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Aaron
Hello and welcome to mom's car. Today is an incredibly special episode again for anyone that listened to armchair expert over the last seven and a half years. You've probably heard me talk a bazillion times about my ex girlfriend, Bri morrison, who I still just adore to no end. She's such an incredible person, an incredible mom. She's just gone through an incredible journey, and I'm just delighted that we finally got to sit down and talk and introduce her to everybody in the armchair world. So please enjoy my ex girlfriend, Bri morrison.
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Aaron
Don't you find that kind of charming that Kristin could drive any car and this is her car, an entry level chevy bolt.
Bri Morrison
I mean, yes. I feel the same way about myself. I'm like, this is the one I want. And also, I don't want to wash it.
Aaron
Yeah, it's not for you.
Bri Morrison
It gets dirty again.
Aaron
You got the right color for that, which is white.
Bri Morrison
I got the absolute last one.
Aaron
It was like Covid mad dash for them.
Bri Morrison
It was 20, 21.
Aaron
Okay. Yeah. It was a terrible time to buy.
Bri Morrison
A vehicle, and I just had to get a vehicle. Mine was due at the lease shop or whatever.
Aaron
So I was like, I've got to.
Bri Morrison
Go get it now.
Aaron
What did you come out of into that van? What had you been driving?
Bri Morrison
Volkswagen.
Aaron
You don't even know.
Bri Morrison
Ferrari.
Aaron
You don't care. Volkswagen. Ferrari.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. A volkswagen. No, it was like an suv.
Aaron
Yeah, I think I do know the name of that.
Bri Morrison
Again, it was like I was trying to eat, Like, I believe Aaron was originally the one.
Aaron
Tyrell, remember that?
Bri Morrison
You can't have lobster. You can't eat outside my class.
Aaron
Yeah, the people in the middle ages would die if they had, like, steak. I don't know where he would have learned that, But I actually use that a lot.
Bri Morrison
In fact, the more money we have, the lower I go in general.
Aaron
Have you not?
Bri Morrison
I'm like, I don't need to keep up with that. That's not me.
Aaron
Right, but have you been infected with anything? Cause, like, I can admit the things that I've been Infected with. No, not jewel.
Bri Morrison
Jewelries are mine. I like a nice.
Aaron
You still like a nice jewelry.
Bri Morrison
And I also still like vintage clothing, but I like real nice vintage.
Aaron
Yeah, you go, but get it from the realreal. Where do you get your vintage?
Bri Morrison
I get it from this place. AMT Vintage in Pasadena. I'll get like, you know, the used Gucci bag.
Aaron
Oh, sure. So they have high end.
Bri Morrison
They have high end, but it's used and it's already a little bit trashed. Like I got these Chanel flats so.
Dax
It looks like you've owned it for a while.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. Or I just don't mind because I will trash it. Yeah, Like I can't not trash things.
Aaron
Just fast forward.
Bri Morrison
I'm just a trash person.
Aaron
You're a trash monster. You've always been a trash monster.
Bri Morrison
Always. So it will get dirty and gross, so I might as well. But I still like the fancy.
Aaron
But you and I, well, all three of us come from a modest background. You and I were broke for a decade together. And I do certain things now where I go like, wow, I can't believe I'm this person. I don't have much shame or guilt about it. I've worked through most of it, but hotels. I'm such a fucking snob. Like, when you go to an incredible hotel on vacation, for me it makes it so much better because then I don't care what we do. I'm just delighted to be at the hotel. We were at a terrible hotel last year in Norway and I was like, I can't believe how uncomfortable I am. This is really humiliating how much this is ruining. Yeah, it was like mismatched pillowcases, some silk, which I hate. I don't want public silk. Communal silk. Silk's for like you and yourself, maybe your wife.
Bri Morrison
I like a nice hotel, but I also.
Aaron
That hasn't gotten yet.
Bri Morrison
No. Like, we're driving up to Washington. We just need to stay at like a dog friendly motel somewhere. Like, I'll be okay with that. Although we are staying in a hotel that I really love. You're in the McMinimans branch. Okay.
Aaron
There's like, I need to get hip to it.
Bri Morrison
Well, McMinimans is a series of hotels. You can get points if you stay at them a lot. But they convert old cool places. So they've converted this old nunnery, this like Franciscan nunnery into a hotel in Seattle in Bend, Oregon. So it's like on the way because we're driving up.
Aaron
Do you remember the time we slept in stock on the way to go to your house, your parents house. And there was, like, a drug dealer next door. And it was getting progressively crazier throughout the night. And then there was, like, people being thrown against the wall. And we were like, oh, is there going to be shots fired through the wall?
Bri Morrison
But I feel like that was a lot of stops on the way. On the motorcycle trip as well. Yeah.
Aaron
Yes.
Bri Morrison
When you would just be like, after, like, 10 hours. I mean, I was sleeping on the back, obviously.
Aaron
Yeah. You were just like, Aaron. On our road trips, Bree slept at least half of the ride from Detroit to Kelly.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Dax
On the back of the motorcycle, fall asleep.
Bri Morrison
There wasn't even a strap.
Aaron
What were your plans versus. Cause you intended to do a ton of reading on the back of the motorcycle.
Bri Morrison
I did do a bunch of reading. Yeah.
Dax
Like, with an actual book.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. You could just open it right up. Just really do a lot of reading.
Aaron
Where's the pages?
Bri Morrison
The thing is, he didn't. No, because you just hold it tight.
Aaron
Hold it tight. Don't hold on to the motorcycle at all.
Bri Morrison
I just love too, like, there's no pictures from that era, you know? No one. I'm like, did I. Did it happen?
Aaron
Yeah, you're so right. We took no pictures. We took one picture that was really high priority to me, which is you were driving the cop car. Oh, yeah. And you were next to me on my Harley. And I had the cruise control on, and I was sitting on the back seat.
Dax
There we go.
Aaron
Like, looking. Cause you could put it on your credit card. If you got a Harley credit card.
Dax
You should have been reading back then.
Aaron
I should have had one of your books.
Bri Morrison
One of the greatest things I ever did was that stretch of highway where there's no exit, so there's no cops.
Aaron
Right.
Bri Morrison
And I went, like, 135 miles an hour. And that was, to this day, like.
Aaron
That'S very fast for you.
Bri Morrison
How fast can you go? How fast does a car go?
Aaron
Oh, well, it depends which one you're on. But that's that cop car.
Bri Morrison
How fast did that go?
Aaron
Oh, probably 130.
Sponsor Voice
Yeah.
Aaron
1:35.
Bri Morrison
I mean, it had to go 135.
Aaron
It must have gone.
Bri Morrison
It went at least well, I guess I went over, like, it went as fast as the thing showed. And it was so thrilling. And I only did it for about 15 seconds. Cause it was so scary.
Aaron
Wobby wob. That ranks for me. The Harley trip in the summer, it was 10 days. We rode from bar to bar to bar.
Bri Morrison
Remember we went to Wisconsin and we bought everyone in the bar A drink. Because they were, like, 25 cents.
Aaron
Yes, it was 25.
Bri Morrison
And it was flooded, so people had taken their rowboats to the bar. From, like, to the bar?
Aaron
How did you know?
Bri Morrison
No, I mean, the highway wasn't flooded. This is, like, down local. The valley was flooded.
Aaron
Have you been to those bars in Wisconsin where you're in someone's house? Like, there's just bars in people's houses.
Dax
Love them.
Aaron
Yes.
Dax
And I went on quite a few trips. I'm sad we never got to do one together.
Aaron
Yeah. And probably a blessing.
Dax
We'll try. Probably.
Sponsor Voice
Yeah.
Dax
But, yeah, I love those bars.
Aaron
Everyone has a Pabst Blue ribbon sign in front of their porch. Totally.
Bri Morrison
So you can just go in.
Aaron
Anyone can have a liquor like this.
Dax
Yeah, that's a very Wisconsin Y thing, for sure.
Aaron
Where's that trip rank for you?
Bri Morrison
I actually talk about that one a lot. Well, also. Cause it was just so visceral.
Aaron
Yes.
Bri Morrison
You'd be so dirty. Your arms would just be so dirty.
Aaron
Because we had to put so much sunblock on.
Bri Morrison
When you had that drink at the end, you were so good. Cause you were just like a. Cause we put on a lot of hours in a day on motorcycle.
Dax
You deserve those drinks.
Bri Morrison
Yeah, you did.
Sponsor Voice
Yeah.
Bri Morrison
It's only, like, Eurostick Inn. Right. There was a real.
Aaron
An old haunch of yours. What was the Fred Eric's restaurant you worked at?
Bri Morrison
Vida.
Aaron
Vida Avita.
Bri Morrison
Just Vita. The one thing I'm really sad about from the fires is he had a wine key made for me that was engraved with DJ Brie, because I would make all the mixes for the restaurant, and somehow it got thrown away with the cleanup, you know, because they threw away a lot of, like, silverware and stuff, and I can't find it. My house didn't burn down, so I'm pretty lucky.
