The Smithsonian Overhaul

Summary

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Episode: The Smithsonian Overhaul
Date: July 16, 2026
Host: iHeartPodcasts

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Episode Overview

This episode centers on a critical discussion about the ideological direction of the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History, particularly in light of a recent White House Domestic Policy Council report, "Saving America's Story: How Ideological Capture at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History Erases Our Heritage." Jack and Michael express deep concern over what they perceive as a shift from traditional historical presentation towards a politicized, negative framing of American history. The hosts reflect on their personal experiences at the museum, analyze the report’s findings, and voice broader anxieties about the cultural implications of these changes.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Personal Frustration with Current Museum Experience

[01:37–03:33]

• Jack expresses irritation with museum plaques that, in his view, consistently highlight political issues such as climate change, colonialism, and racism.
  • Quote: "Every freaking plaque about everything either brought up climate change or how Europeans drove off the original people or whatever. It had some political bent." – Jack [03:33]
• Michael laments the prevalence of subscription services but pivots to how this frustration relates to the museum topic, setting the stage for the episode’s main discussion.

2. Historical Purpose of the Smithsonian

[04:49–08:25]

• Michael reads from early mission statements and speeches (1950s–60s) from Smithsonian leaders and U.S. Presidents, emphasizing the original goal to inspire patriotism and faith in America’s destiny.
  • Quote: "The museum we envision is planned to instill in each citizen a deepened faith in our country’s destiny as champion of individual dignity and enterprise." – Citing Secretary Carmichael [05:44]
  • Quote: "The more we understand the meaning of the past, the more we appreciate the winning of the future, which is the flip side of the coin that Orwell was always warning us about. They steal your history so you don't know who you are anymore." – Michael [07:31]

3. The Shift to Activism and Critique

[09:01–12:17]

• Michael and Jack discuss details from the White House report, which claims the museum now presents American history through a dispiriting, divisive, and overtly political lens.
  • Quote: "The museum leadership has explicitly adopted an ideological framework that no longer treats the American story as a shared national inheritance... but as a political instrument to divide, dispirit, and discourage our citizens." – Michael, summarizing the report [09:23]
• They reference Anthea Hartig, museum director since 2019, and her statements about “reframing the traditional celebratory narrative of US History” and using history as a “prime tool of social justice.”
  • Quote: "She hopes to reframe... the traditional celebratory narrative of US History for visitors." – Michael [10:38]
  • Quote: "She believes the museum profession has to... figure out how we’re going to problematize the 250th anniversary of the signing of the declaration in 2026, that loving America is very complicated." – Michael [11:22]

4. The Debate: Telling the Full Story vs. Focusing on Failures

[12:17–15:54]

• Jack wonders why a national museum leader would feel comfortable openly expressing a goal to dampen celebratory perspectives on America.
  • Quote: "She doesn't feel that she needs to couch it in gentler language or hide this at all. She's willing to just... say out loud... we need to take the 250th birthday of this country and make sure people aren't feeling too good about it." – Jack [11:57]
• The hosts argue for a balanced approach: acknowledging America’s flaws, but not forgetting its achievements. They fear the focus has become overwhelmingly negative.
  • Quote: "If your goal is to dissolve the marriage and tear down and destroy it, yeah, you’d only talk about the bad stuff." – Jack (wedding analogy) [14:16]
  • Michael distinguishes the "Marxist" framing: "These Marxists view the United States as an evil country that's occasionally accidentally done good as opposed to what is clearly true. That's the opposite. And so it's a question of how you present it." [15:01]
• Jack offers a personal example illustrating how education often showcases only negative aspects of systems like capitalism or historical figures.

