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Monica Padman
Hi.
Dax Shepard
My favorite prompt.
Monica Padman
Oh, it's your favorite.
Dax Shepard
What's your favorite prompt?
Monica Padman
Gosh, that's like picking children.
Dax Shepard
Meet cute.
Monica Padman
I love meet cute. No, I like these.
Dax Shepard
Okay. Unauthorized evacuation to. Baloney.
Doug
It's the second time we've done that specific prompt. We've done plenty of shitty prompts that.
Dax Shepard
Are more specifically through a broader net. Okay, we went back to a broader net and once again, guys, it's perfect.
Monica Padman
They're so fun. They deliver.
Dax Shepard
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Tony
I had them both.
Dax Shepard
Shining. Hi Doug Douglas or Doug.
Doug
I just go by Doug.
Dax Shepard
Okay, great. Doug, where are you?
Doug
I am in St. George, Utah.
Dax Shepard
I love St. George. That's right. When you enter out of Arizona and it turns all red and pretty.
Doug
Yep, it's great. Just like an hour and a half outside of Vegas. If you're an outdoorsy person, it's a great place.
Dax Shepard
And a lot of pants shitting happening over there, not here.
Doug
So this story actually takes place out in Jacksonville, North Carolina, May of 2018. I was stationed out there in Camp Johnson because I was in the Marine Corps Reserves. So I was out there for my mos training for my occupation in the military.
Dax Shepard
What's mos?
Doug
I was a motor vehicle mechanic.
Dax Shepard
Good for you.
Doug
Just to kind of give you a little backstory. So it was the end of the week. It was a Sunday night. All my buddies and me were getting together in my barracks room for just an end of week celebration. So we decided to order this big pizza. We ended up devouring the whole thing. It was great toppings. Oh gol. It was all meat pizza. It was like pepperoni, sausage, anything you can think of, meat. And next morning floats around. And every morning we have to be outside in front of the barracks at right around like five in the morning. So usually I wake up, do your morning business, take care of whatever, and then head on outside for the morning run. This particular morning, however, I did not have enough time to wake up and do everything that I needed to. So woke up late, was scrambling to get my clothes together, slapped on my workout shorts.
Monica Padman
Are the shorts loose or are they tight like bike shorts?
Doug
Very flowy green running shorts. Start to head outside and I already know I'm not feeling too well. Something's going on down there. And I was like, well, this is the worst stomach ache I felt a long time, but didn't have time to really go about it.
Dax Shepard
How long is the run scheduled to be?
Doug
It's like seven plus miles each morning.
Monica Padman
And also, are you allowed to call in sick?
Dax Shepard
No, that's for civilians. But he's lost Me so many times at, like, anything where I would have to be at attention at 5am which means I'd have to get up at 4am because my movement takes a little finessing. I've got to have coffee and nicotine.
Monica Padman
Not if you're in the Marines. You can't do any of that.
Dax Shepard
Well, I know I just have to wake up at 4 to get this whole thing running.
Monica Padman
Do they let you have nicotine there?
Dax Shepard
Of course.
Doug
They all do do. But you're not supposed to really have it, like on the job.
Monica Padman
Yeah, you're not supposed to.
Dax Shepard
Okay. I was over in Afghanistan twice, and 90% of the people were dipping.
Monica Padman
Listen, Doug is right here in front of us.
Dax Shepard
Okay, Doug, do a lot of the guys dip?
Doug
Oh, yeah. Dipping was a huge thing.
Dax Shepard
Let's let the soldiers talk, Monica. Let's let the. Oh, my God.
Monica Padman
Disgusting. Okay, go on, Doug. Go on.
Dax Shepard
Sorry, Doug.
Doug
So we start out on this run. We get probably two and a half miles into it. I really have to go at this point. And so the sergeant who's leading the platoon in this run, he's up at the front, and I'm about four Marines back run up to the front. And I was like, hey, Sergeant, I have to go. Is there anywhere I can go? And he's like, no. It's 5:45 in the morning. Nothing's even open. There's barracks around us and like office buildings, but nothing's open. So he's like, you're just gonna have to hold it. I'm sorry. I get back into formation. Just keep running. House. Regretting all of my life decisions at this point. And I probably ran for another like 15 minutes or so. And at this point, it was not happening. Shit was starting to flow. I was prairie dogging. It was bad.
Monica Padman
Oh, no, this is so sad.
Dax Shepard
Well, this is. You gotta get tough.
Monica Padman
No, no. Bodies are bodies.
Doug
We're on this paved road and there's a little ravine off to the right. At this point, I don't even care about humiliation. I need to go. And so I barely make it down into this little ravine. Pull my shorts down, they're about down to my knees, I'd say. And my ass is out in the woods and my head is sticking out of the woods and everything behind me is at this point getting painted. It's like a Jackson Pollock painting in brown.
Dax Shepard
It was an explosion.
Doug
It was an explosion.
Monica Padman
Hey, sorry, that's a little sensitive because it's the military.
Dax Shepard
Well, hold on. They specialize in.
Monica Padman
We don't know about ptsd. I don't know.
Doug
We gotta be sensitive at this point. Everything is going to hell. My shorts are covered, my shoes are covered, my socks are all covered.
Dax Shepard
Really quick. Did the sergeant peep what was happening?
Doug
Yeah, they were calling it out. I dipped off into the woods and all this is happening and they can't leave you. So this platoon just keeps doing U turns running by me as I'm shitting my brains out on the side of the road. So all of my buddies, 35 to 40 guys, probably are just running past laughing their asses off at this point. I'm very embarrassed. Most embarrassing moment of my life because all my buddies are seeing me like this. So finally about, like the fourth or fifth pass by, the sergeant's finally like, hey, you take care of you. You do whatever you have to do. We'll meet you back in formation after the morning chow hall. So he takes everybody to morning chow, and I'm left just by myself. Me and like Smokey the Bear out in the woods. Nobody's even there. And this is about a mile from my barracks where I have to get back to to change.