Aaron
It didn't burn down.
Bri Morrison
But it lost a wine.
Aaron
But it's poisoned with lead.
Bri Morrison
No, you can wash it. Okay. And I don't use it that much anymore because I don't drink. So I'm like, no, no, no.
Dax
The house.
Aaron
Oh, the house.
Bri Morrison
I'm still thinking about the wine cake. No, the house is filled with toxic lead. Like, it's supposed to be 5, and ours is 200, and this is after it was cleaned.
Aaron
Wait, it's supposed to be 5 and it's 200.
Bri Morrison
5 is like the UG level for floors, interior. And I just wiped it up after the cleaning, and it was 200 now.
Aaron
But have you considered you never tested it before the fires?
Bri Morrison
Not before the fires, by the way, the other rooms are not that high. The windows in the kitchen and the living room blew open with the fire. So the smoke came into the living room and all the other doors I closed because I was actually very good, like post apocalyptic person. I had every battery out. Isaac was testing the batteries. We filled every headlamp because, you know, the power was out. I had the extra water containers and the backpacks.
Aaron
Yeah, on it.
Bri Morrison
Really good.
Aaron
Where did you guys safe harbor at?
Bri Morrison
We went to the Omni downtown. We just kept looking for hotels until we found one.
Aaron
We had a bunch of people at our house.
Bri Morrison
Oh yeah, you offered. Thank you. That was nice.
Aaron
Oh right, yeah. I forgot I did that. It was fun.
Bri Morrison
Oh, I bet.
Aaron
I always feel guilty about this. Covid was fun. 911 was so fun. Oh my God.
Bri Morrison
We woke up and we were smoking cigarettes in bed. Watching it on that freaking bedroom.
Aaron
Smoking cigarettes.
Bri Morrison
We did. We like literally lit. Lit up cigarettes. We were like, fuck it. We could smoke inside. It's 9 11.
Aaron
Like this had just happened.
Bri Morrison
We didn't smoke in bed every day.
Aaron
We didn't. I think we did. I remember I wouldn't really open my eyes until the cigarette was in my lips and I was about to light it. The second I woke up, I was reaching for the soft pack and then I would light it and then I'd be like. And then I'd open my eyes. Do you think back on how absolutely terrible our apartment must have been for non smokers? We were hosting like super bowl parties.
Bri Morrison
Didn't they all smoke too?
Aaron
No, Scotty had asthma and didn't smoke. Nate smoked only when he drank.
Dax
Yeah, the whole world smelled like smoke back then though. Maybe less in California, but a little.
Aaron
It was a tiny apartment. Even I sometimes would be like, oh, it's very smoky.
Dax
It's too smoky.
Bri Morrison
Yes, Smokey for me. I actually think it's so funny. I think about that apartment lot right now because it was my like first remodel. Cause now I'm deep in remodeling again. I actually really love it. I made that apartment so freaking cute with that giant bookshelf. That is the strongest thing that's ever been made.
Aaron
The one I made for your birthday.
Bri Morrison
That was the hugest, biggest. I think you put like two four by fours, like next to each other. Like it was thick.
Aaron
Yeah, it's a little overbuilt. Where am I going? Turn around, turn around.
Dax
Okay, Brie. We had Tim Lovestead in here the other day.
Bri Morrison
Oh, nice. Yeah.
Dax
What a blast from the Past. And Dax asked him, where did you and Tim's like, I think we met at your house in Santa Monica at the apartment. Deck said, well, that must have been a real fucking smoky apartment if Aaron was there with me and Bree.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. I don't remember it being. But then again, like my fondest memory is still holding the little ashtray in the center with my grandparents smoking. It was like a Scottish checked pattern. And I would just like let the sandbag and they would just let the ash fall over my face. Yeah. So cigarette smoke in interiors is actually like a Proustie and Madeleine for me.
Aaron
Yeah.
Bri Morrison
So I like it. I do love that you. I like that you can drink and drive with non alcoholic beers.
Aaron
Well, that's what we assume. I don't know if you can or not.
Dax
I certainly have good assumption.
Aaron
Yeah, I mean, you're not allowed to drink and drive.
Dax
I go in and get it.
Bri Morrison
Okay.
Aaron
Oh, you were saying, Tim, though. Oh, yes. Yeah.
Bri Morrison
The smoky apartment. So I should probably get back into nicotine is what you're saying.
Aaron
I like it. I mean, not that it's good for you. It's a good product. And now you have like all these different deliveries. I have the lozenge, of course, but then also this is just straight spray. It's just straight nicotine. There's no other bullshit in it.
Bri Morrison
I just feel like I've gotten over it.
Aaron
You've gotten over it? When's the last time you had nicotine?
Bri Morrison
Oh, geez. Oh, I'll tell you. Yeah, tell me. The night before I started chemo.
Aaron
Okay, good for you.
Bri Morrison
Went up on my roof and I smoked a cigarette and I like cried and said all the prayers. Like I want to make it while smoking a cigarette. I'm not able to do this anymore. Yes. Probably not a good idea. I didn't smoke for a long time. Like until Isaac was like four. Near drowning, I remember. And that was very stressful as one.
Aaron
That's the most haunting story I think I've heard about a kid.
Bri Morrison
I just picked up a pack of cigarettes. And then my kids even know this. Like I just buy a pack of cigarettes, go behind a Target parking lot, smoke, leave it there.
Dax
The whole pack.
Bri Morrison
The whole pack, leave it there. Thinking that somebody else would want to smoke behind a Target parking lot. It's an amazing place. And. And I would come back like a week later and sometimes the pack would still be there.
Aaron
Oh my God. Really? I would smoke another one in la.
Bri Morrison
Insane. Yeah. Eagle Rock one.
Aaron
So basically you're just keeping your cigarettes behind Target?
Bri Morrison
Yeah, basically. Yeah.
Aaron
And they'd be in the car.
Bri Morrison
No, never smoked in the car.
Aaron
No, no, no. I mean, would they be waiting in the car as you were buying in a dart behind Target?
Bri Morrison
No.
Aaron
Oh, okay.
Bri Morrison
No, no, no, no. This would be like, I'm gonna run to Target, and then I would go to Target and get the. There's two targets that I do this at. There's one that's actually behind the old Macy's in Eagle Rock. It's like floor recycling on the side. And every time I drive down the two and I look over, never see anyone there, and I'm like, it's a missed opportunity.
Aaron
Did you ever find.
Dax
Yeah, it's one place that you shopped at and one you smoked at?
Bri Morrison
No, I shopped and smoked at the same. But I also would smoke behind the La Canada one.
Aaron
Will you tell Aaron that terrible story? Oh, no, you don't want to tell it.
Bri Morrison
I mean, I can tell the story. Like when Isaac drowned.
Aaron
Yes. It's just one of the most brutal stories I've ever heard. I've told so many people that story. I guess I should have asked you if you're comfortable with it.
Bri Morrison
Yeah, I'm comfortable with it.
Aaron
Well, let's just acknowledge this. You're so part of us having kids, which is. You probably wouldn't even remember doing this. I remember I was in Northern Michigan and you called me randomly and you said, do not miss this. You had had a kid.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Aaron
And you're like, you know me, I'm selfish. And trust me, none of the work feels like it's work and you just can't miss it. It's the greatest. And of course, I already wanted to have kids, but I did get off the phone with you, and I'm like, let's go. Yeah, let's go. And I remember saying to Kristin, like, yeah, I just talked to Bri, just talked to my ex girlfriend and said.
Bri Morrison
It'S time for us to do it.
Aaron
Bri's advised us to procreate.
Bri Morrison
I think I might have also called you after the drowning and said, make sure your kid goes to swim to Bill or one of those swimming classes. Well, the thing is, he had already done one of those swimming classes. It was like 11:00am because of course, you know, like, your first thing is like, I wasn't drinking. I said to my friend, I was like, okay, you got eyes on Isaac? I had paid to have a place, pool fence put up in the rental in Atlanta.
Sponsor Voice
Yeah.
Aaron
Your husband was producing a movie in Atlanta.
Bri Morrison
And then it Was the very first day we had used the pool. We were in and out of the pool so much, I just took down one of the panels. And I'm sitting there, I'm holding her infant baby. And all of a sudden, I just didn't hear Isaac chitter. Chatter. He's like a. He liked to, like, talk guys. You know, this little toys. And I just didn't hear him. And I stood up, and the one literal. One section of the pool I could not see. He was laying face down in it. And I ran across the water, pulled up lifeless. Just no breathing, no anything. Threw him over the side. Got up on my stomach here and started doing compressions. And because I was a teacher or had been a teacher, too, I knew. Anyway, I got so confused. I started doing the mouth thing, too. And you're only supposed to do chest compressions, just psa. I started breathing, and then he started going like. And I was like, oh, my God. Oh, my God, oh, my God. But he wasn't breathing enough.
Aaron
How long were you doing chest compressions and stuff before he made a noise?
Bri Morrison
A minute. I mean, I don't.
