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Jack Armstrong
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Jack Armstrong
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Greg Gutfeld
Two former NBA players declared their eligibility for the WNBA draft because they say they identify as women. The commissioner said the league is having a meeting to review what a woman is. So far, they've disqualified anyone who could back out of the driveway without running into the mailbox.
Joe Getty
No, no. Not a good joke. Not funny. Not helping Greg do better, be better. We're actually going to have a clip of Greg being better in just a moment or two. I want to explain this to you, and I think this is going to become really, really clear when we talk to James Lindsay, terrific thinker, writer. Love him. In just about half an hour. The WNBA thing is incredibly important. It may be one of the pivotal moments in American history. And you think I'm nuts. Some of you think I'm nuts. Right now, the WNBA and its whole wrestling match with, yeah, women is right in our name. But we pretend that there's no such thing as a woman because we're woke and we're super crazy uncomfortable that these two NBA studs, former NBA studs, are now going to call us out on our cognitive dissonance. The ridiculousness of our view. What the hell does that matter? You think nobody watches the wnba. And if you do, great. I mean, if you enjoy it, enjoy it. I watch Golf on tv, for goodness sakes. It's not about that. The entire philosophical underpinning of that whole a man can become a woman and is a woman and men can give birth is something called critical theory. And it's everywhere. Everywhere. It doesn't call itself by that name. You think of it as woke, probably. But if we can call them publicly and everybody sees this because everybody's paying attention to this, or a lot of people are left, right and center, if we can call them on the utter insanity of critical theory, then the whole woke thing falls apart. And the whole critical theory woke thing, that's the underpinning of modern Marxism and modern third worldism and modern victim oppressor philosophy and disparate impact and Ibram X, Kendi and Robin Diangelo and Black Lives Matter and discriminating against Asian kids and white kids in schools and elevating people of whatever color who shouldn't be doctors to the operating room, all of that falls apart. If we can call them on this successfully. More on that to come. But for now, former Utah Jazz center Enos. Enos. Ennis Enos Cantor Freedom said he's officially begun his transition to transition to a WNBA player. Um, he announced the move with a video that has social media busing. This guy is ripped. I mean, ripped. He's got the 10 pack abs. He's just big, but athletic.
Jack Armstrong
Big.
Joe Getty
Um, do I sound a little gay right now? Probably a little bit. He's a handsome devil and he's super brave too. We don't have time to talk about that. He took a great stance when it was really inconvenient for him. And then you've got Royce White. Who's Michael? Do we have a Royce white clip? Oh, 14. Here's 14. Here's what he's saying. He's out and doing the media thing. Set to do an interview with CNN at 5:00pm Central. And around two, three o' clock, they messaged me and said, we're canceling the interview. We have other news. That's the universal excuse. We have other news. And I just for the life of me, again, they're not giving black women a voice. Sometimes identifying as trans black women a voice on cnn. It's, it's just blows my mind. It's disappointing. He's taking it seriously. He is a woman. And somebody tweeted at him, do it then. Actually do it. Commit to the bit. Take hormones, you know, get surgery, whatever. And Royce replied, don't tell me how to be a black woman. Taking hormones are optional. The Idea that a trans woman has to subject herself to Big Pharma is just another way for CIS normative people to turn us into a commodity. I'm an all natural black trans lesbian with a penile aesthetic. Royce White is brilliant. This is so good. He's running for the Senate in Minnesota too. I don't know what his chances are, but man, he is handling this just right. So this part is less key I think. But it's a good point that Greg Gutfeld makes about the war between Dijon Carrington who hatcheted Stacy Cunningham, who had said, look, I just don't think biological males should play in good sport girl sports. And of course there was a huge backlash against her. She's transphobe, she's a monster, et cetera, et cetera. Greg with a couple of thoughts on this controversial WNBA player.