5. Report’s Vision for Historical Narrative

[12:17, 15:54–17:45]

• Michael reads the report’s view that museums should truthfully present both achievements and failures within a context of striving toward founding principles.
  • Quote: "It should document and share the achievements and failures of the nation... but... within a coherent account of a people striving... to live up to our founding principles of liberty and equality." – Michael [13:08]
• The report criticizes the museum’s current direction, stating it now minimizes founders and patriotic narratives, and frames America primarily through the lens of oppression and shame.
  • Quote: "...the museum purposely presents America as a problematic country, irredeemably conceived, founded by deeply flawed men and still operating today as an instrument of systemic racism and oppression." – Michael [16:47]

6. Challenges in Reversing the Trend

[17:45–20:08]

• Jack is skeptical about the prospects of reversing the museum’s current direction, noting inertia and political resistance.
  • Quote: "If it doesn't get done in the next two years... a Democratic president's not going to do it. And I'm not even sure a lot of Republican presidents will think that's a fight they want to get into." – Jack [17:45]
• The hosts draw parallels to controversies in schools and libraries, describing a pattern where attempts to revert to more traditional narratives are framed negatively by media.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The more we understand the meaning of the past, the more we appreciate the winning of the future, which is the flip side of the coin that Orwell was always warning us about. They steal your history so you don't know who you are anymore.”
  – Michael [07:31]

• “The museum leadership has explicitly adopted an ideological framework that no longer treats the American story as a shared national inheritance to be taught or celebrated, but as a political instrument to divide, dispirit, and discourage our citizens.”
  – Michael, reading from the report [09:23]

• "She believes the museum profession has to... figure out how we’re going to problematize the 250th anniversary of the signing of the declaration in 2026, that loving America is very complicated."
  – Michael [11:22]

• "If your goal is to dissolve the marriage and tear down and destroy it, yeah, you’d only talk about the bad stuff."
  – Jack, marriage analogy [14:16]

• "These Marxists view the United States as an evil country that's occasionally accidentally done good as opposed to what is clearly true. That's the opposite. And so it's a question of how you present it."
  – Michael [15:01]

• "To the extent that there is a story told at the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History, it is not one of... the victory of freedom and genius of our country, but one of regret, tragedy and shame."
  – Michael, quoting report [17:34]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:37 – Introductions & Museum Frustration
  Discussion of membership, subscription services, and Jack’s experiences at the museum.

• 04:49 – Reading from Historical Mission Statements
  Michael shares the original intent of the Smithsonian as expressed by past leaders.

• 09:01 – The White House Report’s Critique
  Summary of the report’s findings about the museum’s ideological shift.

• 10:38 – Direct Quotes from Smithsonian Leadership
  Michael and Jack react to statements made by Anthea Hartig about problematizing American history.

• 12:17 – The Debate over How History Is Taught
  Hosts reflect on the need for balance in history education, using personal stories and analogies.

• 16:00 – MLK Analogy & Report’s Concerns
  Parallel drawn between focusing on negatives in figures/systems and how the museum now frames history.

• 17:45 – Political & Institutional Inertia
  Prospects for change, media portrayals, and frustrations with pushback.

• 20:08 – Closing Thoughts
  Michael expresses intense frustration at letting things reach this point and the misuse of moral language.

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Tone and Final Impressions

The tone is passionate, at times exasperated, and mixes humor (banter about yachts and pants) with earnest critique. The hosts are deeply troubled by what they see as the politicization of national history and the implications for national unity and identity. Their perspective is clear: history should be presented honestly but with a focus on achievements and shared values, not as an endless narrative of national shame.

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For listeners interested in debates over historical representation, museum culture, and political influence on public institutions, this episode offers a thorough perspective—albeit with a distinct, critical slant.

Transcript

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[Michael]

Here at the Metropolitan Museum of Art, we effing hate art. It's one more thing. Armstrong and Getty One more thing. I'm a member of the Met in New York.

[Jack]

Yeah, I bought a membership because it saved us, ultimately saved me money for getting me and my two kids in. Oh yeah, and then the membership expires after a year. I guess they hope you won't remember and you'll automatically renew, which I probably will.

[Michael]

Oh my God.

[Jack]

Because I go to New York, you know, once every 10 years, right?

[Michael]

I the fact that software is now mostly subscription based makes me nuts. I get why it's a good idea in some ways, but I was signing up for one that I want and it's good and I think I'll use it, but it's like 13 bucks a month now and I had the feeling as I clicked yes and gave it my credit card info. My estate is going to have to stop payments to this 10 years after my death, like my Audible books.