Dax Shepard
Oh, and you're just covered.
Doug
Yeah, I have like one of two options in my head. I can either put back on my shorts and my underwear and they're soaked and run back to the barracks just covered in shit, or I can leave them there and run back just with my shirt and my shoes.
Dax Shepard
So. Oh, wow.
Doug
For whatever reason, I chose the latter.
Dax Shepard
There was a third option on the table, which is remove your T shirt and then like step through the armholes and make a little diap. You could have covered your testicles.
Monica Padman
I mean, it is a good solution, but I wouldn't have thought, okay, so.
Dax Shepard
You chose to run back with your dicky buck.
Monica Padman
We need the poo style.
Doug
Yeah, yeah. So at this point, I have the shirt long enough down where it covers my junk, but I'm just in my white sneakers that are now white shade of brown and my white socks and I'm running back to the barracks and I am worried about everything because a base higher up could see you. Like, there's a lot of different factors that could happen if I get caught streaking on a military base.
Dax Shepard
Yes.
Doug
We finally make it back to the barracks. And I was like, I can't let my roommates know what happened. So I just strip down to nothing, run inside, shower. I Febreze the whole room. You can't smell a thing. I was very proud of myself. So I get back out and I have to dispose of the evidence. So I toss it in the trash can, get dressed, and I meet them in formation after they get done in the chow hall so we can head to our normal classes and stuff throughout the day. So I was feeling great about myself. They checked in on me. They were like, hey, you good? And I'm like, yep, I'm good. Second part of the story. We march back to wherever we were going for our training that day. And about an hour or so into the training, I'm sitting there, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, my hands are getting so warm, and my ass is on fire. And I was like, what's going on?
Nicole
No.
Doug
And then it occurred to me that out in the woods, I had nothing to clean myself up with. And the trees behind me had these pretty decently large leaves. And so I was like, this is all I can do to clean myself up. So I grab these leaves and I start wiping myself off. And I was like, great. This works. Everything's left in the woods. It's done with. And so now it's starting to occur to me, like, what did I wipe my ass with?
Monica Padman
This is horrible.
Doug
It ended up being poison oak. Then another half an hour or so goes by, and it was on fire. At this point, I needed to get like hell. It was burning. And so I asked the same sergeant who had taken me on the run, like, hey, I need to go to the doctor.
Dax Shepard
He's like, doug, you're a disgrace to this unit.
Monica Padman
Yeah, what if he kicked you out of America?
Doug
So he's like, do what you need. Just take care of yourself. Get better. So he sends me to the doctor, which is probably two miles down the road, I'd say. And so at this point, chafe on level 10, and it's May, so it's already hot and humid in Carolina. They gave me some ointment and medication, and it ended up clearing up in, like, two weeks. So I was in pain, and I still had to go on the morning runs.
Dax Shepard
Oh, geez. They have all these really intense tests of durability and resilience. They should add this to, like, seal training. Now shit in the woods. Now wipe with this. And now carry on. I would argue what you went through is about as tough as a situation as you can find yourself in.
Doug
It was very unpleasant. But moral of the story is, if you order a big pizza, don't eat it and try to run the next morning.
Dax Shepard
That's.
Monica Padman
I wouldn't have thought, a pizza. I mean, the meat, something, probably. But it was only you.
Dax Shepard
I'm not willing to blame the pizza.
Monica Padman
I think it was the case of.
Dax Shepard
The painful pepperoni pizza. No. Are you still in the service?
Doug
I actually get out my contract in September 11th of this next month, so I'm out.
Dax Shepard
And did you like it?
Doug
I loved it. It was to do once, but I wouldn't do it again.
Dax Shepard
Okay. Oh, well, Doug, that was so much fun. Thank you.
Monica Padman
Sorry that happened.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, me too.
Doug
Thank you guys so much for meeting with me this morning.
Dax Shepard
Of course.
Monica Padman
Bye. Okay, I just had a full revelation.
Dax Shepard
What is it, do you think?
Monica Padman
Winnie the Pooh. The reason he only wears a shirt is because he pooped everywhere and that's why his name's Winnie the Pooh.
Dax Shepard
Or I think it's so he. He doesn't poop himself because he's Winnie the Pooh. He poops a lot and he couldn't risk putting pants on.
Nicole
Okay.
Monica Padman
It's similar.
Dax Shepard
It is. It is. It's just. What direction?
Monica Padman
I just wish you would let me just have my ideas.
Dax Shepard
Okay, I did let you. It's still your idea.
Monica Padman
One time he pooped in his pants. Right.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Monica Padman
He was like, oh, I can't be wearing pants anymore.
Dax Shepard
I'm not built for these.
Monica Padman
Yeah. And so then he became.
Dax Shepard
His name was Winnie, which is interesting.
Monica Padman
Original. Winnie is from Wonder Years.
Dax Shepard
It's a female name.
Monica Padman
And then he pooped, and then he became Winnie the Pooh and he took off his shorts forever.
Dax Shepard
I never overthought the name. But it's a wild name because it's a woman's name. And then Pooh.
Monica Padman
And it's the Pooh.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. Good for them. They snuck that right by us.
Monica Padman
Hi, how are you?
Dax Shepard
Do you have a fake name in mind?
Mickey
I don't. I was gonna see if y' all could pick one.
Dax Shepard
Mickey.
Mickey
I love that. I'll take.
Dax Shepard
Can you guess why I chose that?
Mickey
Monica's repping it.
Dax Shepard
Yes, exactly.
Monica Padman
I'm wearing a Mickey shirt for the listener.
Dax Shepard
Mickey, where are you?
Mickey
I am in South Texas. Kind of along the Gulf coast area.