Aaron
I mean, I can't even imagine Wrench.
Bri Morrison
Crying, like, screaming the address out.
Aaron
Call 911.
Bri Morrison
Whatever the address was. I knew it. I'm like, screaming it. The ambulance was there within five minutes. I mean, it was absolutely insane. But what ended up happening, the worst thing is that I ended up aspirating vomit back into his lungs because of doing the cleaning.
Aaron
And by the way, you're the daughter of a firefighter. If you can't get it right, what are the odds or anybody going to.
Bri Morrison
Get it right anyway, you know, he was 100% fine. He's Mensa.
Aaron
Yeah, he's golden. But you had, like, a big wave of depression after this.
Bri Morrison
Oh, huge. Joya put me on, like, a benzo almost immediately. And I was like, no, no, no. I don't actually like pills at all. Or even, like, I don't even take an Advil. I was like, no, no, no, I don't want to do it. She's like, oh, no, no. You're at risk for advanced onset aging. Like, you know, like, the people. And I was like, give it to me. Give it to me. You know, like, when the person's like, his hair, it turned me black into bright white.
Aaron
Like Obama.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Aaron
Like stress.
Bri Morrison
Like, extreme stress. So that was why I took it. And I remember I took it for, like, three days, and it just basically tamps down. You don't have the feelings.
Aaron
Yes. It makes it Manageable.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. I don't even know.
Aaron
Anyway, how long were you fucked up over that?
Bri Morrison
I mean. No, it's fine. You know, I just think the guilt. You just tried to be such a good mom. I don't remember. I mean, probably not too long. I tend not to.
Aaron
Yeah, you keep it moving. There you go. I hated that story so much. I'm so glad I heard it. Cause I was like, oh, right. It can happen when you're doing everything.
Bri Morrison
I think I saved many children.
Aaron
Yeah.
Bri Morrison
And so none of these have come out yet.
Sponsor Voice
No.
Bri Morrison
Okay.
Dax
No.
Bri Morrison
And they get edited so we can say whatever we want.
Dax
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Bri Morrison
It won't necessarily be on. Yeah.
Dax
You smell good. I've always wanted you.
Bri Morrison
I was telling Erin that I keep trying to get this side so I don't give the camera my.
Aaron
What do you got?
Dax
She's missing a tube. Oh, you're missing a tooth.
Aaron
From what? Is that cancer? From you?
Bri Morrison
A little bit. I got an infection. I mean, I had, like, so many infections, it was insane.
Aaron
Because your immune system's completely destroyed.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. When you're doing chemo.
Aaron
Could we start at the beginning?
Bri Morrison
Oh, geez.
Aaron
Are you comfortable? Start, Anthony.
Dax
I heard secondhand. I'm very curious.
Aaron
I have to say that the two saddest moments I've had for other people are both of you. Like, I've lost parents and step parents. And when Aaron got sick. Aaron got really sick a few years ago. I probably didn't tell you. Well, five and a half years ago. Six years ago.
Dax
Six years ago now.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. Okay.
Aaron
What did you have?
Dax
This is what led to me getting sober. Sober? Yeah.
Bri Morrison
Cancer led to me getting sober. It's funny when the thing becomes a gift, like the hard thing. But I also read. I don't remember. I keep trying to figure out which author it was, but I was in college, and they were saying that, like, you're only able to experience the amount of joy in direct opposition to the amount of suffering that you've experienced. Oh. So. Not that that should be a reason for going down D road, but.
Dax
No wonder I'm so fucking happy.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. No, I know. Sometimes I'm like, holy shit. I've never known joy like this before. There's something about coming through that meat grinder of anything scary like that.
Aaron
When you told me you had been diagnosed with cancer, I was pretty devastated.
Dax
Yeah, I heard from the ex.
Aaron
How did you discover it?
Bri Morrison
Well, what I really like is just how on trend I am. Cause I feel like everybody has.
Aaron
You're nobody if you haven't gone.
Sponsor Voice
No.
Bri Morrison
I know pretty much all the coolest things.
Aaron
That bitch doesn't know what to talk about. She hasn't even been through cancer yet.
Bri Morrison
What's crazy is that I actually got not just mammograms, I got these extra breast ultrasounds because I had really big boobs and they were very dense. And so I was.
Aaron
Does that up your odds?
Bri Morrison
It ups your odds for not being able to detect it. So nothing detected it. I was going to sort of a hippy, dippy, naturopath type doctor anyway, just, you know, optimize aging and doing different sorts of things. And she kind of randomly called in an mri. She was like, you know, there's something. One of my sonosine is what they're called. They're this really elaborate ultrasound that goes in. She's like, one of them was missing. The clinic had changed ownership. One of my images was missing. She's like, well, something's different from this one and this one on the right side. So she's like, well, let's get an mri. Let's just do it somehow. She called it and insurance paid for it. I got it done. There was nothing on this side. This side lit up like a Christmas tree. I had like 240 gram tumors. It was 11 centimeters. It was huge. But it's lobular cancer, so it grows like a slime mold with these tiny. You couldn't even feel it. Even when I had the full tumor in there, you could not feel a lump.
Aaron
It wasn't hard and dense. It was like fluid.
Bri Morrison
No, it's like. It's not fluid, but it just felt like breath. No, I mean, it didn't feel like anything.
Sponsor Voice
Yeah, yeah.
Bri Morrison
Thought it was like 3 centimeters. But once she got in there, she's like, oh, my God.
Aaron
They can visually see it once they're in there.
Bri Morrison
Once she's in there, she could visually see.
Aaron
So when you've got that first mri, what's the response from everyone? From the second they read it, doctors are so clinical.
Bri Morrison
They were just like, you have breast cancer? No, the mri. Then they did a biopsy. So they don't know anything from the mri. They're like, this doesn't look right. And then they do a biopsy. So they pull the tissue out and then they test it, and then they know exactly what it is. So it's lobular stage 2B, but they didn't know how big or how much was in there. So once they go in for surgery, she was able to get all the margins. They took a bunch of lymph nodes hadn't spread to my lymph nodes.
Aaron
Okay, that's great. But as you told me, it had left the breast. Right. And then made its way almost into your armpit?
Bri Morrison
No. Well, it was really almost all the way to there. To the ribs, actually. My surgeon did a great job.
Aaron
Sorry. No.
Bri Morrison
Okay.
Aaron
So once they got in there, though.
Bri Morrison
Once they got in there, they took it out. And then there's the cancer surgeon, and then there's the reconstructive surgeon. So he kind of tried to make the right one sort of move match the left one, but they had to take so much out of the left one that he didn't take as much out of the right. So it was a little lopsided for a minute. You know, I didn't think I was gonna have to do chemo. But then they run your numbers, and they're like, you're this age, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So then I ended up having to do chemo. I did 30 rounds of radiation. Last 30 rounds? Yeah. I mean, it was black. The skin was, like, falling off. So it's like getting a sunburn and then being like, all right, let's go to the beach, you know, the next day, just get another sunburn.
Aaron
Right after the surgery.
Bri Morrison
Six weeks after the surgery, I started chemo. Six weeks after chemo, I started radiation. And then six weeks after radiation, they put me on all the meds, which I'm now on. And then I also had reconstruction. And they basically take fat, which is great. They take fat from, like, my waist, and then they like, oh, wow.
Aaron
So they can puff it up.
Bri Morrison
Oh, wow.
Aaron
You didn't have to have a saline implant.
Bri Morrison
No. Which is great. But what was great is I had a lot to offer to take away.
Aaron
Yeah. Do you think that God smited you cause you valued your boobs too much?
Bri Morrison
Well, that's. This is one of those things where I actually.
Aaron
If I got a cancer, it would definitely be dick.
Bri Morrison
I definitely feel smoked. Yes. Pride goes before the fall. Vanity is a sin. I definitely was. I was so devastated about losing any of the tissue.
Aaron
You're God's gift.
Bri Morrison
And now I'm, like, super stoked. Cause I get, like, all these new clothes, and they look different, and I look thinner, and I like it, so I'm into it. But again, you don't know what the gifts are gonna be until you go through.
Aaron
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Bri Morrison
I loved that part because I am super, super social. I want to always be chit chatting with people. So anyone who wanted to, like, come around and hang out with me, but you kind of had three different camps. You had the people who were just like, I want to spend as much time with you before you die, or, you know, just, I want to make sure I spend quality time with you. Those I was like, super happy. And that was really fun. There were the people who were just like, your cancer is too hard for me. And they just kind of leave, like, they're just gone.
Aaron
Without naming anyone. Were there a couple that shocked you? Like, wow, I thought we were closer than this.
Bri Morrison
Yes. Yeah. Yes, there was.
Aaron
And has there been residual damage from that or you got over it?
Bri Morrison
I kind of get over it because again, I'm an unlimited well of put in more conversations, put in more people. I just always want to be social or it was just like, where I would still hang out with them, but I had to do a lot of like, it's okay.
Dax
Yeah, comforting them.
