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Jack Armstrong
Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio
Joe Getty
Studio at the George Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now here's Armstrong, Armstrong and Getty.
Caller or Guest
Hey there.
Jack Armstrong
You've tuned in to the best weekend talk show in America.
Joe Getty
We talk about what's happening around the country and around the world. Without left wing spin.
Jack Armstrong
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Joe Getty
Then enjoy the best weekend talk show in America. A Chinese woman in Las Vegas pled guilty to marrying at least 14 men
Caller or Guest
at the same time.
Jack Armstrong
When asked if she knew what she
Joe Getty
did was wrong, she responded, I do.
Jack Armstrong
In Las Vegas. So I was there just a couple of weeks ago and we were dragging the strip in the classic Mustang that I rented, me and my son, and we're going by all those little wedding chapels that they have. And I was trying to explain to my son about the like quickie Vegas marriage, but don't have a good explanation as a why was that ever a thing? How is it still a thing? There are we probably passed eight different tiny little Some of them are drive through wedding chapels. I would assume they're only open because they get enough business to make it profitable. Why are there still so many people doing the quickie Vegas wedding? Do you know anything about that?
Joe Getty
No, I really don't. I'd be guessing. I mean my guess is that a
Jack Armstrong
certain number of people, a certain number
Joe Getty
of people don't want a big wedding, but they want to have fun. They want the wedding to be something Just not the conventional in Vegas will do it for you with a dozen different varieties.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
I guess as opposed to going down to the justice of the peace and signing papers and walking home.
Jack Armstrong
And enough people do it to keep those places open. They're all really small. They like the, like the size of
Joe Getty
a Dutch brother's coffee.
Jack Armstrong
And there's lots of them.
Joe Getty
How many folks are still getting the Elvis themed wedding? Like an Elvis imitator impersonator does that? Because that was big for a minute.
Jack Armstrong
Drove by that place. Yep.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it still exists. There's just one. Do they have some sort of. Some sort of license from the estate of the King or something?
Jack Armstrong
I do not know.
Joe Getty
You'd think the First Amendment would protect Faux Elvi from prosecution.
Jack Armstrong
So every six months or so, we change the clock in this country. And every six months or so we have an actual conversation about why do we do this? And Congress voted overwhelmingly yesterday. It wasn't even close. It was 300 some to 100 some to make daylight saving time permanent. But the bill faces an uncertain fate in the Senate. Why? I don't understand the resistance to this. Why do I? I wish I were a congressperson so I could have suggested an amendment, a sunset clause, which is actually kind of funny if you think about it. A sunset class. How about we try it for two years and if we decide we don't like it, we'll go back. It's not going to be a disaster. We might just decide we like the other one better. This isn't a big deal. First of all, I don't understand Arizona and Hawaii don't do it. There aren't stacks of dead bodies. People don't just run around screaming because the time didn't change. They don't know how to act. These things seem to be fine.
Joe Getty
Right?
Jack Armstrong
Give it a go.
Joe Getty
Even do it for a year. And then everybody will get together and say, I thought it was okay.
Jack Armstrong
Two thirds of the world does not do it at all.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
A third of the world does. Let's try it and see what happens. We'll either like it or not.
Joe Getty
Putting aside your trademark mirth, what is. Is this uniquely American or 21st century or yet another example of a very comfortable wealthy people? We fear change. We've talked about this with the tax code a million times. Anybody who would design the federal tax code as it is right now should be permanently held in a mental institution. Okay? Our tax system is completely insane and bizarre. It's Kafkaesque. And yet whenever a perfectly coherent, reasonable proposal comes along, to say, hey, how about we totally reform our tax system and do this instead? People go crazy about the small inconveniences.
Jack Armstrong
And I've heard that we should probably
Joe Getty
stick with our current system.
Jack Armstrong
This fear of change, that's got to be an evolutionary thing where it's, we're alive and our kids are alive, let's not mess with things. Which is kind of the essence of conservatism really. It's got to be that.
Joe Getty
At the same time though, the pace of change in the modern world is, is dizzying. But if we all get together to vote for some, everybody really hesitates.
Jack Armstrong
Well, maybe you've seen it in your own life, your own household, but sometimes I have to point out to myself or my kids like you're gonna change some minor thing. Yeah, and then there's the, there's the. But what of this, what if that. Okay, if we don't decide, we don't like you sitting there and me sitting there at the dinner table. We'll go back to the old way.