Greg Gutfeld
Dijon A. Carrington clocked Sophie Cunningham so hard she got ejected. Then she posted White privilege the second she left the floor tagging Sophie's team on the post. But now Dijonay says that post was just one big misunderstanding. We just don't understand the phrase white privilege yet. She never bothers to explain it. But it made us wonder who has the privilege here, Dijonay or Sophie? Well, Dijonay grew up with a wealth wealthy NFL dad, went to a Christian academy, had a full ride to Stanford majoring in psychology and African American studies degrees that confer both academic prestige and woke fluency in the progressive frameworks she indulges. Meanwhile, Sophie grew up on a farm, helped with harvest road horses, drove trucks, went to a local public school, then the University of Missouri. I didn't even know they had it.
Joe Getty
Interesting stuff there. Interestingly, Ms. Carrington. Dijonay called her Dijon, which is a mustard Hanson. Fix the sheet. Anyway, and I apologize. She was a devoutly Christian, good student, lovely gal, and went off to Stanford. And every parent's nightmare came back a warrior for wokeness and critical theory. And that's what she is to this day. One more clip from Gutfeld.
Greg Gutfeld
So the lady with the pro athlete dad, the private school pipeline and the Stanford pedigree is lecturing the farm kid from Missouri about privilege. So once again, who's pushing this check your privilege nonsense? Rich kids who went to elite colleges majoring in studies.
Joe Getty
So he's absolutely right. I'm reminded of a great essay I saw in the Free Press by Evan Barker. It's Evan is a girl. Interesting. But you know, name your kid whatever you want. And she tells her story of being a Democratic activist and the title is the inside story of how Democrats lost the working class. And she grew up without money and terrible health problems, like life threatening health problems. And so the availability of healthcare for somebody with pre existing conditions is incredibly important to her. And her story is very, very compelling. And I think if you're a feeling human being, you agree that there's got to be a way to get medical care for somebody with pre existing conditions who can't get insurance. Obamacare was a terrible solution to the problem. It was utterly dishonest in its funding top to bottom. We've talked about that a lot, but I sympathize with this, this gal who seems to be quite bright and sincere and, and she was a big Obama fan, big Obamacare fan. When Trump got elected in 2016, she was terrified that Obamacare would be repealed and her, her terrible health problems would not be treated. And she lived with some trust fund roommates who loved Bernie Sanders. Their, their main goal in life was to become famous artists. I'd hang out on their sprawling rooftop alongside graffiti that read you go girl and F Trump, et cetera. And then she got a job in, in fundraising. She'd done some organizing fundraising stuff because healthcare is so important to her. And she got a job running for a woman. She just calls Karen, running for Congress in a hotly contested swing district. And she was hired, Evan was hired to help with the fundraising. Karen was a meow hat wearing housewife with a law degree from a fancy east coast. Her oldest daughter also worked in politics and had recently moved to D.C. to start her own nonprofit with a mission of getting women to blog about social justice issues. Okay, so that's sort of people we're talking about. And Evan immediately. She came from Kansas, went to the University of Kansas, and immediately sensed the winking mockery she would get because she was from Kansas. Not like affectionate, you know, the way friends kid each other. But she says later, I realized that a lot of the people who looked down on her found my background unappealing because they thought their children should have my job. That's how it works in Democratic politics. And she got really disenchanted with the campaign and the Democratic Party and didn't think they were actually fighting for real people like herself. They were just, you know, power and money hungry, blah, blah, blah. And so she left the Hillary Clinton wing of the party. And here's where she gets to the main point. And this is what Greg Gutfeld was talking about. So over the next five years, I built my name as a ruthless fundraiser who taught progressive politicians and organizations how to raise money. I was just an eyewitness to the left's takeover of the party. I was a live player who helped progressive insurgents infiltrate from within. Initially I worked at the names this oh, the pccc, a left wing political action committee that was part of the Elizabeth Warren world. Then she started at new progressive fundraising firm called Left Rising. It was a branch of Bernie World and Bernie was supported by activist ragtag progressives and young men, Whereas Warren appealed to college educated woman and more normie Democrats. So she worked really hard at this because she believed in it. Mostly again because of the healthcare thing. And then she watched Elizabeth Warren accuse Bernie during a live debate of saying terrible sexist things even though everybody knew it wasn't true. And she thought, wow, Elizabeth Warren is willing to do that to Bernie and like fake up concern for women as a wedge and thought, wow, that's really troubling. Then the summer of 2020 arrived and America all of a sudden was on fire. In the days after George Floyd was killed, my boss told us that if we wanted to