Bri Morrison
Yeah, comforting them. Most people were just fine. I also love to get a pluses. I've always got a pluses. I'm like a 4.0 student and I got a fucking AP level. A plus in cancer. Yeah. Okay.
Aaron
I'm not shocked.
Bri Morrison
No, I did so good.
Aaron
I try to always explain. When I try to explain our time together to people, I go, well, this was the pattern. Whatever I did, Brie came and did much better immediately. Like, I worked at shows and shoes. People like me. You went there and my mom was like, I wanna give her the company.
Bri Morrison
I was very good at shows and shoes. But I've also come to realize that about myself is that you aren't going to find someone who works more, you know. Like, I am always moving, always cleaning, but I don't really like the pressure of big job. Like, I don't know.
Aaron
Right.
Dax
Let's keep that in mind for somewhere down the road in this conversation. You cleaning a certain boat? Maybe after sniffing a lot of drugs. Do you remember this story?
Aaron
I don't know if I remember.
Bri Morrison
Tell it again. I mean, it's. I don't know. Cleaning a boat is something.
Aaron
Something I've done so long.
Dax
Oh, my God.
Bri Morrison
Okay.
Dax
This is from my memory.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. These are all, by the way, from my iron claws.
Dax
From this is fact.
Aaron
Let me give you some facts about your life.
Dax
So Dean's house. Dean Nichols. Dean and Michelle, their first house, which they were the first to get a house out of anybody. They're the first kind of grownups. We're at Dean's now. Dax and I just talked about. About this.
Aaron
Me bringing meth back to Detroit.
Dax
Back to Detroit. What a treat. So cheap.
Aaron
Doesn't fill you up. Low calorie.
Dax
A little bit will go a long way. Or you can just do all of it and, you know, deal with it for a few three or four days. Yeah. So I remember my first time. I think it was four days. Like, the fourth day was insane.
Aaron
Yeah, yeah.
Dax
Where you are actually maybe losing your mind. You might be too far gone, like that kind of thing. And I think it was this time because a lot of days went after this. Like, I remember days by myself and I was still rolling.
Aaron
That was the worst experience of my life.
Bri Morrison
Right.
Dax
So I think day one, though, we're all partaking and partying.
Bri Morrison
Was I partaking? Yeah, yeah.
Aaron
If you recall, you had. I'm gonna guess, five times you did it.
Bri Morrison
Yeah, I was saying. Cause I was not. Cause I need it.
Dax
Listen, my memory ironclad. I remember the girls, like you doing a little. But then we were hoarding.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Dax
And you and I especially you were probably hoarding even more than from me. And then we hoarded from Dean and everyone else the layers of loyalty.
Bri Morrison
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Dax
I remember you guys did a little, but a little was enough.
Bri Morrison
And was it meth?
Dax
Yeah, it was fucking meth.
Aaron
Well, listen, you'll remember because you were working. We won't say your name, but you were working at Fred Siegel, and the girls at Fred Siegel did meth.
Bri Morrison
Oh, yeah, right.
Aaron
I mean, for the most part, the very first time we ever met, Nate and I were doing meth for the first time.
Dax
Oh, my gosh.
Aaron
Yeah.
Bri Morrison
That's what we just met at Franklin Hills, actually. Yeah.
Aaron
At like, Brooks. Brooks house. Yeah. Yeah. So we had gotten it from one of your co workers.
Bri Morrison
Okay.
Aaron
Got it around Michael Torina area. I had brought it home on the plane so that they could try this great drug I have the slumbers, which.
Dax
Ended up being hell. I asked for more, and I remember you sent me some further down the.
Aaron
Line, but that was terrible. Can you get more of that?
Dax
Yeah, I mean, the first couple of days were great.
Aaron
Yeah, sure. When you're just horny and not crazy. Yeah.
Dax
Yeah, those were fun. And you can, you know, just drink an excessive amount. So the next morning, this is where you have to remember Butch. Dean's dad comes over. Cause he always does this shit. He comes over and it's like 10, 11 in the morning and we're all up as if. But we all try to pretend like we just woke up getting up and we're having a good weekend. And the fucking yard is fucked. We're still drinking. It gets a little uncomfortable. Too much maybe for something to handle. You and I think Michelle, the boat was in the driveway and you were cleaning that fucking boat for. I mean, this really jacked. It seemed like the entire morning, like after the sun came. I think it was before.
Aaron
Yeah.
Dax
When Butch showed up, you were already cleaning the boat.
Aaron
Oh, I'm sure.
Dax
So you were cleaning the boat. Dex was overly trying to compensate that like to prove to him we are sober.
Aaron
So sober.
Dax
So he look at who are be cleaning. Just talking to him so much and chewing his lips off and. And like to make it seem like it's normal.
Aaron
Sure. Yeah.
Dax
So the.
Aaron
You know that.
Dax
Of course we all know that horrifying feeling. Like later knowing what we did.
Aaron
Oh, yeah.
Dax
Like, oh, my God.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Dax
Like won't even let him go until we.
Aaron
So anyway proven it on account of just getting up.
Dax
Breakfast. We already had.
Aaron
We had it after we woke up. We were starving. We have our full appetites.
Dax
Gonna get that boat clean. That's what the girls are doing.
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Dax
I guarantee though, if you ask Dean Michelle. Cuz I remember the boat being cleaned was my favorite part. I think it went on most of the day. Oh, I'm sure like once you got started, you wouldn't stop.
Bri Morrison
I actually realized when I look back at I never was this crazy drunk fall down ever. Never.
Aaron
No.
Bri Morrison
But I will look back and be like, oh, I was trying to be so on top of everything in my life in order for nobody to like, you know, question having a little extra or whatever, which is this weird thing. And it probably just started even back then.
Aaron
Well, I always think too, you were in a tricky position to ever evaluate your drinking because you lived with someone who was going very hard all the time and doing drugs.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Aaron
And so relative to me, you had your ships fully together. You could have had a roommate that you might have been like, oh, I drink a lot. I mean, I drink much more than she does. Or like Scotty. Scotty was a heavy drinker, but he had to say to me, you can't drink at my house anymore. Like so relative to me.
Bri Morrison
Yes. I also stopped drinking as much. You know, I wasn't binge drinking when I was a working person and stuff. So I feel like, oh, well, that was then. That's when I was partying in my 20s and that was like an era. And now I'm a responsible drinker.
Aaron
Yes. I weirdly have become grateful that I didn't have a drinking habit that was in the gray zone. Mine was just so obviously untenable that I had to stop. And I just have a lot of friends who it's like they're not sure if it takes more than it gives.
Bri Morrison
Sure.
Aaron
It's, like, hard to figure that out.
Bri Morrison
I feel like I felt like that for a long time.
Aaron
Yeah. And I've always just kind of been more like. I almost would rather just be a drunk. And then you gotta quit, and then you don't even have to even ever evaluate it anymore.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. You know, this is over.
Aaron
How did your parents take it? Cause now, obviously, that you have kids. I just can't imagine that call.
Bri Morrison
They kind of went into go mode. My mom, she came down.
Aaron
You're your mother's daughter.
Bri Morrison
Yeah, exactly. She came down for the surgery. She had all my, like, meds ready to go and just was really taking care of the household, taking care of the kids, doing all of that. One of my favorite things is there was, like, a journal. My meds after the surgery. And then it was all breathe things. Breathe. Brie is. I wish I remembered what it said. Like, bri thinks Brie is okay. Brad thinks Brie's not okay. Or whatever was like, I thought I was, like, totally fine, but I was on, like, oxy and stuff, you know, Bree thinks Brie's okay, but Brad's not so sharp. Brad's not so sharp.
Dax
That's so funny.
Bri Morrison
My dad was good, too. They were perfect. Not alarmist. And then Joya, of course, went into full doctor mode and was just, this.
Aaron
Is a good time to have a best friend that's an ER doctor.
Bri Morrison
Really walked me through the emotional. That were really the hardest part of all of it was the fear. Just.
Aaron
She deserves a shout out, too. When my dad was diagnosed, I called her. I was like, here's what the diagnosis is. And she goes, yeah, there's nothing that can be done. He's gonna die in a few months, and so proceed accordingly. And I was like, oh, my God. I'm so glad someone just told me. We have no magic silver bullet for small cell carcinoma. Don't waste your time trying to fly to some other state.
Bri Morrison
Just get in there and spend as much time.
Aaron
Go hang out.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Aaron
Yeah.
Bri Morrison
Actually, one of my biggest regrets was not reaching out to your dad before. It was hard, but I felt like it wasn't my place, so I just didn't. I did reach out to Buttons.
Dax
You did?
Bri Morrison
Yeah, yeah. I reached out to your mom and Buttons before you. Buttons.
Dax
Dave Buttons.
Aaron
Oh, sweet. Dave Buttons. Yeah. Were you on the trip where he got name Dave Buttons?
Bri Morrison
Maybe.
Aaron
Oh, yeah, you told me.
Dax
But I feel like. I don't know.