Joe Getty
It's absolutely anthropological. You're right. It's gotta be.
Jack Armstrong
Anyway, the vote was not even close in the House. I don't know why. There are gonna be stumbling blocks in the Senate to this major, major thing that they do in Arizona and tons of old people seem to be perfectly fine with it.
Joe Getty
Oh, that reminds me, speaking of changes.
Jack Armstrong
But next door in New Mexico, they would go. They all set themselves on fire. If for some reason we didn't change
Joe Getty
the clocks twice a year, Dogs lying down with cats, families turning on each other. This will not happen. But I love the idea. Did you know I should, I should come up with a better form of the question. When did Americans start voting for their senators? Individual voters, when did they start voting for Senator?
Jack Armstrong
I'm going to go 1830, 1913. Really?
Joe Getty
Yeah. The Senate was elected by state legislators until 1913. From 1789 to 1913, not a single American cast a ballot for the U.S. senate. Then the 17th Amendment, one of our worst, changed senatorial elections to the direct popular vote following state level reforms in the years prior. Blah, blah, blah. In June, AU Rep Representative of Texas, proposed legislation to repeal the 17th Amendment ending the direct election of senators. That's starting in 1913. As I've mentioned repeatedly. I would love to see this happen.
Jack Armstrong
You would? I know. I was just trying to noodle it through since I haven't thought about it at all. So in your one party states like California, it would end the chance of any Republican being a senator.
Joe Getty
Yeah, it certainly Certainly would in the current, you know, state of things.
Jack Armstrong
Or the reverse in your red states. I'm not trying to make this a partisan thing so you wouldn't have the chance to like cast. Cast a blow against the party in charge by getting one senator from the other party in your state or something.
Joe Getty
Right, right.
Jack Armstrong
The upside of it would be I've lost my faith in voters. That would be like the upside.
Joe Getty
Right, right. The original constitutional provision that the state legislatures choose the senators was not only not an accident, it was one of the least controversial questions at the Constitutional Convention. There's no serious dissent to it. You want to hear the reasoning? The framers built a bicameral Congress in which the House would represent the people directly and the Senate would represent states as states with their own institutional interest in resisting federal encroachment. A senator chosen by and answerable to a state legislator had every incentive to defend that state's prerogatives against Washington, not be a populist nut or a, you know, Instagram fame seeker or whatever. Senator who needs a national fundraising operation, a national media profile and a national donor base to win reelection often has little incentive to be just a fierce representative of their state.
Jack Armstrong
Right. So this sort of fits into the argument that I brought up yesterday, which was floating around online over the weekend. There was a movement, AOC might have brought it up, or somebody about how why does New York State, which has New York City, have two senators when the population of New York City alone is bigger than I think it was Montana, South Dakota, North Dakota, Wyoming and Alaska added together, and that's 10 senators.
Caller or Guest
So.
Jack Armstrong
And the argument would be what you just said there, because then it's going to become the federal government or big cities making decisions for the entire country. Now, people who live in big cities think that that makes sense for the rural areas, but it doesn't. Being a person who's spent most of my life in rural areas.
Joe Getty
Right, exactly. And the differing interests of the differing parts of the country, just in general, it's an ingenious design that the founders came up with. And we've made the Senate more populist and more, to quote James Madison something or other from the people's momentary passions, the design, as it was originally said, a body removed from the immediate popular passion would provide a defense to the people against their own temperature, temporary errors and delusions, preserving public opinions true interest until reason, justice and truth can regain their authority. Meaning, you know, the oft heard phrase that the Senate is the saucer that cools the milk. It would be a very, very careful, very slow moving, deliberative body. It would be essentially a committee of all 50 states getting together and saying, hey, let's be fair to everybody here. I don't have to run for reelection in a couple of years. In fact, as long as I represent Montana faithfully, I really don't have to worry about reelection at all. But in the, you know, in the interest of the people of Montana, I've got to tell you, this scheme to drain all of our water and send it to Los Angeles ain't good. So that's what the Senate was supposed to be. I like it. Populism, especially in the age of the Internet, I think is a dangerous force.
Jack Armstrong
Absolutely. Yeah. And then the Senate being staggered so you can't have a wave that really upsets the Senate as opposed to the House, where you can, where if all of a sudden there's a passion about a war we're in or a tax policy or whatever, you can have a giant wave happen within two years.