protest and end up getting arrested, he'd pay our bill, our bail. And she went to a couple of protests. And she says, I began to notice an ambient tension in many of my interactions with big donors and organizations. There was a lot of talk about the concept of whiteness and what it means to have privilege. I knew people expected me to be aware of my privilege, but I did not speak like other white women who worked in the space. I was very direct in my interactions. That's my professional style. I also noticed that many non white staffers came from privileged backgrounds. One of them was a black woman I met in Manhattan in the District Attorney race. She grew up near Atherton, California, the wealthiest zip code in the US on zoom calls, I could see she lived in a penthouse in New York that overlooked the Manhattan skyline. She had another home in LA where she split her time. My mom back in Missouri had a much more marginalized existence than she ever did. I suppose that's why I didn't feel the same guilt as those around me. And then she helped get some squad members elected and says I was beginning to feel uneasy about the direction of the movement. After Biden won, the election consultant reached out to ask if we could help a health care organization she was advising to and we got top donors to attend a briefing. But we had to frame the pitch as a push to reach neglected minority communities, even though it was just health care and women were talking about the Latinx community. And at one point, a black donor said to a black coworker of hers, we can talk later in a black space, a safe space. In other words, when this young woman gets off the phone, she says, my face turned bright red. My presence made the zoom call feel unsafe. She goes into a great deal of detail of how it all became race based, grievance based, intersectionality based. And they totally lost the taste for this is a policy that's good for all people, particularly people who don't have a lot of money and power. So that's gonna be our theme going forward. Need to bring you a quick word from Simplisafe Home Security. Most security systems go off after your window's always broken, already broken, and the scumbag is already in your house. Oh, thanks. But what if the whole point was to stop the chain of events before it even started? That's the question Simplisafe answered and most other companies haven't. You see, unlike traditional security systems that alert you after the break in is underway, SimpliSafe is designed to help stop intruders before they get inside. Smart AI powered outdoor cameras detect suspicious activities at the perimeter and alert live US based agents to step in. 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Jack Armstrong
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It makes me so happy to print it and see the smiles and how happy the family is that really need the wheelchair.
Joe Getty
That is a 13 year old boy, Zach Waters from Utah who spent his summer 300 hours of it using his 3D printing skills to build a wheelchair for a 21 month old girl who needed one. He spent roughly 300 hours designing, printing, testing and assembling the chair. He also made sure it included features that could make a real difference for the toddler and her family. Wheelchair has pink accents because pink is the girl's favorite color, probably because of sexist indoctrination. It also includes a removable cup holder and tray table along with a space on the back where heavier medical equipment can be stored. And there are a bunch of other features to this. You know, I wanted to run this for a couple of reasons or talk about this. Number one, it's a wonderful story and heartwarming and it reminds us how many good people there are. But I heard some learned fellows discussing the other day a couple of poll results that have come out recently. One of which was that 2/3 of people roughly said their personal economic situation was was pretty good. But only half that number said the economy of the country is is doing pretty well, which is, you know, a bit of a head scratcher. But you could explain it I guess, you know, haves and have nots. But there was a another poll where almost 80% of people said my life's going pretty well living in America pretty damn well. But only 18% said in general life in America is pretty good. And I mean, come on, wait a minute. And we could spend hours or write books on how you end up with those results. But the thing I wanted to say, because we spend a fair amount of time on the show talking about problems and challenges and stuff we're fighting against, which I think is important and we need to do it. But we also need to remind ourselves more than occasionally, this is an incredible country. This is a wonderful country. This is truly, as Reagan said, the shining city on the hill. Yeah, we got problems and challenges and we screw up a lot. But so does that name the country that hasn't name the like 6 month period in any country's history since the dawn of man where they haven't had problems and screw ups and challenges. So don't forget that most people are thoroughly good and decent and patriotic and this is the land of opportunity. Got to fight like hell to keep it that way or it won't be. So it's not like la la whistle past the graveyard stuff, but don't forget the good stuff ever. One of our favorite thinkers around here is James Lindsay. You will know why after you hear us chat. He is coming up in moments. If you can't stay around, get the podcast Armstrong and Getty on demand.