Aaron
We went Twice to an all inclusive place. I went once with you and I went once with Carrie. And I can't remember what trip was on, but basically, no, we were checking in.
Bri Morrison
Was. Your mom wasn't with Buttons when you were with Carrie?
Aaron
Yeah, she was.
Dax
Buttons was around when I got there, or soon after.
Aaron
I think 10th grade, they started dating.
Bri Morrison
Oh, okay. Never mind.
Aaron
Okay, yeah, yeah, 10th grade for me. And Carly was in fourth grade or something. Cause yeah, he was very much her dad. But yes, we're checking. His name was Dave Barton. And we're checking into this all inclusive hotel and we've all just gotten off a plane, so there's a line of like 15 people that are checking in. And Barton, in his soft voice, they're like, reservation name. And he goes, oh, Beef Barton. And then a guy like four behind us goes, excuse me. No, excuse me, I'm Dave Buttons. I'm Dave Buttons. And Barton goes, no, I'm Dave Barton. And for some reason, neither of them can hear that it's two different names. The guy keeps going, this man's trying to check in in my name. I'm the real Dave Buttons.
Bri Morrison
I think it was Terry, because I remember hearing the story.
Aaron
And Barton was like, I'm the real Dave.
Bri Morrison
Bar.
Aaron
But the best part was we get into our room and of course, all of our luggage is there. His is not there, and there's an.
Dax
Errant suitcase in our room.
Aaron
And Barton's like, he just can't figure out where his bag is. It's so weird that. And I go, barton, clearly Dave Buttons have your bag and this is Dave.
Bri Morrison
Maybe it was. It's so hard sometimes, whether you know if you were there or you just heard the story so many times.
Aaron
Yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't know either. We've been wrestling with that a lot lately. But anyways, I pick up the phone, the room's registered, and I said, I swear to God, I call up and I go, hi, can I be connected to Dave Button's room? And they go, sir, you're in Dave Button's room. And I go, no, I'm in Dave Barton's room. And they go, oh, yes, sorry, you are in Dave Barton's room. So then they patch me through to Dave Button's room, and he picks up, he's like, hello. And I go, buttons, it's Barton. Do you have a bag in your room? Because we have an next to me. He's like, yes, I do. Okay, what's the room number? I'll come get it. Oh, you are in Dave Buttons.
Dax
You're calling from Dave Buttons?
Bri Morrison
No, now I'm really feeling like I was definitely there because I feel like that's basically the only thing we talked about for the rest of the trip.
Aaron
Yeah, yeah, yeah, Dave Buttons. Okay, good. So you called him?
Bri Morrison
No, I went up to Oregon and saw them.
Aaron
Great.
Bri Morrison
Just on a random trip that I went up there. But I went up there to see him.
Aaron
To see him, yeah.
Bri Morrison
Was it 2016?
Aaron
You know, I'm so fucking bad with dates. But what I remember is that I had taken Lincoln at 3 years old to North Carolina, just her and I. And then when Delta turned three, I was like, I'm gonna take you to Michigan. It was like springish summer. That trip was planned. And then I ended up kind of last minute going to see my mom in Barton. And when I was there, things were quite untenable and bad. I had to like talk to the hospice woman and find out. I don't know what you want me to say or not want me to.
Bri Morrison
Say it in Oregon, Right. Is it legal there?
Aaron
But he would have had to, you can go get it, but you gotta go in person and prove your mentally sound. And he was intending to do that. And he missed his window. All of a sudden he was just stuck in bed and he couldn't go. So I said to the woman, I don't know what you want me to say or not say. And she said, don't worry, I've been in this situation lots. What I'm gonna say, I heard you ask is how can we keep him very comfortable? So let me show you the schedule of drugs. That is, you have to do it this way. And these are the ones that are at your discretion as he needs it. And she kind of walked me through what's gonna get measured at the end, what's not, what's loosey goosey, and said, I'll be back. And then at one point he was unconscious, but he was foaming. And my mom was freaking out and she came back and I was like, what do he's foaming at the moment? She's like, don't worry, I have drops for that. Let me go get drops. So it was interesting. I was like, all unspoken. I then left there and immediately I just flew to la, went home, grabbed Delta, brought her back, got on a plane and went to Detroit. And on that flight to Detroit with her, I was like, holy cow. That was a crazy three days, because it took a couple days, two and a half days.
Bri Morrison
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Aaron
It was gnarly. But why Didn't I even bring that up?
Bri Morrison
I know. Cause I saw him. Cause anyway. Regrets.
Aaron
Do you think you would have been nervous to call my dad? Cause it would have felt disrespectful to Kristen.
Bri Morrison
Yes. That was 100%. The case actually was so sweet. There was like, it must have been on social media at some point where you guys were all in the hospital. And that's the only way I even knew it was close to the end was because of this. And I had a really strong desire to reach out at the hospital. Oh.
Dax
Cause Kristen was pregnant.
Bri Morrison
Because Kristen was pregnant. And like, you'd just been able to tell him. And I was like, this just isn't.
Aaron
Let me ask you this. Brad friendly with his exes.
Bri Morrison
No. Right.
Aaron
And either is Kristen. And so I think initially when Kristen and I started dating, you were still coming over a lot. Cause my mom was living at my house. You were around even in like the first month or two we were dating. And she initially was like, this is really wild. Like, I'm not friends with any of my exes. I don't hang out with any of my exes. And I'm like, I'm friends with all mine. Pretty much over time, she got super comfortable with it and absolutely at ease with it. But it is interesting. There's been a couple moments where. Where I was like, oh, is that potentially hurtful? Like, I did a live show in Seattle, and I, of course, invited your parents. Yes.
Bri Morrison
They were very excited.
Aaron
And I had the sweetest time with your dad imaginable. And I just love him so much. I would say, like, oh, I'm inviting Bri's parents to Sean. I'm like, is that one gonna be a thing? It is interesting when you extend it out, maybe it's a little trickier, like the parents thing.
Bri Morrison
Definitely. I mean, I've talked to your mom over the years here and there, or if she's been in town and had lunch. Losing the relationship with your mom was one of the hardest parts. Cause I remember when we went to therapy initially, like, sort of like, let's work this out. And immediately he was sort of like, you know, I know my job is to keep people together, but I very clearly see this as me helping you guys. Yeah, exactly. But I feel like we worked that out, you know, with help and all that. And it felt very.
Aaron
I think we should even back up. My best friend when I was in Washington was your ex boyfriend. And when you were in Michigan, your best friend was my ex girlfriend, Carrie.
Bri Morrison
Oh, yeah. Love Carrie. William Michelle, all that whole crew.
Aaron
But also.
Bri Morrison
But your mom.
Aaron
Oh, I'm only pointing out, like, you and I were already always very comfortable with that. And you and I were both the kind of people that stay friends with our exes.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. That just doesn't matter. But yes, I definitely felt that Chris and I didn't want to step on.
Aaron
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I think that's very sweet that you felt like missing my mom would be a big one.
Bri Morrison
Yeah, it was a big deal because.
Aaron
She loves you so much, you know.
Bri Morrison
I mean, like, I was so young and for so long. She was very much a mom figure to me. I still love Lorbos.
Dax
Who doesn't?
Aaron
Do you know that Brie's husband, Brad and Kristin went on a date in college?
Bri Morrison
Did they not go on? No. She was dating one of his friends.
Aaron
She thinks they went on a date.
Bri Morrison
I mean, he'll like that.
Aaron
She tells people. You should tell him.
Bri Morrison
I mean, maybe they. Maybe he's cute or something, but she was dating sex.
Aaron
Someone that he was good friends with.
Bri Morrison
That he was friends with.
Aaron
Maybe that came after.
Bri Morrison
It could have.
Aaron
She thinks they went on a date.
Bri Morrison
I like it.
Aaron
She doesn't think anything really happened, but she thinks she went on a date.
Dax
How could that possibly happen in this universe?
Bri Morrison
No. Isn't that what I mean? There's so many random, weird. I mean, super fan, Kristen, but I like seeing similarities between us, you and Kristen.
Aaron
Which ones?
Bri Morrison
Just kindness and beauty and intelligence.
Aaron
No, but you know what quality you both have, which is super hard working. Super hard working.
Bri Morrison
Hot. Yeah.
Aaron
Great moms.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Aaron
No. Something that you guys have that I value so much is I think you two above any other people I've ever met. You have your opinions and your position, but you're really able to listen to another point of view and consider it and integrate it. Neither of you guys are like, slightly. You're very fluid.
Bri Morrison
Yeah, I would agree with that about myself.
Aaron
Yeah. It's.
Bri Morrison
I know Kristen well enough to know.
Aaron
For me, it's an imperative quality. Cause I'm most interested in going like, oh, I feel this way. Okay. Now I'm gonna really make myself try to believe I'm a Republican. And I think that's killing a baby. Okay. Yeah, I get that. If you think that's killing a baby, that's gotta be your number one issue. You gotta stop killing babies. That's gotta be above tariffs and everything else. I get it. They'll go like, well, he's racist, but. Yeah, but if you're evaluating racism against Kill. That's a very simple decision. So I love spending time thinking that way. And I think if I was just with someone who's like, knowing this.