Joe Getty
Right.
Jack Armstrong
Which is just, you know, like you said, it's really an ingenious system.
Joe Getty
As to the next, we're accidentally building a case here. Let me throw in one more thing real quickly because the president now is the party, which can cause wild, wild swings in policy. And then you have senators who right now, for populist reasons, are kind of afraid of opposing the sitting president. I'll admit it, it's true. You see it all the time. This would fix that to a large extent.
Jack Armstrong
Ah, you're right. In terms of the national elections thing, though, I was reading some piece about how much more we have that now than we used to. You run on whether you were with Donald Trump or Joe Biden. It used to be all my whole life, what you heard on the Tim Russert style Meet the Press or whatever it was, all politics are local. And that's just not true anymore. All politics is national.
Joe Getty
Right, Right.
Jack Armstrong
It's all about what everybody's watching in the news. And whatever hot YouTube video or whatever,
Joe Getty
including politics, which is bitterly. Needs to be local, becomes national.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, funny, I got into a conversation sort of with a guy last night about the. It was a crazy drug addict homeless person screaming their head off violently near a group of people last night. And I went out and dialed 911 and the cops talked to him. And then the cops called me back and said, yeah, we, we know this guy. We talked to him all the time. And I mentioned to a friend of mine, he said, yeah, because they talk to him every day. Somebody calls 911 every day because he's dangerous and scary and they come and talk to him every day and he's still on the street, right? And kind of got into the whole idea because of our whole nationalized politics, you've got this crowd that. Well, to do anything about the crime or homelessness or this or that would be make you a Trump person or
Joe Getty
not a Trump person.
Jack Armstrong
Which is a ridiculous way to look at your local school, your local taxes, your local water, your local whatever. You know, just like through the pandemic with masks and schools and everything else is Trump forwarder against it. That's the way we run everything now, right?
Joe Getty
Or you know, to put the shoe on the other foot. If some senator had been willing to stand up to Joe Biden and say, hey, this gigantic multi trillion dollar Covid bailout is going to cause spiraling inflation, I won't do it. You couldn't threaten to primary him cuz the people of his state, the legislature of his state and say no, I don't care. I'm glad he stood up to you. That's fine. We'll decide who our senator is, not you. Pouring a bunch of money into our elections and trying to whip up the populist base, blah, blah, blah. I like it. Probably won't happen, but I like it.
Jack Armstrong
At a physical yesterday, apparently you have to have one every so often according to your insurance or something. I hadn't had one in a long time.
Joe Getty
Did you go to Trump's doctor so he would declare you the most physically fit talk show host in history?
Jack Armstrong
Here's the worst thing. And I'm not. I'm going to lie about this for the rest of my life. Oh, my height.
Joe Getty
Oh, it's yeah, yeah, yeah.
Jack Armstrong
Freaking gravity, man.
Joe Getty
Newton, you bastard. Mind your own business. Yeah, it's your dangled discs between your vertebrae. They get squashed.
Jack Armstrong
That's maddening.
Joe Getty
I know, I know.
Jack Armstrong
My doctor actually said, he said, call yourself what you used to be. It doesn't cost anything.
Joe Getty
Jack's gone from 6 foot 2 to 4 11. I mean, it's really, really shocking, right? I had to get rid of all his clothes, all right, the pants I
Jack Armstrong
keep, I gotta like buckle them around my neck.
Joe Getty
It's really kind of a jumpsuit now.
Caller or Guest
I can't go on those amusement, amusement rides anymore.
Jack Armstrong
Most rides I'm too short for. It's terrible.
Joe Getty
Damn it.
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Joe Getty
The hot thing in California college campuses is this dating app. Has it got a clever name?
Jack Armstrong
Sure. I don't remember.
Joe Getty
It doesn't matter that instead of like flipping through pictures, you fill out questionnaires of your interests and your favorite things
Jack Armstrong
and AI matches you up.
Joe Getty
Amazing. And they are claiming an astounding 90 plus percent level of let's do a second date. Which is pretty good measure of success if you believe the numbers. And I don't. Although you know, it's probably a pretty good system. But my immediate reaction when I first read about this and I think the writer writing about it said the same thing, is there's this funny assumption that you need to have like hobbies and interests. I know musical tastes in common and to fall in love.