Jack Armstrong
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I have a local city councilman that
Joe Getty
has this saying, woke one was crazy. Woke one was crazy. What a perfect lead into a conversation with James Lindsay, author, mathematician, woke culture critic, critical clown theorist. You probably heard of James at first in the famous and hilarious grievance studies affair with Peter Boghosian, Helen Pluckrose in their fabulous hoax papers having to do with the dog dog parks and rape culture and the conceptual penis as a social construct. He also, James also, along with Helen Pluckrose, co authored the book Cynical theories that I consider absolutely invaluable to read at least the first several chapters. You will read them and you'll say, oh my God, now I get it about the modern world. James joins us now. How are you, sir?
Jack Armstrong
Hey, I'm Grady, how are you?
Joe Getty
Good, good. The connection seems really weird. We'll see how it goes. But I was gonna say I know how busy you are, so thanks for spending a couple minutes to reinforce this front in. In the same war you've been fighting.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, absolutely. I'm always glad to help out here.
Joe Getty
All right, cool. So I'm gonna start the the chat non traditionally with a quiz and we'll see how you do on it. James Lindsay, what links the WNBA's current woes, the Smithsonian National History Museum becoming an anti American museum and people insisting that two plus two can equal five. What is the common thread?
Jack Armstrong
You guys probably call it woke, but the answer is modern Western Marxism,
Joe Getty
right? Based on in large part critical theory, which you talk about in cynical theories. Help people understand. Is woke not the most useful term or what is this thing shaped like?
Jack Armstrong
Well, I mean, woke is a great term because the way that this actually works is the people involved feel like they woke up to a different understanding of reality, that they were asleep, just accepting reality as it's handed to them. And then now They've seen behind the curtain. And what they see behind the curtain is systems of power that are dominated by privileged groups ruling everything. So woke is a great term. In fact, it's a term they gave themselves. It's not an academic. Academic term or a technical term. Critical theory, like you just said, is the technical term. And critical theory is this idea that the society is designed to reproduce itself over and over and over again. This goes back to the first essay written about the subject in 1937 by Max Horkheimer. He says the society just reproduces itself. It works to make everything better all the time. And he says, but we question what they mean by better, because something qualitatively different is necessary to have better. And by qualitatively different, he means no freedom. He means. Means no capitalism. He means socialism and central control.
Joe Getty
So I think a lot of people, perhaps those who don't listen to this show, think Marxism. Wait a minute. That's about workers of the world and the proletariat and that sort of thing. I don't understand.
Jack Armstrong
Right. So that's the magic word that I threw in when I said Marxism a moment ago, and I said Western Marxism. So in the 1910s, Marxism split into two schools. One took over the Soviet Union, or Russia became the Soviet Union. That same one went on into China. That's Eastern Marxism, which effectively went to peasant societies and overthrew them and installed dictatorships. Western society had a problem. It was capitalist. It was successful. There was a rising middle class, and the middle class was stable and conservative and didn't want to overthrow its culture or its economy or its politics. And Marxism wouldn't take off. But that's what Marx said would actually happen, is that capitalist societies, not peasant societies, would overthrow and become communist. So a new school of thought that attacks cultural institutions in order to transform the values of society outside of the workers, particularly arose. And that's called Western Marxism. The thing we call woke is a century of that developing to where it's become a very sophisticated cultural revolution weapon against countries like the United States.
Joe Getty
I've got so many avenues I want to pursue with you as a true Orwell freak. The part that really disturbs me about critical theory and about what you've been discussing is the way they aggressively twist language and terrify people into not saying anything at all.