Bri Morrison
It's gotta be this way.
Aaron
Yeah.
Bri Morrison
But I do think it is a funny, small world. Even that they went to college and ran in the same circle is impossible.
Aaron
But I also think it was, like, helpful in Kristin opening up to the notion that you could be trusted and be friends. I think the fact that your partner was a guy she liked. Oh, sure. Was interesting. I felt like that was a good thing.
Bri Morrison
I think it was really. That she wanted to get her hands on. He was really willing to really put anything aside in order to get a piece of that stuff.
Dax
That's true.
Aaron
That was also a big building moment. Is that.
Bri Morrison
I mean, you guys had him for, like, six months.
Aaron
Did we? Is that the longest we had him?
Bri Morrison
You had him the whole time we were in Australia.
Aaron
God, I loved Mac so much.
Bri Morrison
She, like, used him for sort of larky things on the Internet. Like, he was, like, always doing dumb shit.
Aaron
Yeah. He was an influencer when he was with her, as he was always meant to be the craziest. Like, the world's too small. I was in New York with Kristen. We're walking down the street, and there's a guy on a bicycle, and in a basket, he has a little Brussels Griffon. And I stop, as I always stop and look at Brussels Griffon because of Mac. And I'm looking at this dog, and I'm like, it's Mac.
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I go, man, this dog looks so much like this little Brussels I watch sometimes now named Mac. And he immediately goes, wait, Mac, who was the girl who originally.
Bri Morrison
Margarita La Viva, who's doing a show with Brad right now. And we got to sit down and talk about Mac for, like, an hour. A few weeks ago, she's on Daredevil. She remembers the moment. It's funny. Cause I felt like I had stolen.
Aaron
Him from her because she was away on a movie.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. I knew he was supposed to be with you.
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Dax
So this was Mac, or it was Mac's brother.
Aaron
And I go. He goes, wait, Mac, who Marguerite adopted? And I'm like, yes. And lo and behold, Mac used to be a New Yorker. And then Brie took him to New York, which is one of your funniest stories. You say you took him outside the hotel and set him down on the ground. You know, he was this big.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Aaron
And he just immediately was like, that's right. He was strutting around New York as it was his city.
Bri Morrison
I mean, he strutted around everywhere. He walked across the stage at ucla.
Aaron
Oh, he did?
Bri Morrison
Yeah. He walked across. I had him tucked away in my. He's been Disney World. I took him on the Graviton.
Aaron
You can't bring a dog to Disney World, can you? Yes.
Bri Morrison
No, I snuck him in.
Aaron
Oh, right. But you're not formally allowed to. Okay, great. That's great.
Bri Morrison
He went everywhere. The Gravitron was really. When Brad was like, okay, babe, like, I don't think he wants to be on the Graviton. He's pressed to the side.
Aaron
He's not gonna enjoy the Gravitron. Was Brad instantly at ease with us being friends?
Bri Morrison
Yeah. I feel like because he came in, we're were already friends.
Aaron
Right.
Bri Morrison
So it didn't really. Yeah. I don't remember it ever bothering him.
Aaron
He's so radical.
Bri Morrison
Oh, my God, he's the best.
Aaron
Now, do we have any overlap with what, like, you and Kristen share that thing? Do Brad and I share anything? He's very ambitious.
Bri Morrison
He is very ambitious.
Aaron
Yeah.
Bri Morrison
So that's very smart.
Aaron
I always said, you should have started a talent agency because you found me and I was a directionless drunk.
Bri Morrison
No, same. And Brad's like, I picked you up in a Honda Civic and, like, literally did not have a job. He just uncovered a picture because we were looking for pictures of Maisie for her bat mitzvah and stuff, and he uncovered a picture of me installing a toilet paper roll holder at his apartment, because he didn't even have a toilet paper roll holder. So I went to Home Depot, bought him a screwdriver, and, like, put it.
Aaron
In, you know, her husband who she met, who was penniless, he was doing epk, maybe running a video camera on Iron Man.
Bri Morrison
He was the producer's assistant, like, getting coffee and writing. Check. But he also, by the way, had an Emmy at that time. He had, like, a Webby and an Emmy for web content.
Aaron
But now it's Kevin Feige and him at Marvel. He's like, the baddest motherfucker at Marvel. So when we broke up, I think certainly in retrospect, it was time for that.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Aaron
Amicable as it could be when you're with someone in black.
Bri Morrison
Absolutely.
Aaron
So, like, the breakup was manageable. But I will say, for a while, I did think, well, I'll never be in love with someone again in that way. I had a deep fear. I'm like, oh, I don't. I don't think I'll ever really feel the way I felt about Bri with anybody. I was quite scared of that.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. I think it's so funny because for me, it basically was that I fell in love with someone while we were dating and was sort of like, oh, shit, I can't do both things.
Aaron
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Bri Morrison
But I actually very quickly did not like that guy after that. So sometimes I wonder, like, did I just let myself get tangled up in those feelings in order to do what I knew was going to serve me ultimately, which was that we needed to not be together. And I don't know what, too. If you have an open relationship with someone for so long, can you go back and then not.
Aaron
Can you go back and then not.
Bri Morrison
Have an open relationship?
Aaron
Oh, right. Well, I will say so. Ours was, I would say, by all accounts, quite successful. To go nine years open.
Bri Morrison
Absolutely. Four years for me.
Aaron
That's a terrible night.
Bri Morrison
Four years.
Aaron
Whole round of guilt tonight.
Bri Morrison
No, no, because I didn't actually. What's so funny is I, again, I think that there's, like. I don't really get mad.
Aaron
No, I know.
Bri Morrison
Or I just don't really. Like.
Aaron
I just think that great qualities and a kind of a sad quality.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. But the whole human experience is so complicated. Why would you waste any time, like, begrudging someone?
Aaron
When I look back, there's really nothing I regret. But I will say I can see the things that also fueled me, which is like, I think for myself, I was inclined to be smarter and transcendent of this thing that lesser smart people were trapped in, if that makes any sense. Like, I like the idea, when I'm crafting my story of who I am, that other people succumb to this and I don't. I'm above this.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Aaron
Like, yes, my girlfriend may like other boys at times, but I can handle that. And I'm kind of above that.
Bri Morrison
I think I felt the same way about that.
Aaron
I don't remember any being mad at you ever, really. I mean, we had some fights when we were drunk.
Bri Morrison
Oh, God.
Aaron
Us drunk was a bad combo, which.
Bri Morrison
Was hard because we were drunk a lot. Yes.
Aaron
Yes, we were drunk a lot. But I think in general, we didn't almost never, ever, ever fought. Yeah. Our relationship was like Aaron and I's friendship. We just never fought.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. I don't really get incensed. I just don't really get mad when.
Aaron
I think back of that period, my whole 20s, where it was like, I had moved to this state to do this thing, and I was failing at it. I was Pretty certain I was gonna continue to fail at it. Like, I wasn't optimistic about it. The kind of burden of my ambition's not a good enough word for it, but just, I have to do something special. I have to be special. Everyone has thought I was special growing up, and I have to deliver. And, like, the weight of that was quite intense. Did you have that?
Bri Morrison
No.
Aaron
Okay. Because when you're saying that cancer was pleasurable, I relate. But I relate in the way that I would have an excuse to, like, take my foot off the gas and not have to evaluate how much I'm doing and am I achieving my potential and all that. But that's not what was comforting to you about it.
Bri Morrison
Yeah. No, I.
Aaron
Does that make any sense?
Bri Morrison
It does make sense, because I know.
Aaron
A lot of people. Because you had the drive to go get all A's, but you didn't feel this enormous.
Bri Morrison
Also, because I think truly, truly, truly. I wish I had just stayed in school and had been, like, an English professor, because I really just like working in the world of ideas, talking, thinking about the way people think. That's why I love reading so much. Cause it's really just looking inside people's brains and just listening to all their deepest inner thoughts. And that's my favorite thing to do. Or, like, I wish I would have become a therapist or something. But I remember when I was working for Gavin and Greg, I was really like, okay, I'm supposed to have ambition now. I'm supposed to, like, do something in this industry. I'm smart. I owe it to the world, like, make it. But I never knew what making it looked like for me. Like, you knew you wanted to be a comedian. You wanted to get the most laughs. You wanted the biggest audience.
Aaron
Right, right, right.
Bri Morrison
I never really knew what making it looked like.
Aaron
Right.
Bri Morrison
Because I didn't have a goal. My goal was always just like, I want to be wherever I am. And talking to the people that I'm talking to.
Aaron
Yeah.
Bri Morrison
And getting into it.
Aaron
Yeah.
Bri Morrison
Which is also, I think one of the things I really liked about drinking is because it's so funny how many people are so sad that I don't drink.
Aaron
So sad.
Bri Morrison
Like, so sad.
Aaron
Sure, you're a good time.