Jack Armstrong
I know. Where does that come from?
Joe Getty
I've never found that to be true.
Jack Armstrong
It's not even true with my male friends. Why we become friends and enter into personal relationships doesn't seem to have anything to do with that. Sometimes it's because you both play golf, but you might hate each other's music or whatever. I mean there's just. There's some overlap but they just kind of accidental. It's. That's usually not why you're close.
Joe Getty
Yeah. And you know, I've. I've been with Judy now for 40 years. We just took a couple of weeks off to celebrate it. I remember in the early days, I mean we had some common interests. We met doing Gladys.
Jack Armstrong
Are you quiet?
Joe Getty
Quitting there. It was 1983, believe it or not when we met and. And we were both doing musical theater. She was in the cast, I was in the band. But. But beyond that, it's. She had no interest in golf. It plays a little now. Not like most of the music I liked. Had no interest in sports in general. And I was obsessed. You know, I could go on down the line, sure. But we hit it off as friends, found each other to be attractive, made each other feel safe and made each other laugh. And I couldn't have given a crap whether she liked gardening or opera.
Jack Armstrong
But an online dating, which I did for like six months if you're not into. If you're not a foodie who wants to do stand up paddleboarding, well, then why would I want to date you? Okay, well, that denies all your friends who are happily married who don't necessarily have those things in common.
Caller or Guest
Right.
Joe Getty
For all of human history, and anytime anybody says that, you really ought to think about it. For all of human history, virtually all romantic connection was proximity based. What we're trying to do is, okay, we never brush up against real human beings anymore. We're all on our screens. So let's, let's figure out. Let's try to figure out what attracted people to each other without like the circumstance where it always took place that you rubbed, you brushed up against them, you were in the same room with them, you saw them across the room, blah, blah, blah, or he asked you if you knew where the number three bus ran or whatever. Let's remove all proximity and actual contact and try to figure out how people get. And I think we've done a poor job of it.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I actually like any of those things. Whatever that's called. That speed dating thing where everybody gets together in a room and you sit down for two minutes and talk to each other. That seems like a way better idea than that. Whatever that magic is, whether it's pheromones or something in the brain we don't understand or whatever, where you show interest in a person based on something other than just looks, that makes more sense to me.
Joe Getty
I think you're right. I remember when the speed dating thing first came out, it seemed like, well, why are you in such a hurry? Seemed kind of silly. But, yeah, I think compared to the online thing is probably a way, way better idea.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, I suppose we'll have to figure this out since we don't interact with the people anymore and it's getting less so and less so. Oh, there was a piece in the New York Times the other day, it's okay to date your coworkers. There was a thing somebody wrote, a guest in the New York Times about how, let's be realistic, this is where, like everybody meets. It's your best opportunity to meet somebody. It's crazy that we've decided that's a no go zone since it's the only place you're going to meet anybody, which I've always thought was true.
Joe Getty
That's funny. That's what we've been saying before, during and after the whole me too madness. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. This is the best weekend talk show in America.
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Jack Armstrong
He was a fantastic person. He was a man who you're going to watch. It's going to be a very big thing with him.
Joe Getty
He's going to be appreciated more now
Jack Armstrong
than he was when he was living. I think Donald Trump called into a whole bunch of different news shows yesterday when his friend Lindsey Graham died over the weekend. And he got the news and telling everybody about it.
Joe Getty
Yeah, as we were discussing earlier, the narrative from Stupid People for Stupid People, that Lindsey Graham, who originally opposed Trump, later kowtowed to him and became a sycophant. And. And he's a hypocrite. Again, stupid analysis for stupid people. How about this? Lindsey Graham thought his goals for America and what he thought was best were so sacred to him that he would work with whoever he needed to to make them happen because he lived for those goals. He was a highly principled guy. The last thing he was was unprincipled. He's practical.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, he ran against Trump originally, if you don't remember, because he thought Trump. He didn't like Trump's foreign policy at all. And he was really worried about Trump getting the nomination and where that would take the country because Trump was running against all these wars. Like Lindsey Graham was more of a hawk than me on wanting, for instance, Iraq and Afghanistan to go on forever, it seems. But I agreed with him on being a hawk about Iran and Ukraine. But he was worried that everything could get out of hand. And like you said, so when he realized, okay, I guess the country's going Trump's direction, or at least the Republican Party is, I need to still be a voice for the things that I want.