Jack Armstrong
Yeah, there's kind of two elements to that. One is that they collect all the good words to themselves and project all the bad words onto their enemies. And what they've done is systematically spent most of the 20th century and beginning of the 21st century, figuring out words like racist and homophobic and transphobe that will paralyze their opposition and let them get away with literally almost anything. People are literally giving. Look at the. I know it's Britain, not America, but look at this. Pakistani rape gang scandal in Britain. Scandals, a funny word for over 250,000 girls. White girls being raped by Pakistani Muslims in systematic ways. And this whole thing gets shoved under the rug. It gets downplayed, it gets ignored, it gets covered up because nobody wanted to get called racist. That's what they have managed to do with the bad words. And then they call themselves good words that people don't understand. They twist like democratic socialist. Well, they don't tell you when they say democratic socialist that democratic means only the people who have the right ideology count as the people and therefore have free speech or political suffrage, get to vote or even at the end of the day end up, if they get power, having full access to private property. That there's two kinds of people, the privileged and the oppressed. And only the oppressed have political rights. They don't tell you that's baked into their definition of democracy. That that's the way that Vladimir Lenin, who they take as their inspiration, used the term, wrote about the term, explained the term in speeches. And the same thing with socialism, they try to portray it in these man on the street videos. Oh, it means we're going down to the bar and watching the game and hanging out because we're all having things in common. It's like socializing, and that's just a lie. Socialism, you cannot voluntarily do. Everybody has to participate. You can't just choose to be socialist in your lifestyle. The only way you can have a socialist lifestyle is if everybody has a socialist lifestyle. And that the state with its guns secures a socialist lifestyle for everybody.
Joe Getty
Right. One of the twists of language that a lot of folks noticed was the whole, that's not free speech, that's hate speech. And hate speech shouldn't be free speech. Speech is violence, but then acts of violence or speech. And you know, if there's an overarching point to this conversation, it's that a lot of people thought, wow, those people are just crazy academic and they don't realize there's a huge. There's a whole philosophical underpinning to what they're doing. They're not doing it accidentally because they're wacky. They have a deliberate purpose. To your point about the Britain rape gangs, which is, for what it's worth, Mr. Lindsay did not exaggerate one iota in the horror of that story. Need there be anything else said about the Red Green Alliance? How Islamists and Marxists work together to overthrow Western civilization, then fight it out afterward? Or do you think that covers the topic?
Jack Armstrong
I mean, yeah, there is actually. I think there's something very important. People ask all the time, like we have this movement here in the West, Queers for Palestine. People think that's funny because they all know that the radical jihadis will throw gay people off of roofs and openly now are saying, you know, we're not with you guys. Instill the queers for Palestine are behind them. This Red Green Alliance. Why are Muslims, radical Muslims and communists or democratic socialists working so closely together? Why is Hassan Piker so influential? Why do we see these radical Muslims rising in Michigan, this Al Said guy or whatever? Why is this happening? And the answer, actually the interesting thing is the answer from the Communist side is on the last page of the Communist Manifesto. Marx, on the last page of the Communist Manifesto says that the Communists always and everywhere will take the side of any revolutionary movement that's trying to overthrow the existing order of things. So the Communists will always ally themselves, Marxists will always ally themselves with anything that's socially disruptive. The other side is that the principle of common enemy works as the principle of common enemy for both sides. So the Muslims are more than happy to play the game, just like they played the game in Iran in the late 1970s to establish the Shia regime that has been in power ever since that President Trump is now trying to dismantle. So they're more than willing to make frenemies with each other. It's explicitly coded in the Communist Manifesto as a means of opportunism. And the radical Muslims see the same exact means of opportunism. And they've been working together closely for a long time to take down America, take down the West.
Joe Getty
Boy, in 1979 in Iran, how'd things go for those college educated, dewy eyed young Marxists who helped the Ayatollah come back?
Jack Armstrong
Maybe we should ask them. Oh wait, we can't. They killed all of them. Yeah, it didn't work out. That's right. And the only interesting question about the entire thing because the Islamists, the Shia, killed them all, all the leftists, all the Communists that helped, is whether or not the Soviet Union let it happen in kind of a conspiracy theory way because it would be more advantageous to their interest not to have another communist state arise and to let the mullahs run things to their own benefit without it being explic. Communists, that's the only question. But the communists, whether they were sacrificed by their own headquarters in Moscow, or whether they were just the end result of the mullahs taking over, are all dead or got kicked out if they were able to flee for their lives, but they were completely put down.
Joe Getty
We're talking to author James Lindsay, and James, I know your time is limited, so just one or two more quick questions. And again, this is through the lens of Orwell, but why is it it so important that these folks infiltrated the schools, number one, and are teaching American history in the way they're teaching it?
