trying to like, go like, dude, you just gotta get your shoes on. Just get your shoes on. He's like, I'm the Band Aid. And I'm like, oh, I. You know, like, he's in his own, like, imaginary world. It's beautiful and it's a beautiful thing and. But it's that balance of, like, that is beautiful. And I love you because of all that.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

And at the same time, we do

[A]

need to go to school. Totally. I. I'm. I'm there as well. And also with. With my own self. Right. You know what I mean? Like, you know, especially, like, when I have to do things like where I have to look back, I can just go back like yesterday when I was having to rewatch this. I'm just back there. But then I'm also here with all the loss that we've had, thus the Julian. Elisa come. And I cried like five times. You know what I mean? But I love them and it's fine. And my sweet listeners put up with me. But then you're here and you have your whole. Your whole life, which is fascinating and joy, you know, and we can go there, which is also Wonderful.

[B]

Right.

[A]

And the show has all those things in it and also was so long ago, but is still alive. Like, it's interesting.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

Right?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, it's all very interesting. Interesting. Yeah.

[B]

So great that you get to, like, sort of revisit it and. And it is. And process through all that again.

[A]

Wait, I have a question.

[B]

What?

[A]

Are you a Charlotte?

[B]

Oh, I don't know if I'm a Charlotte.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

I don't think I am.

[A]

Who do you think you are?

[B]

Maybe I'm more of a Carry.

[A]

I kind of think you could be a Carrie. Yeah, I like that.

[B]

I'm a little bit more neurotic and sort of, you know, unsure.

[A]

Yeah. She's figuring things out.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

She's curious.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm a writer as well, so, you know, I'm just. Yeah. I don't think I'm as fastidious as. As Charlotte.

[A]

Well, listen, neither am I. You know, I mean, she's very. That's why I feel like she's a Virgo, but I don't think she technically is a Virgo. But, like, she seems like a Virgo. She seems like a Virgo, doesn't she?

[B]

Right.

[A]

I agree. I agree totally.

[B]

She seems. But. But then she seems like a Virgo with a Pisces moon.

[A]

Definitely. Definitely. Like your wife, maybe.

[B]

My wife is a Charlotte.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

She's very good. She's very good at entertaining, so. Well, and Charlotte, I think, is very good.

[A]

Very into entertaining.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah.

[A]

So that's true.

[B]

So there you go.

[A]

Many, many connections. I like it. Thank you so much for having me for being here. I can't wait to watch your show.

[B]

Yeah, please do. The Miniature Wife.

[A]

Super curious.

[B]

I'm on Broadway and fallen angels until June 7th.

[A]

Amazing.

[B]

And then we never really talked about it, but I have another show, a horror show, what. Called Terror, Devil and Silver, that's coming out on May 7th.

[A]

Where?

[B]

AMC/ AMC and shudder. And then later in the year, it'll come out on regular amc. But it's like. It's like a.

[A]

Well, it really does seem like you've been only working. I know.

[B]

It does seem that way. And I was saying to you before, like. Yeah, it's like everything comes out at once. And then people are like, you just every. Just take it.

[A]

And I'm like.

[B]

I'm mostly just in my house.

[A]

Just say thank you. Thank you. It's going well.

[B]

It's going well.

[A]

It's going great, and I'm so happy for you.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Thanks so much.

[A]

I want you to be on Gilded Age as well.

[B]

I do, too. Yes.

[A]

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