Dax Shepard
Oh, okay, great. And you want a fake name, which means this is either ultra embarrassing or there was some illegality to this evacuation. Both are exciting.
Mickey
Not illegal, just incredibly embarrassing. Just saving the shame for my mom in case she ever hears.
Monica Padman
Looking out for the parents.
Dax Shepard
Right. I understand.
Mickey
For context, I went to a. A very, very small school. This takes place in junior high, so that is critical information.
Dax Shepard
Okay, Mickey, I can't think of a worse time for this kind of an event to happen than junior high.
Mickey
Absolutely. Unlike you, Dax, I Was not cool in junior high. That was not my time to shine.
Dax Shepard
I'm sorry.
Mickey
Oh no, it's fine. I'm great now.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Mickey
But I went to a very small school. Our entire school fit on one city block. Even our junior high and high school were in the same building. So as junior high kids walk the hallway with high school students.
Dax Shepard
Dangerous.
Mickey
Yeah. Very intimidating.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Mickey
Being at a small school, everybody plays every sport whether you're good or not. You're almost begged to to make teams complete. So this takes place circa 2007. I was in seventh grade on the basketball team and I was not a star athlete. I was a very chunky, very round kid. I was a good try.
Dax Shepard
Okay, great. A lot of heart.
Mickey
I'm us the personality hire. I rode the bench a lot, but I still went to every game and still showed up.
Dax Shepard
When they put you in what position were you playing?
Mickey
Oh, I don't know. Playing. Please don't pass me the ball.
Dax Shepard
Stay away from the ball position.
Mickey
We had an out of town game this night and being small schools, you usually have to travel pretty far to go to another small school. And it's always two lane back roads through no stoplight towns until you get to your no stoplight town which is home. So the game went off fine. After the game was over, tradition was that you change into your street clothes. We dump all of our uniforms in the dirty bag, the coach takes them back to the gym, washes them for the next game and we're all riding home in our street clothes. On the way home we always stop at somewhere very Texas. A water burger, a Dairy Queen, something along those lines where the only options are greasy burger, greasy chicken, strip. So I'm sure I had one of those two options on this evening.
Dax Shepard
And how long was the ride do you think?
Mickey
Probably right at about an hour. Pretty much all back roads in between. So we all load up on the bus and I get the covented cool back seat. You know the one in the very back of the bus that's the single seat because you don't have to share with anyone.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Mickey
So I was like, I'm cool. I'm in seventh grade, I've got the cool seat and I've got. And so everything's going fine. It's dark on the bus, none of the windows really rolled down. It's old bus so it's just quiet. Everybody has their headphones in listening to music on our ipod nanos at the time. And I just feel this gut punch of a pinch in my stomach and it Just hits me like a wave. And I just start getting a little sweaty on my forehead. And then it turns into full body chills. And this all takes takes place in a span of about 90 seconds. Oh, and if you've ever played sports or rode a school bus, you know there's no point in even asking to stop because it's not going to happen. And in this case, there's literally nowhere for the bus to even pull over. There's not shoulders on these roads.
Dax Shepard
It'd be pulling into a ditch.
Mickey
Exactly. Which I would have been fine with for sure. So I feel this rush of anxiety, this rush of heat, full body sweat come over me. And the next thing I know, I just. Just explode.
Monica Padman
No warning, no warning.
Dax Shepard
No warning. You weren't even, like, fighting it.
Mickey
It just came over me, like, literally exploded. And it was so bad, it filled up my jeans. It went up and out the back. It was all over the seat.
Dax Shepard
Oh, no, mama, it's a bucket. It sounds like. Oh.
Mickey
To this day, I have never seen that much diarrhea in.
Monica Padman
Oh, my Lord.
Dax Shepard
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Therapy's so important to get ahead of things. People think you go Once something bad has already happened.
Dax Shepard
But ounce of prevention.
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Exactly. It's huge.
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Monica Padman
Were there high schoolers on the bus too?
Mickey
No, luckily this was only junior high, but it was still, you know, about 25 of my peers, which is not ideal. It just starts moving up the bus, row by row, tidal wave of smell. And you just start to hear, oh, God, what's that? And someone said, oh, my God, did somebody fart? And all I could think was, babe, I wish.
Monica Padman
Were you considering being like, I know, ew, what is that?
Mickey
At this point, I knew I was gonna have to make peace with my mess. Cause there was no hiding it. Like I said, it was all up my back, all over the seat, all in my jeans.
Dax Shepard
Oh, there was no.
Mickey
Let me just quick change into other pants.
Dax Shepard
This sounds very much like a baby's diaper. You know, this is like a baby diaper situation. Yeah.
Mickey
Yes. I just had a baby. And we just had our first blowout. So it brought back trauma.
Monica Padman
Yes.
Mickey
There's a piece of this where I definitely trauma blocked. I don't 100% remember, but I know the girls just started moving up to the front of the bus. They're like three deep piled in the seats in the front two rows. Like I said, the windows wouldn't roll down, so the few windows that were. They're like breathing out of it.
Dax Shepard
Or the adults, like, oh, my God.
Monica Padman
I can imagine adults be like, girls, get to the front.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah, run.
Mickey
There was one adult, and she was driving the bus.
Dax Shepard
Oh, no.
Mickey
Someone must have put together, like, this is more than a fart. Someone shit their pants. And probably it was evident that it was me because I was the only one not making my way to the.
Nicole
Front of the bus.
Monica Padman
What if you also just started going up?
Dax Shepard
Think of this tableau, of how sad this is. Like the reverse shot of this little girl.
Mickey
There's nowhere to stop, so I just had to sit in my shitty pool of mess. You know, the back of the bus is the most bouncy.
Monica Padman
It is splish, splash.
Mickey
Yeah. Until we pulled into a Walmart, and it was like a very small Walmart before they were like super Walmart. So the bus driver makes her way to the back with that can of sawdust that they usually put on throw up and a pair of gloves.