[Jack]

And every year I lose free Audible credits because I don't before the deadline. And I think it does that on purpose.

[Michael]

Like, who does. Who designed that system? The Marquis de Sade? I now have so many credits on audible that I can't let them go. Right. But I don't use them. I can't possibly use them fast enough to other. Too many other things I need to listen to or like to listen to, including music. Anyway, so my introduction about hating art at the art museum brings us to the. The Domestic Policy Council report from the White House. Saving America's Story. How Ideological Capture at the Smithsonian Institution's National Museum of American History Erases Our Heritage. And I complained about this last summer

[Jack]

when I was there with my kids, and I complained as soon as I got back about every freaking plaque about everything either brought up climate change or how Europeans drove off the original people or whatever. It had some political bent.

[Michael]

Racism. Right.

[Jack]

Every single plaque. It was so annoying.

[Michael]

Well observed. And it just, you know, for. Some of you think I'll just speak for myself that I joke. Eddie, I'm a tad critical of Donald J. Some of this stuff he does and says is just dumb on its face, and I don't like it. And I'll tell you so. But a lot of what makes me insane about him is his administration is doing such good things, and if they would stop stepping on their schwances, they could keep doing those good things.

[Jack]

And congratulations.

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Michael]

Hello. So here's the executive summary from this report on the ideological capture at the Smithsonian, specifically the National Museum of American History. And it's a little lengthy, but it's definitely worth hearing. Super informative. Get to it, Joe. You're saying get to it. Here I go. I'm about to start right now.

[Jack]

Joe Getty, who delayed his presentation because of climate change.

[Michael]

That's right. That's right. I'm sweaty. The Smithsonian Institution is one of the nation's great civic treasures, a place where parents bring their children and tourists from across the country and around the world come to learn about America. At the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History. Visitors, we're just going to refer to it as the Museum henceforth. Save my voice. Visitors young and old should encounter the story of the United States, told with honesty, seriousness, and pride. In particular, it should help the American people understand where America came from, what makes it distinctive, and why it is worth preserving. Now, before I go further, I want you to put into your pocket what you always hear about, say, Florida's reforms of their history programs or whatever they're trying to whitewash slavery. Just keep that argument in mind as I read what the Trump administration says. In making their case to Congress in 1953 for funding, Smithsonian leadership argued that one of the main reasons the museum should be created is to place before millions who visit the nation's capital each year a stimulating permanent exposition that commemorates our heritage of freedom and highlights the basic elements of our way of life. In 1955, then Smithsonian Secretary Leon Carmichael testified to Congress that if authorized, the museum would tell the story of American national progress and I quote, cement America's progress for citizen and foreign visitors alike. As he put it, continuing to quote, the museum we envision is planned to instill in each citizen a deepened faith in our country's destiny as champion of individual dignity and enterprise. Equally, it is conceived to instill in each foreign minister. I'm sorry, foreign visitor Admiration and respect for our ever expanding social and technological horizons. Two months later, Congress funded it.

[Jack]

Well, having been there a year ago, I can tell you currently, if you read the plaques, it seems that it's designed to convince you humans are bad, males are even worse. As far as the humans, and America in particular as a collection of humans is awful, right?

[Michael]

So The Then in 1964, the director of the U.S. national Museum noted at the museum's opening that the new museum was intended, quote, to awaken in citizen and foreigner alike a clear understanding of the inspiring story of the United States, its origins, struggles, development, traditions and strength. One curator who worked at the museum for nearly four decades noted the museum's founding goal was more than simply to increase and diffuse general knowledge. The museum was intended to be, quote, proudly patriotic. And in fact, at the dedication ceremony in 1964, President Johnson explained his hope and belief that the museum's, quote, iconic artifacts should be used to foster patriotism. He stated, I would hope that there will come to this building the children of the nation. For here is recorded, as William Faulkner expressed it, the agony and the sweat of the human spirit, the victory of freedom and genius of our country. Here, young children see with their own eyes, yes, even to touch with their own hands the ripe fru of America's historical harvest. Whitney's cotton gin, Singer sewing machine. He goes to give a bunch of different examples. They're all here a part of this treasure house of our inheritance. The more we understand the meaning of the past, the more we appreciate the winning of the future, which is the flip side of the coin that Orwell was always warning us about. They steal your history so you don't know who you are anymore. Then they can make you Whoever they want you to be anyway, go ahead