Joe Getty
So I got to figure out a
Jack Armstrong
way to do that.
Joe Getty
And I actually saw this phrase used in one tribute to him. My mom's family was from South Carolina, and I was a small child when my grandmother first said to me, or it could have been my mom quoting my grandmother, that you, you draw more flies with honey than vinegar. And of course, that's not about drawing flies why do you want to draw flies? Who wants flies around them? I've always wondered.
Jack Armstrong
More flies in the kitchen?
Joe Getty
There are a few flies, but not enough. Exactly. It's an odd expression, yet it has endured. So let's. Let's use it. And Lindsey Grah of the great state of South Carolina believe that. Look, if you want to get stuff done, you don't do it being an ass. You do it by reaching out to people and seeing how you can work with them. So, again, that whole he was a hypocrite narrative from evil, stupid people, forget it. It's dumb.
Jack Armstrong
Anyway, I was happy to see, with the respect that he was shown by all your mainstream media over the weekend, they. They presented him in a very good light on your Face is the Nation, your Meets The Press, your ABCs this week, which I was happy to see that we still do that.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. And Lindsey in particular was a real fan of working across the aisle, even during these days. He and Senator Blumenthal, about whom I have said very harsh things, and he deserves them. They're working together on a new Russian sanctions bill that actually had teeth. They've been trying to get Trump to support it for ages, and it was finally looking like it might work. And it still might work. But, yeah, he was working across the aisle till his last day.
Jack Armstrong
I've got a good, controversial, hot take from Mark Halperin on the role of Lindsey Graham's death in the war in Ukraine. Counterintuitive. Stay tuned.
Joe Getty
I do enjoy a good counterintuitive. So we have some of Lindsay's greatest hits assembled for you. He was very, very funny, very eloquent, sincere. You know, let's. Let's start with something quick and jazzy. Michael65.
Caller or Guest
Mr. Zuckerberg, you and the companies before us, I know you don't mean it to be so, but you have blood on your hands. You have a product. You have a product that's killing people.
Joe Getty
Yeah, that was good. I tell you what, why don't we just do. We should start the show with a showstopper. Jack Free. It's his stairway to heaven. It's his greatest hits. His hit, greatest hit, Lindsey Graham during the Judge Kavanaugh hearings, just to reset it in case your memories are fuzzy. At the last moment, the Democrats brought forth this Blasey Ford woman who claimed that in high school, many decades ago, that Judge Kavanaugh was part of a group of boys who molested her on one level or another at a high school party where people had been drinking and her memories were incredibly vague and a lot of the facts didn't fit.
Jack Armstrong
It was the opposite of the woman that came forward against Platner last week, where there was zero contemporary at the time, corroborated evidence. Her friends were like, I never heard that.
Joe Getty
Right, Right. There was just nothing to corroborate it. And notably, because Lindsey makes reference to this, the Democrats didn't say, hey, this needs to be fully investigated. They just brought it up at the last minute to assassinate his character. Judge Kavanaugh, you may recall, and I would love to hear this again. He finally had had enough and abandoned his. I'm going to sit here quietly with a smile on my face in a dignified way and take this, because this is horrific. It made the Borking of Judge Bork look tame. He blasted him. He said it was disgusting and it was wrong and the rest of it. And then the narrative became, Kavanaugh is, he's hot headed. He doesn't have the temperament to be on the court. Well, they came back from a break, and Lindsey Graham had had enough. 60.
Caller or Guest
Michael, did you know that her staff had already recommended a lawyer to Dr. Ford?
Jack Armstrong
I did not know that.
Caller or Guest
Did you know that her and her staff had this allegations for over 20 days?
Jack Armstrong
I did not know that at the time.
Caller or Guest
If you wanted an FBI investigation, you could have come to us. What you want to do is destroy this guy's life, hold this seat open and hope you win in 2020. You said that, not me. You've got nothing to apologize for. When you see Sotomayor and Kagan, tell them that Lindsey said hello because I voted for them. I would never do to them what you've done to this guy. This is the most unethical sham since I've been in politics. And if you really wanted to know the truth, you sure as hell wouldn't have done what you've done to this guy. Are you a gang rapist? No. I cannot imagine what you and your family have gone through. Boy, y' all want power. God, I hope you never get it. I hope the American people can see through this sham that you knew about it and you held it. You had no intention of protecting Dr. Ford. None. She's as much of a victim as you are. God, I hate to say it, because these have been my friends, but let me tell you, when it comes to this, you're looking for a fair process. You came to the wrong town at the wrong time, my friend.