Dax Shepard
Did all the kids get off the bus immediately and just you and her now?
Mickey
Yes.
Dax Shepard
Okay.
Mickey
And so she walks to the back and assesses the situation, and literally she says, oh, God, what did you do, drop your britches to poop?
Dax Shepard
Oh.
Mickey
I said, no, ma'. Am. It was just that much.
Dax Shepard
Oh, Lord.
Mickey
So she kind of sprinkles some sawdust on there.
Monica Padman
What is the sawdust supposed to do? Neutralize the smell.
Dax Shepard
Keep it from splashing around. It absorbs it. Then you can also sweep it up. Now, you can't sweep up, throw up, but if you get it all in that sawdust, you can't.
Mickey
Yeah. And I don't know if sawdust is designed for diarrhea or just throw up, you know, the different makeup. So it may not have worked very well, but she was working with what she had. Like, we all were.
Nicole
Sure.
Mickey
So she goes to the uniform bag, and this is the callback of where I was a very chunky kid. So she goes to the uniform bag, and she just kind of Fishes for probably the biggest one she can find. Not my uniform to put on to give me a clean pair of clothes. So she hands me this random uniform and says, okay, go into Walmart. Clean yourself up, change. So I'm waddling through Walmart, probably dripping shit, just this trail of smell, probably following me. So I go in there also. All the other girls decided to take this time to come in there and use the bathroom. So I'm, you know, can you wet this toilet paper and hand it back to me so I could clean myself up? Oh my God. At this point it was like, swallow your pride and get it done. So I come out of the bathroom wearing someone else's uniform. Poor number 13. You know, every time they put that uniform on the rest of the season, we're probably like, these are the. This shitty uniform. So we all load up in the bus. The bus driver had called my mom because I don't even think I had a cell phone at this point. And you know, I was like, you need to be there because it's like 10 o' clock at night by the time we get back to the school. So luckily it had happened right before Thanksgiving break. So my mom let me stay home for two days because I think she just knew that's way too embarrassing.
Dax Shepard
Let everyone have their fun for a couple days, then we'll go on break and hopefully the rugs will have died down in 10 days.
Monica Padman
Do you think people thought you, like, died?
Mickey
That would have been great. I might have gotten some sympathy out of it, maybe. There was a rumor about that going around. The really only blowback, no pun intended, after I got back to school after the Thanksgiving break was one girl in art class did come up specifically and sit next to me and said, did you shit your pants on the school bus? And I was like, yeah. She was like, well, why'd you do that? And I was like, I couldn't help it.
Dax Shepard
Why'd you do that? Kids are so fucking stupid.
Nicole
Kids are so stupid.
Mickey
It took me probably 10 years to be able to speak about this out loud. It was something I just buried. But truthfully, listening to Yalls podcast, hearing the other unauthorized survivors.
Dax Shepard
The survivors, yeah, I'm not the only one.
Mickey
So I figured if I can survive that, I can survive anything. I truly think that's why I don't get embarrassed anymore. I'm probably more confident than I should be. It's definitely because this traumatic event happened in my formative years and I was fine now having a little baby girl too. I told my husband I Was nervous to come on and tell this story because it is embarrassing. But I said I want her to know it's okay to be embarrassed. You'll survive. So I can't wait to show her this at some point.
Monica Padman
Oh, wow.
Mickey
I told my best friend I was coming on to tell this story. She said, oh, my gosh. Which story are you going to tell? The airplane story or the school bus one?
Monica Padman
Oh, great.
Dax Shepard
You've your pants more than once.
Mickey
Oh, it happens like every six months or so.
Dax Shepard
You're kind of like a dude. I like that. Yeah, we could hang.
Monica Padman
This could be a sphincter issue. Well, I don't want to say issue.
Dax Shepard
But I think you're perfect as designed.
Mickey
I think it's a character building design, but. Yeah, character building design.
Nicole
There we go.
Monica Padman
Oh, that was great.
Dax Shepard
Oh, I love that Mickey. Poor Mickey on that bus. Everyone deserved it. She was a woman without a country.
Monica Padman
They had to do what they needed to do for them too.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, I don't blame them, but man, but it's sad.
Monica Padman
It's a sad scene.
Mickey
I felt so bad that so many people were also affected because usually you poop your pants and it's a pretty insulated event. Maybe one other people are not. 25 of your peers in junior high are also participating in the misery.
Dax Shepard
This is about as bad as it could get. Save maybe hooking up with your dream crush.
Monica Padman
And you got that. At least that didn't happen.
Dax Shepard
But other than that, a seventh grade school bus is. Is really gotta be up there.
Mickey
Yeah, it was pretty rough.
Dax Shepard
Well, Mickey, thank you. That was delightful.
Monica Padman
Thank you for sharing it. You're very brave.
Mickey
Thank you.
Dax Shepard
Well, lovely meeting you. Yes.
Monica Padman
So nice to meet you.
Dax Shepard
Beat the heat down there.
Mickey
I will. I'm trying.
Dax Shepard
Okay. All right, take care.
Monica Padman
Bye. Bye.
Dax Shepard
Thank you, Monica, for this beverage.
Monica Padman
Well, Rob ordered it.
Dax Shepard
Thank you, Rob, for this beverage. You got it. I don't know why I thought it was on your account somehow.
Monica Padman
Well, it was my idea.
Dax Shepard
It was going to be. Hi, Tony.
Monica Padman
Hello.
Tony
How's it going?
Dax Shepard
We just got some beverages that were ordered by Rob and Monica and they've just arrived and we're so excited.
Doug
Cheers.
Dax Shepard
Guys, look at this.
Monica Padman
What do you have? What's your beverage?
Dax Shepard
Yeah, what do you got going?
Tony
I'm a cold brew fanatic.
Dax Shepard
Boot. Where are you at today, Tony?