[Jack]

and say that stuff Johnson said, and be a Democratic president now.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah. Johnson said, if this museum did nothing more than illuminate our heritage so that others could see a little better, our legacy, however, so small the glimpse, it will fulfill the noble purpose. And this report by the Domestic Policy Council, they write, demonstrates the fact that

[Jack]

if I could get a new pair of pants with a zipper that goes

[Michael]

clear down in my bunghole, I'd appreciate exactly, you know, a little.

[Jack]

A little more room.

[Michael]

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[Jack]

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[Michael]

All right, so getting back to the report. The report demonstrates that the museum fails in the basic task of illuminating our heritage. Our central finding, to Jack's point, is not that the museum has simply added overlooked stories, corrected perceived errors, or broadened its historical scope. Rather, it is that the museum leadership has explicitly adopted an ideological framework that no longer treats the American story as a shared national inheritance to be taught or celebrated, but as a political instrument to divide, dispirit, and discourage our citizens.

[Jack]

Ah, that's. That's a. I like the dispirit and discourage. My son was really disappointed reading those he got.

[Michael]

He got.

[Jack]

He got dispirited and discouraged reading that stuff because who. Who gets an end? Well, unless, I guess you're a Marxist who hates the country, who gets any enjoyment out of reading about how we're so awful?

[Michael]

Plaque after plaque, as this report shows, confirmed in the words of museum leadership, this ideological capture has moved the museum's mission away from straightforward historical education and scholarship toward an extreme political activism that seeks to transform our country. That is 100% true. That shift from history to activism is clearly documented in this report. Anthea Hartig, the Museum's director since 2019, has explicitly stated that she sees history as a, quote, prime tool of social justice, and one of her roles is connecting, quote, research and scholarship to activism and advocacy. Harding has also stated that, quote, we work to reframe the traditional celebratory narrative of US History for visitors. She claims to have had a personal head start.

[Jack]

Say that one again.

[Michael]

She hopes to reframe what the traditional celebratory narrative of US History for visitors want that.

[Jack]

What country would want to have a celebratory tone to their history? Wow.

[Michael]

Right? Then she goes on about the cushions of whiteness and the pillows of the bourgeoisie.

[Jack]

Oh, you gotta be kidding. This is the director.

[Ryan Reynolds]

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[Michael]

She believes this is straight out of critical theory. By the way, what I'm about to say straight out of, you know, that rogues gallery of Frenchmen who developed critical theory in the 60s, Hartzig believes, and Jacques Cousteau and the rest of them. Hartig believes the museum profession has to, quote, figure out how we're going to problematize the 250th anniversary of the signing of the declaration in 202026 that loving America is very complicated.

[Jack]

You made these quotes up.

[Michael]

I did not, sir.

[Jack]

How in the hell did she get appointed the director?

[Tony Ayo]

That.

[Jack]

Who did that? Biden?

[Michael]

Obama?

[Jack]

How did she end up running the Smithsonian?

[Michael]

That is 2019. So Obama.

[Jack]

That is horrifying.

[Michael]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jack]

Oh, my God.

[Michael]

How many times did I shout during the campaign? He's not a Muslim, he's a socialist.

[Jack]

God.

[Michael]

Pay attention.

[Jack]

You know, you know what disturbs me about this is that she doesn't feel that she needs to couch it in gentler language or hide this at all. She's willing to just stay out, say, state out loud. We need to take the 250th birthday of this country and make sure people aren't feeling too good about it.

[Tony Ayo]

Right?

[Ryan Reynolds]

Yeah.