Jack Armstrong
Well, you know, it's very interesting because normally when you go to give an answer about communists, you stick to the communists. And you can talk about Lenin saying, you know, if he's given the youth for a few years, he'll plant the seed so deep you'll never uproot it. But the best answer actually comes from a national socialist, namely the National Socialist Adolf Hitler. A lot of people don't know. He wrote a book in 1920, Mein Kampf. It never got published. It's literally called, I'm Not Joking, My Secret Book. And in his secret book, he actually has a chapter where he explains that the older population will never go for this radical proposal of National Socialism the way he's laying it out. And then he says in the last few words of that particular chapter, but what we can do is that we can get the youth. We can convince young people that this is the way the world is supposed to be. We can convince young people that this is the ideology, even if we can't get the old people. And the next generation coming up will displace the generations that came before. And so this strategy applies. The theory in communism is called socialization. They believe everybody learns how to be who they are through a social process. There's no genetic component or anything. You socialize people to be how they are. So our society socializes them to be capitalists who believe in freedom. And that's a huge problem. But if we had a socialist system, it would socialize people to be socialist. So what you do, the easiest people to socialize are children. You take the children, you get control of the schools, you get control of the curriculum, you get control of the young people's minds and raise them to believe that they were brought up in the wrong kind of society, with the wrong kind of values, with the wrong kind of parents, with the wrong kind of faith in church. And you get them to turn against that society by showing them how rotten and evil and unfair and unjust it was, even though it traumatizes them. That's actually to the advantage of the leftist educator, because that trauma can be used to restructure their value system. It's actually called borrowing off of Nietzsche, a transvaluation of values, which is written about in the leftist literature as well. So you go after the young people because it works, because older people have roots, have understanding, have wisdom, and won't take it, but the younger people don't. So they steal people's children on purpose as a strategic way to overthrow the existing society.
Joe Getty
James Lindsay's fabulous book with Helen Pluckrose's cynical theories. James, also a great follow on Twitter or whatever social media you like. James, we sure appreciate the time you spent today, and if there's anything we can ever do to help you, please let us know that we're serious about this. It's a huge fight and it's really important. So thanks a million. Keep up the good work.
Jack Armstrong
Thank you so much.
Joe Getty
Oh, absolutely. Yeah. James Lindsay, everybody. Wow, wow, wow. More to come.
Jack Armstrong
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We're gonna talk to Lon Hee Chan about some of the big political stories of the day coming up to kick off hour three of the show. But I thought a perfect follow up to chatting with James Lindsay, which I hope you enjoyed or found enlightening, was to get back to Evan Barker's piece about how the Democratic Party already lost the working class. And when we were previously discussing it, she was talking about how as a poor ish white woman with terrible health problems, she was lectured by bi, coastal rich, elite people of color that she had privilege and needed to shut up, which she thought was curious at least. And she points out that race wasn't the only axis in play, which we'll get to in a second. But the ultimate example of the woke crowd perverting language is dei diversity, equity, and inclusion. Diversity means more people who are woke who agree with everything. I agree with politically. Equity means we decide what the results are. And inclusion means more people who are woke like me, to wit. So here's this young woman told that she needs to shut up because she's got too much privilege because she's white. Then she says. Gender, of course, was another area of immense pressure. Regularly I saw female staffers openly demonize men. One young woman wrote in an open Slack channel, men should be bullied in school more. The irony, of course, was that it was extremely difficult to make it in progressive Politics as a white man One of my friends, a white man and a veteran, couldn't find a job for more than a year until I recommended him to a friend of mine, a woman of color. Within a year of starting that job, he was forced to quit over allegations from another woman of color. Apparently he was not deaf friend deferential enough to her and many consultants couldn't get contracts from campaigns unless they were owned by women or minorities. What's your race? Donors would ask politicians on the phone. I'm sorry, I am restricting my investment to women of color only. One time we called the donor, his voicemail said, if you are not a woman of color, please do not bother leaving a voicemail. I won't donate to you. George Soros Open Society Policy center made a commitment to only give to organizations led by people of color for the next five years. And so then she gets to the really interesting part. Diversity. Is that really what you want? She says later, to check my sanity and recollection of that time, I made a list of the top 20 groups in progressive politics. This is between 2018 and 2024, 85% of them had non white leaders. 