Jack Armstrong
And a lot of the Sunday shows credited that speech from Lindsey Graham for rescuing saving Kavanaugh's nomination.
Joe Getty
Yeah, possibly. There's a lot of grandstanding in the halls of Congress and the Senate these days. It's fairly rare that you hear somebody who is obviously completely sincere. That was great. That was so ugly.
Jack Armstrong
He never, he never wavered on his whole hawkishness in terms of thinking the United States needed to, you know, stand up to bullies around the world. That was, man, that was a through line for him always. Even when it was very unpopular.
Joe Getty
I think that probably is partly because of his life story that he was very much not the upper crust of society. In fact, he's still in the. His net worth when he passed was like $1.5 million.
Jack Armstrong
They had him. I got the article in front of me. The poorest member of Congress in terms of net worth.
Joe Getty
I don't think that's right.
Jack Armstrong
Okay, well, this article is wrong then.
Joe Getty
Yeah, yeah. Anyway, we can look into that. But he definitely is in the bottom half of everybody in the Congress. But he, you know, he's the son of a. Not very well to do liquor store owner and his parents passed away when he was a teenager and he adopted his sister and raised her and took care of her. He's never displayed much interest in getting rich. He just cares about American foreign policy and the judiciary and stuff like that. He's also very, very funny. And the context of the next clip 61. He's talking to the Republican Jewish Coalition about the. The rise of anti Semitism and This was a while back, but note the tone.
Caller or Guest
But I just want to make it really clear. I'm in the Hitler sucks wing of the Republican Party. What is this Hitler? I don't know. Anyway, here's what I do know. You can sit in a basement with weird people and say weird things. It's a free country. Right? But if you ever run for office as a Republican and you embrace this weird sh. T, we're gonna beat your brains out.
Jack Armstrong
Reading from this transcript with Al Franken, a former senator from Minnesota who was a member of Saturday Night Live wrote for Saturday Night Live reporter said, would your colleagues in the Senate tell you jokes? Al Franken said, yes. Is that annoying? Is really annoying for a couple of them. Is there anyone who's actually funny?
Joe Getty
Yeah.
Jack Armstrong
The funniest senator is Lindsey Graham. Really disappointing, isn't it? Al Franken said, that's surprising. He's very funny. Al Franken said, what's an example? I thought this was actually pretty good. When he was running for President in 2016, I was next to him in the Senator's men's room and said, if I was a Republican, I'd vote for you. And without hesitation, Lindsey Graham said that's my problem. Which is true.
Joe Getty
Wow. Wow. Yeah. I'm anxious to hear. Well, do you have more of the, the Lindsay stuff you'd like to hear or. I mean, here's an example of his hawkishness in 62 for sure.
Caller or Guest
Here's what I tell President Trump. Keep it up for a few more weeks. Take Carg island, where all of the resources they have to produce oil, oil control that island, let this regime down a vine.
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The result could be a grinding war of attrition. They talk about how far away they
Caller or Guest
would be from sort of tired of all this armchair quarterback. And this has been amazing military operation, God Bless the fallen.
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But it's a difference on the ground.
Caller or Guest
I trust the Marines, not that guy. I trust dod. We got two Marine Expeditionary units sailing to this island. We did Iwo Jima. We can do this.
Jack Armstrong
And that might be what we're going to do, which we'll talk about a little bit later. I really think it's an interesting conversation and it's not everybody's personality that could do this around, switching gears, befriending enemies or whatever. Because you want to stay in office to accomplish the things you want to accomplish versus people who do that, who just want to stay in office because they like being in office. Because there's plenty of that.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I think maybe it's as simple as you look at somebody and say, are they clearly purpose driven?