[Michael]

That's our objective. A little more of her own words. The objects in the museum's collection should be used to move attention away from an Anglo centric focus on the American founding, because to achieve Marxism. Anyway. At the heart of our concern, writes the report, is a simple question. What should a national museum of American history do? Now I'm gonna that that argument. They want to whitewash history, pretend like slavery never existed. Here's the actual report. Our conviction, like that of Secretary Carmichael, Director Kellogg and President Johnson, is that such a museum should tell the American story clearly and fairly. It should explain the rise of the original 13 colonies, the struggle for independence, the principles of the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution, and the role these documents have played in securing Americans most basic freedoms. It should document and share the achievements and failures of the nation and the extraordinary men and women of every color and creed who shaped its course. It should tell the truth, including the nation's mistakes and injustices. But it should do so within a coherent account of a people striving, often imperfectly, but more often nobly, to live up to our founding principles of liberty and equality under a republican form of government. It should especially teach the history of an American nation that is worthy of our affection and worth passing along to future generations.

[Jack]

Yeah, I've moved a lot on the whole. We need to put, you know, describe our faults. You don't want to erase that stuff, obviously. But there's no need to lean on them constantly.

[Michael]

Right.

[Jack]

You know, I always use the example of the mayor. Your 50th wedding anniversary, you're gonna stand up there and just rehash the three worst things your husband said or did over the last 50 years, just constantly. Why? What is your goal here? Is your goal to dissolve the marriage and te down and destroy it?

[Michael]

Or in the case of that museum gal, the answer is yes.

[Jack]

Well, right. The, the only reason you would, at your 50th wedding anniversary just hammer him over and over again about the three worst things he ever did would be if you want to end it, if you wanted to continue it and think it's a good thing.

[Tony Ayo]

No.

[Michael]

Right.

[Jack]

You might not even bring it up at all because you both know it exists.

[Michael]

Of course you would.

[Jack]

You both know it was bad and there's no need to discuss it again. So I'm not where I used to be on the. We need to make sure we teach the bad stuff. Why you don't, you don't have time to get around to the good stuff.

[Michael]

Well, I, I think it depends on the context. If you're talking about American history, you can touch on that stuff, but the,

[Jack]

the difference is different than focus on.

[Michael]

Well, right, exactly. The difference is that these, these Marxists view the United States as an evil country that's occasionally accidentally done good as opposed to what is clearly true. That's the opposite. And so it's a question of how you present it.

[Jack]

I'll give you the example. I don't remember if you were here when I told this story or not. The only thing my 14 year old learned in school about capitalism was that in the early 20th century we had lots of kids in the factories and they used children for labor. That's it. Only a negative thing about capitalism. Did that happen? Yes. Is that a negative? Yes. Should it be? I don't even know if it's worth mentioning if you. Well, it's not worth mentioning if you don't have time for the. Capitalism has raised more people out of poverty than any other system in the history of the world. If you get through all that and you got time left over, feel free to get into kids in the factories for a blink of an eye.

[Michael]

Right. I'm about to quote Martin Luther King Jr. It'd be like, tell me about MLK dad. He was adulterous.

[Jack]

He.

[Michael]

He had sex with a bunch of

[Jack]

different women, hung around with a lot of communists.

[Michael]

Right. Hey, there's learned a skill that's all you need those child laborers. That's right, toughen them up. So let me finish up the report. Any proper telling of American history should, as the Reverend King noted, that quote, the goal of America is freedom and bring our nation back to those great wells of democracy which were dug deep by the founding fathers in their formulation of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence. That is a direct quote from Martin Luther King Jr. According to the findings from our months long investigation, that is no longer what visitors encounter. Instead, the museum confronts visitors with materials intended to undermine faith in the American institutions and long standing shared ideals of the American people. As this report shows, the museum purposely presents America as a problematic country, irredeemably conceived, founded by deeply flawed men and still operating today as an instrument of systemic racism and oppression. In the museum's current telling, the country is above all defined by white supremacy, slavery, conquest, exclusion, hierarchy, racism, xenophobia, misogyny and systemic injustice. The report identifies a broad pattern. The founders are minimized, if not entirely excluded. Traditional patriotic narratives are treated with suspicion, if not outright contempt. And the basic symbols and stories that once helped unify Americans are presented not as reasons for gratitude and inspiration, but as objects to be inherently questioned, dismantled, problematized and reinterpreted to achieve ideological ends. To the extent that there is a story told at the Smithsonian's National Museum of American History, it is not one of, quote, the victory of freedom and genius of our country, but one of regret, tragedy and shame.