Tony
Well, I live in New Orleans, but at the moment I'm on a road trip. I'm in Asheville, North Carolina, at an Airbnb.
Dax Shepard
I'm going in October.
Tony
Have you been?
Dax Shepard
Oh, yeah. Many Times. But Aaron and I are going to go on a motorcycle trip and be based out of there and explore.
Tony
That's very beautiful. The coffee scene is next level.
Dax Shepard
Oh, is it? Okay, so from New Orleans, but in.
Tony
Asheville, not from New Orleans. I've been living there for 10 years. I'm originally from Omaha, Nebraska.
Monica Padman
Wow. All over the map.
Dax Shepard
I'll say. You're getting a taste of everywhere. All right, so where did this unauthorized evacuation take place?
Tony
This unauthorized evacuation took place in my hometown in Omaha. Surprisingly not New Orleans. I would imagine plenty of people have shit themselves on the.
Monica Padman
Oh yeah.
Dax Shepard
Oh, yeah, Yeah. I got bourbon faced on Shit Street. It's my favorite shirt.
Tony
That's a great T shirt, isn't it?
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Tony
So yeah, this took place in Omaha circa 2012. I have to provide some context in two ways. The first is I had a very boring day job. So to spice things up a bit, I took a job moonlighting as a bartender. It was at this three story sushi and sake lounge called Blue Sushi. They now have like 20 locations across the country. A couple in Nashville, by the way, shout out to my homies at Blue Sushi. It's arguably the busiest restaurant in Omaha. Very high volume, very popular. And the other thing you need to know is I lived in an apartment building across the street. This was all in the old Market district of Omaha. I also have to tell you about Jason, who is the manager of our apartment building. Great manager, very fun guy, very sociable. Everybody's friend, loved to party. Also my neighbor. So Jason and I shared a wall. It was a very busy Friday night at the bar. I was working on the third floor, a private party packed house, having a great time, working with my friend Cassie, taking some shots. And then all of a sudden this like grenade goes off in my gut. And my body did not give me any heads up on this.
Dax Shepard
Had you eaten any fish prior to your shift?
Tony
As I recall, I did not eat any fish. I don't know if this was something I. But there was no warning. I was feeling great. And then I sharted.
Dax Shepard
Oh, okay. And you're on the floor with the.
Tony
Customers at this point, I am behind the bar. I could feel it. I could smell it.
Dax Shepard
Oh.
Tony
And I knew that this was not the end. I didn't know what was coming, but I knew it was not going to be good. And so I tell Cassie, you got a cover for me? And now I'm like frantically weighing my options because there are only two bathrooms in this whole establishment. The first is on the first floor which is only equipped for a one man show. And it's adjacent to the dining room and it's like perpetually occupied. I don't want to do that. And the other bathroom's on the second floor. It's like a party in there and I don't want to subject anybody to what I'm about to do. I did the only thing that made sense to me. I ran down the stairs, I ran across the street, I ran to my apartment building. And then I meet my nemesis, which is the elevator.
Dax Shepard
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Tony
So this is like the slowest, rickettiest, most unpredictable elevator, and I'm just standing there waiting and hoping and praying. Doing the I'm gonna shit my pants dance.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. Oh, I'm getting chills. Yeah. Yeah.
Tony
I thought about walking up the stairs, which is like five flights of stairs.
Dax Shepard
No way.
Tony
Anyway, the elevator comes, I get in the elevator, and before I can get to my floor, the fifth floor is like turning on a garden hose. I know you're gonna ask about size and consistency. It just, like, ran down my leg and gets in my shoe, and then it ends up in, like, a perfectly round puddle on the floor of the elevator.
Monica Padman
Oh, cute.
Dax Shepard
Hold on a second. So you got a lot of work on your plate now because you're gonna have to, like, somehow get the elevator to stay in position while you go inside to get some stuff to clean it, and you're covered. What a logistical fucking nightmare.
Tony
I have a lot of decisions to make because first of all, thank God there was nobody waiting for the elevator when the door opened. I don't know what exactly to do. I'm an upstanding citizen. I like to think I'm not just going to shit in in my own elevator and then, like, not clean it up, but I have to, like, finish shitting. I'm like, do I do that first? Do I try and clean the elevator first?
Dax Shepard
It's kind of a riddle. It's one of these. You've got a chicken, a fox, and a bag of grain, and you gotta cross the river and go back and make.
Monica Padman
Only these can go together.
Tony
Even if I do go clean. How would that even work? Do I have to, like, crop open the elevator? I don't have, like, a janitorial bucket or supplies or anything. So I just run back to my apartment and just finish.
Monica Padman
Yes, that's wise.
Tony
I feel great, and I turn on the shower. I kind of wash myself off. I change my pants, flip on the.
Dax Shepard
Tv.
Monica Padman
Crack a beer.
Dax Shepard
Call me mom.
Tony
And then I, like, grab some paper towels and some Windex or some shit. That was, like, all I had. And I run back to the elevator. I get in the elevator and it's already cleaned up.
Dax Shepard
Oh, no.
Tony
I'm confused. But I'm just like, all right, fuck it. So I went back to work. So I run back across the street. I get back there, and Leah, my friend, who is also the manager, is fucking pissed. She's like, where the hell were you? And I'm like. Like, leah, I'm wearing different pants.
Dax Shepard
Great. That's an elegant way to say it.
Tony
Then I finished my shift. I kind of forgot about the whole thing.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. Good night. Tips. More shots?
Tony
Yeah.
Monica Padman
Some fish.
Tony
And then I get home and it's like, you know, 1:32 in the morning, I get in the elevator, and there's a sign in the elevator handwritten by Jason that says, whoever in this elevator is out of here with, like, 14 explanation points.
Dax Shepard
Oh, boy.