Jack Armstrong
Well, for instance, I kept hearing over the weekend, Lindsey Graham found a way to always be relevant, no matter, you know, where the party went. So he came in in the big wave in 94 with a whole bunch of rebels that were all about throwing Newt Gingrich out of office and a new kind of Republican Party and fighting the establishment. Next thing you know, his best friend is John McCain, who couldn't have been more of the establishment. And then we all know the Trump story. He ran against Trump, he ends up being Trump's closest friend, all that sort of stuff. But he all he, he stayed in relevant so that he could be a hawk on foreign policy all the way through, where as opposed to Joe Biden, who also always found a way to be relevant for all those years. But I have no idea what Joe Biden cared about. No idea.
Joe Getty
I don't think he cared about anything but holding onto power, enriching the Biden family. Yeah, he had so many 180 degree reverses, not on who he was working with or whatever, but on some fundamental
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Joe Getty
Mailbag Drop us a note mailbagarmstrongetty.com Mike writes Guys, your segment on Joe Biden's book was great. That was yesterday. We just did another one. Since I commute and catch your show on podcast form blah blah blah. I oh, I listen to a lot of audiobooks. I wondered if there will be an audible version of his book, preferably narrated by himself.
Jack Armstrong
Wow.
Joe Getty
Oh that'd be tough. And you'd have to rewind a lot of Afghanistan, right? Let's see. Just wanted to point out that Jack is not supposed to go see the Odyssey if he is pro ice since John Leguizamo is in it and he has stated he doesn't want pro ice people watching his movies.
Caller or Guest
What?
Joe Getty
You'll have to trade in your tickets for Minions and Monsters or maybe the End of Oak Street. Unless of course you really are anti ice, in which case carry on or
Jack Armstrong
I don't pay attention to any of
Joe Getty
these controversies from these movies. Yeah, an actor. Can you imagine that saying I don't want anybody who's probably coming to any of my movies. People are like children. All right, moving along. Wayne in beautiful Tigard, Oregon Once again the idea of going to your year round daylight saving time is being pushed. One of you said, why don't we just try it for a while and see how we like it. Jack, you said stacks of dead bodies
Jack Armstrong
just like they have in Arizona every
Joe Getty
six months, he points out. We've tried it at least twice and it was hated by the vast majorities during World War II, not World War 11. AOC. The country went on Daylight Saving Time for four years. My parents lived through it and hated it. So did most of the country. So at the end of the war we went back to the old system. Then in the winter of 7374 there was an Arab oil embargo. I remember this. The government decided again we should go year round dst. I Was in college and hated it. So did everyone I knew. Had to go to morning classes in the dark, then come home in the dark. After the crisis, the country went back to the old system.
Caller or Guest
I was alive.
Jack Armstrong
But I have no memory of not changing the clocks there for a couple of years.
Joe Getty
Yeah, I thought that was. Was that a Carter idea? It would have been Jerry Ford at 73, 74 I guess. But yeah, that that happened even with the 70s though.
Jack Armstrong
Lifestyles are so much different now than they were 50 years ago. I say we tried it.
Joe Getty
True. True. And then finally Wayne points out Arizona and Hawaii actually stay on standard time all year. I have no idea. This. No doubt this dumb idea will become reality. Because like the old saying goes, those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Jack Armstrong
Now I'm all for trying it.
Joe Getty
Daylight saving time or standard time.
Jack Armstrong
I don't know which. I have no idea.
Joe Getty
All right. One of information.
Jack Armstrong
Changing the clocks.
Joe Getty
That's what I want. You. There you go. Let's see. How about this from Richard? When looking at the Iran conflict where America is clearly superior militarily, I am reminded of the War of Independence where England had a superior army. It lost to the guerrilla style warfare of the colonials. It was a bloody war. And so would a ground. So would a ground war in Iraq. Because they don't fight like we are used to. The citizenry believe promised who. Wow, there are words missing in this. They're promised rewards in the afterlife if they kill the enemy. And I have a feeling this is Voice Dictated. The Wall Street Journal and others with a couple articles lately that there's been a surge in patriotism and nationalism in Iran. Including people who used to be sympathetic to the resistance that happened to attack a country.
Jack Armstrong
It's what happened with the British in the soccer match yesterday. The Argentines kept jumping out from behind trees while the British team was marching in straight lines and they just went around them with the ball and scored goals.
Joe Getty
Boy, I should have paid more attention. Let's see. And then Jim sent along an article from a moderate Democrat saying the three things the Democrats really need to do to win elections. And this is my favorite part. The odds of this suggestion getting adopted are the same as Blue Doo Bluto Blutarski's grade point average at Faber College 0.0. It's far more likely that the author will receive death threats and be forced to public be to publicly apologize and disavow his article or face retribution from the DSA's Red Guards. You're right, sir. You're Right.