[Jack]

Yeah, I have a little hope that this is going to get turned around. I know they're working at it, but there's a lot of pushback. And then if it doesn't get done in the next two years, this all rooted out of this national parks and museums and everything like that, that a Democratic president's not going to do it. And I'm not even sure a lot of Republican presidents will think that's a fight they want to get into. And then you get news coverage like this, which is true on its face, but I think because it's got Trump's name in it suggests something. This was just the other day. NBC News current and former members of the Smithsonian Board of Regents tell NBC News they're anticipating this is not the end of the White House pressure campaign, which is a prejudicial term. Pressure campaign, sure. Pressure campaign to reshape the museum's presentations, which has been a focus in Trump's second term. Now, that is not a lie. That is true what they just said, but they're hinting, using Trump's name and pressure campaign that he's doing something untoward as opposed to something really, really untoward already happened.

[Michael]

Right, right. Sickening, horrifying, indefensible. And we let it happen. And it's just like everybody cherished freedom in America.

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[Jack]

And it's being treated like all the other examples of this we point out. They get porn in the library. Then when you try to get porn out, they call you the book banner.

[Michael]

Right, Right. Hey, for what it's worth, just for fun, what it would take to print this, there it is. It's 162 pages, this report. I'm sure it's thorough and documents everything beautifully, but. Well, the executive summary is. Is good enough.

[Jack]

I can't believe that's how, that's how far down the road it is that she feels she can be that blatant about. No, the goal of the museum is to make people realize this is a bad country.

[Tony Ayo]

Wow.

[Michael]

In fact, she believes that's the goal of all museums.

[Jack]

That is wild. And so then there's. There's Marxists who want to tear down the country. But then there's all the people that enjoy that feeling for some reason. And that's the people, I think, that are mentally feel there's some mental illness you've got that wants to feel bad about your country and people and culture.

[Michael]

It's pathetic. That's what I. I think those people are an embarrassment. They. They wear their self hatred as a desperate plea for somebody to like them or think they're enlightened.

[Jack]

It's just.

[Michael]

It's pathetic.

[Jack]

Yeah. I'm telling you, it's not subtle. If you walk around the museum about the fourth plaque you read, you think, all right, I see what's going on here.

[Michael]

You know, there. There are days I wish we had an enormous audience and not for financial wealth.

[Jack]

Yeah, I know.

[Michael]

I'd have a yacht.

[Jack]

How about you, Michael?

[Michael]

Yacht, maybe. A yacht, maybe. Maybe. Well, have a yacht for those days. You want a yacht? Better car. Yeah, a better car. There you got millions and millions of dollars. You need to think bigger, Michael.

[Jack]

Anyway, he's had that donut on your right rear wheel for how long?

[Michael]

I mean, yeah, and duct tape. Come on. Duct tape and plastic sheeting and not a good luck. Get a window. Get a window.

[Jack]

The black plaque. Black plastic sheeting, duct taped over the window. That's when things are not going well.

[Michael]

If I could do something to draw Americans attention to this and how bad it's gotten, man, I would do about anything. I'm not going to set myself on fire on the steps of the Natural History. Not the Natural, the National History Museum. But man, it's just angers me and the fact that we let it go that far because these people use moral language and mischaracterize what they're doing. And normal, good moral people think, yeah, we should definitely tell the history of slavery. We can't hide that from people. And the museum gal says thank you because that's all we want to do. And then she goes all 1619 Project on the freaking National History Museum. God, I hate these people. I hate them so bad.

[Jack]

Now that's hate speech.

[Michael]

That is hate speech.

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[Michael]

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