Bri Morrison
They're just like, oh. Like, it's almost as if my drinking gave them permission to have a good time.
Aaron
Yes.
Bri Morrison
And it's so hilarious to me. So I'm like. On the one hand, I'm like, well, thank God they're not like, oh, God, she really needed to quit. You know, like, it Wasn't. Yeah.
Aaron
People aren't going, phew.
Bri Morrison
Great idea. But it is funny to me because I'm like, no. One of my gifts is really just being in the moment with the people that I'm with. And alcohol especially can loosen people up to go deeper with themselves and with the people around them.
Aaron
You're almost committing to the hang because you're like, well, we're going to be drunk in a little bit, and then we can't go to work or go.
Bri Morrison
Exercise and just keep shooting the shit.
Aaron
Yes, we have.
Bri Morrison
No stay up all night and shoot the shit. And that's what's so great now, is when I'm around the bonfire with my family and things, I'm still last one up. I'm still talking, everybody. And what I've also realized. So my daughter's Bat Mitzvah was just this Saturday.
Sponsor Voice
Yeah.
Bri Morrison
And my Gigi, my Grandma Winkle, she was famously sober for many years, but she's always like, marie, it's fine. As long as you start out sober with everybody. You'll just feel as drunk as everybody else by the end of the night. She's like, you just can't go into it.
Aaron
Right. You can't show up where everyone's hammered.
Bri Morrison
No. So even by the end of the night, I'm now seeing that more and more. I'm getting more value that that's the case.
Aaron
Yes.
Bri Morrison
And it loosens my grip on feeling like I'm supposed to participate in that way, because I feel like, oh, I'm still bringing every bit as much as I was bringing to the table as I was before. More so. And I get to wake up and remember it and, like, have more fun and feel great the next day.
Sponsor Voice
Yeah.
Aaron
Feeling great in the morning was such a rare.
Dax
It doesn't annoy you at all, like.
Bri Morrison
When people get really super wasted. Yeah.
Dax
And staying up all night with them.
Bri Morrison
You know, it just depends. Not with my family. Like, I still, like. Because my brain is myelinated to know these people so well at this stage of drunkenness, too, you know, that I just, like, fall right into some of the same conversations that we still need to have, you know, many, many years later. It doesn't annoy me that much. It definitely annoys me sometimes when people are, you know, a little too drunk, but then I just go to bed, and that's why they're disappointed.
Aaron
Let me ask you this. There's kind of a cliche, but I think there's some merit to it that girls fall harder, but guys fall longer. There's something about the. We just had an expert on, like, women end more relationships than guys end relationships. That was interesting to me.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Aaron
Girls tend to break up with boys more than boys break up with girls.
Bri Morrison
Is that because the girl has another option?
Aaron
I don't know what the explanation is. Okay, where I'm going with this is we broke up. Well, I was just very disoriented for a while. I remember an exact moment where I was just very disoriented for a while. And I was shooting a movie in New York City, staying at the Maritime Hotel. And there's this great Italian restaurant downstairs, and it's outside. And I was out there in New York City by myself, and I was single. And even though we were in an open relationship, I obviously never felt single.
Bri Morrison
Sure.
Aaron
I wouldn't have taken anyone on a date. And I just had this moment. And we had been broken up for probably maybe a year at that point. And I remember going, oh, this is fun. I'm single in New York City, and I worked two days a week. And it kind of lifted a bit. But the part that didn't lift for me, and I'm curious if you relate at all. What was hugely important to me always from the moment we broke up, is I pray she meets someone that she falls in love with. I just thought about it a lot, and I was just so hopeful that you would find someone that you loved a lot again.
Bri Morrison
Yeah.
Aaron
And I just remember being so happy about Brad.
Bri Morrison
No, Brad. I think more than I think everyone's so happy about. I mean, I was so happy. So one of the hardest things about when we broke up was that I really had my head around. We were gonna have kids.
Aaron
Yes.
Bri Morrison
We had a house now. Like, it was gonna be this thing that I wanted. I was getting on in years, you know, like, these were the things.
Aaron
Well, we had always said, oh, when you turn 30.
Bri Morrison
30. Yeah, we're gonna go have a kid. So it was, like, around that time. I mean, I met Brady on my 30th birthday, but I think I was, like, 28 or 29 when we were, like, kind of bring. Anyway, I was like, I'm gonna find. And I kept dating people who had civics. No, I was, like, trying to date people who, like, had some scratch. Were established and were already established. And it just wasn't working. And I was like, I need to be in love. Like, I have to be in love. I'm a real romantic. So when I met Brad and was, like, very much swept off my feet, never looked back we went straight. You know, we always just say, 1, 2, 3, we're married, and made it happen. I was like, no. So grateful. But I think it was so funny, is I was really worried about losing. The thing I wanted for my future was great family experience. And also, I think that went into, like, losing your mom and feeling like, well, that's my. You know.
Aaron
Yeah.
Sponsor Voice
Yeah.
Aaron
Well, I had the same thing in that I was a bit panicked. Cause I was 32 when I met Kristen. I was 30, thinking, like, I'm supposed to be getting you pregnant right now. My timeline was like, at 32, that was gonna start. And I was like, well, I have to date someone for at least a couple years before I have kids. I gotta find out if they're really good. I gotta live with them. All that. And I just remember feeling very pressured about that one. I was dating before I met Kristen. I was like, if. Three weeks. I thought, this isn't like a huge. I'm like, out.
Bri Morrison
Oh, I was going through on that. Yes. And, you know, with the high bar.
Aaron
Yes, yes, yes, yes. Word.
Dax
You guys are doing the same thing.
Aaron
Were you ever worried, like, boy, I hope he falls in love again? I have a hunch. Not.
Bri Morrison
I mean, I don't think.
Aaron
Which I think is good.
Bri Morrison
I didn't think about it much, but. Because I guess from my perspective, because your career was really sort of meteoric in that moment. And it also just felt like I couldn't keep up with that. So I sometimes felt like, well, we didn't just break up because of xyz. It was also. I didn't know how to keep up with this new really big thing that was happening in your life.
Dax
Yeah.
Bri Morrison
And I didn't really know where I fit.
Aaron
I was so bad at that. I was very bad at letting you feel like it was our money.
Bri Morrison
No. Definitely was not ours. And I don't. And I don't think it was definitely not. I remember, like, buying a dress for a premiere to go to one of your premieres and going to a thrift store and not feeling like I could really afford the dress that I wanted.
Aaron
Oh, man.
Bri Morrison
Which is fine, because I think that's not fine.
Aaron
It's regrettable.
Dax
Is your girlfriend homeless?
Aaron
You should really get your assistant a nicer dress. My assistant? That's my wife. Why are you in a tuxedo?
Bri Morrison
No, but because to me, the joke was always, I'm in really good company. Because you were dating all these, you know, hot celebrity. Oh, sure. Once we broke up, I was never thinking you were Going to fall in love. You were freaking hanging out with, you know these big time. I was like, okay, if anything, you.
Aaron
Might have thought, like, this guy might end up with Natalie Portman.
Bri Morrison
No, I am fine. I know your real true dream.
Aaron
I do.
Dax
45.
Bri Morrison
So how many episodes are you guys doing of this?
Dax
12.
Bri Morrison
12, is it all old blasts from the past?
Aaron
That's the last one.
Bri Morrison
Ooh, last but not least, you're Tim.
Dax
We did have Tim Lovestead. We had Nate, Kristen, Monica, Jackie, Tone, Kristen's friends from their new show, too. Tim Simonson.
Aaron
You know him? Oh, no, you don't watch tv? I was gonna say Veep really tall.
Bri Morrison
Oh, I do know. I actually did watch Kristen's show.
Aaron
Did you like it?
Bri Morrison
I did. Nobody wants this.
Aaron
Yeah, Aaron and I watched it together in Texas.
Bri Morrison
Okay.
Aaron
We were down in the bus going from grocery store to grocery store to meet. Meet people for Ted Seegers. Oh, yeah. And we put it on in that first kiss right down there on the sidewalk.
Dax
We both got heated up.
Aaron
It happened, and I paused it and I go, what do you think of that kiss in Aaron's like, that was incredible.
Bri Morrison
No, that kiss was famous.
Aaron
It's like maybe the best kiss I've ever seen in a movie.
Bri Morrison
They did a great. Really great actor. They did excellent acting.
Aaron
Yeah, acting.
Bri Morrison
Really good acting, Aaron.
Aaron
God, has she ever kissed you like that? I go, no. And he goes, I don't know who I want to kiss me more or her or him.
Dax
Yeah, I just want to be involved in that kiss.
Bri Morrison
Exactly. Everyone.
Dax
Get me into.
Aaron
You will watch the ones where, like, everyone's talking about it. You kind of have to watch it.
Bri Morrison
I like Erin and Sarah Foster. I had sort of followed them loosely on social media because a really good friend of mine worked for a company that did the whole favorite daughter thing and really still like free stuff.
Aaron
Oh, yeah.