Jack Armstrong
That's from the great movie Animal House. Yes. His grade point average was 0.0. That's not good.
Joe Getty
Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son.
Jack Armstrong
That's. That's true. That's a true fact.
Joe Getty
A couple of messages for Jack from Julie. First, I hope Jack. I hope Joe brought Jack a nice souvenir moose hat or something, because that was an awfully long stretch for him to have to do the show on his own. Second, he thinks he's reached. Jack said you said you reached an age where people are no longer annoyed by his incompetence and are happy to help him figure things out.
Jack Armstrong
Yes, I did do a long segment on that because it's true. And I kept pointing out to my son, it's so funny. I now have problems with anything or can't find something and people are, oh my gosh, that poor old man is lost or can't figure this out and people gather around to help me. Oh my gosh, I've reached that age. Wow.
Joe Getty
But Julie suggests, I think it's more likely that people are generally just friendly and helpful because he's only now experiencing this, not because he's over 60, but because he finally worked to ditch his resting murder.
Jack Armstrong
That's true. I do have a different face now.
Joe Getty
It could be both.
Jack Armstrong
It could be both. Could be. It could be the new face. No doubt about it, the new face has helped. I purposefully changed my face. You can do it.
Joe Getty
Wow. Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.
Jack Armstrong
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Date: July 18, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts
On this episode, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty deliver their signature energetic, irreverent take on the week’s news and cultural oddities. From the weird Vegas wedding economy, to American resistance to change, to the intricacies of how we elect senators, the hosts mix in personal stories with sharp political and societal commentary—anchored by a tribute to the recently deceased Senator Lindsey Graham. Expect quick wit, honest takes, discussions about evolving American traditions, and the usual blend of humor and substance.
Timestamps: 01:45 – 03:27
Timestamps: 03:34 – 07:00, continued at 36:13 – 37:58
Timestamps: 07:15 – 14:46
Timestamps: 16:38 – 20:58
Timestamps: 21:42 – 34:43
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Timestamps: 35:22 – 40:43
"Why do I? I wish I were a congressperson so I could have suggested an amendment, a sunset clause..." – Jack Armstrong (03:39)
“Anybody who would design the federal tax code as it is right now should be permanently held in a mental institution. Okay? Our tax system is completely insane and bizarre. It's Kafkaesque.” – Joe Getty (05:03)
“[The framers wanted] a Senate removed from immediate popular passion… to provide a defense to the people against their own temporary errors and delusions.” – Joe Getty (10:25)
“Because of our whole nationalized politics, you've got this crowd that... to do anything about the crime or homelessness would make you a Trump person... That’s the way we run everything now, right?” – Jack Armstrong (14:00)
“Why we become friends and enter into personal relationships doesn’t seem to have anything to do with [shared interests]... That's usually not why you're close.” – Jack Armstrong (17:28) “For all of human history, virtually all romantic connection was proximity-based.” – Joe Getty (19:05)
“He was a man who you’re going to watch—he’s going to be a very big thing with him... going to be appreciated more now than he was when he was living.” – Jack Armstrong (21:42) “The last thing he was was unprincipled. He’s practical.” – Joe Getty (22:46)
“This is the most unethical sham since I’ve been in politics... Boy, y’ all want power. God, I hope you never get it. I hope the American people can see through this sham...” – Lindsey Graham [clip] (27:46)
“It’s so funny. I now have problems with anything or can’t find something and people are, ‘Oh my gosh, that poor old man is lost…’” – Jack Armstrong (40:02)
Armstrong & Getty blend earnest curiosity with sarcasm, humor, and at times, poignant sincerity. Their exchanges are fast-paced but accessible, with Jack playing the role of incredulous everyman and Joe offering historical or philosophical context. The mood swings from deeply critical (of institutions, politicians, pop culture) to self-deprecating and playful, especially in their riffing on personal anecdotes and pop psychology.
This episode exemplifies Armstrong & Getty’s status as “the best weekend talk show in America”—wide-ranging, revealing, suitably irreverent, and full of pointed, memorable moments. Content includes pop Americana, political mechanics, societal quirks, heartfelt tributes, and a dose of mailbag levity.
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