Tony
I didn't really know what to do. I lived in the building for four more years after that. Just, like, harboring this secret. Perpetually afraid that I was, like, gonna get evicted if he found out. So that's the story and I guess my confession. So, Jason, if you're listening, I'm really sorry, dude.
Monica Padman
It was an accident. He thinks someone did it.
Dax Shepard
How do you, as a. Fuck you. Yes. It was like an act of terror or something. And you're lucky, too, there wasn't any shit. Shoe prints walking to your apartment.
Tony
I got lucky in a multitude of ways. There were no witnesses. There were no residents coming in out of the elevator.
Dax Shepard
You had two options. I think you chose right. Which is. The other one would have been to buy his favorite bottle of whiskey and come over and been like, hey, man, I'm the worst. I'm so sorry. I know it must have been terrible to clean. I came back to clean it up. You got enough. No. That would have been your only other.
Monica Padman
Option, but you did what everyone would do.
Dax Shepard
It's not too late to track him down and get him a nice Shivas Regal or something, you know?
Tony
Hopefully he hears this.
Dax Shepard
He's such a good Time Charlie, I hope he's still alive. And to be honest, it sounds like he was burning the candle at both ends.
Tony
I know for a fact he's still alive.
Dax Shepard
Okay, good, good, good, good.
Tony
I saw him the last time I was in Omaha. Of course, I was thinking about this the whole time I was talking to him.
Monica Padman
This is good. You finally get to relax.
Dax Shepard
Release this. Yeah. Unburdened yourself. Well, Tony, thank you. That was great.
Tony
I don't know what my spontaneous road trips would be without your Podcast, So thank you guys so much.
Dax Shepard
Oh, thanks, man. Thanks so much.
Monica Padman
So nice to chat with you.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. Have a great rest of your trip.
Tony
It was a pleasure.
Dax Shepard
All right, take care.
Monica Padman
Bye. God, our bodies will really betray us.
Dax Shepard
They can become our worst enemies. You know, your brain is a hostile place. It's not a safe place. Your brain and your body can attack you. You.
Monica Padman
I know.
Dax Shepard
Our biggest enemy really is ourselves. It always is.
Monica Padman
Hi.
Dax Shepard
Hi. Nicole.
Nicole
Hi, Dax and Monica.
Dax Shepard
How are you? What pretty wallpaper behind you. I love the delicate little blue flowers on the vines.
Nicole
And there's birds in it.
Dax Shepard
There are birds. Did you apply that to the wall or. It came with the residents.
Nicole
I did it myself.
Dax Shepard
Oh, good. Where are you currently?
Nicole
I'm on Vancouver Island.
Dax Shepard
I would say we've had a disproportionate amount of folks from Vancouver island island, considering how sparsely populated it is.
Nicole
It is pretty sparsely populated and I'm from like a super rural town.
Dax Shepard
Were you anywhere near Pamela Anderson? Did she live there for a minute?
Nicole
Yeah, she's probably like three or four hours from me and she still has a house here. She lives in a small town too, and the locals see her all the time. So I'm just hoping casually I'll run into her at some point.
Dax Shepard
So how big is Vancouver island that you can drive? Three hours on it.
Nicole
So I'm at the bore northern tip and then for me to get to the southern tip, which would be Victoria, takes anywhere between like six and seven hours, depending.
Dax Shepard
Wow. Wow, it's huge.
Nicole
Yeah, it's pretty large.
Dax Shepard
I'm going to look at a map after this conversation. Yeah, I'm pretty interested. Okay. And is this where you had your unauthorized evacuation?
Nicole
No, I had it in Vancouver.
Dax Shepard
Oh, okay. Out on the town.
Nicole
Well, I was at my house on a date.
Dax Shepard
Oh. Oh, wonderful. Take us through slowly and tell us all the deets.
Nicole
Oh, I will.
Dax Shepard
Oh, I'm gonna stop you just for half a second because we had a gal on a minute ago who had shit herself on the seventh grade school bus, and I said that has to be the number one worst, excluding shitting yourself in front of your crush while getting intimate. So that's crazy. I said that. And it sounds like this might be heading.
Monica Padman
It might be heading there.
Nicole
A little foreshadowing maybe.
Dax Shepard
Yes.
Nicole
So years 2013, I'm around 24 years old. @ the time, I was living with a roommate who had a little boy, cutest little guy. He was around three years old. The week previous to this date, they had come down with the plague. So she said, probably don't stay at home.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, this week.
Nicole
And I was like, that's a solid. I'm going to go stay with a friend. So I stayed with a friend for that week. And then I got back to the house and like, it should be fine by now. And I have been casually seeing this guy for maybe a month. We gone on like two dates to a restaurant. And he said, hey, do you want to watch a movie tonight? I said, yeah, that would be amazing. And I'm pretty nervous. I'm an anxious girly. I don't have a living room. I only have my bedroom.
Dax Shepard
Okay. He's like, let's watch a movie. But at your house, in your bed?
Nicole
At my house.
Dax Shepard
And can I just ask, the previous two dates, was there any physical activity?
Nicole
Absolutely none.
Dax Shepard
Okay, great. So come watch a movie in my bed. It sounds like you must have been expecting there would be some intimacy that evening.
Nicole
I wasn't sure. I think I was maybe hoping that could happen. But also, we hadn't hugged yet, so I was kind of just hoping for hand holding.
Dax Shepard
Okay. Wow.
Monica Padman
But you know, hand holding is actually the most intimate thing you can do. More than anal.
Dax Shepard
According to Monica.
Monica Padman
That's a well known fact.
Nicole
Pretty sure he definitely wouldn't want to do that. He comes over. I'm so nervous. We go into my room. He's brought takeout and beer. So nice.
Dax Shepard
Oh, this is so fun. I want to do this.
Monica Padman
Oh, so he likes to eat food in bed. Some people don't like doing that.
Dax Shepard
Oh, I do.
Monica Padman
I do too. But some people are really against it.