40% of the executive directors were black, 75% were women, and 15% of the leaders were white. Only 15% only. Only a single organization out of the top 20 was represented by a white male. So they didn't want diversity at all. They wanted uniformity. If they could pretend it was about race and accuse you of being a racist to one of the worst things to be called, they win. As our guest James Lindsay put it in a whimsical moment a few years ago. Go the idea of DEI is if you want to control something, call it racist. And until you control it, just a very simple version of that. So anyway, I again recommend James's book Cynical Theory. It's available, you know, an ebook form, pretty inexpensive and very, very readable. And you know, frankly, like a lot of great books. You know, read the first four, five, six chapters, you'll get get it and then, you know, plow on if you like, but you don't have to. So again, coming up, lan He Chen to discuss the politics of the day, some of the the primary results around the country. Although we're not going to, you know, flog him to death and try to wring great meaning out of some vote in Minnesota where only 30 people showed up. But then I also want to talk about the situation with Iran, because yesterday the only way out I see is squeeze them economically till they give in a substantial way. Well, Iran experts are saying, essentially, dudes, the way their economy is built, that's not going to work. They've been dealing with sanctions and what we would consider an economic emergency for so long. They've built what they call a survival economy, and that strategy is just not going to work. So, boy, where that leaves us, I have no idea whatsoever. Plus a couple of good AI stories, including there's been an escape of an Australian AI system and it's done dirty deeds. So holy cow. That and much more. Stay with us. If you can't stay with us, just grab it via podcast. Subscribe to Armstrong and Getty on Demand.
Jack Armstrong
Armstrong and Gettysburg.
Date: August 12, 2026
Hosts: Jack Armstrong & Joe Getty
Special Guest: James Lindsay
This episode focuses on what the hosts argue is a pivotal moment in American culture and history—the WNBA’s navigation of issues around gender identity, and its connection to the broader philosophical underpinnings of “woke” ideology and modern Marxist thought. Through candid discussion and a detailed interview with author and culture critic James Lindsay, the show explores the roots and impacts of critical theory, DEI (Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion) movements, and their incursion into American politics, education, and culture.
"If we can call them on the utter insanity of critical theory, then the whole woke thing falls apart." — Joe Getty (03:06)
"Don't tell me how to be a black woman. Taking hormones are optional. The idea that a trans woman has to subject herself to Big Pharma is just another way for CIS normative people to turn us into a commodity. I'm an all-natural black trans lesbian with a penile aesthetic." — Joe Getty, quoting Royce White (06:01)
"So the lady with the pro athlete dad... is lecturing the farm kid from Missouri about privilege. So once again, who's pushing this check your privilege nonsense? Rich kids who went to elite colleges majoring in studies." — Greg Gutfeld (08:36)
"Woke is a great term because the way that this actually works is the people involved feel like they woke up to a different understanding of reality... Critical theory is the technical term." — James Lindsay (22:37)
“Western society had a problem. It was capitalist. It was successful... So a new school of thought that attacks cultural institutions in order to transform the values of society outside of the workers, particularly arose.” — James Lindsay (24:00)
“They collect all the good words to themselves and project all the bad words onto their enemies.” — James Lindsay (25:27)
“The Communists will always ally themselves with anything that's socially disruptive.” — James Lindsay (28:19)
“You take the children, you get control of the schools, you get control of the curriculum, you get control of the young people's minds and raise them to believe that they were brought up in the wrong kind of society...” — James Lindsay (31:17)
"Diversity means more people who are woke who agree with everything I agree with politically. Equity means we decide what the results are. And inclusion means more people who are woke like me..." — Joe Getty (34:13)
This episode positions controversies like the WNBA’s approach to gender and inclusion as emblematic of a much deeper, more consequential ideological struggle over the direction of American society. Through anecdotes, cultural critique, and the expertise of James Lindsay, Armstrong & Getty urge listeners to see present battles over language, schools, and policy as extensions of “Western Marxist” critical theory. They warn that unless challenged openly, these ideologies could transform foundational American values and institutions, while reminding listeners to also appreciate the decency and opportunity that characterizes American life.