Bri Morrison
It's like free koozies at the frickin. Give me a fucking koozie.
Aaron
I want a koozie.
Bri Morrison
I want a koozie. I want a keychain. We got.
Aaron
You can't wash. I don't know if you remember this, but Josh and I wrote a sketch about that.
Bri Morrison
Yes, we want a Frisbee.
Aaron
Like, all the things the guys want. And it's like, you gotta maintain washing machine.
Bri Morrison
But I got a bunch of free T shirts from that company for part of their campaign. And I followed them so. Because I just sort of followed them. And I never knew she was a writer. Producer Aaron Foster. So when she did it, and then I saw Kristen was in it. I was like, oh, I gotta watch that.
Aaron
Yeah, I'll give this a shot.
Bri Morrison
Yeah, I'll give this a shot.
Aaron
And thank God, because every single human being was talking about it.
Bri Morrison
I mean, I actually watch everything Kristen's in, and not in a weird. But I really love the Good Place. Yes. She just has good taste, you know.
Aaron
And she's insanely talented. Yes.
Bri Morrison
No, I know. So I only watch the best things, and she's in all of the best things.
Aaron
Well, can I tell you the thing that I think that you guys have the most? It's just how I feel, which is I admire both of you so much, and I realize that's a rare thing to get in a partner is that I just admire you so much. I like who you are so much.
Bri Morrison
That's so nice.
Aaron
You're just one of the greats of all time. I'm glad our lives worked out so well.
Sponsor Voice
Me, too.
Bri Morrison
We did a good job.
Aaron
It all worked out well.
Sponsor Voice
I love you.
Aaron
I'm so happy you did this. This was so fun. And I think your short, curly hair is very cute.
Bri Morrison
I know. It's so funny.
Dax
It's so fun.
Bri Morrison
It's so funny. I like it. So my David Hasselhoff era, but I also look like. Well, I kind of look like a Blanche and Dorothy.
Dax
Dorothy.
Bri Morrison
Dorothy.
Date: October 21, 2025
Guests: Aaron, Dax Shepard, Briegh Morrison
This episode of Mom's Car, an Armchair Expert offshoot, features a candid, affectionate, and deeply personal conversation between Aaron, his ex-girlfriend Briegh Morrison, and Dax Shepard. The trio reminisce about their shared past, explore themes of vulnerability, growth, relationships, addiction, parenthood, and survival—both literal and emotional. The honest, humorous, messy, and tender dialogue reveals how their histories intertwine, how trauma can lead to transformation, and what it means to truly celebrate and support those you once loved, even as life moves on in surprising ways.
Chevy Bolt & Car Buying During COVID
([01:22]-[01:43])
The conversation opens with lighthearted banter about cars, with Brie choosing a practical Chevy Bolt during the height of the pandemic, touching on the absurdities and frustrations of car buying during that era.
"I got the absolute last one. It was like Covid mad dash for them." —Brie, 01:38
High-Low Tastes & Materialism
([01:50]-[03:16])
The hosts reflect on their shifting relationships to money and status, sharing how, despite greater means, they often "go lower" as success grows—except for hotels.
"In fact, the more money we have, the lower I go in general." —Brie, 02:23
"Hotels. I'm such a fucking snob." —Aaron, 03:07
Brie self-identifies as a "trash monster," delighting in fancy but already slightly trashed vintage goods.
([04:03]-[07:56])
The group reminisces about legendary cross-country motorcycle trips, falling asleep on the back of the bike, wild nights in Wisconsin bars that were actual houses, and the camaraderie of being "so dirty" at the end of a long day.
"One of the greatest things I ever did was that stretch of highway where there's no exit...I went, like, 135 miles an hour." —Brie, 05:58
"You'd be so dirty. Your arms would just be so dirty..." —Brie, 07:36
Smoking In the House and Nostalgia
([09:36]-[11:52])
The nostalgia for old habits, like smoking in their tiny apartment—even on 9/11—shows up alongside stories of hosting friends with asthma and creating a cozy, albeit hazy, home.
"We like literally lit up cigarettes. We were like, fuck it. We could smoke inside. It's 9/11." —Brie, 09:47
"So cigarette smoke in interiors is actually like a Proustie and Madeleine for me." —Brie, 11:28
Nicotine, Cancer Diagnosis, and Sobriety
([12:27]-[19:23])
Brie reveals her journey with breast cancer, the shock of the diagnosis, and its indirect path to her sobriety, describing how deep suffering gave her access to equally deep joy.
"Cancer led to me getting sober. It's funny when the thing becomes a gift, like the hard thing." —Brie, 19:00
"You're only able to experience the amount of joy in direct opposition to the amount of suffering..." —Brie, 19:12
She candidly recounts the missed detection due to breast density, the role of a "hippie dippy" doctor, and the grim surprise when the cancer turned out to be a large, almost undetectable lobular tumor. "You couldn't even feel it. Even when I had the full tumor in there, you could not feel a lump." —Brie, 20:51
Treatment Trauma and Resilience
([21:07]-[23:32])
Brie details her surgeries, chemo, radiation, reconstructive procedures, and the absurd moments along the way, like being “lopsided” post-reconstruction and joking about “God smiting” her because she valued her boobs too much.
"I was so devastated about losing any of the tissue...and now I'm, like, super stoked." —Brie, 23:18
She discusses the waves of support—and abandonment—from friends, and the different ways people deal with someone else’s illness.
"You kind of had three different camps. The people who want to spend as much time with you before you die...those I was super happy about...then the people who just—your cancer is too hard for me. They're just gone." —Brie, 24:10
Isaac’s Near-Drowning & Maternal Guilt
([14:13]-[17:33])
Brie tells the harrowing story of her son’s near-drowning, her teaching instincts kicking in, the aftermath, and the overwhelming maternal guilt and depression that followed.
"The one literal. One section of the pool I could not see. He was laying face down in it...I ran across the water, pulled up lifeless—just no breathing, no anything...I started doing compressions." —Brie, 15:25
She describes the heavy depression after, being put briefly on benzodiazepines, and the physiological toll of acute terror.
"It turned me black into bright white...like Obama...like stress." —Brie, 17:19
Addiction’s Spectrum & Open Relationships
([32:30]-[34:06]; [49:15]-[54:10])
The trio explores how drinking and drug use colored their lives, how Brie often judged herself by her messier roommates or partners, and how she transitioned from heavy partying to productive adulthood.
"I almost would rather just be a drunk. And then you gotta quit, and then you don't even have to even ever evaluate it anymore." —Aaron, 33:57
They openly tackle their years in an open relationship, how that worked (and didn't), and the eventual healthy detachment:
"By all accounts, [our open relationship] was quite successful. To go nine years open..." —Aaron, 49:22
The Social Role of Alcohol, Post-Sobriety Joy
Brie reflects on how people are almost “sad” she’s sober, as her presence gave others “permission” to have fun, and how she now brings just as much to a gathering—without needing to drink.
"One of my gifts is really just being in the moment with the people I’m with. And alcohol especially can loosen people up...but now I’m still last one up, still talking. And I get to wake up and remember it..." —Brie, 54:12
Finding New Love & Letting Go
([56:28]-[59:18])
Both Aaron and Brie touch on their anxieties and hopes for each other after their breakup; Aaron admits he truly wanted Brie to find love again, feeling closure when she did.
"What was hugely important to me...I pray she meets someone that she falls in love with. I just thought about it a lot, and I was just so hopeful..." —Aaron, 56:18
Brie, meanwhile, discusses the difficulty of giving up a future she’d imagined with Aaron but feels so grateful for her whirlwind romance and marriage to Brad—and how, after breakups, new family can be built with intention.
"So when I met Brad and was, like, very much swept off my feet, never looked back...So grateful." —Brie, 57:37
Friendships with Exes and Family Connections
([40:00]-[43:15])
The hosts discuss being friends with exes, the challenge for new partners, sustaining parental bonds after breakups, and feeling the bittersweet loss of those relationships.
"Losing the relationship with your mom was one of the hardest parts." —Brie, 42:19
([62:39]-[63:12])
Closing the episode with profound mutual admiration, Aaron reflects on the unique gift of being able to truly admire someone you’ve loved, and how it all worked out—messy, but good.
"I just admire you so much. I like who you are so much." —Aaron, 62:39
"You're just one of the greats of all time. I'm glad our lives worked out so well." —Aaron, 62:54
The episode is unvarnished, warm, and laced with the easy humor and candor that define Armchair Expert. The hosts laugh at absurdities, lay bare their regrets and pride, and model a kind of mature, affectionate friendship rarely seen between ex-lovers—one that has survived all the "messiness of being human" and come out wiser, if a little more weathered, on the other side.
This episode is a masterclass in loving well, letting go, and living with the past. Through unsparing honesty, riotous stories, hard-won wisdom, and playful teasing, Aaron, Dax, and Brie show what true intimacy and growth look like—even among exes. The main truth: You can survive hurt, love, and loss, and find connection, laughter, and admiration through it all.