Nicole
I don't love it, but I didn't have a kitchen. I didn't have a living room. It was my only option. So we sit in bed, we turn the lights off, we start this movie. So the only light in the room is coming from the television. He is, like starting to reach across the bed to hold my hand. We haven't cracked out the food yet and I get nervous and I immediately go and grab a beer instead and crack it.
Dax Shepard
Oh, okay.
Nicole
So I take a sip of my beer and I just put it down in my lap and I want it to be cozy. So I'm in like really light colored sweatpants pants. I start feeling my leg and it feels wet.
Dax Shepard
Oh, wow.
Nicole
And I am like, I wonder if I spilled my beer. I'm trying to be really discreet about it. He's still trying to make a move on me and I'm feeling my leg and it's progressed to my ankle.
Monica Padman
Oh, my God. You're not feeling anything?
Nicole
I feel nothing. I don't feel sick. I feel totally fine.
Dax Shepard
This is scary.
Nicole
Yeah. Like I must have spilled my beer. There must be a hole in the this bottle somehow. I have no idea what's happened. So I try to do like a little stiff test.
Dax Shepard
Oh sure.
Nicole
See if it's beer just to make sure. And I immediately am hit with ache.
Dax Shepard
Sulfur. Yeah. Oh, and now you've released it. I would be dealing with so many things at that moment. There's not just a shitting pants, but it's like, what the.
Monica Padman
Yeah. What's happening?
Dax Shepard
I didn't feel bad. I'm covered. Like I would almost feel like someone. My pants.
Monica Padman
I think I would say I. He did it. He my pants. And it got in my pants.
Dax Shepard
I mean, wow, this is so confusing.
Nicole
I panic and I'm like, hey, I'm just going to run to the bathroom for a hot second. And as I'm leaving, the movie gets bright.
Dax Shepard
Oh.
Nicole
I look at the bed and it is bright orange.
Monica Padman
Oh, what has happened here?
Dax Shepard
It's one of those oil diarrheas. Like the blockbuster.
Nicole
Yeah.
Dax Shepard
Had you had those sugar free gummy bears that day.
Nicole
I wish I read those reviews when I'm having a bad day.
Dax Shepard
Heavens. Or mercantroy.
Monica Padman
Did you consider just knocking over the beer? I think I would have knocked over the beer on purpose. Accident. So that like it's just a big mess. That would be like, oh, we gotta get up and out of here.
Dax Shepard
That would be the best move you could make. But also, you're assuming you're in your frontal lobe at that moment.
Nicole
Just saying.
Dax Shepard
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I agree, that would be great. And hopefully it would mask some of the smell.
Monica Padman
Exactly.
Dax Shepard
I would have even picked up the thing of pad thai and just poured it on my lap. Milk. I'm so clumsy. All right, I guess this day's over.
Monica Padman
See ya. See your way out.
Nicole
I should have probably thought of that, but I was clenching and running for the bathroom. And this bathroom, I don't know who decided to paint it this way, but it was checkered black and white and red. It floor to ceiling. Oh, it is everywhere. It's like a circus nightmare. So I am in there. I don't know which end to put in first because now full body sweats have fully hit me. I am soaking wet and I need to vomit.
Monica Padman
Oh no. Oh yeah. Because now we remember. It's.
Dax Shepard
You've got the flu. Yeah, yeah.
Nicole
I've got something bad. I don't know what to do. So I sit down and I just unleash. And then I start vomiting all over myself, all over the floor.
Dax Shepard
Oh, Nicole. This is so.
Nicole
I feel like I've kind of let it all out the bowel end. So I just turn it around, I stick the head in the toilet. The little bit of beer I had, it's gone. And I spray the wall with feces.
Dax Shepard
Oh, this is a two end because you're now on your knees throwing.
Nicole
Yeah, and the projectile that's coming out of me has forced it. And it's such a small bathroom. It's really gone everywhere. And there's no shower in here.
Monica Padman
What?
Nicole
It's like I glitter bombed the entire bathroom. The checker print has just given me the spins. I curl up on the floor. This is it. I don't know how much time has passed and I haven't heard the door open and close to the unit. So I am assuming that. Let's call him Sam. Sam is still in my bedroom. There's no way he doesn't know. I hear footsteps. He knocks on the door and he's like, hey, I feel like you're not doing okay in there, Nicole.
Dax Shepard
It's the dialogue in these situations I think is probably the best.
Nicole
I'm like, yeah, Sam, I've had better days.
Monica Padman
Everyone's trying to be so polite.
Dax Shepard
Are you crying?
Nicole
Oh, I'm crying. I am completely covered. My clothes are destroyed. I am destroyed. And he's like, I'm gonna go. I'm a good idea. So I hear him leave and I'm like, thank goodness. I can just kind of die on the floor. I can't even leave this bathroom because I am so covered. If I start walking to my bedroom, I'm just gonna make a trail. The upstairs is my roommate slash co worker, and she's got dogs and a kid and all this stuff. And she had just left the house. And I was texting her, can you come back and bring me some clothes? And then I hear the door open and close again. And I'm like, oh, thank God. She's holding home. Like, hey, is that you? She's like, no, I'm like half hour away. Knock on the door, there's Sam. And he said, hey, I've left a bag of stuff outside the door. I'm gonna go. And then I really hope you feel better. Inside the bag was a ten pack of granny panties.
Monica Padman
Oh, he went out to the store.
Dax Shepard
Oh, my care package.
Nicole
He got me two towels and some new sweatpants and a shirt.
Dax Shepard
Oh, what a sweetheart.
Monica Padman
Are you Married to him now.
Nicole
So here's the thing. I couldn't come back from that. Neither could he.
Dax Shepard
Okay, so we did the right thing. But also no one was gonna try.
Monica Padman
We just. Yeah, you'll have to let it go at that point. Oh, man.
Nicole
Monica, I know you want the happy ending and the meet cute. When I met my now husband, it was early on in dating I trusted a fart. I the couch.
Dax Shepard
Wow.
Monica Padman
Yeah. Wow.
Dax Shepard
Even I like Nicole, you're wild. I like it.
Mickey
Oh my God.
Monica Padman
Wow. Oh, this is really like shame on me, shame on you situation.
Dax Shepard
Well, you know, some people have that condition. It's like they don't trust anyone loves them. So they come up with a crazy test and they're like, well, they love me through this. I think maybe that's simmering your subconscious.
Monica Padman
Or maybe you just wanted to see is this guy as good as that one guy?
Dax Shepard
Interesting test.
Monica Padman
Will anyone ever live up to Sam.
Nicole
My husband, the gem that he is. He said, you know what? Don't even look back. Go straight to the bathroom. I got this. He disinfected clean the coach.
Dax Shepard
I gotta say, Kristen and I had this moment. We were only dating for like I think a couple months and we went to do this movie together and we're living in apartment together and both of us got this insane virus. One bathroom. And yeah, she was in there both ends. And I came in and gave her a bucket and the whole night and we just were in it all of a sudden. That's a threshold you cross.
Nicole
It is. I had a baby at the time too, so we were in deep.
Monica Padman
Oh man, I hope Sam found a nice woman.
Dax Shepard
He did. He's a good guy.
Monica Padman
Can take care of good guys.
Dax Shepard
Find love.
Monica Padman
Nice women.
Dax Shepard
Yeah.
Monica Padman
Wow, that's harrowing.
Dax Shepard
You are a survivor timer.
Nicole
I had so many unauthorized evacuation stories, it's hard to pick.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. Do you think you have ibs?
Nicole
No, I think I just get illnesses or stress. Tummy. Like before this, I was worried I was going to have one on the call with you.
Monica Padman
Honestly, we're hoping for that to happen.
Dax Shepard
At some point, a real time.
Nicole
I know. My sister texts me, she's like, hey, like make sure you go and do all the things you need to do. But right before the call, it doesn't.
Dax Shepard
Sound like any of these situations. You had any inkling that was coming?
Nicole
Yeah, no, that went. Hit like a freight train. I had no idea it was so fast.
Dax Shepard
And it's interesting you didn't feel it coming out of your butt. That part is interesting to me.
Nicole
I've never had that happen since. Thank goodness. That was like a complete shocker to me.
Monica Padman
I'm sorry that happened.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. That's great. Thank you.
Nicole
Oh, it brought me to you guys.
Dax Shepard
Well, we wish you well. And we wish you some prolonged abstinence from unauthorized evacuations.
Nicole
Yeah, so does my husband.
Dax Shepard
Yeah. Okay. Take care.
Monica Padman
Bye.
Dax Shepard
I love you. That's awesome. We have a lot to be grateful for. It's always a gratitude inducing and a cautionary tale. But some of these aren't cautionary.
Monica Padman
Well, they are cautionary. It's like your butt can leak.
Dax Shepard
I know. But when there's no warning.
Monica Padman
Ever go on dates?
Dax Shepard
Never leave your toilet. I guess that's the cautionary tale. All right. All right.
Monica Padman
Love you.
Dax Shepard
Love you.
Doug
Do you want to sing a tune or something? One of a theme song.
Dax Shepard
Oh, okay, great. We don't have a theming song for this new show, so here I go, go, go. We're going to ask some random questions and with the help of arm cherries, we'll get some suggestions on the fire rind. Dish on the fire. Follow Armchair Expert on the Wondry app, Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. You can listen to every episode of Armchair Expert early and ad free right now by joining Wondry plus in the Wondry app or on Apple podcasts. Before you go, tell us about yourself by completing a short survey@wondry.com survey.
Episode: Armchair Anonymous: Unauthorized Evacuation II
Date: September 12, 2025
This installment of Armchair Anonymous explores “unauthorized evacuations,” a playfully euphemistic and comedic framing for stories of public incontinence and messy gastrointestinal accidents. Hosts Dax Shepard and Monica Padman, joined by recurring contributors, create a judgment-free space where listeners call in to share their most mortifying tales of unexpected bodily betrayal. As always, Dax and Monica use humor and empathy to highlight the universal messiness of being human, with each caller’s story offering both catharsis and comic relief.
The stories this round are particularly vivid and memorable, featuring accidental public defecation in the military, on a school bus, during a bartending shift, and even in the middle of a romantic date. Far from mere toilet humor, the anecdotes touch on vulnerability, resilience, and the ultimate power of embracing humiliation.
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| Timestamp | Segment / Quote | |--------------|----------------------------------------------| | 03:27 | Doug’s Marine run story begins | | 07:15 | “Jackson Pollock painting in brown” | | 11:38 | “It ended up being poison oak.” | | 14:32 | Mickey’s bus ride story begins | | 18:33 | “It just came over me, like, literally exploded.” | | 23:14 | “I knew I was gonna have to make peace with my mess.” | | 27:53 | “If I can survive that, I can survive anything.” | | 31:03 | Tony’s elevator story begins | | 36:49 | “The fifth floor is like turning on a garden hose…” | | 39:07 | Jason’s sign in the elevator | | 42:24 | Nicole’s date night story begins | | 45:59 | “I try to do, like, a sniff test…” | | 48:03 | “I just unleash. And then I start vomiting…” | | 50:44 | Monica: “Are you married to him now?” | | 53:09 | Nicole: “I've never had that happen since.” |
This episode stands out for its honesty and humor in the face of taboo. The blend of compassion and merriment from hosts Dax and Monica allows listeners to find laughter—and maybe some healing—in life’s most undignified moments.
“Armchair Anonymous: Unauthorized Evacuation II” is a reminder that, for all of us, the most embarrassing things we imagine are often the most universal, and survivable—sometimes even the stuff that connects us most.